Why did God allow polygamy in the Bible?

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[@fbassaf]

Why would a man want more than one mother-in-law?

[@MrTheGuitarNerd]

Masochism?

[@rachelczumaya2806]

More practice exercising charity..? 😂😂😂

[@dawudgt]

Mixing all of them to have a good one

[@japprivera3129]

that is a good one LOL!!!

[@kuzivaj.z]

😂😂

[@EnTaroTassadar116]

Man, that clear-concise-refreshing Thank Lord for colaboring w/Southern Seminary in adding understanding to me 🙇🏾‍♂️

[@thebryanhigh]

There is nothing concise about his non answer

[@Peter-tg9zv]

You have to pity “pastors” and “scholars” who hold doctrines of men above God’s commandments.

[@francescadarien-hydellbma8064]

Thank you for that illuminating short explanation of why polygamy was tolerated by Yahweh but not promoted by Yahweh the true God. You are spot on when you refer to men of faith as in the Old Testament - but they were not necessarily men of morality - and that distinction is rarely spoken about openly. Thank you for illuminating perspective. FDH LLB MA

[@wengercleopatra2150]

Exactly. God expects us to fill in the blanks. He usef cautionary tales and expects us to fill in the gaps. As someone who just avoided a terrible love triangle, pick one person of thr opposite sex and stick with them.

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

The gentleman in this video is very conniving with his words, he says the NT never upholds David as an example of morality.. which is misleading because the Bible itself actually does uphold David as an example of morality .. “because David did what was right in the eyes of the Lord and did not turn aside from anything that he commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite.” ‭‭1 Kings‬ ‭15:5‬ ‭ 1 Kings 11:6 and 2 Chronicles 34:2 prove the same. But because these verses are in the OT and not the NT, the gentleman dismisses them and only focuses on NT verses on examples of morality. With all due respect to his knowledge, I think this was very very misleading of him.

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

@Mile Hoho So God didn’t really want to promote polygamy, God was just kinda forced into it by the situation. That’s your theology??

[@tantig5923]

Tolerated not promoted ❤️

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

@@tantig5923 So when Deborah (a woman no less) sings of the blessings of victory to include “two wombs for every man.. and the land had rest for forty years” (judges 5:30) you see that as a begrudging toleration? When the Elders praise Rachel and Leah as models “who TOGETHER” raised Jacobs household.. that’s mere toleration? (Ruth 4). Western Christian’s aren’t even reading their own bibles.

[@jumpsshot51]

Polgamy is not unlawful but it's not mandatory.

[@CrniStevan]

Nowhere in the Bible does God condemns polygamy, not even remotely. It's even funny how the writer comments that God was not pleased with what David did with the husband of Bathsheba. Sounds like God got angry with David but couldn't do anything. You can only twist and turn the text, like someone already mentioned, to try and make it sound like it is prohibited but that is weak non-valid argument.

[@samantharios6900]

if im correct God did do something.The son Bathsheba bore to David died and caused both David and Bathsheba heartache .seems to me like he was really displeased with David.And u men wanna make such a big fuss about having many wives when we are all suppose to try our best to be like Jesus aren't we.Did u see Jesus with a wife at all let alone many wives?Also jesus says if u are able to be solibent and single to do so but if u know u are gonna give in to your lusts get married.so do u honestly believe u are being like Jesus or pleasing god by having more than one wife.why do u think God has allowed our nation to have such a strict rule about marriage and managomy.God controls law and looks like God does not want polygomy to be the law of the land.So get u one wife and focus on the Lord and love her and treat her right.And stop tryna fight to satisfy your sexual desires tryna have all these wives,just a big distraction from God and very hurtful yo your wife.Men are so selfish its just ridiculous most do have hardned hearts n act like dogs very sad.

[@CrniStevan]

@@samantharios6900 this is too many presuppositions. I have one wife and I don't want more wife's. But let me reply to the first part of your comment. God struck the innocent child. Would you do the same if you were God? If God didn't like what David did - why did he let that relationship go on and incarnate himself through exactly that bloodline?

[@timus4993]

For some reason I think their was no love 😔 it was just lust,good luck to people if they can love more than one person and have multiple lovers,I can't even imagine me in such position, I'd be so so hurt💔

[@njrom2975]

Me too

[@danieldeluca4936]

Multiple lovers, is not what God allows, for this would allow women to have more than one husband, but as we see in Romans 7:1-3, this is adultery! You cannot imagine having a wonderful husband who loves you and cherishes you, and also loves his other wife. This is because you assume that if he loves another woman, somehow he no longer loves you. That is a faulty assumption and resulted in the unnecessary breakup of several marriages.

[@lesliewinchester8225]

@@danieldeluca4936 back to total derangement. God intended one man and one wife United in one flesh Genesis 2:24. You can’t read the first two chapters of the Bible and accept God concept of marriage as he intended your deranged.

[@danieldeluca4936]

@@lesliewinchester8225 God only intended one wife for SOME men, while for others, he intended no wife whatsoever, and still others, he intended them to have MORE than one wife. There is nothing in Gen 2:24 that states how many wives a man cna have. It only states that when he marries his first wife, he must leave his parents and be united with his wife. Jesus used this to explain that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Obviously, the man who has left his parents and become united to his wife, cannot leave his parents when he marries his second wife, whether his first wife is still living or not! So now you think you can diagnose my state of mind, as if you were a psychologist who has had a session with me. You are unhinged. You cannot even spell "you're" properly.

[@lesliewinchester8225]

@@danieldeluca4936 Genesis 2:24one man one wife United in flesh Your denial of that meaning anything other than what it says is ridiculous. Show me the Bible quote that says God or Jesus insisted men deviate ever from Genesis. Jesus said to even think about someone other than you wife is adultery. He never said wives because you only get one according to three places in the Bible. If you can’t recognize sin from people in the Bible your brain dead. You can’t even acknowledge men have the one appendage to please only one woman. It is absolutely deranged that any man would think otherwise.

[@tovarusperkins3955]

Good word. Perfect indeed. Only the faithful understands this and I love it. It's truth and you can't do nothing against it but only for it.

[@linaawadallaiskander7594]

Read well please because he allows polygamy actually this video is not saying the truth. But when David took another man's wife God said " if you wanted another wife I would have given it to you". He didn't say you have enough wives u don't need any more. But I do agree God's plan was 1 wife. 23 Do you think that God changed this commandment about polygamy in the old testament which shows that God allowed polygamy :Exo 21:10 NHEB-YHWH If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights. Because he did with some commandments in the new testament. Here they are: Actually I believe that this was written in Chapter John, Jesus says he is changing some laws in the bible. And he mentioned because the people in the old testament were very evil he allowed them to do what they want and he says now it is different. One of the examples is God allowing divorce when a man gives certain amount of money to the woman who married her whether from fornication, rape, marriage ceremony. So, the God in the old Testament allowed divorce. Also, there were three ways that people got married in the old Testament. One was sex (becoming one flesh), second rape (google sex in marriage and divorce bible verses in the old testament), third was marriage ceremony. Anyone who committed any of them was considered married according to God's commandments in the old testament. In the new testament when God was speaking to the women (at the water) who was having sex with many men, God reveals that she is not married (highlight that God considered her not married it is not a word mentioned in the bible but the story concludes that) and she is sinning (fornication). (which is opposite from the old testament as I mentioned). So, As you see The Bible changed some of the commandment from the old testament to the new testament. Lastly, God himself says he came to finish (perfect) the testimony and fulfill the prophecies. (Perfecting his biblical book, changing some of his commandment as you see from what is mentioned above). There is nothing wrong with God changing his laws in Bible as he is fulfilling the law (which means making it perfect, and that means to perfect something you can change it. Which is what Jesus did). This is something most Christians miss.

[@40ozhemlock]

Fanboy

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

Sounds like you’ve made up and your mind and you don’t care what anyone else says or does, or even what the Bible says (because he never quoted it directly in this video).

[@gustavonikov]

You didn't answer the question. God indeed allowed man have many wives, not explicity, but, he blessed those same man that had two wives, blessed their sons, protected hagar. I'm not telling that he encourage more than one wife, i'm telling that he allowed, because he didnt punish or said anything to any man that had more than 1 wife, if was a sin that should be repented, he didnt condemn anybody because of this.

[@davidlegkodukh6969]

Yes, but he also explicitly said that these men that has more wives had them out of self importance and to have more power. While God wasn't against the idea in the old testament, it gave more power to Satan as he could exploit the man even more.

[@thelifeofcamila]

He absolutely answered the question. Watch it again and you'll see.

[@marcusbrown592]

One wife is a Roman concept that they inject into the Judaic religion we now call Christianity

[@q.t.gamingfamily]

He blesses the sinner. He doesn't want any of us to perish which is why he repeatedly renewed the covenant.

[@davidlegkodukh6969]

@SICARII PHILADELPHIA It's in the old testament? You can read of Solomon and his wives, they were idol worshippers and he had many sons of which were sinners and tried to kill him. Read the book of Solomon, Don't embarrass yourself.🤦

[@hienienguyen6766]

Thank you for your words man! This was needed

[@imsamiurrahman]

Exodus 21:10, a man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits to how many he can marry. According to Bible, a Christian man can marry an infinite amount of women without any limits whereas according to the Holy Qur'an, a Muslim man can marry only 4 which is limited.

[@peaceblessings4512]

That’s true

[@shawngregory1312]

Nope. Illogical God also commanded no adultery Upon pain of death. Adulterated was not to be found Yet polygamy was somehow a thing God couldn’t keep from happening like adultery? Bestiality ? . Makes no sense He can’t keep them from violating certain things only? Makes no sense

[@BenHaMiqra]

Duet 21:15.

[@fivebooks8498]

Coy Walker Deuteronomy 21:15 doesn’t say a man can’t have two wives. It actually mentions specifically having two wives yet does not say it’s wrong. It just tells us how to set up an inheritance with children from two wives. It seems to be just understood that it’s acceptable in this context.

[@BenHaMiqra]

@@fivebooks8498 that reason, is exactly why I posted it. The speaker forgot to mention that law of Torah completely.

[@jonathantraylor297]

Because it is no sin for a Man to have multiple wives. That is wishful thinking of modern day christians.

[@headlinenewsrant5134]

Exactly, Shawn.

[@Elvengem]

Polygamy marriages were better than divorce and replace,which is what Monogamy often encourages.

