Why did the Qing Dynasty Fall? History of China 1895-1918 Documentary 3/10

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Qing Empire, Warlord Period, Sun Yat-Sen, Yuan Shikai, Warlord Era, Chinese History, China WW1, Boxer Rebellion, Xinhai Rebellion,

[@babyshark946]

I love the fact that even the Qing know that they can deny Italy's requests

[@interestingengineering291]

😂😂😂😂

[@arthas640]

A Qing-Italian war would be amazing to witness. 2 incompetent empires facing off against one another: on 1 side we've got a massive empire still stuck in the middle ages facing off against a much smaller but more modern empire that's almost as poorly run. Both empires are known for switching sides at the drop of a hat and both are heavily fragmented.

[@cxarhomell5867]

@@arthas640 I'd place my bets on Italy winning. The Italians have guts and strategy.

[@polignac]

@@cxarhomell5867 they couldnt even win against ethiopians with spears, let alone china which had more acess to firearms

[@shinybreloom4027]

the same weakened China who won wars against the Russian Empire and its successors in the frontiers of Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, or Manchuria would probably win a war against Italy.

[@Jesse_Dawg]

Please put a year date on the screen when talking about different events. Sometimes it can be difficult to tell exactly when these different things happen. thank you

[@Chronos4088]

Didn't he do that on the other 2 parts? Weird

[@milascave2]

Jesse: Yea. With all these Chinese names popping up one after another, I lost track.

[@meejinhuang]

The Qing Empress built lavish palaces and gardens using money meant for their military. They were overthrown not long after.

[@jinvonastrea1141]

No offense to the manchu but the qing dynasty shouldn't even exist in the first place.

[@-haclong2366]

If someone with a brain killed Cixi then the Qing would have likely still existed and China could have been a powerful country, unfortunately she almost single-handedly used her bourgeois Conservative personality to prevent the continued existence of the Qing Dynasty.

[@leealex24]

@@jinvonastrea1141 As someone from south east asia with chinese heritage/ethnicity, I believe the most important person in China's transformation/success is Deng XiaoPing

[@derekchen7371]

It may sound rediculous today but actually the result of court politics that the Manchu royalty was urged to weaken Han warlords like Li Hongzhang. After Qing's fall, the newly founded repulic witnessed a glance of democracy and quickly slipped into decades of warlord rule.

[@kuanged]

All regimes ruling empires reaching their peak build fancy things to prove they've still got it. They have to. Court politics demand it, and if you don't show off your wealth to your officials then the aristocracy and court politicians will sense weakness and align against you. If you are too strong militarily, your people fear you and once again try to overthrow you. There is no way around this for anyone anywhere. Human beings are impossible to govern well since we're always shifting our alliances for personal gain.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Honestly, that is the most depressing and chaotic history of ANY country I have heard before! It's like Battle Royale China for centuries!

[@JD78CN]

You should read about the warring states period, it was much worst. This was just about 50 years of chaos.

[@amazingpeterzhu]

Yeah, so we chinese very cherish peace and memorize the history of division, so we want to be unity in order to not be invaded by westerners or japanese.

[@hazzmati]

@@amazingpeterzhu this comment has been approved by the Chinese Commumist Party

[@amazingpeterzhu]

@@hazzmati approved by people of the whole world who love peace

[@amazingpeterzhu]

@@hazzmati and do i say something political?

[@Grabacr-pl3wy]

The more I learn about her the worse the Empress Dowager seems. She knew she was dying and instead of picking a grown reformer picked a cruel boy instead. Seems like the whole government was crab bucketing each other.

[@meow7983]

The issue, she’s in power for far too long and not willing to let go. Guang Wu emperor was too sheltered and thus not able to see the Qing army weakness and when the army lost, he totally loses it. The entire Qing court is also too ingrained in the Confucius culture thinking and afraid to speak up against superior or the emperor even when they see any problem, like for example the navy vessels having the wrong type of ammunition for their guns or the lack of competent commanders or commanders that that still stuck in 16 century warfare, they are afraid of speaking up as they fear it will weaken the authority of the emperor or the royal family.

[@mxn1948]

she and her supporters in government were very much extreme conservatives. to her credit she was able to overcome some of that and start some limited reforms, though they were far too little too late. Her fear and the reason she killed the guangxu emperor was because he was an extreme reformer and wanted to invite the japanese in and model the government based on japan's. had he succeeded china might have become a unstable military ran, constitutional monarchy but one that had a military able to fight. but there was a far greater danger that he would have failed and japan instead would have infested the government, leading to an even worse outcome for china than IRL.

[@sampuatisamuel9785]

@@meow7983 Speaking up would have been political disaster and risk being sentenced to death or being ordered to commit suicide

[@brainwasher9876]

She's up there with Jiang Ching as one of the most reviled women in Chinese history.

