Why didn't Clones use ION WEAPONS to fight the CIS?

[@EckhartsLadder]

Probably will stream some Empire at War tonight: kzbin.info Thumbnail art here, based on Battlefront II models made by Orthohex: www.artstation.com/artwork/y1R5Q

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

Remember the Zillo beast was awakened by the Super ion bomb!

[@Attaxalotl]

I was expecting you to want add kinmann doriana. Karrde, now that I think about it, Is pretty much Kinmann doriana, but he doesn't work for palpatine

[@icheckered]

I was thinking about the Clone Wars and I never understood when in the Malevolence arc in season 1 Grievous wants to destroy the medical station why does he have to use the ion-cannon to do so. The station is defenseless why couldn't he have just destroyed it with Turbolasers?

[@irongunner-ov4nl]

Hey can you do a flood vs xenomorph video i think itd be interesting. Me and a friend. Have debated for hours.. I think giveing fair starting gorunds both flood and xenomorphs land on a planet with 6 billion people on oppisite sides of the planet. In the end who would win?

[@ZeroArmour]

I have one question that's been nagging at me for a while now. A Venator carries 192 Eta-2 starfighters, the "Jedi Starfighter", yet we never see more than a few Jedi on a ship at a time. Are these fighters just sitting there unused?

[@cherudium]

I think most of these "Why didn't they do this" Can be broken down into 2 basic answers. Answer 1, the writers didn't think of it until fans pointed it out then retroactively made up a reason it wouldn't work. Answer 2, Palpatine.

[@44CoReY44]

3. blasters look pretty on screen

[@TheNobleFive]

@@44CoReY44 An ion shot from a blaster could be blue anyway.

[@cherudium]

@@TheNobleFive Exactly, in fact Ion shots are blue in the originals, go check Hoth's ion cannon smacking around Death Squadron.

[@fpsnmoregaming3485]

44CoReY44 3: the republic was already broke so they probably didn’t wanna get anymore in debt

[@Kyle7885]

cherudium agree with the second point. If the clone army were more effective then they might have won the war outright and failed in their true purpose which was to get the Jedi killed in battle, thus thinning their ranks to make Order 66 more likely to succeed.

[@kasinokaiser1319]

CIS: invades Tatooine Jawas: *It's free real estate*

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

Moister farmers: You need water for the big tanks?

[@renaissancenovice7202]

Hahaha

[@imperatorm.e.l.5162]

Utini

[@jh-ij4by]

mali is worse than tatooine

[@mohammedrazeenzaeencamil9344]

Hyper inflation : _right imma head in_

[@wilkor-lc7ox]

Wait, i thought i read or heard somewhere that clone's blasters gas was ionized, and that is why their blasters had blue "ammo" (so their guns where much more effective on droids, but still they worked on organics)

[@b3a5t0fwar9]

I thought as much, too!

[@punctuationman334]

wilkor 1792 it would actually make so much sense.

[@jacobabrisz9272]

I remember seeing that in one of the old matchup books where they put clones against Stormtroopers. Think it was one of the schoolastic ones

[@williamnelson5549]

I heard this from other lore videos from other Star Wars KZbinrs.

[@Maudios]

This is (at least in legends) true!

[@joshdoz9234]

I have some theories. 1) Ion weapons are expensive to make. 2) Stated in the video, the Clones faced both organic and droid enemies. Might as well use one weapon system that can adequately kill both. 3) *Something, something, Dark Side........ Something, something, Complete*

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

Palpatine

[@braydenusherwood2986]

First idk if it's still cannon but the bolt colour represented what gas was used. Red was a cheap gas(Tibanna) that was most effective against organics, Blue was ion based charges that was more effective against droids and green was the high quality gas. Also their were ion weapons but they were gruesome weapons outlawed by the Republic and are cannon. T-7 ion disruptor rifles.

[@franciscovazquezjr4550]

They were too busy watching those wrist rockets

[@brandonhancock8620]

Francisco Vazquez they were too busy making sure the sector was clear

[@keithkeith293]

They were too busy making sure they had the high ground.

[@zelithfang2365]

They were too busy comparing things to the simulations.

[@jacobmeza91]

WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS!!!!!