[@abzalfatiya8559]

This is unbelievable. How dare can you talk about Abraham like that ? God chose his prophets who were the best of people and example to follow…

[@bryanbridges2987]

I'm sorry to say this, but this video contains a factual error. Royal figures were NOT the only ones who had multiple wives. In the book of Samuel we read of Samuel's parents. His father had two wives, and was as far from sitting on the throne as you can get. Jacob and Esau were never royal figures, yet both practiced polygymy. It does seem to be a taboo by the time of Jesus, but it was not just restricted to kings.

[@uptalk144]

He didn't say just kings. He said, you also had to be financially capable of supporting multiple wives.

[@MegaDavyk]

This guy is full of it. Exodus 21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage (sexual intimacy), shall he not diminish. The only specific Prohibition in the New Testament is that a church leader should have only one wife, presumably so he will be able to make enough time for his duties to his flock. 1 Timothy 3:2 Therefore a Bishop must be above reproach, the "husband of one wife", sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

[@yoperau9823]

in 1 Timothy say this because otherwise your hands will be full and not having the time for the serving in the gathering of God.

[@pissanukatika3720]

Why Abraham had two wives? Why Jacob had four wives. David had several wives. Solomon had nearly 1000 wives. God allow man to have more than one. Prophet Muhammad had12 wives.

[@peaceblessings4512]

Yes that’s true, polygyny is lawful in both Quran and Bible

[@fragrancedeparadis1275]

What wisdom, glory to God! Thank God for this explanation

[@jaylarae295]

I’m glad I watched this because I was literally about to cry 😭 felt hopeless

[@robertbusek30]

The professor’s statement about only kings being able to afford multiple wives reminds how God thought that Israel even having kings was ultimately a bad idea. You’d think the people of Israel would have learned that from their experience under Saul.

[@nathanmorgan3647]

You realize the prophet Samuel was himself the product of polygamy, yes? Along with all 13 tribes of Israel.....

[@tochukwuifeanacho3843]

@@nathanmorgan3647 12 tribes of Israel

[@nathanmorgan3647]

@@tochukwuifeanacho3843 There are 13 tribes. Jacob had 12 sons, but Joseph gave two tribes. That is 13.

[@tochukwuifeanacho3843]

@@nathanmorgan3647 the two sons of Joseph are seen as one tribe the tribe of Joseph spilt Into Tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh

[@tochukwuifeanacho3843]

Even Jesus calls them the twelve tribes of Israel

[@rightfaith5435]

So, man of God disobeyed God and you are obeying ?? Stop lying against prophet. Where God says polygamy is forbidden?

[@princejoeking7092]

Not that I particularly want to marry multiple people, but there is quite a difference between “it can be difficult to live this way” and “it is a sin to live this way”. I have yet to see anyone thoroughly explain how it is a sin.

[@garyjohnson8026]

If you read 2 Samuel 12:7-8 (the end of Nathan's parable) you will read, "And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom ..." God gave David his wives; God did! God makes the rules and commands as He will. This man, although he has a PhD, does not understand that when God commands, we obey or face the consequences. Why did God allow polygamy? I have yet to find where He explains Himself on this issue. But if God allowed it - it is OK.

[@torah6077]

There's way more women than men. Back then, and even today. So, there is a reason polygyny is not outlawed by Yah. Don't forget that the Greeks created laws to ban polygyny laws in marriage institutions, and made it monogamy only based upon Plato opinion on the Greek creation sorry.

[@patmelton43]

I don't care how many women are in the world. I am a woman and I am a widow. There is NO WAY I would ever hook up with a polygamist. It is evil.

[@torah6077]

@@patmelton43 Its polygyny not polygamy. I don't know you're a believer or not, but calling polygyny evil, what the Most High ordained, and regulated is blasphemy. It's only evil when a woman has multiple husbands. Which is adultery.

[@patmelton43]

@@torah6077 It is polygamy and God did NOT ordain it. Read what Jesus said about marriage. You cannot justify your adultery no matter how hard you try.

[@patmelton43]

@@torah6077 OMG, but you are dumb!

[@torah6077]

@@patmelton43 What is the bible definition of adultery? Not you're opinion, or emotions. Not isogesis the text, but exegesis the text.

[@okogieojieko8091]

Remember some men with one wife also sin against God in one way and the other. One wife never guarantees heaven.

[@jasontrotter8600]

When a man asks himself questions,.. with the mindset of trying to force the Holy scriptures to support his own conclusions,... He manages to turn men's minds away from considering another way of looking at the contents of scripture. But when a man is truthful within his own heart, and he has a deep sincere desire to LEARN about the ways of the most High,... And he sticks to what is actually ((WRITTEN)) in the bible, concerning the matter of Polygamy; then he will ,.... (Because he now can),... Speak on God's behalf.

[@kap849]

Whenever I see "why did God allow....." I ask myself, "why does God allow me to continue living after sinning so much! By all means God should have struck me with lighting a long time ago." I think when we truly understand that we are all sinners, we learn to look at "why did God allow evil to continue" differently. He allows us to continue living even after rejecting Him over and over again.

[@clbadvincula7256]

I think this question falls under: Why God allows evil? Or Why God created the world/man?

[@achilles6689]

This is a fallen world....

[@AquaCarb]

When you give humans a choice between good and evil, you then have to allow good as well as evil - because he himself created both! If you are good all the time then God can't punish us and have no opportunities to tell parables of why humans are dumb.

[@Jy-xq2ew]

This is a weak argument

[@elijahmery5868]

I disagree. Out of curiosity, I’d like to know, what gave you the audacity to make this statement?

[@Jy-xq2ew]

@@elijahmery5868 you feel this was a great argument? Or point of view?... " Men of faith, but not men of morality?... Really??. Seriously.. that works for you?.... God chose men of low or no morality?...

[@Foxygrandpa2131]

This is off topic but can we give some appreciation to this man's fantastic beard?

[@mattchalup]

It's obviously fake. Made out of velvet

[@BenHaMiqra]

Lev 19:27

[@AndrewVasel]

right?! that was my very first thought

[@myroom1913]

I didn’t even notice anything different with the beard, was far too busy listening to what he’s saying.

[@charleshendrick7266]

This I also observed. Nice well maintained beard indeed. Im not so impressed with his theology however.

[@lalithdealwis4610]

Why do people say, "Why did GOD 'allow' it?" when MAN does strange things? Why do people blame God for their misdeeds? God allowed man freedom of choice. He gave them the ability to know right from wrong and to choose either one knowing that there would be consequences depending on what they choose. It is as simple as that.

[@jdwest34]

When did god “allow” freedom of choice? Humans took freedom when god wouldn’t allow it. The people you are referring to would rather be ignorant and still in the “garden”.

[@UltimatePiccolo]

Because Moses knows more than the guy making this video. If it was a sin, he wouldn't have done it. It's very simple.

[@bibin1712]

@@jdwest34 that’s what he said, there going to be consequences for what you choose to do.

[@thomasstevens9551]

@@jdwest34 that is actually a good philosophic conundrum you present. Can light exist without darkness? Is it possible for good to exist without evil? Was SOMEONE predestined to choose evil to prove that freedom of choice and good and evil exist? Perhaps this is why God had a plan of Salvation even before he laid the foundation of existence and creation.

[@huostonedliger3558]

@@thomasstevens9551 when God is all powerful and all loving how can we not simply have good /goodness why create chaos when we're all his children ,can't we live in peace???

[@ruthertvph]

I can understand why Solomon said "everything is meaningless.." :)

[@davidjsouth231]

Lol

[@hoshi8741]

Bro had become bored with his wisdom

[@heftymagic4814]

@@hoshi8741 and God apparently lol

[@letstalkbiblewithshun.s]

Hundreds of wives and concubines later he gets that revelation. Lol🤣😂😅

[@greatlyblessed7]

Perspective not Biblical truth for all

[@onzkicg]

Nice lighting dude.. your director of photography should have a bonus this year :) Nice topic too

[@johnseb5856]

In my opinion when people say why did god 'allow' polygamy, theyre really asking: "why isnt polygamy a sin?"

[@kayla_battle]

It technically is. Marriage is one man and one women. If you have more than one wife or husband. U r not loyal to that ONE PERSON. Which is adultery...which is a sin

[@revellblackwell]

Kayla Battle What scripture did you get your definition of adultery from?

[@johnseb5856]

@@kayla_battle that is not true. Even for sake of argument i can agree with you but still ask "why is it technical and not actual"? God was not technical when he gave commandments

[@campion04]

You need to be more clear. What you mean to ask is, why isn’t 1 man, multiple wives a sin? Because it is a sin with 1 woman and multiple men. First. How you know it’s not a sin. 1 Timothy. Where it describes the expectations of pope and deacon. These are the men who must have no more than a single wife. If It was was a sin, That would be obvious. He wouldn’t have needed to say “he can’t be a murderer”. He went out of his way to say that because, for others, it wasn’t a sin. The why? Well. One can only guess God’s reasons, but I’ve found God to always have good reasons for what he says/demands. If I were to guess, with limited effort, I can already think of situations when polygamy might not only be allowed, it might be necessary. Say when half the men of child birthing age, if you can call it that, are dead from war.

[@lynngatrell7965]

Polygamy isn't sin. If it were, God would never have called prophets who were polygamists and allowed their priesthood authority to continue. This is how I look at it: God created us with the ability to procreate. Is the act of sex wrong in itself? Of course not. It's the boundaries that God has set for it. As long as it is within the bonds of marriage, that's acceptable. Once outside of it, it is no longer acceptable, and it's in violation of God's laws. God gave the law and institution of marriage, and he sets the rules and boundaries. If it were ever wrong in his eyes for a man to marry more than one woman, he would have made it to clear that it was immoral to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the men and prophets through the ages who did so.

[@piijay14]

"Hell and Destruction are never full..therefore the eyes of man are never satisfied."-Proverbs 27:20

[@blackpearlteachings2393]

Who wrote the Proverbs ?

[@PauldeBruin]

Why does God say to David (and I'm paraphrasing) "if you had asked me for more wives I would have given them to you"?

[@halleluyahtorahdefenders8469]

And no response, cause they know God is fine with polygyny

[@DavidSuperDaveMartin70]

@@halleluyahtorahdefenders8469 He didnt say he would have given him more wives simultaneously

[@Terrestrial]

Excellent point. Notice how that verse was left out? The reason that David had simultaneous wives at all is because G-d gave him so many, according to the verses. Then He told David He would have given him yet more. This speaker's opinions and personal preferences are one thing, but ignoring the verses in order to support them is disingenuous.

