Why Did Hungary Join the Axis Powers?

Why Did Hungary Join the Axis? During World War II Hungary joined the Axis Powers in November 1940. This was mostly due to the Treaty of Trianon (1920) that partitioned Hungary. In the interwar years Hungary strengthened his ties with Germany. After the Czechoslovakia partition Hungary fought against the Slovaks and later gained Upper Hungary. Key figure was Miklós Horthy who was the regent of the Kingdom of Hungary. In 1940 Hungary signed the Triparte Pact.
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- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) Hungary (Ignác Romsic).
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[@HistoryHustle]

PLAYLIST about the HISTORY of HUNGARY: kzbin.info/aero/PL_bcNuRxKtpEtGSEzfxyiG6-786SXG4wf

[@finnish5794]

Can you make about the finnish?

[@HistoryHustle]

@@finnish5794 your name says you're a fan? 🤔

[@finnish5794]

@@HistoryHustle will you make vid of finnish ss

[@finnish5794]

@@HistoryHustle fan of what?

[@finnish5794]

@@HistoryHustle if you talking about that yes they were special force. Better trained soldiers

[@AL3NOD1]

Fun fact in Stalingrad The Romanian and Hungarian units had to be separated due to rivalry and infighting which got so bad they had to place a Italian unit between them to separate them

[@aldosigmann419]

They also went at each other pretty good at the battle of Budapest after Romania switched sides.

[@HistoryHustle]

I've heard that as well.

[@billd.iniowa2263]

@@HistoryHustle I believe the Germans placed the Italians between them on the long Northern flank of the Stalingrad area.

[@makachigta5930]

Too cool. Thanks

[@AL3NOD1]

@@billd.iniowa2263 Yeah they did they put an Italian unit In between them thank you for the reminder

[@danielhammersley2869]

There were Hungarian Army units near Warsaw that covered the "flanks" of the Wehrmacht's suppression of the Polish Home Army revolt, but did not actively participate. I saw a video on this on YT once. The Hungarian Officer told the PHA fellow trying to smuggle arms into the city, "Poland and Hungary have never been enemies", and let them pass.

[@HistoryHustle]

Interesting topic! Perhaps something for the future.

[@Bgyarmati]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4qmhJttmriHia8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmSlp5ewo7dsi5o

True story. By the end, Hungarian soldiers gave their own weapons to the Polish. Huns and Polish are two brother nations.

[@danielhammersley2869]

@ exactly. Poland and Hungary have NEVER been at war with one another.

@@danielhammersley2869 I know. I'm Hungarian. :) Lengyel Magyar két jó barát - Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki

[@efka1486]

As a Hungarian, I really appreciate some videos about my nation (well kind of since I am from upper Hungary). Also, your Hungarian pronunciation is very good :).

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you. I do my best. In a few weeks another Hungarian episode.

[@marcoskehl]

Én is. Obrigado! 🇧🇷

[@mulapare2593]

@@HistoryHustle When a Romanian one?

[@efka1486]

@@HistoryHustle You are welcome I am always happy to hear foreigners speak my language :). Also I am excited to see your new video about Hungary.

[@obi-wankenobi1676]

I'm from Székelyföld

[@surinfarmwest6645]

Saturday night with hot chocolate in the tropics and Stefan telling me about Hungary. Thank you so much!

[@HistoryHustle]

Sounds great, the hot chocolate!

[@Airman1121]

Trianon is a wonderful example of diplomacy that kicks the can of conflict down the road a decade or two. Great video! Ik heb er echt van genoten!

[@HistoryHustle]

Great!

[@Hunfootball]

Trianon is still a mistery. Hungary was punished beacuse of WWI but Hungary was not even independent at all since 1526, Austria ruled it. 70% of the lands were given to other countries. And some other countries said Hungary oppressed these minorities (but it's anot a solution to take thos lands away...). Transylvania had only 55% Romanians, they were hardly even majority... Two multicultural countries were formed, Czechoslovakia and "Yugoslavia" rather then the one Hungary... Romania was not the ally of the Allies in WWII, but the enemy... Serbia was weak and in that moment the Croatians fought against Serbians... Czechoslovakia also didn't fight against Germany. The Czechs and Slovaks fought against the Entente in WWI, then why did they get lands from Hungary... Czechoslovakia get Ruthenia, with 1 million people just to be connected with Romania, then after WWII Ruthenia was taken by the SU, then by Ukraine... as still does, 1 million non-Ukrainian lived in Ukraine. The treaty was a disaster for these countires economy (especially Hungary). We Hungarians don't think Trianon was even legal.

[@antoniudraculea4507]

@@Hunfootball ''Hungary was punished beacuse of WWI '' Paul, Trianon didn't create anything, it just recognized an already existing situation. Slovakia, Croatia, Transylvania, Vojvodina, Ruthenia, etc had already seceded from Hungary once the double-monarchy became incapable of holding them in place by violence. What did you want the western allies to do? Send their armies to force the slovaks, romanians, saxons, croatians, etc back into a state that was traditionally tyrannical to them and with which they wanted nothing to do with? ''Hungary was punished beacuse of WWI but Hungary was not even independent at all since 1526, Austria ruled it.'' Hungary gained political rule over itself starting with the 1867 compromise and immediatelly initiated harsh magyarization policies (tyrannical behaviour towards the non-hungarian majority of the hungarian side of A-H). Austria, Germany and the Catholic Church were ''twisting Hungary's arm'' to stop tormenting the romanians in Transylvania (closing their schools en mass, forcefully magyarizing their names, abusively closing their book/newspaper printers (media), making special laws and practices so its far harder for them to vote, arresting their political leaders for complaining about the oppression) because it was turning the Kingdom of Romania from a friend into an enemy. Read Keith Hitchins Romania 1866-1947 Oxford History of Modern Europe. So I find this statement rather unfair since Austria was the one pressuring Hungary to stop mistreating the non-hungarians, while you make it seem like Austria was trying to magyarize the non-hungarians. ''Transylvania had only 55% Romanians'' 57.3% Also you say that as if it was some small amout, it was well above the aboslute majority of the province and over 90% of its territory was romanian majority. On top of that, the german, slavic, gypsy, etc National Gatherings expressed their support for the union with Romania. Overall 75% of Transylvania's inhabitants expressed their support for the union with Romania. Only the hungarian (25% of the population) national gathering in Targu Mures opposed it. ''Romania was not the ally of the Allies in WWII, but the enemy'' Romania was invaded by the USSR and fought back, it never fought against its traditional western allies.

[@dombovar77]

@@antoniudraculea4507 "Paul, Trianon didn't create anything, it just recognized an already existing situation." So why are/were so many hungarians on the other side of the new borders?