[@keithkeith293]

They were too busy saying, "Hello there!"

[@IrishPhoenix7]

The one time that “fire the ion cannons” would’ve made sense

[@KellingtonDorkswafer]

I heard that the bolts were blue since it was a mixture of ion and regular blaster energy. But that could have just been misinformation.

[@mobslayer211]

Doggo Lad Gaming everyone else is saying that,so unless Disney (as per usual) made it legends for no reason than you should be right

[@Linkman95]

Everyone keeps saying that, but no one has a source.

[@KellingtonDorkswafer]

@@Linkman95 I believe I read it in one of the old DK guides. On either Episode II or III. I'm not actually sure. I'll go check the library next time I'm there.

[@KellingtonDorkswafer]

I also see that someone else took my comment idea and added further information. So go read their comment.

[@evanveres7483]

You’re right

[@ignaciorodriguez5636]

I always thought that the blue color of Clone's weapons was ionizes blaster fire.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

Why not do a Scarif and ionize a Lukrehulk then drop it on the Droid army? Edit: there, satisfied keyboard grammar critics?

[@nutzbatj]

Jean-Luc Martel English please

[@danieltravelstead]

Its Batj stop being an ass or learn to read. I always thought that as well Ignacio!

[@winstonlewis5630]

Daniel Travelstead you are saying you understood “why not do a scarf and ionize lekrehulk then drop it on the droid army” you have truly transcended human thinking

[@chriskey5414]

@@winstonlewis5630 no like Scarif how the star destroyer was dropped on to the shield ring and blew it up. Ionize an entire battle ship then drop it onto

[@Linkman95]

Hey Eck, thanks for answering. I didn't know that fact about ion dispersal. I really gotta get my hands on the Essential Guide to Warfare.

[@neofulcrum5013]

I thought that was what the blue blaster bolts were for.

[@AstinCrow]

Unless Disney said otherwise, it might as well be. That's my headcanon anyway.

[@starspangledbat]

Astin Crow yeah that’s why they are blue. Disney just doesn’t know

[@reedcoffman3210]

Yeah I thought the blue meant they were better suited for droids or vehicles

[@TheWingland]

What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck

[@brianwoodel2160]

oooh that would be intresting

[@punctuationman334]

TheWingland the covenant would be swiftly disposed of.

[@jh-ij4by]

#halofan :))

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@punctuationman334 They already were. The gap from Halo 1 to Halo 2 was only a couple months, and Halo2+3 were over in like a week. After 25 long years of genocidal defeat the covenant was broken in three months.

[@punctuationman334]

DIEGhostfish because of infighting that the prophets started. If the covenant stayed united they would have destroyed earth and wiped out humanity in less than a month. They would eventually activate the halos and destroy all life within the galaxy once again, leaving only dead space.

[@hiaimrandom4629]

Wait they didn't? I honestly thought that was the in-universe reason why clone blasters shot blue and the C.I.S shot red.

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

That's just to make easier to tell who is shooting on screen.

[@brandonmoya3322]

Same here, but I guess not

[@Prepare2Prosper]

In legends the different blaster colors because they use different sources air purification process is for the blaster gasses

[@genderqueergorehound]

I was under the impression blue bolts were plasma-based, which were more useful against droids, and red bolts were more useful against organics, which is why the clone army shifted to red bolts once the Empire came about.

[@Daniel_Jones]

@@genderqueergorehound what would green be?

[@123455thatguy]

Honestly though the fact that ion weapons scatter more shouldn't be an issue as the CIS attack in large waves of soldiers. You can blast em all day and just hit droids.

[@ThreeProphets]

In Legends, the DC-15A was one of the most powerful heavy blasters the galaxy had ever seen. Along with a barrel more than twice the length of the carbine version, offering much better muzzle velocity, it had a setting that allowed the user to overcharge the tibanna gas flow and fire an extremely devastating blast capable of penetrating ferrocrete and light armor at ranges up to a kilometer (presumably, I think Battlefront II added a zero), serving as a dual purpose anti-material rifle. With the CIS's wide variety of vehicles and heavy infantry, this was considered a much more important utility. Of course, the GAR carried a variety of ion ordnances including the shoulder mounted cannon that Eck came up with, especially if you want to take the equipment in the games as entirely canonical, which is debatable

[@phoenixx913]

The overcharge feature of the DC-15a enabled the weapon to blow several foot wide hole in a ferrocrete wall and pierce heavy infantry grade armor. and the max range for the rifle was actually 10kms and it could be fired at that range in its normal power setting.

