Why did Concord fail so spectacularly? Their characters suck.

[@BROLY_32]

"Devs are colorblind" When you said that, everything suddenly made sense. That has to be it.

[@roarbertbearatheon8565]

They were apparently going for “washed out old low budget sci-fi” which is such a terrible aesthetic no one in the history of mankind has ever liked except the greasiest 60 year old nerds. I doubt anyone alive and wanting to play a hero shooter has ever even seen the original lost in space. It’d be a bold aesthetic choice for an indie game but for a 100 mil sony game it’s psychotic

[@vvitch-mist20]

@@roarbertbearatheon8565 Low budget sci-fi only works when the passion for the project shines through. This wasn't made with any love, it's just a copycat shill of a game talented people were forced to make.

[@dex4740]

Or perhaps someone used the randomise button in a character creator?

[@furudehanyuu4081]

Money laundering would also make sense

[@fbi_cheeznutz4097]

11:40 My 1 dollar fridge 12:53 Walmart genderbent Eggman aka Eggmaam 15:38 Trashbuster 16:48 DEI's wetdream hero 18:33 Startrek reject 19:57 Space marine from Temu 24:13 The nail salon manager 24:48 That character when you press "random" in a character creation 26:26 Just some dude with a hat 27:36 (from star wars) C-3PO's adopted daughter 28:00 (from mortal kombat) D'vorah's colleague 28:59 (from guardians of the galaxy) Yondu's lost rejected brother 30:37 Doomgal 32:07 Decent character 33:38 White guy with a gun 35:10 Community service woman

[@joelhodoborgas]

🤣

[@baraka629]

24:48 Goblin Ramona Flowers

[@declancampbell1277]

i dont think anyone is surprised concord failed, but im surprised at just how BAD it failed. Gollum had a higher peak than this game.

[@Shinshinvariety]

I think people are growing increasingly wary of buying in on a multiplayer shooter Can toss your money real quick

[@declancampbell1277]

@@Shinshinvariety 100% agreed, live service games in general have been repeatedly criticised over the years. Combine that with increasingly predatory business practices and crappy devs, and i think a lot of people are just tired. There's also the fact that this game doesnt really do anything new as many people have mentioned. The amount of people interested in this kind of game is finite, and you're not going to drag players away from games like overwatch or Destiny when they've spent hundreds of hours and dollars on them. Beyond the many flaws the game actually has, it basically boils down to "too little too late". The atrocious dev responses to the game failing certainly dont help.

[@chost-059]

who the fuck actually see concord and be like "oh yes this is a fresh and unique game concept ive never seen before, ive gotta try it" instead of writing it off as just another one of these stylised cartoony overwatch artstyle heroshooter copycat wannabe Esports 5v5 competetive slop dog games that will die in 3 months tops filled with 20$ charachter skins(recolors)

[@nicklasveva]

It's kinda crazy how iconic overwatch characters are. Very unique personalities and all look COMPLETELY different. These characters do not look appealing or unique at all. When you see an overwatch character you think to yourself "woah what does this one do?" meanwhile seeing concord's characters you're like "uhh... what is this one even supposed to be?"

[@colossaldonut5190]

Don't forget that Overwatch made most of their characters fuckable. This game kind of forgot about that part.

[@nicklasveva]

@@colossaldonut5190 true. Maybe that's why I remember them? Roadhog and Reinhardt looking extra daddy today...

[@czarkusa2018]

@@colossaldonut5190 Aye, that's the only real difference between Team Fortress 2's characters (except for Spy) and Overwatch, even carried over the international team theme

[@unrighteous8745]

What's really funny to me is that by trying to be really diverse, they made a cast of characters that all look exactly the same. A different race does not equal a different character if they all wear similar clothes and do similar things.

[@nicklasveva]

@@unrighteous8745 I think they tried to make all the characters unique, of course. But nothing really "pops". It all looks so bland. You need extremely unique looking characters in competitive games where you absolutely need to know who you're fighting to gauge your power against them. They were probably going to make skins for these characters too, so I bet it was going to get way worse in character recognition.

