Why Did They Hate Sailor Saturn?

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Science Project 99

Science Project 99

5 жыл бұрын

[sorry for the bad audio quality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!] In this rant, we discuss my fav Sailor Saturn being neglected from the 90s Sailor Moon anime!
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Songs:
Intro: Wii Fit Menu Remix (Smash Ultimate)
0:03 "Uranus Soshite Neptune"
0:30 "Zusammen" on German channel, SailorOberon; not sure of official name...........
Outro: Mario Maker SSB4 remix

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@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the bad audio quality, I know it sucks!!!! ALSO the title is asking why the *writers* hated her, *not* why the other 3 Outers hated her. We know that already guys..
@exomake_mehorololo
@exomake_mehorololo 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting post. Hotaru was always my favourite! Always was really disappointed she wasn't featured much overall ... I want merchandise 🤔
@thebutterflywizardess8042
@thebutterflywizardess8042 4 жыл бұрын
I'm new to Sailor Moon. Why don't the other outer scouts like her?
@TriaMaxwell
@TriaMaxwell 4 жыл бұрын
@@exomake_mehorololo She is best senshi
@thebutterflywizardess8042
@thebutterflywizardess8042 4 жыл бұрын
@@rhea4559 Now preventing her from being born is harsh. She deserves a chance to exist, sheesh.
@makk3232
@makk3232 3 жыл бұрын
Bro you're 100% on point. The original anime writers were trash the original is not enjoyable anymore to me. Manga did it way better
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 4 жыл бұрын
They hate her because she is prettier than all of them hahaha
@VixenVulpix266
@VixenVulpix266 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it, the evil villainess took over her body. Not about being prettier than the others.
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 4 жыл бұрын
@@VixenVulpix266 It was a joke hence the hahas, but to me at least she is prettier than the rest
@Mikron20
@Mikron20 4 жыл бұрын
Gods, that'd make sense tho...
@matecabello6390
@matecabello6390 4 жыл бұрын
thats rigth
@sailorsaturn4423
@sailorsaturn4423 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks....
@chad8519
@chad8519 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, they did Hotaru dirty in the 90s anime.
@emo_princess8993
@emo_princess8993 4 жыл бұрын
agreed
@Klee15
@Klee15 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people are so forgiving towards "Sailor Stars". It was easily the the most shamelessly cheap season for so many reasons, the lack of Sailor Saturn included.
@ozurking4748
@ozurking4748 4 жыл бұрын
Im dirty.
@xgray2012
@xgray2012 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@xgray2012
@xgray2012 4 жыл бұрын
@@Klee15 At least the manga and hopefully the Crystal version of Sailor Moon is doing Sailor Saturn's character, justice.
@toothless9081
@toothless9081 4 жыл бұрын
They probably thought the character was too dark for a kids show. Typical writer's error. Kids can and wanna handle a lot and Saturn, although appearing dark, was *good* after all. That would've been a great lesson.
@giftedsoldier73
@giftedsoldier73 4 жыл бұрын
The last two episodes of sailor moon are restricted smh I thought the show was for kids
@edoardoguzzi3553
@edoardoguzzi3553 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but they put 2 lesbians in a kids show and they can't give a more screentime on saturn?
@fatherdog346
@fatherdog346 3 жыл бұрын
@@edoardoguzzi3553 don't you mean, "cousins"?
@pilotamurorei
@pilotamurorei 3 жыл бұрын
@@edoardoguzzi3553 not lesbians, technically, Haruka shares both male and female features to make the perfect sailor. *Read the comics*
@adriannahayes3960
@adriannahayes3960 3 жыл бұрын
@@pilotamurorei Manga*
@joeywall4657
@joeywall4657 4 жыл бұрын
"The less we see her, the more we WANT to see her." I strongly agree.
@Brisketwithcheese
@Brisketwithcheese 4 жыл бұрын
She is the prettiest of them all ngl
@sophie.9092
@sophie.9092 4 жыл бұрын
Pluto is prettiest, sorry
@mochipumpkin1120
@mochipumpkin1120 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophie.9092 All Of them are pretty .-.
@majelalover8837
@majelalover8837 3 жыл бұрын
prettiest of them is obv neptune
@loveinthetimeofsocialism
@loveinthetimeofsocialism 3 жыл бұрын
@@sophie.9092 all of them are pretty, but like i’m gonna have to give this one to sailor saturn, i’m fr simping
@zinzolin14
@zinzolin14 3 жыл бұрын
Neptune is the most gorgeous 🔱💙😉
@kstarnovagal6672
@kstarnovagal6672 4 жыл бұрын
They could have made so many memorable fillers episodes with the Outers and Hotaru as a family, and connect it to the story. Instead it was 30 episodes of OMG THE STARLIGHTS ARE SO HAWWWT
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr. It made the starlights a lot less likeable
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 жыл бұрын
I can't stand the Starlights. They were like the Outers but without actually backing up their attitudes. Haruka and Michiru could be aloof and haughty to the Inners but we see the reasons for it and they check out and make perfect sense, they're also cool and elegant and have a humorous side (especially Haruka).
@itamochivargas6233
@itamochivargas6233 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceProject99 I actually really liked the starlights.
@itamochivargas6233
@itamochivargas6233 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nightman221k I actually really liked the starlights, mostly seiya...ok I lied just seiya. But damn do I love her!
@kstarnovagal6672
@kstarnovagal6672 4 жыл бұрын
+Nightman221k That’s what I loved about the Outers in S, they weren’t on Sailor Moon’s side but they had reasons why, they challenged the entire narrative of blindly following Sailor Moon because she’s past royalty and presented the question on saving 1 versus 1,000,000. I know people hate them for that, but that’s what made them stick out to me when I was a kid watching S to this day. They make you think about Sailor Moon’s philosophy and various tropes. The Starlights were cringey because they were jerks just for the sake of being jerks yet everyone including the Inners worshiped the ground they walked on, even when Usagi was clearly uncomfortable. I was shocked how different they were in the manga.
