Why did the Vikings lose to the Rams? K.O.C.

[@MikeHolicky-pc5he]

I'm tired of the national media gushing over KOC. You nailed it about him. He's a nice quarterback coach, not head coach material. I'd love to see Aaron Glenn in there

[@ajred8870]

That is so unbelievably stupid

[@jasonreimer4742]

Why cuz he makes sense

[@jasonreimer4742]

U couldn't be more correct Anyone that disagrees u don't deserve a suberbowl.....period...and you'll obviously never get one....u ar as soft as they are

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

You can blame Darnold for coming up small in two big games. But it's the coach who wouldn't abandon his deep-drop, vertical passing game while his quarterback was getting killed.

[@Carl-oc7dw]

Everyone seems to get it except for the coaching staff.

[@stevenedelstein1495]

The Vikings don’t have the roster yet, to compete with teams with elite teams in the NFL. The last two games showed this. Time will tell if the Vikings address those holes in the roster. KOC and the GM stated that he wants to win championships. If they do, the GM and the management need to bring in the right players and assemble a more complete roster on both sides of the ball. They can use the draft and free agency.

[@user-ADystop]

and callings runs 18 points behind

[@user-wj9bz8xi9u]

Agreed, its up to the coach to call plays to get their qb into a rhythm.

[@ajred8870]

Bullshit. Go watch the tape. Almost every time he got sacked he had someone open or the dump off was open. Average time to throw was over 3.2 seconds which is top for all QBs. Don’t know shit about football if you put most the blame on KOC.

[@CogitoErgoSum2024]

You are 100% right. The KOC culture is far too soft.

[@randallmullens899]

As a 50 plus year fan of the Vikings, I wasn't shocked at all. I expected it, I knew it was over halfway through the first quarter.

[@savasbeatie7675]

I remember the first Vikings Super Bowl so I am right there with you

[@barrystricklin2230]

Same here viking fan 50 years they always rip your heart out l will always be a viking but it's rough l think the play calling is awful along with the OL

[@stevec5671]

Solidly in Team DNA.

[@stevec5671]

​@@mikeflorence31Yes, stupid as it was to say. I called it after first series. What is with this Damn run on first down 90%. Planet Earth knows Vikes are doing it.

[@eaglesnest411]

We need to toughen the hell up! This Minnesota nice crap is beyond old!

[@grantbauer4553]

Koc got punched in the mouth by weak playoff team. Let's see how he responds.

[@GasStationToilet]

Vikes haven’t been a physical team in decades. They lack toughness and grit. Also fire or trade KOC.

[@user-ADystop]

I never trusted KOC. His play calling and clock management are atrocious. He's soft, the team is never ready for playoff games, he seems unconcerned about the problems in both trenches, and his pop verbiage is getting tiring.

[@Johnhargrove18]

The team isn’t even ready in the regular season. Winning games by one score for the 3rd straight year isn’t sustainable. Absolutely no desire to run up the score or play with a lead.

[@thomaspower221]

2:00 this immediate gave all the energy to the Rams, and they never gave up this momentum. The bad call on the Vikings sack/fumble touchdown was the nail in the coffin for game momentum. Heck Vikings looked anemic in both of the last two games. Toughness, I think metaphorically speaking, this team has Low-T. Vikings need a culture change. I have heard from comments that the Vikings reflect "Minnesota Friendly", and have little chance to play a level of playoff intensity.

[@freedomfighter6549]

When are we going to build this O-Line? We have a pass happy Coach with an O-Lines that can't pass protect, oxymoron!!!!

[@jeffskalicky7634]

Koc is the problem. Lacks intensity needed for the job of hc. Cannot make tough decisions. Should have benched Darnold for sake of team. We need a complete rebuild as Shiela Ford did in Detroit. Hired outside consultants and specifically picked HC n GM. 3 to 5 yr plan. Brilliant!