[@meow7983]

@@sampuatisamuel9785 yes you are correct. She is surrounded by yes men, and she only wants to hear “good news”. The whole problem with Confucius culture is that the superior is never wrong, even when wrong. You cannot tell the superior that he or she is wrong. You only can “advise” or “guide” the superior to self awareness of the problem

[@HNW00]

Are you ever going to cover the warlord era or the second Chinese civil War (1945-49) period? I noticed a lot of youtube content based on the fall of the Qing and WWII (1937-45) in China but little on the previous two topics mentioned.

[@Flow86767]

The second Chinese civil is particularly interesting.

[@didacclivilleoriol7057]

It would be interesting, but it is a very complicated era in Chinese history.

[@toxicalyss]

Oh Warlord Era aint that just the transition period before the next dynasty... It happens every hundred years or something right?

[@toxicalyss]

@@Flow86767 There has been civil wars since the Qin Dynasty to Qing Dynasty. Why do they even call it the second one its obscurd. Civil wars have been fought for every reunification of China.

[@FazeParticles]

@@toxicalyss yup. warlords don't have vision to they get consumed by more ambitious characters.

[@aw4955]

Impressive video. Sadly, many people still do not understand how important these events were and they shape our current geopolitical situation. You laid it out quite nicely. Well done.

[@arthas640]

True. It existed beforehand but after the Taiping Rebellion anti-western and anti-Christian sentiment became huge in China and the leaders back then through to the present day blame the Taiping Rebellion on Christian missionaries even though the Christian missionaries condemned the cult and western observers that visited the "Taiping Heavenly Kingdom" said they didnt look, sound, or act Christian at all (many didnt know much if anything about Christianity and even the ones who did deviated from Christianity so much it barely resembled it) and said they were simply a populist uprising. Even today there's a strong anti-Christian sentiment in China and people will often cite the Taiping Rebellion as a reason why, it ranks alongside the Opium Wars and Century of Humiliation in some peoples minds as reasons to fear, mistrust, and/or hate both Christianity and the West.

[@Jake-dh9qk]

Warlords period is one of the most perfect settings for a total war Victoria era game. Perfect balance of gun, cannon, sword and cavalry.

[@azh698]

There is a WW1 mod for Empire: Total War, I think. It shouldn't be difficult to make one like it for the Warlord setting.

[@Jake-dh9qk]

@Verum Similis Probably for current political reasons involving modern day China. The warlords period is currently the most recent "game of thrones" situation we have in this era and CPP along with KMT has a lot of muddled and dirty history involving their origins and rise to power. You can't get to the top politically without betrayals, backstabs and death. Surely the current Taiwan and Chinese government wouldn't want their historical reputation tarnished. Not only that, it also means CA would have to risk angering the international community over disputed territories. The Warlords of that era sometimes held territories outside of current China. This would sort of be seen as CA legitimizing modern China's claim to those territories.

[@DzinkyDzink]

And badass fist-fighting melee infantry!

[@arthas640]

I wish they'd make some RTS's set in China. A few game ideas I've always wanted to see: 1. A Company of Heros style RTS set in WW2 era China. 2. A Call of Duty/Medal of Honor style FPS set in the Chinese or Burma campaigns 3. An RTS set in the Opium Wars or Boxer Rebellion Since many points of those history involved small, elite units facing off against massive hordes of enemies it's a great setting for a game. The Chinese built westernized modern army units that were usually relatively small (the Qing had one but at it's peak it made up something like 1% of their entire army) and in WW1-WW2 they had a German trained elite unit that performed well against the communists and Japanese but in both the Qing and ROC's case those modern units were ground down over time since they had to stop or scale down training new soldiers in modern tactics leaving them with a limited number of men. Similar story with those fighting the Qing and ROC: they often had far fewer, but much better trained and equipped soldiers facing hordes of poorly trained conscripts.

[@Jake-dh9qk]

@@arthas640 Yep. The setting of racing towards modernization and gaining support from western allies can be a great mechanic in game too. Watching your low level militia army slowly equip itself into the first modern army of China would be cool.

[@andreaskroknes4407]

Holy moly, this series has been so well-made!

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

Ding Ling (丁玲) once wrote: "Only those who have aims and ambitions for the benefit, not of the individual, but of humankind as a whole can persevere to the end"

[@Ferroes]

Ling Ding was wise and long

[@kaushalraj2597]

Bro I appreciate your cunning tactics to gain subscriber. If you make quality content so you wouldn't have to do so. So I reported your all comments.

[@larrywave]

@@kaushalraj2597 why 🤔

[@larrywave]

@@kaushalraj2597 now that i have seen couple of his videos ill say they are ok and he seems to be getting better 🤔

[@snuscaboose1942]

A communist who is willing to butcher their own people would say something like that.

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

FINALLY! I have been waiting a while for your final part!

[@VikingLord101]

Luxembourg!?!?!??

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

The Warlord Era is my favorite in Chinese History. It's really incredible how similar it was to the fall of the Han.

