Why Christians Should Care About Fitness

Erik Thoennes and Jeremy Treat discuss the importance of caring for our bodies.

[@turtleman03]

I've prayed before my workouts before. My prayer was "Lord, this is YOUR body that YOU created. I pray for you to give me the strength to bring the best out of this body you've loaned to me and that your glory will emit from every rep that I do".

[@kylelougnot]

Keep Reping for Jesus

[@tatocaballero3318]

Wow yes !

[@Simpleliviing]

Thank you I will start doing that 🙏🏾

[@timbouma17]

I am going to do that too, I just screenshotted it❤ thank you so much! All praise to Jesus Christ❤May the strength, love, peace and confort of Jesus Christ be upon you all❤

[@Mr196710]

Thats as good as it gets IMO!

[@ExNihiloHealth]

There are so few people talking about health and wellness in the Christian community. We write it off as vain too early. Caring for our bodies is largely a stewardship issue. God cares about our bodies, and we should care about our bodies

[@Anne-ku3lj]

👍🏾👍🏾Eddie🥰

[@jeffybezos9517]

Yeah I noticed it not just in some peers but both my leaders, it seems as if my main leader thats always been there used the verse that says whats more important is our soul as an excuse to not workout.

[@wasabi5338]

yes. God has given us extraordinary abilities. I believe working out is not vanity or idolatry, taking care of the temple is important, not just to the point of narcissism or obsession.

[@godsgym777]

Yes we need to talk about it more, we are like tools, we should take care of ourselves, to not is not what God intended.

[@luken4072]

The body is a temple that should be cherished both physically and spiritually. This proactive neglect of pastors to ignore physically nurture is plain nonsense. The health of your body has an effect on our souls as the video points out.

[@ToddGantt]

Bottom line is -- do both. Pursue Godliness and spiritual growth and pursue physical health and well being No need to just do one. Unless you are being lazy.

[@ExNihiloHealth]

Exactly Todd. It's all connected. We steward our bodies to the Glory of God.

[@gachapotatocookie2309]

ToddGantt and don’t forget to brush your teeth! It’s just as important!!!!

[@Jah-Marii]

@@gachapotatocookie2309 amen😂

[@claubit32]

Thank you, clear-cut and to the point!:)

[@loveart7700]

Love this!

[@highlegend1655]

I believe God wants warriors! Endurance pleases the Lord.

[@bryanwirthlin4444]

Today I prayed while training on Gymnastic Rings in my carport. Before every exercise, I would say a verse from the Bible that I liked and repeat it mentally while performing reps and it became a kind of mantra or focus for meditation on the Word. "Blessed be the Lord my Strength who trains my hands for war and prepares my fingers for battle." Psalms 144:1 (Yes, I'm mixing translations. I find that wording is more poetic and emotionally engaging.)

[@coupdegrace7176]

No. You don’t add words to the Bible.

[@bryanwirthlin4444]

@@coupdegrace7176 But you can subtract words if you're Protestant.

[@coupdegrace7176]

@@bryanwirthlin4444 you’re a silly guy. I loved that verse when I would prepare for battle in Helmand province so thanks for the sweet reminder.

[@1thess523]

If you've never gotten fat then you don't understand how important it is to be in good healthy shape! I was in good physical shape all my earlier life and i was weighing between 145-155 from middle school up till about 3 yrs afterwards when I started working a busy job, got married and had a son coming along plus my wife was an awesome cook. I wasn't able to keep active anymore and i used to play sports, skateboard, roller blade, mountain bike, and olay in a band so i blew up to 200 lbs for 4 yrs and i was miserable not because i wanted to look "good" but because the extra weight is physically draining and u comfortable, I lost 53 lbs and felt great for about 14 yrs and then I got careless and blew up again 😔. I've recently lost at least 20lbs and feel better but not where I should be and at 44 yrs old it's a lot harder because i can't run like i used to so the process is a lot slower 😭. Now don't get me wrong I'm not a "body worshipper" I just know what it's like to get fat then lose it and get fat again and believe me I would rather have not gotten fat!

[@cedricatmoore]

1thess523 🙏🏽

[@taahine312]

I agree. I’ve been in the same boat.