[@TheWingland]

I’d like to see Rahm Kota brought in if he’s not already I’m actually not sure of his canon status. I think he’s be perfect to have in like a 3 episode arc in season 7 of clone wars where he initially dislikes and disparages Anakin and Obi-Wan for the foolish military decisions they’ve made. I think particularly having Anakin start the arc acting like he’s the greatest military mind ever and having Kota basically call him an idiot for his decisions. Then at the end of the arc have Kota tell Anakin the he has earned his (Kota’s) respect as a general but Obi-Ean hasn’t as a means of driving a wedge between Anakin and Obi-Wan. I think it would also be interesting to see Kota interacting with Rex and Cody since he hates clones and to see Rex, Cody, Anakin, and Obi-Wan interact with Kota’s private militia,

[@mobslayer211]

TheWingland I’m pretty sure Rahm Kota is alright Legends now(like the rest of the Force Unleashed)

[@mirrorslash028]

Kota and the Raxus Prime jedi are the only things from the force unleashed I wish to be canon

[@cloroxbleach1897]

TheWingland he was supposed to show up in rogue one but they cut it. So he might appear idk.

[@nuclearjanitors]

He's a punk bitch.

[@lanesmith1465]

Kanan is his canon counterpart.

[@jackal8176]

I actually always thought that the in universe reason the clone blaster bolts were blue was because they were ionized.

[@kovenmaitreya7184]

I thought the blue color meant it was ionized bolts. It hasn't been used since that I can remember.

[@waywardrush]

Here is a question i've had for a while: in our universe we refer to event timelines and BBY or ABY, What calendar did they use in universe and what year was it?

[@arrun5125]

a question I have often had as well. I presume that different planets and cultures would have different systems and also different governments. It is likely that the empire for example took the year 0 from the formation of the Empire, and it may be that the First Order would do that as well, whilst perhaps the Republic took year 0 from some old important date like the Ruusan reformation and perhaps the new republic from the downfall of the Empire. I think that would probably make most sense.

[@Daniel_Jones]

(my time has come) This is actually answered in the canon book "The Rebel Files". That book is a collection of documents and conversations about the formation of the Empire. In the book, they date everyth9ing with BFE and AFE (Before the Formation of the Empire and After the Formation of the Empire) when addressing the new years the following quote is shown "In addition to wiping away the Republic, the Emperor reset the dating system to the time before the formation of the Emire and the time after its formation-yet another display of his absolute control."-Leia This calendar only lasted to 25 AFE. After this (in legends) it was switched to the common BBY and ABY after Mon Mothma became the Chancellor of the New Republic. In canon, they went to BSI and ASI (before Starkiller incident and after Starkiller incident) I hope this helps you.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@Daniel_Jones The hell with BSI.

[@casbot71]

Everyone got really nervous when the Death Star was near complete, even if they didn't know about it, just cause the calender was running out. It was a mix of Y2K, 2012 and 1000AD hysteria all rolled into one …

[@casbot71]

Another huge advantage of ion weaponry is that disabled droids can then be salvaged and reprogrammed to be *GAR droids.* They can either march with the GAR with a new colour scheme (commandeering enemy equipment is _standard practice in attrition warfare)_ or be released to infiltrate the CIS and raise mayhem behind enemy lines. Still the same could be done just by scavenging the battlefield for undamaged parts and _mix and matching_ to get working droids. Really leads to a #AskEcks of _why the GAR didn't use hacked CIS droids_ - besides the three that R2-D2 reprogrammed. …

[@samspeed6271]

Great video, interesting analysis. Here's my thoughts: I agree with you that blasters are generally more useful because of accuracy, destructive power, and that they can be used against organics. But also, ion weapons only disable droids temporarily, so if you did use ion weapons, you still need some way of permanently killing them. But, that said, I think they could've used ion weapons for some things. Maybe an RPG kind of weapon firing an ion warhead, or a man portable guided missile launcher, or an ion shotgun for close quarters combat like on a ship that could disable a Super Battle Droid with one full discharge. I also think that maybe the Republic could've tried doing a BDZ on a planet using ion cannons instead of turbolasers. Anything with an electronic circuit gets fried, but living things don't get killed, so that eliminates a lot of collateral casualties.