@JenniferMejia-ir3fp
@JenniferMejia-ir3fp 5 жыл бұрын
Actual,my favorite is Saturn. I love her relationship with Chibi Moon and the Outer. Honestly, I can kind of relate to her. Both of us are young and are seen as outsiders and have difficulties in social situations. Sailor Saturn and I both think that we aren't really like by classmates. She has gave me a lot of strength and confidence in life.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
nice, I also related to her when I was younger
@honeynation
@honeynation 5 жыл бұрын
Same here. She's my fave Outer Senshi. 💜🖤💜
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 4 жыл бұрын
It's funny I love sailor saturn but I absolutely hate Chibi moon she is annoying
@sailorsaturn4423
@sailorsaturn4423 4 жыл бұрын
Oh...wow. Thank you!
@luciathefemininewoman
@luciathefemininewoman 4 жыл бұрын
MUSTT PROTECT HOTARU/SAILOR SATURN SHE ATACCS SHE PROTECSS YET SHE'S WELL BEHAVED THAN THE MAIN CHARACTERS smh and actually I'm not gonna lie I don't think Hotaru is the only one. I think the supporting characters were least of the manga artist/authors worries, especially for the anime. 🥺
@aibouftw7697
@aibouftw7697 5 жыл бұрын
The thing I’ll never forgive them for is for cutting her out of the movies. Especially in the Sailor Moon S movie (Hearts in Ice). I mean, Hotaru *did* appear in the manga version of the same story! And she kicked ass!! There was *no* excuse! Them taking her out of the Sailor Moon SuperS movie (Black Dream Hole) was just insult to injury after that! I just wanted to see her animated with a bigger budget... T_T Good video and great sentiment; I’m glad others share my thoughts! Lol
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
So glad you liked the video. I totally forgot to mention the movies. Dream Hole definitely was an insult, since Pluto being there was nonsensical (due to her "death" in S), so by all means Saturn could've been in. As for Hearts on Ice, I checked but she was not in the manga version at all. she still should've been in the movie tho let's be real
@IDK_Kat
@IDK_Kat 4 жыл бұрын
(Spoiler Warning) well that was because she was currently a baby
@Nightman221k
@Nightman221k 4 жыл бұрын
I'd have like it if she were in the movies but it couldn't make sense because she was in her baby form at the time the SuperS movie would have taken place. And she wasn't a sailor guardian in S until the very climax of the season. (I think Pluto being alive isn't a plothole if you play around with the timing of the S movie since Setsuna only "dies" at the tail end of the season) The movies are loosely canonical but there's enough wiggle room to make them fit if you try; but if Hotaru were included it would be even harder to fit into the events of the series.
@kstarnovagal6672
@kstarnovagal6672 4 жыл бұрын
@Everyone saying she was a baby as an excuse (spoiler warning) Pluto was supposed to be DEAD after using time stop to save Uranus/Neptune but there she is in the SuperS movie without a scratch or explanation! They’re just like “Oh hi Pluto!” Chibiusa doesn’t even react to her coming back to life and she had a confrontation with her spirit! The video game Sailor Moon S: Another Story already patched up the baby issue by accelerating her age because there was a huge threat. So did Stars. It’s not hard. Also I feel like the Stars premier was like an unofficial movie
@Julayla
@Julayla 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, Hotaru didn't appear in the Kaguya manga story. I double checked my copies.
@ZakiAoi
@ZakiAoi 5 жыл бұрын
I love Sailorsaturn. She was amazing. I can't wait for the Crystal version of Stars
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! And eh, more excited for the Dream arc. In the Stars manga she is relatively useless lol and also gets defeated instantaneously
@AuthorLeepoy
@AuthorLeepoy 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceProject99 Sailormoon Crystal is no more. They change the Title to Sailormoon Eternal.
@sailorsaturn4423
@sailorsaturn4423 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@21minute
@21minute 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceProject99 I mean the Stars arc is basically the story only about Eternal Sailor Moon being alone. That's why basically everyone was erased.
@Keng04T
@Keng04T 4 жыл бұрын
Science Project 99 really? 😟
@honeynation
@honeynation 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your video! Sailor Saturn is terribly underrated. I wish she had gotten more screen time and a transformation scene in the 90s anime. I will never underetand why she never got the same treatment as the other senshi.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! The amount of focus the Starlights got over her is still jarring to me. new starlights merchandise is rarely made compared to her, which says a lot lol
@jonn_mace_80_95_
@jonn_mace_80_95_ 4 жыл бұрын
It's because Sailor Saturn is over powered.
@yukir.9156
@yukir.9156 4 жыл бұрын
Especialy for the two last saisons!
@yukir.9156
@yukir.9156 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonn_mace_80_95_ her ultime power is! She is not, for the reste.
@mibukdesjarlais534
@mibukdesjarlais534 5 жыл бұрын
If Sailor Saturn doesn't get any screen time in this new movie I will personally destroy the entire Galaxy and everything known to existence with her Silence Glaive. 😡😠😡😠😡😠
@marianomartin1777
@marianomartin1777 4 жыл бұрын
She will get a lot of screen time in the second part of the film. She plays a key role in the plot, but i don't wanna spoil any details
@shikiwakana
@shikiwakana 4 жыл бұрын
she'll appear in the second movie
@hiilikepizza677
@hiilikepizza677 4 жыл бұрын
Wait which movie?
