Why Culture Wars Matter

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Then & Now

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11 ай бұрын

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@ThenNow
@ThenNow 11 ай бұрын
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@SpringfieldCynic
@SpringfieldCynic 11 ай бұрын
It is amazing how people are letting their feelings be manipulated.
@colonelweird
@colonelweird 11 ай бұрын
The link for script & sources goes nowhere - "404 nothing found".
@fredriksundberg4624
@fredriksundberg4624 11 ай бұрын
​@@SpringfieldCynic The social media earn their income from triggering peoples emotions.
@citycrusher9308
@citycrusher9308 11 ай бұрын
Not ''woke'' - Fem...ist ideology. You have to get it right
@JackSparrow-re4ql
@JackSparrow-re4ql 11 ай бұрын
Its amazing how, despite all the things you said, you can't see how fake,false,stupid, conceited and mediocre woke hollywood really is. And you cheer the shit storm that is liberal cinema. All that the corporations really do is use racism,LGBTQ and feminism as a shield, a defense of their own mediocre art. They use justice and rights as a shield from criticism. Black inclusion does not just usurp and steal heroes, stories and historical figures; it also fails to create its own; this, despite screaming at the top if its lungs that black culture IS culturally unique and different. If that were so; why would we need a black Aragorn? Why can't they write something as powerful as Lord of the rings and create their own? Why steal a cultural hero that is clearly not their own? A black person has no more right to play Winston Churchill, than a white one has to play Martin Luther King. Even other cultures such as Norse and Scandenavian vikings are now being portrayed as black. This is not simply insulting, mediocre and bad art; its a rewriting and butchering of history, traditional stories and ideas. I've seen your video on history, but let me ask you this; is a complete and utter lie better than the bitter truth? Is not history worth saving and preserving for the sake of fact, instead of being distorted into utter falsehood? How can we even analyze what happened or who people like Churchill were; if even their skin color is falsified!? People like you are destroying cultural art, and artifacts simply to push a personal political agenda. You are not 'changing' or 'swinging' cultural art; you are VANDALIZING cultural and artistic milestones in human history and calling it 'progress'.
@landoc05
@landoc05 11 ай бұрын
You can be rational, aesthetic, and detached in a culture war until people start debating whether you have a right to exist at all.
@Mahavishnu01
@Mahavishnu01 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I suppose the aristocracy of France (and Europe in general) had the same feeling
@pietero.o6792
@pietero.o6792 11 ай бұрын
Exactly what happened during the french revolution with those deemed not radical enough.
@Hartley_Hare
@Hartley_Hare 11 ай бұрын
@@pietero.o6792 Underrated response.
@tkdyo
@tkdyo 11 ай бұрын
@@Mahavishnu01 Unfortunately, they left the people little choice but to have those kinds of discussions when they made it obvious they were not going to give up their power willingly.
@PabloSteuer
@PabloSteuer 11 ай бұрын
well, where's that right to exist, when we can't spread to all humans in the world?
@ThunderHOWL16
@ThunderHOWL16 11 ай бұрын
i could listen to this dude read the owners manual of a car and still be intrigued and feel sophisticated
@adamgretzinger963
@adamgretzinger963 11 ай бұрын
If you haven't, definitely worth a read you will learn a ton of stuff about your car.
@blueoak116
@blueoak116 11 ай бұрын
And yet, there’s much ado about northing here.
@adamgretzinger963
@adamgretzinger963 11 ай бұрын
@@blueoak116 I don't follow your thought path, I don't understand
@blueoak116
@blueoak116 11 ай бұрын
@@adamgretzinger963 good question. In short we as a country should not make a big deal about culture, my culture or your culture. We all a right to our own culture. Politics exists to guarantee our right to our own culture. His argument is wrong headed and dangerous. Leave my culture to me and your culture to you. Only tyrants want to make a big deal over the music I listen to or the clothes I wear. Same for you. That’s why politics are so important.
@Laotzu.Goldbug
@Laotzu.Goldbug 11 ай бұрын
​@@blueoak116 the idea that people are atomized individuals, little random self-segregated units just happened to bump into each other and form self-assembling structures is such an amusingly transparent lie that I'm more than embarrassed for anyone who falls for it. Culture is, by definition, not an individual endeavor. At the end of the day you do not, and never will, have unlimited freedom to redefine the world around you according to preference and consent. This is a brute fact of reality.
@Set2Wumbo
@Set2Wumbo 11 ай бұрын
I basically approach media with the idea that it's all propaganda, it's all made to reflect the creator and give me insight into their way of thinking. It's up to me to be diligent enough to determine what's worth taking away and what's worth disregarding from a piece of media.
@hherrie3tuoepiw
@hherrie3tuoepiw 10 ай бұрын
I don't agree, there's plenty of media that's created with absolutely zero intention of persuading someone towards one view or another
@pharaoh9391
@pharaoh9391 10 ай бұрын
I mean that’s art. Art immigrated life and life imitates art it’s made to be consumed and everyone is to have their own perception of what they just witnessed whether it’s dance or painting or acting etc
@rasheed7934
@rasheed7934 10 ай бұрын
You usually disregard what you don't like or makes you uncomfortable.