[@diogonoronha1001]

Me too

[@406MenaceRacecar]

And 200 isn't even much, you were on your way to having problems. I've been 230 at 5'9 and I was praying God give me strength and help me overcome my food addiction/disorder and my sloth! I was unable to breathe when I tried to tie my shoes or get up when I was on the ground doing work/cleaning etc.

[@Nadiahope7]

Can really relate to this. I'm 38 with 2 children and single parent. I physically can't do it all and do turn to food to comfort which God's dealing with within me! It's definitely more of a challenge now than when I could train 6 days a week and only had me to consider! I used to haves abs and all before having children then being saved in 2021! Self control is a fruit of the spirit though 😂🙏 so I'll keep persevering with Christ by my side to be fitter so I can hopefully be running around with my grandchildren... If Jesus isn't back by then.

[@cmax4488]

Wow, i didnt expect to even be able to find a video on this. I have felt let down by churches for overlooking the importance of physical fitness. Being physically fit allowed me to become more mentally and spiritually fit and grow closer to the Lord. If I'm out of shape, my spiritual health suffers heavily as well.

[@jamierichards9926]

I love this. I come from a family of people who don’t take fitness seriously. And I always feel bad that my family doesn’t. I see the importance of working out and I want my kid to understand the importance of it. I can’t believe knowing what I know now, that as a teenager that I was missing out on so much that I could have been doing with my mom and the rest of my family. I’m glad I know the importance of it now and can show my son. It keeps you happy for the most part, obviously keeps your temple healthy, and you just feel good overall. I thank God for giving me the strength to work out.

[@Anandh287]

❤.. Much needed info placed in this discussion......Yes Fitness and health is part of life

[@jamoss2007]

Stay strong, our children should try and keep up with us(parents) rather than trying to keep up with them.(no laziness or idleness)..stay fit for the fam, stay fit and Worship the Lord with your bodies 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

[@MsBeloved89]

VERY important to stay fit and healthy. We are not made to be fat slobs. Working out is like brushing your teeth. It HAS to be done. It's a priority and a responsibility. All you need is at least 30 min a day of excersice . If you're trying to burn fat, don't take 15 min walks and say you worked out. Go out there and sweat!!! Get your heart rate raised.

[@ExNihiloHealth]

Working out is all about stewarding our bodies to the glory of God. We look better, feel better and serve God better all while fighting off disease. WIN-WIN

[@tbcreative562]

Burning fat is also a matter of diet, you can't out exercise a bad diet, loosing fat is as simple as calories in, calories out. You must be in a caloric deficit in order to loose fat. Let's say your body requires 2700 calories per day to function, even if you ate 2200 calories in donuts, you will loose weight. But I would not recommend that for multiple reasons, such as energy and overall health. Get enough protein, whole foods, check your calories. You got this.

[@Stephiej.worship]

This is such an amazing and much needed topic to talk about. If there was a book about this with people like both of you, it would be a game changed for us Christians trying to navigate this.

[@CKN215]

There are a couple verses people use to speak against fitness, but I believe they alone are not good arguments. The thing about the Bible and fitness is that people in the Bible WERE FIT. Abraham was a farmer, David was a soldier. They did not have air conditioning and they did not eat fast food. They were physically active every day and they ate healthy food.

[@pappypeep8347]

I have been procrastinating my workout all morning. I actually sat down to just "phone out" and this is the first video on my page. Gods like, "girl go workout already!". Ok I'm listening Lord...going to workout now 😕

[@mathewstovell5167]

WHy the grimace emoji? If you don't want to work out - you don't have ot. If you don't enjoy it - don't do it. Just go for a walk and eat healthy.

[@pappypeep8347]

@mathewstovell5167 I posted that 3 years ago 😕

[@mathewstovell5167]

@@pappypeep8347 Ok fair enough,

[@chadalferez]

how's your fitness now?

[@destmichael]

I asked several people at the gym why they worked out and the one answer that stuck with me was a man told me "he's a vessel for Jesus and he wants to be ready when the good Lord calls him to serve. He's a soldier for God." Changed the way I thought about a lot of things.

[@stuckmannen3876]

Using your body right(the way God created you) is good. :)

[@ExNihiloHealth]

Yep! It's an issue of stewarding what God has given us well.

