Why didn't the USSR annex Poland?

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@SketchG
@SketchG 3 күн бұрын
Today is Poland's Independence Day Great timing
@Melonishy
@Melonishy 3 күн бұрын
Fr
@lunalingo4461
@lunalingo4461 3 күн бұрын
Independence from what?
@tacotaco288
@tacotaco288 3 күн бұрын
@@lunalingo4461freedom at the end of ww1
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
​@@lunalingo4461 Germany.
@Festucius
@Festucius 2 күн бұрын
​@@lunalingo4461German, Russian and Austro-Hungarian empires.
@PolskaAnimations
@PolskaAnimations 3 күн бұрын
Ironic that you posted this on polish independence day
@The_whales
@The_whales 3 күн бұрын
But which one exactly?
@Tom-jg9de
@Tom-jg9de 3 күн бұрын
​@@The_whales if i remeber it's 1919
@decp12
@decp12 3 күн бұрын
@@Tom-jg9de *1918 :v
@Tom-jg9de
@Tom-jg9de 3 күн бұрын
@@decp12 oh thx
@Dionysus784
@Dionysus784 2 күн бұрын
i dont think it was randomly
@eospwwk
@eospwwk 2 күн бұрын
Maybe he knew that poles like to make uprisings
@robertklimczak5630
@robertklimczak5630 2 күн бұрын
Zawsze
@maki3904
@maki3904 Күн бұрын
gypsy tactics
@PLC_Mapping
@PLC_Mapping Күн бұрын
tak, POLSKA GUROM 🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
@drzewolejhvjgvwnoposting8734
@drzewolejhvjgvwnoposting8734 15 сағат бұрын
our tendency to rebel was exactly mentioned in video
@maki3904
@maki3904 14 сағат бұрын
@@drzewolejhvjgvwnoposting8734 gypsy tactics
@tkm238-d4r
@tkm238-d4r 2 күн бұрын
Simple. For Moscow, the problem with Poland was that it was too full of Poles. Solution. Shift all the Poles inside pre-1939 USSR to Poland. The de-Polonization of the USSR. Stalin understood Poles would never accept Russia or USSR.
@StekTM1
@StekTM1 Күн бұрын
The areas they annexed had Belarusian and Ukranian majorities who were siezed by Poland during the Polish Soviet war. The goal was always to get it back.
@daniiic5092
@daniiic5092 Күн бұрын
i mean nationalist polish figures with huge impact fled or were killed and im pretty sure some ukrainians went to the newly aquired territories of pomerania masuria and silesia
@Festucius
@Festucius Күн бұрын
@@tkm238-d4r It's a bit more complicated than that, e.g. Poles while being forced to abandon the Lithuanian countryside, so as to shift the land ownership structure, were not allowed easily to leave Vilnius, as they were to be lithuanised and not weaken the urban economy. Likewise leaving Belarus was made difficult on purpose. In principle you're correct, though. Stalin did consider Poles to be impossible to assimilate and sovietise.
@Mr_Topek
@Mr_Topek Күн бұрын
​@@StekTM1 These lands were polish long before USSR was a thing.
@StekTM1
@StekTM1 20 сағат бұрын
@@Mr_Topek Poland ruled them but at this point they were under russian rule since the end of the 18th century
@blueguns15000
@blueguns15000 3 күн бұрын
Polish Independence Day is a day where there is a video about Poland 106th anniversary of WWI’s end
@mariuszlech9173
@mariuszlech9173 Күн бұрын
Joseph Stalin about Poland. ''Communism and Poles are like fitting a saddle to a cow''.
@forgott_8182
@forgott_8182 18 сағат бұрын
it isnt exactly true. Poles could accept communism, but only on the initiative of the Polish lower class revolution and not one that was forcibly imposed by a foreign power.
@krainex
@krainex 13 сағат бұрын
poles were already lowkey started to accept communism in the saddle. for example remember the famous line from one of the opposition leaders "we arent anti socialism, we are anti the party".