@kindawannakms
@kindawannakms 4 жыл бұрын
Hey can you give me a explanation what will happen now? Will there be now two movies instead of two season? Why even a movie?
@JuneieBack
@JuneieBack 4 жыл бұрын
There will be 2 movies taking the place for season 4 because the manga arc is so short.
@taiinsolara5627
@taiinsolara5627 3 жыл бұрын
In the manga, there was a positive story about Sailor Saturn. When she was reborn after suffering a short and unhappy life, the outer scouts gave her a joyous second childhood. After Saturn later regained her original form, she thanked them warmly for what they had done. I thought that this was better than any battle scene.
@SmithyPL
@SmithyPL 6 ай бұрын
Now we can see it in Eternal movie
@curedreamfandubz4116
@curedreamfandubz4116 5 жыл бұрын
The only thing sailor Moon crystal got right was that she got a little screen time
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
agreed. it's a shame that she got more screen time in this less superior anime version
@hyang3044
@hyang3044 4 жыл бұрын
I hope she shows up in season 4 of sailor moon crystal. She's my favorite sailor
@bronzesun879
@bronzesun879 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all really get off to loving 90’s stuff and hating anything new
@ek2211
@ek2211 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceProject99 smc was good smh
@PRINCESSTISSUES
@PRINCESSTISSUES 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed SMC better than the 90’s version one tbh.
@peculiarqueen3056
@peculiarqueen3056 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Sailor Saturn and Sailor Pluto deserved more respect ✋😔
@whatjustinawhat
@whatjustinawhat 3 жыл бұрын
Yes😫 they’re my favorite and it hurts lol
@designerrskyline
@designerrskyline 4 жыл бұрын
“Why are you gonna kill her like that? It’s very disrespectful.” 😂 I lol’d. But you’re so right!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
😆😆
@gaaraluva3579
@gaaraluva3579 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always resonated with sailor Saturn so their rejection of her made me feel like rejected myself
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly same
@MissJoy16
@MissJoy16 3 жыл бұрын
Are you also DID or OSDD? Or at least have Complex PTSD? We're DID and she was so much like us. We also became a trauma therapist and just wanted to heal the world. IDK I'm just hoping to find someone else like me out there in the world lol
@kyungsik
@kyungsik 3 жыл бұрын
@@MissJoy16 yup DID here Saturn has been fav since childhood. Party on 🎊 🪐
@d.c.3346
@d.c.3346 2 жыл бұрын
@@MissJoy16 ...how did you correlate that wtf ISJDKSK i have complex ptsd wthhh
@goldcherries
@goldcherries 3 жыл бұрын
I was always so confused by Saturn. They made her into this huge deal of a character who could potentially destroy the universe, but she just becomes a baby and gets taken from her dad? Then she can't immediately kill the bad guy though she technically could? She seemed so important but never proved it.
@BREkatt
@BREkatt Жыл бұрын
In the manga Hotaru’s dad dies, I think in the 90s they thought that would be too dark for kids to see a dad die so they let him live in the 90s anime. It makes more sense for the outlets to watch Hotaru if the dad dies.
@-.Germanicus.-
@-.Germanicus.- 9 ай бұрын
She can't destroy universes, only planets. Galaxia fears her but chiba usa convinces her not to die for some reason. I think it would be interesting to see her fight Galaxia. I think they didn't want her to appear more powerful than Usagi 😂
@chickofmusic001
@chickofmusic001 8 ай бұрын
It’s such a wasted potential because I loved the idea of Hotaru/sailor Saturn being pretty powerful. But ofc she can’t overshadow the main character…
@EvanTomiko
@EvanTomiko 4 жыл бұрын
Sailor Saturn is one of the most powerful guardians. In the manga she really kicked ass. But in the anime she was a mystery saved for last resort. She was useless. Crystal's version was way more better. They paid justice to Saturn.
@cutecats532
@cutecats532 2 ай бұрын
This might make me watch crystal when i've been writing it off because I have nostalgia for the original.
@absayaya
@absayaya 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! They she was never in any thumbnails, she can very rarely be found in merchandise. I wish Sailor Moon put more emphasis on my favorite Sailor Scout.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@hayamihinata4135
@hayamihinata4135 4 жыл бұрын
I have multiple Sailor Moon shirts and I am so happy that I managed to find one with Saturn on it. The minute I saw it I bought it because I figured I would never see one again.
@supasetleewairoj2440
@supasetleewairoj2440 4 жыл бұрын
Uranus: "We are the ***THREE*** outer senshis" THREE.THREE.THREE.THREE.THREE.THree.Three.three...three...... Whoah....ouch!
@alexandertan8592
@alexandertan8592 4 жыл бұрын
she failed maths
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 4 жыл бұрын
Big Brother says 2+2 = 3 Big Brother demands that 2+2 = 3
@fefefan17
@fefefan17 4 жыл бұрын
“I just thought it was very rude” 😂😂😂 that’s a mood and a half !
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo
@sailorlily8030
@sailorlily8030 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly!!! I read the manga after watching the 90s anime and Hotaru/Saturn went from a character I casually liked just like every other character to my favourite magical girl of all time. Another thing that bugged me was Tomoe's story being changed, mainly in relation to how it affected Hotaru. In the manga, it does feel satisfying that she went from a lonely, cyborg girl with an awful father to a powerful soldier who had many close friends and 3 powerful outer moms.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
the manga definitely did her more justice. Except for the stars manga, I'd have to say; she didn't get a lot of screen time in that arc lol.
@caoduynguyenvuong3016
@caoduynguyenvuong3016 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I don't like about the 90s anime is other than completely doing Saturn and Pluto a disservice by severely undermining their roles and appearances, the Inner and Outer senshis did not work in union throughout the series like the manga, where after the Infinity arc, worked together as one, fully assembled team of Solar System Sailor Senshi.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Since the end of Infinity in the manga, they always work as a team yet in the anime they were still distant from the Outers in stars completely.