[@amazingpeterzhu]

there is a great different. Han dynasty fall(include three kingdoms era) but they are still strong and they almost have no outside enemy, any warlord of Han could be able to beat any surround nation like Huns. But Qing dynast fall because of weakness and republic revolution. any warlord of Qing dynasty would get support from the West or Japan, because a divided China tally with western interest, and this is what they do nowadays, they want to divide XinJiang, Tibet, TaiWan, HongKong from china, I am from XinJiang, we live a peace life and western reports from BBC NYT CNN and stuff are totally shit, they just want to divide us again.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

@@amazingpeterzhu It isn't just some Western Interest thing it is also an Ideological think. Western Ideology is one birth from 1700s and later nationalism. The Idea that an easily definable ethnic groups should have its own state is ubiquitous and the Ugyhur activists and pro Dalai Lama Tibetans serve as evidences of that.

[@amazingpeterzhu]

@@ikengaspirit3063 Sorry, the two biggest allies of western countries in the Middle East are Saudi Arabia, a medieval theocratic state, and Israel, which has slaughtered Arabs since the establishment of Israel. Ideology will always yield to national interests. Democracy and freedom are only the disguise of Western politicians. Otherwise, 40% of ethnic minorities in the United States should be established independently, Britain should agree to Ireland's independence, and Spain should agree to Catalonia's independence. The concept of freedom, democracy and nationality was developed only after the western countries exhausted the means of non freedom and non democracy to enslave blacks and massacred 20 million Indians in North America. However, the western countries have never allowed the independence of their national minorities. You should know that when Xinjiang was incorporated into China, most countries in the world did not form. At that time, there were not even Christianity and Islam. The ancestors of Uighurs were not even in Xinjiang at that time. History is really complex. Each country has its own unique national conditions.

[@amazingpeterzhu]

@@ikengaspirit3063 If Europe does not want to unite and only wants ideology, there will be no EU. European countries (mainly Germany and France) are eager to unite to reduce pressure from the United States and Russia. You see, thousands of years of hatred can be put down in front of national interests.

[@Teddybaerchen2012]

@Theodore there is one, but not so popular

[@owenklein1917]

I love this series you made. I’ve always been intimidated by the history of China as it is so deep but this series made a small part of their history easier to learn

[@taiwanisacountry]

I am a bit biased since it is my area of expertise. But the history of Taiwan under Qing rule is really fascinating. It was just a place where you dumped all your shitty rulers. The oversees, a bit hard to explain what their job was. When you are forced by your family to hire your drunken uncle in your successful business because he has been homeless before and we don't want to see that again. Then you give him the job of overseeing Taiwan. It was this bad. Except it was also the extra cruel people were also sent to Taiwan, not because it was necessary but because nobody would mind if they messed the place up.

[@Mo_Mudabber]

@@taiwanisacountryQing china’s Australia 😭

[@taiwanisacountry]

@@Mo_Mudabber not really. Australia was ment to me a prison island. So the population was bottom of the barrel. But for Taiwan the people were fine but the politicians were literally only those people who you had to give a job or they would try to assassinate the emperor, or they would cost a ton of money to clean up after their messes. Bottom of the barrel leaders, the extra incompetent, or the extra cruel and ruthless.

[@Shre_k__]

@@Mo_Mudabber underrated comment

[@jameseden9380]

Ah now I have to watch the first 2 again. Thank you so much for these. Very informative.

[@mantis2048]

Phenomenal mini documentary. You deserve way more subscribers

[@robezy0]

Thanks, was waiting for this :D

[@dantatadangote4700]

Great work man. Kudos and thank you.

[@llimppr]

Love your videos, sad you don't get more attention your vids are so interesting!

[@alexandruchira184]

You are the most underated Chanel on the platform

[@erikskoog8415]

great series m8 such and intresting period!

[@denotsevoL]

Your content severely underrated

[@varjan86]

Great Videos, thanks. What books and resources did you use for your research? Sources would be very helpful. Thank you.

[@premiersportingkc3443]

Fantastic video!

[@kuroazrem5376]

This is the most thorough and complete description of this very confusing period! Thanks a lot!

[@Jesse_Dawg]

Please make parts 4 and 5 for this series. I would love for it to keep moving forward

[@jesperburns]

I think it'd be helpful to add dates to the video on screen. If not just the date where a change happened, maybe also the dates in which certain people were alive or did certain things.

[@user-lf7pp8vc7v]

Excellent exposition to a very complicated subject.

[@jorgeh.r9879]

Jabzy, a video on the Spanish conquest of the Canary islands, pre-islamic Arabia, Anatolian peoples or the life and times of Ahmad Shah Massoud would be pretty interesting.