[@Hunfootball]

@@antoniudraculea4507 Hungary didn't oppress minorities more than any other countries. It was the most tolerant country in the world. He let so many minorities to settle down without assimilating them that half of the population was not Hungarian. The first minority law in history, and since ca. 1600 total religious freedom. Our neighbours attacked us and wanted our lands, it's not about the minorities, they had no power to get independent. And when some minorites want to join other countries and steal lands, it dosn't mean that it's legal. Nowadays for instance 1.5 million Hungarians in Romania, 800k in Slovakia, etc. would like to join Hungary. As it is with many other counties. By they way 3 million Hungarians could have remained easily in Hungary, many of them lived near the Hungarian border, the Ruthenians laso didn't want to live in Czechoslovakia, and now the poor Ukraine but in Hungary, as even many Slovakians, Germans and others (of course not a single normal German people wanted to live in poor, sauvinistic, anti-Hungarian and - German Romania, they had to join after the Romanians started to occupy Transylvania). Hungary was never independent since 1526, it was ruled by Austria, the Habsburgs. Hungary had the greatest and most successful war of independence in 1848, and din't want Austrian rule. The Hungarian government had no own ministry of defense, foreign policy and economy in 1914-18. Hungary had ca. 50% Hungarian population, together with other friendly minorities, Germans, jews, 1 million Ruthenians, many Slavs and Romanians it had to be at least 60-70%. 57% Romanians in Transylvania is not much more than 50% (and less than 60%). So we can say that the majority didn't want to separate in Hungary. Even nowadays a part of Transylvania is 80-90% Hungarian. So why don't they get independence? By the way long before the so called brutal "magyarization" many minorities fought against their own country, Romanians killed 8000 Hungarian civilians, often attacked villages where the Hungarian army was far from. Serbian beheaded thousands of Hungarians. So these minorities were brutal to the Hungarians, more than "magyarization".

[@DavidJones-oc3up]

Great video. Thanks for the research. Budapest is one of my favorite cities in Europe, and I like learning about Hungarian history. Thanks again.

[@HistoryHustle]

That's great to read, David. Appreciate your reply. Budapest indeed is a great city!

[@DavidJones-oc3up]

@@Optimistic7718 Thanks 😊

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

Love your videos! Thanks for the video History Hustle! You should maybe do a series on each of the countries. So Thailand, Japan. Finland (ish) Romania Italy Bulgaria (ish) I think that would be interesting. Keep up the great work!

[@HistoryHustle]

Awesome! Won't run out on things to cover anytime soon ;)

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@@HistoryHustle hehe😤

[@kampfgruppepeiper501]

Really interesting video! I studied in Budapest for school & really enjoyed the country & the people! Thank you for this great topic!

[@HistoryHustle]

Cool country indeed (apart from some aspects concerning equal rights of some people). Hopefully soon more about its history.

[@karlheven8328]

@@HistoryHustle to my knowledge all people in Hungary have equal rights.

[@alien332]

@@HistoryHustle In Hungary, all people have equal rights. The media is shame, a propaganda machine. If you dont believe it, come to Hungary and see it for yourself. But please, don't spread misinformation, because your content as a historian is good, try to stay factual if you have a political opinion (because its not a "human right" case, I studied EU, international and domestic law).

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

Thank you for covering areas that are too often ignored in the English Speaking world. By accident or design, these areas are often ignored, at best a footnote, at worst a punchline in our history teaching. In this case, a Kingdom without a King run by an Admiral without a Navy, declaring war on nations it has no not territorial ambition against, but with some of its allies, it has several territorial ambitions.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you, Jon-Paul.

[@istvanpleyer6699]

As a Hungarian (kind of ethnic German-Hungarian) historian I say many thanks for your videos which are dedicated to Hungarian topics- and indeed, the role of the Hungarian Kingdom in the WW2 should be better known in the European historical discussion, but the key factor of the Hungarian partification on the side of the Axis powers was undoubtedly the hope of the territorial revision of the Treaty of Trianon (along with other geopolitical-cultural circumstances). In general, we could rank the wartime East-Central European states according to "dependency-levels": Romania and Hungary had much in common regarding governmental-domestic-foreign political independence (until 1944 at least), while the NDH-Croatia and Slovakia are considered to be as prime examples of puppet statehood, however, the differences between them are also significant (the pre-war power base of the State Party, the Ludak-Party, voluntary-involuntary military participation on the Eastern Front, moving space in their foreign policy, etc.). The German-Hungarian-Slovakian diplomatic triangle is also a very interesting part of this time period (maximisation of the territorial revision in Upper Hungary/Slovakia on the Hungarian side, and the fear of this at the Slovaks, Germany as a mediator between them) . So dank u wel noogmals and maybe you could make a vid about the Ethnic German units of the Waffen-SS/Wehrmacht (Prinz Eugen, Maria Theresia SS-Divisions, etc.), too- they had a special role in the "Europavorstellung" of the Nazi pan-Germanism, just like the Dutch-Flemish volunteers and "Germanic colonists" of the East.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you for taking the time to watch this video and writing a response and sharing your insights. I have more to cover on Hungary. This Summer for sure another video about the country's role in WW2 will come online. For now I have this playlist for you - in case you're interested - about Dutch Waffen-SS volunteers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mILPd2OflpJ0eKM

[@chrislock4716]

Your 7:31 video led me down the rabbit hole to 4 hours of reading about this subject. I learned something today, thanks!

[@HistoryHustle]

Great!

[@tomfaz4193]

Thank you for this informative video on Hungary and Eastern Europe. As a Hungarian American I appreciate the information your video provided. These facts are hard to come by in English since I forget how to read in Hungarian. Keep up your good works!

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. There is much more on Hungarian history on this channel 👍

[@thanos_6.0]

Very interesting. Thanks for covering this topic

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks as always!

[@keithehredt753]

Thanks, Great coverage sir

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for replying, Keith!

[@luishernandezblonde]

I'm Polish and I blame Trianon for this. Hungary joined Hitler because of bullying diplomacies of France and Britain after WWI. It should have never existed overall. By the way, despite on Germany side, Hungarian troops refused to suppress Poles in Warsaw Uprising. 🇵🇱❤️🇭🇺

[@HistoryHustle]

Interesting aspect of the war. Guess that's why they kept being friends.

[@LegionnaireScout]

Well, good to know that as a slovak I should not exist

[@KR-mm4el]

Hungary refused to accept their new borders so they wanted to regain their old borders after ww1 ended. Of course france will partition Hungary that is belligerent

[@ferim150]

@@LegionnaireScout That's not what he meant. Even if Slovakia was owned by Hungary today, you would still exist.

[@HaartieeTRUE]

@@ferim150 "Even if hungary was owned by romania today, you would still exist" this is how you sound

[@lhistorien8740]

Excellent! An episode about Bulgaria will be also very interesting.

[@HistoryHustle]

Have a short one of mine for you right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmPSoIqXpNuCmpY

[@lhistorien8740]

@@HistoryHustle Thanks. I've already watched it few months ago! Expose the reigns of Ferdinand and Boris III will be very useful for a lot of people to remember or learn what was until 1944 the "Prussia of the Balkans".

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Your map in background made it very easy to understand 😎

[@HistoryHustle]

Great! Glad to use it.

[@molnaroliver3914]

Thank you for the amazing work and research. As a Hungarian speaking of Trianon always makes me feel sad 😢

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply!

[@xvsj5833]

My Grand Papa he was forced to join at gun point 💙 Stephon fascinating research 💙 Thank you for sharing 💪 : ) Jesse

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing, Jesse!

[@albertarthurparsnips5141]

Yet ANOTHER stellar piece of work, on a sadly-neglected sector of Eastern European and Balkan history. Congratulations, and many, many thanks, sir !

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you, Albert!

[@billd.iniowa2263]

"Oh give me land, lotsa land with the starry skies above. Don't fence me in..."

[@HistoryHustle]

That's where it came down to...

[@balfake3117]

There's a running joke about Hungary declaring war on the USA in December 1941. A secretary goes to the president: - Mr. President, the Hungarians just declared war on us! - Oh my, just what we needed after Pearl Harbor. Where's this Hungary? - In Eastern Europe, the kingdom of Hungary. - So who's the king? - They don't have a king, just a governor. Rear admiral Vitéz Nagybányai Horthy Miklós. - A rear admiral? They have a navy? - They don't even have a sea. - Do they have any territorial claims on us? - No, they have territorial claims against Romania, Czechoslovakia and Austria. - So they're enemies? - Nope, these are their allies.