@caoduynguyenvuong3016
@caoduynguyenvuong3016 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, the 90s anime makers probably did that in order to emphasize a sense of 'maturity' in which the Outer senshis have over the Inner, which is what Naoko Takeuchi had portrayed for the most part of the manga's Infinity arc. But the 90s anime just went too far. I understand that Uranus and Neptune had a tendency to work in solidarity, but I can't see the necessity in making them so ruthless, cold-hearted and bitter towards Sailor Moon and the Inner senshis like how they are portrayed in the Infinity arc and the last episodes of the Stars arc. This certainly isn't how Takeuchi want them to be. The Inner and Outer did work together perfectly during the first cour of Stars act against Nehellenia though. And I really wanted to be more episodes like those ones.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 4 жыл бұрын
Well in crystal they are portrayed in a more uncomfortable light,kissing Usagi without her consent and that is just wrong.
@HellaFuckingKawaii
@HellaFuckingKawaii 4 жыл бұрын
It's because the 90's anime slowly made it apparent that they stopped giving a shit about any character that isn't Usagi or pink haired Usagi.
@emo_princess8993
@emo_princess8993 4 жыл бұрын
true
@kstarnovagal6672
@kstarnovagal6672 4 жыл бұрын
And they stopped portraying the girls as unique or powerful. I love the 90s anime up to S. It’s so obvious they gave up after.
@NinjaFlibble
@NinjaFlibble 4 жыл бұрын
considering how woefully underpowered the Inners are (with the exception of Sailor Moon) for basically two seasons, I have to agree. Sailor Moon gets a power up every season and the others get, what, 3? If you count getting their base form in season 1, and I think it was season 2 and 4 were their next powerups. While I vastly prefer the 90s anime over Crystal because of the added character development*, I will say that at least Crystal should have everyone stay at about the same power level (I've heard that everyone gets an eternal form in Stars in the manga), so at least no one is left to feel like set dressing on a side note, I despise how obnoxious chibi-Usa is...that and her electra-complex just make me severely dislike the character. I didn't even feel she was necessary past season 2
@emo_princess8993
@emo_princess8993 4 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaFlibble ugh I hated chibiusa so much
@otremee7933
@otremee7933 4 жыл бұрын
tbf they still gave the other girls more screen time than the original manga. The original manga was even worse, the other girls had almost no character at all.
@nintendolife25
@nintendolife25 5 жыл бұрын
Green Magical Girls: We are the most shafted characters in the magical girl community. Sailor Saturn (90s): Hold my Silence Glaive. Really though, Saturn is my second favorite among the sailors, my first being Venus. It’s really unfortunate that the 90s version really didn’t do her justice in why she was hyped as one of the most OP and feared sailor scouts.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
LOL love your comment. it is super unfortunate since in every other way, the 90s is superior to Crystal. This is my real only problem with the 90s.
@pertaru1876
@pertaru1876 4 жыл бұрын
Saturn is my fav not just in sailor moon but in all of anime. And I think your idea of having saturn brainwashed by Galaxia and having that epic final battle would have been batter than the way they kill her off.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely better. And you're right she is an awesome character
@PHASES_OFFICIAL
@PHASES_OFFICIAL 3 жыл бұрын
They didnt hate sailor saturn. They knew her power was dangerous and they needed to stay serious about the situation.
@priscillajimenez27
@priscillajimenez27 2 ай бұрын
True
@geekablyu6892
@geekablyu6892 4 жыл бұрын
“You guys are really disrespectful... I will like, try to steal your star seeds now because you tried to be rude to me and steal mine.” -Sailor Saturn 😂
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@cbb276
@cbb276 4 жыл бұрын
I've always felt the same about how Saturn was treated in the 90s. When I was watching it as a kid on my eBay VHS tapes lol she SCARED me in S3. I was terrified of her and her power- especially as it was my first time being introduced to a story that suggested that the most powerful wasn't necessarily the lead character (although the whole Messiah debacle is always a crazy debate). But once she turned back into a baby at the end of S3, I was like "........ wait, what? So we're not gonna see her again now?!" And then I have to agree with everything else you said, especially with the opportunity for Saturn to use power after she was reintroduced to the group. I do have to say something about the Galaxia moment though. I recently watched those few episodes and realized that Saturn and Pluto surrendering to the attack was them accepting their plan they must have made before hand, when they were all swearing "whatever it takes". They must have planned with all the outers to have it go down like that, I think.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I watched sailor moon S on VHS, and all the scenes of Hotaru in her throne were so creepy and fascinating to me. As for the Galaxia moment, a few others are telling me pluto and saturn went along with their plan, but honestly the scene was way too vague and rushed. to me it looked as if only uranus and neptune planned it. so I wish the writers elaborated more on how saturn and pluto felt
@vibrantgleam
@vibrantgleam 3 жыл бұрын
I swear the only time they treated Saturn well was in Sailor Moon Super
@JadenMoon1475
@JadenMoon1475 4 жыл бұрын
Them writing her as useless, or completely out of the story, hurts *Rini's* character too!!! I mean; Despite everything - Everyone getting hurt, Mistress 9 possessing her, the Outers *(Uranus, Neptune & Pluto)* trying to kill her to prevent Mistress 9's revival - Rini *STILL* hoped for her, *STILL* believed Hotaru was good. Rini and the Inner Scouts were her only friends for... Goodness knows how long a time of her life!!!