[@Xenoray1]

Ion RPG is common against the cis tanks and trooptransporter like in battlefront 2

[@Jfk2Mr]

@@Xenoray1 orbital bombardment using ion weapon... So you just shot a lot of lightnings that can not only disable gear but also fry anyone in vicinity of hit - and trust me, you do not want to look at high degree electrical burns including what relatively low voltage (few thousand volts, altough a lot of amperage) lightning can do with head - especially if it hits directly. In addition thermal effects of such discharge can be devastating on similar level as dedicated incendiary weapon

[@zayuh1896]

I absolutely LOVE when you upload these types of videos! I’ve ALWAYS thought “Why not use ion weapons?” Now I’ve LEARNED why. The learning aspect is the fun part

[@davidthomas2870]

Maybe include a grenade launcher on the standard clone blaster to launch conventional grenades and special emp ordinance? Then just vary what grenades issue based on who you're up against. Frags or flashbangs for organics, emp and HEAT for droids. Then have have ion special or "heavy" weapon options for squad heavy weapons or squad specialists, like how irl infantry platoons have mortars and medium machine guns, and individual squads have one guy with a light machine gun and/or one guy with a marksman rifle. Just swap in varying size ion weapons in that role as they become necessary, using automatic blasters and mortars or rocket launchers as standard issue special and heavy weapons.

[@wangbot47]

YAY ECKS IS FINALLY TALKING ABOUT ION WEAPONS!

[@duckduckgoose6913]

It would be cool to see more videos about the senate or the separatist parliament

[@SukatoKjolen]

You mean Palpatine and Count Dooku?

[@IamBlackToast]

There was another Star Wars lore channel that went over the different colors of blaster bolts. As I recall, it went something like: red bolts were due to using cheap low quality gas, green bolts were due to using higher quality expensive gas, and blue bolts were standard bolts that were ionized to be more effective against droids.

[@wilhufftarkin8543]

The DC-15 variants already were semi ion blasters. Let me quote Wookieepedia: "On the high setting, the large rifle's powerful blue plasma bolts were more than capable of penetrating the armor of most infantry personnel, and because of the hyper-ionization, they were exceptionally effective against both droids and living targets."

[@OceanHedgehog]

5:16 scenes like that are what magic Star Wars: Clone Wars unique

[@benjaminstorace6699]

going back to Eck's vid on the lack of usage of spaceborne artillery, spaceborne ion artillery would be the bain of the Clone Wars Era CIS.

[@Infinity__1]

In all honesty I never thought of that

[@zelithfang2365]

This was one question that kept popping up in my head from time to time..thanks dude.

[@unigaming9921]

I'm going to make a guess before I watch the video; The Clones have to fight organics as well (such as on Umbara), and Ion weapons aren't as effective again organics. So while the Ion weapons would be slightly more effective against droids, the regular blasters usefulness against organics compensate for it.

[@darthsidious149]

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?

[@Cobretsov2022]

Darth Sidious No.

[@darthsidious149]

Vice Kanzler Kwait123 I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you.

[@spartangoku7610]

Darth Sidious yes, quit telling us! It’s boring!

[@darthsidious149]

Spartan Goku you’re quite right... I need some new material...

[@spartangoku7610]

Darth Sidious aren’t you all the Sith? Someone’s gotta have an interesting story in there.

[@Dyundu]

Totally agree with you on re-adding Talon Karrde. He'd fit pretty well even in the New EU, especially in something like The Mandalorian.

[@SirSharkus]

I like the idea of Talon Karrde joining the cannon. It would be easy to work him in as a reason for part of the Resistance fleet at the end of episode 9

[@Lord_Shadowz]

The Clone wars showed the B2 droid had no protection against hand held ion weapons. Season 5 showed that.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

I always thought the republic blasters in the prequels were mostly blue because they were at least slightly ion based weaponry.