[@chucksareforshmucks5520]

I've been so, so shamed by other moms in the church for working out daily. Sometimes I workout hard, but sometimes I just stretch. I walk, do HIIT about once a week, and do some weight circuits. However, I do it all at home, and NEVER post about it on social media. Since starting deliberately 3 years ago I've worn looser clothing to actively try to not grab attention. The more in shape I've gotten, the more I've tried to fade into the background. Even so, I've been told I'm selfish and vain for doing so...or I was scolded once for not prioritizing my life because I shouldn't have the time to workout if I'm doing enough for the community. It got in my head and I've felt guilty for the past year ('Maybe I should babysit or volunteer more with this extra 45 minutes a day? Maybe this is a stumbling block, maybe it is something I should set aside to not offend my brothers or sisters?')

[@susanvineyard4034]

Oh girl! You keep on working out! You are being a great steward of God’s temple😇. These women..... pray for them. They are hiding their shame of NOT taking care by attacking you. Not you. You have done nothing wrong. Women are prone in our culture to be jealous and envious. Warfare is not against these fleshly women. It’s them being used by the enemy to throw darts. Do not fade!! You were called by God to be as strong and focused as you are! You put on beautiful clothes and accessories unto the Lord. Just think how you are being a role model to the younger girls as well as the women who “get it.” Stop giving those Debbie downers power over you. Now read this out loud with me, in the name of Jesus and in agreement with my Christian sister, I speak against the spirits of despair that are tormenting her. In Your Word Jesus said He gave us authority over snakes and scorpions and All the powers of the enemy.! Yes!!! Hallelujah🎉. She is fighting scorpions that sting. I pray for her to put on the whole armor of God that she can withstand these attacks. Father we also pray for these women to being lukewarm and start living Your Word. I pray lastly Father, for ministering angels to attend to her wounds so that she can heal and continue to be strong. Amen and amen!!! Now get up and pray for strength everyday to continue this wonderful path. The Holy Spirit’s gotcha ❤️❤️❤️❤️💖💖💖

[@chucksareforshmucks5520]

@@susanvineyard4034 Thank you! After I posted this I felt like sitting with it and trying to process through it. I've realized that it's something that helps me in almost every way possible (beside taking up time, but also...I pray a lot in my head when I'm working out, so not really). I think it's really easy for people who struggle with guilt to become burdened by others, and peoole who are angry tend to lash out at those who they know become hurt easily. It does seem like inactivity and gluttony are big issues in the church, and I hope that doesn't sound mean at all. I've been lazy and have fallen into gluttony as well in my life, so I have a plank in my eye if I'm passing judgment on anyone. I appreciate your comment so very much and have felt peace today like I haven't this month. I reach out and hug you virtually, and pray for you to be especially blessed and comforted in your walk with the Lord. Your uplifting prayer and message truly touched me and I'm thankful

[@chief762]

@@chucksareforshmucks5520 love to see it

[@kaleidojess]

Your fitness is actually important in your everyday well-being, and I think a loving God would care about your well-being, right ? It's just as important as taking care of your spirit imo.

[@kylelougnot]

Don’t listen to them!! I have experienced the same thing. It’s jealousy and not from God. They are being convicted by your presence. You being fat or wearing baggy clothes is not the answer. Our bodies are temples unto the Lord and Christian fathers culture is sinful. Stay fit

[@chadalferez]

"For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come." 1 Timothy 4:8.

[@ajayjmartin]

Praise God. Love this perspective. Thanks!!

[@truth2919]

I really needed to hear this. Thank-you. 🙏

[@MARAVI.0]

I know right 🤧me too

[@valentinoivy4998]

Absolutely excellent video brothers, thank you for this priceless insight into how the LORD has planned for our bodies to be used for His glory.

[@GabrielofAdonai]

I think we should be physically fit, but not idolize our bodies either. Being fit and in shape Is a lifestyle. Physically and spiritually.

[@thedoberman9458]

This comment deserves more attention

[@GabrielofAdonai]

@@thedoberman9458 Much appreciated bro. I get alot of hate for spitting facts on the web. Nice to see some positive ones for a change. God bless.

[@robobro4996]

Yes being healthy while avoiding idolizing positively or negatively is so important! Dealing with this now as I progress on my journey physically & spiritually

[@crisromero6564]

Strength and good mobility is my main goal. If I worked on the aesthetic part of fitness and reached that goal it would probably be a stumbling block. The focus will be more on the shredded appearance. I absolutely am happy and content with my visitations to the gym. The benefits it provides for good well being. For serving Christ through my job to do the best for Him. 🙏

[@kittenmixer812]

This was so great. Thank you.

