Why did Grindelwald lie to Voldemort?

Did Grindelwald truly feel remorse ...
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[@ivancerecer5758]

Book Grindelwald: "I aint saying shit" Movie Grindelwald: *Snitch-Mode Activated*

[@b.y.o.p.9035]

Snitch-Mode. Nice. 😅

[@aleshadaniels8997]

😂😂

[@kaosreality7154]

Oh okay so he doesn't say it lies with him...dumbledore in the book. Was thinking what is this vid on about as movie he does snitch...he's the golden snitch

[@Bilski86]

And Voldemort doesn’t even kill him

[@Blinkers2007GameDev]

Fr fr

[@klein2042]

Old man Grindelwald is a legend lmao

[@huggos12349]

A chad

[@yousufownzu6902]

I didnt get it. Elder wand was with dumbelldore. Grinderwald says voldemort that dumbelldore has it. When did he lie? What did he lie?

[@klein2042]

@@yousufownzu6902 In the books

[@TIAdor-um8gc]

​@@yousufownzu6902He didnt say it in the books, its a canon event.

[@Prometheus715]

@@yousufownzu6902 he didn't say that in the books

[@AdromedaJoel]

In the book Grindelwald calls Voldemort by his actual name Tom, showing no fear of him, and he laughs mockigly before Voldemort kills him. He never kills him in the movie

[@iamgp3313]

Yeah because in the film he told the truth

[@AdromedaJoel]

@@iamgp3313 yea exactly in the book he refuses to tell him and mocks him, welcoming death

[@deandelvin9924]

Book Grindelwald was badass. He was the Dark Lord before Voldemort, and he acted like it.

[@AdromedaJoel]

@@deandelvin9924 Word. Grindelwald was more of a badass than Voldemort

[@kylethechild3942]

He didn’t call him Tom.. he just said, “Kill me then, Voldemort, I welcome death!” He used his name, Voldemort

[@saltysnake3774]

Movie Grindelwald: "Lol, it's over there." Book Grindelwald: Starts roasting Voldy.

[@Slytherin36]

Fr

[@Blinkers2007GameDev]

fr

[@KusabeKuruyashiki]

Nah bro skipped voldy and started roasting *Tom* 😂

[@MissPotter191]

Grindy:𝗧𝗼𝗺....𝙪𝙣𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙩𝙧𝙤𝙡𝙡𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚 𝙡𝙖𝙪𝙜𝙝𝙩𝙚𝙧 Voldy:AvaDa KEdAvRa!!

[@kitherlunney9096]

If I was Grindelwald, I would have called Voldy “son of a muggle” before dying :)

[@sh_0017]

😂😂😂😂

[@neerajsingh7745]

Damn ❤

[@bjt6012]

Be better off saying it before you died would have a much better effect 😂🤣

[@Uncertified_Legend]

Voldemort would get so mad because technically he IS a son if a muggle

[@nishilee3029]

😂😂😂

[@jamescrowhurst640]

Film Grindelwald without hesitation “ The Elder wand lies with him of course. Dumbledore” 😂

[@ACAcarriAb]

Exactly, what does he mean "lies to Voldemort" He literally tells him exactly where to find it.

[@CYbeRuKRaINiaN]

@@ACAcarriAb Book Grindelwald did lie

[@ACAcarriAb]

@@CYbeRuKRaINiaN that's cool I guess. A bit sad to see that they changed it in the movie. It's not a small thing to tweak.

[@Blinkers2007GameDev]

Lol

[@NotExile4669]

​@@ACAcarriAbtrue. WB shitter the movies.

[@andreasul2608]

Book grindelwald was like: Yeah no, listen here Tommy boi. take a piss. Kill me or whatever. Ain't telling you jack. Bye bye

[@edithuboffc]

😭😂

[@nathangrey6236]

Grindelwald makes entire Europe fears him Voldy: only makes Brittain and kids fear him

[@Doomzdeh]

I think that Grindelwald truly did care about Dumbledore, and saw a kindred spirit in him. Grindelwald saw a future where witches and wizards didn’t have to hide who they were and could fully be themselves and embrace their magic. His ideals weren’t evil, though he was very greedy and admittedly disdainful towards Muggles. Voldemort was an arrogant brat, probably, to Grindelwald. He believed himself so great that he made many grandiose mistakes and couldn’t kill a single average wizard boy. He rejected his own name out of idiotic hatred. And he wanted to subjugate many good witches and wizards simply because of who their parents were. Grindelwald would never have stood for that. Grindelwald’s final words and his defiance spoke not only of his hatred and disrespect of Voldemort, but also of the bit of righteousness in him and his care for Albus, his best friend in the world (even after all that had happened between them).

