Why did Labour's red wall turn blue?

[@nialpollitt3410]

Everyone outside of London knows why.

[@stevebbuk]

It was the befuddled Labour Brexit policy, an issue which dominated the election unlike 2017, when Jeremy Corbyn came across quite well.

[@joebloggs5186]

Beth, it wasn't a shock result for anyone outside London.

[@gwmitchell1980]

Joe Bloggs I agree, the gulf between Londoners and the rest of the country is astronomical.

[@englandfantv6592]

Lieslmevery most big cities voted for labour even northern cities, it was only the scummy little towns and villages that voted for the Tory tossers

[@joebloggs5186]

@@englandfantv6592 because the cities are full of immigrants.

[@gwmitchell1980]

England FanTV Thanks for slamming home my original point.

[@owen5847]

This is actually becoming a serious issue. Socially and politically, London is becoming extremely disconnected from outside the M25. And it's not healthy for the country.

[@dean1039]

"There was only one man Peter trusted to get Brexit over the line" **Shows picture of Alan Shearer**

[@inquaanate2393]

Because britain is not a socialist country.

[@farisingle2385]

100%

[@daltongoh9062]

Inqu'aanate labour saw ingsoc from 1984 and saw a utopia

[@sbaeneg4738]

No it is cuz the nhs u idiot

[@JAMAICADOCK]

The popular vote puts the progressive, pro EU parties on 51 percent of votes cast. Truth is, it's hard to tell what Britain is as a country because the voting system rarely represents the popular vote. There was basically two parties on the Right - with the Tories main rival standing down in marginal constituencies, meanwhile Labour, lib Dem, SNP, Greens all cancelled each other out. Tories could not have won this election without the deal with Farage. The Tories realizing it's not a Two Party system anymore, whereas Labour hasn't.

[@inquaanate2393]

trev moffatt i don’t want a system where people who live in london get the whole say on what goes on in the country, i want distributed representation, not proportional representation. Distributed representation means that even if a party is doing well, individual mps can be removed if they perform poorly. It is superior for representing different communities other than urban livers compared with proportional representation.

[@KingofCabal]

The Joke is they Really think its all About Corbyn and Breixt. It goes so much deeper.

[@WokeBegone]

It does go deeper as well, but apparantly Corbin was toxic to them, on the doorsteps, noone liked him.

[@MrGreenwitches]

From what I've seen on the news...People were blaming Labour for things that have happened while the Tories have been in power.

[@bestcomms908]

The working class didn't turn on labour, labour turned on them.

[@cstan93]

Spot on mate traditional labour voters, in very dejected Norther towns turned away from Corbyn and 'Momentum' as they were simply seen as too Trotskyist, and out of touch with traditional Northern working class values. We in the North don't want a communist revolution or to tear down capitalism, we want jobs, commercial investment in our Towns, proper public transport that doesn't run on diesel and good health services....basically everything the South of England has.

[@kevcullimore5430]

Because Labour is now a Champaign socilast club. Not much for the working class there.

[@danhall6922]

Labour is more the party for the working class than it has ever been The manifesto proves this I live in a council estate and work as scaffoler, I struggle with bills rent and debt Labour were going to do great things for my family

[@kevcullimore5430]

@@danhall6922 wish I could believe that Dan, I honestly do.

[@petewalsh2286]

yeah and these lot love the working classes www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/poorer-mersey-councils-crisis-funding-18314443

[@darshilmashru8479]

Champagne*

[@darshilmashru8479]

Champagne* socialist*

[@darknessecho7704]

Well it a easy answer Labour is out of touch with the people on a wide amount of issues.

[@petewalsh2286]

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/poorer-mersey-councils-crisis-funding-18314443

[@whatthefrickbro]

What killed labour was when a labour woman mp went on sky news and told a man to stop “mansplaining” when he was talking!!

[@petewalsh2286]

If people don't vote Labour over childish nonsense like than then they deserve all the Tories are going to do with them.

[@psinno]

​@@petewalsh2286 Gendered attacks are not going to endear a party to normal people.

[@Jay_Johnson]

@@petewalsh2286 despite that the left needs to understand that they will either have to mobilise more young people or become less socially progressive because as with France with marine le pen the UK has plenty of economically left people who are socially conservative, mainly older people which are who won the Tories the north.