[@HistoryHustle]

Lol, 🤣

[@robertm.8653]

Thanks for this insightful video !

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you, Robert!

[@janherburodo8070]

Very interesting video. Getting closer and closer to 100k subscribers, congratulations! Hope you'll hit it before the end of the year

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks Jan. Glad you're still on board. Hopefully we will reach 100K this year! :)

[@GunDrummer]

Another solid video

[@HistoryHustle]

👍👍👍

[@jamesgibbs7872]

This is all very interesting factual information and brings to light the complex details of how Germany controlled Eastern Europe during WWII. Thank you for bringing History to Life and making sense of WWII Actions and Alliances/Pacts.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you, James.

[@marcelgroen6256]

Een -voor mij- wat onbekender onderdeel van de 2e WO. Dank voor delen, Stefan.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍👍👍

[@berendko7266]

This channel is such an epic powerhouse of knowledge to me. I just felt obliged to say that.

[@HistoryHustle]

Great, many thanks 🙂

[@attilademko2601]

Few important facts. Horthy, a noble, a believer and a former admiral, commander of the Austro-Hungarian navy personally despised Hitler, saw him as an upstart, non-believer, and dangerous person. No love lost there, Hitler despised Horthy too. The first Vienna award terrirory had a huge Hungarian majority. Carpathia in 39 was a military operation -Hungarians were a small minority. Norhern Transylvania had around as many Hungarians as Romanians - but about 400 000 Hungarians remained in Southern Transylvania. So beyond the Ukrainian inhabited parts of Subcarpathia, all territorial changes were justifiable based on the ethnic principle and on the fact that these areas belonged to HU till 1918 since the 9th century.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thank you for sharing this additional information.

[@utkarshchoudhary3870]

I always had questions on why hungary joined the Axis. I really wanna thank you Stef for this great video!

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Hunfootball]

Yes, Hungary had to join, because Germany gave lands back to us and Romania joined the Axis too, so Romania could maybe get back later upper Transylvania. But Hungarians also symphatized with the Germans, they had the same injustice in 1918, they were on the same side, and they had similar values. (By the way the leading politicians often hated Germans as Horthy did.) Even when Horthy wanted to switch side like the Romanians did, the Hungarians and the army resisted. Before it when the Germans occupied Hungary there were almost no resistance. But Hungary fought against the attacking Soviets. By the way Horthy was not a great patriot, he could easily attack Serbia and Czechoslovakia when the Germans asked for it and then Hungary could get much larger lands back, but he was just a corrupt politician as always. As the leaders in 1918. Hungary had 1 million soldiers... they dissolved the army, then the Romanians could occupy Hungary with little forces and Hungary lost many lands.

[@olivermcmeans2166]

Not many people talk about this. Thank you!

[@HistoryHustle]

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[@orionroberts7971]

Your a Kool dude, thanks for making videos bro !!

[@HistoryHustle]

Cheers man!

[@eralasch]

Nice cap. Reminds me on the brave soldier Schwejk.-)

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks.

[@militaryorchid7937]

Clever, clear, nice presentation. Congrats! Probably, because of the url-link, my previous remark did not pass, but I would also recommend for the greater public a work of John F. Montgomery (Hungary: The Unwilling Satellite).

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply.

[@hameddadgour]

Great video! Thank you for sharing.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍👍👍

[@AnnalOfHistory]

Wonderful video as always my friend! To think, had Bethlen not resigned, or his successor Gyula Károlyi been more competent, then Hungary may not have allied itself with Germany at all, and worked their way into the anti-Bulgarian alliance with little entente members.

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks Tipsyfish!

[@wernergruen3943]

then bulgaria would have joined the axis way early, another war on the balkans and the germans steamrolling all of them to aid bulgaria. a mere inconvenience for germany and the occupation of the balkans before 1941.

[@Hunfootball]

Hungary had no chance, we get many lands from Germany, our enemy, Romania joined Germany, we were a little country, cound not resist against Germany in a war (Germany later occupied Hungary too).

[@xerxen100]

There was not a single politician who want to be anti-bulgarian, when Hungarys nation hate the little antant, and think of the Bulgars like brothers.

[@A_10_PaAng_111]

Szervusz or Viszont Látásra is Goodbye in Hungarian.

[@HistoryHustle]

Viszontlátásra!

[@marcoskehl]

Köszönöm! Obrigado! 🇧🇷

[@pliedtka]

Eggeszsegedre or ... - this one is the best ;) we always laugh when having a beer with Magyar friends, Na zdrowie

[@Cjnw]

From the Latin, Servus (Servant)

[@DM-nl7kf]

@@Cjnw Right!

[@Adrian-ju7cm]

Thanks for the video

[@HistoryHustle]

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[@novadhd]

Thank you . It is very interesting history with Hungary/Romania. My grandfather was from Transylvania, fought in the underground and went out to survive the camps.

[@HistoryHustle]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing this.

[@aranos6269]

Interesting how Hungary taking over ruthenia and bit of Slovakia is hardly a footnote. Lads in those territories were drafted to Hungarian army, so quite a lot ran away to ussr. For illegal crossing of ussr border got 8 years in gulag. During wwii they were offered a chance to go home. What they discovered on saying yes to "do you want to go home?" that going home involved fighting alongside red army in Czechoslovak units.

[@HistoryHustle]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing this.

[@aranos6269]

@@HistoryHustle just an example how seemingly small details contain huge tragedies on personal scale. Those lads would have preferred picking fruit and chasing girls rather than having to chose fighting and dying for one psycho or another

[@bendeguzdobo.b.4750]

You're an idiot. Those areas have been Hungarian since ancient times, which we did not take over, but took back. Look at the Trianon "peace" dictation of how Hungary was treated.

[@bendeguzdobo.b.4750]

@@aranos6269 Your knowledge is very superficial. If I remember correctly, Communism was realized by a Slavic country, Nazism and Fascism by a Germanic (and Italian) country (Indo-Europeans) and spread by fire and iron - in which not only Hungarians but also Czechs, Romanians and other peoples he also took his share of the waist. There is nothing to throw at each other's eyes. But the natives of the Carpathian Basin (who spoke the ancient Hungarians, since they were descendants of the Scythians) understood the Huns (our brother people) understood the Hungarians, and eventually melted into them. Thus, the Hungarian tribal alliance did not occupy a place, but returned to its brothers. There is no place or time to describe this in detail, but you can look it up. Romania did not exist then. Ancient Dacia has nothing to do with today's Romanians, it is a delusion (You can even see it on wikipedia.) The spread of Slavs is also a mistake: every nation living here had its own servants, (Latin slavus = servant) who later organized into a people. Watch the results of archeology and genetics and you can be sure.

[@bendeguzdobo.b.4750]

@@aranos6269 I know how reliable the Wiki is. But in proportion to your post, I wanted to recommend the appropriate level.

[@lilalali6753]

As a Hungarian, I think this video is correct. Good work! And Hungary will be great again! It is unavoidable.

[@HistoryHustle]

For sure, thanks for your reply!

[@militaryorchid7937]

Probably, another very interesting presentation when one wants to uinderstand the effects of the Trianon treaty: THE BIRTH OF A NEW WORLD - 1918-1923 by Schmidt, Mária. I love the author very much, though I have not read her present volume. And a very thorough author, though I know another book of him: Ziedler, Miklós: Ideas on Territorial Revision in Hungary, 1920-1945.