@bulgeandshoes
@bulgeandshoes 4 жыл бұрын
I’M SCREAMING EVERY TIME YOU SAY “RUDE” AND “DISRESPECTFUL”! 😂😂😂
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@totallyalienz9290
@totallyalienz9290 4 жыл бұрын
Is your voice okay? (This is a joke)
@jenniferli770
@jenniferli770 4 жыл бұрын
“Who is babysitting her here?” LOLOL
@AlyxGalaxy
@AlyxGalaxy 4 жыл бұрын
WHY MUST SHE BE MY FAVORITE????? It hurts that she isn’t shown more love! I love Saturn so much!!!!!!!! She was my first anime crush back in elementary school! And I still have a huge soft spot for her!!!!!
@0805gg
@0805gg 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except for the end about Uranus/Neptune “betraying” Pluto/Saturn. It was explained why they did that (so they can catch Galaxia off guard) and even in S, Uranus/Neptune have made it clear that their loyalty and duty are to their princess if not each other. I also think Saturn being brainwashed by Galaxia would have been a disservice to Hotaru considering her whole dilemma in S was that she was possessed by 2 different beings in her. It’s too much of a plot that should be reserved in fan fiction
@jessicah9522
@jessicah9522 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you have a emotional connection to these characters
@lovelycheriee5296
@lovelycheriee5296 3 жыл бұрын
I love Saturn, agreed she definitely needed more screen time, especially more so than Darien and ESPECIALLY Rini 🙄
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 3 жыл бұрын
So true!
@vibrantgleam
@vibrantgleam 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceProject99 Chibi Moon, Sailor Moon, and Mamoru had WAAAAY TOO MUCH screentime.
@TheLostAge
@TheLostAge 4 жыл бұрын
Dude even as a kid I knew it was bullshit she didn't get enough screen time. As soon as I knew about her existence I was sooo curious to see her transform and use her attacks. When she finally transformed for like 5 seconds and dissappeared from the episode I was so disappointed! She was so cool and they robbed us from seeing more of her. I think even as a kid I knew she was the coolest one. I completely agree with you here, you brought back the childhood trauma lol
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah the writers hated her for some reason
@RoseAurora91
@RoseAurora91 4 жыл бұрын
Sailor Saturn is so underrated. I remember when I was 9-10 years old, I intrigued by Hotaru's backstory (what happened before and as Mistress 9 & Saturn) in season 3 (S) of 90s anime vers. I feel her identities are so mysterious. I even drew her picture in my diary book with full colors. She's so cool with her Silent Glaive. Couldn't agree more with your point of view, they really treated Saturn badly in this anime ver. Probably because she is a warrior of ruin & reborn, so they think her character is not really necessary to make a transformation sequence, more screen time & special episode. I also don't really understand why Uranus & Neptune object to revive Saturn. But it must be because she is warrior of ruin after all. Lol
@IntoBlackHouse
@IntoBlackHouse 3 жыл бұрын
I actually appreciate Sailor Saturn’s scarcity in Sailor Moon S. It does emphasize the importance of her role and makes you want more. You get the feeling that she is very special and unlike any of the other scouts.
@biancasomething9313
@biancasomething9313 4 жыл бұрын
They hate her cuz they ain't her.
@howardchu6302
@howardchu6302 4 жыл бұрын
Well said and I agree. Wish Sailor Saturn had more of a presence in the series for sure. Crystal is doing her story more justice but I have issues with the animation style. LOL!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
thank you, and yeah I really don't like any of the Crystal art styles so the justice doesn't feel complete
@howardchu6302
@howardchu6302 4 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceProject99, they're really trying to replicate the original art style of the manga, which I find works great in print but just doesn't translate well to screen animation. Was a bit of a letdown for me when I heard that one of my fave anime was getting a reboot. Was hoping for something on the calibre of Fullmetal Alchemist. Brotherhood's animation was stunning and surpassed the original. Shame Sailor Moon didn't get that treatment.
@kstarnovagal6672
@kstarnovagal6672 4 жыл бұрын
Literally the only thing I liked in Crystal s3 was Hotaru and Chibiusa’s story + Saturn. Everything else was boring and forgettable, which the manga it was more memorable because of the art style and narrative
@xbox5827
@xbox5827 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is. Saturn is powerful so she can destroy the earth ;-;
@ibtiago18
@ibtiago18 4 жыл бұрын
TBH, I fell that all the outer senshi suffered from that same problem in the 90's anime. Pluto had her greatest moment cut from season 2 and moved to season 3. This also prevented Setsuna to be developed as a character separated from her sailor identity. Michiru / Neptune had almost no personality other then be good at everything. She could have been shown not being good at some subjects and benefiting from Amy's help is studies, despite being more advanced is school. And her waking up as a senshi should have been shown. Haruka was the better developed out of the 4 (discounting Otaru in season 3, before she woke up as Saturn). Still they could have done a better job later in season 3 and in seasons 4 and 5. I hope that, if ever there is a 3rd anime, it is a full anime with each issue being a season. And that they took the time to develop all 4 outer senshi in both their civilian and guardian forms.
@SuperDubios
@SuperDubios 4 жыл бұрын
They did injustice to both Sailor Saturn and Pluto! My favourite Sailor Soldiers . Both are regularly used as suicide Bombs .
@Simon_Electric
@Simon_Electric 3 жыл бұрын
I love it! "you really disrespectful" I would love to see you do an abridged version of the last episode, Saturn should speak her mind about how she got jipped this entire season but all of a sudden they want her to show up for the last few minutes of the last episode. That would be so funny to see Saturn go in on the rest of the cast!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed lol!