@R.A.A.
@R.A.A. 10 ай бұрын
@@rasheed7934 Exactly, its called “confirmation bias” right?
@mikexhotmail
@mikexhotmail 10 ай бұрын
Same here. Once you notice one, you see it everywhere.
@Sandra-hc4vo
@Sandra-hc4vo 11 ай бұрын
one thing I have noticed about artists is that they almost always are struggling to survive and that society sort of has kind of a hostile environment for them and that has an effect on how many artists there can be. Which if the artist is needed to help uplift society up, this is I think something also to look at as well. How society treats the artist
@the_Analogist4011
@the_Analogist4011 11 ай бұрын
I don't think they all struggle as much as we think. especially when "the algorithm" decides to promote you into relevance
@the_Analogist4011
@the_Analogist4011 11 ай бұрын
@@PretendingToBeAHuman what I mean is that some people will do their creative stuff as a hobby. art as a career is a very different beast. the problem comes down to people wanting what you have or what you can do for them. I have an extremely boring job that luckily affords me enough time to work on my hobbies. the big lesson for my kids though is going to be as i described, finding out how to be useful and leverage an income that way. but you are right, it is a rare lucky few who get to turn their passion projects into a living.
@casteretpollux
@casteretpollux 11 ай бұрын
UK Tory Gov is shutting down Art Ed.
@casteretpollux
@casteretpollux 11 ай бұрын
Art is direct, involving visual stimuli, and thus to some extent unfiltered and conveys the shock of the new even if subject matter not directly revolutionary. .
@casteretpollux
@casteretpollux 11 ай бұрын
@@the_Analogist4011 Art employment is statistically the lowest paid sector in the UK.
@justynmatlock8873
@justynmatlock8873 11 ай бұрын
The problem with 'Beauty is good' is the other side of the coin, that 'ugliness' is bad. Too often this is then applied to people. Those judged 'beautiful', 'attractive' are seen as 'better', and those judged 'unattractive', not as worthwhile.
@sidstevens9035
@sidstevens9035 10 ай бұрын
You can't fight human nature
@jesuschristthesecond
@jesuschristthesecond 10 ай бұрын
​@@sidstevens9035 literally
@jghifiversveiws8729
@jghifiversveiws8729 10 ай бұрын
Beauty is objective
@sidstevens9035
@sidstevens9035 10 ай бұрын
@@jghifiversveiws8729 Beauty is skin deep but unfortunately ugly goes down to the bone !
@TrueMithrandir
@TrueMithrandir 10 ай бұрын
ugly art > "beautiful" art
@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983
@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983 11 ай бұрын
I'm a philosophy student. I've been strugling with my final project for my aesthetics class, but you just gave me an amazing toolbox for tackling my material. THANK YOU SO MUCH! KEEP DOING GREAT!
@april6620
@april6620 11 ай бұрын
Wishing you well, on your final project...
@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983
@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983 11 ай бұрын
@@april6620 thanks!
@sidstevens9035
@sidstevens9035 10 ай бұрын
Someone who studies philosophy is someone who never intends to do any real work for a living.
@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983
@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983 10 ай бұрын
@@sidstevens9035 amen u r dead right
@besmus4983
@besmus4983 10 ай бұрын
@@emiliobarukgallardoflores6983 😂
@Ethic-Ai-L
@Ethic-Ai-L 10 ай бұрын
The culture wars are important but it seems both sides can’t have a rational conversation and that is due to the internet, we are all in our own echo chambers and when we hear ideas that go against our narrative we shut down and try to find every wrong with the other side. It’s divide in conquer.We should strive to have cultural conversations rather then wars. Most importantly we can’t ignore the truth and facts in these types of discussions and at the same time we have to acknowledge that we are humans and we have feelings and emotions.
@kretin6831
@kretin6831 7 ай бұрын
How right you are and how tired I've grown at not being able to have intellectually authentic discussions with people not sharing the same sentiments as myself. The death of discourse and therefore philosophy lies within the wasteland of impenetrable walls which no friendly notion of any kind of honest conduct may yet scale.
@gyurhanaziz7676
@gyurhanaziz7676 6 ай бұрын
​@@kretin6831Indeed. I thought that the internet was a place of plurality, a market of ideas but now my views have endured a dramatic shift. The internet is the greatest filter ever conceived, a gigantic censorship bureau fully operated with the consent of its users and aided by the algorithm. A sanitation of social media is long overdue.
@gyurhanaziz7676
@gyurhanaziz7676 5 ай бұрын
@@kretin6831 it will sound a little strange but can we get to know each other? I would like to chat with you if you leave me your username from a social media account.
@hisownfool1
@hisownfool1 11 ай бұрын
I also cry at the end of T2. "I now know why your cry. But it's something I can never do" 😢
@jean-sebastienberube4056
@jean-sebastienberube4056 11 ай бұрын
This movie is a masterpiece. When T-800 imitates John's voice on the phone and tells him : «Your foster parents are dead.», it's exactly like what AI is capable of today, imitating voices, among other things.