[@HistoryHustle]

Okay, thanks for sharing.

[@mikehydropneumatic2583]

Another great video.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks as always, Mike!

[@gibraltersteamboatco888]

Fantastic video. BZ The term “axis” of power had been proposed by Hungarian Prime Minister Gyula Gombos who had hoped to create this between his nation, Italy and Germany in the 1930s. By 1939 Germany accounted for over half of Hungary's imports and exports. When you dance with the devil he always leads,

[@corneliuscapitalinus845]

Picture Adolf ballroom dancing with Horthy. Or a gypsy girl.

[@gibraltersteamboatco888]

@@corneliuscapitalinus845 There is that picture with Hitler and Horthy in the back of the open car, they make a nice couple

[@HistoryHustle]

Didn't know this, thanks for sharing Gibralter!

[@benjaminkurilla3943]

There was another thing here: The economic ties. After the Treaty of Trianon, Hungary lost the majority of it's industrial zones and became a mostly agrarian country, and it was Germany who bought most of it's export products.

[@HistoryHustle]

True, Hungary wanted to gain these territories back for both national prestige and economic reasons.

[@thomasgonzalez7133]

Stefan, another fine video. I am curious about the hat you wore in the video. What can you tell us about it?

[@HistoryHustle]

It's a repro of a German WW1 cap, but looks kinda similar to the Austro-Hungarian WW1 cap.

[@diolaneiuma215]

I love miklos horthy, he’s one of my favorite historical figures of all time!

[@HistoryHustle]

Okay, please explain.

[@diolaneiuma215]

@@HistoryHustle Alright so one time he had Szalasi arrested and when he was at an event or something one day, a bunch of people were chanting “Justice for Szalasi!!” Horthy ended up getting into a fight and grabbed a sympathizer by the neck and was like, “SO YOU DARE BETRAY YOUR COUNTRY DO YOU??” It was so cool you gotta read about it!! en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikl%C3%B3s_Horthy

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing this.

[@diolaneiuma215]

@@HistoryHustle =)

[@thebigone6071]

You’re the greatest guy in world history!!!!

[@HistoryHustle]

😎👍

[@ganapatihegde1024]

Very nice vlog! I am your new subscriber.

[@HistoryHustle]

Great, welcome to the channel!

[@knightro4735]

Nice vid, viszlát!

[@HistoryHustle]

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[@sojnab1]

That was good and informative.Nice cap.Is it Hungarian?

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. The cap is actually German!

[@sonatine3266]

Love to Hungary from Germany! We share a lot of historical things (best example is food) and every Hungarian I ever met was super humble and smart.

[@HistoryHustle]

Ok👍

[@thedarkness3766]

Hungarian here! Love back from Hungary to Germany! Mein Großvater kämpfte im 2. Weltkrieg gemeinsam mit deutschen Truppen und lebte eine Zeitlang in Deutschland, nachdem Krieg. Er hat uns die deutsche Sprache mitgebracht und ich befasste mich mit der Sprache selber privat, um sie zu lernen und irgendwann mal flüssig sprechen zu können. Wie du sagtest, wir haben viele Gemeinsamkeiten, historisch, sowie kulturell.

[@marcoskehl]

Dank je! Thank you! Köszönöm! Obrigado! 🇧🇷

[@HistoryHustle]

Cheers!

[@caslinden1373]

Weer een interessante video man 👍

[@HistoryHustle]

Dank!

[@hank780]

Great video. Indeed, the Treaty ofTrianon (though I wouldn't call it a treaty, rather a dictat) was a big (if not THE) reason we joined WW2 on the Axis side. Not if we had much (or any) choice in the matter. Horthy was antikommunist, so there was no chance for an alliance with them, and we tried to join the allies, but because the allies at that time implemented the policy of appeasement, we were drawn closer to the Third Reich. But just because we joined the Axis, that doesn't mean we were fully commited to their side. The poles are a good example of that. During the german invasion of Poland, we refused to paricipate in it, and we hid many poles during the war. Also, pursued armed neutrality and probably wouldn't enter WW2 on our own volition if it weren't for the controvesial bombing of Kassa, which probably was an accidental soviet bombing. A little fun fact: General Franco, after he won the Spanish civil war, sent the Azul (or blue) Division, their volunteer force, to fight on the Eastern front. In 1956, when the hungarian revolution happened, Franco wanted to send 100 000 volunteers to help us, but the USA said no to that (for understandable reasons). Many soldiers of that volunteer force served in the Azul Division

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing this additional information.

[@anonymousphantom9644]

Hungary is one of Germany's forgotten allies.

[@HistoryHustle]

Many people indeed don't know about it. Most people only remind Italy and Japan.

[@molnaroliver3914]

Hmm yes it was formally allied with Germany. However I’d not say that the Hungarian government supported Hitler’s ideologies.

[@gabork5055]

Not really good allies though. Hitler hated the Austro-Hungarian Empire, according to some theories the reason was his abusive father who was a local minor official in the Monarchy when he still lived there. I'm not sure but i think he even wrote about it in Mein Kampf. He also sacrificed an entire poorly equipped Hungarian division near the river Don to save time for the Germans. (or so goes the story) Gave order to forcefully repatriate Hungarian-Germans and take all our property Stalin-style, i can imagine their fate knowing my great-grandfather ended up on the Eastern-front. Made a dent on the country-s reputation by installing the pro-fascist Szálasi-government which caused many atrocities after deporting Horthy-s family and killing one of his sons . (and yet for some reason there's still clueless and willfully ignorant people blaming it all on Horthy)

[@Hunfootball]

I don't think so, Hungary was the most loyal and the very last ally of Germany, even when Horthy wanted to switch side, the Hungarian nation resisted it, the Hungarians were on Germans' side. Here in Hungary the communists said we were Germany's last satellite.

[@nicolaeadrian7882]

@@Hunfootball NO... THE GERMANS INVADED HU SO THEY DONT CHANCE

[@omarkomiha9429]

Good video, and nice M43 cap

[@HistoryHustle]

Cheers!

[@AveSequoia]

I always thought because they were so close to the axis powers and thier allies that they joined out of survivorship and not being invaded

[@HistoryHustle]

By who? Hungary's prominent reason was to revise the Trianon borders.

[@A_10_PaAng_111]

@@HistoryHustle And because Hungarian politicians were staunch Anti Communists.

[@lordpolish2727]

i would say, as the comments above show, its all three 1. Prevent German invasion (if your an ally to Germany they cant invade you, usually) 2. use German support to retake lost Hungarian land 3. Similar anti communist views But even then relations werent great, for example Hungary refused to let German troops in to invade Poland from the south, in fact thousands of Polish refugees and soldiers fled to Hungary, with soldiers being interned and later "escaping" where they could join up in the west

[@Hunfootball]

I think as a Hungarian that Transylvania was very important. We get back half of it, but Romania joined the Axis (I don't know when). Hitler could easily take back Transylvania and give it back to Romania, and Hungary was not sympathetic to Hitler. Horthy and other didn't like Germany, many Hungarian politician was pro-English. Althought Hitler gave many lands. Hungary also had 1 million Israelite community, far the biggest in the area (or in the world), and Hitler was anti-semitic as hell. We had to fight after the German help for reunite with Upper Hungary, Ruthenia, Upper Transylvania, etc. We were exactly between the SU and Germany, sooner or later we would be occupied by Germany if not joining them. I repeat, Horthy hated Germany but had to support Hitler. By the way in March 1944 when Hitler had suspicion that Hungary wants to quit the war or switch sides or else, the German forces occupied the country. But it was not a war, in Hungary we say they just "come in". (Fight would have been useless, and Hungary worked togerther with Germany in that time.)