[@marcusliviussalinator5529]

think how many hot goth Dark Elves GF dating sim games you can make with 100 million dollars. Let that sink in

[@Shinshinvariety]

Gonna just start playing the steam porn games and rating them, that's the future of this channel.

[@chost-059]

@@marcusliviussalinator5529 sink has been let in

[@arthurhuynh1913]

@@Shinshinvariety Hashinshin ! Cloud Meadow when ?

[@TheVirtuosoe]

@@Shinshinvarietyhuniepop is actually fun

[@solitudesf8111]

this game beats apex in making the most unappealing roster. and if apex is just generally tasteless, concord's looks like developers were afraid of making a character attractive.

[@solitudesf8111]

unrelated, but rogue company has great roster, i wish it wasnt dead.

[@Jonkin715]

Great point.

[@ARStudios2000]

Oh? I haven't heard anyone talk about Apex Legends roster, what's the issue with them?

[@mop-kun2381]

The problem is that these character dont have any concept or any power fantasy behind them Overwatch have cyborg ninjas, robot monks, smurfette sniper, time traveler, futuristic cowboys, Australians Concord have a bunch of "diverse" people in colorful clothings... and it's not like being "diverse" is bad, it's just that being "diverse" isnt ENOUGH. Take the big tank minigun big bertha lady for example, her whole idea seem to be revolve about being a tank, Then why not dial that up to 11 and make her an absolute walking fortress ? make her armor metalic, with hard edges and cybernetics looking parts, give her an intimidating helmet/headpiece instead of showing her face beigging the enemy to shoot at. Seriously if a character have wearing a cool armored mechsuit, people will like it, regardless of if it's a woman a man or a chihuahua piloting it. but why WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME TEAL

[@dragongamerx12]

one character looks like she found an old mac computer and decided to make a helmet out of it

[@Swifvente]

"Tell me anything memoriable about this character" It's a fridge...

[@Xrycee]

I asked my mom to pick a character she would play from Concord she said she didn’t like ANY of them… but if she HAD to pick one she would play the lizard guy 😂

[@vogue43]

The war on meritocracy comes home to roost.

[@BloodMelty]

At 18:35 I immediately had "Deande" from Battleborn in mind. She's heavily influenced by geishas. Especially with her "Saboteur" skin. Like, it shows that you can make Asian-themed characters without just giving them monolid eyes, lmao. I guess concord devs think that an asian character has to be clearly asian since it would be "cultural appropriation" otherwise? Who knows nowadays...

[@wemej4545]

The worst part is that fucking John Smith with an assault rifle is somehow one of the better looking characters

[@CrossXaberS]

My most concise decription for characters in this game is: "kindergarden cosplay using cheap plastic from Wish"

[@almightyarsenal3366]

I’m gonna pretend you didn’t talk smack on my Big Bertha queens Zarya and Illaoi.

[@DarkStar3339]

20:25 to 20:44 There’s nothing wrong with muscular female characters. I like Ilaoi from LoL and Zarya from OW. Just cause they aren’t the most popular doesn’t mean they don’t deserve to exist. But yeah Concords characters and their designs suck.

[@VampireNoblesse]

to be fair, some of Love, Death Robots episodes were heavily inspired by video games (& anime).., no suprise they are now directly using video games for their episodes..

[@VictimPoliticized]

This was the natural consequence of all their ideas converging. Expect more of this.

[@rigasd6355]

Not gonna lie, i was a little disappointed when i realised this was not about Concorde, the supersonic plane.

[@fbi_cheeznutz4097]

It's concordin' time

[@panzergott5622]

Along the same dialogue with designs being terrible look at one and ask yourself "what is this persons ROLE in the game?". Outside the "anchors" or tanks since they're huge. Would you assume the multicolored super vibrant black lady is actually a stealth assassin? Of course not. Theres no coherency in design to gameplay. They just made garbage that I could only assume was for diversity points and nothing else. Like the Yellow Trash Can robot. His whole schtick is vaccum power blocking and sucking up projectiles. Why not give him a giant Exhaust port on his chest to maybe signify this in ANY way or something similar. Could one guess that the plus sized blueberry is actually a support? I sure as hell couldnt without playing the Beta.