[@JabzyJoe]

Have a look at my guide to Tudor London - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqaVcp-ZbJuhgNk Plus, there will be a vote on patreon on which country to do next (or just to carry on with China) - so if you'd like to help out please think about joining - www.patreon.com/jabzy

[@henyz1210]

I think it would be very interesting if China in this period could be turned into an all-out war game, because I have seen many characteristic units, such as the armies of ethnic minorities such as Hui, Tibetan, Mongolian and Zhuang, the eight flag army using knives and spears, the Beiyang army and the new army using modern weapons, and the Kung Fu army such as the Yihetuan, In addition, there are the armies of Russia, the United States, Britain, Germany and Japan, as well as various political factions of warlords scattered everywhere...... It's just fun to imagine

[@user-xw8yq5xr8l]

Not quite a game, but there's a mod for HOI4, Warlord Era, focusing just on China of the period.

[@user-qb6gt8iw2t]

@@user-xw8yq5xr8l 八年抗戰🤣

[@ultraveridical]

Tremendous video!

[@newerfor]

There was another important figure in Chinese history - Zhang Zhidong. He was a rather open minded and progressive high ranking Qing governor, under his watch, the seed of revolution was planted among the "new armies" in Hubei and Hunan province. Sun Yat-sen might be recognized as the founding father of RoC, but it was the Hubei army made it all possible.

[@flyingbirdskingcloud2908]

Zhang Zhidong is a native of Guizhou Province in the southwest region.

[@harelkalifa2451]

Great video! Can you make a video about the Great game? I know you have a short one, but can you make a long one going all the way since the beginning of the napoleonic wars, to the end of ww1? I mean, it sounds a little bit like a proto- cold war, involving all countries in the world, especially in Asia, but the general Russo- British relations were very interesting in 1798- 1917.

[@animation1234111]

Is Sun Yat Sen the most revolutionary revolutionary in history? Who else can claim this many under their belt?

[@robezy0]

Yeah he's also the only modern Chinese politician who is highly respected on both the Mainland and Taiwan

[@realrhetoric]

He basically had a franchise selling a dream of a great big ever growing China, under exclusive Han management a dream he sold to well-heeled expat Chinese by tugging on their loyalty heartstrings. (China was in a mess then, and it was your duty as a loyal Chinese to give some money to Sun to make it all better.) When the Qing collapsed and he found himself handed the keys to the casino, he fumbled. Not his fault, really, I don't expect he ever dreamed he'd have to try to make good on all those promises.

[@mxn1948]

@@realrhetoric i dont think you can blame him too much though. from his view it was either bloody civil war that could last decades or hand the presidency to yuan who seem to have pro-republican ideas at the time and could control the military, in return for a peaceful transition of power from the imperial leadership. of course hindsight is 20/20 and yuan tried to make himself emperor and muti-decades long civil war happened anyways but sun couldn't have known at the time./

[@realrhetoric]

@@mxn1948 Ruling paradigms don't change in a decade or two. The government of China is still understood by itself to be a continuation of the Dynasties that preceded it; as an outsider, viewing the current government as the Dynasty Mao founded still best explains all subsequent behaviour. You're right, though. Founding a dynasty in China is no mean feat, and that Sun Zhong-shan wasn't up for it -- or the time wasn't right (depending on how you look at it) -- shouldn't detract from an evaluation.

[@CongSu]

@@mxn1948 Sun never had that choice, Yuan had already defeated the revolutionaries, he just didn’t deal the final blow because he needed the excuse to pressure Qing to abdicate. If Sun didn’t accept, Yuan would probably skip the pretence and crown himself emperor directly.

[@ivantheteribul]

6:11 was a more ambitious crossover than Avengers.

[@Ashina_03]

Awesome!!

[@SanTM]

Very educational!

[@MiuoTheTroll]

Now this is just great!

[@laurencekennedy325]

Can you cover the history after this video never knew how interesting the history of china really was and would love to learn more

[@djoleprolece7524]

Thank you.

[@Lawrance_of_Albania]

There is so much turmoil and rebelions, that i am starting to belive balkans is an very piecefull place

[@ayami123]

I give you props that you started the Warlord Period, well you can't really name every warlord, It will be a Map Gore Hahaha So I'm fine with this.Nice

[@rocknrollkid90]

Including, the second, Sino-Japanese War, along with World War II, and the Chinese Civil War.

[@laszlomiskei9138]

This is a good monday :)

[@bernardfinucane2061]

In the pinyin transliteration, C is always soft, pronounced more or less like TS, but never like K. Q is pronounced much like the English CH sound, and never like K, and X ist something like SH.

[@christopherdonaghue2461]

I was just about to make such a comment. It's the inability of most video makers to even try to pronounce Mandarin properly that has always prevented me from being able to enjoy them. I usually give up as soon as I hear my first needlessly butchered pronunciation. I understand it's not going to be perfect (three years with the language and my pronunciation isn't absolutely perfect), but if one is not going to even try, how can I trust one to have tried with the historical research that went into the video? All it takes is a quick look at the opening pages of a lot of popular history books to find out the general guidelines for pronunciation, or a Chinese language textbook, most of which start with a chapter on phonetics.

[@Polli_Apple]

and the E is never "ee"...