[@marianskodowski8337]

You're right. And it is not in Old Testament only. In Matthew 25 we can read the Parable of the Ten Virgins. And that describes the multiple marriage. In Jewish Torah there are rules concerning levirate marriage which often leads to polygyny. The truth is that the monogamy does not come from Jerusalem or Israel, but from Rome and Grece. The monogamy of the Roman Empire was the cause of two explanatory notes in the writings of Josephus describing how the polygamous marriages of Herod the Great were permitted under Jewish custom. Apostle Paul didn't treat women and man the same concerning the marriage, he wrote in Romans 7 "1 Or do you not know, brothers (for I am speaking to ones knowing the Law), that the Law lords-over the person for as much time as he lives? 2 For the married woman has been bound by the Law to the living husband; but if the husband dies, she has been released from the law of the husband. 3 So then, while the husband is living, she will be called an adulteress if she comes to a different husband. But if the husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is not an adulteress, having come to a different husband." Why didn't Paul say the same about husband? (if man and woman are equal in marriage)?! He gives as the example a wife as according to the Law (verse 1) a man can marry as many wifes in his life as he wants, but woman can have only one living husband. So apostle Paul saw marriage in a Jewish way which of course allowed the polygyny. Dictation of monogamy has pagan roots. Paul as prophet will write "1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will depart from the faith, paying-attention-to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars having been seared as to their own conscience- 3 forbidding to marry (...)" And it has began from forbidding the polygyny.

[@sigalsmadar4547]

​@@marianskodowski8337Oy, the 10 virgins weren't all for the one groom! There was one bridge and her 9 attendants!

[@Fairfax40DaysforLife]

These comments are wise but ultimately unhelpful. The Old Testament goes beyond merely describing incidents of polygamy. The law of Moses (dictated by Jehovah!) outlines rules for polygamy and slave wives. This can't just be ignored.

[@rebeccacampbell585]

No and it's not a contradiction either. What did the jews in the Bible do? Moses wanted them to walk up the mountain and see God for themselves but they refused. They just wanted Moses to do it for them. They damned themselves to a lesser law. So the rules you're talking about are just administrative rules for living in their community in the lower state they chose for themselves. And you can see how it turned out for them. I dont condemn them myself as most Christians are now doing exactly as they did at that time. Lazy, won't know God, choose a lower and easier way.

[@220SeaChaser]

Why any man would want the headache of having more than one wife is beyond me. One is one more than I care to deal with.

[@rkirkpatrick01]

Misagynists shouldn't even take one wife.

[@beam5037]

Polygamy wasn’t the answer for a poor marriage I don’t believe. If you really had good success with number 1 you might get another if you could afford it and wanted lots of kids. I guess.

[@danielcarpen]

@@beam5037 Vasectomies are awsome and I got the 2nd marriage right.

[@beam5037]

I’m guessing Women are much better wives when they aren’t the only ones. I once had a rooster who had only one hen and she treated him like dirt. The other rooster I had , had many hens and they all treated him well, some better than others.

[@AuContraireMonFraire]

Beam same in real life with women.

[@gmsyourredemptiondrawethni8616]

Proverbs 3:5 trust in the Lord with thine whole heart and lean not to thine own understanding

[@patmelton43]

and the rest of that verse is "in all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy path."

[@kensmechanicalaffair]

Ye, and amen.

[@marriageofthelambassemblie1693]

Amen

[@halleluyahtorahdefenders8469]

@@marriageofthelambassemblie1693 Great ministry. Polygyny is not against Torah

[@magatism]

Jesus trumps em all and he rejected polygamy.

[@Sig_716]

God “allows” humans to do what ever they want because they have free will. Just because man does it doesn’t mean God sanctions it. God lays out his will for man it’s up to man to be obedient.

[@airmandorian]

John The Revelator Thanks, man. I thought people like you did not exist in the comments section, lol.

[@TheShinedownfan21]

God sanctions everything that occurs. He is very tolerant, he has no creed.

[@crushsatan]

God actually gave multiple wives to king David. He even said he would have given him more if he asked. It was not a question of God "allowing " it. God actively supported it.

[@crushsatan]

2 Samuel 12:8.

[@danielcarpen]

No he does not

[@2wheelz3504]

But God blessed and praised his polygamous messengers. He never once condemned them for breaking his law in this area. Not Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob and all of his sons would qualify to preach in my Baptist church. But, they were blessed and praised by God. I still haven't heard an explanation that makes sense other than that God had different standards in OT and NT times

[@hxrx9670]

No. God blessed their faith, despite their human faults.

[@zonedoutempire9477]

God does not change.

[@kayc.8283]

Brain: Go to sleep KZbin: Santa explains Bible verses. Brain: Yes

[@okitasougo8265]

Yo I read ur comment as Satan

[@kayc.8283]

@@okitasougo8265 😂

[@beauty1984ash]

@@okitasougo8265 me too and I came to the comments to see what people had to say about that lol

[@mpumelelozwane9229]

🤣🤣🤣🙌🏾

[@mxolisimsimango9367]

😅😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@robbailey464]

It's still hard to understand since it was God himself who gave Saul's wives to David (2 Sam. 12:8). By so doing, isn't God tacitly approving polygamy by blessing (?) David with many?

[@azmike1956]

Rob Bailey, To populate the earth & continue family lines. Monogamous relationships came later. With you bro.

[@nihilistic7840]

Population was sufficient by this time, surely.

[@brodiwheeler7583]

It was viewed as a blessing by the people of that time, but look at all the trouble that came from David’s many wives. God allows us to do and have things that are not always good for us sometimes, probably in the hopes that we learn and come eventually to see what matters most in the end. Just my take.

[@Eraktab]

yeah often things that God permits to happen are things in which people describe as God doing*. As Brodi mentioned above, these may be things that aren't ideal and sometimes serve to sculpt a person. Solomon may have been allowed (by God) to have these wives specifically to place him under the temptation of multiplying wives. Such temptations are allowed to test ones faith - this is heavily echoed in the new testament.

[@peaceblessings4512]

I once listened to a Muslim and a Christian have a light discussion back and forth. Both were trying to show why the other why their faith was incorrect. Finally, the Muslim says something aling the lines of: "You may be right...I may be wrong...but at least I do what my book says. Why dont Christians do what their book says? Why should anyone listen to a hypocrite? Even atheists know more about what the Bible says then most Christians! Your book says dont eat pork, and Christians eat pork. It says observe Passover, and Christians observe Easter. It says rest on Sabbath, and Christians font do it." Muslims know they can take 4 wives and multiply children. The Bible places no restrictions on believers. Christians can take multiple wives and multiply children, yet they listen to what their Pastor or denomination teaches, rather than what the Bible teaches. Its their fault for trusting in man, rather than trusting in God. One can say there is no need to keep Gods command to be fruitful and multiply...yet is the righteous on earth increasing...or decreasing? I see much sin and wickedness today. May so called believers be cursed until they wake up and repent...namely those teaching falsehood. _I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live..._ _Dueteronomy __30:19_

[@davinciandres6131]

*Great answer* to an important question! *Thank you for helping me see the distinction* between the divine moral and corrupt human morals in the old testament!

[@husseinamaz6842]

read my comment sir

[@Asiyah2000]

Woah 😳😳😳 what??

[@cliftongaither6642]

please, explain to me how your god is moral.

[@mnm8818]

copy pasted rant: ah God never punishes polygamy. but if you wear mix fabrics, or call someone bald, you deeeead. if you or someone in your town accidentally does something wrong (to Bible God) you deeeeead. Many bible characters went to 'red light districts' no punishment- Judges 19 a Levite priest's female slave get assaulted by some randoms in a Benjamite city. so he kills her and Israel goes to civil war with Bible Gods backing to genocide the Benjamites. -Genesis 38: Joshua sleeps with his daughter thinking shes a prostitue. -Moses married a pagan priestess. -Many Israeli married Canaanite which is forbidden. - if you have birth defects you are unclean and desecrate Bible Gods sanctuary- Leviticus 21:17 - Onan bro Er couldn't have enough babies so God kills him. - Numbers 16 if you complain to Moses about so many of your own people died by God's hand you die. no punishment for polygamy though. God sounds like an ancient middle eastern dad with bad parenting skills.

[@metalgearsolidsnake6978]

Spiderman no way home< Well if it is a king, he can have whatever he wish for.

[@onyemaonyia8910]

Marriage!! What a beautiful elucidation on The Original purpose, Desire and path of The Almighty God. How I wish our generation will see and hear this. Thank You sir.

[@d.rabbit7276]

No western male should ever consider marrying. What are the benefits? There's only disadvantages that makes a man into a submissive simp to be fleeced by the family court system.

[@stef3603]

Polygomy: what a beautiful elucidation on the purpose and path of god, representing his unconditional, unbiased love and freedom of choice.

[@yohanan713]

@@stef3603 a path that leads to jealousy, lies, distrust, and in a truly primordial context.... murder and tribal war. Love is not defined by sex according to leftists. Polygamy has nothing to do with love. It's not selfless in any capacity.

[@RandommomfromOntario]

@stef3603 yes freedom of choice.. to be in a Monogamous marraige. HalleluYAH ❤️‍🔥

[@danielburton2927]

@@RandommomfromOntario “If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be her's that was hated: then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: but he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭21:15-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬ God allows you to marry multiple wives . after reading this go back and read all the new testament. There is only 1 instance where the Bible clearly states A man can only marry 1 Wife . “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;” ‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:2‬ ‭KJV A Bishop must be the husband of one wife . What would be the need for God to clarify that, if everyone only has 1 wife . That statement alone shows you there are instances where someone with more than 1 wife is present .

[@babulsantai]

Because polygamy is natural

[@TriciaRP]

Actually is false and causes diseases and major problem a The way Jesus said now and then is right.......one wife one husband..