[@huanweili7699]

No run game, no quick screen pass, no quick route pass, nothing!!!! Just having Sam stand there waiting for 20yards route run to open lol . KoC SUCK!!!!

[@CogitoErgoSum2024]

KOC needs to be fired or demoted to head of PR. He’s good at coach speak, pep talks, political correct answers, but his play calling, clock management, in game adjustments or lack there of is horrendous. Hi! We are down by 300, let’s just take our sweet time and run the ball again, no need for a hurry up offense. I’m just done with him. He never changes. It’s been the same story for three years.

[@ezzd43]

Im a Rams fan. Viking fans need to chill. A young headcoach took your team to the playoffs with a first-time post-season backup QB. Do you really believe that they SHOULD have won this game? Viking won 14 games this season. Give them time and they will be fine.

[@savasbeatie7675]

Kevin Ocassio Connell Lol freaking hilarious

[@Cyber_Scorpion]

So accurate I couldn’t even finish the video. Cheers man see you next season

[@wiredranchvideo]

Wear #22 - in honor of Paul Krause (whose jersey should have been retired before Hapless Harrison took it over)…

[@boxcarent.3147]

KOC is a whimp.

[@drewstar412]

Does KOC allow Flores to call the defensive plays? Otherwise, how come Flores does not get his fair share of the blame, for his defense not covering Puka Nacua? Or, is it defensive player execution? Or a combination of all of these. I heard some Viks fans call out Flores for allowing Nacua getting open AGAIN!. Like there was no adjustment to shut or slow Nacua down.

[@TheEasyriderman]

I agree with you totally. KOC is weak and too soft.

[@Johnhargrove18]

Harrison smith was finished after the 2017 nfc championship. Philly reportedly found a coverage mismatch and personally attacked him all night. I remember seeing that double move ertz did on him before halftime and I was like damn.

[@elizaisacatgirl809]

I would have no problem firing KOC and giving the head coaching job to Flores. The defense was the reason the viking won 14 games and actually played the last 2 games way better than the offense.

[@Win7ermu7e]

You want a defensive specialist to develop JJMac. You really know football.

[@elizaisacatgirl809]

​@Win7ermu7e and you would rather have a head coach that can't win a playoff game.

[@Johnhargrove18]

@@Win7ermu7eDan Quinn is doing fine,Ryan’s in Houston lmao

[@RURAL_MN_UP_NORTH]

Well said about Harrison. Honestly feels like our defense has 10 players. Only time I ever see him in camera view is when he blitzes. Never understood why he automatically starts back peddling 30 yards at the start of every play.

[@andrebriscoe2272]

The blueprint is to punch us in the face and watch us fall apart.

[@thesuperioraffection4502]

Works on soy boys and soft, finesse, teams.

[@andrebriscoe2272]

@thesuperioraffection4502 and wildcard jobbers.

[@CNclov2005]

@@thesuperioraffection4502we are like the Miami dolphins but up north

[@andrebriscoe2272]

​ I think we're the nfc's version of the Steelers...one and done..​@@CNclov2005

[@hunniebe6]

The post game response of two coaches who's QB's played poorly. O'Connell - “I just want to say it’s very important we all think about Sam’s body of work, what he was able to do this year, when not many people thought he would be able to lead a team to 14 wins,” O’Connell said. “It did not work out in the end, and I think Sam would be the first one to tell you, could he have played better tonight? I’m sure he would tell you he could have." Harbaugh - "We did him a disservice and didn't put him in the positions to be successful enough, but he played like a beast. … There's nobody in this entire organization who gives more blood, sweat and tears and contributes more, produces more for the entire organization than Justin Herbert." Poser vs real coach.

[@garrythomaz743]

The Vikings Lost Because The Running Game Was Ineffective , The O - Line Was Weak And The Quarterback Didn't Play Well

[@danielsharp3683]

Not

[@northstarstatepolitics1652]

This season is the quintessential KOC/Kwesi season: Have a great regular season with some questions about legitimacy after losing to other good teams, followed by a complete collapse in the playoffs.