[@Shinshinvariety]

Visual role clarity is important

[@ARStudios2000]

100% on this. And then you have shit like Haymar who despite the game being blatantly tech and scifi, is a straight up wizard. Like, huh?

[@EbonMaster]

31:20 Fun mental exercise: Okay look at this character. Put the fact that we're talking about Concord out of your mind and look at it. Imagine its actually an NPC in a FPS and the FPS has variations on this design for some of its enemies. Could you or could you not see discussions about bland enemy design sparking from this enemy type and others like it? How did these designs get approved? I just dont get it.

[@novarat4089]

12:57 this character design made me laugh so fucking hard when I first saw it, it's the worst thing I've ever seen. And I kind appreciate it for that

[@coolbord9]

Star Lord after he joins the Ginyu Force

[@dizzyheads]

The moment Gabe dies is the moment steam and valve gets overrun

[@IRaoulDuke]

@dizzyheads I hope he has someone in mind to hand it off to, MS absolutely needs to rejected from ever owning it.

[@blampfno]

Concord: 10 years too late, genuinely unappealing character design, and 40 dollars above its rational price point.

[@st8113]

Bring back lawbreakers kthx I think the funny part is them trying to market to gamers with self respect by doing the no mtx schtick Except they seemed to be under the impression that there are hero shooter players with self respect

[@VioletElite4]

On the same day Concord came out I ended up getting a beta invite for Valve's new game Deadlock, you can freely discuss that game now that it's gone from "secret mode" but I'm even more interested in that game than Concord

[@rtbear674]

They researched the character design from walmart. I think this might even be better premise. You pick up weapons like ketchup bottles, soy sauce, slingshot with pistachio in a supermarket arena. You combined the mechanic with dustborn. Choose your own weakness. Double damage by nuts, by words, emotional damage.

[@Nersius]

Really disappointed in Concord. Watched the 'plan' trailer where it looked like they tried and failed the same mission dozens of times. Thought it was going to be a comedic Vermintide type game with lots of ways for the missions to go awry.

[@Kaesemesser0815]

It was made for the modern audience. They got the entire modern audience.

[@runadumb]

"men play men" not in a hero shooter. People play whatever character fits their play style.

[@Shinshinvariety]

I think you overestimate the amount of people who play meta, and underestimate the amount of people who play characters they think are cool Also you cut off the last bit of my sentence which was odd

[@runadumb]

@@Shinshinvariety playing a character that fits your playstyle isn't playing meta. It could literally be he opposite of playing meta. I didn't give the full quote because I was too lazy to type it out. It also doesn't change anything. I get your point, in an RPG men will probably play men. However in a hero shooter the only thing that matters is how the character plays. It's literally everything. So it means nothing in this context. Design gets people through the door. Which concord massively failed at.

[@quintinantonio7]

I love the character breakdown you did here. I’m not an artist but I was wondering the same thing about the charter design like the colors, outfits , etc don’t make sense.

[@JamesNintendoTurd]

2:40 You are confusing Spelunky with Spelunker. Spelunker is an old game for 8-bit home computers that, among other things, received an NES and an arcade port. Spelunky is a rogue-like indie platformer, and the original freeware version was visually inspired by Spelunker, but in terms of mechanics, they are completely different games.

[@Shinshinvariety]

Holy shit you’re right

[@colossaldonut5190]

Still kind of confusing, but in terms of Indie reps I can see how this got there.

