Why David Haye DESTROYS Modern Heavyweight Boxers

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Joey Knight Boxing

Joey Knight Boxing

Күн бұрын

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@TrueGeordie
@TrueGeordie Ай бұрын
Proper boxing content 🙌🏼🙌🏼
@dappa-s8u
@dappa-s8u Ай бұрын
TrueGeordie you mountain of a Man.💪👍
@klsecond5755
@klsecond5755 Ай бұрын
@@dappa-s8u won't shag
@johnwallace627
@johnwallace627 Ай бұрын
yt boy cracka
@joeneil5485
@joeneil5485 Ай бұрын
As an American watching on, Lewis is the be-all-end-all of UK heavyweights in and out of the ring... Awesome commentator too...
@dappa-s8u
@dappa-s8u Ай бұрын
@@joeneil5485 👍💯agree.
@radioactivepotato2068
@radioactivepotato2068 Ай бұрын
Haye was a thinker. More specifically, an overthinker. He is intelligent, consciencous, fairly agreeable,. These aren't necessarily the traits of a killer in a boxing ring. But. In the theatre of war, his fight or flight was tuned firmly to fight. His palpable nervous energy would have him pounce on his man with so much as a sniff of an opening, a glint of light through armour, and he had to tools to dispose of his opponent in truly emphatic fashion. I like Haye. There's a human story in his career. Not like Ngannou who worked his way out of a mine, or Fury overcoming an addiction. But a story of a man, who unlike AJ, never let that demon on his shoulder get the better of him. He is a warrior, a champion, and I feel privileged to have witnessed his contribution to British, and boxing as a whole. Big up The Hayemaker. Good times.
@alexferrana3979
@alexferrana3979 Ай бұрын
Well said!
@christopherreynolds9254
@christopherreynolds9254 Ай бұрын
Massively underrated boxer
@alexferrana3979
@alexferrana3979 Ай бұрын
Agree. He is like Usyk, but a bot different
@liamdunphy7496
@liamdunphy7496 Ай бұрын
And allt worse ​@@alexferrana3979
@TheLoudog44
@TheLoudog44 Ай бұрын
Haye was a typical fast twitch muscle fibre fighter. Very effective but very vulnerable to injury and aging.
@jetmirselimi8944
@jetmirselimi8944 Ай бұрын
interesting observation, just out of curiosity, why would an explosive fast twitch athlete be more prone to injury?
@Abyssian007
@Abyssian007 Ай бұрын
​@@jetmirselimi8944 To grossly simplify the thinking behind this, it relies on the idea that as you age "fast twitch fibre" becomes less flexible, slower to recover and prone to tears. The fibber type in question is extremely demanding in energy and not particularly resistant to fatigue sometime moreso as within the type of fast twitch fibber there are variations which improves or reduces these effects. The problem arises when there is a repetition of brutally fast movements; which as the fatigue settles in, have more chances of causing tears and therefore injuries. The aging athlete will still demand the same effort from a muscle it has always done, alas said muscle no longer sustain such explosivity and will result in injury-riddle athletes past 27-30. It is also a self fulfilling prophecy as in boxing slowing down when a boxer relied on speed his entire career results in dramatic consequence as the he gets hit more often and therefore get hurt a lot more often than he would be accustomed and conditioned to sustain. However, note that I have never read any real concrete scientifical evidence proving this theory, it just "conveniently" passes the eye test across multiple sports where numerous famously explosive athletes have short injury-plagued career.
@hugh7251
@hugh7251 23 күн бұрын
@@jetmirselimi8944 explosivity and athleticism generally have more wear and tear on the body, if I use the example of other sports for example theo walcott incredibly explosive short lived prime due to injury, this can also been seen in the case of nba players russel westbrook and derrick rose two of the most explosive player ever in basketball very short primes
@jshaw4757
@jshaw4757 22 күн бұрын
​@@jetmirselimi8944Full power in twitch response can potentially cause a body injury the speed with all in n fast give you a solid fast whack but if you twist pull kinda twist or get hit in this speed momentum it will refract onto your body n just rip something very easy your working with lighting...if in n out you 'Spark' ⚡️ people out...but if during that twitch response someone throws a spanner into works all that energy gonna go back into you causing a lighting blow out very easily as it's all energy vibration all this ...that's just my thinking sure I'm wrong..cheers
@rjworldsportsnews
@rjworldsportsnews 17 күн бұрын
This video about Haye’s career was amazing mate - I was very much like you - I was a huge Haye fan but I have always thought the exact same that the way his career ended - even though he lost badly - he got that chance to show how much heart and fight he had and get rid of the big toe legacy that kept following him around after Klitschko fight and then the subsequent big fight pull outs with Fury etc. was fitting that Haye got to prove his heart - even though true Haye fans like us already knew he had heart - but that big toe excuse and the way he lost to Klitschko he struggled to shake that off
@SamBeighton
@SamBeighton Ай бұрын
David Haye should be spoken about with way more respect
@somah1470
@somah1470 Ай бұрын
His performance got better after his loss against Sprost. He got injected...