[@WokeBegone]

People hold Labour responsible for Rotherham and Telford etc. That fake woke concern of theirs didn't give two shits about those white girls that got raped, just made it harder to get them "heard".

[@officialOriginalR]

At least sky don't block.comments

[@angrybrit7331]

They do they just delete loads instead of a outright block

[@stevehillier7018]

I was born in London and always was Labour I’m talking about Old Labour . I feel We haven’t had a proper Labour Prime Minister since 1979. Corbyn as that Chap said Couldn’t run a bath . I never thought I would vote Tory but I did because yes of Brexit and someone who is determined to deliver . The rest are a disgrace. The old school people like Wilson and Callaghan must be turning in their Graves.

[@lewisner]

Corbyn was a fan of Tony Benn but unlike Tony he had only ever been a backbencher. His only appeal was to activists.

[@OUTBOUND184]

People want the third position. Social conservatism that cares for the poor/vulnerable.

[@Jay_Johnson]

unfortunately yes

[@empirestate8791]

Blue labour maybe?

[@OUTBOUND184]

@@empirestate8791 Or SDP, though in reality neither are muscular enough to fix all the problems we have

[@ivermektin6874]

Wonder how they all feel now.

[@empirestate8791]

Lol in the us, blue is left wing and red is right wing ... I actually got confused by the title!

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

It was because they were more interested in winning seats in Kensington and Putney than they were in retaining the working class in the rest of England.

[@empirestate8791]

In the us, boris would literally be considered a radical leftist. After all, he supports infrastructure spending, universal healthcare, and climate change action!

[@SplashTasty]

Infantile view of the US/UK political dichotomy

[@Jamal-Ahmed786]

How extreme, just for brexit they'll vote against their own interests.

[@JoshLester1]

Labour is no longer a party for the working class.

[@petewalsh2286]

explain how the Tories are?

[@muttley8818]

@@petewalsh2286 Oh and Corbyn’s Labour was more of a student union party. People outside the M25 were pretty much shunned. That’s why the red wall collapsed.

[@MrKenng123]

In these politically correct era, people who disagree with Maoism or Leninist ideologies can also be called racist, funny isnt it? Why can there be some grey zones, ie neither a racist nor a communist?

[@MrGreenwitches]

On the other hand, people who aren't far right are called Marxists.

[@Irishtradchannel]

All encompasses in that Labour do not like their old voter base and don't hide it. Many of them finally took the hint.

[@ianheaver3217]

I used to be a Labour voter many many years ago and even an activist albeit in a small way. Now to see the slow painful death of Labour before my very eyes makes me smile every day. They truly represent fascism these days, Shame on them!

[@bt3743]

Please define fascism

[@ukironman1]

This is a simple one. People from the north were once a major part of the industrial base of the UK, where whole communities were built around monolithic institutions. Thatcher laid waste to these communities in the 1980s, creating slag heaps of vice and deprivation. Enough time has now passed where these communities no longer feel bonded to the labour movement which was their voice against class oppression, but has now morphed into champagne socialism. The ironic thing is Jeremy Corbyn was actually a true labour idealist fighting for the everyday man, but held hostage within his own party. In addition to this, masterful demonisation by the conservative incumbent and their lackeys in the media tarnished an honest man. End result will be the North will get shafted once again, but this time it will be of our own volition...

[@hound5770]

Why did labors red wall turn blue.They are no longer for the working class.

[@MrGreenwitches]

...but the tories are?

[@hound5770]

@@MrGreenwitches No, there ALL for themselves.

[@danhall6922]

Because listened to what was said about the labour party rather than what the labour party said

[@Jay_Johnson]

I can't help but notice that as the media became more and more commercialised the public became more and more right wing we have had neoliberalism sprinkled with some progressive social policy for 40 years.

[@user-oi4om3tx2o]

Wor shearer would've sorted brexit ages ago

[@wolfgang2380]

Immigration

[@themoog924]

Boris wants MORE mass immigration from Africa and elsewhere. Face facts, both the main parties want the native Brits demographically replaced.

[@angrybrit7331]

@@themoog924 he wants trade with Africa and visas for certain skills or Dr,s nurses health workers not mass free movement lol

[@themoog924]

@@angrybrit7331 Time will tell. I don't want any health workers from Africa, we have enough already. We need to train our own people.