@hisownfool1
@hisownfool1 11 ай бұрын
@@jean-sebastienberube4056 It is. As far as I cam concerned, only "The Terminator" and "T2: Judgment Day" are canonical. The story ended. In the original DVD there was a deleted closing scene where John was a senator and Sarah was at peace. They should have stuck with this. Everything else that followed, with the possible exception of "Terminator Salvation," was a middle finger to the people who cared about the characters.
@Tom_Bee_
@Tom_Bee_ 11 ай бұрын
Yet another thoughtful, insightful presentation. This channel really is an underrated gem.
@squintsyadams8463
@squintsyadams8463 11 ай бұрын
Saw the new Spider-Man with my 5yo yesterday. I got all teary-eyed and had to hold his little hand at one point. Sheesh.
@Jkjoannaki
@Jkjoannaki 11 ай бұрын
This is so wholesome
@aaftiyoDkcdicurak
@aaftiyoDkcdicurak 11 ай бұрын
I know how you feel.
@liamnewsom8583
@liamnewsom8583 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I was utterly lit up by the end, uplifting. Good work man.
@JS-gr9jb
@JS-gr9jb 11 ай бұрын
I've been watching your videos(also as a supporter) for a long time but never commented on the channel, and I just felt that I should leave a comment of my gratitude for your insightful videos. Thank you so much.
@rightweaponry908
@rightweaponry908 11 ай бұрын
Wow! This really clearly and concisely contextualized soo much i have been thinking about lately. This is soo good i'm definitely going to have to watch it a few more times to truly absorb it all. Thank you🙏🏽
@EnemyOfEldar
@EnemyOfEldar 11 ай бұрын
Mate youre really great. I remember you put out a call to have people work with/for you and always wish i put in a word. These qorks you produce should be shown in school RE and philosophy classes. Food for thought thank you.
@stevenmatthews2278
@stevenmatthews2278 10 ай бұрын
That was a well thought out video. I enjoyed the perspective on Schiller. I haven’t read much of his works besides a few we had to read in my German courses. Thank you for sharing!
@jaysway9251
@jaysway9251 10 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the quality of your videos. Thank you for that!
@magdabergman9397
@magdabergman9397 8 ай бұрын
wow - your videos and the content is amazing! I consider myself as rather logical, not emotional - and at the end, this video made me slightly weepy and I had goosebumps all over... so beautiful. THANK YOU! You are making my life more meaningful!
@layziek2137
@layziek2137 10 ай бұрын
I never expected me to be watching a video on Schiller and culture wars on a sunny morning. Cudos to you who got me to continue. This was surprisingly an interesting topic.
@JordanLimbachArt
@JordanLimbachArt 11 ай бұрын
Simply brilliant! New to this Chanel and very impressed so far.
@Rammarsher
@Rammarsher 11 ай бұрын
It's incredible and visible the effort you put in each video! Keep going on, it's aesthetic education for real :p 💖
@ubik5453
@ubik5453 11 ай бұрын
This seems to be similar to The Birth of Tragedy by Friedrich Nietzsche. The gods Apollo and Dionysus. Apollo represented order, logic, and structure, while Dionysus represented the sublime, drunkenness, and artistic chaos. In the book, Nietzsche believed we needed to mix up the two drives together.
@jacquelinepayne2012
@jacquelinepayne2012 10 ай бұрын
Culture becomes hypocritical when "tolerance and inclusivity" masks its opposite. Words are then not enough to bring peace among diverse interests, so reasonable behaviour towards others is the all important measure of human virtue.
@Architypesworldwide
@Architypesworldwide 11 ай бұрын
Recently found your channel. Loving your content, amazed you don’t have more views
@zacharymagnusson2873
@zacharymagnusson2873 7 ай бұрын
This was a very informative and inspiring video, I can tell you worked very hard on this, fantastic job.
@chaueter1041
@chaueter1041 11 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video, capturing the nuances of what society makes so binary
@garveycampbell80
@garveycampbell80 11 ай бұрын
Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination".
@benjaminhenderson5025
@benjaminhenderson5025 11 ай бұрын
It used to mean that. Now it's idpol BS.
@garveycampbell80
@garveycampbell80 11 ай бұрын
@@benjaminhenderson5025 Agreed, ever since Republicans began strategically using it as a Catchall term to draw attention from the disproportionate application of Police Brutality it's robbed the term of its meaning. However one only needs to hop onto the Internet to find its true Meaning.
@sentryogmixmaster
@sentryogmixmaster 11 ай бұрын
so it means overly-sensitive. must be hard caring about everybody's opinions. better to prove your worth by adding value to a situation, project or experience. being needed for value rather than just being inserted for message will usually supersede prejudices in application.
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 11 ай бұрын
'Woke' has been taken over by white college kids so that the reality of what it means for blacks is now, spare the pun.... effectively white washed.
@tomemery7890
@tomemery7890 11 ай бұрын
​@@garveycampbell80the disproportionately is due to the fact that black people commit a disproportionately high amount of crime. For example, something like 97% of unarmed people who are killed by the police are men. This doesn't mean the police are sexist against men, it's because a similar proportion of street crime is committed by men, so there are more situations where the police are attempting to apprehend male lawbreakers. Studies have also shown that white police officers are less likely to use lethal force against black suspects than black police officers are, whereas the opposite would be expected if racial animus was a factor. Finally, black people who live in high crime areas have been found to have an overwhelmingly positive view of the police, to be against reductions in police presence in their areas, and to believe that the BLM movement has made life worse for black people.