@joeneil5485
@joeneil5485 Ай бұрын
Any scandal attached to him...? He seems like a good guy...
@dukejivetalker7541
@dukejivetalker7541 Ай бұрын
Are you fucking high? Haye couldnt even beat klitschko what makes you think he handles Usyk. Sure Haye might have some luck with bums like parker or fury but thats not saying anything. Haye was not a complete fighter. Just a brawler with a shit attitude and sloppy feet and defense.
@bobgarrett7134
@bobgarrett7134 Ай бұрын
@@joeneil5485 look at his losses. Klitschko easily outboxed him. He had a lot to say. Kind of like Ali -- who got beaten by prohibitive underdogs.
@joeneil5485
@joeneil5485 Ай бұрын
@@bobgarrett7134 I mean doping, woman-beating, etc...
@Round_Zero
@Round_Zero Ай бұрын
So I was at the MOBOS about 10/11 years ago and me and a couple of friends had a limousine. We seen David Haye waiting for a taxi outside and I was like guys do you know who this is he’s the former heavy weight champion of the world. I said to the driver take this man home first then come back for us. I really hope he remembers this as he was such a decent person to talk too and be around. Back then though boxing was no where near as big.
@agnikaineverdies7646
@agnikaineverdies7646 Ай бұрын
David Haye had the best trash talk of all time
@phillipcarlroberts4640
@phillipcarlroberts4640 Ай бұрын
Tony Bellew schooled the Haye in the build up to the fight with trash talk, Haye had no retorts.
@jus2jase
@jus2jase Ай бұрын
Don't agree
@AlexC-vd7vp
@AlexC-vd7vp Ай бұрын
Watch all his press conferences with Tyson Fury, he got 10-8’d so hard he pulled out - twice!
@agnikaineverdies7646
@agnikaineverdies7646 Ай бұрын
@@AlexC-vd7vp , that’s because Fury had a lot of ammunition on Haye after he showed his toe, he wouldn’t be able to win an argument against anybody after that
@AlexC-vd7vp
@AlexC-vd7vp Ай бұрын
@ not entirely, no. You’re thinking of the later general David Haye dog pilling when he mentioned his toe. I’m referring to was the media/press conferences of the first planned fight with David Haye Fury was supposed to have. Originally Fury was supposed to fight Fury in September of 2013. He completely tore him apart and he pulled out again lol
@Jayy149
@Jayy149 Ай бұрын
Love this content the only KZbinr with good content on fights,breakdown and hypotheticals
@JohnMarkss
@JohnMarkss Ай бұрын
Excellent video. I actually had Haye to knock Fury out at the time. Obviously, Fury went on to be a bit special, but at the time I had Haye as a clear favourite. Haye was no joke. Proper mean guy.
@lukesenior4563
@lukesenior4563 Ай бұрын
Another class video mate. You are pumping out some quality content. On fire
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Ай бұрын
Great channel. I found it a couple of days ago, and I'm watching every video at the moment. Brilliant points, especially the one about anyone being able to beat anyone nowadays, with the Saudi involvement in Boxing.
@conandoyle1740
@conandoyle1740 26 күн бұрын
15:07 that was the best David Haye ever in my Op
@mathematics557
@mathematics557 Ай бұрын
Completely agree, David Haye is criminally underrated. He had a very exciting fighting style, having a combination of athleticism, quick hands, and explosiveness.
@kaarelkesamaa4395
@kaarelkesamaa4395 Ай бұрын
You are so so good! Really love your content. In my life was also David Haye the first whom career I was watching from start to finish. Hope you gonna spoil us more with that kind of content! Very best from Estonia
@paintballing489
@paintballing489 Ай бұрын
Can we all stop and appreaciate the thumbnail! 🔥🔥🔥
@tyronealaka6537
@tyronealaka6537 23 күн бұрын
You mean the toe
@htinternational2474
@htinternational2474 11 күн бұрын
The Chisora encounter 😂😂always gets me rolling 😅 he glassed me
@timmayes2863
@timmayes2863 Ай бұрын
He went out sad the last two loses really gave his career a black eye
@bobabrams6759
@bobabrams6759 Ай бұрын
One if the best videos!