[@sleepycritical6950]

That is true, though I can't hack it up with sauce I think Grindelwald accepted all magic people even muggleborns and wanted the wizarding world to rule over the muggleborns if only because he saw them as dangerous. He actually wanted some semblance of coexistence even if it was skewed towards the wizarding world.

[@aspieangel1988]

Grindlewald, was a sociopath. Voldy was a psychopath and freaking insane 😂 there’s a HUGE difference. Sociopaths know they hurt people, they just don’t give a shit and feel no remorse and don’t give a crap what others think. Psychopaths fake mercy and love and put on the charm to get people to trust them and then they show their true colors and go nuts if they don’t get their way and end up regretting their actions later. Grindlewald scares me but Voldy I could tolerate.

[@chandlerrose4545]

When he wasn’t even a pureblood himself!

[@seaneskimobandman]

Albus was his lover not his best friend. In the books it clearly stated that they were romantically involved

[@thesimslover82884]

​@@aspieangel1988Well until you saw the green light, right?

[@mozaidazli2806]

Until his last breathe....Grindelwald still protecting his deceased friend Albus Dumbledore though he was defeated by him.....

[@ThatJackWrites]

They were a bit more then friends! Lol

[@Ashbar__]

​@@ThatJackWrites they were gay?

[@Jasmindreamable]

@@Ashbar__ in the Secrets of Dumbledore, Albus Dumbledore and Gellert Grindelwald made a blood pact where they swore an oath never to fight each other. which ofc seems like 'marriage' to me :")

[@Ashbar__]

​@@Jasmindreamable but didnt he broke the blood pact?

[@Toji-Fushiguro-sama]

​@@Ashbar__ yrp

[@michaelsuk6440]

Although Dumbledore was dead, I believe Grindelwald paid him respect for never breaking their unbreakable vow, even after death. Grindelwald was evil, but he did have a soul, unlike Voldemort. He probably disrespected Voldemort for the fact that he literally had no soul.

[@brandonreed09]

He had 8 souls actually.

[@drewhatt917]

​@@brandonreed09 7

[@Sleeping_Doggo]

​@@drewhatt917 1 rotten soul split 7 ways

[@RanaltheBeetle]

It was a blood oath, not an unbreakable vow

[@vinayakmajumder459]

@@RanaltheBeetle and it got destroyed I think? In secrets of Dumbledore

[@SetikPEESS]

The amazing things about this scene in the novel is, how Grindelwald greetings Voldemort with smile and die welcoming death like his old friend. That's what i called The True Dark Lord. Its like Grindelwald talk to Voldy "hai Tom, too bad you're wrong i never had it. What? Voldy gonna cry? Voldy gonna kill me? Then do me a favor, free me from this body while my middle finger pointing at your nose"

[@deandelvin9924]

Don't forget that Grindelwald was laughing *while* under the Crucio curse. Dude had balls of steel.

[@imneveruploadinghere7180]

Nose? what nose?

[@iacAon]

"nose" 💀💀

[@chie970]

Nose? more like none

[@mrnoelle]

I'm sorry. Nose?? 🤨

[@GamesCooky]

If Grindelwald showed remorse, then perhaps that would also explain why he never escaped from the prison. Because he thought he deserved being locked up after what he had done.

[@thatguyontheriver2549]

That would be true if he hadn't broken out in the Fantastic beast Movies. Locked up and nearly powerless...

[@Tyrosine0910]

@@thatguyontheriver2549 They're not talking about him showing remorse during his "prime." They're talking about him showing remorse years, perhaps decades after his entire reign of terror. How can you not see the difference?

[@davidbartholomew7812]

Dumbledore and Grindlewald were friends/lovers (JK Rowling), that had a falling out similar to X-Men Xavier and Magneto. Obviously, Grindlewald still cared for Dumbledore

[@danszymanski1633]

He definitely didn't want Voldemort to defile his grave

[@kristinejohannessen874]

Ollivander suggested Gegorovitch was the last one, not Grindelwald. Gregorovitch had spread the rumour himself, that he was studdying the qualities of the elder wand. Gregorovitch didn't know who stole the wand from him, and Voldemort didn't realise who it was, until the altercation in Godrics Hollow. Here Harry had seen a picture of the thief in Bathilda's house, and slipped the image in his pocket while "Bathilda" didn't look (having seen images of the boy in his mind due to the connection he shared with Voldemort, he was curious himself). Harry lost the picture in the battle with Nagini, and Voldemort found it after reminising his first loss in Godrics Hollow. This was the piece of the puzzle he'd been searching for for months, and he then found out who the thief was; Grindelwald.