[@dailymass4924]

@@angrybrit7331 Boris is better than Corbyn, but I wouldn't trust him on immigration

[@mickg7299]

Wolf gang ~ And still they come...🚣🏿‍♂️...👀😂

[@aoy1967]

People are not stupid!!!!!

[@gogledhol]

this just isn't what happened though, labour won 19 more seats than the tories in the north, and the north was the only part of England outside of london where the tories didnt win more seats than labour: Seats Tory Labour The North 68 87 Midlands 82 22 E Eng 52 5 SE Eng 73 8 SW Eng 48 6 London 21 48

[@RaRa-eu9mw]

Simply put, we were lied to.

[@RaRa-eu9mw]

@London Sky It's ok for me. I'm moving South. I know some people who can't do that though, and they're going to really feel the squeeze.

[@Ironside-fz9vd]

" Get Brexit done" is why they voted Conservative.

[@helengoodman98]

Beth Rigby is such a good journalist.

[@robertallen6013]

several reasons 1is working class attitudes to imigration as oposed to the percieved left wing position 2 labour is right of a tory party spending like drunken sailors and nationalising the railways 3 the tories simply lie about there policies

[@markvincentbonachita8950]

Labour seems to be weak than the Conservative party where they really stand on something.

[@joebloggs5186]

Exactly. What the man in the red jumper and glasses said. Me too. We don't get to pick which votes count.

[@joebloggs5186]

I will never vote for any leader of the labour party who tried to uncast my vote. That is all of the present candidates. Labour has lost a generation of voters by not listening and they are still as delusional as ever. The lending of votes will quickly become permanent. People vote differently now.

[@christown2827]

If only Corbyn had gone with Labour Party policy on Brexit the result might have been different. I believe REAL Labour voters in these areas failed to turn out. Eventually those people who claim to be Labour but voted Tory will see Brexit for the folly it is. Look at all the seats Labour did hold onto particularly in Yorkshire the most pro Brexit county in England and despite Brexit Party opposition. The first past the post system has once again left many of us totally unrepresented in Parliament. Some "democracy" that is. Expect Boris to follow Putin and possibly Trump and try to do something to frustrate free and fair elections in the future.

[@NorthumbrianNationalist]

We want him back And we definitely dont wanna be reds again

[@AdamUFP]

Wow people see believe boris WHO lies left right centre and goes which ever way wind goes, prefer over Someone whole life fight for workers and always stood his ground principled shames NORTH DESERVES BORIS I wish boris wins shows them a good lesson about Boris

[@iankelly6264]

London was better under Boris

[@MrGreenwitches]

@@iankelly6264 He wasted £53 million on a garden bridge that never got built.

[@CaptainCalculus]

Sky news discovers people who don't live in London!

[@hcwcars1]

Why would people vote against free broadband? I'd love free broadband

[@adamgriffin8197]

Maria Schick it’s not realistic and would hurt thousands of jobs in the uk

[@sirkayda7205]

Because Socialism has never worked.

[@redberries8039]

..it's never free. It would just be paid for through taxes, except the service would be crap.

[@saxglend9439]

Nothing is free.

[@DJVEGAS1000]

@@adamgriffin8197 its not realistic? Why?

[@bobdole7168]

They Blushed.

[@isobar5857]

In a word: Immigration.

[@petewalsh2286]

in a word (or three) it won't stop.

[@danhall6922]

I live in a council house and work as a scaffolder labour are more the working class party than they have ever been in my lifetime I the manifesto. This is cannot be argued with

[@TedThomasTT]

Thick and ugly, this video sums up the Brits nicely.

[@Irishtradchannel]

Why is the modern left so poisonous and bitter, raw in its contempt for every one outside their clique. Used not be like that. No wonder the Tories won, the alternative of labour was not an option.

[@wangdangdoodie]

Ted Thomas. Your attitude perfectly illustrates why Liebour were, not just beaten, but trounced.

[@ianheaver3217]

Thick and ugly? yes well that's enough about Liebour voters !

[@TedThomasTT]

@@wangdangdoodie so people voted against their interests out of spite? Nothing stupid about that...

[@TedThomasTT]

@@Irishtradchannel haha did that sound intelligent in your head?

[@davidway304]

Because the blue is led by s leader

[@irelandandtheuk1280]

The British still hate the Irish 🤔

[@wangdangdoodie]

Yes

[@mtgUK2015]

No

[@MrLordBear]

No?

[@bobdole7168]

They Blushed.