@Kohoutek22
@Kohoutek22 Ай бұрын
Fantastic video! 😀 Keep up the good work. 🥊
@zixvs6883
@zixvs6883 Ай бұрын
this channel is majorly underrated, some of the best boxing content out there
@cjns5253
@cjns5253 Ай бұрын
He was my first boxing hero still watch his fights now my favourite is the Jean Marc mormeck fight in Paris
@drewwall2359
@drewwall2359 10 күн бұрын
You are correct in calling Pro Wrestling scripted, but calling it fake does it a massive disservice
@tomwarwick6416
@tomwarwick6416 Ай бұрын
Great vid as always 👏
@VicArndale
@VicArndale Ай бұрын
1:24Friday Night Raw
@namoore-0249b
@namoore-0249b Ай бұрын
Monday night Smackdown!
@VicArndale
@VicArndale Ай бұрын
Wednesday night Superstars
@waynegoddard4065
@waynegoddard4065 Ай бұрын
You earned a subscriber. Well done you. Nice video. Haye was good to watch.
@dieserder
@dieserder Ай бұрын
Great episode! Loved the Haye era in heavyweight boxing. A pity that those injury put a quick end to his heavyweight phase. The fury fight would have been epic.
@Anabsurdsuggestion
@Anabsurdsuggestion Ай бұрын
Love your enthusiasm.
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Ай бұрын
I'm a lot older. I was a massive WWF fan from 1989-1993. I also watched a lot of boxing at the same time. I was a Frank Bruno fan, but I also loved the Benn, Eubank, Watson drama. David Haye is underrated in my opinion. He was a very good fighter. He's now a great pundit and commentator.
@Disci-pain
@Disci-pain Ай бұрын
Great breakdown brother 👏🏽👏🏽
@horrythehulk
@horrythehulk Ай бұрын
Quality video mate, loved haye, what a fighter.
@Fooknose88
@Fooknose88 Ай бұрын
Big up chisora 👊 he has literally fought everyone, and gives us a benchmark of heavyweights what a legend one of my favourite fighters.
@sirlloyd6386
@sirlloyd6386 Ай бұрын
I feel so sorry for boxing fans who weren’t born early enough to be able to stay up late and watch Mike Tyson LIVE!! (I was born in the 1970’s). Watching Tyson when he fought Ruddock twice, then when he came out of prison and was chiseled and nasty as hell. By far the most exciting fight I’ve ever watched LIVE on PPV was Tyson v Holyfield II It was like watching a movie. The build up daily on SKY Sports was terrific. I also had the privilege of watching Tyson in Manchester in 2000. For all the shit that comes with being 50 now, with back problems, sciatica, dislocated shoulders, elbow and hand pain, dislocating my knee when I kneel to play with my 4 year old Son! (I boxed at St.Paul’s in Hull for 16 years) Luke Campbell kicked my arse and I didn’t land a single punch on him! I wouldn’t change it. Grew up in the best boxing years. Bless you all, from Steve in Hull 🥴
@PeculiAair
@PeculiAair Ай бұрын
I agree. Thank you for the nostalgia (subscribed).
@valttivisuals
@valttivisuals Ай бұрын
Love the recent activity on the channel👌
@AgentSmith001
@AgentSmith001 Ай бұрын
Athleticism was the key Haye ingredient along with the fact he was a big hitter and he put bums on seats He learnt the hard way against the durable Carl Thompson that you can't just blow everyone out early and that loss turned him around as a fighter
@letzvisit1661
@letzvisit1661 29 күн бұрын
Hey joey can you do some videos on your training and nutrition etc the kinda thing up and coming boxers would need to go through. With your own opinions and things like that? The type of stuff you do personally and maybe give insight into making weight etc. Maybe share some routines?
@moneytree5682
@moneytree5682 Ай бұрын
David Haye will always be an important figure in british boxing for the excitment he brought to the boxing scene during the dull klitschko era. Hes also a great fighter for fantasy matchups due to his power and athleticism
@lukemaker8618
@lukemaker8618 Ай бұрын
Joey man thanks for this video really good quality i generally agree with your hypothetical match ups that was quite fun to think about - i think several of those match ups would be one each way if fought twice.. a lot of genuine toss ups for me Hrgovic, Parker is staright 50/50, i think i lean Dubois and then Fury, Usyk are liekly L's for Haye but i think you're right he'd have a very good showing against Zhang although there is a high chance we gets over confident and then chinned but yeah what a great fighter to watch in and out of the ring David Haye the man
@Hrollief1
@Hrollief1 Ай бұрын
David Haye gets destroyed by prime Usyk, Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Dubois, Parker…he didn’t even look that great in a crap era.
@Totentanz2440
@Totentanz2440 Ай бұрын
Yeah... The idea of Haye being able to destroy these guys is just a big joke. When he went against someone of serious note, he got bitched around the entire ring, and the entire leadup to the hypotheticals is just the guy talking about how he loves Haye.
@joejoyce9979
@joejoyce9979 Ай бұрын
@@Totentanz2440 Haye would be a danger to all those guys. Going on Joshuas track-record against short, fast, explosive fighters, He gets kod by Haye. Haye kod a prime Chisora in 5 rounds, Chisora went the distance with 3 of the 6 guys you mentioned.