[@andrebriscoe2272]

Wildcard jobbers 😡😡

[@Artic.fam5]

I also agree on KOC and the first play , I said it to the wife , he looks like he thinks were going to lose .

[@zepps88]

I agree with the body language. The entire game KOC had that hopeless look on his face like the game was already over.

[@ajred8870]

When your QB can’t even throw a screen pass that happens

[@sanchoy]

In the words of the late Denny Green "Vikes are who we thought they were". Backup QB, weak O line, Defense that was exposed over and over again. Many of these games they got lucky. No surprise here at all.

[@dylanroberts93]

Can we please!!!! Fix the OL!!! It’s been an issue for years!!!

[@chadmyron2552]

The Vikings are a finesse team. Finesse teams can do well in the regular season, but the playoffs are for tough teams. We haven’t imposed our will on any team in a long time. Until we toughen up in the trenches, this is where we will be..

[@freedomfighter6549]

This team lacks onions.

[@dennisreeve8859]

The genie is out of the bottle!(Lamp) Persian translation! Too short of a wick!

[@rodlamont3736]

Numerous bad decisions from koc is a nice place to start !!!....king of horrible decisions at the perfect time !!!! Its like the opponents 12th man !!!! I agree with this guy 100 percent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@frankgaitan2702]

I love a good conspiracy theory, but how many people would think that KOC deliberately called a bad game so he can get JJ his guy that he drafted on board

[@derrellbray]

Its rigged Come on 9 sacks from a 14-3 team LMAO

[@ginjazz4179]

Good points. I seriously doubt KOC will get us to a Superbowl as well. But again, 30 years ago Denny Green won many games and lost his first 3 playoff games. So is it really the personnel? After 50 years of coaching changes, player changes, and even ownership changes, the results don't change. Must be some other variable we don't see.

[@mgrahom5443]

Its called minnesota nice. it needs to be replaced.

[@80sbaby90sraisedme]

Thats because Roger Goodell alredy told KOC to lose this game so we already lost before the game started #RIGGED

[@MarkMay-cr6bv]

Are those tinfoil hats comfortable, or do they chafe? Asking for a friend.

[@djr260]

Usually you're funny but I sense the seriousness in this video and have to agree with you reference KOC... His expressions were very telling early in the game and very disappointing end to the season

[@JarrettxForte]

Play Calling & Darnold Holding On To the Ball Too Long Looking Confused. 💯🎯

[@derrellbray]

Rigged

[@colebroms]

I've been watching since the chilly report when chilly was here and gotta agree with everything you said in this video it makes perfect sense. But unfortunately that might have been "hitman's" last game

[@usernametaken5619]

Vikings are soft as charmin tissue paper. It starts at the HC and goes down into the team. Regular season heroes that get their lunch money stolen from them in the playoffs by tough teams that are hard as nails.

[@Nmp317]

Too many nice guys nobody from the Vikings you would want with u in a dark alley

[@WilRumble]

Great diagnosis, Chilly, from this 6-decade Vikings fan. Complete Vikings no-show, as a collective, in the last two games; as you say, "the most important time." A lot of fixing to do.

[@ThomasTorrence-yb9nh]

I hope KOC do not hand out any more NFL footballs in the after games locker rooms wins until they get in the playoffs.

[@Ultramentsh]

I thought it was hilarious. After his quarterback was put on the ground to nine times. He said.. well Sam could have played better. He would have played better if you didn't let him get sacked nine times

[@2Evil2Hope]

KOC needs to be fired if he loses his next playoff appearance

[@GasStationToilet]

@@mikeflorence31I agree fire him now. Tired of the locker room speeches.

[@Artic.fam5]

Soon as the Poor LA crap started on the pre game , I knew we would lose. Reminds me of poor New Orleans and hurricane katrina and we lost .