@Tessarion7
@Tessarion7 12 сағат бұрын
​@@forgott_8182 maybe that could be possible in interwar period, but I'm a bit sceptical about it. But today there is about 0 chance Poland would accept comunism, no matter where it came from
@martinledermann1862
@martinledermann1862 10 сағат бұрын
@@Tessarion7 If it came from America, they'd accept it.
@TapOnX
@TapOnX 2 күн бұрын
We shouldn’t downplay the impact of international pressure. Before the war, Poland was a relatively populous European country - its population was only about 15% smaller than that of metropolitan France - with close ties to France and Great Britain. It was also a key part of the American vision for post-World War I Europe, as Poland’s independence was one of Wilson’s 14 Points. While the Allies did acknowledge Soviet dominance over Eastern Europe, allowing for military and indirect political control, incorporating Poland directly into the USSR was simply not an option. The Soviets held dominant control within their zone, but they weren’t omnipotent (consider Austria, Yugoslavia, and the Far East). Establishing solid communist rule over Poland took nearly eight years, in part because the Soviets had to maintain the appearance of an organic political shift.
@talusn9405
@talusn9405 2 күн бұрын
Fun Fact Before the war, Poland had a larger population than Spain.
@robertklimczak5630
@robertklimczak5630 2 күн бұрын
Ostatni partyzanckich gineli w latach szesdziesiatych.
@bobstone0
@bobstone0 4 сағат бұрын
Yes, the pressure of national opinion was important, but this work was also based on the policy of facts that Poles achieved in winning the Polish-Bolshevik war of 1920. When Poland managed to defend itself, France and England used this fact to balance Russia and Germany. The existence of the second Polish Republic was an argument for the existence of a Polish people's republic, which, as a state, theoretically a quarter sovereign, could more easily reject communism, unlike nations without a state. That's why I believe that the victory of 1920 is the greatest Polish victory that continues to pay off to this day.
@generaltiberiusxx2884
@generaltiberiusxx2884 3 күн бұрын
Well, one of the main reasons why Poland was Never incorporated into the USSR was because Stalin believed that the Polish people would favor nationalism over being part of the USSR And even if Poland was incorporated into the Soviet Union it would’ve led to more instability within the nation so in the end, Stalin made the right choice To leave Poland as a Soviet puppet state Knowing that it would be much more beneficial for the Soviet Union if it was a communist satellite state instead
@justacat2
@justacat2 3 күн бұрын
lol i bet after you finished the video you realised he read your thoughts 😂
@SuryaTwo-bk1ky
@SuryaTwo-bk1ky 3 күн бұрын
yeah no shit thats the whole videos point
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
* -because- , boso.
@LoLaSn
@LoLaSn 17 сағат бұрын
@@SuryaTwo-bk1ky You ever thought that maybe, just maybe he left that comment before watching it? Tard
@lordfunk777
@lordfunk777 2 күн бұрын
The people in the comments acting as if this video wasn’t purposefully posted on Polish Independence day 💀💀💀💀
@cub8280
@cub8280 3 күн бұрын
Polish here, very well explained!
@Menzeller
@Menzeller 3 күн бұрын
You posted this on Polish independence day. . . 💀😆 also the animated maps you use in your videos are so good!
@soumyajitdas1729
@soumyajitdas1729 3 күн бұрын
Additional notes- At 0:15 1) not only Finland and Poland, USSR had also didn't controlled the Kars territory/Kars Republic (current-day part of Turkey) which was a part of the Russian Empire till 1914 when the Ottomans occupied it and later subsequently the newly formed Turkey. 2) Even after the continuation war and after the end of WWII, the USSR proposed Finland many times considering joining the USSR with the condition of giving back those territories Finland lost in the continuation war till the mid-'50s. They even had a Soviet Republic for that (Karelo-Finnish SSR) At 1:24 The proposal of the very first Curzon line was different from the current one as this includes some more territories from Ukraine and a bit from Belarus (e.g - Lviv or parts of Grodno, Brest etc.) Overall that's a great video, you got a new subscriber :)
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
You're right👍
@free_uyghuristan
@free_uyghuristan 3 күн бұрын
0:15 The reasoning for that was because Turkey was going to take Kars, going successful in it’s independence war. USSR made a deal, Batum in exchange for help. Not all of kars because it was ethnically turkish
@Peopleunder
@Peopleunder 3 күн бұрын
"Finland considering joining the USSR" , where your source come from and confirm it as true?