@RodrigoLima-ti9ol
@RodrigoLima-ti9ol Ай бұрын
​@@joejoyce9979 Even Bellew schooled Haye he just a bum
@joejoyce9979
@joejoyce9979 Ай бұрын
@@RodrigoLima-ti9ol Danny Williams destroyed Mike Tyson. Doesn't mean anything. Prime Haye likely kos Bellew.
@Tt9tucker994
@Tt9tucker994 Ай бұрын
Na if hair fought fury back in 2013 when they was supposed to he would of done fury fury actually got a right bit of luck with hate getting injured twice and the fight got put off in the end because of it he then went on to fight wladimir for the title instead but fury back then couldn’t of handled haye
@SmithLui-h5z
@SmithLui-h5z Ай бұрын
Love your work, Joey. I agree. 💪👊
@griff2712
@griff2712 Ай бұрын
Genuine warrior. Prime Haye Vs Fabio Wardley would be an interesting watch.
@matthewcopson5006
@matthewcopson5006 Ай бұрын
Great video
@ryanwilliams4223
@ryanwilliams4223 Ай бұрын
That double crack on Chisora would of took a chunk out of Everest it was ruthless.
@leemartins7081
@leemartins7081 Ай бұрын
No one has beaten the shit out of Chisora more than Haye did. Del Boy is a very tough man. Shows how hard Haye could hit.
@ryanwilliams4223
@ryanwilliams4223 Ай бұрын
@@leemartins7081 Ye gotta agree with you Haye would of flattened Whyte gave Joshua trouble as well I reckon and maybe done ok against Fury.
@dappa-s8u
@dappa-s8u Ай бұрын
Joey Knight another good video.👍🥊
@Crazyoldman84
@Crazyoldman84 Ай бұрын
The fact Haye went 12 rounds with Klitschko and came out practically unmarked is proof enough.
@Chris-m8e
@Chris-m8e 17 күн бұрын
He lost every round there is going 12 and surviving 12 Kkithscho hardly broke sweat when 1 punch landed wins round shows the pathetic spectecle it was.And after all his rantings Valuev was man there to be beaten first man with slightest ability was allways going to beat him
@campbells0ups
@campbells0ups 6 күн бұрын
this guy was pretty good back in his Hayeday.
@Rugbiii
@Rugbiii Ай бұрын
It’s Monday night Raw, Friday night Smackdown you casual…..😉
@Cslicksmusic91
@Cslicksmusic91 27 күн бұрын
I remember watching raw on Friday nights then smackdown on Saturday mornings
@drewwall2359
@drewwall2359 10 күн бұрын
When he called wrestling fake that made me dislike instantly
@bearwolffish
@bearwolffish Ай бұрын
clean talker and very intelligent with it.
@georgebarrington94
@georgebarrington94 28 күн бұрын
Wilder was one of David's tough sparring partners
@TheDreamer1980
@TheDreamer1980 Ай бұрын
Still think haye at his best would of beat fury
@GhostonYoutube201x
@GhostonYoutube201x Ай бұрын
current fury who is easy to hit. the old fury would of beat him, he was wlad but better
@naeemislam1105
@naeemislam1105 Ай бұрын
​@@GhostonKZbin201xno he wasn't. Fought nothing like wlad. Fury does certain things better than wlad and wlad does certain things better than haye
@DirtyJamesUK
@DirtyJamesUK Ай бұрын
I don't think he'd have beaten any version of Fury. This one that Usyk beat, beats Haye for me.
@TheDreamer1980
@TheDreamer1980 Ай бұрын
@@DirtyJamesUK maybe but when you think about fury never really fought many big punchers who were as quick and skilled as haye at his peak, Klitschko and Wilder, that's it and Wilder can't box and is the most telegraphed puncher around, Vlad was past his best and yeah couldn't properly land on fury but still, fury avoided big punchers, price, young Aj, fury got good recovery and decent chin but I think haye would of blew him out within 5/6 rounds, whatever anyone says, haye could bang and was, strong, fury struggled with Cunningham power
@DirtyJamesUK
@DirtyJamesUK Ай бұрын
@@TheDreamer1980 Haye reminds me of a smaller version of Wilder.
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl Ай бұрын
David Haye was afraid of big punchers. Wlad Klitschko was STOPPED by Ross Purrity, Lamon Brewster & Corrie Sanders. He was chinny & DEFINITELY beatable BUT David Haye was scared to engage with Wlad because Wlad had a BIG punch. Haye would lose to ANY fighter who packed a decent wallop simply because Haye would be too scared to get within punching range.