[@kathleencove]

This this this. So many people forget that this movie scene basically should have been Gregorovitch with how it happened, and that Grindelwald was later, just before Voldemort gets the Elder Wand before the final battle

[@Janav_Gupta]

I remember reading a theory about how Grindelwald was a seer and saw the rise of Voldemort and knew that the only way to stop him woild be to let Dumbledore win the duel and become the master of the elder wand. Probably quite far fetched bit interesting nonetheless.

[@baronhelmut2701]

And what wouldve stopped him from simply not going rogue and just getting the elder wand for dumbledore ? Giving wands as a gift also works. You can win it by the other person conceding it to you, just as much as you can by taking it.

[@nolsee1176]

Unlike Voldemort, he had the capacity to feel genuine remorse for his actions. That along with his final act being to try and protect the dignity of his old friend’s body probably allowed him to move on from King’s Cross Station in the afterlife.

[@JoseFigueroa-iz2on]

Grindenwald also had some semblance of morals and a code, despite his silver tongue.

[@Hybrid869]

Or the fact that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were bonded by the Unbreakable Vow.

[@christophersanchez7731]

Actually it turned out to be a blood oath which was more possible to overcome but is similar as it was made when two were together and wanted a precaution they’ll never betray eachother if either changed their minds. An Unbreakable vow can’t be broken until either death or condition behind vow is met A Blood Oath is more painful when defied but can be broken in an accidental clash as it did in most recent movie

[@Hybrid869]

@@christophersanchez7731 mannn I forgot about that. They did emphasize on that later in the Fantastic Beasts.

[@poojapunchihewa9276]

dumbledore broke it I think..

[@reposter6434]

Then he killed him... Yet if Grindelwald was still out and had the Elder wand Voldemort wouldn't of stood a chance against him. Grindelwald used magic as if it was an instrument, he was elegant and could do some of the hardest spells to cast. There was only one true dark lord, and that's Grindelwald.

[@e1k44]

Youre RIGHT Voldemort is really gruesome but Grindelwald is steady and unbreakesvle

[@crispysatyr0355]

And he didn't even have to do dark dark magic, he just used uber complicated spells.

[@covernyarai1867]

there is difference between Grindelwald with Voldemort and reasons why Voldemort is the dark lord 🤣 while Grindelwald is some narcissistic gay

[@akula625]

If he had a wand period he could have beat him

[@idontsleepatall1618]

​@covernyarai1867 bro grindelwald was built different he almost conquered Europe he actually had loyal followers and didn't just randomly kill them like voldemort did grindelwald actually made the elder wand obey him something voldemort couldn't do also bro grindelwald never feared death while voldemort did

[@Kayd2111]

He loved Albus, in his own way. Loved power and his ideologies even more. He wasn’t going to snitch.

[@CharlieDust942]

Grindelwald in the movie: "lying to Voldemort with no fear" Voldemort: "Buying Every Word Grindelwald's saying

[@Kayd2111]

@@CharlieDust942 Voldy was so arrogant he probably trusted his abilities more than logic itself. In his head no one would be able to lie to him successfully, which is what allowed for them to get away with it.

[@Cheffamily]

@@Kayd2111looking back, it feels like voldy is more of a serial killer than a political leader

[@sage1682]

Bc they gave each other mustache rides

[@GamesbiteRtDL]

Grindelwald ain't taking shit from some self-insert fan fiction dude called LoRD voLdeMorT. His name is so much cooler. It really invokes the feeling of something dark and the german name makes it smash in your brain. I'm not sure what Grindel could mean, maybe the dark water demon "Grindeloh", but -wald just means forest. Maybe he is a forest of darkness?

[@76JStucki]

He didn’t lie. When he said “I never had it,” What he meant was that the wand was never truly his. He didn’t win it, he merely stole it. So he was never the master of the Elder Wand. Dumbledore became its master because he won it in order to save others.

[@deandelvin9924]

Grindelwald stunned Gregorovitch when he took the wand, so I think it counts.

[@sleepycritical6950]

​@@deandelvin9924 tbh idk how gregorovitch ever became master of it. It would mean he was more skillful than almost anyone at the time because the wand is sort of sentient and had a tab of all the witches and wizards it ever went up against to pick the best of the lot. It could well be that like dumbledore, some guy died as it's master leaving the wand master less and then gregorovitch picks it up and becomes the new master only because he was the only wizard to use the wand in the era, and as a wand maker he doesn't duel so the wand had no reference until Grindelwald stuns him, but that means dumbledores plan of dying as the master of the wand was flawed to begin with.