[@TheKiltedAdventurer]

So true! Great discussion on the relationship between the body and the soul. Thanks

[@brandonblanton233]

yea this was a very balanced video. i feel like God is saying thru these brothers that it’s about communion & community; communion in the sense that we glorify God by taking care of ourselves in a reasonable way as well we get to enjoy God and the goodness of the gifts & things He’s created and given to us. (joyful stewardship) it’s community in the sense that we get to fellowship and deepen our relationships with other believers through activities & shared hobbies, as well as strive to fulfill the great commission when we engage with unbelievers who share a similar interest; in hopes that the lost will hear the gospel and come to faith in Christ.

[@CookieMonstro21]

It’s simple, the older you get the harder it is to burn the fat off your body. Avoid over eating, begin going to the gym, find like minded people and take care of your body! You’ll feel better, look better and be more capable of being able to testify to others and help others!

[@pelomocho8567]

Great discussion

[@ezekielman449]

Thank you for helping me with this topic, it is a struggle to find balance in this area, im not in my twenties and neither is my mindset. Amen! Aloha God bless! P.s. Seeking Gods purpose for my life may be more fulfilling than idolizing my image! Thank you again.

[@jajordan4294]

Thanks cause I’m I play sports like soccer and I’m trying to be a athlete and still being a Christian thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾💕❤️🙏🏾💕❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️💕

[@assyriaaaaa]

Thank you for this video and encouragement brothers in Christ

[@xpulsetraveldiary]

Thank you so much❤️

[@manichairdo772]

Refreshing. Laid back conversation. Other videos have people speaking so quickly I can't keep up and their loud, positive tone is often overwhelming. Thanks, guys. Btw I'm a girl.

[@haphuongle2920]

I was born prematurely so I have been constantly on medication till I began following Jesus Christ. Even when my health improved, I still struggle with having naturally less immunity to sickness than other Christians. For example, I wake up almost every morning with stuffed up nose and feel like I'm suffocating. My muscles all over my body become tense because of that. If I don't stretch my body every morning, my movement would just be difficult and awkward. I could not really be productive or effective as I would with at least 5 mins of stretching.

[@vanessadelgadoelias]

Wow this was so good. Thank you for this.

[@NiaDinero]

I love this ! And this is so true. When I eat clean, workout ect. I feel closer to GOD✨ I hear GOD more clearly, I'm more calm and at peace to receive GOD in more ways in one.

[@cycletrade2276]

Nice and I agree, love it

[@spaldingpickers120]

We are wonderfully and fearfully made. If God wants us to be good stewards of money considering how little money matters overall in life, he cares about us and our body’s (his creation) a whole lot more.

[@PARISTheSpanishSinger]

Thank you for this!

[@josephdykes1820]

If you want to/ are called to serve our Lord for a long time, taking care of the HS vessel is important. Personally, I feel very close to God when I workout. I also like this quote, "We are all the same under the bar" Of course bar=barbell. We are all dependent on God to overcome things pressing down on us. We can overcome things pressing down on us. When we do overcome, we are stronger physically, mentally, spiritually (when we rightly credit Christ/ HS)

[@teresasimpson4771]

Can someone help me come up with a training for a women’s body with weights and. Reps and how many of them you do please ??

[@tkleo2006]

I would like to have seen the conversation more balanced; one side arguing the significance of dieting and the other donuts and frappuccinos.

[@CharlesJones-bu5hk]

I needed that.

[@marco_1682]

I started eating healthy because I know God wants me to be healthy not eating burgers, pizza and all these junk food

[@bensisko7154]

Burgers and Pizza are good, you have to maintain a balance.

[@thedoberman9458]

@@bensisko7154 they're not, should be avoided only 3+ times a year

[@bensisko7154]

@@thedoberman9458 I agree. Only use moderation. Not all burgers are unhealthy.

[@matthewstewart5008]

Bless that pizza to my body thank you god

[@Treisiess]

What you do, do all for the glory of God

[@K55365]

Reps for Jesus.