@pavelandreev4727
@pavelandreev4727 11 ай бұрын
I love your videos, man! They are as beautiful and thoughtful as they are useful. I just created a course for my studies and linked a bunch of them into it, I will link this one as well it is spot on. My course is on the evolution of civil society, citizenship and the relation between people, society, power, the state etc. from prehistory to today. It is amateurish and incomplete but I think I will continue to study the subject and maybe one day do the real thing. I take inspiration from your work, among others, thank you!
@briobarb8525
@briobarb8525 11 ай бұрын
Well said!
@ponchothe
@ponchothe 11 ай бұрын
Best one yet! Thank you for this.
@thatgirlzoee
@thatgirlzoee 10 ай бұрын
i'm writing a novel about madame de pompadour and her relationship with the philosophes and Louis XV simultaneously. she's a really great example of someone caught between the two worlds but was able to influence through proximity (and also was a heavy patron of the arts to promote enlightenment ideals)
@greatestever8169
@greatestever8169 10 ай бұрын
Wow 🤩 I can truly relate to all the content in this well written, explained, and very informative video! This is a fine example of why we need more free speech/journalism…free platforms! For the algorithm 🤜
@eyecandie16
@eyecandie16 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for what you do. ❤
@jimschwandt8089
@jimschwandt8089 11 ай бұрын
I do not always agree with everything the gentleman relates in the video, his presentation is exquisite, and his intelligence and emotions come through. This is truly enjoyable.
@g.m.fordham9217
@g.m.fordham9217 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful analysis! Thanks so much!
@tkdyo
@tkdyo 11 ай бұрын
Great video, as a socialist I find that culture war often gets severely downplayed in favor of class analysis. And while I get why that is done, it is also one of the major road blocks of achieving class solidarity with minorities. So it is still serving the ruling class' interest, just form the other direction. You have to approach their issues with empathy and with an understanding that many of their issues will not be solved just by changing the economic system. The sooner you do that, the sooner we can gain more solidarity. I am personally loving the rise of cornbread tube that is helping more people understand this.
@briobarb8525
@briobarb8525 11 ай бұрын
Well said...and very true. Namaste!
@farzanamughal5933
@farzanamughal5933 10 ай бұрын
So do you agree with this video. Do you think the culture war should be ignored/rejected by socialists
@DanaiHamit
@DanaiHamit 10 ай бұрын
"one of the major road blocks of achieving class solidarity with minorities" considering what Stalin had done with ukrainians or what the USSR had done with Circassians... yeah there's definitely a long way for socialists to start being respectful towards minorities
@farzanamughal5933
@farzanamughal5933 10 ай бұрын
@@DanaiHamit Silly comment
@DanaiHamit
@DanaiHamit 10 ай бұрын
@@farzanamughal5933 and how exactly was it silly?
@MrMuel1205
@MrMuel1205 11 ай бұрын
This was a really beautiful and thoughtful video. I've always myself been a great advocate of the generalist, and have lamented the decline of the generalist's role in society. Specialisation has its role too, of course, but we need not give up on one for the other. It's one thing to know something to be true, another to feel it to be true and in humans the latter is ever victorious. Great art, then, is what is needed to implant truths at the core of our civilisation. For that to happen we need generalists, those who can bridge the realms of knowledge and sentiment.
@blueoak116
@blueoak116 10 ай бұрын
Excellent effort in thinking about the nexus between art and ethics.
@ghostexits
@ghostexits 10 ай бұрын
Haven't read Schiller, but much of this sounds reminiscent of Plato's eternal/ideal forms, and how human beings appreciate beauty insofar as it emulates and approximates the immutable ideal universal forms. Early Christian philosophers adopted and recast these ideas of beauty as an earthly expression of the divine.
@Bronxguyanese
@Bronxguyanese 11 ай бұрын
One thing I realized that German academics changed the moral landscape. The sad part is that some of the German landscape morality gave way to nazism and communism which both are rooted in German academia and killed millions in the 20th century. Also Germans gave birth to critical theory as well. Hegel, kant, Marx neitzche changed the mind for good and bad.
@immortalnightbody
@immortalnightbody 10 ай бұрын
Huh? Nazism was a Capitalist project. Most of the legacy companies we give money to today made their money in that era. The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and Imperialism/Colonialism were centered around the hoarding of Capital. 100s of Millions of lives were destroyed or displaced. Don't say such weird things without taking an honest look at History.
@derhochwohlgeborene8548
@derhochwohlgeborene8548 11 ай бұрын
Great one. Gramsci makes a similar point, stating that a political formation always has to be stabilised by culture.
@balmgilead1088
@balmgilead1088 10 ай бұрын
Stunning analysis. Thank you.
@snowstrobe
@snowstrobe 11 ай бұрын
My most embarrassing was bawling my eyes out in Ghosts. I actually got angry with myself for being so lame.
@williamoldaker5348
@williamoldaker5348 11 ай бұрын
Nothing lame about being connected emotionally to a work of art.