[@sleepycritical6950]

@@raymondben36466 what? No he didn't. It was always his intention to die as the wands master, it was said so explicitly in the last book. He wanted Snape to kill him because he would not become it's master since Dumbledore would allow his death to happen, but Draco was a wildcard. His movements were known only vaguely since Draco was also trying to prevent Snape from knowing his movements and plans.

[@NightMareZ-Editz]

The fact that Voldermort didnt know Grindelwald was lying proved how much stronger he is than Voldermort

[@universalplayz7496]

I mean even snape mind can't be read by voldermort (Idk how the spell stars with an L) isn't an absolute form of magic and you don't need to be as strong as the user of it to nullify it.

[@01angadsingh]

legilimency @@universalplayz7496

[@KanyeWestIsTheGOAT-]

He’s not stronger

[@Neymar-Messi-Suares]

​@universalplayz7496 but grindelwald had been in prison for like 60 years, was 115 yrs old... snape was in his prime...

[@maxniemand975]

Harrys Wand had a kinship to Voldemords Wand but that problem was solved by him switching Wands. That scene is actually because Harry is a Hocrux and the part of Voldis Soul fights back.

[@Tombraithwaite1998]

Grindewald literally nearly had the whole world at his feet and voldemort was mainly left alone by the ministry whilst a bunch of children gaurded a school that voldemort wanted to destroy, along with one single teenager (harry) No wonder grindewald didnt even feel like telling voldemort about the elder wand if he was struggling to kill a bunch of children and needed a teenager to kill dumbledore for him because voldemort couldnt. Grindewald was probably like "skill issue, get good, lol" before voldemort killed him out of embarrassment

[@LashkoHSC]

Why didn't Voldemort know, that Dumbledore has the Elderwand? Everybody knew, that Dumbledore beat Grindelwald in battle, so Voldemort also should have known, Dumbledore had the wand

[@honeysuckledreamz]

Voldemort was dumb

[@coolfiretire12]

@@honeysuckledreamz yes

[@garethscott418]

Voldemort misunderstood the legend surrounding the wand and thought that you had to kill the previous owner to have it. Voldemort was so obsessed with getting the wand that he didn't notice the inconsistencies that were happening during his search for it.

[@mozaidazli2806]

How could he knows....he only obsessed in Dark Arts compared to wand making....

[@coolfiretire12]

@@garethscott418 voldemort dumb

[@kristine_riddle00]

Grindlewald protected his husband- I mean 'friend' Albus till the end of his life.

[@stephenwithaph1566]

Good friend & Roommate

[@TheGadgetAlpha]

If i met voldemort: Sir this is called gun , just aim and press this button.

[@bencurran3204]

Sir although that may be a giant, this is a Karl Garat

[@creepofreako]

Who cares about gun if you have a wand that can Avada Kedavra anyone.

[@bdoyl31]

I just pictured Voldemort getting weapons from the gun rooms from John wick

[@Kristal-Gamer]

im sure w a wand u can block bullets in mid air if ur fast

[@kyrios0307]

​@@creepofreako guns literally avada kedavras anyone faster than you can even say avada kedavra

[@PellosMaxhthc]

This is classic “Ideologue Evil”-“End justifies the means” type of thing which is Grindelwald VS “Pure Evil” which is Voldemort. Grindelwald is a much deeper and more interesting villain than Voldy because although he did a lot of what he did for personal gain, he also did it for his conviction of “freeing” wizardkind, and he stood by that until the end. His psyche is more complex, his reasoning and methods are more interesting to analyse. While on the other side we have Voldy who is evil for the sake of evil, the is no ideology or higher value that drives him besides power and immortality by whatever means necessary. Despite all the atrocities Grindelwald committed, he is still a person who is capable, at least internally to reach some form of redemption and forgiveness of himself. Voldy is irredeemable. Grindelwald > Voldy

[@uuu12343]

Wait, grindelwald was still alive in azkaban during the events of the deathly hallows Now thats...heartbreaking

[@msk1214]

In nurmengard not Azkaban

[@halvorson566]

Nurmengard Castle actually, his own prison, castle, base of operations, &home. A theory says he probably could’ve got himself out, but he stayed willingly because he felt he had to atone for what he did.