[@TheEasyriderman]

It would be a mistake if the Vikings signed both KOC and Kwesi to extension, because Kevin O’Connell doesn’t know how to win games.

[@derrellbray]

Won 14 then got scripted out as usual

[@huanweili7699]

I have never seen a team who won 14 wins and lost in the first playoff run. It wasn't even just a loss. It was a shot out. Lol 😅

[@geemac7267]

If your happiness is going to depend on this team winning a Super Bowl, you're not going to be happy. Lower your expectations and don't engage with other fans on the internet if you want peace in your life. I'm being serious.

[@mikegreitzer820]

Yeah. Read some STOIC lit--it's a boys game

[@larryv.83]

Good stuff my friend! It's really hard to believe that Darnold, an MVP candidate 2 weeks ago, suddenly cannot play QB, taking 9 sacks and missing open receivers.! You have to ask why? Poor offensive line, maybe. Poor execution, maybe! For my money, it was poor coaching the last few games that did him in! Coach O'Connell was outmatched, outsmarted and out schemed! Darnold was the victim of a coach who let him down when it mattered most. I think McVay taught him a very nasty lesson. I hope he learned something, I have my doubts 😮

[@sandyhawkins9279]

The Vikings were cruising for a bruising, and what I mean is Sam is a QB who can have a championship if the team does not put a lot of weight on him. Therefore, he had success for most of the season, but December football and the playoffs is a beast the Vikings are not ready for, they need either a QB1 who can be Superman or they need to surround the QB with the right quality players, for just one example, the Vikings need a high level rb1, a young fast player who take it to the house

[@UncleJavi]

Yep. Ocasio cortez is a girly coach.

[@clydenolan5835]

As a long time Viking fan, this has been the story of this team. They have failed to address the offensive line for years. When was the last time this team had a true franchise quarterback? I hope that JJ is that quarterback but, that remains to be seen. This team lacks toughness and has no identity. They get punched in the mouth and have no idea how to punch back.

[@derrellbray]

The Vikings organization have been trying since 1961 to get it together and win a Superbowl. ONLY logical conclusion ITS RIGGED LOL

[@coachking2398]

100% FACTS

[@scottduyser1222]

They lost to Rams because the lions the week before took in from them mentally and physically. It's called nothing left in the tank

[@mikepivero3133]

Absolutely nailed it 💪😎

[@spol]

We got punched in the mouth a few times and didn’t know how to handle it.

[@JTown-tv1ix]

Serious question, was he trying to lose on purpose?

[@Isosceles8818]

I wonder the same thing. Only thing that makes any sense of our lack of urgency and why KOC looked defeated in the face from the very start of the game.

[@patjohnny57]

Agree with your list although I would also blame the refs for taking away a defensive touchdown. That was a fumble and may have changed the game. We still would've probably lost but not sure.

[@youdagoob]

Let’s remember that we were 0-4 in the red zone against Detroit. And in every one of those someone was WIDE open. Vikes should not have even been playing this game. They should have been resting at home.

[@sdhute]

When the passing game was not working. Why not try more run plays or short passes. The Vikings play calling is too predictable. KOC did not prepare the team for the game. It’s as if they didn’t practice. It’s as if we played the same game against the rams as the lions. Did KOC not want to win? 14 wins means nothing if you can’t even get the division title.

[@brianbresson9833]

Here's a guy that never got picked to play now he is here acting like he knows anything about football 😅

[@RURAL_MN_UP_NORTH]

He knows 100x more than Andy on purple ftw

[@hunniebe6]

@@RURAL_MN_UP_NORTH FTW will shadow ban you if you have a dissenting opinion.

[@Johnhargrove18]

I have a friend who played D1 football and he said koc crumbles when teams bracket JJ. More specifically cover 2.