@snowstrobe
@snowstrobe 11 ай бұрын
@@williamoldaker5348 It is if it's something as bad and manipulative as that film.
@vonunterberg4313
@vonunterberg4313 10 ай бұрын
@ThenNow pls never stop making these Essays, I beg u its so good to hear about your work, I love it. I know its selfish kinda but never ever stop making these crazy good videos.
@genedalefield
@genedalefield 11 ай бұрын
As always, excellent video essay.
@RazorFringe2
@RazorFringe2 11 ай бұрын
There's a real sensuous pleasure to football commentary sometimes, like a ball being described as having been "struck beautifully".
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 11 ай бұрын
Sports is now the only true religion in the US. And elsewhere, for that matter.
@aquatick1848
@aquatick1848 11 ай бұрын
​@@thomasjamison2050politics more like
@Damesanglante
@Damesanglante 11 ай бұрын
In Canada, the riots for hockey games usually gather more people than protests against governments.😞
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 11 ай бұрын
@@Damesanglante Some teacher I had in college/cegep, can't remember who and in what context, said something like that about hockey fans as a joke: ''If their favorite team loses, they'll go around breaking everything. If their favorite team wins, they'll go around breaking everything.''
@justynmatlock8873
@justynmatlock8873 11 ай бұрын
But the culture around football is so often one of racism, homophobia and misogyny.
@Basti557
@Basti557 11 ай бұрын
So much value in your Videos thank you!
@OILGEN35
@OILGEN35 10 ай бұрын
This is one of your best videos!!!!! Beautiful, 🙏 thanks
@dariusbucinskas6721
@dariusbucinskas6721 11 ай бұрын
Amazing work as always
@noor5x9
@noor5x9 11 ай бұрын
I'm dealing with being transgender quite a bit, and I thought the video was interesting from that perspective. What is beautiful is often quite political, and becoming able to see the beauty in what was considered ugly is a difficult but often politically rewarding thing. I, for one, find Marsha P Johnson a deeply beautiful human being. Hearing her speak (in the little that we have from that) fills me with passion and admiration. I can find beauty in myself through seeing the beauty in her
@enlightenedanalysis1071
@enlightenedanalysis1071 11 ай бұрын
Great video. However, I have some criticisms: While you are right about the importance of art and beauty in our lives, as you know "beauty" does not exist in a vacuum. As some great philosophers have said, concepts like truth and beauty come from their OPPOSITES. For example, beauty is often appreciated from tragedy, sadness, absence, loss and drama. How can we appreciate a beautiful love song or poem without the sense of sadness and tragedy that it can evoke in us? The book you mentioned "The Sorrows of Young Werther" owes its beauty due to the tragedy of its main hero, the impossible love he has for a married woman and his eventual suicide. Conflicts and wars - while they may be ugly (or "evil") - PRODUCE beauty and drama. Heroes and villains, love and tragedy, peace and stability are CREATED through conflict, drama and revolutions. Heroes are born through ADVERSITY - without that, what is there to fight for and how can one achieve greatness? Drama and its beauty are impossible without conflict, inequality and tragedy. Also, I am sorry to say this but your uncritical acceptance that "tolerance" is a "good" is perhaps glib and naive. While I agree that tolerance can be a virtue, it can also be dangerous. How can we tolerate "nationalism", "fascism" and "religious fundamentalism" (and those who support such ignorant views) in our daily life? What if the tolerance of certain dangerous views DESTROYED our own society and way of life? The philosopher, Slavoj Zizek, once said that Martin Luther King did NOT ask for African-Americans to be "tolerated" in society. He wanted radical CHANGE by destroying "Jim Crow" racism. Zizek has also argued that certain liberal or "tolerant" policies can bring about the destruction of democracy by far-right extremists and xenophobes. I am not saying I agree with Zizek but he raises an important point. Also you did not spend much time discussing the bitter, angry and petty grievances of the culture warriors in our current society. But that is OK, as that was not the angle you were going for. Thank you again Lewis. Your videos are always wonderful and educational. Keep them coming. I just felt some critical or constructive feedback may be good for discussion. All the best and thanks.
@noelbrown6771
@noelbrown6771 11 ай бұрын
It seems that " Liberals" these days are are becoming what they claim to hate: Intolerant. At least it sounds that way.
@agathafry4233
@agathafry4233 11 ай бұрын
@@noelbrown6771 Intolerance of intolerance is critical to the preservation of liberty for all.
@noelbrown6771
@noelbrown6771 11 ай бұрын
@@agathafry4233 Whats an example of intolerance.
@Michelle_Wellbeck
@Michelle_Wellbeck 11 ай бұрын
One must be careful because there is an inherent tension or disjunction of the invocation of there being an inherent beauty in suffering that has an implication to even today's political and ethical issues. Mother Theresa believed that it was beautiful for there to be suffering for it mirrors the suffering of Christ. This has implications towards issues like should we prohibit abortion or euthanasia, does the suffering that the prohibition of these procedures bring not allow the deliverance of an even greater beauty and grace?
@guywiththebatcostume
@guywiththebatcostume 11 ай бұрын
I would add to this that intolerance is not the only thing that we should not tolerate. Since for the vast majority of us morality does not begin and end in 'tolerance', it is fair to say that we cannot simply let go of everything else.