[@uuu12343]

@@msk1214 right

[@ruellwester5422]

He was locked up in Alcatraz

[@thercbfan4216]

Grindelwald : tom I am on Albus side 😂

[@chu3276]

Man johnny was perfect as grindewalt

[@jesusnthedaisychain]

Ollivander never knew who had it. Gregorovich, the other famous wandmaker, spread the rumor that he had acquired it and Ollivander knew that rumor. Riddle tracked down Gregorovich, used legilimency to find out who took it from him (Grindelwald, who siezed the wand, then stunned Gregorovich, thus defeating the wand's former master and winning its allegiance). Then Riddle murdered Gregorovich and the family he was with, a woman and 2 children. He figured out tgat the person he saw in the memory was Grindelwald from seeing his picture in Bathilda Bagshot's home and that's when he sought out Grindelwald, who lied about ever having the wand. He lied in order to protect Dumbledore and his resting place. He felt remorse for all of the evil he had done and knew that his life had been wasted.

[@_Eltoto93]

He was so powerful he brought a dead man to tears.

[@subratanandy2142]

Grindelwald had remorse. .. unlike Tom Riddle. It was sort of redemption: not letting the others go through the similar things he himself put them through. And .... well , he just didn't want to do something terrible to his friend once again

[@rachelcrawford1977]

I think it was both he did not want to help Tom and because only he could destroy Dumbledoor and he still liked him

[@poojapunchihewa9276]

though grindelwalt was a dark wizard, he had kind of decent behaviours or more humanities than voldermort... however, he loved dumbledore in past and were together for a long period of time... so... I think he thought to do some good at last..

[@Nnemicvids]

It brought the headmaster to tears.. after he was dead? I don’t get it?

[@blackheartthedarklord6428]

Remember in the last movie when Harry "died" and met Dumbledore? Maybe it happened then? I haven't read the book in a long time

[@gregorymccann3223]

@@blackheartthedarklord6428 think it was his portait in the headmasters office

[@tgreenseed7915]

Dumbledore seems to know everything so if that brought him to tears then that was probably the reason

[@Sidohu]

I always wanted to know that thanks for the info you explained it very short and well

[@raydaveed]

Because he wanted to protect his ex boyfriend

[@redzmachine3914]

So if not for a series of bad events including Harry being an accidental horcrux to 2 wand mishaps the most powerful wizard, arguably, would've beat a young mediocre wizard? Hard to believe

[@GXG420]

Voldemort has Lucius's wand but it was actually won by harry the night Sirius black died. harry knocked it out of Lucius hand and Sirius said nice one James and harry stopped and looked at Sirius. then Bella killed him.

[@anukritysrivastava]

Have you read the book 'Harry Potter and the order of the phoenix"? If not please read that it far better than movie. 😊😊

[@anukritysrivastava]

Not only Order of the phoenix but all the Harry Potter books they are better than the movies.

[@ganeshghodake0]

If Grindelwald and Dumbledore team up against Voldemort 😮

[@Abysslz]

You know I think it would have been cool if because Voldemort basically freed grindelwald that grindewald was released and even Voldemort couldn’t stop him, because let’s be honest the only man to barely beat grindelwald was albus, and albus can throw Voldemort around like a rag doll, baby maybe not.

[@peachpanda88]

Yeah base on Voldemort and Dumbledore battle in the book Order of the Phoenix, it was so obvious Dumbledore can easily defeat Voldemort if he wanted too but he didn’t because he know he can’t doe anyway because they haven’t located or destroyed all his horcrux. He was mainly stalling time dueling him while Voldemort is throwing killing curses to kill him and yet Dumbledore is still winning. This means if Grindelwald & Voldemort fight for real Grindelwald would definitely win but Voldemort still won’t die anyway because of his horcruxes. His body will just be destroyed.

[@majesticalpha40]

Fantastic Beasts🗿🗿🗿 Secrets of Dumbledore🤡🤡

[@fridavajanne8123]

I think that Gridelwald cared about Dumbledore all those years even tho their thing kinda ended when albus locked grindelwald to his own prison but anyways I think grindelwald protected dumbledore

[@mattthemouse1]

The difference between Grindelwald and Voldemort was the type of ideals: yes Grindelwald was horrible and evil, but he preached unity, implying some compassion for everyone wished to lead. Voldemorts message was the subjugation and destruction of all who dared to even just disagree with him. That kind of personality makes for a feared ruler, but also makes people a lot more likely to fight since they have a high likelihood of being murdered anyways

[@JCaylor2099]