[@linaawadallaiskander7594]

Read well please because he allows polygamy actually this video is not saying the truth. Do you think that God changed this commandment you about polygamy in the old testament which shows that God allowed polygamy :Exo 21:10 NHEB-YHWH If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights. Because he did with some commandments in the new testament. Here they are: Actually I believe that this was written in Chapter John, Jesus says he is changing some laws in the bible. And he mentioned because the people in the old testament were very evil he allowed them to do what they want and he says now it is different. One of the examples is God allowing divorce when a man gives certain amount of money to the woman who married her whether from fornication, rape, marriage ceremony. So, the God in the old Testament allowed divorce. Also, there were three ways that people got married in the old Testament. One was sex (becoming one flesh), second rape (google sex in marriage and divorce bible verses in the old testament), third was marriage ceremony. Anyone who committed any of them was considered married according to God's commandments in the old testament. In the new testament when God was speaking to the women (at the water) who was having sex with many men, God reveals that she is not married (highlight that God considered her not married it is not a word mentioned in the bible but the story concludes that) and she is sinning (fornication). (which is opposite from the old testament as I mentioned). So, As you see The Bible changed some of the commandment from the old testament to the new testament. Lastly, God himself says he came to finish (perfect) the testimony and fulfill the prophecies. (Perfecting his biblical book, changing some of his commandment as you see from what is mentioned above). There is nothing wrong with God changing his laws in Bible as he is fulfilling the law (which means making it perfect, and that means to perfect something you can change it. Which is what Jesus did). This is something most Christians miss.

[@patpittz6709]

God made Adam and Eve. Not Adam, Eve, Stacy, and Jane.

[@jacinths94]

YEEESSSSSS

[@vorklan]

Adam, eve, stacy,Jane, jack and jill, ....., , , , ,,

[@rkirkpatrick01]

To be fair and accurate, God creates everyone.

[@patpittz6709]

@@rkirkpatrick01 yea but the garden account was not an orgy. The more as times goes on the more I see how sick and carnal we're becoming. Something so simple as Adam and Eve gets twisted into polygamy.

[@rkirkpatrick01]

@@patpittz6709 will of course there is no "orgy" in the Bible. Adam and Eve is a description, of events, not a prescription for others. For that we look at the legislation within God's word. Exo 21:10 If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights. If it were a case of adultery, well, the penalty for that was death. It's only a carnal mind that twists God's command into an orgy.

[@VVeremoose]

Not only do the wives fight and lead their husband astray, but having multiple wives to set yourself up as king is blasphemy. God is king and man's efforts to aggrandize himself usurpes God's holy station.

[@jackwilliams8509]

What if the wifes love each other

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

@@jackwilliams8509 thats gay and not right

[@sfgirl76m32]

I have been struggling with this topic while reading the Old Testament. This is probably best explanation I have heard on this subject.

[@danieldeluca4936]

The reason you struggled, is that the Holy Spirit was telling you, through the Word of God, that there is nothing wrong with polygyny, but you didn't want to accept that, and so you found a teacher that will tickle your itching ears and will justify the unrighteous jealousy that you allow yourself to have.

[@eew8060]

​@@danieldeluca4936 Are you a Mormon?

[@danieldeluca4936]

@@eew8060 Nope! I had a chance to talk to a couple of Mormon missionaries in my home recently. I mentioned to them that the Book of Mormon specifically condemns polygamy in five places, including the Book of Jacob, chapter 2. What about you? Are you Mormon?

[@eew8060]

@@danieldeluca4936 Nope. Not a Mormon. I also don't believe the bible promotes polygamy at all. One man one woman relationships only

[@danieldeluca4936]

@@eew8060 Well the only book that tells you that polygamy is prohibited, is the Book of Mormon, so you would fit in real well with the mainline Mormon church. The Bible has no condemnation of non-excessive polygyny whatsoever!

[@SophiaVonHelgastein]

Not to mention that also when an old testament man had more than one wife, God opened the womb of the wife that was not loved as much as the other wife or wives. God closed the womb of the wife that was loved more.

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

God speaks to this very thing in His law in Deuteronomy 21:15 and forbids a man from giving a double portion inheritance to his favored wife instead of to the actual firstborn son of an unfavored wife. I think the principle and spirit of the law here is outlawing a man from playing favorites, and how inheritance rights are granted is the example used to communicate that principle.

[@derekthompson5731]

Very unsatisfying answer to the question... 5:26 - OT saints "never held up as moral examples, but only as examples of faith"? Seems a false distinction to me. How exactly does a hero of faith (Heb 11) live an IMmoral life? That seems a false distinction between "faith" and "acts of faith", or between faith and obedience (morals, ethics), both of which the OT saints abound in and for which are held up as examples in the NT. Obedience is faith. The saints were faith heroes in Heb 11 because of what they DID. Better question than "Why did God allow" (which invites ambiguity) would be "Is polygamy sinful according to the Bible?" There's no law against it in either "Testament". Virtually every OT saint explicitly practiced it (and those that aren't explicitly shown to do so probably did so. As a rule, women are only mentioned in the Bible if they're relevant to the narrative. Thus there may have been more wives than are explicitly identified). God never condemned anyone for it. And God entered into covenant - it would appear - with a bunch of guys that were almost all, to a man, polygamists. If it was egregious to God (i.e. if God considered it adultery, a violation of the 7th commandment AND a capital offense), one has to wonder at his covenant making with Abraham, Jacob, David, not to mention his use of others (Gideon, Solomon). I personally think Moses had multiple wives. Zipporah was Midianite (of Abraham through Keturah; of the line of Shem). The wife he was accused of taking (by Miriam and Aaron) was Cushite (i.e. of Ham's line). That would make two wives at least (in addition to any not mentioned in the narrative). I would also speculate that the multiple different names for his father in law (Jethro, Reuel, Hobab) did not all refer to the same individual. Seems a hard argument to make (against polygamy). But for most Christians, one generally believes something is wrong if one personally think it's wrong, irrespective of what the Bible says about it. In this case, the evidence against polygamy is clearly lacking, but that doesn't keep most Christians from believing it's the equivalent of adultery.

[@rkirkpatrick01]

Yeah, it's hard to abstract faith from faithfulness. If these men were in fact faithless to God it seems unlikely they would also be heroes of the faith.

[@derekthompson5731]

I would also add, as a preemptive strike, that arguments in favor of polygamy do not constitute the next phase of sexual deviancy by a backsliding nation, as it frequently bemoaned by conservative press (e.g. polyamory). This cannot be equated to free, no strings attached, non-paternalistic sexual revolution. What we see in the Bible is paternalistic to the hilt, was geared toward nation/tribe building, involved childbearing as an imperative, and marital responsibility. This was not "I'm free to roam and hookup with whomever (or whatever) I want" as is the cultural bent today.

[@RED-WEAPON]

@@derekthompson5731 You're incredibly articulate, and have the vocabulary of a well-spoken lawyer. Interesting.

[@markwilding3828]

You ask an important question... I think the deification of the biblical saints is at the root of many crisis' of faith. They had weaknesses and sin just like us, they were human, not gods. Shouldn't we be glad that God chooses to demonstrate that we can be right in his eyes with all our flaws?

[@AquaCarb]

Im still trying figure out how to get a camel through the eye of a needle. Now it doesn't say what size the needle has to be.

[@omamajohnpaul4215]

Show one scripture that says it's a sin to have multiple wives. MAN BY NATURE IS POLYGAMOUS.

[@bBlicky93]

If we going by that logic, by nature we should just do what the animals do. I’m starting to think the goal of life is at least try to elevate past our animalistic nature

[@marriageofthelambassemblie1693]

There isn’t a verse in the Torah that says it’s a sin

[@omamajohnpaul4215]

@@bBlicky93 Do not evade my point. Show one scripture that says it's a sin to have multiple wives. Also, are you saying that a man marrying many wives is animalistic? Be straight forward.

[@bBlicky93]

@@omamajohnpaul4215 it ain’t one in the Bible we know. Maybe in the Bible with all the secrets in it but that’s another topic for another time lol. But let’s take the man who had the most wives, Solomon. If u can see his life play out u can see a man who couldn’t quench his own lusts and still fell to a woman at the end of his life. Maybe we are allowed to have multiple wives idk quite honestly. I know I would since I don’t care much for taking care of kids like that. I kinda jus wanna come around give a piggy back ride or two and take a nap u feel me?

[@omamajohnpaul4215]

@@bBlicky93 I understand but it wasn't because he had many wives that he fell. The LORD told him not to marry the FOREIGN WOMEN because they would introduce their idols to the people and cause the people to worship foreign gods. He didn't listen and the rest is history.

[@grantikos]

God didn't allow polygamy He ordained polygyny unless the man desires the office of Bishop or Deacan. God gave David all of Saul's wives as a gift, so God condones polygyny. Marriage is a picture of the relationship God has with the church. One God (bride groom) many members of the church (the bride) The lesson you gave of the rich man taking another man's only sheep was wrong. God was angry at David for taking another man's wife. That is adultery. Your understanding of this subject is trainted by your church tradition and not governed by the words of God. David was the apple of God's eye, contrary to you he always obeyed God all of his life while he was a polygynist. "Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." 1 Kings 15:5 He had many wives and God blessed him. Shame on you for twisting the scriptures to suit your false teaching.

[@joeashbubemma]

I will get married in the eyes of God, I refuse to get married in the eyes of the State. In the age of Grace, all is allowed, just not recommended. Proceed with caution.

[@AR-withBumpStockRoundDrumMag]

Marriage License causes alot of problems. Its a union of man, woman, and state...a polygamous relationship. To disolve it, the man and woman have to go before the government and get permission...

[@rachelmcclain5367]

Why do you say that? I'm just trying to gain perspective. Because I would do both, live by the laws of the land, but also being married in the eyes of God because that is what he wants.

[@markwilding3828]

The State will see it differently when it comes to who gets the house when it all goes sideways.

[@rachelmcclain5367]

@@markwilding3828 Hopefully a marriage would be built to last. Unfortunately, evil could seep its way into someone life too easy

[@user-hj4uo7py5m]

Love is the most important thing between a marriage. And the Level of Love both have for one another. Love never fails. Not even a certification of marriage will be able to break a marriages foundation built on Devoted Love. Instead of rushing into something, it's important for both involved to Build a Strong Love Bond as well as Strong Convictions that will hinder anything looking to disrupt that Bond of Love. And if one does not have desire ,Devotion, and Discipline for Love, the best thing would be to MOVE ON. For the sake of both your Hearts.

[@ianpatrick23]

Absolutely love that you tackle these tough questions

[@marksoni6793]

I really appreciate Dr. Gentry's style and cadence of explaining very hard answers to very hard questions. I have profited well from his answers in understanding what polygamy was in the Bible and what it was not.

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

I personally think he avoided texts that contradict his hypothesis.