[@ferencbencsik1149]

Actually the West wanted to remove Hungary 100% off the map in Trianon... It was actually an economic execution... But, anyhow, a miracle happened by the leadership of Horthy and Betlehen soon after 1920. And really, Germany was the most important economic partner of Hungary. It was Germany, for example, who explored and mined the first Hungarian oil fields, right after 1920. It was extremely important and profitable for both country. And machine industry, etc. Nevertheless, Horthy was absolutely a moderate man, and the only reason to cooperate with Hitler was the territorial revision. He didn't like Hitler and the nazis, neither the German nazis, nor the Hungarian leaded by Szálasi. He wanted to jump out of this tie with Germany in 1944, but Hitler kidnapped his son, and took him to Dachau. Game was over. Horthy resigned, and soon he was internated to Germany together with his family. As of that moment, in the last month of the war the country was controlled by the Germany backed Hungarian nazis, and lots of jews were taken away. But Horthy actually saved thousands of jewish life formerly.

[@HistoryHustle]

Not sure about your first statement, so if you have some sources on it, feel free to share!

[@ferencbencsik1149]

@@HistoryHustle Actually the Axis Powers won the war in the end of 1916.... This was the big problem, first of all to the US, which invested a lot, i.e. loaned a lot into France and UK... How to get back the money? That was the point, when the US entered more seriously into the war... The end, we know... For the US the most important was to burst the Middle European power, the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, to create a puffer zone between Germany and Russia... (it was the same in the II. WW, and even today...). To achieve this goal they applied the good old recipe: devide, and manipulate... They created 2 dozens of small countries in the Eastern Central Europe, instead of one big power... For UK, and especially for France the most important was to pay back the money to the US, therefore they were ready to make dirty deals with the so called new nations (which never established a country before in the history, the Small Antant, like Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Serbia) to give them huge portions of the territory of historical Hungary, in exchange they had to pay the levy... France and UK exploited the incredible hatred, the generated nationalism and shovinism in these Small Antant countries, which were unimaginably impudent and greedy... they wanted to have even the most of the currently existing Hungary as well.... The Romanians demanded the lands till the river Tisa in East, Serbs and Czechs demanded the whole Pannonia (west from the river Duna), and the Slovaks wanted all the mountains in the North... it was so disgusting, that sometimes it was too much even to the stomach of the Brits... France... let me not to speak in detail about them, cause I can even hardly moderate myself... In the end of the day, after a sort of queasy and humiliating one-way discussion, the Hungarian diplomats could achieve the result, what we know today as Hungary...

[@starrynight1657]

@@ferencbencsik1149 America was the only country that really benefitted from the 20th century.

[@sandorharaszti4359]

@@starrynight1657 and Romania

[@leme5639]

@@HistoryHustle he is lying. Horthy was installed by Romanian or Slovaks, after they defeated Hungary in war.

[@pedrogonzalesgonzales5097]

Here’s a footnote. Rumanian Jews largely survived the War. But those in areas given back to Hungary did not

[@HistoryHustle]

Not sure about the Romanian Jews, many were targetted by the Iron Guard early in the war. Hungarian Jews weren't deported until the end of the war when Germany took over.

[@pedrogonzalesgonzales5097]

@@HistoryHustle The Iron Guard was a Hungarian organisation. As far as I know it did not operate in Rumania

[@HistoryHustle]

I'm afraid you confuse it with the Arrow Cross which was from Hungary. The Iron Guard operated in Romania.

[@pedrogonzalesgonzales5097]

@@HistoryHustle yes, you’re right. But it is true that Rumanian Jews and Bulgarian Jews had the highest survival rate in Europe

[@HistoryHustle]

Danish too.

[@jamesbodnarchuk3322]

Interesting!

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@nomadicmarc]

❤ What uniform are you wearing?

[@HakapesziM]

My both grandfathers fought on the Eastern Front. Easy to ask: Why Hungary joined to the German side? After the Treaty of Trianon what should we have done? To be friends with Western Europe, France etc? They helped to cut Hungary to pieces! Join to the neighbor countries, the Little Entente? But they got our territories! There was no choice, only Mussolini's Italy, and, from '33 -'34 Hitler' s Germany as ally.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. What can you tell us of your grandfathers experiences? How did they reflect on the war? Love to know.

[@HakapesziM]

@@HistoryHustle They had no choice. Back then, everybody expected a quick win on the side of the Wehrmacht. In the beginning Hitler had successes. Hungary got back few territories, which were taken away after WWI. The people were optimistics. Worth to read the book of Horthy's daughter - in - law, 'Becsület és Kötelesség' in Hungarian. Only few officer dared to say loudly, Hitler going to lose the war. The simply soldiers, and jews in forced labor units had no choice. One of my grandfather was a military driver. He got captured, served a few years as POW in Russia, got sick, and sent home with a transport. He was lucky. My other grandfather was a tricky guy, he retreated, and ended up somewhere in Austria. My grandmother found him by the help of Red Cross - the old guy lived with an other woman already...My grandma brought home the brave, lost soldier by his ear. That generation suffered a lot. Poverty, than the war, the '50s, communist tines, the revolution in '56. Imagine this: in Hungary, in the 20th century 5 - 6 prime ministers were executed. At least 2 million people died violently. A country of 10 million people.

[@xerxen100]

@Super Mario And today Transylvaia is Romanian Colony. Infrastrukture is shit, like everything else...

[@xerxen100]

@Super Mario Transylvania was always the most richest region of Hungary....and yes, Transylvania is developing fast, but it seems you dont know that it payed by Hungary. Euro billions spent to the Transylvanian infrastrukture by Hungary, like all surrounding territory. Dont worry, the Romanian government informed, and accepted this.

[@brozjoszip6401]

@@HakapesziM sorry, but somehow it is only 9.7 million. Már jóval kevesebb, mint 10 millió. Csak ugye ezt tanultuk...

[@captainsponge7825]

as they say - caught between the rock and a hard place

[@HistoryHustle]

More or less.

[@Cjnw]

Or Iraq and hard place

[@64maxpower]

I really enjoy the history you cover and the honesty of your work. We see tons of videos about Germany after defeat but hardly anything about Japan. I find it difficult to believe dropping an atomic bomb on the heads of a fanatical military made everyone peaceful unicorns eating ice cream. There must have been thousands of Japanese Werewolves To me the Japanese at that time weren't so humble about losing to the Round Eye American.. And it's my opinion that the US military cashed in on Japanese assets like gold and money. And no one talked about it to keep attention on other problems of the time Id like to see you cover Patton and the people he pissed off. There were lots of people other than Adolf that didn't like Patton. It's my opinion that he was politely asked to quiet down by running a truck into his staff car

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. Much more to cover in the future yes.

[@GaborKover2001]

Hello. Can you put Hungarian subtitles in the video? I want to watch it, but I don't understand English

[@HistoryHustle]

See if I can do that.

[@Denielo5]

"You just dig the grave of Hungary, but Hungary will be at the funeral of France, England."

[@HistoryHustle]

Who said this?

[@Denielo5]

@@HistoryHustle count Albert Apponyi about trianon.