@edgarrodriguez8973
@edgarrodriguez8973 11 ай бұрын
Amazing vedeo, I didn't know about Schiller's analysis on beauty and ethics and rationality
@tomaslopez2940
@tomaslopez2940 10 ай бұрын
There was one major thing that was missed here: the effect of religion. While the arts are based on relative morals that shift over time, religion is based on absolutes, which explains why today's culture wars don't happen in Middle Eastern countries, or why conservative factions tend to be the ones that Christians flock to. An example of where the religious conservatives defeated the artistic liberals is Afghanistan, where a communist regime tried to pull the country forward, but the conservative muslims ultimately won out after a Soviet intervention.
@Moses_VII
@Moses_VII 6 ай бұрын
This should be top comment
@thedevilsadvocate4669
@thedevilsadvocate4669 4 күн бұрын
Terrific. I love that you don’t use ads in your videos.
@user-qn8gb5xh8w
@user-qn8gb5xh8w 11 ай бұрын
Love these videos!
@sleazycakes
@sleazycakes 11 ай бұрын
Great essay. When it comes to abortion particularly, I don't think the sides boil down to "tolerance vs intolerance." Liberals think you should be free to do whatever you want with your body, and conservatives think the right to life should extend to fetuses. Where do the mother's rights end and the fetus' rights begin? It's not clear who's being more tolerant and inclusive.
@stop.juststop
@stop.juststop 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. It's about framing.
@Damesanglante
@Damesanglante 11 ай бұрын
You are right. Most people of all sides believe they have the moral high ground. We could take the "trans" surgery for minors as another example. Their supporters believe they are helping and fighting hate. Their detractors think it is wrong to perform surgery on minors. Most people here are so deep into their ideology, they don't even try to understand the other side. Personally, i think the "liberals" will lose the culture war because they start targetting children and greedy corporations are on the liberals sides. Rich elites, corporations and governments teamed up to force their ideology on minors was a slippery rope. Prepare for a right wing winter. They went too far.
@agathafry4233
@agathafry4233 11 ай бұрын
@@Damesanglante You're not doing any different than those you criticize. Please inform yourself about the subject you chose as an example. Minors are not targeted or having an ideology forced onto them. Trans minors just exist. They are given gender affirming care appropriate for their age which vastly improves their mental health. Minors do not receive surgery. At the earliest, 16 year olds can obtain top surgery, though it is reportedly rare. No one is getting genital surgery until 18.
@suzannecarter445
@suzannecarter445 11 ай бұрын
Ha! If you've watched a lot of Lewis' videos, you probably wouldn't think he has much of a sense of humor (certainly not the self-deprecating kind). But just watch the opening of this one. Lewis is so marvelous in every way, but we enjoy the bits of humor; there are so many opportunities when discussing these topics.
@profavocado2506
@profavocado2506 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, I hope you are right!
@cronus2692
@cronus2692 10 ай бұрын
Awesome! I just feel peace and calm after watching this video.
@GUILLOTINE_GANG
@GUILLOTINE_GANG 11 ай бұрын
As a fella who shed some tears for Good Dinosaur, the beginning hit home.
@martinmichalek
@martinmichalek 11 ай бұрын
Love all your videos. Going into this one, I was a little worried it would get too neo-libby and preachy (just because the people who usually espouse fighting in the culture war are preachy and performative). My fears were unmerited. Great video, as always, and very well thought out and argued.
@nopasaran191
@nopasaran191 11 ай бұрын
Neo-libby? I don’t think you know what neoliberalism is if you think that this channel is neoliberal. Reagan and Thatcher are like the Marx and Engels of neoliberalism. When you are a neoliberal it means you believe in one of the most extreme forms of capitalism and this channel is absolutely nothing like that
@Intact-gf5zz
@Intact-gf5zz 11 ай бұрын
he isn't one to espouse neoliberalism, tho...am presuming you're one-of-many who envision that 'neoliberal global economics' is synonymous with or related-to what most here would call 'western liberal political ideology', when the two concepts are not at all similar. Don't know who initially termed the global econ changes from the ~70's as "neoliberalism" but boy was that piss-poor naming right there 😮
@TheBLGL
@TheBLGL 11 ай бұрын
That’s not what neoliberal means. It doesn’t mean “New Democrat”, Reagan and Thatcher are two of the most famous neoliberals. Oh, and Pinochet. Clinton is one, too (NAFTA, TANF). As a fellow American, please stop using words you don’t know the meaning to, it’s people like you that cause the world to think we are stupid. Also, liberals (meaning democrats) aren’t left, they are center-right. At best, Bernie and AOC are center, not one of them has called for the workers to own the means of production, or for capitalism to end, they aren’t left.
@TheBLGL
@TheBLGL 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@Intact-gf5zz Google classic liberalism and you will figure out why it’s called neoliberalism. The Chicago school called it that because they saw it as returning to pure capitalism a la Adam Smith, the invisible hand of the market and all that, as opposed to Keynesianism, which said capitalism is gonna have booms and busts, and the government’s job is to prepare for the bust times so the people don’t suffer like in the Great Depression.