[@husseinamaz6842]

read my comment sir

[@sabrinamartino777]

@@toughbiblepassages9082 where in the Bible does it say that polygamy is okay. Can you make a KZbin video citing this. Thanks

[@patricianoel7782]

Especially since I was Mormon for 60 years. 🤭Truly, thanks,

[@husseinamaz6842]

@@sabrinamartino777 may i ask u this question : in which case divorce in allowed according to new testament ?

[@jblack9604]

Interesting.. But when David took another man's wife God said " if you wanted another wife I would have given it to you". He didn't say you have enough wives u don't need any more. But I do agree God's plan was 1 wife.

[@sbryan060]

True. Additionally God himself claims to have had two wives symbolically, Judah and Israel. It's just a cultural issue for us but it's not immoral, what's immoral is the inhumane treatment of people.

[@kingladelldonaldson3728]

Especially since there is a law for having multiple wives and how to conduct yourself.

[@sbryan060]

@@kingladelldonaldson3728 Yes sir. God's culture is life giving, FAMILY FIRST. Any evil man can sleep around, it's on every corner, but the man of God will commit, provide and protect all that God has given him.

[@andybluewater2291]

There would be only one tribe in Israel if polygamy wasn't approved and applied.

[@zealheals]

@@andybluewater2291 FFW a bit》...but isn't there only 1 Bride of Christ?

[@michizon123]

Interesting. Although, concerning his interpretation of Nathan's illustration for David, couldn't one also argue that there is no condemnation mentioned for having many wives? Additionally, in 2 Samuel 12:8, God seems to have blessed David with many wives by saying "I gave you your master’s house, and your master’s wives into your bosom, and gave you the house of Israel and of Judah." It is evident in the Genesis narrative that God did not prescribe monogamy, but would you really say it is a sin?

[@pmgddm]

Excellent point. And if those wives were, in fact, a "gift from God" doesn't that pretty much refute the argument that multiple wives were "allowed" but not "God's plan"? Would God gift a man something that He didn't believe was good for him? Again, I'm not arguing for polygamy (for many other reasons), but I find the biblical arguments extremely weak.

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

Terrible answer. No one has ever satisfactorily answered why polygamy is wrong. Including this guy.

[@brandonharris2094]

(5:37 & 6:05) The answer you're looking for is found in these few words. Basically, Old Testament examples of polygamy was written for us to LEARN from, not practice. Any honest man who has 'married' and lived with any woman for several years know this! (lol)

[@zod4320]

Brok what should that tell you? It’s like a scientist who tries every possible way to prove his theories right and just can’t seem to do it...it never occurs to him that his theory could be completely wrong. Maybe the reason “NO ONE” can give a good biblical proof of why it’s wrong is because it isn’t?!

[@BrokTheLoneWolf]

Lewis Seitz if it is a sin then David was having an ongoing sin. So is he in hell, the man after God’s own heart? And if he’s not in hell as a polygamist and the Bible never goes out of the way to condemn it then what are we doing here? I agree it’s a cultural no no. If you want to use Christ and the church as a symbol of monogamy then you will have to explain to me how the church is not made up of millions of individuals. It’s a better example of polygamy if you want to go there.

[@meghanwilson1451]

Very well explained. Thank you for this!

[@Peter-tg9zv]

I’m not saying polygamy is “good” but why do people lie and say polygamy is prohibited in the Bible? That’s a lie.

[@IanKowalski77]

The Old Testament allows polygamy but doesn’t encourage it. Great men such as Abraham, Israel, Judah, Gideon, Samson, David, and Solomon had multiple wives, though the Old Testament records many problems that resulted. However, the law actually made it mandatory in one circumstance: if a married man died without leaving a male heir, his brother was required to marry his widow regardless of whether he already had a wife.

[@marriageofthelambassemblie1693]

👏

[@1Whipperin]

There's many problems with monogamy too. Biblical law regulated having more than one wife so it's not a sin and polygamy is lawful. This teacher is lying.

[@IanKowalski77]

Bible is non sense

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

If the levitate marriage law required was required even if it results in polygamy, (as you say, and as I agree with) then that means as a matter of principle, that polygamy cannot be wrong.

[@IanKowalski77]

It's a ll crap written and edited over millenniums

[@DownwardsRising]

"Moral man" vs "man of faith", I think that is well explained. This applies to slavery too I think.

[@tyronegooch5251]

Are you referring to the Bible or history of the last few hundred years? The Bible says a person who kidnaps a person and one who buys them shall be put to death. Slavery is kidnapping.

[@stevesmith7843]

@@tyronegooch5251 well no, the bible condones indentured servitude which people wrongly call slavery, it's close, but not the same, you see the bible permits people to sell their children (their own property) for example to somebody for service, marriage, etc, and to be honest, people put their own morality on God and claim it's wrong to sell something you created that belongs to you. Unfortunately those same people either refuse to see, or genuinely haven't noticed, that it's LITERALLY the same thing Christ did for us, HE BOUGHT US, he PAID for us, as it says, we were ALL BOUGHT FOR A PRICE, and it wasn't gold or silver, but something MUCH more precious, the Holy blood of Jesus Christ the only begotten son of God almighty. That is why in my opinion paul always refers to himself as a slave for Christ, there were rules around how people were to treat their indentured servants well, very specific ones, and how servants were to serve well, how wonderful it is that our MASTER is the Father, Son, and Holy spirit, who bought and paid for us with the blood of Christ, how much more so are we than to serve well? and how much better shall we be treated by our faithful master? May God bless you and keep you :)

[@DownwardsRising]

@@tyronegooch5251 The video says that polygamy is not moral, and that examples of polygamy such as Abraham should not be considered moral examples. I'm saying slavery in the Bible is the same way. The Bible says slavery is not moral, and that examples of slavery such as Abraham should not be considered moral examples.

[@DownwardsRising]

@@stevesmith7843 Where does the Bible permit somebody to sell their children to someone else? I can't think of the place.

[@stevesmith7843]

@@DownwardsRising also as i stated previously the slavery in the bible from what i can tell is more "indentured servitude", when it comes to the real deal super oppressive what we would call "slavery" God opposes it and demands his people be set free ( the egyptians and the way they were treating the hebrews). there were laws governing treatment of slaves/indentured servants, and also laws governing their service. God bless.

[@headlinenewsrant5134]

1 Ki 15:5 "David did what was right in the eyes of the LORD and did not turn aside from anything that he commanded him all the days of his life, except in the matter of Uriah the Hittite." David had multiple wives....seems that it was RIGHT, in the eyes of YHWH.

[@rkirkpatrick01]

BINGO!

[@rkirkpatrick01]

@@danielcarpen did you want me to comment on this article? He doesn't provide a place for commentary on that site. How do you think the Bible Answer man did?

[@danielcarpen]

@@rkirkpatrick01 Not an apologetic so I fact checked him. Will run it by our associate pastor next time I see him. He teaches at Fla Bible College.

[@rkirkpatrick01]

@@danielcarpen do you agree with the Bible Answer man that Prima Facia (on it's face) the text appears to approve of polygyny?

[@cookieDaXapper]

However, God did not instruct David to have multiple wives. Just because God doesn't swiftly judge poor decisions, does not mean that he approves.

[@mace7754]

Lmao.. he butchered what God actually said to David... God told David "Had you come to ME, and told me what I had given you was not enough.. I would have given you more!" So stop right there old timer and lets see you explain that one away... GOD told David if he would have come to Him about wanting another wife, He'd have given him one... Smh.. this guy is silly😂😂

[@DidierBan]

The video didn’t answer the question? It just give a story of what happens.

[@patmelton43]

Yes, it did. The man said it was not God's will for men to have more than one wife. He spoke of all the trouble polygamy causes. Read the New Testament and quit trying to justify your sinful lust for more than one woman.

[@DidierBan]

Pat Melton , wow 😮 never see that coming ; are you ok sis . I’m a happily married man in love with only one woman.....my wife. The title says why God allowed polygamy .

[@GazpachoMacho]

@Didier 619 Apologies for her. She assumed you were being a hypocrite obviously without knowing you first. Experience shows that people don’t usually do that unless there is a bit of self righteousness somewhere in their motives. This is an unfortunate thing for anyone trying to spread the good news. But I would just like to point out however that the person in the video actually did give an answer. God has many times told people that polygamy is a sin and has spoken against it many times as well. See Deuteronomy 17:17 for one example. But even though he commanded people not to do it they still disobeyed him. Even people who served him and were saved disobeyed him. But as with all sins God does allow them. Because it may surprise you that He uses all things to work together for His good even evil things. So yes God did allow it for a time. But mind you it was still a sin and all sins must and will be paid for. Fortunately for the people who trusted in him back then, and even now they didn’t have to pay for their sins themselves. Because God sent his son to die in our place so that His righteousness could be given to us and we wouldn’t have to pay an eternal price of death. And more importantly so we can spend forever with him in perfect happiness and love. The same is true for anyone who repents of their old ways, and asks Him to be Lord over their lives. I pray that you would see the truth and I tell you these things with good will and love. Peace be with you, and run to God. I promise it will be worth your while. He wants to love you. And he wants to make you perfect.

[@DidierBan]

@@GazpachoMacho , thanks for your reply . God bless you Brother.

[@DocJoeStan]

@@DidierBan And it is a presumptive question. "Does God allow polygamy in the bible?" would be a better worded question.

[@mrmonay]

So the argument is marrying multiple caused troubles so don’t do it? But marrying one doesn’t cause trouble for a man? Seems a weak argument.

[@OLBK]

Teaching from the bible just without the bible part :)

[@PeopleoverInstitutions]

I hate when people try to explain Scriptures and wanna make YAHs way our Way. So didn't YAH tell King David that HE GAVE ALL OF SAULS WIVES TO HIM? 2 Samuel 12:8. Then where do yall get this from that Abraham was disobedient and got Hagar Pregnant? NO SARAH was doing an Ancient Custom that MANY of the original 12 Tribes came from , cause some of them were born from Hand Maidens. Sarah was the one WHO told Abraham to Sleep with HAGAR. Genesis 16. The PROMISE for the seed to come through SARAH was made AFTER ISHMAEL was born. Genesis 17:15-16. Yall teach this wrong. He didn't try and fo things on his own. Yall add to the scripture trying to be more wise than the MOST HIGH. Genesis 17:17-22 , The PROMISE IS given for SARAH, AFTER THE BIRTH OF ISHMAEL. Abraham did not SIN in this regard. Read the scripture and NOT the commentary of other Men or a Seminary school.