[@Y81715]

@Jabzy. Hi, a very thoughtful and nice intro to the period. Just a little feedback: although I'm sure you will fair just fine. In my opinion it is way too fast paced. Feels like you sped up your audio even. You can say more with less, let the graphics complement you, not just repeat what you've said already. It is a lot of information in 31 mins, you deserve to have something visually to frame the time-periods - and some color-codes for characters and their representation on the map as example, or just flags/emblems. I'd also say that it wouldn't hurt with a historical photo or two, also to split up the video in a few chronological chapters. Your characters (and flags) are wonderfully animated and handdrawn! thanks. Thanks for acknowledging the great importance of Euro- and Russian anarchism in early Chinese socialist movements.

[@Mrnewkrakbo]

Amazing

[@lukasaren7584]

Very good video :)

[@codyshi4743]

When comparing China of today to China back then, I'm amazed at how much transformation and changes that China has gone through, to become the China that we know today.

[@alexv3357]

Surprisingly enough too, almost all of that growth and development has happened since 1980.

[@codyshi4743]

True. Right now they’re still growing and changing.

[@wingkeungkong415]

@@alexv3357 after the。64 Movement China has no more political uphaven anymore

[@alexv3357]

@@wingkeungkong415 I think you may be forgetting the brutally-suppressed upheaval of 1989

[@wingkeungkong415]

@@alexv3357 They are the red. guard if they are in power million Chinese will die they would just stop the modernization of China

[@epicworldespanol8312]

What is the name of the music? is so good and relaxing

[@ChrisDavisonAndrewsteve]

love the music!

[@VikingLord101]

What is the background music?

[@joeedge576]

No mention of Jiang Jieshi (know as Chang Kai-shek in the west), but mention Mao ? ? ?

[@snczsw1555]

In fact，Mao Zedong was anarchist when he was young，but change to communist when 27（by his friend Cai Hesen，who killed by KMT in1931）

[@adefay2811]

I think that's just the natural progression of life. If you still have the same political views in your older years then you need more life experiences.

[@anestisparastatidis3714]

Ah finally you did it!

[@kimok4716]

This map of China is just gorgeous

[@alexross1816]

Poor Italy, man. Always getting laughed out of every room.

[@matthewbadley5063]

What I find curious is why the Japanese waited until the 30s to begin encroaching on China (after the KMT had mostly already unified china) instead of attacking in the 00s during the fall of the Qing, or during the 20s when the country was falling apart to warlords.

[@hanhai8515]

Every time Japan tried to encroach on China, it was stopped/limited by western powers, they had to fight russia to get manchruia in 1905. Even if they gain a territory, they were forced to give back to western powers(mentioned in the video). Western influence only got weaker in the 1920s after WW1, still the US actualy became more influencial. Also, it took time to assimilate territories, they spent a very long time trying to develop/industrialize Manchuria and Taiwan. These two places had a lot of resource but not a lot of Chinese population. They were building factories and gathering resources. Also, there was an internal conflict in Japan, the navy wanted to expand into south east asia, and fight the US in the Pacific. While the infantry was the branch wanting to keep pushing forward in China.

[@craftworded]

Japan did encroach earlier by taking all of manchuria and forcing demands on the KMT

[@matthewbadley5063]

@@craftworded that was in the 30s

[@royhuang9715]

Japan did try in 1900s, and it ran into Russia empire. Conflict of interest between the 2 caused 1904-1905 Russian Japanese war. But fearing Japanese expansion into China, western power prevented Japanese from expanding its territories within China even though it has won the war. Japanese tried again in 1915 with their 21 demands. But those demands would hurt profit margin for Britain and USA, so China leaked those demands to the public and western powers, pressure from Great Britain and USA prevented Japanese expansion into China again. Japanese started another attempt after WW1. In 1920s, Japanese again tried to take over ShanDong, this time European power agreed to Japanese expansion but newly established Chinese republic strongly protested (China never ratified treaty of Versailles because of this). USA was also not happy because Japanese expansion in China and western pacific threatened US interests. So in 1922, US, Japan and China reached an agreement that sovereignty of ShanDong is still with China, Japanese were given favorable economics rights. If you read enough history, there is nothing curious. Japanese tried multiple times and failed multiple times. It’s just in the 1930s they succeeded due to western power greatly weakened by Great Depression. To summarize, everyone wanted a part of China, but they couldn’t agree on how to divide China, in the end they decide nobody should have part of China. And whoever tried will face opposition from everyone else.

[@taotan9986]

@@royhuang9715受伤的只有中国

[@user-iq1vo6pv5w]

Song name?

[@darkjoe8150]

Great 👍

[@JD78CN]

Duan Qirui, was our neighbor in Tianjin. My dad was good friends with his kids. My family was pretty involved in the warlord era.

[@musAKulture]

this...is insane! i applaud.

[@pavelthefabulous5675]

Seeing the Qing dynasty fall really makes me appreciate Mustafa Kemal (Ataturk). He did what China could not do, and like the Chinese, he also faced a combined Western coalition.