[@figloalds]

About "Men generally prefer to play men", that's really not true, men are very divided between playing male and female characters; I for one always gravitate towards female characters If you look at games like Honkai Impact 3rd, the audience of that game is mostly men and they threatened the devs for entertaining the idea of adding playable male characters to the game The "I play female characters because small hitbox" and "I play female characters because the character I play is the one I see the entire time, and I prefer to look at women" narratives are extremely prevalent in gaming. LIkewise, muscular attractive male characters do entice gay men and straight women, it's already tested to exhaustion in games like League, Overwatch, Genshin Impact, Valorant; Everyone and their moms want to be attracted to the characters in a game, if you make character-based game with a roster full of unattractive characters your game is worthless

[@ZZWWYZ]

male want to play as their dream asian (preferably Japanese) wife

[@Galebreth]

I read someone commented, "Oh look it's Underwatch."

[@brutussmithers6341]

Only the devs playing it🤣

[@vvitch-mist20]

I wish I could get a 100 million dollars. Lord knows I wouldn't blow it on a game no one likes. I'm so tired of big AAA titles flopping harder than a fish on a deck in July.

[@richardpell]

17:22 wait that's a man?

[@regrett1]

if the gameplay were faster and the characters didn't look so dam disgusting, the game would be decent wasted potential

[@justDeniso7]

This feels like Seraphine in league. They made the show for prime and then said "wait a minute... We might have a game here"

[@Elfhelm]

@@justDeniso7 ???? What

[@stanley13579]

Took me a good 40 seconds to realize that out-house shaped robot wasn't the out-house shaped black woman.

[@AndroidA258]

like, no characters look remotely cool

[@かんちょう-q9p]

25:52 that is just straight up a goblin

[@baraka629]

Even the robots are obese in this trainwreck of a game.

[@dragongamerx12]

nothing says cool like an orange safety vest

[@numberonedad]

it's pronounced arketype not archetype. stomach, chaos, etc are all derived from greek.

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

Uh huh.

[@SwanRonsonDonnyJepp]

30:25.......Dude wearing an eccentric life jacket 😂

[@mojojojo1529]

131 playing right now. That's basically the devs and their friends.

[@Fireopal94]

Thanks for pointing out that women don't wanna play these characters either. I may be different in that most of my favorite games don't have playable female characters at all. When they do I'm more into the Blood Rayne, Samus, Storm, etc. types. Beautiful badasses. Had fun watching this video!

[@furudehanyuu4081]

Here's an idea for Sony: Take the core Concord gameplay mechanics, get rid of the awful characters, and make a brand new game with all the PlayStation universe characters in it. Ratchet and Sora fighting Kratos and Solid Snake in a hero shooter would be a million times more fun than whatever the fuck this was. And can also cost way less than Concord.

[@vox70]

apparently 400 million dollar failure now

[@Shinshinvariety]

yeesh

[@solidsnek1776]

"Did someone who's colorblind make this game?" 🤣

[@baraka629]

They got that Noctua Fan color palette going. Puke beige with crap brown.

[@richardpell]

33:46 man this is comically awful

[@Weightsss]

Bringing a 40$ paywall to an over saturated genre that doesn’t even look as close to polished as other games and expecting people to take a chance and spend 40$ on it is what killed them.

[@meis]

Some good game journalists and beta testers had warned the dev about it but the dev dismissed it as 'white noise'.

[@meis]

Oh btw, OW's Sombra is a good example of good design without the woke bs.

[@yijiejun1524]

Dunno these characters look like they were created by an AI-made randomizer , it's not possible that it was humans who designed these characters and said "this looks good". BTW 36:25 definitely the worst part of the problem, these people love any reason to show all their racism and frustration with their lives. .

[@spud69g]

Everybody seems surprised at the costs of maiing these games... When you have one of the big three shoveling investor cash your way, a few hundred million is pennies. One trillion is a million millions. Just ONE of those big three controls TEN trillion. Like a few hundred million matters...

[@hope3186]

Comment for the algorithm shinshin gods

[@luce9]

Why it failed They aim a modern audience that doesnt exist

[@joelhodoborgas]

No, all of the modern audience bought the game, all 700 of them. 🤣

[@kaylemain2006]

Spelunky was never an arcade game, that was Spelunker, which was a big hit back then, and got ported to some 8-bit systems and computers. The Spelunky game has no relationship to it other than being about... spelunking.