[@garytakvorian6204]

Superbly done. I will save this for my own and others future reference. Never heard this better explained. Simple and concise. Praise the Lord

[@rickperez1336]

Thank you Dr Gentry! “They were examples of Faith not examples of morality”...that explains Samson and Jepthah being named in the famous Hebrews Chapter 11 Hall of Faith chapter...I have always been puzzled by this? How could Samson (his lifestyle) and Jepthah (sacrificing his daughter) be in this faith chapter.

[@eric777100763]

You should know the answer to that. Because we live under grace. The truth is man is totally depraved, however when Yeshua shed his blood of Calvary those sins were remitted. Anybody since been saved for more than a year should know that you see the junk there teaching in the seminaries.

[@headlinenewsrant5134]

Jepthath didn't "sacrifice" his daughter.

[@rickperez1336]

Headline Newsrant Judges 11: 29 - 40

[@headlinenewsrant5134]

@@rickperez1336 I know where it's located. Read it again...use varying versions. Jepthah's daughter wasn't burned as an offering. Her life wasn't lamented...her virginity was.

[@eric777100763]

Well first of all it doesn't exactly say he did kill her although it appears to me that he did. My opinion about this if he did it he did it on his own accord. I do not see any conversation between him and Yahweh about what should be done. Yahweh doesn't take human sacrifices I think there's something not exactly right with this story. In other words I'm saying I don't know the answer to that particular verse to be honest. I'll say it one more time though I think he opened his big mouth I don't see Yahweh asking for that. The only time that that happened before was when Abraham took Isaac and you don't notice that God stopped him and he sent a ram that they didn't use for the sacrifice. Something doesn't seem right with this story.

[@bmaurice8032]

People say polygyny is wrong because of jealousy and then they use the bible to back their feelings. If God detested polygyny He would've said so. When David sinned and killed Uriah, He didn't have to give up the woman he committed adultery with. In fact, they had a baby together and they called him solomon. God called out David's sin, and it was not polgyny, his sin was adultery and murder in the first degree. Solomon's sin was not polygyny, it was idolatry of false gods. Jacob didn't even want his second wife. He honored the commitment even though he was tricked, but that story really doesn't apply because Jacob only wanted Rachel in the first place. Lastly, how can a man have a perfect heart before God (1 kings 15) while living in sin, the sin being polygyny? It's not possible. God hates sin. He tells us what is sin. I find it a little odd that He seemingly glosses over this very pressing issue for modern Chrstians if it were truly a sin. But the reason it is such a problem for us, is because our counterparts and our culture doesn't approve. Looking to society hardly makes for a good moral compass. Look to God, and there is truth.

[@KingPingviini]

He allowed thing for a time being, even if it was against His will. Neither shall he multiply wives for himself, lest his heart turn away (Deuteronomy 17:17).

[@bmaurice8032]

@@KingPingviini read the full verse. Don't quote just half of it. That verse is directed towards kings. And we know it's a warning bc when David has his wives, God even says He gave David all this wives (2 Sam 12:8). God doesn't tempt us. Neither does he tolerate sin in the lives of his followers. God's rebuke to David happened when David sinned. His sin was the murder of Uriah and adultery by sleeping with another man's wife. Notice how David didn't get called out for already having multiple wives? Things to consider

[@kagishosebusi7399]

@@bmaurice8032 you’re so analytic. Your points are clear and make so much sense. I love it when you say God does not tempt us.

[@70ad84]

Deuteronomy 21:15-23 King James Version 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: 17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

[@Nasjen]

Looks like it’s most likely that the first wife is hated.

[@70ad84]

@@Nasjen 🤣🤣🤣

[@amatulnoor7171]

Polygamy means one man serving many women financially, emotionally and physically. That's why God allows it.

[@spicykola4301]

Facts

[@sinistransgressionofthetor5449]

Serving is exactly right

[@TriciaRP]

NOT IN THIS DISPENSATION

[@WithMyOwnEars]

Uhm you make it sound like women should be thankful that they had to share their husband, his time, devotion and resources when all of them were his property.

[@radutomoiala6016]

But 2 samuel 12:8 says that God gave him those many wives in the first place, this confuses me

[@lanceasher6492]

Because their lying it's that simple do your research this is roman tradition there trying to imposed on God's ppl

[@yeshuaislord3872]

@@lanceasher6492 so true, I don't understand why they lie though,no one is forced into polygamy

[@lanceasher6492]

@@yeshuaislord3872 These males are starting to play the submissive role so thats why you see them fighting polygyny...

[@AR-withBumpStockRoundDrumMag]

Cause it's not a sin

[@charleschimfwembe5528]

What is marriage for? For procreation, so that the world can be filled up, in line with the economy capabilities. So if a man can manage many wives let him be. We are currently in a situation where there are are so many single mothers which is not healthy for the offsprings.

[@zerofox2030]

This dude looks like he's twisting parts of the bible to fit what he believes. Not a good look.

[@yahisgoodallthetime-hebrew7608]

Twisting it like a 🥨 pretzel

[@nellykibe8843]

Not good at all.. they all do that.. if they support what's right, and what's true, they won't have home to go back to.. wives will kill them.. the Sarahs.. Sarahic Spirit.. wives.. hellcats..

[@jermaphobic8308]

I could listen to this guy explain scripture all day!

[@bencovington1121]

Please don’t!

[@linaawadallaiskander7594]

Read well please because he allows polygamy actually this video is not saying the truth. But when David took another man's wife God said " if you wanted another wife I would have given it to you". He didn't say you have enough wives u don't need any more. But I do agree God's plan was 1 wife. 23 Do you think that God changed this commandment about polygamy in the old testament which shows that God allowed polygamy :Exo 21:10 NHEB-YHWH If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights. Because he did with some commandments in the new testament. Here they are: Actually I believe that this was written in Chapter John, Jesus says he is changing some laws in the bible. And he mentioned because the people in the old testament were very evil he allowed them to do what they want and he says now it is different. One of the examples is God allowing divorce when a man gives certain amount of money to the woman who married her whether from fornication, rape, marriage ceremony. So, the God in the old Testament allowed divorce. Also, there were three ways that people got married in the old Testament. One was sex (becoming one flesh), second rape (google sex in marriage and divorce bible verses in the old testament), third was marriage ceremony. Anyone who committed any of them was considered married according to God's commandments in the old testament. In the new testament when God was speaking to the women (at the water) who was having sex with many men, God reveals that she is not married (highlight that God considered her not married it is not a word mentioned in the bible but the story concludes that) and she is sinning (fornication). (which is opposite from the old testament as I mentioned). So, As you see The Bible changed some of the commandment from the old testament to the new testament. Lastly, God himself says he came to finish (perfect) the testimony and fulfill the prophecies. (Perfecting his biblical book, changing some of his commandment as you see from what is mentioned above). There is nothing wrong with God changing his laws in Bible as he is fulfilling the law (which means making it perfect, and that means to perfect something you can change it. Which is what Jesus did). This is something most Christians miss.

[@kevinschaefer3945]

@@linaawadallaiskander7594 Sounds like you're teaching Mormonism rather than Christianity.

[@70ad84]

Deuteronomy 21:15-23 King James Version 15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated: 16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn: 17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

[@GDZHOUSE]

@@linaawadallaiskander7594 You just spilled out a bunch of Cognitive dissonance and blasphemy! Wow!

[@Benjamin-tf4cm]

Why was David who was perfect in Gods eyes but also had many wives the sin he committed was he took another mans wife but before that he had no problems with God.

[@Benjamin-tf4cm]

@UCvV6NoT83eBsGInKPaadjSw my point exactly 👍🏽💯

[@marcuswalls9701]

He wasn't perfect I'm Gods sight..but he was a man after God's own heart

[@ephraimphiri5789]

This presentation does not address the basic problem...and does not shed any new light...

[@michelferreira9695]

At those times, women couldn't own any property and men were in less numbers since they were the ones dying at wars. The very solution for many families was polygamy and concubinage. My heart tells me that polygamy is a way of the flesh which turns impossible the true spiritual intimacy that a husband and wife can have in a monogamist marriage. Polygamy happens more for economical and lustful reasons, therefore is not a thing of the Spirit. God allowed polygamy because at those times it saved many women from poverty, prostitution and slavery, because men were dying at war fields, but in the other hand He did not created wives for Adam also. He did create ONE woman to ONE man.

[@ephraimphiri5789]

I can see now that it is not in your nature to understand polygamy..., or anything relating to Holy order of life and procreation....you see it from the illusion of current reality, the confines of our prisoned mind...the deception of eons!!! Draw nigh to the hedge of ignorance, then Truth shall reveal....

[@michelferreira9695]

Adam and Eve had many, many children, and they did not need to go into polygamy. They fulfilled the purpose of multiply and spread. Then it was Lamech, from Cain's offspring, a murderer, that was the first to have many wives. Your words are just ornaments to hide your own impure thoughts, because your flesh wants to justify its own means in order to fulfill the lust of having different women, a dream of illusory power, instead of having a sacred and intimate marriage with one woman, as one flesh, as God did with Adam and Eve. Jesus parents were not polygamists, and God chose them. Besides, if men were meant to have many wives to fulfill procreation, God would've created many wives for Adam. Instead of following God's design, you follow something that a murderer started. The world is going to 8 billion people and polygamy is a minor culture. Monogamy is sacred, because only then you can become one flesh with a woman. A man can never truly have a sacred intimacy having many wives. If a man thinks he need more than one wife, he thinks he deserve more than he truly need.

[@figomacboy4779]

Michel Ferreira ya make too much excuses for this false God, the real god is in you.

[@DavidMorales-cz9wt]

God knows men's heart , If they take care of there wife's and children with Godly love and do what's pleasing to God will bless the family union!

[@UToobUsername01]

The reason solomon went bad was the FOREIGN wives that were pagan.

[@MrTheGuitarNerd]

But that's a condemnation of a sort of spiritual miscegenation, as it were. Not a condemnation of polygamy.

[@danielcarpen]

@@MrTheGuitarNerd It was no allowed, Giving Eve to Adam and creating the covenant of marriage was already established.