[@Andreazor]

"Doubt everything" except us and what we say.

[@donovan5656]

Someone needs to make a full on GoT style TV show about this time period. It's so dense with conflict.

[@lzeng78]

Gosh, it is so painful every time i watch this part of chinese history

[@Justin-rv7oy]

Poor Italy 🇮🇹 😢 you should do a video on their China misadventure. Great video btw.

[@Orlando_P]

And belgium and austria-hungary

[@Vienna3080]

I do find it funny and sad how Wang Jingwe went from Anarchism to Japanese Fascism

[@arthas640]

it made a bit more sense at the time. The KMT used to cover most of the political spectrum with far left and far right factions, the Japanese in the early 20th century used to advocate for a pan-Asian alliance to counter the west, the advocated investing in other east asian nations to develop them, and they were originally pretty anti imperialist and they were modernists. Fascism itself went through similar changes, at various points it was more "third way" ie not really far left or far right but rather a blending of the 2 and it was later in the late 30s that it became mainly far right although it still incorprated plenty of policies that were shared with far left ideologies like striving for autarky, nationalizing key industries, and fighting against capitalism and liberalism. His dalliance with anarchism is kind of hard to take seriously, it was while he was a foreign student back around the turn of the century and at the time anarchism was pretty diverse and divided even within single countries: often (such as in Russia) it was more of an anti-establishment and anti-imperialist ideology with people joining mainly out of those motivations then for any real ideals of creating an anarchist state which is why so many people started out as anarchists before siding with whatever end of the political spectrum they preferred or happened to be more powerful (such as all the anarchists that quickly joined the communist parties).

[@ThisistheTale]

Too many midroll ads in this last part man

[@mr.spartankeysersozemacbet5327]

It's crazy how many simultaneous uprisings there were

[@arthas640]

that happens pretty often. Central government gets weakened and tons of preexisting tensions all ignite conflicts at the same time. Look at Russia in the 1910 and 1920s: they had over a dozen uprisings outside of modern day Russia with Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, and others breaking away with some tried but failed to break away. China had tons of turmoil and the peasants were upset over tons of injustices so they had numerous populist uprisings. Even "single" uprisings like the Taiping rebellion involved a bunch of unrelated groups rebelling at once and even the Taiping heavenly kingdom itself was more of a loose coalition of pissed off peasants rather than a single cult as people often view it. There were also a ton of ethnic groups like the Tibetans, various Turkic peoples, and others who wanted to break away and were more or less occupied by the Qing and hated them, the Turkic Dzungar for example were pretty much genocided out of existence by the Qing

[@Mr_Zoomy]

If you play Victoria 2, you know it's because once they become civilised they become warlords

[@Howlingburd19]

One thing I’m positive about is the Qing Dynasty has one of the coolest flags ever

[@aceofhearts573]

Make an episode on Manchukuo and thr collaborationist Chinese during WW2

[@geraldmeehan8942]

John Hay from Salem, Indiana.

[@KageNoTenshi]

Qing were already weaken by their own system of paying so much to the noble class that no longer served their purpose, and from their closing off trade since the beginning of their dynasty, they fell way behind technologically

[@arthas640]

It's almost hilarious how tenuous their control was, basically everyone thought China and the Qing were too big to fail so few ever rebelled or attacked them. They were a complete paper tiger for centuries and fell behind massively to the point that they couldn't stop a handful of European smugglers bringing in Opium and when they went to war with the British they thought they could crush them but got humiliated despite outnumbering the British by more than 10 to 1. Even China's "elite" Green Standard Army was humiliated when they faced the "barbarian" British. The Qing were among the most arrogant and overconfident rulers of the modern era. Even Chinese historians note that the quality of life and technology level of most of China barely changed from the Medieval Age and Ming Dynasty until the late 19th and early 20th century. If you look at life of colonial America for example even the poorer people in America had a quality of life comparable to a middle class Chinese person or better: a person in the US could fairly easily start a farm with land they owned and build a house and family with the rights of a freeman, something that only middle or upper middle class Chinese of the time could do and if that American was smart he could rise up into the upper classes fairly easily (Alexander Hamilton for example was dirt poor, taught himself to read and do math, became a middle class clerk in childhood and eventually died as one of the highest ranking officials in the US) which is something no Chinese person could even dream of.

[@senorwaluigi8515]

Thanks for saving my shitty Workday! Great Job and Research as always.

[@blankmoment2]

for a video about history of china, this had an suprising number of quote and mentioning of communism.