[@kennethbrown1210]

White guy with gun is actually Latin with gun

[@colossaldonut5190]

Oh cool the next Anthem is here

[@rebel4466]

I got a bit of a different opinion. I think the game largely failed because of pricing. It's a typical "buy our skins" kinda game. It's not a 40 dollar title. Also the user base for these games is low in general. The game would have to be exceptional for people to even consider spending 40 on it. The bland corporate characters won't cut it either. Pronouns and all that shit were likely just "let's modern audience it" My own little fantasy for concord is that they gave out 700 free codes to people.

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

That's still generous when Sony will have lay off thousands more to recoup losses.

[@Ciel_exe]

IS THAT THE SUPER TOP???!

[@dragongamerx12]

hey it's a dentist that is a big fan of alucard from hellsing

[@impc8265]

idk what they're expecting, appeal only to a small audience, then you get small sales numbers

[@FrancisYorkMorganFBI]

The worst thing is that even if we cut them some slack and say that on ps5 it's double or even three times the player count. Well it's still a huge flop.

[@Soren59]

Even if they had good characters, the price tag alone would have driven most prospective players away. Why pay $40 for another bland, uninspired Overwatch clone when there are cheaper and better alternatives? Not to mention how oversaturated the FPS genre is already. The awful character design is just the final nail in the coffin.

[@ARStudios2000]

Oh you forgot the second final nail You need a PSN account. You know, that bullshit that almost killed Helldivers 2? Sony clearly didn't learn a damn thing and decided to, once again, in an Einsteinian fashion, decided to exclude 70% of the planet from touching this game. Again.

[@vahallen9876]

I’d love to see your take on stuff like the upcoming Space Marine 2 or AstroBot But maybe they need to come out first

[@Shinshinvariety]

I'm not sure that giving my take before I've played them is a good idea. Space Marine 2 in particular looks volatile, since the studio behind it is super shaky on quality.

[@DIOBrando-ij2bp]

Spelunky wasn’t an arcade game. It was an Xbox Arcade game, at least the 2012 remake of the original PC game was. But the original game isn’t that old, came out in 2008; came out at the end of 2008 too, so the game is still only 15 years old at the moment as opposed to having been out for over 34 years. Maybe your dad was thinking of the arcade version of Pitfall 2, which came out in ‘85.

[@AbelMusa]

Go look at "SMT V trailer if it was Forspoken" That's what these devs do. They take any idea and magically make it lame as hell with their trash taste

[@jessee4246]

lmao, i didnt even know that this game released, Tbh i forgot about it after the terrible trailer i saw

[@Shinshinvariety]

That's what weirded me out the most. After 8 years they came up with the worst goddamn characters you've ever, but nobody seemed to have the balls to tell them? It was in every comment!

[@Homiloko2]

When you said "fat polynisian big man" I was like wait, doesn't Apex Legends already have that? And they even did it slightly better. lmao

[@PapersNotIncluded]

Do you want an invite code to deadlock?

[@visoroverwatch3247]

Overwatch has nice characters and even that didn't stop me from NOT playing it.

[@atwitchyferret]

The best way to sell skins is to make the default so ugly and clashing you never want to look at it.

[@johnnybedir]

When are we gonna get another aatrox gameplay?

[@AteszmadmanHDPC]

Idk, even if the game had awesome characters I wouldn't buy it, 40 euro for a hero shooter in 2024? I'm good lmao

[@tamas9554]

If the only reason for Concord's failure was that it genuenly came out at the wrong time, it would still have at least a couple thousand people playing it. Like, if it was actually great the all time peak wouldn't be

[@qbenedetti]

Please do a follow up rant if/when the prime episode is horrid

[@rudyalfonsus686]

if this is the diversity they want, then black myth: wukong did this kind of diversity 1000x better. i mean, just look at all the bosses

[@fudwgemar]

I can invite you to play deadlock if you want, they have also lifted the NDA so people can talk and stream about the game.

