Why Can't "Mormons" Drink Coffee?

[@ParadoxEquinox-wg6bi]

No coffee and tea. But lots of soda and cola.

[@lusea9708]

It makes no sense. Many mormons drink coke, pepsi and the diet versions (even worse) but coffee is NO!

[@ORIGINALwhatnow]

Those drinks have more caffeine than coffee 🤦

[@KobeMJfan]

Those are also bad and should be avoided by Christians/Churt of Jesus Christ members but coffee and tea are addictive so they are more dangerous

[@LonelyDistance]

How did this video not even mention the Word or Wisdom and its Kellogg-esque forbidding of hot beverages of all kinds?

[@sheldonmurphy6031]

That's because a lot of people know that is getting beyond stupid. A lot of these rules came after Joseph died. Hell Joseph smoked cigars on his journeys AFTER he banned them. lol .. He got into trouble with his wife, and I believe he made tobacco forbidden to appease his wife. BUT I will say this. What's the worst that can happen from quitting smoking and coffee? It's not a bad rule, just a bit silly.

[@Mid-TierThoughts]

Coffee = bad but 4 white monsters is somehow okay?

[@KobeMJfan]

It’s not

[@garedclay5169]

I didn't even know that I wanted the answer to this question. Thank you KZbin algorithm.

[@WaxyLT]

As a Christian myself, I appreciate the quotations.

[@platonofffam]

Love this explanation! Thank you ❤

[@gbriank1]

The Word of Wisdom came from Emma Smith, Joseph's wife. In her mind, these were disgusting and expensive habits at the time. Whom cleaned up after Church meetings? Emma. She got tired of the tobacco spit and ashes from pipes and cigars. And coffee and tea? That stuff had to be carted in and the men swilled it down like pigs at the trough. It was extremely expensive. Here's another good one. When did the Word of Wisdom become a part of Temple recommend? The 1950s.

[@luisemitchell5692]

Emma took tis problem to her husband, who then went to the Lord for the answer.

[@gbriank1]

@@luisemitchell5692 Either way, Emma initiated the ban.

[@crazycatlady8285]

She wanted the men to get rid of chewing and smoking. The men joked, well you have to get rid of your coffee.

[@glennkonze4920]

@@crazycatlady8285 From what I'd read, she was all ready living rather cleanly...at the time. Overall, Nauvoo was a pretty disgusting place. Along with animal and human waste (which was dumped on the south bend of the river), you had mud and God knows what else in the streets. Go for a casual walk and you caked this stuff on your footware. If you haven't taken a tour of Nauvoo, you should.

[@jazzybash1]

“Mormon Christians” is such a misnomer.

[@KobeMJfan]

What do you mean? People of The Church of *Jesus Christ* of Ladder Day Saints are Christian though?

[@Dilley_G45]

​@@KobeMJfanNo. Their theology is too far off to be considered just heterodox

[@KobeMJfan]

@@Dilley_G45 did I say they were that though? No. I said they were Christian, as in the term Christian in the Bible that they are the definition of.

[@EmilZ-wb5kr]

"they avoid addictive drinks like coffee and tea because of the caffeine" yeah however they drink cola and energy drinks more than water so that's ridiculous.. never heard of anyone being addicted to tea, heard of lots being addicted to sodas tho! Mormon or not

[@KobeMJfan]

There are many that are addicted to coffee and tea because they are just naturally more addictive, nowhere does it says that soda is good though, it’s just as bad just less addictive

[@larryfrakous1332]

Thoughtful explanation 🙏

[@jordanjoestar-turniptruck]

Coffee will keep you out of the celestial kingdom, but Monster Energy won't.

[@richy11ify]

I know this is a little late, a family member explained this to me, which can make this misleading? they know some practicing mormons and things. it isn't "Just Coffee" its Hot Drinks. P.s. doing this out of teachng you.

[@Dilley_G45]

It's ridiculous. No tea? No green tea? No hot chocolate? No herbal teas for sick people? Nice man made tradition. They shall do what they want but its heresy to call it a command of God. Cause their isn't. They add to scripture. We have freedom in Christ. Colossians 2 and Romans 14 and Galatians clearly aren't taught among Mormons

[@Israeli_Prince]

Watching this while drinking my Vietnamese iced coffee, and straight to rap music after this video.

[@JaimeGarcia-pe7bj]

Cafe su da?

[@KobeMJfan]

…ok?

[@Dilley_G45]

Watching Lutheran theology videos with a glass of wine

[@lreadlResurrected]

Decaf?

[@LonelyDistance]

They're supposed to "avoid the appearance of evil"

[@larryfrakous1332]

@@LonelyDistance maybe so, but this isn’t quite the reason. The reason is that the revelation in Doctrine and Covenants 89 counsel’s against the use of hot drinks. Prophets from the time of the revelation and on have explained that this means Coffee and Tea (using tea leaves). A majority of saints attribute this restriction to the drink’s caffeine content, but caffeine is not technically restricted. Many saints drink caffeinated soda, but all would agree it can be misused.

[@LonelyDistance]

@@larryfrakous1332 that's true, but every Mormon Christmas party I've ever gone to has had hot chocolate a plenty, and drinking hot chocolate doesn't bar you from obtaining essential ordinances, while drinking coffee and tea do.

[@franzfleischer3476]

@@LonelyDistance Agreed. LDS LOVE a hot chocolate drink!

[@larryfrakous1332]

@@LonelyDistance yes, and neither does caffeinated soda. There’s honestly a lot going on with the Word of Wisdom. Many saints (myself included) can follow section 89 (which is a recommendation btw) more closely, but that’s why I’m grateful for modern prophets to specify scriptures and revealing commandments and adjustments to policy that promote wellbeing and spiritual sensitivity.

[@inthehouse9062]

Coffee Enemas?