@avidanime158
@avidanime158 4 жыл бұрын
She's my favorite senshi 😭
@davidemascia3432
@davidemascia3432 4 жыл бұрын
I think she would have been a bit more accepted if her attacks weren’t only “shield” and “destroy everything”
@Hagahaghag
@Hagahaghag 5 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the Crystal Movie to finally see Saturn fighting Amazonnes!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@bastionsea2829
@bastionsea2829 4 жыл бұрын
Uranus and Neptune didn't just try to steal Pluto's Star Seed, they wanted to try for all of them, inner and outer It was part of their plot to defeat Chaos
@jenniferli770
@jenniferli770 4 жыл бұрын
LOLOL when u called out Sailor Uranus and was like “yo why you gotta steal Saturns thunder u just glowed up like last episode!” Sailor Uranus is my favorite but that really made me laugh!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao yeah poor saturn.
@donalvarez4006
@donalvarez4006 3 жыл бұрын
Also why does Uranus' attack look like the planet Saturn with the rings?
@amanogirl1
@amanogirl1 4 жыл бұрын
For Christmas I’m getting a Sailor Saturn figure. My favourite Sailor Scout ever.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome 💜
@Unihuahua
@Unihuahua 4 жыл бұрын
I love the salt in this video lol But seriously, even though Saturn wasn't my fave I loved how cool she looked/how mysterious she was and always wanted to see more of her. I was really sad as a kid when they left her out of the last movie. I read the Mangas as I watched the anime and always had this look on my face 😒
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, and yeah if Pluto got to be in the movie then Saturn should've too!
@kmvmccall213
@kmvmccall213 3 жыл бұрын
I never comment on KZbin but SERIOUSLY FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS HOW I FEEL!!!!!! Team Sailor Saturn
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yes! They did her so dirty. Team Saturn all the way
@LaCheleWallace
@LaCheleWallace 4 жыл бұрын
I loved _Sailor Moon S._ Best season, period. From beginning to end, it was great. I loved the idea of Sailor Saturn being the evil/dark soldier. However, I thought they could've done a little more w/ her in the final season. She was a little too elusive. She definitely needed an official transformation and she needed a less intense special power. A missed opportunity was _Sailor Moon Super S._ What a waste of a season. All that Double Moon crap was so boring.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely too elusive and in need of a less intense power. They brought her back only for minimal screen time
@kristinadriver2570
@kristinadriver2570 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for calling out the lack of love she was given. She is my favorite with the coolest back story, lore, and powers. I also related alot to her, lonely, weak, but always wanting to help.
@TheDeeight
@TheDeeight 4 жыл бұрын
-This is why I love Sailor Saturn the most, because she’s the most underrated fighter ever- yet the most powerful.. 👁‍🗨👁‍🗨
@maddies.526
@maddies.526 4 жыл бұрын
2:09 Oh wow! For years I had no idea where this transformation was from, but thanks to you I finally know the answer!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@Lynn-ee9hq
@Lynn-ee9hq 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never realized Saturn was cut from so many events! She's my #1 favorite Scout, and has been since the first time I learned about her during the heart snatchers saga. u.u She's wise, kind, and dark...not a combination that's easy to come by, even now. The idea of her starting off as a true villain, not just as minor antagonists like the other Outers, gave her a standard all her own. Can you imagine how cool it would have been for Saturn to intervene (or even join in) when Mini Moon turned evil later on? A best friendship that lasted even through darkness and betrayals...she'd have been the only one who could have understood Chibi Usa's dark heart. **sighs** ah, well. I do wish Pluto and Saturn would have been switched around, though. Trisha makes way more sense as Saturn, as she and her powers are all about rules and structure, which is what the planet symbolizes. Pluto, being Scorpio's ruler, is the planet of death and destruction. Hotaru's scythe, her dark colors, her mysterious and intense nature all play into that way more than a Capricorn.
@ZakiAoi
@ZakiAoi 5 жыл бұрын
Chibi Usa sold a s h i t l o a d of toys during S, that's why super had the outers cut and her story delvoped more.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
oh that's an interesting tidbit. Still was a bad choice for them to shoehorn the Starlights over the outers
@TheCorrellRoyHD
@TheCorrellRoyHD 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad in sailor moon eternal movie trailers, appears sailor saturn gets more in depth and use than the 90s. I love her big open presence in the Season 3 of Crystal of not just explaining what she could do but SHOWED what she can do.
@chameleonknight4394
@chameleonknight4394 4 жыл бұрын
Sailor Saturn is one of the best Senshi. She deserves so much more love and attention. And this is coming from a Neptune fan. XD
@jimmy-nq4zv
@jimmy-nq4zv 3 жыл бұрын
9:41 that scene would’ve been better than sailor moon just doing nothing but crying and letting everyone die and fight for her
@carmillarei
@carmillarei 4 жыл бұрын
hotaru is literally one of the most powerful like USE HER POWERS DAMMIT
@MyFairDinkum
@MyFairDinkum 4 жыл бұрын
Final show down idea... that is such a perfect thought! My girl Saturn always deserved so much more...
@NinjaFlibble
@NinjaFlibble 4 жыл бұрын
even with only the one episode I saw when I was a kid, Saturn was one of my favorites. I also like Venus (cause I thought she was pretty when I was a kid, I watched this series when I was 10 or 11) and Star Fighter (cause I love how the relationship between him and Usagi develops more naturally than the one between Usagi and Mamoru (yes, I know Seiya is never actually a male in the manga. I'm talking strictly the 90s anime here) I actually thought this video was why Uranus and Neptune seemed to hate Saturn during season 3 when I first clicked on it XD
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, I do get some comments of people thinking that's what the video is about, with them explaining that the senshi did not hate saturn, and I'm like 😅😑
@peterjuliob.2136
@peterjuliob.2136 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Your end scene idea is amazing !!! We could only dream !
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@wendywhalims1257
@wendywhalims1257 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh her "attacks" in the anime. Are more so defensive. She really only has silent wall which blocks hella damage. Which is cool and all but could have been made more of a focused.