[@gavinlopez7302]

I’ve never thought about this. This was a really cool video with very reasonable explanations

[@RikkiTikkiTavi290]

Pretty sure the clones blaster fire was blue because it was ionized to be more effective against droids. Was the case in Legends at least, which is of course superior.

[@hughgedney3393]

A very extremely great video as always EckhartsLadder. And be safe too.

[@BobBob-zg5lz]

I was talking with this one guy who said Fives was still alive, and I didn’t understand why he would believe that since they showed him die. He said that the bolts from the clone weapons are blue like ion blasts so Fives could have survived that. I told him that the clones have shot regular people in armor with those shots and killed them, but that didn’t seem to change his mind.

[@Linkman95]

I'd want Kyle Katarn in canon. I don't know how well he'd fit, but he's always been my favorite.

[@AlanGChenery]

Linkman95 didn't Kyle Katarn (brooding badass with daddy issues) and Jan Ors (experienced rebel spy, ethnic minority and pilot) just get put into a blender with a sprinkle of Disney gender/diversity quota (aka no white men except villains) and spit out Cassian Andor (experienced spy, ethnic minority and pilot) and Jyn Urso (brooding badass with daddy issues)? :p

[@artfact2]

Yes, he an Jan would be great and could still fit most of their broad storylines in canon. The fact we know so very little of Luke's Jeditemple gives me a slight bit of hope.:)

[@supremeleadergnkdroid3202]

Easy solution. Believe the EU is still canon and ignore Disney’s

[@shemhazi]

It would make double sense for the Republic to rely heavily on Ion Weaponry during the Clone Wars but of course, they had to stick with conventional blasters, especially for Order 66. It makes you wonder if the CiS could have mass produced Hex weapons to retaliate against their organic enemies. Speaking of, I wonder how the Empire or the First Order would utilize Trihexalon if they legalized it again?

[@KryyssTV]

I would say the answer is actually far more simple. If you look in canon, every ion cannon has either been a fixed emplacement, part of a major battleship or equipped on heavy bombers like the Y-Wing. What all of these things have in common is their power generators. The Y-Wing had especially strong shields, stationary turrets had access to generators used to power whole facilities and the Malevolence was an unusually large and powerful vessel. This suggests that ion weaponry is very demanding on power supplies which is why they are impractical for infantry and armored vehicles but small single-use ion torpedo's and detonators were possible.

[@jjnewbold]

I don't know if there's enough material to go on in the books, but I'd love to see the Skipray (sp?) Blastboat from Heir to the Empire in one of your vids. That book was the first EU title I tried that I found really fantastic. Thanks again for making the Bellator vid I requested so much! I love it and the Resurgent so much. I don't think a one on one or a two on one with these two ships would be close enough to be good, but I'd love to see them featured more in Starship Vs.

[@oskarglerup1919]

So the thing is the clones kinda used ion weapon because the reasen that the bolts of the clones weapons are blue is because they are ionised so its kinda a ion blaster

[@jlotti009]

Ha! Thanks my man this just crossed my mind and yours was the first one that came up.. i was already subbed shoulda known you pondered this already

[@Wombat722]

Well I think that blue bolts that the clones use is a type of ion weapon/blaster bolt to help disabled droids, but that’s just my opinion

[@raymond4568]

The Battlefront games answered this. Ion shot turns bolts blue and is supposed to do higher damage to machines like vehicles. The only reason it doesn't in Clone Wars matches is for balancing as much as the clones already fire blue shots. So while it's an easy visual cue to make the good guys visible, it also has a small lore explanation that while not explicit is definitely suggested.

[@javiersavala2385]

The clones did sort of have an ion weapon. Blue blazer fire and turbolazers fire were ionized, which ment that the did more damage to droids, and could temporarily deactivate subsystems in star cruisers. This first reason is why they common during the clone wars and rare afterwards.

[@s3ntience]

i’m so happy with all the clone wars content so far :D

[@skaboodlydoodle]

"The DC15A could destroy or incapacitate a battle droid with a single shot usually" DICE pls take notes for next patch.