[@markperry2827]

Wish i could have been there to see it too

[@Berean1711]

Please Sir. Read you bible!! And don't created doctrine made by yourself. The disciples never refer to someone as an example or morality, not because there were not any. But because the word moral is from the Latin. Not use the word righteous, and you will see examples of it!! Read your bible! And stop giving your opiniones base in human intelect!

[@FreeKAzoiD8]

Why does everyone ignore the fact that God himself gave David all of his masters wives, GAVE!!!! 2 Samuel 12:8!!!!! If you want the most accurate version to the origional Hebrew, read the Septuagint, but I warn you, you will be very surprised what The Lord does. And why do people ignore the fact God built the Nation of Isreal from 1 Man and 4 Women!!!!!!!!!! Gods chosen people were born of Polygamy!!!!! And two of those women were concubines, not even wives!!!!!!!!!!! Stop listening to a man, and seek The Lord's truth for yourself, because there are no excuses, only God's Truth!!!!!!!!!!

[@johnseb5856]

@King Amen-Tut-Ankh ok? Youre point?

[@franciscor.m.8003]

So, are you saying that poligamy is biblical or accepted by God?

[@Nexus-ub4hs]

Have you read the Talmud? It’s quite interesting how the Pharisees change things, and they’re the ones who wrote down the OT

[@sheenamessinger9137]

Thank you! That has been my main question. If God himself gave King David Saul's wives(plural) who is man to say it is wrong or sinful for man to have multiple wives today. This was man's law instituted in the 1300's not God's law. Research without prejudice will verify this.

[@haruhianderson4019]

He gave everything of Saul’s to David, he have Saul’s wife into David’s **care**. Or “bosom” implying care, he never commanded David to sleep with them or to marry them or to copulate with them, but in the same way he gave all of Saul’s subjects to David by making David king he gave Saul’s wives to David by making David king.

[@farmtohealth259]

The only slight issue i have with one thing he said was, this disreguards 2 samuel 12:8 kjv. God says he gavr him those wives and if he asked for more, god would have gave him more. I agree other parts of the bible express possible calamities of polygamy, but god does not give evil things to a man. And james 1:13 kvj he does no tempt anyone with evil. It seems more like how Jesus described being married vs being a eunuch, James 9:12. Obviously being eunuch is not part of gods original plan because a man is to cleave to a wife. Let me know your thoughts guys. I am curious of your responses.

[@thechach050]

Ther are several commentaries on the subject from biblehub(dot)com which state that the royal harem would have been inherited by David and thusly given to David along with the rest of the kingdom, regardless of whether or not David actually married them. This language in 2Sam12:8 would serve not to say that polygamy is morally acceptable, but that God has bestowed upon David all that he could possibly desire. David's sin becomes all the more egregious when David (notwithstanding the permission of royal polygamy given by the eastern cultures at large, and especially considering that an obedient king would not have engaged in polygamy) goes outside of his inheritance to take another man's wife. Basically, God is saying, "you had your pick of a harem and said no, but you instead took what was someone else's." As Benson's Commentary states: "The wives of a king went along with his lands and goods unto his successor, it being unlawful for the widow of a king to be wife to any but a king, as appears by the story of Adonijah. The expression in the text, however, does not necessarily signify that David married any of them; nor have we any proof that he did. Indeed, it is doubtful whether he could consistently with the law of God. See Leviticus 18:8; Leviticus 18:15. The meaning seems only to be, that God put them into David’s power, together with Saul’s house and other property."

[@christopherlin4706]

Polygamy is still sin, it’s just God tolerates it. Idk why

[@jonathantraylor297]

He avoids 2 Samuel 12:8 because he doesn't have a sound answer.

[@Abeisgreat1]

There are more women than men in most countries. If it is indeed 1 man and 1 woman, what do the other women do that want children and to be a wife. Are they just out of luck?

[@Dougytea]

Man you did a really good job with explaining that and you actually answered the question

[@toughbiblepassages9082]

But he never actually went into any of texts. He merely mentioned them in passing without diving into what they mean in their contexts.

[@grantikos]

He did a really good job telling you what the Bible doesn't say. He tickled your ears. Read your Bible, believe the words on the page, don't believe this false teacher.

[@RandommomfromOntario]

With so many men on here believing in Polygamy you'd think there would be no single women left out here 🤷🏾‍♀️🤣

[@lesliewinchester8225]

@@RandommomfromOntario single women are that way due to widowhood. We don’t want another lying man. We’ve had one.

[@danieldeluca4936]

@@lesliewinchester8225 That is outrageous! I know lots of women who never married and who want or have wanted a husband. I know of two right now who bemoan the fact that their younger brother is getting married, and they are both still looking for their "Prince Charming". My older sister was in her late 30s when she finally married, and she told me of how she cried herself to sleep every night. A worship pastor at my former church spoke of a lady who finally found a husband when she was 81 years old!

[@admanassas1853]

@SouthernSeminary:2 Samuel 12:8. How isn't this an example where God "allowed" polygamy in the Bible.

[@kclark8080]

I've come to the conclusion that monogamy was a principle or standard, but not a law. There is no mention of punitive action by God for polygamy, whereas for actual laws being broken, there was. I find the morality vs faith argument interesting and likely valid. Good talk!

[@Yohanyothan]

How can a man cleave to multiple wives?

[@Yohanyothan]

And how can he go about his current marriage while courting another? Doesn’t that require emotional and physical attraction? Adultery of the heart and even body?

[@pmgddm]

@@Yohanyothan Marriage at that time was far more an economic or political union than anything to do with desire, love, or any other kind of attraction. Especially for wealthy or royal men. No courting involved. Many could legitimately argue that the direction to "cleave" to your wife has far more to do with providing security, food, clothing, housing, etc., than any emotional attachment and, if one has the means, can easily be done individually with multiple wives. Again, ancient Hebrew (and other) marriages of wealthy and royal men had so little to do with emotion and desire one could safely say those had nothing to do with it. FYI, I'm not a polygamy advocate for many reasons, but I do find most of the arguments against it based on biblical principles and examples extremely weak. For example, saying it's not good because of stories that it didn't end well is an argument that could also be applied to singular marriage. It often doesn't go well either.

[@kclark8080]

@@pmgddm I'd lean more to the thought that it was cultural. There was no political or economic benefit to Moses have multiple wives, yet he did. Even if you go with the thought that in order to propagate the nation of Israel, polygamy was allowed, it seemed to be something that God allowed, though not his original purpose. Pre-Abraham biblical titans, Adam and Noah seemed to stick with the single wife principle but after that, it was game on, climaxing with the 700 wife/300 concubine insanity that was Solomon. If Abraham, Moses and David were polygamist, there's no justification for it to be a sin.

[@kclark8080]

@@Yohanyothan Both sets of your questions deal with marriage from an emotional aspect. This is not relevant to law or even principle; for the sake of this argument.

[@georgeratkovich7161]

Very well delivered, and easy to understand. Thank

[@garlicgirl3149]

I was always told this and it is nice to hear others are going forward with the same message. You have to read the bible in totality and read it in context. Thank you.

[@boracay12]

But .... When David took another man's wife , got her pregnant and then had her husband set up to die in battle etc . God told David " if you wanted another wife all you had to do was ask .I would have gladly given you one " hmmmm ..gladly .. would have given him another . Ok I remembered it a little differently . Here it is ;I gave you your master’s house and your master’s wives into your keeping, and gave you the house of Israel and Judah. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more

[@patmelton43]

@@boracay12 The sword never left David's house from that day onward. God NEVER winks at sin. Sure people sin, but they never get away with it. "Be sure your sins will find you out." David's private life was plagued. One son killed the other. One of his sons tried to kill David. the bloodshed was so bad that God would not allow David to build the temple.

[@boracay12]

@@patmelton43 all true . But my point was that David had several wife's and hundreds of " concubines" yet God said through his prophet he would have gladly giving him another wife if he had asked . Instead of taking someone wife . That's the argument for having more than one wife . That wasn't Gods intention . But he allowed it .

[@patmelton43]

@@boracay12 My point is that God loves women just as much as he loves men and there is no favoritism in God. God NEVER sanctions marriage of man to more than one woman. That would make him vile - and God is perfect. He loves women just as much as men so He would not make women property. And you are misquoting God. God said, "I would have given you such and such. He never mentions "wives" in that statement.

[@boracay12]

@@patmelton43 god allowed the Israelites to have more than one wife . He never punished anyone for having 2 . It's not his original intent for men to have 2 wife's but he allowed it . Fact .

[@trcmf]

The question was never answered. The video explained what happened with multiple wives but not why God allowed it which was the question.

[@Dr.Elaine1]

Tim Fevens Exactly!

[@abelflores3752]

Tim Fevens it could be because God allows us freely do what we want, he gives us free will, it’s up to us to do what is righteous

[@dariutoma2464]

Tom Fevens...God has different plan's/goals from ours... So different, like from the Earth to the sky, are His plan's from ours. He wish to have many Son's in His Kingdom... And we wish cars, house's, nice clothings, gadgets and a lott of food for our belly :)) :)) :)) yes... and not to forget: many shoes and handbags. There is just a single woman in the whole Bible who giveth birth to 20 kids... and her's husband was a special, and blessed Man! There was many people heaving many kids from different wifes, and is interesting why is not writting about Solomon's kid's... We do know about his 1000 woman's (700+300) and none of them was righteouss ... There was Jerubaal with 70 + 1 Son's from many wifes, and all of them die... except one... (A wise one). But, the questions is, did those kids reach the Kingdom of Heaven, after they die? *This is God's finall goal!* We marry, we have kids and after a while, maybe 20 years or even earlier, they are *"leaving the nest"* and what we invest in them is the all we can do, in this 20 years! The questions is: What are our goals about/for them..? Do we try to transform them in Specialists, in Doctors, Rocket Scientists, Lawyers, Pilot's ... Or do we try to bring them in God's Kingdom ?!? Are our plans His plan's???

[@GeorgeDEE78]

and what happened with multiple wives was exactly why God said one man one women, it was a warning they missed the point like you missed the point in the video.

[@fearlesscrusader]

@@dariutoma2464 No, that is not the question. The question is, why do you randomly sprinkle apostrophes throughout so many of your plurals?

[@askevan1991]

"Why did God allow polygamy in the Bible".....let me save you six minutes, he doesn't know for sure lol

[@osmopolito]

I know.

[@alphabravo3566]

I got 6 minutes to spare. But thanks anyway.

[@presscottkingdollar9881]

@James Brice You have just demonstrated that you have not done any studying concerning biblical marriage.