[@vikingsnewstoday]

💜💛💜💛💜💛

[@JohnMoore-tw6yd]

That's beautiful you must be from South Dakota nobody from Minnesota has that witt they're too busy routing for their GM light trains seals

[@Carl-oc7dw]

If you're QB is getting crushed on every play,,maybe call some roll out plays so atleast he could throw it away and avoid the sack without getting intentional grounding.

[@PointlessRhetoric]

We only lost by a combined 40 something In our consolation playoffs. I'm sure next season I'll be MUCH better!!!!!

[@StillKeepOnLosing]

Kirk's protege tought his son Jjettas well. Bro robbing the sad vikes blind.

[@theblackalbundy3857]

In his defense, Harry broke up a deep pass down the sideline to the TE Long...didn't even get his head around...just went up off instinct...woulda set LA up right in the endzone... can't remember if that ended up being a scoring drive or not...give him that at least 😂...sidenote if and when Harry retires I know your vid celebrating it will be EPICALLY hilarious 😂😂

[@Carl-oc7dw]

Vikings came up the opposite of short.....whatever that word is.

[@TheEasyriderman]

Harrison Smith is a overrated player. He’s white and that is the only reason why he was a fan favorite. At least there was a bright spot to this season that he’s not going out with Championship. This is part of problems with KOC and Mike Zimmer. They keep players like Harrison Smith and CJ Ham. Do the Vikings really need Harrison Smith? They are paying $12 million a season and he’s 34 years old. I think the defense plays better without him. They wasted millions and an active roster space. Millions that could gone to a top tier offensive lineman. Why? Because he’s a fan favorite? CJ Ham is another one. You rarely see him play. You keep him because he’s a nice person and he’s great in the locker room? Nice guys finish last. The Vikings priority should be winning games and winning the Super Bowl. What was KOC and Vikings thinking? That they need to some how to keep Harrison Smith, because it would be story book ending story helping bring a Championship to Harrison Smith before he retires. Can they guarantee they will win Super Bowl? The answer is no. That’s a lot of coaches problems. They keep players that are overpaid and just above productive. Meanwhile they have a younger player who plays with heart and determination and they are paying him less. Sooner or later that younger will not buy into the coaches system once the team starts a losing trend, and why should they care or do more than what they are called upon, when the other player is getting millions more than them. Anyway a new head coach like Jon Gruden would eliminate all the Vikings problems.

[@RURAL_MN_UP_NORTH]

Exactly, a black player with the same skill set and ability as Smith would have been cut years ago. MN for some reason loves its Chad Greenways, Kyle Rudolphs, Brian Robisons, etc.

[@TheEasyriderman]

@RURAL_MN_UP_NORTH Thanks for bringing up those players. I forgot about them. Yes, Chad Greenway was another one.

[@bigdogmn73]

love that shirt

[@cliffordyamasaki6169]

They did a perfect imitation of winers last year,lots of wins,big choke.

[@cliffordyamasaki6169]

What do you expect from a guy who completed 6 passes in his four year nfl career.yeah six

[@stevec5671]

OK.. You convinced Me, and I hate it.!!! 😢

[@mikepivero3133]

Yeah he's a perfect coach for the Vikings 🤣👍

[@thomasbuege8074]

Love your videos but not KOC's fault Darnold can't perform in big games. I think McCarthy having experience in Championship games will have a huge improvement in the postseason going forward. Both Darnold and Cousins did not have a clutch mentality I think JJ has that but has to prove it. Need to improve Oline and Dline and start again next season

[@FlyingStylus]

I agree with your list only the order is out of whack. And as you'd expect I'd remove Harrison Smith. Including him in the list is strange (yes he looked awful on that tackle) but bagging on his career? It makes me wonder if you've watched any amount of Vikings football at all over the past 10 years. Where you are right is that KOC will not get the Vikings to a superbowl. He's too predictable and stubborn. He doesn't play to try to minimize their weaknesses (interior O-Line) by foolishly calling long developing plays. With that said, Darnold either literally watched receivers running wide open or locked on to JJ instead of seeing someone running wide open. Darnold is also confused by blitzes when half-decent QB's salivate and hope for blitzes and throw to the hots or vacated areas all day and practically thank the defense for the free yards. Instead he chose to hold the ball for 5+ seconds almost every single play despite having a horrible interior O-line when even elite lines can't hold up for that long. When he wasn't doing that, he was throwing behind his receivers. It was the worst two game stretch for any vikings QB I have seen. And in some spots Josh Freeman's game was made to look better...