@gabrielsteffensen3700
@gabrielsteffensen3700 Ай бұрын
Klitschko wasnt chinny, he had a normal chin but being a HW makes the risk of being chinned quite big. Corrie sanders was a massive puncher, and against the other fighters it was more due to stamina. He took a uppercut from Joshua at 41 years of age and was still on his legs, he wasn’t granite but he wasn’t chinny either, he was just better than haye, who was too small at the weight and relied too much on his athletics. Just look at his fight against valuev, Holyfield at 100 years of age did arguably better against valuev.
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl Ай бұрын
@@gabrielsteffensen3700 What makes you think that Joshua was a puncher? All those big, bulging muscles? Name ONE noted granite chin that Joshua cracked. I'll wait........
@aos2308
@aos2308 Ай бұрын
@@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dlngannou had literally never even been stunned or dropped, let alone ko’d, in mma with 4oz gloves against some of the greatest ufc heavyweights of all time.
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl
@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl Ай бұрын
@@aos2308 MMA is NOT boxing, is it? Look, mate; THIS is the deal - a NOTED granite chin in BOXING came in the form of Andy Ruiz Jr. If Femi has starched Ruiz Jr. then his power would have been proven beyond question. He had TWO fights opportunity to prove his power by ironing out Ruiz Jr., did he not? Remind me how that went for Femi........ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙄
@aos2308
@aos2308 Ай бұрын
@@ANationalAcrobat-qj2dl oh nice another one of these creepy little nonces that call him femi and analyse his every move. You and that ajs Irish grandmother account prob exchange backshots underneath your fury poster that’s stuck to your crumbling council estate walls👍
@TheGamingCircle
@TheGamingCircle Ай бұрын
The Hayemaker was special:-))
@mrironlunglungzielungzietv6697
@mrironlunglungzielungzietv6697 7 сағат бұрын
He was hard af shame he couldn't add to he's defence he would have been usyk before usyk
@klsecond5755
@klsecond5755 Ай бұрын
"Friday night Raw" you been drinking Joey??
@CalCoolio
@CalCoolio Ай бұрын
Pro wrestling is real Joey :)
@elhanhuka7655
@elhanhuka7655 Ай бұрын
Luxunburg boxing board i think are the WBF section body
@petermorrissey8497
@petermorrissey8497 19 күн бұрын
His broken toe would hamper your ability to throw the right hand with full power.
@jus2jase
@jus2jase Ай бұрын
Haven't watched this, but call cap on title.
@Leo-vp9tz
@Leo-vp9tz Ай бұрын
My dads friend actually knocked David haye out at amateur. Haye tried to get the video took off KZbin but was unsuccessful.
@DirtyJamesUK
@DirtyJamesUK Ай бұрын
22:10 you've got a point here. Haye would have been a very interesting player in this era of HW boxing. I don't think he'd be top, though.
@Hazaroth
@Hazaroth Ай бұрын
Haye was a national treasure. I’d say he’d be around the same level as Parker in the current era
@conandoyle1740
@conandoyle1740 Ай бұрын
Parker is terrible haye way above that level
@TheAcuphase
@TheAcuphase Ай бұрын
Prime Povetkin and prime Pulev were in the same era as prime David Haye. They didn't come along after he retired. They stuck around.
@Brandon-g7u1t
@Brandon-g7u1t 25 күн бұрын
I honestly think a Prime injury free david haye batters every heavyweight today maybe except Usyk and AJ
@josepharmstrong4639
@josepharmstrong4639 Ай бұрын
Carl Thompson handed him his backside. Never really beat a household name. His resume isn’t as great as people say. But fair play. He was a CW and HW champ. More than most people can say. I think he was such a good talker people bought into his hype. Great right hand though.