[@JaimeGarcia-pe7bj]

What?

[@inthehouse9062]

​@@JaimeGarcia-pe7bjCoffee enemas are a health practice

[@KobeMJfan]

Are bad

[@inthehouse9062]

@@KobeMJfan They help some people

[@KobeMJfan]

@@inthehouse9062 I’m not informed enough to say if they’re good or bad, but they are probably not bad in a drinking coffee and tea and etc… sense, but they might be and for your general health

[@thedustincrdv]

Fun fact they drink gallons of soda lol

[@WoWiWe-z2p]

😂😂

[@KobeMJfan]

Fun fact everyone does and they also shouldn’t, they’re not perfect, nobody is, and that is not endorsed to drink soda, coffee and test and hot drinks is just more addictive, you should treat you body as a temple in all ways, but you always have your own choice because of free will

[@Dilley_G45]

​@@KobeMJfanColossians 2 and Romans 14. Yes we can drink alcohol and coffee.

[@Boa_Omega]

May not. Of course anyone can do any physical act they can manage. Ought not. As in God has offered us a choice, follow our will or his will. We ought not reject his will or break our oath once we have made it OR we will find we lose those blessings Heavenly Father offered us. We agree to abstain from certain items and our Father promises of health and spiritual well being in return. Do you want to trust almighty God to get through the day or hot water dragged through ground beans to support you all day/every day? Why hot drinks specifically are on the list has had many explanations but no divine revelatory answer that I am aware of. But I think I will trust him on it. Anything that it might offer to our good HE can provide and where we are faithful SHALL provide.

[@KobeMJfan]

Fabulous explanation brother

[@charlesdeliberis239]

Really you can't drink coffee,man that has to be a bit rough I probably go a bit insane ,no offense intended but that be me

[@KobeMJfan]

This is exactly why people of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints shouldn’t drink coffee or tea or any addictive hot drinks like that, to not be addicted to it that if you stop you go insane, whether exaggeration or not, because of its absence

[@harcık368]

It took human 100's of years to realize and forbid tabacco. Alcohol and caffeine in tea and coffee are also bad for health. I wonder how Adam Smith knew at that time all those things. I am not a Mormon.

[@danlopez.3592]

Chocolate ?

[@harcık368]

@@danlopez.3592 kakao too, right.

[@danlopez.3592]

@@harcık368 yes exactly has caffeine but yet that is OK. Such stupidity.

[@peacefulinvasion684]

Actually tea can have loads of health benifits when consumed in moderation. It's known to reduce stress as well as decrease your chances of heart disease. Plus hot tea and can be an excellent remedy if you have a cold or flu. It helps open up the airways making it easier to breath and get all that gunk out of your lungs. Plus you cant overdose on tea as easily as you can with cold medicine. I think what people forget I'd the health benifits of tea comes with moderation as well as common sense. If you're a healthy adult, one or two cups a day isn't gonna do any harm.

[@nosuchthing8]

Nope, coffee is good.

[@Tony-dp1rl]

You would think if you were going to make up your own fantasy Testament with imaginary stories about imaginary ancient peoples that never existed, and imaginary planets near God, etc., you would at least keep to Jesus teachings when it came to being able to eat and drink whatever you want. Bummer.

[@KobeMJfan]

1. Good thing it is not made up! 2. You CAN eat and drink whatever you want, and Jesus technically DID teach it as a form of free will, but he also taught that you SHOULD treat your body as a temple, but you should choose not to, you do have the choice to do poor things though.

[@danlopez.3592]

Bizarro world.

[@KobeMJfan]

?

[@jordanhicken7812]

Devout “Mormon” here. Great video but the take on coffee being explicitly and doctrinally about caffeine is incorrect. The ONLY reason that members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints don’t drink coffee is because a prophet of God (Joseph Smith) received revelation (Word of Wisdom) from God telling His members not to drink it for good reasons and to take it on faith. Anything else is merely speculation.

[@annwood6812]

I agree. Turns out it wasn't caffeine. Most of us thought that was the issue, but no. Joseph Smith only suggested that the word of wisdom be followed. It became a hard and fast social delineator after JS was killed.

[@adriennedoyle4482]

It's a test of obedience for believers.

[@Dilley_G45]

I respect your belief. But Joseph Smith is not a prophet of the Christian God. Maybe of another. He invented his own thing. Which you guys are free to follow. But don't use the name Christian when you aren't

[@nosuchthing8]

Ah, but coffee is good for people

[@KobeMJfan]

It’s not

[@ovrair6340]

Surprisingly accurate! And I'm glad they said "LDS Christians", not "Mormons"

[@annwood6812]

Every member of that church called themselves Mormon for about 170 years, including the founder. It's not a derisive term, although it's nice to address people as they would like to be addressed.

[@KobeMJfan]

@@annwood6812 it’s not a bad term but it should also be mentioned with the name “Jesus Christ” when referring to us because that is who we follow and who we represent

[@johnburrows5119]

I'm very proudly a gay coffee drinker.

[@KobeMJfan]

…ok?

[@oisinm332]

Yeah, all of that is NONSENSE.

[@KobeMJfan]

It’s not

[@oisinm332]

​@KobeMJfan All religions are nonsense.

[@Stellar_dolphin]

I disagree with Joseph Smith or whoever said this. It's just ridiculous how anyone would think drinking tea unwise.. Tea ceremonys are apart of many different cultures and traditions. The water must be hot in order to extract benefits from the herbs, flowers or roots. In my opinion this is just another white guy trying to improve something that is just fine the way it is.. Alcohol sure but tea? 😂

[@KobeMJfan]

It’s a test of faith and is to stop you from getting addicted

[@hilarymorrison8211]

What a load nonsense!

[@KobeMJfan]

It’s not