@armenianmapper3168
@armenianmapper3168 3 күн бұрын
​@@HistorySpeedrun17gonna add, that after WW2 USSR had territorial claims to Turkey, or the Western Armenia abd Lazistan. Only after Turkey joined NATO and Stalin was dead, USsR did not claim anything to Turkey anymore.
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
Occupied lands are still part of the respective country. 😂 The first time Ottomania occupied Kars was on 25 April 1918. It never did in 1914.😂 Learn basic history before embarrassing yourself.
@MachetManPL
@MachetManPL 3 сағат бұрын
Fun fact, the first Polish communist leader, Bolesław Bierut (who was a staunch Stalinist), wanted to incorporate Poland into the USSR, but Stalin refused him.
@salahal-saleh3076
@salahal-saleh3076 3 күн бұрын
This channel is going to grow fast. Keep up the good work and the new ideas
@cortexradio
@cortexradio 3 күн бұрын
Congratulations on 1k subscribers-you truly deserve it!
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@redagar2894
@redagar2894 3 күн бұрын
Love how clear and detailed your explanation is given the time restriction. Wish u good luck in the future.
@jeskler
@jeskler 3 күн бұрын
You know, I clicked on this video expecting a spiel sounded like it was straight from Senator McCarthy himself, but was actually surprised on how factual and objective it was.
@magdanalepa6881
@magdanalepa6881 3 күн бұрын
i love these short videos, your style reminds me of history matters and oversimplified yet its still very unique and informative. Also, as a pole i gotta say you explained this very well! im subscribing and i wish you luck as i see great potential in this channel.
@communist750
@communist750 22 сағат бұрын
So far, this is most underrated history educational channel I have seen, you are doing great videos.
@KedAR_48
@KedAR_48 2 күн бұрын
Fun fact: when the USSR was collapsing, a couple of Poles proposed to Gorbachev that he creates a new SSR comprising of Poland's lost eastern territories. Eastern Polish Soviet Socialist Republic was meant to be a short-lived entity that, after the Soviet collapse, would enable Poland to regain control over their lost land. Gorbachev actually was positive towards the idea, but mainly because it would create friction between Poland, Ukraine Lithuania and Belarus who mainly inhabitted these lands. Polish government, already democratic, realised these and ofc they halted any further talks on the matter. This video makes you wonder how would Poland look territoriarly today if it was directly annexed into the USSR. 😢
@robertklimczak5630
@robertklimczak5630 2 күн бұрын
Jak to mówił stalin? Łatwiej krowe osiodlac ( uzywac jak wierzchowca)niz wprowadzić komunizm w polsce.
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 2 күн бұрын
Probably the same way as it does now. USSR wasn't keen on merging territories with different dominant ethnic groups together, unless they were very small. There's no reason for hypothetical PSSR to have parts of BSSR and UkrSSR, especially considering those state havs their own nationalists.