@Bob-v3d8t
@Bob-v3d8t Ай бұрын
He would be schooled by Usyk and Fury but he could be a contender
@kmkzrblx1877
@kmkzrblx1877 Ай бұрын
i think david haye would be around at joseph parker level
@Eraser902
@Eraser902 Ай бұрын
Let me just start by saying I like Haye, followed his career right from the start, have seen almost all of his fights, and rate him highly. He was a very dangerous and exciting customer with huge power, speed and athleticism Knocked out in the ABAs by Jim Twite. Stopped by Solis in the World Championships. CW Haye Stopped by a 40 year old Carl Thompson. Sure Haye gassed but Thompson took everything he could dish out and stopped him Dropped heavily, badly hurt and almost knocked out by the much smaller (SMW-LHW) Lolenga Mock who was 0-4-1 in his last 5 fights. In fact, he was hurt so badly by that right hand over the top he had to rugby tackle Mock to the canvas to buy time for his head to clear. Can you imagine the crap Usyk would get if he'd been dropped heavily and was literally a punch away from being sparked out by a blown up SMW journeyman who was 0-4-1 in his last 5 fights? Haye went life-and-death with Fragomeni. If the Italian possessed even a semblance of power he would've stopped him. Haye was dropped and put on spaghetti legs by Mormeck who wasn't a big puncher Haye's best wins at CW Mormeck Fragomeni Enzo Gurov Two of his best wins at that weight came against opponents who were packing serious glass (Enzo and Gurov). Both those guys could undoubtedly punch but Guvov had been stopped x 4 going into that fight, 3 times of which early (1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds), and Enzo had been KO'd in 3 by a domestic level and would go on to lose 2 of his next 3 fights via stoppage too, and then the following year after that last KO loss he was brutally sparked out cold. Of their combined 14 losses 13 of them were inside the distance Haye's best wins at HW Valuev Ruiz (washed, never fought again) Chisora All of whom big slow plodders or slow plodders Wlad schooled him and would've KO'd him had Haye not fought to survive. Lost twice to Bellew via stoppage. Sure he was injury-ravaged but even in the rematch he was younger than Usyk is now but people act like the later is still un his prime when he hasn't been for years Haye would be dangerous and competitive in this era and he would beat some of the top HWs and lose to some of the others. No way he'd beat Usyk and let's not forget Haye's chin was vulnerable and there are lots of big punchers and KO artists giants among the current crop who could KO him or knock him senseless
@conandoyle1740
@conandoyle1740 27 күн бұрын
Followed the career from around 2007-8 very closely as well. My take is following: Haye had two careers (maybe 3 if you count the comeback against Bellew) 1. Pre PED’s and Steroids Up until the Thompson loss 2. Everything after the Thompson loss but specifically everything after he had his training camp for Enzo in Miami 2007/8. People who followed his career closely know that’s where everything changed. Haye all of a sudden had - more speed and power than ever - improved punch resistance to body and Head - more balance and legs - completely different body composition Reduced body fat while being heavier and carrying more muscle mass 1 year and a bit later in 2009 Haye fought a giant of a Man for the real WBA title. Haye looked unrecognisable compared to just 2 years prior. Almost knocked the giant down as well. Overall an extreme feat and underrated as hell performance he pulled of that night, till this day. If you watch that fight and then his following run, maybe besides the Off night against Wlad (who was at his peak back then with Steward in his corner) it’s very evident to me that Haye used some loopholes in the Vada testing system to enhance himself. Especially against Chisora in 2012 a fight I watched live ringside, it was extremely suspect how different Haye looked and performed against a mountain of a Heavyweight weighing like 20kg more than him. Remember just 4 years prior to that Haye struggled badly against Mormeck who was like 50-60lbs lighter than Chisora. Haye would have continued to peak or stayed at that level for some years if his body wouldn’t have given up on him is my take. I have no doubt that at this stage Haye would have made an easy nights work of a young immature Fury. Haye was always up for shenanigans like the retirement farce he pulled with his old pal Elliot who wrote a book on him. I believe Haye never wanted to retire that early and his body just was ravaged by the Ped use and the hardcore training. In 2014-15 he lost Millions of pounds by investing in some fraudulent gym chain in Dubai, then he had a costly divorce in 2016 and that’s what made him do that move to come back. Haye mentioned there was a documentary he had been filming since 2011 and the losses against bellew sort of derailed that from coming out, maybe he is waiting for one last opportunity to put a happy ending to this and we will see what really happened in the latter stages of his career. Haye was extremely exciting and def. One of the most explosive punchers in recent Boxing history, he was just one tiny step away from having the recognition. If he had won that Klitschko fight he’d be a hall of famer now.
@leemartins7081
@leemartins7081 Ай бұрын
Haye was a great fighter who gets too much stick for the toe injury, which was legitimate and would effect any fighter. He was slick, fast and strong. Unfortunately, at about 6'3 and 16 stone, he was just a little too small to deal with the freakishly big Wlad. Belluw's wins really shouldn't be considered as his body was broken at that stage.
@klsecond5755
@klsecond5755 Ай бұрын
8:21 no, he went up to heavyweight against Bonin before Mormeck
@VicArndale
@VicArndale Ай бұрын
Even earlier according to BoxRec, after losing to Thompson, his return was at 203lb vs 217lb Semiskur, but that's down as CW, his next fight at 206lb vs 229lb Delaney is down as HW
@dajay2k
@dajay2k Ай бұрын
30 minutes, ok then Im strapped in
@tinkertable1977
@tinkertable1977 Ай бұрын
I was devastated when Haye Fury was called out. Haye had Fury covered at that time. Fury was nowhere near as good back then and he didn’t have the power to keep Haye away.
@themvp7469
@themvp7469 Ай бұрын
Love your content! Keep it up! Will however disagree with your dismissal(you dont seem to rate them) of the Klitschko reign..The guys were brilliant.. I know you're a guy who loves action (64 wins and 53 by KO for Wladimir btw and 45 wins and 41 by KO for Vitaliy.. Ridiculous considering the amount of fights as well) but you usually appreciate high skill and you seem to dismiss Klitschko's whenever you speak of them. Undefeated for 11 years and only at 39 after such a long reign finally losing to the younger guys was bound to happen. Absolute masterclass and reign of domination. But i guess agree to disagree. I loved watching them fight. Not spoken about enough these days, but i do only watch English youtubers for boxing so fair enough.