[@Hellokitty8564]

I do a sport called quads its really hard but fun to do and can give you arm strength and in the sport you walk,jump and more on all fours I know it sounds weird but you can really get some strength with it ❤

[@shakoimnadze2211]

I have come to this conclusion: body(flesh) is manifestation of the actions of the spirit. and of course bible says in Timothy that physical training is good, but training for godliness is much better, promising benefits in this life and in the life to come. We should care about our physical health but we should not idolize it or spend more time with it than with Christ.

[@HeyImAedRianne]

I found a workout with gospel music. It is amazing and the comment section is amazing as well.

[@Jovilynch]

Please share!

[@nicholaschuma6304]

I know as Christians we don’t want to associate ourselves with the world but we are humans too and I always say “I’ll have fun in a holy way😅”

[@elijahfrancisrabor1388]

short answer is yes you probably should work out whenever you can

[@shortstopanimations6143]

Nice.

[@jacobnewton3816]

Watch “should Christians workout and exercise Ask pastor Tim”

[@bryanwirthlin4444]

Sorry brother, I just watched that before coming here and I have to say, it's quite boring and Pastor Tim talks about "redeeming time" and comparing your efforts to 200 years hence. I have two thoughts on that. 1. Redeeming time is a relative term. If a young man is wasting his life playing video games, then yes, fitness training is redeeming his time. If an obese woman is on a path to die at 50 of diabetes, then yes, fitness training is very redeeming of her time. 2. Comparing one's efforts to 200 years from now is a terrible idea. There's always a way to frame any issue or topic in a timescale that makes it irrelevant and useless. For example, why bother ministering? Or evangelizing? Or tithing? After all, at some point, Christ will return and our efforts won't have mattered much, if at all. The point is not what happens "a long time from now," but rather what Good is accomplished and what Evil is defeated on a daily basis. And that's Sermon on the Mount 101. Jesus essentially says that you should be confronting the trouble (evil) present in your daily life and not worry about mundane issues in the future (food, clothing etc,) provided you have oriented your life towards God. It's a formula. IF... you seek the Kingdom of God AND live rightly, THEN you can stop worrying and just deal with the Evil that presents itself as you go about your day. And you ought to deal with Evil as you find it. Matthew 6:33 "But seek first His Kingdom and His righteousness (which means right living)" and then Matthew 6:34 applies "...do not worry about tomorrow... Each day has enough trouble (Evil) of its own."

[@SpiritualWarfareZone]

Does anyone know the best place in nyc for christians to exercise? I mean adults.

[@deion312]

Amen!

[@paigecooper4771]

This motivated me to brush my teeth lol

[@leepretorius4869]

Good points but I think you may be wrong on training for purely aesthetic reasons. If you look at traditional bodybuilding before the advent of steroids it’s very clear that they were trying to achieve golden ratio proportions which is a divine ratio found in all of reality. This can be a noble and godly achievement for the human proportions. Today this is lost simply because of the perverted state of bodybuilding. However this ratio is somewhat achievable in all men and has intrinsic value. Otherwise only ball sports and racing sports are valid pursuits for Christians. Bodybuilding has an artistic expressive component that needs no further justification.

[@CaioCesarDNobre]

I'm with you

[@maranathasam]

1Cor 6:19-20: "What? know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own? For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."

[@matthewstewart5008]

1 Corinth 2v2

[@gbd-oq1rz]

It’s good to add on but it is not everything.

[@TPOANME]

If youre able bodied and are over weight or mal nourished (through self abuse), then how can you convince yourself that you are spiritually healthy? Its not a vain thing but a self Love thing.

[@tm.armani2264]

I can’t be fit because everytime I workout my back hurts really bad and I’m only 13..😭I don’t know what’s wrong with my back ..

[@manichairdo9265]

Please get your back checked out. Could be a disc issue or just a pulled muscle. Do gentle stretch exercises. Swimming, cycling and walking are all good options, too. Take care.

[@Toni-ed6oi]

What about :" A Christian should take the Bible seriously "

[@diabloivory1430]

Mhmm.

[@bethgott9768]

Jet lag

[@tinaaaangel9947]

It does sy in Genises God helped men to become fishermen of men. Not sure exactly where he said it but it might be in Genises. I dont see anything wrong with eating fish.some other foods I dont care for. I loved this video. But dirt I'd never eat dirt. Lol. Anyways that's wild never heard of it that way. Anyways I so want to be a vegan. But where I'm at u almost cant.