[@RURAL_MN_UP_NORTH]

The only reason he has those interceptions in his stat sheet is because he's out of position and happens to be in the right place at the right time

[@FlyingStylus]

@@RURAL_MN_UP_NORTH HoF numbers because he's so bad that he just lucks into them? Right.

[@kevinkozkoz4348]

I have watched for many years and the dude cannot tackle he throws his shoulder thinks somebody's going to go down!!!!??

[@FlyingStylus]

@ You guys make me rethink my Vikings fandom....

[@thesuperioraffection4502]

KOChoke.

[@nathanpoppen7529]

Darnold can’t make quick reads. KOC knows it. It’s see guy running open and throw or bust for Darnold. People actually thought we were gonna pay this guy 😂

[@kevinfessler6831]

#5 for Sam.....I don't think so, and I like Sam. KOC might be #1, but Sam is a close #2 (probably #1). Dreadful performance. OL is where they should be. Putting Kwesi in the mix is interesting. Maybe if they weren't still devoting dead money cap space to Kirk and Danielle they could have fixed more of the roster issues. Rick was doing that too (pushing $ into future years). Clean slate with JJ next season and lots of cap room available for free agents.

[@davidhoekstra8671]

While I agree with your criticism of the other people on the team, there is no way Darnold was only the No.5 reason they lost.

[@ThomSkee]

The O-line definitely gets more blame.

[@hunniebe6]

@@ThomSkee I decided to torture myself and watch the video of Jared Verse mic'd up. O'neill, Robinson, and Quessenberry were simply abused. They looked like human bowling pins, off balance and unable to gain leverage.

[@davidhoekstra8671]

@@ThomSkee Holding on to the ball for 4+ seconds does the O-line no favors. Not saying Darnold should get all the blame, but he sure deserves a hefty portion,

[@bradredding8521]

Harrison is playing probably his last game. Are going balls out your last day of work

[@fjb2931]

O LINE ALL DAY

[@danielsharp3683]

That's the head coaches fault too!!!!!

[@djr260]

Promote Flores to HC

[@Web_Dev_Guy]

2x they did f in pathetic

[@jerwur39l94]

If you switch kirk with darnald and he performed the way darnald did on monday night, everyone, including me, would say this is on kirk, but it's sam darnald so its all kocs fault i guess. I find that pretty interesting

[@2Evil2Hope]

Are you slow? That's some smooth brain logic buddy.

[@jerwur39l94]

@2Evil2Hope wow, what a smooth brained response. Tell me how I'm wrong, buddy. What a wack response. Just throw an insult while not explaining yourself any slow mo can do that. Sam darnald gets sacked 9 times 6 of those times he held the ball for 4.5 seconds or longer which is an eternity he loses 82 yards by getting sacked which is insane he throws a pick he's barely 50% completion percentage, he gets stripped sacked for a td and that's not on sam darnald? He overthrew a few screen passes. Wide open receivers not being thrown to. He was able to do these things all year long and was great under pressure during the season, so we should change what got us here in the first place? Sam sucks in big games. You're telling me if kirk put up numbers like that and did these things koc would be #1 on the list and kirk would be #5? Your full of it!! Stop watching Dan orlovsky, you sound dumb. Telling me I'm slow and smooth, brained logic. Where's your logic? You just hurl insults. What kind of logic is that?