Given his characterization in the fantastic beasts movies I can see it being a combination of all of them he still loves Albus but he feels bad about what he did but also would be like "you know what? F you Tommy"

[@QuenTeHein]

Grindelwald & Dumbledore It's those two old world champions who aren't afraid of the new and modern champion, lol

[@finnmacmanus5723]

Grindlewald was an evil ass dude and don’t let anyone here convince you otherwise. But he was far more human than Voldemort and had far different goals so he definitely didn’t respect him at all. That and the remorse and love for dumbledore, two things Voldemort was straight up not capable of feeling

[@chrishealton3830]

At least grindelwald was shown to properly succeed in killing an infant, even if he didn’t directly do it himself. Tom is kind of a loser. A soulless one, at that.

[@rochetstrider8725]

​@@chrishealton3830 I mean voldemort had a lot of restrictions and Harry had a lot of plot armour

[@ilevel007]

I think it was a mix of things. Lack of respect for Voldemort and his agenda. He didnt see him as worthy of the wand, especially inheriting it behind Dumbledore, who im sure Grindelwald respected as an equal (in terms of magic and intelligence). Voldemort was not on their level in his opinion. I also think it was to protect whatever plan and purpose he KNEW Dumbledore would have. I also think Grndelwald may have wanted to die as a way to free himself and maybe even for a hope of seeing Dumbledore again "on the other side," so he taunted Voldemort into killing him. And he also kept it secret out of love and respect of course.

[@MasterOfTheElements]

I think he did it for Dumbledore because he still loved him.

[@333yuichi]

Then movie fuck this up, such a waste to his character

[@ide1020]

The movie really botched this scene.

[@okok-rj7fc]

Don’t worry they did that to pretty much all of the scenes

[@junglebogged]

I cant believe that Grindelwald wanted to protect Dumbledore because no matter how he loved him, he wouldnt forgive Dumbledore for putting him to that prison for 53 YEARS

[@geoffreyokrongly916]

He was the most recent “Dark Lord” before Tom. And if he had a wand, any wand, Tom would have feared him just as much as Albus. Wandless magic is a thing, and wands are amplifiers of that magic. So as long as Gellert was wandless, Tom had the courage to face him. Still, Gellert regards Tom as a try-hard, and refuses to betray Albus any further. Mocking Tom, even daring Tom to kill him.

[@ManoOCE]

Does this man mean Gregorovich? That conversation was with Gregorovich, not Grindelwald.

[@6Kubik]

The difference between Grindelwald and Voldemort was that Grindelwald loved and was loved.

[@twistedracer961]

Not gonna lie Half bloods are some of the most powerful wizards/witches for example Voldermort Dumbledore Harry Snape etc

[@ThePathStrider]

The fact that Dumbledore could defeat Grindelwald, despite going against the Elder Wand, suggests that he wasn't lying. He might have had the wand in his possession, but never had it's allegiance. So Gindelwald was telling the truth, he never HAD it.

[@Mscape7]

That's NOT what happened. In the battle of seven Potters, Harry's HORCRUX protected him. It wasn't the eand. That was priori incantstum, that happened in book four.

[@RanitKrSingh]

Grindelwald was a much better Antagonist that Voldemort.

[@robertdeffenbaugh9004]

What are you talking about? He hinted to Voldemort who had the Elder Wand. “The Elder Wand lies with him of course” Unless you are talking about the Book not the Movie. I haven’t read the Books.

[@thomasm9461]

Then you have no right here 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@TheLarathavio]

They need to make a movie about voldemor

[@magnum69420]

the whole series is about him wdym

[@abigray8585]

@@magnum69420No it isn’t. 😂 Harry Potter is about Harry Potter and his story, how he fights and saves his world. Voldemort does not have his own story and we only see bits and pieces, like from the second movie and book. A full story would be super good as we only know pieces about his origin and what happened during his Hogwarts days.

[@Asian968]

I think it because grindlewand didn’t want to mention his fight with dumbledore

[@Harry_crypto_investor3634]

If the possesor of the elder wand is canonically unbeateble.. how dumbledore got it from grindewald...