@stevenhiggins3055
@stevenhiggins3055 4 жыл бұрын
She has Death Reborn Revolution.
@wendywhalims1257
@wendywhalims1257 4 жыл бұрын
I'm speaking more so in the anime terms. I know she has attacks in manga
@stevenhiggins3055
@stevenhiggins3055 4 жыл бұрын
@@wendywhalims1257 In the 90's anime, since that's what I assume your talking about given that Crystal also goes by the manga more, she also has Silence Glaive Surprise. The others just won't let her use it because it's a cosmic nuke
@MamoruMe
@MamoruMe 4 жыл бұрын
The first Amv I ever made was a sailor Saturn one... i basically had to use all available footage of her to get it done lol
@PoutineProductions
@PoutineProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I was sad that my favorite planet was not represented enough in general. Saturn's too cool.
@sakurakinomoto4879
@sakurakinomoto4879 4 жыл бұрын
I love Hotaru/Sailor Saturn. She’s my favourite. Why did they didn’t put her in the Sailor Moon SuperS The movie? I’m really disappointed that’s she’s not even in that movie.
@betpokemon
@betpokemon 3 жыл бұрын
I guess you aren't thinking about this much. The anime and the Manga are completely different story plot wise. Sailor Saturn is supposed to be "The Silence" ; a guardian only awoken to destroy the world and rebuild it. They treat her that way throughout the anime and also she's always stays a young age after reawakening, there are just some perspective shots that make her seem taller. They treat her as a weapon of destruction because that's what she has been portrayed as. Furthermore, Neptune and Uranus took her star seed as part of their plan to take down Galaxia and Saturn would most likely understand this. Also why do you keep referring to her as "Super" Sailor Saturn? Nothing in the anime ever said this power up would be considered a "Super" form. There are a lot of differences between the anime and the Manga and I don't believe they were doing anything to purposely kick Saturn out. Also The outer guardians had very little to do with the dream arc and everything relating to them that had to do with the dream arc was shown in the beginning of Sailor Stars. I'm sorry, but this argument is full of holes. The anime just has an altered story plot from the manga so you can't compare them.
@ACoroa
@ACoroa 4 жыл бұрын
Sailor Saturn and Galaxia versus Sailor Moon and the Sailor Stars is an awesome idea!!! That woulda been fire!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
haha glad you agree!
@amandasmith3504
@amandasmith3504 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE THAT IDEA FOR AN ENDING! You're brilliant. 😍
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it 😆
@dischordsedi205
@dischordsedi205 Жыл бұрын
I love how u know I keep calling the sailors as the American names. I love this video!!! And ur so good with it!!!
@MatsuriLittleBear
@MatsuriLittleBear 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, they did Saturn wrong in the OG anime
@lingeringquestions519
@lingeringquestions519 3 жыл бұрын
I want a third anime! I want the generals/guardians and the generals to be alive somehow (although they might just be in the rocks), Haruka and Michiru in season one and two somehow, filler, cel animation with a manga style, jazz music, new theme songs and ending themes, and every plot hole fixed, and a simuldub!
@kelsey1406
@kelsey1406 4 жыл бұрын
In general they did a lot of disservice to the outer scouts.
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
that's a fact
@kelsey1406
@kelsey1406 4 жыл бұрын
Science Project 99 It’s a shame too, they were my favorites, particularly Sailor Uranus.
@raynebaker9149
@raynebaker9149 3 жыл бұрын
You bring up some great points. I always thought it was because Saturn was supposed to be quite young and while almost all the scouts are teens, maybe they thought it wasn't appropriate? Still though, I consider Saturn to be one of the most badass scouts.
@jesusvieira7180
@jesusvieira7180 4 жыл бұрын
this is the ammount of times he says "disrespectful" | | v
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
🙈🙈🙈
@artemisamory
@artemisamory 4 жыл бұрын
Saturn has always been my favourite!! I remember being a little kid on the edge of my seat throughout Sailor Moon S and I dressed like Hotaru at school. I liked the rest of Sailor Moon but nothing stood up to Sailor Moon S to me and it's the only season I've really rewatched.
@persephone2706
@persephone2706 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love the manga. I read it over every few months lol.
@vilvile
@vilvile 4 жыл бұрын
Good opinions. One of the things I love the most about the 90s anime for Saturn is her somewhat nuanced color scheme. The accent ribbons are so “dark burgundy” that they show almost black most of the times, which in my modest opinion it works SO much better. I agree with you in regard to her short screentime. Unfortunately the same could be said by 3 out of the 5 Witches 5 that suffered that some destiny.
@minakohiashi8882
@minakohiashi8882 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't she kind of die and got reborn as a baby?
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 5 жыл бұрын
yes at the end of season 3.
@mochipumpkin1120
@mochipumpkin1120 3 жыл бұрын
0:02 Me: Forgotten Green characters...
@lucassantiago697
@lucassantiago697 3 жыл бұрын
The first 6 episodes of Sailor Stars are probably my favorite ''mini-arc'' of the entire show
@mesial_magsx3494
@mesial_magsx3494 4 жыл бұрын
You just explained exactly how I felt about how Saturn was portrayed!!! I’m also very excited for the next seasons of crystal and to see how they include her! I was always so disappointed with the anime leaving her out. And I agree, that it would’ve been totally badass to see Eternal Sailor Moon go up against Galaxia and Saturn! Thanks for sharing!