[@Dedog0]

I really like your videos Jabzy, content-wise and visually I really appreciate the effort and research that went into this. Yet, there are some issues with this episode that make it hard to listen to. For one your sentence/paragraph structure is rather weak, you keep repeating "And" and "And again" way too many times. I think you should try to avoid repetition when it comes writing the beginning of a sentence. Also there were some minor errors related to this, such as using a limited vocabulary and repeating things in the same sentences. My second issue is with your pronunciation of the chinese names. It's kind of hard to follow when you dont seem to know how to read the pinyin or Wade-Giles romanization. No one expects you to speak chinese well, such as knowing the tones or the differences between zh,ch,sh and j,q,x, but it makes it hard to follow when you dont pronounce the names consistently. I suggest that if you deal with chinese names in the future, you look up the "Mandarin Chinese Pinyin Chart with Audio" of the chinese yabla website, or alternatively read the yales romanizations for the chinese names by converting them from pinyin to yales. Yales has much more accurate results of pronounciation when read by an english speaker than pinyin or wales-giles. With all this criticism out of the way. Really fantastic series, enjoyed it immensely! Well done.

[@JabzyJoe]

The numerous ands and buts annoy me. I often write scripts without them but im awful and recording and it takes me numerous attempts. So eventually i break up longer sentences into these annoying chunks. I am trying to work on it though.

[@johnchan4136]

US historians, after the End of History was declared on the night before the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989, decided to change the old way of categorizing world history into four civilizations, namely Chinese, Babylon, Iranian and Indus, to only the Mediterrean Civilization and the North East Asian Civilization. One US historian from the University of Pennsyvania complained that soon after WWI, the West should not have rushed to blatantly advancing the plan of partitioning China by turning the German annexed territory in Shandong Province over to Japan despite the fierce opposition from the Chinese diplomatic representatives during the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 to 1920. The fully authorized Chinese delegation represented by the 27-year old diplomat, Gu Weijun, though raised and educated in the US since 6 years old made a one hour long passionate speech in English appealing to the West of not to play with Chinese territory. But on the other hand, the Western audience, while approving the speech made by the Japanese representative asking to take over the German territory in China as part of their conditions to support the Paris Peace Treaty, praised the Japanese culture being much more aligned with the West as the Japanese language is a close resemblance of the English. Apparently they didn't understand a single of English that the Japanese representing uttering during the speech. But they made up their mind without consulting the Chinese anyway. As a result, the news of Gu Weijun refusing to sign off the Paris Peace Treaty of Versailles in 1920 was telegraphed back to China the same day and protests erupted across the country with all schools and universities being shutdown. This is the famous and most pivotal May 4 Campaign of 1919 in the Chinese History. Students and teachers dashed to the streets days and nights for months, holding cards full of anti west slogans. Dr. Sun Yat-sen told the country from top to bottom to adopt the policy of "unionizing with Russian and adapting to communism" ~「聯俄容共」. From thereon, Chinese intellectuals plunged themselves into studying the reform experience of the Qin state prior to their uniting China under the Qin Dynasty in 220 BBC. Chinese Commumist Party came into being in 1921. On October 1 of 1949, Chairman Mao Zedong declared: "Chinese people are now organized". In 1953, one million Chinese voluntary soldiers defeated the heavily equipped US led alliance troops of half million strong in the Korean peninsula, using merely hand guns and grenades. China is now one of the leading countries in the world steadfastly fighting against opium and other illegal drugs. 1842 was the turning point for China as Britain started to have a free hand to pour opium into the country while the Qing government continued to be kidnapped by its silver based currency with importation of silver billions from the Phillipines and Mexico. Imagine couple of foreign gun boats with few hundred soldiers can quickly put the Chinese government on its knees by imposing a trade embargo using their naval might without engaging the groung troops. What a deal! They could stop the governing machine by stopping the silver trade. That's why the Qing government was doomed due to the currency issue never being modernised in the first place in the whole of 1800. None of these countries that tried to colonize China dared to take on China with one bite. The 5000 strong UK Royal army as part of the alliance force got decimated in the Korean War between 1951 to 1953 while the Turkish troops of 3000 never went home since then. The 4 million heavily armoured troops from Japan was defeated and literally obliterated in the vast expanse of Chinese territory, with or without the US help from 1937 to 1945. They thought they could swallow China in 3 days and the West got jealous and worried. The Rape of Nanking in 1937 by the Japanese army with 300,000 local people slaughtered and women from age 9 to 80 raped and killed indiscriminately. It never bothered anyone in the West. But The West finally started to realize that the Sino Japanese war helps unite the country from Lhasa to Beijing and Harbin to Guilin with all walks of life. They did not want to let the world to see China could defeat Japan on its own. So the US interfered in 1941 and took away the credit in winning over Japan. Napoleon once warned the West not to wake up the sleeping Lion. The West not only did once in 1942, but continued to do it over and over again in 1895, 1920, 1937 and 1951. Finally, Chinese tested it's hydrogen bomb in 1963, one year after its successful atomic bomb in 1962, without the help from any Jewish scientists. Finally the world ushered China into the global stage of a geopolitical war game, with two other players, US and USSR. But by 1965, China started to help Tanzania and Zambia to build their 2000 km cross border railway so they could start exporting their copper ore. In 1913, President Xi Jingping of China announced in Kazakhstan and Indonesia the world "One Belt One Road" infrastructure program to help countries develop by partaking China's economic archievments.