@askboutab1790
@askboutab1790 Ай бұрын
Friday night raw?
@VicArndale
@VicArndale Ай бұрын
I think it aired on Fridays in England
@askboutab1790
@askboutab1790 Ай бұрын
@@VicArndaleoh makes sense 😂😂
@Giganotabehemoth87
@Giganotabehemoth87 Ай бұрын
Vs Wilder = Cagey shootout but Haye's better IQ would counter Wilder and then finish him explosively. Ends before 6. Vs AJ = Similar but AJ's inability to take a shot makes the finishing process easier if not a conclusive knockout. Vs Fury = Fury's experienced gained from the Cunningham fight prepares him for the right hands and wins a safe points decision. Fury too big too long. I also believe this is the outcome had they fought when they were supposed to all them years ago as Fury was really levelling up his game then under Peter in preparation for Wlad, couple that with studying Haye's/Wlad performance. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Haye cracked him and gets Fury in all sorts of trouble but you then start to favour Fury's miraculous powers of recovery to wear down a fading Haye that blew the gas tank. Yeah I know this mimics Joey's take lol. Basically agree with the whole video so this was a waste of time. Yep.
@sixpaths6503
@sixpaths6503 Ай бұрын
I think wilder would spark haye out just bc of his style explosiveness power and reach also wilder has a chin and heart especially in his prime and when they sparred wilder was a prospect and in that camp the other heavyweight said wilder got the better out of everybody in that camp
@tinkertable1977
@tinkertable1977 Ай бұрын
Haye may have become a great cruiserweight with a bit more time. He over trained and over bulked at heavy weight which slowed him a little and lead to several injuries which ended his career. I would put a prime Haye in with any of today’s heavyweights. His Chisora fight was great. No one has knocked out Chisora in 5 rounds, before or after that.
@rickdurro1091
@rickdurro1091 18 күн бұрын
Yes haye would do well with today's heavyweights but you could say that about a lot of heavyweight boxers from the past
@pxno2
@pxno2 Ай бұрын
those sound effects haha
@crazyivan2356
@crazyivan2356 Ай бұрын
Too bad Haye quit boxing. He was the only one who had a chance against Usyk. But with the statement "DESTROYS Modern Heavyweight Boxers," only one person comes to mind-David Tua. If you check his physical state now, you'd be shocked! Every single current heavyweight has no chance against him.
@vn5520
@vn5520 Ай бұрын
He beats them all in his prime too fast hits way too hard
@somah1470
@somah1470 Ай бұрын
Haye was good, but not on the level of Usyk or Holyfield. He was very inactive and unbrave against an aging Klitcshko.
@jason41a
@jason41a 15 күн бұрын
i think haye vs (prime for prime): - usyk, haye would lose. i mean usyk is in the conversation for the GOAT cruiser weight, and the first undisputed heavy since lennox. - fury, haye would still have lost. fury is still great and much bigger. - joshua, i think haye wins. haye can dance around and pepper AJ with jabs and one-twos which are just much faster than AJ's - wilder, haye could win if he goes to the right and was able to avoid wilder's right. just gotta stay defensively responsible. - joe joyce, idk, haye should win by decision. but prime joe joyce had a chin that even if haye hits him flush 10 times, he ain't gon crack. but i doubt joe could hit haye. - jo-park. i really don't know for this one. - zhang, with parker vs zhang, i think it would be similar for haye vs zhang. but again, when exactly is zhang's prime. maybe he was really good in his early 30s but we didn't see it.
@shahbaz6741
@shahbaz6741 Ай бұрын
Hayemaker infamous
@front_ed169
@front_ed169 11 күн бұрын
maaan, Haye's injuries were so disappointing back to the time
@geraintgriffiths9435
@geraintgriffiths9435 Ай бұрын
David has the size and frame of a heavyweight so why did he waste most of his career at cruiserweight?
@klsecond5755
@klsecond5755 Ай бұрын
one dimmensional ambush fighter. Excellent cruiserweight though.
@nativewildman9335
@nativewildman9335 23 күн бұрын
Sonny Listen would do great in this time era in boxing probably be the champ easy
@stephenhanby2338
@stephenhanby2338 18 күн бұрын
Shock horror you said that about Aj bro your bias is in real
@gaelic_granite4399
@gaelic_granite4399 Ай бұрын
Really love these career breakdowns. Really do think this current generation missed out on calzhaghe , remember watching him against Lacey when I was a kid and was hooked
@charlieparker7159
@charlieparker7159 Ай бұрын
What top fighters did Haye beat? Fury, Usyk, AJ, Parker, Dubois, Ruiz all beat him
@AshG87-007
@AshG87-007 Ай бұрын
No way Dubois beats Haye 😂
@kmkzrblx1877
@kmkzrblx1877 Ай бұрын
dubois too big for him
@AshG87-007
@AshG87-007 Ай бұрын
@@kmkzrblx1877Valuev wasn’t
@sly_tendencies87
@sly_tendencies87 Ай бұрын
David made a living trashing people, and then he does an ad campaign for anti-bullying? Sure Dave.