[@antoniudraculea4507]

Always appreciate your videos mr Hustler but there's one mistake that stud out and that I would like to note: 1:13 ''Romania got Transylvania with some 1.6 million hungarians living in it''. You had 1.6 million people who commonly spoke hungarian (this is what the 1910 hungarian census asked, it did not ask about ethnicity). This does not mean that they were hungarian, just like the irish or scots are not english because they commonly speak english. Only 1.3 out of those 1.6 hungarian speakers were in fact hungarian ethnics. The rest were jews, gypsies and notable numbers of germans, romanians and slavs who commonly spoke hungarian despite not being hungarian ethnics (usually because they lived in an urban enviroment).

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing this. I read what I read, so I guess my source wasn't too specific on it.

[@efplanet2337]

Most of the population in Hungary spoke Hungarian on a certain level, it cannot be the basis of the census figure. And a substantial part spoke German on a certain level, because German was the official language in Hungary until early 1840s. City dwellers spoke typically more than two languages, for example my grandfather born in 1880s spoke 5 languages on a daily basis. Austro-Hungarian monarchy was a forerunner of multilingual EU. Nationalistic aspirations were amplified by Entente tactics during WW1, as part of enemy desintegration and destruction.

[@antoniudraculea4507]

@@HistoryHustle And I thank you for your videos sir. Keep up the hard work. Much support and appreciation from Romania.

[@swinfeflue]

So how come there were 1.6 milliom hungarians at the end of 1990? We are now 1.2 million

[@antoniudraculea4507]

@@swinfeflue For the same reason the number of romanians in Transylvania also greatly decreased. Because the peoples form the former eastern block started moving towards the east en mass.

[@Arcangel77able]

Hi Stephan. I don't know which territorial situation (dismemberment) was worse: the Hungarian between the wars or the Romanian of 1939/40. Hungary, due to its geographical position, was very sensitive to Berlin, in fact, it will be the last German ally (satellite), it will keep fighting until 05/09/45, its forces fight even from Czechoslovakia, having already lost everything, its National territory , at the hands of the " 2st and 3rd Soviet Ukrainian Fronts. Not even the coup to surrender at the end of 1944 did the trick. Germany stifled Horthy and held Hungary to its side until the end.

[@HistoryHustle]

Good question. For sure the Hungarians remember it more.

[@mammuchan8923]

Very insightful video.👍 Seems they Treaty of Trianon was one of the most controversial to emerge from the peace negotiations after the FWW. I can imagine there was a lot of bitterness and strong desire to regain the lost territory. Thanks for the link to the playlist, I enjoyed the recap ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. One confusing thing to me is why they carried on as a Kingdom, with a Regent but no plans to ever put someone in the throne?

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply. Good question. I actually don't know myself. I think the Hungarians had some hopes for a restoration of the kingdom. Actually, this is covered here on the Great War channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqLKlHd-eNueb6s

[@mammuchan8923]

@@HistoryHustle thanks Stefan, good point, I have put all the “Treaties” and onwards episodes of TGW on my to do list😎

[@brozjoszip6401]

Hungarians never wanted a Habsburg king, but legally he, Habsburg Karl Jozef was the Hungarian king. After the I. WW, in 1921 he wanted to get beck to the throne, but the majority of the country did not want him back any more, plus France, Britain did not want to get a Habsburg back to the throne. By the time some Hungarian could have been king, revolutions broke out (1918, 1919). After that France and Britain supported Horthy as a moderate solution (he could show order, when the communists made revolution in 1919, and when the Romanians attacked Hungary. ) Horthy said he can not have the Hungarian holy crown on his head, because he is not catholic, but he was protestant. So easy.

[@mammuchan8923]

@@brozjoszip6401 thanks for the detail 👍👍

[@bryanfarts822]

I think with Communism rising and stronger then ever the memory of the Hungarian Soviet Republic was still to fresh in the minds of the Hungarians. Surprised you didn't mention the pact between Hungary,Austria and Italy and their attempt to stabilize Central Europe away from German influence. As some other commentators mentioned and how here in the states we are taught to vote for the lesser of two evils. Many of these nations saw a better future with Germany winning then the Soviet Union. Also many of these nations saw France and England as being controlled by Freemasonry. We shouldn't be so quick to judge.

[@bryanfarts822]

@@hansgruber650 Sure, nobody likes Communism not even the Russians.

[@HistoryHustle]

@Bryan: what pact?

[@bryanfarts822]

@@HistoryHustle Rome Protocals. 1934. Mussolini and Dolfuss were very good friends. Mussolini made every attempt to keep Dolfuss in power in Austria. Mussolini even mobilized troops to protect Austria when Dolfuss was assassinated by the Germans. Unfortunately the Italians were not powerful enough to keep the German government from overthrowing the Fatherland Front in Austria. Like their Hungarian counterparts Mussolini chose the Germans instead of Communism/ Freemasonry.

[@67claudius]

@@bryanfarts822 Mussolini changed his mind towards France and the United Kingdom after the Ethiopian War and approached Nazi Germany which was friendly with Italy. This is why Mussolini abandoned Dolfuss, as Hitler had become a good friend. On the other hand, Fascism and Nazism had many points in common and Hitler admired Mussolini

[@bryanfarts822]

@@67claudius Your theory sounds good the only problem it lacks truth. Dolfuss had already been killed before the Italian/ Ethiopian war. If you actually read my response you see I made it clear that Mussolini mobilized troops to protect Austria from German invasion after Dolfuss assassination. Your half right in the relationship between Italy,England and France. Ethiopia was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Again if you read what I said and didn't just comment back I already explained why Italy and Hungary started to lean towards Germany. Fascism and National Socialism is two different ideologies. I agree with you only on one point and that is Hitler admired Mussolini. Your comment smells of purposeful disinformation. For your sake I hope your truly just misinformed.

[@McIntyreBible]

3:52, why Hitler really didn't want to support Hungary.

[@HistoryHustle]

I explain it in the video. It was a power game.

[@McIntyreBible]

@@HistoryHustle I wasn't asking a question sir, I was just posting WHY Hitler didnt want to support....

[@RazboiulInformational]

The Treaty of Trianon only confirmed the independence decisions formulated by the nations that were part of Austro-Hungary. and later their decision to unite with the mother countries. This aspect is always forgotten in discussions of the Trianon. Decisions such as the resolution of the conference of oppressed nations held in Croatia Pula

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing.

[@Vincentzw]

Just curious, where are you from/what’s your ethnicity? You have a very interesting accent that’s hard to place.

[@HistoryHustle]

Dutch🇳🇱

[@Vincentzw]

@@HistoryHustle oh nice! My girlfriend is of Dutch ancestry.

[@martonsoos2953]

Vesszen trianon! Mindent vissza!🇭🇺🔥🇭🇺❤🇭🇺

[@HistoryHustle]

I see...

[@NORBERTMESTER]

Máshogy nem is lehet!

[@royalzak2670]

Hungary is based to this day.

[@HistoryHustle]

🇭🇺👍

[@mikewest5529]

Ohhhh man that was GOOD!! Thanks for some cultural history!! Just a lonely Hungarian that know nothing of his history! Thanks again for another great production!! Can’t wait for the next one!!

[@HistoryHustle]

Many thanks as always, Mike! Hope to cover more on Hungary in WW2 in the future. This Summer one more video will be uploaded. After Summer hopefully more soon.

[@mathiaspoelman1493]

I really wonder what could have been if the so-called "peace treaties" imposed by the entente had been a bit more fair.

[@HistoryHustle]

Think WWII wouldve been less likely.

[@mathiaspoelman1493]

@@HistoryHustle Very much so. Oh, and I just saw your video about the Walloon Legion. Gonna check it out soon!