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed ! And yes hopefully crystal's next seasons do her some justice
@peropero2208
@peropero2208 3 жыл бұрын
Bruuuuh Why it took me so long to realize Chibiusa-Chibi Usagi Rini-Mini Serena
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@mirunamuscalu7847
@mirunamuscalu7847 4 жыл бұрын
But good thing we have Sailor moon Crystal! From what I have seen the Crystal series is running more with the manga then the original anime (ex: Sailor Pluto death scene when she stops time) so there is a high chance that Saturn will get more screen time
@berryojen7711
@berryojen7711 4 жыл бұрын
Super cool ideas!! Love the video! Finally Hotaru gets the attention she deserves!👍😊
@ScienceProject99
@ScienceProject99 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@sakisaotome6753
@sakisaotome6753 4 жыл бұрын
also she wasn't a toddler when she came back. she was kid probably around the age chibiusa was when she first arrived, which is definately younger than she was when they first introduced her.
@LadyDragoncat
@LadyDragoncat 4 жыл бұрын
MORE SAILOR SATURN!!! MORE SAILOR SATURN!!! MORE SAILOR SATURN!!!
@Karuminu2
@Karuminu2 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't hate her, the writers just wanted to keep all the main focus on a blonde crybaby who cries her way through every climax in every season. Why is she hailed as a hero in this anime again? I mean, why is she considered a role model? She sucks at school and everything else and her only goal in life is to get married and be a princess. While the other sailor scouts have real long-term ambitions. Ami (Mercury) is studying to be a doctor, Rei (Mars) wants to write her own music and probably take charge of the shrine after her grandpa, Makoto (Jupiter) wants to be a chef, Minako (Venus) wants to go into entertainment and be a world famous diva. Michiru (Neptune) is a talented painter and violinist and Haruka (Uranus) is a freaking NASCAR racer! I love these characters so much more for their real life goals that girls can look up to! And they're so much more likable than that wand waving crybaby who eats, sleeps, flunks school tests, dreams only about being a pretty dainty princess and chases after cute boys! I don't care if Usagi's the main character, she's a very unlikable main character.
@eonmoss4089
@eonmoss4089 4 жыл бұрын
Karuminu2 her tears are the legendary silver crystal so..... 😢 💎
@emiliae1975
@emiliae1975 4 жыл бұрын
Karuminu2 She’s atleast better then other anime airhead girls.
@witchrosey
@witchrosey 4 жыл бұрын
Miss Airhead she’s the biggest airhead there is XD
@celty_6835
@celty_6835 4 жыл бұрын
Did you even pay attention to Usagi's growth throughout the series? Sure, she started off as a ditzy, dumb, airheaded crybaby who'd always try and run away from her battles, but this changed as the series progressed. The moment she got her memories back after her and the inner senshi's deaths, something in her changed. She even said it - "Goodbye, Old Usagi..." This proved that she'd grown up and realized her destiny as not just the princess, but a warrior. Underneath that still, however, she was still the Usagi with all of the traits and flaws that made up her character. She was a little whiny, a tad spacey, and still a bit of a klutz. But she'd grown. Denying that would mean denying everything that Sailor Moon is as its core - a coming of age story. A story about realizing your responsibilities and learning to take charge for yourself. She started off as this fourteen year old girl with the weight of the world on her shoulders, which is something people tend to forget. I wonder, if they were in her position, would they be able to accept the new life they'd been forced into and just... roll with it? Keep in mind, under her senshi exterior, Usagi was still a child, and being ordinary was something she'd longed for from the moment Luna gave her that brooch. She could eat and sleep and afford to be ditzy, because those were the little things that made up her ordinary life. Things that she'd come to appreciate since the battle with Queen Beryl. I would say that Usagi's growth was most prevalent during the scene where she saved Sailor Saturn. During that incredibly powerful scene, you could hear her anguish as she pounded against the ground, begging her brooch to work because she was that determined to save someone without anyone else having to suffer the consequences. She stayed true to her ideals. In the beginning of the series, Usagi would have burst into tears at the fact that things hadn't gone her way. But this was different. You could only hear and see Usagi's pure desperation to make things better. (And Usagi does have dreams, however unrealistic they may be. Like being a teacher, a nurse, a mother, an idol, and a plethora of other jobs that fall way out of her capability.)
@emiliae1975
@emiliae1975 4 жыл бұрын
chara ruby I agree! Most anime girls are just ditzy and cute. Usagi is not just a blonde crybaby, she’s grown up. Usagi is still a child.
@Shinnotatsu
@Shinnotatsu 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I've been a Sailor Moon fan since it came to the US. That idea of a fight between Moon and Saturn as you said. OMG. I would have loved that! It would be EPIC.
@ScarasRealLover
@ScarasRealLover 4 жыл бұрын
I love Saturn so much. She’s pretty much my favorite design, maybe even my favorite character. Sadly she just doesn’t get enough screen time for me to know if she really would be. It’s hard for me to pay attention to manga for a long time unless it’s all super interesting (if I haven’t seen it) so I never actually got around to finishing it.
@SYEJ92
@SYEJ92 3 жыл бұрын
Sailor Saturn is my fave and i'm glad she's way more important in the manga
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 4 жыл бұрын
After the revolution, we‘re gonna get a perfect adaptation, I am certain.
@TaborlinThePleb
@TaborlinThePleb 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad somebody else noticed this! I LOVE Sailor Saturn and it makes me so sad she doesn’t get any love from the writers. It also makes me sad when there is artwork of every scout except for her.
@iluvRENT07
@iluvRENT07 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! From jump Sailor Saturn has been my favorite Sailor Scout. And they just like abandon her, before they even introduce her it feels like. So, lame. But, yeah, I'm excited to see more of her in Crsytal!
@barbarabaker1457
@barbarabaker1457 4 жыл бұрын
It's weird, she's often a fan favorite, even non manga readers love her. Why snub her? Love the art but I always had an urge to do a mature live action version with an international cast. Definitely putting her out in front if I'm ever allowed to use the property.
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