[@AaronDarkus]

Wait.... But blue blaster color means that the ammunition is ion-charged, no?. So that means we have been fooled all this time around?.

[@clone9159]

Do Tie Avenger vs Tie Silencer Tie Oppressor vs B-Wing Tie Intercepter vs Longsword

[@bluetoothschizophrenic]

This is a question I have had nagging at me for years. Thank you for finally making a video on it

[@stephenbond1990]

I read somewhere that the dc series blasters had a minor ion charge that made them more effective against droids but this made them slightly unstable.

[@blamalam7257]

The problem with the Ion weapons could easily hit friendly units because of ion dispersion is bunk, mainly because the reason stated is stated from how huge ion ship weapons and large anti vehicle ion weapons disperse, which is logical considering the power generation used, it doesn't explain how in the universe which includes revamped and Kotor 1 and 2, which had hand held ion weapons as a standard feature produces by more than a few galactic weapons manufacturers

[@skyhawk554]

Easy answer, production capacity and logistics. Every weapon system an army uses not only increases the amount of weapons and amo needed but also spare parts tools and more. So the total material that needs to be manufactured and distributed goes up exponentially, and takes the costs with it. Besides, if the GAR got to specialize its weapons then the CIS could do the same, to far more graphic ends.

[@cloudcleaver23]

Recover an ionized battle droid: recharge battery, hit reset button. Recover a properly blasted battle droid: congrats, you might have a few spare parts if it's even worth your time to extract them.

[@lukasvillar9328]

Specializing in just one thing is generally not a good idea, the Sr-71 is a good example of that, he had no equal in his area but eventually much more versatile equipment appeared.

[@TheTransforcer]

its my understanding that, besides needing large area effect lightning stun weapons to be effective, that the main problem with the cis vs republic was mass troop management. if the republic had enough stun weapons to win battles, that would only leave the droids to be salvaged and used elsewhere. the republics biggest need was to destroy and limit the production of droids, therefore needing heavier and more laser type weapons to fight with. droids stunned can be reset and used again, recycle if you would. droids blasted apart would render them un usable without a proper smelting factory.

[@phoenixx913]

They actually did in a way, the clones weaponry fired bolts of hyper ionized plasma, which made them very effective against droids while still retaining their effectiveness on organic targets. Enabling them to fight both pretty equally without having to swap to completely different weapons for organics as opposed to droids. In addition to that the clones used various EMP weaponry.

[@adventwolfbane]

Plus the blasters they used already had EMP characteristics since they had plasma added to the bolts that do more damage to machines hence the blue color.

[@Meravokas]

Technically speaking when you consider the properties as detailed in the visual dictionaries, and just the general 'color' designation given to things in the SW universe. While not strictly ion weapons, DC series weapons have a higher EMP factor on target due to the level of plasma they're using and the amount of EM cohesion used for each shot. Which is why even as the S variant came to semi standard issue, many Clones stuck with the heavier and ultimately more effective standard 'heavy' rifle variant.

[@captainkiwi77]

I would also like to point out that we see in most cases with ions that it’s a temporary knock down of systems until they boot back up, it’d be a shit situation to lead an assault and gain ground only to find yourself boxed in after the droids you knocked out some back up

[@australianjames1114]

Ion weapons seem like a no brainer against droids. My question is will an ion weapon do the same damage to flesh as a blaster?? If not what would it do???

[@nobleman9393]

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[@donbrunodelamancha1927]

Doctor J, I have had the same question. However, I didn’t consider individual combat weapons. I was thinking more along the line of a large tank. Possibly multiple canons. We’ve seen what direct ion hits do to an SD2. The electrical systems overwhelmed often explode. In a large tank you could have large power sources, even have a shield generator. Much L♥️VE to You and the Whole of Team EckhartsLadder‼️‼️‼️♥️♥️♥️✊🏼✊🏼✊🏼⚡️⚡️⚡️🥃🥃🥃

[@pinkiepain1291]

Idea: Droid popper MIRV mortar, fire's a canaster that bursts in mid air flinging droid poppers in a wide area to take out large swaths of droids.