[@berettaxd7566]

Because they were smart?

[@HistoryHustle]

Well... Looking at the results after 1945.

[@nicolaeadrian7882]

@@HistoryHustle IF THEY DIDNT JOIN THE AXIS HUNGARY WILL BE EVEN BE ON THE MAP ANYMORE

[@bobross8786]

Because Hungry didn't want to get the Polish treatment 😉

[@HistoryHustle]

Well, there wasn't a direct threat for them. Revision of Trianon was the prime motivation.

[@bobross8786]

@@HistoryHustle Thank you for your response . LOVE YOUR CHANNEL 👍

[@draganfoljan7806]

Good video,I have Hungarian friends from Romania . Go figure 👍🏻

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply.

[@alswann2702]

Thailand vs. Vichy Vietnam would be interesting. Ditto for Vichy Caribbean islands and possible resupplying of U boats there.

[@HistoryHustle]

Perhaps in the future some day.

[@woff1959]

I notice you didn't mention that Hungary signed the 'Treaty' under a starvation blockade, that killed hundreds of thousands. You failed to mention the brutality of Hungary successor states, which caused over 400,000 Hungarians to flee. These lived in railway trucks for years. You also failed to mention the anti-Hungarian behaviour of the Allies, for instance, in not allowing Hungary to take part in the Olympics or in the League of Nations. Maybe those help viewers understand why Hungary ended up joining those who were not bent on her destruction.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing this additional information.

[@woff1959]

@@HistoryHustle You're welcome. There is so much more. Hungary just drew the short end of the stick in 1918/20. A scholar by the name of Géza Jeszenszky has studied how Hungary, which was the darling of the British newspapers after its freedom war of 1848-49, slowly came to be seen as the ultimate evil by 1900. I believe he has a book out on this. Sadly, this British propaganda, put out by the Enemy Propaganda Department, caused the Allies to cut Hungary up quite arbitrarily. I don't know exactly how many cities, small towns, farms etc., they cut in half, but Trianon is comparable to the Berlin Wall in that it separated families, regions etc. Sadly, the problems it created remain largely unresolved.

[@Hunfootball]

And they, Romania, Slovakia, Sebia, etc. say we Hungarian oppressed our minorities... It's totally natural for us that it's the opposite but others maybe believe these coutries who stole many lands from us. But logically it's not even normal to take 70% of a country just because it oppresses some of his minorities a little bit... And that a country is reponsible for a war while it is ruled by another.

[@KristianHerdi]

@@Hunfootball Nobody in Serbia ever said that!I'm ethnic Hungarian from Serbia and I should now that. as a little side note, after the WWII only in Serbia local Hungarian population wasn't deported or killed in reprisals like Germans were in the the rest of Eastern Europe or where forced to change their nationality and identity by becoming R.manians...

[@bendeguzdobo.b.4750]

Its true.

[@roberthomoki7351]

stalin and hitler made the same offer to hungary...... leaders feared stalin more then hitler at that time and accepted hitlers offer. looking back at komunism and what thay did to hungary for 50 years.....

[@HistoryHustle]

More on this in a few weeks.

[@davidwhitney1171]

World War II trivia- in June 1942 the United States, for the very last time, officially declared war, as specified by the the Constitution(an official Congressional Declaration of War signed by the President, in this case Roosevelt), against Hungary, as well as Romania and Bulgaria, as Allies of Nazi Germany, against which War had been officially declared by the United States six months earlier, along with Japan and Italy, just after Pearl Harbor was attacked. This was to be the last time the United States officially went to war in accordance with the Constitution, unlike later wars such as Korea, Vietnam, etc. .

[@HistoryHustle]

Interesting. I didn't know this. Thanks for sharing this.

[@davidwhitney1171]

@@HistoryHustle Yes, my understanding is that Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria, as Allies of Nazi Germany, were first pressured to declare war on the United States by Hitler, soon after the official US declaration against Germany, as well as Japan and Italy. Through diplomatic channels Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria were warned to rescind their declarations or face the consequences. When they wouldn't (or, most likely, under German pressure couldn't), the US officially declared war against them, in June 1942. This was the very last time the US declared war against another sovereign state(s) as specified by the Constitution. This gave the US legal authority to wage war against these countries. Although to my knowledge American troops did not fight on the ground in these countries, the US Army Air Force conducted operations against them, particularly Romania with its strategic oil fields. Either way these countries were not particularly helpful to Germany...

[@marcusfranconium3392]

Its interesting that the nations involved as alies of germany in world war II where the same as the former austrian hungarian empire , Austria / tjsecholovakia , hungary kroatia

[@HistoryHustle]

More or less. I do have to say that Slovakia was an ally, but Czech was occupied and annexed and had no independence or whatsoever. On the flipside: the Independent State of Croatia (NDH) wasn't that independent either.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

@@HistoryHustle O wow that is a quick reaction , Love your work .curently iam doing some historic research my self , and came across some interesting history on the german UD II and Type VII uboats. . It seems they where designed by the dutch german front company of IvS and INKAVOS.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for your reply 👍

[@LS_1909]

🇩🇪❤️🇭🇺

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@apavietii6677]

the Treaty of Trianon was not that unfair to Hungary. We have to think objectively. So Hungary, in its madness, tried to copy Attaturk's Turkey, and tried in the struggle to regain the territories it had already lost until the signing of the Trianon. Hungary was already successful in defeating Czechoslovakia, but the attack on Romania was decisive. Although Hungary attacked when Romania was already fighting the Soviets, the Romanian army still managed to counterattack and conquer Budapest a week later. So Hungary was completely conquered by Romania, the Hungarian theories are not true at all with I don't know what French troops, even the French tried to stop the Romanians. But Romania conquered Budapest as far as Gyor , reaching border with Austria . So Romania wanted and was promised by the Entente, the whole territory up to the Tisza River. But the Entente did not keep its word, and initially wanted to give only half of Transylvania, but Romania's unexpected occupation of Hungary put pressure on the Entente to recognize more territory for Romania, but the Entente still forced Debrecen to remain in Hungary. although initially it already passed to Romania. So we can say that Trianon was not so bad for Hungary, but there were some injustices for Hungary nonetheless, because Austria does not deserve to receive territories from Hungary.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the topic.

[@jozsefsandor671]

Trianon was against Wilson's self-determination theory, because it was NOT based on democratic plebiscite (general equal&secret ballots). Let's don't forget: Without democratic plebiscites about the borders, there was no demonstrable popular legitimacy/acceptance behind any territorial changes, so it could lead only to arbitrary political decisions (aka. dictate). It was not a wonder that Czech, Romanian and Serbian politicians vehemently PROTESTED against the very idea of democratic referendums about the borders at the Paris Peace Conference. Czech politicians didn't trust in Slovaks, because only very few Slovaks joined to the so-called "Czechoslovak"army against the Hungarians in 1919 (and Slovaks represented only 53% ratio in Northern parts of Hungary). Romanian politicians didn't trust in Transylvanian Romanians, perhaps they didn't want to join to the traditionally seriously backward & poor Romania (the ratio of Romanians were only 53% in Transylvania). Serbs were small minority (22% !!!) in Voivodine. Similar to Romania, Serbia was also a very backward Orthodox country without serious urbanization or industrialization. Just imagine how "civilized" were these countries: overwhelming majority of the population of the Kingdom of Romania and Kingdom of Serbia could not read and write in the era of the first WW1. It was not wonder that the US Congress did not sign this anti-democratic dictate. There was only one democratic plebiscite about the borders between Hungary and Austria: The Sopron area plebiscite in Western Hungary in 1921, there were general equal and secret ballots with electoral registers (or poll books) of the LOCAL residents, and every local citizen could take part in the elections over 18year, regardless the ethnicity, social status or sex. The polling stations and polling districts were under the control and supervision of the Western (Italian, British and French) ENTENTE officers. Some villages and towns voted to be part of Austria, some villages and city of Sopron voted to remain part of Hungary. Read about it here and watch the video: Sopron plebiscite - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopron_plebiscite

[@juststeve5542]

"What is goodbye in Hungarian?" Szia later... *chuckles*

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@Zolega89]

Thankfully we still exist and that's what matters to me!