[@aayushbhardwaj6735]

WatCh fantastic beasts full

[@thomasanderson9235]

Not undefeatable, just insanely powerful. Wands learn magic at same time as the user, so imagine a single wand that thousands of years of powerful wizards use it, practice and expiriment magic with it. And elder wand passing from one wizard to the next usually by force / fight to the death. Hence next wizard is at least as strong if not stronger than previous user, which amplify the wand's power even more. To normal wizards, they would think the elder wand owner is unbeatable, too. That also helps the owner when the more people fear the wand, the fewer number of people would try to kill him Dumbledore got it from Grindewald because he IS that powerful, even against elder wand user

[@JokerOrTickle]

@@aayushbhardwaj6735 it got canned in the end because the other two films would let up to that legendary battle

[@NoName-hg6cc]

It's not. It happened canonicaly before that the owner was defeated

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

The myth is that it was unbeatable. In reality it’s just a wand that’s been through a succession of dark wizards and knows many arcane secrets.

[@elslappo4107]

I wish the films weren’t successful ngl, it’s an absolute bastardisation of the OG story. Voldy should find out from gregorivitch that grindlewald had the wand

[@padraicmorahan3269]

What? he literally says “it lies with him” obviously meaning dumbledore

[@catxborsuq1]

One of the MANY things the movies changed, in the books he lies to him.

[@warover]

In the books he was a badass

[@G.H.O.S.T.254]

I always thought that Grindelwald really did love Dumbledore and felt bad about the crap that happened and the death of his sister. However he more than likely regretted nothing else in his life. Just the pain he caused to the man he loved.

[@Professor_McGonagall]

He was evil but now remembered as a man who repents.

[@scooter677]

I hate them for recasting Johnny depp

[@sethreynolds3704]

Knowing what we know after fantastic beasts and the secrets of Dumbledore. Grindelwald lied because he still is in love with Dumbledore

[@wwalkerofthesky]

AYO WTF

[@adivtayudhatama3926]

​@@wwalkerofthesky Oh you don't know? If I am not mistaken, JK Rowling said that Dumbledore was Gay (Or Bisexual, I am not sure, but he was not straight)

[@wwalkerofthesky]

@@adivtayudhatama3926 😳😱🤯😨

[@whosaguhboi938]

Yea and did you know that Hermione is also supposed to be a black descendant, and yea you have been J.K.Rowled

[@wwalkerofthesky]

@@whosaguhboi938 lol

[@codydickson8577]

Grindelwald was pretty much the Hannibal Lecter of the Wizarding World without the cannibalism 😂😂

[@abigray8585]

Grindelwald was a Seer so……. Of course he’d know Voldemort was coming for him, he saw it before Voldemort even really thought about finding him. He also did in his own way love Albus, that’s where he is different to Voldemort, he could love and feel emotion.

[@JJ-0.0luv]

I’ll ask if he wants my nose if I am grindelwald 😂

[@mynona2491]

In the movie he snitched but book Grindelwald redeemed himself

[@PrdpPrdp-q6z]

Grindlewald was flawed character, he believed in wrong things when we was younger but understood that he was wrong later. He had humanity in him unlike Woldemort who destroyed his humanity at the age of sixteen or seventeen when he made his first horcrux.

[@SerialDesignationR814]

Woldemort?

[@silkwind7618]

It's because Grindelwald is the TRUE Dark Lord. Tom Riddle is just a racist kid gone wrong. There's no way Grindelwald will just give away information of something that will make someone more powerful than him.

[@sorry2902]

grindelwald isn't a dark lord.... voldemort enjoyed killing grindelwald didnt

[@ShayanMallick29]

Herpo the Foul was the TRUE true dark lord. He created the first basilisk by making a toad sit on a chicken egg, he invented horcruxes (and it probably took him so many tries to get it, and then he wrote out a full guide for future dark wizards like voldemort to do the same), and theres rumours that he forged the unforgivable curses too. He was also Greek, also rumoured to be Slytherin's ancestor (meaning the oldest of Voldemort's known bloodline). AND hes probably alive now because he made the first horcrux which hasn't been found

[@SOLRAY1123]

I always thought Harry’s wand acted on its own accord because of Harry’s blood was in Voldemort and his mom’s protective spell helped? But then again once Harry left the Dursley’s I guess the spell was broken? Or is that only the age thing is broken at the ministry to keep track of him?

[@jamesswindley9599]

He still loved dumbledore ❤

[@nightlyrowentree6047]

I love that bro laughed in voldemorts face 😂loved it bro like "get good cuz"

[@WestLegend03]

Johnny was the best-looking and entertaining Grindelwald.

[@blackheartthedarklord6428]

I agree. Too bad his screaming banshee of an ex-wife ruined him until recently

[@larryyeo6708]

JD had the persuasive, influential vibes. Which is something that aligns with Grindelwald's characteristics and personality. Mads Mikkelsen really turned Grindelwald into a raging, demanding and bleak Wizarding Supremacist gone awry

[@dingdongangeles7904]

how did this brought Dumbledore to tears? He had already been killed prior to the Seven Potters event...