[@alexbibby9641]

If I was outfitting the clone army I would start with assault rifle size and power weapons, like a mix between a dc 15a and a dc 15c. I would also give them more support weapons like squad machine guns not just big miniguns, the best example or which I have seen is the dlt 19 machine gun. I would lastly give them more squad level fire support weapons like underslung grenade launchers and standardised grenade distribution. Basically I would model them more off of real world modern infantry

[@BennyLlama39]

Less than thirty seconds in, my guess is the ion rounds would fry the clones' electronics in the event of friendly fire.

[@ethandearman3965]

Blaster bolt would probably fry the clone in the event of friendly fire lol

[@timtetreault663]

Zayne Carrick. I loved the knights of the old republic comic!

[@rmlab1985]

I was under the assumption that the reason the clones blasters fire blue bolts was because they were calibrated to have a partial ionic charge that helped with deactivating the droids while maintaining most of the traditional strengths of a blaster.

[@thorshammer7883]

Can you combine a Ion weapon with a railgun or mass driver for extra damage?

[@akumaking1]

Before video: Too expensive? After video: Palpatine, too specialized, and too inaccurate.

[@highadmiraljt5853]

Josh Same thing I thought.

[@GoranXII]

I always thought it was due to a size-limitation of some sort. The ion weapons we always see are big, ship-mounted or emplaced weapons, so it might be that a proper ion weapon can't be shrunk down enough to fit in a blaster while still being effective, the same way it's rare to find explosive _bullets_ , while explosive cannon shells are much more common.

[@orangepenguin2975]

Can you do a video of fixing the clone army and republic navy?

[@User-hz5vz]

Some times i wonder , why didn't Obi wan just keep turned on his light saber upside down and make it go all over the floors slicing untill something it touches got blows up

[@spamviking]

I want Admiral Daala to come back, could be done pretty smoothly I reckon, have her still be in command of an experimental weapons division operating so far in the dark they didn't realise the Empire fell and come back and stir things up a bit. Also Kyle Katarn. The galaxy need Kyle Katarn.

[@Martel_Clips]

I think a good use of ions would be indirect fire weapons like mortar, grenades, mines for ground vehicles and facilities, and some rpg style for vehicles/airborne

[@biolj]

I always thought the blue color of the bolts fired by Republic blaster weapons signified an ion or emp component to them, hence their relative uniqueness compared to the red bolts used by the Empire, Rebellion, and CIS (and even the green bolts used by the Naboo security forces in Ep 1). I figured they had a mostly normal effect against organics as seen in Ep 3 (not sure if any geonosians are seen getting blasted by clones in Ep 2) but had a slight advantage against electronics like droids. I'm sure it's explained in some book why the bolts are blue but those were always my thoughts about it based on what's seen in the movies and what I experienced playing games like Battlefront & Republic Commando.

[@Gryphorim]

Additional thoughts. Clone blasters firing blue bolts has been stated as having an ionised effect, though I'm not sure how cononical that is now. As for larger output ion weapons, Ion disruptors existed, possibly during the clone wars, but were banned by the empire due to the effect they had on living tissue.

[@TheShadowIsMine]

Hey Eck, another question on same vein. Understanding that jedi can basically see where incoming shots are coming in and deflect them, there was obviously a limit to how big of a bolt can be deflected (although im not sure that was ever quantified). Couldnt the CIS just mass heavier weapons like tank main armament / spider droids etc and more easily overwhelm jedi, would there be a good reason they didnt or did the jedi have a defense to this?

[@foust117]

I don't remember where I read it, but ion weapons are temperamental compared to conventional blasters. Even the ion cannon used in ESB was barely made functional before the battle due to difficulties in having it calibrated for use against orbitting capital ships (Echo base consisted of a lot of Han Solo modifications like using a ship ion cannon for defense). One of the guides also mentions charges for personal ion blasters needing to be fairly bulky and generally only contained single shots (pretty sure it was a section on Jawas). The Rebels series does have a sort of ion weapon that apparently was banned by the Senate but was still fairly deadly to organics, though that could just be new Canon basically handwaving away the differences between conventional blasters and ion weaponry (see Rise of Skywalker star destroyers using ion cannons and destroying Resistance ships versus disabling them).