[@jerwur39l94]

@2Evil2Hope you must be a darnald boy huh. How dare I expect Sam darnald to be competent and do the things he's been doing all season long it's the playoffs that's not fair to ask huh? sam darnald #1 koc #3

[@2Evil2Hope]

@ lol, okay I guess my comment was rather dickish. I just saw someone bringing up the giant waste of space that Cousins was and I said nasty things. I am not a Cousins fan clearly. I actually agree that it''s on KOC and the lack of preparation that was clear the last two games. I want what every fan wants which is a Superbowl win so it's almost more frustrating that we have an amazing season that ends like the one in 2022 against the Giants. I apologize for what I said.

[@jonathanfisher9745]

Also, kirt would have taken 15 sacks and 6 ints.

[@Win7ermu7e]

Utter Bullshit, sorry. Sam choked, KOC doesn't execute plays.

[@mikegreitzer820]

ONE thing to remember. Plan was JJ Mac to follow a veteran. So the injury pushed the brass--AND we did win 14 games, no?

[@mikegreitzer820]

I AM listening!!

[@mwood1012]

When I saw the headline, I naturally assumed it was just another generic temper tantrum post by an impetuous teenage or 20's fanboy who thinks the coaching staff or QB#1 should be fired, completely oblivious to the fact that the consequence of such an imprudent overreaction would be 3 or 4 years of rebuilding team concept & team chemistry. Then I click on the clip only to see a fully grown man boy who apparently who refuses to grow up & instead chose to play the blame game. So, the Vikings lost in the WC round of the playoffs to a better prepared Rams team that was highly motivated because of a lot of intangible elements that any coach would be hard pressed to plan for, namely the emotional charge of a city that lay in ruins & were inspired to represent their loyal fanbase, many of whom had just lost their homes, their livelihoods & even loved ones. Suffice to say that any Rams' opponent would've been up against a powerful force beyond the X's & O's. Here's the deal. Every year in the NFL, there are 29 teams whose seasons either end in a loss or who fail to make the playoffs. By your logic, there would be 29 QB's & 29 HC's looking for employment in the off-season. Someone needs to take a deep breath & take a good look in the mirror BEFORE he starts overhauling his favorite team. You had a really good year. 14-3 is nothing to sneeze at, but they weren't the best nor the hottest team at the end of the regular season & heading into the playoffs. The team, as it stands right now, has plenty to be excited about next season. You f**k that up & the 2024/25 may just be the apex of team success for the next 5 or 10 years. As is, there are high hopes for improving in 2025/26. Take away any critical piece, and the impetus shifts from improving next year to replacing the missing piece of the puzzle. I don't think you thought this through before you posted it & based on an amazing successful season that didn't end the way you hoped, as it doesn't for all but one team at the end, maybe you should have.

[@hunniebe6]

14 wins don't mean nothing when you get bounced in the first round - Jonathan Greenard

[@mwood1012]

@hunniebe6 Really? Ask Raiders & Jaguars fans about that. Maybe you'll be happier to have a team that goes 3-14. That way, you won't have to suffer such indignity

[@hunniebe6]

@@mwood1012 As a former player I agree with Greenard. There are no moral victories. The process is a means to an end. The goal is to win your last game. But you are just a spectator, you can claim victory when ever you choose because you have invested nothing.

[@mwood1012]

@hunniebe6 That's a stupendous leap away from the point. That said, 29 other teams stand by the same principles you mentioned. My comment wasn't even in that ballpark. I said, by his logic, there would be or should be 29 HC's & 29 QB#1's fired whenever they DON'T win the Super Bowl. It has ZERO to do with moral victories. It has EVERYTHING to do with perseverance, team unity. It's about persistence & not firing everyone this fanboy blames for losing in the first round. Btw, I played Div. 1 football, but I didn't think I needed a career resume to make a simple, very valid argument for getting back at it next year. Not gutting the team just because it didn't end the way HE wanted.