[@Palmakify]

Maybe do a series on How to Unify a Country? China, Germany, Italy, USA, and maybe one day Afghanistan.

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Russia 🇷🇺 in 15th century

[@The-Man23]

嘩，勁！

[@jstantongood5474]

De Cheng -sounds like "duh chung" not dee. Qi- sounds mostly like English chee. Shi -sounds like The English unstressed schwa sound. Like first syllable in Shazaam. Cai sounds like tsai.

[@TheLoyalOfficer]

Damn - that's some crazy, complex shit. The Century of Humiliation in China is probably the most complicated 100 or so years of any country ever.

[@rickyboii5971]

Many dont realize, but the chinese civil war never ended.

[@Mavendow]

TL;DL version: Everything went wrong, nobody could agree on WHAT was going wrong, but that was mostly an excuse to collect kickbacks. Did I miss anything?

[@mciamx3]

The English translation of all the names was so confusing, you should at least display the Chinese names in the video for better understanding.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Fists of Harmony and Justice...

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Chinese Version of Fight Club

[@aleksandarvil5718]

First Rule of Fists of Harmony and Justice Club: *You Never Talk About Fists of Harmony and Justice Club.*

[@julieannspas518]

Watch Battle of Changsha series in eng sub for the right perspective,

[@anarchopupgirl]

Hell yes! Kropotkin! My main man!

[@anarchopupgirl]

I have to say, from my reading on the matter in the past, the Frugal work-study movement was a but of an embarassment to anarchists. Poor organisation and understanding of the state of modern France led to lots of students ending up working awful underpaid factory work to pay their way back, where they'd expected a fascinating education on france's Liberal Revolution. I suppose they got that in a way.

[@eatathepizza4449]

@@anarchopupgirl well yeah everything is a failure in anarchy

[@thijsbergman2424]

You value ads more than history

[@phatlewt2932]

Chinese history be like: the country loses to a foreign power, revolts happen in the south and west, emperor li mia fei is deposed, ching mu dong seizes power but resigns and dies shortly after, manchuria is occupied

[@ElBandito]

Cai is pronounced as Tsai.

[@ayouthinasia4105]

With a recent history like this, authoritarianism that can unite the country and make people rich along the way doesn't seem like a bad idea.

[@royhuang9715]

While the Chinese tried everything; monarchy, constitutional monarchy, dictatorship, democratic republic, democratic communist, authoritarianism and authoritarianism with a twist (collective leadership: aka current Chinese government, power is shared between high ranking party officials to prevent another Mao from taking over the party). China experienced all kinds of government and settled on authoritarianism as the only way to reunite China. In a weird way, the Chinese people democratically elected authoritarianism as their government. That’s the reason Chinese authoritarian government was more stable than western think tank predicted.

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

@@royhuang9715 china has a history with authoritarianism, ie mandate of heaven thing essentially says the emperor has absolute power since he is the son of heaven until he doesnt

[@royhuang9715]

@@Cecilia-ky3uw you clearly haven’t learned Chinese history. Towards the end of Qing dynasty, efforts was made to transfer the dynasty into a constitutional monarchy like Japan and many European countries at that time. However this effort failed. Then Qing dynasty collapsed and replaced by a republic, this new republic didn’t last long due to the raise of military dictatorship (regional warlords). A democratic republic was established in south China, and a 2 party system was created (communist/nationalist party). However this democratic republic didn’t survive, right winger in the nationalist transformed this new republic into a military dictatorship by killing communists, left wing nationalists and political opponents. Thus communist created their own government a democratic communist system (this is before Mao came to power). However the inefficiency and miss management of this communist democracy almost resulted in its destruction. And Mao came to power slowly reshaped the democracy into a dictatorship. After the devastating Great Leap Forward and culture revolution, communist leadership adapted collective leadership structure to prevent another Mao like dictator devastating the country. China experienced a lot different governing system in the past 150 years.

[@Cecilia-ky3uw]

@@royhuang9715 but for msot of its history it has been ruled by central monarch usually with legalist doctrine powers

[@royhuang9715]

@@Cecilia-ky3uw so? For most of human history slavery was legalized practice, is that still the case? Not really. Looking back 3000 years for political system is retarded.

[@tonytomato100]

The fist of harmony and justice is better known as the boxer society

[@randylee9267]

What such a sad history for China. I don't see any country bullying China now!!

[@zainmudassir2964]

wonder what would have happened if Yuan Shikai didn't try to become Emperor in 1916 which led to revolts and warlord era. Maybe a United China under Military rule when Japanese decided to invade and harder for Communists to come to power

[@avus-kw2f213]

10:15 what do you expect Tom & jerry wouldn’t be invented for years

[@alexandergangaware429]

You can't flog a eunuch. That's kinda the point

[@vanders4198]

Wish I could support Zhang Xun!

[@danielarevalo6222]

what kind friendly nations

[@wrtekcz538]

29:44 BASED GIGACHAD MENTIONED