[@zenebean]

Ion cannon shot guns could work really well, since droids can are often dangerous in close quarters. A kind of specialist weapon

[@ZeCroiSSanT950]

To be fair, they did test out ion weapons on the battlefield. It's possible that it would have been very expensive relative to blaster/laser weapons.

[@rossallan3585]

They did. Droid Popper Grenades, ideal when rolled correctly against Droideka. Fast enough to get there, slow enough to not trigger the shields.

[@AmonGus-zx5zr]

That Ki-adi Mundi death always gets me, it’s really sad.

[@jedhaney3547]

From what I understand Ion weapons smaller than what would be fitted on a vehicle were rare, as they were expensive and harder to supply/maintain for foot troops.

[@TheWingland]

Halo theory idea What if the UNSC had never researched the spartan 2 or mjolnir programs. However one month after first contact with the covenant the UNSC INFINITY and her escort fleet of Autumn class cruisers appear at earth through a wormhole. The ships are fully operational and have manuals detailing how all ship systems, such as shielding and more advanced slipsace, operate and also how to build them for other ships. However it goes not have the spartan 4s. How does this affect the human covenant war? Does humanity win or lose? #askeck

[@praeposter]

The covenant would be able to potentially trap the infinity and overwhelm it with numbers. As for the schematics, the Infinity took years to build and resources were stretched so thin that her sister ship, the UNSC Eternity was cannibalized for forerunner parts which the UNSC would find very hard to come by. Without the Spartans, FIRST STRIKE and the prevention of Halo firing would never have happened.

[@rapter229]

@@praeposter OP said one month after first contact. The halo games take place over 25 years after first contact, so the UNSC would still have had almost its entire industrial base intact and plenty of resources.

[@praeposter]

rapter229 i indeed forgot about the one month thing, but it really depends if Halsey is on board. I mean she’s the only one with knowledge of how to duplicate the forerunner engines and thats even if the UNSC can find the components. But i do think that if the UNSC had that knowledge along with the crews of those ships then they would be able to probably edge out the covenant in battles with less than 50 ships per side

[@alexFFrock]

Didn't in some place say something about the DC blaster line using special blaster gas that was partially ionized? Maybe I have dreamed it?

[@multikings20]

As to the need to kill creatures: T7 Ion Disrupters

[@Crip99763]

I though Clones used ion blaster & the reason they used blue color blaster was from Gungans blue balls that took out the droids in Eps 1 so the Republic used it as blaster bold against droids

[@Cab00se23]

@eckhartsladder what about the T-6 and T-7 ion disruptor rifles? What do we know about those and why they werent used, because we know that they can be devastating to organics.

[@lordatom905]

#AskEck May I ask a question do you think this may :maybe this is how new canon work The Empire continues for a year til the battle of Jakku were sprinted into sub factions some of them form the Imperial remanent others became warlords and other became the first order

[@landryharrell7]

Which Legends character would you want to see in cannon? Me: *Kal Skirata*

[@Wastydest]

I think you forgot to mention, that the blue blaster fire of the clones is actually Ion-Plasma.

[@mrbluea23]

#askEck Why do ships in Star Wars not use planetary shields? The seem really effective at blocking turbolazers.

[@DL24StaS]

Ah, an interesting question. There are many possible in-universe answers, such as: a) the clone army wasn't designed specifically to fight droids, as it was initially commissioned by Sifo-Dyas to counter the resurgent Sith threat, in whatever form it is going to manifest - hence a more versatile weapon set was needed, to be used against organics as well as droids; b) we can assume that the CIS engineers were no fools and knew about this weakness, therefore good insulation against ion weaponry would've been one of their first priorities, rendering it much less effective against CIS droids, or probably even almost ineffective; c) all the things that you've mentioned in the video - regular blasters did the job, are more versatile, probably more accurate, etc.

Talon Kardde is a damn good shout. Garm Bel Iblis would have been cool too

[@hjp14]

4:09 as much sense as this makes, barely a fraction of the battle droids killed in the Clone Wars TV show were killed with headshots. I've always considered that possibility but at the end of the day the issue is that writers are as fallible as anyone else, with the result being that very little within that show makes sense, not to mention SW lore as a whole.