@mlegend5741
@mlegend5741 Ай бұрын
For me personally David haye would beat pretty much all of them bar Hrgovic who i just think would beat him pretty easy there are also a lot of toss ups I would favour usyk to win being the superior boxer but honestly I believe David haye would chin him he’s more elusive than usyk hits harder and is the stronger of the 2 I can see it going either way. I think he Knocks wilder out easy. He knocks out AJ easy. Fury is another 50/50 toss up. I can see fury pulling a wlad on him, but can also see Haye putting Tyson down multiple times and potentially stopping him or winning due to the knockdowns on points tough tough fight though. Andy Ruiz isn’t a top heavyweight in my opinion and Haye would beat him pretty comfortably just with his jab alone. Haye was a legit special fighter like he wasn’t all hype like a lot of the guys in this generation. He was a legitimate massive puncher and was very very elusive in his prime and was a brilliant counter puncher. He was top tier in all those aspects.
@Hazaroth
@Hazaroth Ай бұрын
Interesting take, what makes you think Hrgovic beats him more easily than anyone else?
@mlegend5741
@mlegend5741 Ай бұрын
@ stylistically it’s a really bad match up, biggest thing though I’d say his ability to take a shot. The current generation of heavyweights a lot of them can’t really take a shot and they have been overly protected if you look at their records. AJ has beaten a bunch of old men and mid level opposition when he’s faced credible fighters in Usyk and Dubois he was soundly beat. Fury has only 4 credible names on his record Deontay wilder, Klitshco, Dillian whyte and Usyk. Deontay wilder has only lost when he’s stepped up aside from Luis Ortiz who he went life and death with in the first fight. Like these guys have not been built on actual credibility but hype not saying their bad fighters but they aren’t what they’re made out to be and they’re just not at that elite level. Haye on the other hand did fight top quality opposition especially at cruiserweight and just with the skill set he displayed it’s just far above what these guys have been up against. AJ has only faced klitscho and Dubois as big punchers and Dubois steam rolled him like he thought he would. Dubois isn’t all that great himself he’s got a gaping wide defence and is very hittable once he faces someone that can handle his pressure and hit back he’ll fold or get knocked out. Usyk to his credit has beaten everyone so it just makes it difficult for me to saying anything negative but nobody has really exploited his weaknesses, he does not deal well with pressure he practically doesn’t even punch on the back foot. For whatever reason everyone decided to box him rather than jump on him, haye for me is a better fighter than Usyk he hits harder, he’s faster, he’s more elusive but Usyk has better output and better feet. Hrgovic in my opinion would replicate the wlad performance but better. I’ve seen them both spar too and yeah it was quite clear what would happen.
@Fooknose88
@Fooknose88 Ай бұрын
Klitchko schooled him though, I was well backing haye in that fight but he was so disappointing. Did go out on his shield at all, he should have just gone for it. But didn’t want to get ko d and played it safe. After watching video I reckon Ruiz not sure? Parker w Povetkin l DDD w Uysk w Wilder w Hrgovic w Zhang w Aj L but could get lucky Fury w
@-MacCloud-
@-MacCloud- Ай бұрын
Usyk would beat Haye, but the others would struggle with Hayes speed and as a result he'd be in the mixer with the top heavyweights.
@kingrobthegreat7446
@kingrobthegreat7446 Ай бұрын
DO you think Fury recently threw the fight against Usyk??
@jamestodd1376
@jamestodd1376 Ай бұрын
I have to agree with you opinion but I’ll make the fury a 50/50
@DirtyJamesUK
@DirtyJamesUK Ай бұрын
I think Haye would have been top 10, not top 5. I dont think Haye would have beaten Parker, Dubois, Joshua, Fury, maybe even Wilder. He might have stood a spectacular outside chance against Usyk, because of his sniper style, like Wilder. Yeah, I reckon he'd be lucky to be top 10 tbh.
@LeeLee-gx9uv
@LeeLee-gx9uv Ай бұрын
What about vlad or vitali in this era both better than Haye one of em proved it they would been up there as well likes prime Joshua went life and death with old vlad fury had to take him to to points couldn’t get him out there reckon prime vlad would be number 1 still or number 2 we never saw him fight usyk but prime for prime he beats Joshua and fury it’s only coz he’s old they beat him
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