[@presscottkingdollar9881]

@James Brice If you look at EVERYTHING the scriptures say about marriage you will come to the conclusion that monogamy and polygyny (not polygamy) are acceptable forms of marriage to Father God.

[@linaawadallaiskander7594]

Read well please because he allows it actually this video is not saying the truth. Do you think that God changed this commandment you about polygamy in the old testament which shows that God allowed polygamy :Exo 21:10 NHEB-YHWH If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights. Because he did with some commandments in the new testament. Here they are: Actually I believe that this was written in Chapter John, Jesus says he is changing some laws in the bible. And he mentioned because the people in the old testament were very evil he allowed them to do what they want and he says now it is different. One of the examples is God allowing divorce when a man gives certain amount of money to the woman who married her whether from fornication, rape, marriage ceremony. So, the God in the old Testament allowed divorce. Also, there were three ways that people got married in the old Testament. One was sex (becoming one flesh), second rape (google sex in marriage and divorce bible verses in the old testament), third was marriage ceremony. Anyone who committed any of them was considered married according to God's commandments in the old testament. In the new testament when God was speaking to the women (at the water) who was having sex with many men, God reveals that she is not married (highlight that God considered her not married it is not a word mentioned in the bible but the story concludes that) and she is sinning (fornication). (which is opposite from the old testament as I mentioned). So, As you see The Bible changed some of the commandment from the old testament to the new testament. Lastly, God himself says he came to finish (perfect) the testimony and fulfill the prophecies. (Perfecting his biblical book, changing some of his commandment as you see from what is mentioned above). There is nothing wrong with God changing his laws in Bible as he is fulfilling the law (which means making it perfect, and that means to perfect something you can change it. Which is what Jesus did). This is something most Christians miss.

[@sallykumwenda5308]

I feel sorry when I hear such questions like why did God allow Polygamy. People who are watching this video don't be deceived. God is God. He can decide what He wants to do with anything He created. He even says it in the Bible. So why does the world want to claim to be wiser over something they can never create? Please stop putting words into God's mouth. The only being who could answer this question is God Himself. And the fact that He never justifies why He does certain things. It means you don't have that right to know. You will go to hell!!!

[@sinistransgressionofthetor5449]

Amen

[@FreeRhuna]

Did David commit adultry with all his legal wives, yes or no ? If yes, than is David in hell ? He never repented of polygamy. If no, than where is it written that you cannot have two wives ? Chapter and verse please.

[@LanLe-rz4lm]

How can you commit adultery (taking ANOTHER man's wife) when you've taken those unattached women for yourself? See the contradiction in modern American (20c) definition of adultery? THE bibilical definition of adultery is WIFE STEALING (taking another man's wife); if she doesn't belong to another man, she's free for you to take to wife. Ez 23 Yahweh takes 2 virgins to wife; after David commits adultery with Bathsheba & murders Uriah, she had no more husband, so what did God make David do? Did he not have to make things right by MARRYING HER after already having about 18 wives at the time? Does God hear sinners? Then why is it that right after it's recorded that David takes MORE wives that he asks God for direction at someone attacking him & Yah tells him to GO DO IT & his victory will be certain?! 1 Chron 14. When David DISOBEYED Yah, God made him SUFFER and REBUKED him did He not? Remember the Song of the Prophetess Deborah when they had a victory in battle "to every man a girl OR TWO"? Judges 5:30-31 - Was she blaspheming? Remember who rewrote the 10 Commandments..a man with more than one wife - MOSES himself had 1) Zipporah, a Midianite, descendant of Abraham: Exodus 2:15-16,21 and Exodus 18:1-6 & 2) An Ethiopian woman: Numbers 12:1(-15); Jewish tradition says he had many more concubines. Isaiah 4:1-2 about the glorious day of the Lord, how 7 women will take hold of 1 man; don't we hear how there are MANY women even today wanting to take hold of one man; my nephew has 2 wives.

[@RichardMcDonaldJr]

I'm kinda disappointed that these weak arguments are coming from the southern seminary. I'm by no means arguing for multiple wives, just pointing out that this is some serious eisegesis.

[@s.s.7754]

Why is this weak? I thought this was a thorough response. Gentry basically said though the Bible reports what OT figures practiced, God does not condone it. He lays out the biblical foundation and expectation of marriage in Genesis 2.

[@RichardMcDonaldJr]

@@s.s.7754 I don't recall the exact content of the video and am unable to rewatch it at the moment. Off the top of my head; concluding that God does not condone polygamy, because of the parable told to David, isn't close to accurate. The parable was about David's adulterous and lustful heart. Obviously God didn't kill his other children with other wives, but did in this situation.

[@lillyo5458]

so what exactly is a good argument?

[@RichardMcDonaldJr]

@@lillyo5458 , if one existed I'm sure he would have made it.

[@marvinezekiel8825]

Show us where it clearly condemns polygamy. "CLEARLY".now Moses himself wrote the Torah, and he himself wrote the 2 shall become one flesh,( mind you the Bible is not an English book), but Moses married 3 wives including an Ethiopian woman, and his sister Mariam was trying to behave like this neaderthal creature talking on this KZbin video, and what did God do?? Smites her with leprosy.hahahahaha. allegorical explanations at best. Br fruitful, multiply and re-plenish the Earth, that's the order but these white people try to deceive the world with monogamy, LGBT, all depopulation and population control schemes . Get behind me Lucifer

[@BM-tx2ph]

I feel a little shaken up about this. Idk...I feel like a toy to be used and someone can replace me with the next woman once they get tired of me. I feel kinda sad about this..is there a such thinga as man loving only one woman or must his mind be to another? Sighhhhh I struggle with finding self worth already...so this makes me feel more worthless, tbh. I'd ont wanna feel this way but.. ?

[@peaceblessings4512]

Speaking from the Bible your not suppose to be replaced. Your to continue to receive love and care. *A man will show love by providing food, clothing, and marriage rights.* Men and women are wired differently tho. Women have a maternal instinct, and men have this instinct to care for women by providing for them. Men create millions of sperm per day, are men naturally polygynous? Hmm maybe *A man will show love by providing food, clothing, and marriage rights. This is an expression of love for a man.*

[@BM-tx2ph]

@@peaceblessings4512 hmm interesting but even us women has a lot of eggs as well that were never gonna use to have a baby but it is interesting that males produce that much speed everyday. If men are naturally polygamous than God shouldn't have made Eve only for Adam in that case. As Jesus said that there was only suppose to be one woman from the beginning and to put away their wives wasn't so but because of the hardness of their hearts that God let it pass. To me, any rich man can provide those things if they have enough money to afford them for their wife. Doesn't necessarily mean they love them from their heart. Im meaning affectionately. As King Solomon had over 700 wives. There is no way a man can be in love with all of them at once. Its lust of the heart and God views love differently. The Bible says you twain (meaning two) shall be one flesh, not you 200, 300 shall be one flesh In that case, love becomes a fairytale to me and only something us women can dream about. So I only get one person that has the attention of many women ...? I barely will get his time..tbats only if he calls me as he is King and you can't just enter into his bed chamber. This seems like..such a weight on us women. We grow up under our fathers and be owned all of our lives and we can't even have something of our own so precious ? Its depressing. Something as beautiful as love shouldn't be shared so carelessly.. Love suddenly feels so dull and meaningless..

[@richaelaniek.7660]

I feel you ! Makes me feel like a property and not being recognized as a women who is human being too ! In my opinion, if God can allow man to do such then women should be allowed also … because it’s not fair how we as women are expected have only one man and be loyal but in return we get disloyalty by men having multiple

[@ARAZTXTN]

Can a man be unmoral and still have great faith? I always assumed the two were correlated, how can you trust God in all things but not trust his words to be moral?

[@rosewildbill6368]

...you are correct, I mean the Old Testament saints were not "moral" is a weird thing to say ...and incorrect but I guess he can say whatever he wants...

[@danelobe2524]

Because our faith is not baced on our morals, or the obeying of morals.

[@happyforever1528]

No ! but he can still have faith but it won't be in the God of the Bible !.

[@rebeccacampbell585]

@Janaina Ribeiro faith is a belief. Morals are how you act. He explained it well with the story of king Solomon. He basically said one thing, probably truly believed what he said, but then did something different anyway. Had the faith but not the morals. Today people always want to either 1. Trust in others 2. Trust in themselves. Rarely will they ever Trust in God and that's all God has ever really asked of all of us.

[@peaceblessings4512]

It’s not about morals Our obedience to God and his word is what matters Gods law regulates polygyny, but never condemns or prohibits it - Exodus 21:10 Jesus did not come to do away with the law or prophets...until heaven and earth pass. Look outside our window, heaven and earth are still here Eating pork is a sin, not keeping Sabbath or Feast days like Passover are sins, homosexuality, not returning lost property...

[@Durangotek]

Yea. Makes it hard to read bible when god says one thing and all his followers do the opposite lol time and again.

[@takakonobe]

That's the whole point man is jacked up. That's the whole point of to return things to before the fall.

[@sandstorm7768]

that's the point. humanity is sinful. we are all flawed and should all repent. this includes even the historical bible heroes! Moses, King David as he said, even Jesus' 12 disciples themselves! again, humanity is flawed and needs salvation. it is not a mark on God that people are sinful, it is a mark on people. it's a logical fallacy to say Christianity is bad because people are bad. again, that's the point. we need to repent.

[@Durangotek]

@@sandstorm7768 that goes for any other religion just tired of all these idiots that think theirs is the only one or whatever

[@sigeberhtmercia767]

@@Durangotek Every other religion says that we must extricate ourselves out of the mess we're in, i.e. that we must haul ourselves up by our own bootstraps. Scripture instructs us in various ways that only God can do this and not we ourselves.

[@Nexus-ub4hs]

According to the bible, God instructs to take multiple wives. This I have issues with. Half of Gods human population are treated like cattle. Of course it was women that could be killed for adultery, meanwhile the man just took extra wives and concubines. Either scribes falsely out words in Gods mouth or there is something very wrong. Don’t kid yourselves women would ever have been happy with this. Men’s greed is what it is

[@gustavblty1826]

Was the father of prophet Samuel a king ? or a normal believer ? a normal believer correct ? and he was polygamist he had two wives : Anne and Pennina.

[@patmelton43]

That is no argument. Just because men sin NEVER makes it right and cannot be used to argue in favor of sin.