@martinmichalek
@martinmichalek 11 ай бұрын
@@Intact-gf5zz you assumed piss-poorly there 😮
@aaron2709
@aaron2709 10 ай бұрын
This is great. Very insightful.
@datamind4113
@datamind4113 4 ай бұрын
Great Video! I tried to understand transcendental idealism, but I came to the realization that I just Kant.
@DSnake655
@DSnake655 10 ай бұрын
11:02 That was awesome. Postmodern, dare I say 🤔
@ariannatrapani5824
@ariannatrapani5824 8 ай бұрын
There's an art form that's often forgotten, maybe because we think lacks emotionally but I know has a huge impact on the lives of every individual and it's almost intertwined with the social and political realm: architecture and urban planning. The space has the power to influence and change human mood and ultimately dictate how we perceive ourselves and the society. One single example: the square in traditional European cities and town, a collective free (malls and media centers aren't) space. I think it's not accidental that squares are almost totally absent in the US suburbia and the European outskirts. These are the environments that promote the most isolation and alienation, powerful social and political tools.
@flyngturtle
@flyngturtle 11 ай бұрын
You do amazing work. You are discussing a rather sensitive topic without too much bias.
@RT710.
@RT710. 11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 don't worry I cried during the final scene of T2 when I was 11 too hehe
@danielc-s8056
@danielc-s8056 10 ай бұрын
The problem with this script is that it ends talking about how Liberal ideas almost always win, but completely misses that the contemporary Left is not Liberal anymore. You should be more honest about the cultural realities we face
@thesevenkingswelove9554
@thesevenkingswelove9554 10 ай бұрын
But he's not wrong. Liberal ideas do always win.
@darrenwithers3628
@darrenwithers3628 8 ай бұрын
"The problem with this script is it doesn't play make believe to suit dumb conservatives"
@foundingfarther1213
@foundingfarther1213 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I love crying to some good stories. I can hardly talk about the need for an Uncle Iroh without my eyes leaking.
@curiouskitkat
@curiouskitkat 11 ай бұрын
I don’t usually like videos, but I did this one just because I liked the way you plugged your stuff lol
@aanchaallllllll
@aanchaallllllll 7 ай бұрын
0:00: 🎥 Understanding the emotional connection to films can help us understand the culture war. 4:23: 🎭 The video discusses the connection between politics and the arts, highlighting Friedrich Schiller as an example. 8:24: 🎨 Art and beauty are fundamental to the politics of freedom, as argued by Schiller in his essay 'Letters on the Aesthetic Education of Man', which still explains much of why culture wars happen today. 12:28: 🎭 Art and passion in storytelling have a strong connection to politics, as seen in the sentimentalism movement in Europe. 16:59: 🎨 The video discusses the connection between art and morality, highlighting the idea that through art, we can shape and create a harmonious and good world. Recap by Tammy AI
@alexanderbuchanan3552
@alexanderbuchanan3552 11 ай бұрын
Cultural production needs to be in the hands of the people not corporations and we need the time and material stability it requires to enjoy good art rather than desire escapist fantasies designed as temporary balm for the pain of alienation and drudgery
@BobHooker
@BobHooker 11 ай бұрын
I found I rarely get emotional by films, but a few times when I watched a movie, no matter how bad, after a long day of activity in the sun I get emotional. Culture connects to politics connects to emotions connects to hydration connects to climate. Its an interesting planet.
@sophanamao3238
@sophanamao3238 8 ай бұрын
Thank u
@afterthesmash
@afterthesmash 7 ай бұрын
The funny thing about the 1700s is that they were a bit of a nothing-burger in major scientific breakthroughs, but many big names in political upheaval come from this era.
@TIKIWOLF
@TIKIWOLF 11 ай бұрын
Art is hugely funded by state & banks, which do not necessarily have the plebs best interest in mind. Comnercial art vs natural beauty. 💰vs🌳
@villemononen5303
@villemononen5303 11 ай бұрын
Art or propaganda? Who knows the difference?
@thelongcount
@thelongcount 7 ай бұрын
Excellent.
@RetepOdaged
@RetepOdaged 10 ай бұрын
Culture Wars are caused by two opposing extremes, the one with the means to shout the loudest is usually the victor even if it's completely wrong for society as a whole.
@darrenwithers3628
@darrenwithers3628 8 ай бұрын
😴
@Grace17893
@Grace17893 10 ай бұрын
God bless you brother great ad
@rexremedy1733
@rexremedy1733 11 ай бұрын
Also ask to whom it matters. And also ask who gains an advantage from engaging in culture warfare. Usually it’s not society as a whole, but small self appointed and entitled groups who beliefe it is worth to sacrifice peace in society to benefit from conflict. Also there is a financial advantage to be gained by fostering culture wars as well as unrighteousness powers to be gained. And also consider what to do if this initiated culture warfare doesn’t go the way it was intended. Also ask you self: Is culture war a form of aggression? Does society benefit?
@seanwieland9763
@seanwieland9763 11 ай бұрын
Right is simply the absence of Left. The problem is with the Left who revolt against the natural order and seek to impose an artificial “utopia”.
@mr1234567899111
@mr1234567899111 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@lunartiedstarlight
@lunartiedstarlight 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. Well spoken explanation of why the culture "war" is important.