[@dustencross357]

The body of Christ...

[@Ilemkd]

Whoever sows in the body, will reap damnation, whoever sows in the spirit, will reap eternal life. It is not God's will for us to care or worry for anything, but God's kingdom and His righteousness.

[@Anne-ku3lj]

‘So honour God with your body’

[@HelloMF_7.62]

@Malcolm Bodiford exactly,

[@caiocesardumaresq9812]

Infelizmente, eu vejo que há uma forte demonização da beleza física no meio cristão. Eu sei que não devemos dar mais valor a isso que à nossa saúde, mas honestamente, eu detesto ser chamado de idólatra por apreciar esse tipo de coisa e me interessar nelas, como se o fato de eu me interessar pela beleza de um corpo musculoso fosse me tornar automaticamente pecador. Longe de mim qualquer coisa moralista desse tipo. As pessoas até podem me julgar por conta desse moralismo patético que amaldiçoa TUDO que os olhos veem ao passo de que abençoa tudo que eles não podem ver, inclusive, sendo qualquer aspecto exterior do corpo considerado amaldiçoado a ponto de tornar idólatra quem se interessa por isso, eu ainda não sou capaz de realizar grandes sacrifícios para ter um corpo musculoso. Então, só porque tenho apreço por isso e CURTO e me interesso, eu devo ser chamado de idólatra? Longe de mim com esse moralismo insuportável. Eu não tenho mais paciência com ideias que amaldiçoam tudo o que os olhos veem e não são capazes de ver a menor graça de Deus nisso. Certo, muitos idolatram o corpo, isso é verdade. Mas idolatria não está nas coisas, mas no nosso coração e no valor que damos a estas coisas. O que estou condenando aqui é a ideia de se considerar o apreço pela beleza física algo profano que jamais deve estar presente na vida do cristão, condenando assim todos que estão envolvidos nisso independente de qual tenha sido a experiência individual de cada um com Deus e isso.

[@CaioCesarDNobre]

Definitivelly, Christianity curses aesthetics! This gets me really annoyed.

[@upside_downtape.9222]

Your Body is a Temple, better take care of it.

[@bobtaylor170]

I guess you'll just have to excuse those of us who have been disabled for 90% of our lives. Joni Eareckson Tada is so much more bracing in her teaching because she understands that God uses our bodily weaknesses to draw us to Him, and to remind us continuously of our absolute dependence on Him. This was a seven minute waste of video.

[@manichairdo9265]

You missed the point. Joni needed physical therapy to keep her body functioning. A 99% brain damaged 18 month old needed 5 exercise sessions per day to stop his body closing down. To stimulate blood flow etc. He was mega fit.

[@TheLifePhoenix]

whatever

[@jmar5785]

Where does weed fit into the whole thing?

[@adrianortega4303]

The Bible says to be sober minded.

[@Melchizadeckk]

@@bobbyboucher187 I'd say no sugar as it has no beneficial value other than taste. It just turns to fat. Coffee has benefits other than the little boost you get from it to wake up.

[@jmar5785]

Desire Of All Nations in the quest to have a deeper experience of the universal Christ which can transform individuals and the overall culture purity codes are pretty worthless. I was being sarcastic.

[@jmar5785]

Pete Howarth the Buddha was fat. Right?

[@timsharpe6652]

What about it your sick or can't walk much due to a disability . What then?

[@danielp1099]

Do what you can and be led by the spirit always.

[@pedrosnowz]

eating healthy, stretching are some options

[@robraver]

sounds like 7th day adventist stuff, they are into keep fit and eating healthy. Not that these things are bad, but didnt Jesus teach about how we should look after one another...and not steal, commit adultery etc etc?

[@Cappellano]

robraver for clarification, are you saying Christians shouldn’t encourage each other to be healthy because Adventist’s already have a health message?

[@GerardPerry]

@@Cappellano Yeah, it doesn't make much sense. Particularly when you realize that SDAs have a life expectancy 6 or 7 years longer than Christians.

[@robraver]

@@Cappellano sure, its good to not eat too much...not eat the wrong food and to respect your body. But its NOT what Christianty is about...is it.

[@robraver]

@@GerardPerry is that a bonus?