[@ryanclark7962]

At King's Cross in Harry's 'dream'.

[@DemonKingNemo]

I can already see confused movie only fans lol

[@aspieangel1988]

Grindlewald always had class and despite the fact he killed off muggles, he also had compassion on them and wanted them to live peacefully with the wizarding world despite him wanting to defeat them. It’s bad muggles he wanted to terminate not good muggles. However Grindlewald was also an evil genius and criminally insane and a sociopath. He knew he was hurting people he just didn’t give a shit and casually walked away like nothing happened. Then we have Voldemort….. insane lunatic and a freaking psychopath with no nose 😂 cool guy, pretty chill, friendly, showed mercy and compassion as where Grindlewald showed none, even if people didn’t join him, Voldemort still gave them chances. Again Grindlewald did not. Voldemort was merciful to enemies even Harry. Again Grindlewald did not. However, voldemort was only putting on the charm as most psychopaths do and then he showed his true colors. Not to mention the man can’t say a simple spell and screwed up 😂 Grindlewald was smart. Voldemort was an idiot without a nose 😂 Voldemort’s reckless behavior made him meet his end yet Grindlewald PLANNED YES PLANNED to get caught. Grindlewald even taunted Voldy in the last movie lol 😅 Then Voldy throws a freaking tantrum and gets the heck out of there. I think Voldemort knew he wasn’t the great wizard he thought he was. I would still choose Voldy over Grindlewald though because Voldemort never once harmed an innocent animal and there’s times he was merciful. Grindlewald scares me lol I’m a Gryffindor I’m just saying Grindlewald is far worse. Grindlewald was evil, Voldemort was wicked, lost and a nutcase 😂

[@chrishealton3830]

Didn’t grindelwald allow one of his compatriots to cast the killing curse on an innocent muggle baby? Well, at least he was more successful than Tom in that area, killing kids.

[@aspieangel1988]

@@chrishealton3830Yes that’s horrible too. Gotta give Voldy credit for that. At least he didn’t kill children.

[@liakartika6445]

Umm I think you forgot about the fact that in the first book, Voldemort killed many unicorns so he could drink their blood. Fyi unicorn is the purest and most innocent creature of the Forbidden Forest (?)

[@BossySwan]

He showed Albus his wand

[@drparadox7833]

As historians say: "Dumbledore and Grindelwald were very close friends."

[@kenhammscousin4716]

As historians say, calmly

[@Filmfanatic96]

It baffles me that Voldemort doesn’t want wizard’s mating with muggles and wants it banned but he himself wouldn’t even be alive if that was the case

[@sim7477]

Did he die in that movie?

[@tankemate]

Yes, Voldemort killed him.

[@axozzi3155]

@@tankemate he didn't even lie to him, and Voldemort didn't even kill him

[@TitaNiUm-NaZ]

In the movie grindelwald told voldi where the wand is and and voldi left without killing him … maybe in the books it was the opposite i dint know … never read the books

[@bumzxd]

@@axozzi3155 we’re talking about the books here, not the movies

[@RatPlayer]

He legit says “in the movie”

[@emmettmckenna4565]

What?!?

[@DexterGrifFTW]

I always hated this change in the movies, so many people who watched fantastic beasts and hadn’t read the books would be quite confused at first I’d imagine

[@Realletsplaygrey]

Doesnt grindlewald literally tell him its with albus

[@jedi_wizard]

i think he was just being Grindelwald, he was enjoying making a hard time for lord Voldemort

[@LukeWigginsMusic]

I think grindelwald just had no respect for Voldemort. Compared to himself and dumbledore he was just a selfish boy.

[@Theofficialnatnat]

In Book “I never had it, TOM” **dies** In Movie “It lies with him! Dumbledore.” *laughs and Voldy leaves*

[@CT--fd6gc]

I need to read the books. Just binge watched the movies for the first time. Amazing films, and amazing story. Can't believe I never got into it sooner. Playing Hogwarts legacy made me watch them finally.

[@haliehope7067]

i think it was a combo of reasons. first, tom was some cocky upstart and grindelwald most likely wouldn't like him so why tell some egotistical loon the truth? second, he while evil must still feel gulity about what happened to dumbledore's sister so that might make him protect him in someway. third, while he acted like he didn't care he clearly still cared for dumbledore in some way. and fourth and lastly, what would it do for him if he told tom or voldemort the truth? nothing, so why not make things more difficult.

[@marcelloavanzini5801]

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