@PinkPulpito
@PinkPulpito 11 ай бұрын
A couple or people have the entire forest and the majority of people dont have a single tree for shade.
@KaiHenningsen
@KaiHenningsen 10 ай бұрын
A few remarks: 1. I'm not sure historically, but today, the German word _aufheben_ means either to pick up, or to abolish, but not to lift up. And 2. the closer the subject is to people, the less universal art is. That is why one can recognize what area and era art is from. So with regards to politics, I'd argue that beauty is very much NOT universal.
@blasterblade02
@blasterblade02 11 ай бұрын
Most respectful 10 second interruption I've seen in a YT video
@xazax2641
@xazax2641 11 ай бұрын
your graphics and audio skills have become fantastic. Do you do it all yourself?
@Mushroomdrummer
@Mushroomdrummer 11 ай бұрын
Amazing video. Within the first 5 minutes I was reminded of the very nature of the human mind being divided into two hemispheres. The left brain is logic, reason, problem solving, linear thinking. The right brain is passion, creativity, love, emotions. It’s as if society is a fractal of the very nature of the human mind. And like our two hemispheres… They’re inseparably linked
@TheMeritCoba
@TheMeritCoba 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TheBLGL
@TheBLGL 11 ай бұрын
If you don’t cry at that scene at Schindler’s List, you are probably a Nazi or heartless or something. I’ve seen it like 50 times and I cry every time Schindler has his breakdown.
@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602
@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602 11 ай бұрын
War is the continuation of politics by other means (Carl von Clausewitz). Mao Zedong said that politics is war without blood, just as war is politics with the use of violence. Politics, according to Hannah Arendt, can only exist in the space consensually constructed by different people so that they can live in peace. Therefore, contrary to what Carl von Clausewitz and Mao Zedong said, organized violence can only destroy the space in which politics exists. Culture can be a continuation of politics by other means. The opposite is also true, as politics can eventually be reshaped by cultural movements. But the culture war is not capable of producing absolutely anything, except the paralysis of society and the political system as it happens in the USA. Americans vicariously debate various moral issues turning them into culture wars (some of them irrelevant), but both parties are wholly devoted to increasing military spending. The very Americans who exchange slaps in the streets against or in favor of the gay movement are not capable of questioning American militarism. On the contrary, gays want quotas for gay general officers instead of, for example, closing USA military bases in Italy and Japan. Are the culture wars an instrument for neoliberalism to perpetuate itself without being fundamentally challenged on the political scene? I think the answer is yes, because they destabilize the political arena of depoliticized society without destroying it. Hannah Arend saw the birth of the modern American culture wars and reflected on some of them (like the politicized civil resistance to the Vietnam War, for example), but I suppose she wouldn't much like to see the world they built: the permanent culture war in the USA is a condition of possibility of the permanent state of war of the USA in the whole world. And now the American culture wars empowered by social media will become even worse because of Artificial Intelligence, a new technology that will surely be used to divert the population's attention and keep it stuck in useless and politically irrelevant culture wars.
@olegslapins8156
@olegslapins8156 11 ай бұрын
It took me quite a while to come to the same conclusion.
@MrALukic
@MrALukic 11 ай бұрын
Thanks
@alokinrainborn
@alokinrainborn 11 ай бұрын
Bonus points for adding the original A Star Is Born
@adamjohnson5931
@adamjohnson5931 11 ай бұрын
Philosophers propped up by the aristocracy had mixed feelings on the revolution? Seems they were more sympathetic to the plight of the underlings in theory a tad bit more than in practice lol
@dbass4973
@dbass4973 11 ай бұрын
by that times the most progressive part of the aristocracy has moved on to have their own businesses and became bourgeoisie themselves so of course they propped the philosophers
@gusgus1816
@gusgus1816 10 ай бұрын
Really cool. Thank u
@zzooeecastles
@zzooeecastles 11 ай бұрын
B&W Flicks for some reason maybe lack of colour, different acting style (clear words and actions) great cinematography or just writing style but i cry a lot watching them::)
@kylewollman2239
@kylewollman2239 11 ай бұрын
I do sometimes wonder if the arch of history actually bends toward justice. It sounds nice, but how true is it?
@markdickey9642
@markdickey9642 11 ай бұрын
You are amazing!
@user-gs7oe4wd1l
@user-gs7oe4wd1l 5 ай бұрын
"On the Aesthetic Education of Man" by Schiller is one of my absolute favorite books, well, it's a collection of letters but still.
@theysayisagorilla
@theysayisagorilla 11 ай бұрын
You forgot the several scenes in the green mile. That movies pure waterworks from start to finish. I can't name jst one scene. But the epitome of emotional destruction in any movie is the scene they kill John Coffey. Rest in heaven John.
@th-ck9vl
@th-ck9vl 11 ай бұрын
Super half way irrelevant but I just got reminded of this ancient drafted meme of my friend who used one of those Skyrim guards looking over a body and going "what a waste" and over the body the caption was like "conservative aquarius" 😂
@interstellarsurfer
@interstellarsurfer 11 ай бұрын
That bell sound caused my brains to leak out my ear. Thanks. 😵
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