[@HistoryHustle]

Fair point 🇭🇺

[@willhovell9019]

Good insights , but needs to be developed & time line extended Hungary deserved what it got after WW1 and it's territorial losses were a form of reparations. Austria / Hungary was at the pivot of causing World War 1 , and Hungary more concerned with territorial expansion , than building an effective country . It may have an inflated sense of importance, having been a joint player in a large crumbling polyglot empire. Neither the western powers or Russia / Soviet Union really cared about a country that fell into neither camp , with its in unique.non Indo - European language and creative / soulful culture , occupied by the Ottomans and heavy handed Germanic influences . At the crossroads of Central Europe within strong Roma & Jewish influences under which it's culture and enterprise flourished, and it's bravery and tenacity demonstrated in the 1956 uprising. With deeply dark chapters such is it's active complicity in the holocaust and recently backsliding into a mythical Catholic golden age of intolerance, with contempt for rule of law and international community norms , this beautiful country , with creative and clever people , are making another hell for themselves .Again playing the victim , when at key moments in the 20th century , they were manipulative aggressors , caught time and time again on the losing side of history. Respect for the Hungarian peoples, they are better than this and have flourished when they face outwards and embrace their uniquely blended culture and sporting talents.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for taking the time to write down this additional information.

[@mirceadraga7421]

You are smart and realistic! :)

[@sandorharaszti4359]

The history will make a judgement over every nation and we do not need your pity. We have been a victim for 500 years and it is partly our fault. I admit. But if we lose again we will do it walking tall not kneeling to anyone doing our best to survive keeping our honor till the end.

[@jozsefsandor671]

Unlike most Slavs and Romanians, the Hungarians has no Asian mongoloid Autosomal genetic markers. Learn population genetics. Most IE speakers lives in Asia, and they are not even white.

[@willhovell9019]

@@jozsefsandor671 No wonder Orban was 're-elected', you deserve each other. If Hungary continues in this authoritarian way, then pressure will build to throw the country out of the EU , with Poland not far behind . Pity that the clown run UK Liarocracy will have no influence, but the vote in England (outside London) and Wales dictated otherwise - that's democracy. Respect to the Hungarian people , very talented, creative and musical.

[@Pltlght2571]

Fun fact, in the summer of 1940 Hungary mobilised and wanted to wage war against vlachia, but the furrytoes cowarded down and asked for Germano-Italian judgement about Transylvania. So we got back only half. But history is never finished.

[@combatantezoteric2965]

die mad about it. You will never take it back unless ww3 happens, and if somehow NATO doesnt support Romania. But if another world war happens its very possible that both countries will cease to exist.

[@HistoryHustle]

Let's hope that won't happen.

[@Pltlght2571]

@@combatantezoteric2965 Nothing lasts forever son. Not the NATO, nor America, neither the west. We will take it back and do exactly what you did to Hungarians a 100 years ago. And we don't need anyone for that. In a 1 on 1 fight how could you switch sides? "One can get used to justice." -Áron Tamási

[@Pltlght2571]

@@HistoryHustle How about we carve up the Netherlands? You can keep Utrecht, Flevoland, North and South Holland. The rest goes to Britain, France, Belgium, Germany and Denmark. After that, we live in peace. How does that sound?

[@brozjoszip6401]

@@combatantezoteric2965 well, in Europe nothing is for sure, and nobody sees 10 years in advance. Nobody thought that your great ally, the communist Sowietunion collapses. But it did. Nobody thought, Yugoslawia collapses, but it did. And Romanians never belived Germany unites once. But it did. And I did not mention Czechoslowakia, or Ukraine. Concerning the 3rd WW, we know not too much. One thing is sure: at the end there will be justice for all. Even if you do not belive in it.

[@martonziegler2181]

It was a very tough situation! The Russians fired from the left, the Germans fired from the right, we Hungarians fled: Out of the wheat, into the snow. Out of the snow, into the wheat. In the knee-length wind ... So it was very hard ...

[@HistoryHustle]

It was inderd tough yes.

[@draug7966]

I've often heard of Horthy referred to as Admiral Horthy but Hungary doesn't have a coast so what's up with that?

[@madmax6827]

Horthy was an admiral in the Austro-Hungarian navy. The treaty took away the Dalmatian coast and gave it to the then Kingdom of the South Slavs (Yugoslavia). You know what happened to them in the 1990's.

[@draug7966]

@@madmax6827 ok, didn't know that. Thanks for clearing it up.

[@HistoryHustle]

👍

[@thekaiser6842]

I can hardly blame the Hungarians for choosing the side they did. If anyone got screwed from the Entente (mainly by France) after the Great War it was Hungary. They were forced to cede 72% of their pre-war lands (not including the Austrian-ruled regions), displacing nearly 3.5 million Hungarians who became minorities in the surrounding nations. It was such a severe concession that it is still a major talking point in Hungary’s political scene even to this very day.

[@HistoryHustle]

Yes, it is understandable.

[@thedarkness3766]

I‘m a Hungarian an it still is a hard thing to talk about here in Hungary. My family used to live in Erdély, Kingdom of Hungary and after the Treaty of Trianon it became Transylvania, Romania. My family was even hunted after the treaty by the romanian government to make sure they leave.

[@theobolt250]

Left guy: Wo hasst'u den Schweinebraten versteckt? Guy on the right: Die hab' Ich schon gefressen. Heheheh.

[@HistoryHustle]

lol

[@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860]

It’s interesting to note that even though Hungary and Romania didn’t like each other, they still fought on the same side for the axis.

[@HistoryHustle]

True indeed!

[@xerxen100]

But Romania later sided with the Russians,and attacked Hungary. Without them maybe Hungary wont fall to communism. The soviet warmachine cant break the Hun lines in the Carphatians.

[@Cormano980]

@@xerxen100 That's deluded, the russians would've broken through no matter what , you just joined in hope to get Transilvania and got a big fat L for a second time

[@xerxen100]

@@Cormano980 They probe more than 3 weeks, and they cant break our lines. If we can stand their pressure more several weeks, our conditions with peace negotation is far more better.

[@daves2520]

I read that, while fighting as Axis powers on the Russian front, the Hungarian and Romanian forces had to be kept separated from one another due to their mutual hatred. Obviously, this was an additional problem that the Germans did not need.

[@HistoryHustle]

I've heard that as well.

[@darklaci6886]

Also Germany, Austria and Italy were Hungary's only trade partners, so it was inevitable to not side with them. There was also a plan form another alliance between Austria, Italy and Hungary called the Rome Protocols, but it wasn't successful. With being locked from every side Hungary only had Germany as a "friend", so we can say the same in Hungary's situation like in Poland's the West let them fall to the Germans, the only difference is Hungary was controlled by Hitler before the war.

[@HistoryHustle]

Thanks for sharing your insights on this.