[@theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329]

I didn't even know about this game, and it's dead already. Devs really should take a second to remind themselves of the meaning of hubris. Games become iconic organically, and often for very different reasons. The games industries history is littered with overhyped failures. I was just watching a video on one such failed uber game from my youth, The Great Space Race on the Spectrum. It even came out round the same time as the much more beloved OG Elite. Which just ripped away any remaining tatters of hype/cred. I think the budget was £250.000 back in the 80s, crazy money for a video game at the time. Yes, I still have my copy somewhere gathering dust as a reminder not to listen to hype, and give it a bit before you buy.

[@johnnymonsterrrr]

Funniest thing now is people say stuff like “concord failed because its woke” like there isnt plenty of “woke” successful games now, instead of realizing that the game has sluggish gameplay, brings nothing new and has 40$ price for some reason.

[@ttrev007]

it does not matter that the characters are diverse. the problem is that the character designs suck. they would be just as bad if they were all white and perhaps even worse knowing that the designer has made racist remarks in the past, so the designs would likely reflect that.

[@Timeforspas12]

Dude, no lie. 40 bucks on it is expensive as fuck. Like, I played it on a borrowed account from a journo I know... It felt expensive just knowing 600 people or more bought this. My god, the gameplay feels like someone never played an fps game in their lives. The lobbies are unbalanced (go figure, there isn't enough people to fill up the skill brackets duh). The bloddy voicelines are so obnoxious I'd rather play it muted. SERIOUSLY, who greenlit this should be fired, humiliated in front of the company and blacklisted from ever working on AAA games. I mean it.

[@VergiliosSpatulas]

Went woke Went broke

[@BlobBlobkins]

true

[@kojiro133]

Something tells me you really miss doing skin reviews. It's a shame these character designs are so. . .not great. Or, a boon I suppose, since we get to hear you rip on them. You should do this more often.

[@Aaron_Esh]

33:58 he's the most racist character in 2024

[@theredwedge9446]

Game should have been free

[@ajkulac9895]

Game shouldn't have been

[@zurcarak]

Bob from T7 was cool 18:00

[@Gogo32monkey]

Turns out when you make a hero shooter, you have to make the heroes actually likeable. Nobody could have figured that out, it's not the studios fault! /s

[@roarbertbearatheon8565]

I always appreciated how in league I didn’t know Kayle or Riven were supposed to be girls for years I suggest a video on civ 7

[@Shinshinvariety]

I haven’t played or looked in to civ 7 tbh

[@xpr3sss1]

at first i thought "hey this game seems fun", then i saw the characters and thought "ok most of them are bad but i've seem worse. hope the gameplay compensates for it" and then i heard people saying you needed a whole mag to kill somebody and i still thought "just buff the damage i guess" then i saw the rest of it... yep. just... sad at this point. i'm not even mentioning in the whole "woke shit", i simply don't care as long the game is good. it isn't good.

[@proxyjan]

It's not about the characters. One of the KZbinrs said it better, it's a copy paste game from overwatch, adds nothing to it and, more importantly, is 9 years late to the trend and costs 40 euro? people are not that stupid. Blizzard with all its big and mightiness released overwatch 20 euros when it was something completely new and refreshing and truly fun. And to top it all, they released it around wukong and some other good games' releases? What they were thinking. Characters, not being the main reason, didn't help the situation one bit and even exacerbated it

[@shitsujihitsuji1365]

why the hell is sony investing in this

[@MushahidBaig-zq6jx]

Bro, i disagree with "nobody like big bertha caharacter" part in LoL. Illaoi is dope AF, and not most popular, is pretty cool.

[@sadkat9162]

there's like 0.1% illaoi otps and she is only ever played when she's OP as fuck by others. so yeah no

[@Shinshinvariety]

Yeah it’s just not that popular. Women and men don’t like the character (as a large majority.) Worse yet they always seem to make a large amount of their personality about being “better” than men, which just further invalidates a lot of their audience. It’s just a character archetype thats very niche yet treated as needed. Most popular character in league for women? Lux. Who knew women liked the pretty long haired blonde girl. Then in Overwatch it’s mercy. In a large way men should actually just pay attention to what women want to play.