@krzysztofr899
@krzysztofr899 21 сағат бұрын
Not Poles to Gorbachev but Gorbachev to Polish communist party. Thanks God Poles didn't agree
@baltuss76
@baltuss76 11 сағат бұрын
​@@krzysztofr899 exactly 😅
@fudotoku8179
@fudotoku8179 4 сағат бұрын
"Already democratic" Dude, ordinary citizens were shot in the main square, workers' councils were liquidated, workers' unions were liquidated. What democracy? Already dictatorial Poland, you wanted to say
@ruslendii6001
@ruslendii6001 Күн бұрын
The USSR did not try to annex Poland because it would have been hell for the USSR bureaucracy and also the economy.Imagine that your country is destroyed. And instead of focusing on itself, the country takes new territories that are in the same condition . As proof, I can give the example of Bulgaria in the 70-80s, they wanted to integrate it into the USSR. Bulgaria borders two NATO countries, Greece and Turkey, but this was not a problem for the USSR. From this we can make the conclusion is that Poland was not annulled for a lot of reasons reasons. 1.Strong nationalism in Poland. 2. Unacceptability of this by the allied countries. 3. Potentially dangerous territories for the regime (chance of starting separatism in bordering SSR Ukraine Belarus Lithuania in the USSR) 4. The general situation after the Second World War 1945 - the destroyed economy of 1960 - a banal lack of need for territories. 5. Raising tensions in the world - neighboring countries such as Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia would not appreciate such a maneuver and would put their sovereignty at risk.
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Thank you everyone for 1000 subscribers 🎉
@jameloncio644
@jameloncio644 3 күн бұрын
I can't believe this channel has just 1k subscribers, keep up the great work!
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
It was made last week lmao. It has very many.
@jameloncio644
@jameloncio644 3 күн бұрын
@GenovaYork24 WOW!
@年輕女孩瘋狂
@年輕女孩瘋狂 2 күн бұрын
your videos are great, happy to see them have that much views for a new channel, hope u succeed bro
@MrScar88
@MrScar88 Сағат бұрын
Well, you nailed it. We rebel, because we dont like being controlled, and then when we get independence, we invite others to make decisions for us. Oh the irony.
@insomnia1437
@insomnia1437 2 күн бұрын
great video, though there's a minor mistake on polish-german border at 2:00 (silesia) anyway, you've gained a new subscriber;)
@lookash3048
@lookash3048 3 күн бұрын
1 There were much more Poles than Finns, Estonians, Latvians, and Lithuanians all together. 2. There were fresh ethnic conflicts between Poles and 4 other Soviet nations (Lithuanians. Belarusians, Ukrainians, and Russians).
@moonlight.6969
@moonlight.6969 3 күн бұрын
Also The borders were already decided before the end of war, and Stalin didn't knew if he's gonna control berlin, so he gave Poland the east german teritories, which they wouldn't agree to just give it to the USSR. That's one of the main reasons, but the second is that Poland never was one state with the ussr unlike the baltics that gave up their independence to the soviets after threatening them. Also Poles craved for independence and to the last day believed that their allies would not abandon them. There was held a rigged elections in which communists won by 90% of the vote in 1945 thus Poland joined the warsaw pact and had communist dictatorship, however hte point is, the Poland was supposed to be independent country not part of the USSR
@robertklimczak5630
@robertklimczak5630 2 күн бұрын
Nie zapomnij że o mało co po 2 światowej byłaby wojna o granice polski i czechoslowacji.
@foreignreacts
@foreignreacts Күн бұрын
Someone recommended me to do a reaction to this video. I hope you gain a lot more attention Your channel is amazing.
@bebesin162
@bebesin162 3 күн бұрын
Mark my words, you will become a BIG channel
@whitehawk4099
@whitehawk4099 3 күн бұрын
Fairly good video, just one thing to add: Another reason to not establish a PSSR was that a nominally independent Poland would be justified in gaining western territories due to their territorial losses in the east than the Soviet Union annexing that territory directly and ethnically cleansing the German inhabitants.
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
Relocating.
@whitehawk4099
@whitehawk4099 2 күн бұрын
@GenovaYork24 From Wikipedia: "Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area"
@whitehawk4099
@whitehawk4099 2 күн бұрын
@@GenovaYork24 From Wikipedia "Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ... groups from a given area" Edit is checking if this posted
@whitehawk4099
@whitehawk4099 2 күн бұрын
Also, relocating people in trains in the winter, then stopping them and forcing them out into the elements in the middle of nowhere and forcing them to strip as you do so is not exactly something you do to someone you want to survive
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 2 күн бұрын
@@whitehawk4099 Yes, relocating is ethnic cleansing.
@pawelmod3292
@pawelmod3292 Күн бұрын
Poland as part of Warsaw Pact has destroyed not only the pact but also initiated the democratic changes influencing German unification and USSR collapse. Good job! Please just do not destroy EU ;-)
@czarnywilkgaming8255
@czarnywilkgaming8255 Сағат бұрын
Even tho Poland wasn't part of USSR, it still kinda inspired whole eastern bloc to fall. Problem with Poland was that they won't listen to anyone trying to control them against their will. Funny enough, time when Poland was under the partition was time when Polish culture was developing really fast, alot Polish patrotic books or other kinds of art. We just wanted a free and Independent country after all these years no matter the cost.
@bluetophatanimations
@bluetophatanimations 3 күн бұрын
It went from “Why Did” to “Why Didn’t” Love your videos!
@phelimridley6727
@phelimridley6727 11 сағат бұрын
Another reason is having a Polish state outside of the USSR kept the two neighbours of Poland and Lithuania separated. The CP feared not only Polish nationalism but also these onetime confederates making common cause again.
@fudotoku8179
@fudotoku8179 4 сағат бұрын
Poland literally conquered Vilnius in the interwar period and committed genocide against Lithuanians. Incorporation of the Polish Republic into the USSR would have meant only a low-intensity war between Lithuanians and Poles, as it was between Ukrainians and Poles, which would have taken tens of thousands of civilian lives.
@doughszynk6143
@doughszynk6143 21 сағат бұрын
Very good analysis 👍
@Peopleunder
@Peopleunder 3 күн бұрын
"Stalin aim to annex entirety of Finland" more like create puppet government.
@lmao.3661
@lmao.3661 3 күн бұрын
the democratic republic would choose to integrate itself into the glorious and free union of soviet socialist republics.
@flame9826
@flame9826 3 күн бұрын
True
@Бекрия
@Бекрия 3 күн бұрын
Before the creation of the UN, Soviet positioned themselves as the only communist state that will unite whole world (which in referered in the name of the country). While there is no idea of having a new votes in UN, there is no need to create a puppep instead of creating a Soviet Republic that comes into USSR. Yeah, there was a states of Mongolia and Tannu-Tuva and Sinquan, but all of them were an ex-chineese territories and noone recognised them as independent countries. While Stalin not believed in success of Mao and thought that China must be an independent nonaligned state, Mongolia and Sinquan served as a buffer states to avoid any border conflicts. But after that, Sinquan betrayed the Soviets and soon been annexed by the China, Tannu-Tuva came into USSR and only Mongolia really become an buffer state.
@duckling3615
@duckling3615 3 күн бұрын
Nope. The Finno-Karelian SSR shows clear intentions of annexation
@Peopleunder
@Peopleunder 3 күн бұрын
​@@duckling3615annexation part of Karelia, Salla , Petsamo , Little island on the Gulf of Finland and establish puppet regime (Finnish Democratic Republic) but in end up becoming Karelo-Finnish SSR before be incorporated into Russian SFSR in 16 July 1956.
@somechannel2461
@somechannel2461 10 сағат бұрын
Felix Dzerjinskii and Rokosovskii when history speedrun told main reason: biggest BRUH in history
@MIMALECKIPL
@MIMALECKIPL 2 күн бұрын
The bastard knew we would keep fighting him
@DictatorTsirGen
@DictatorTsirGen 3 күн бұрын
Great video 👍
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@DictatorTsirGen
@DictatorTsirGen 3 күн бұрын
@@HistorySpeedrun17 np bro 👍
@sillylittleinternetperson3932
@sillylittleinternetperson3932 3 күн бұрын
love this channel
@rozrywkowyczlowiek1
@rozrywkowyczlowiek1 3 күн бұрын
Stalin probably thinked that Poland as soviet satelite would be strong ally
@robertklimczak5630
@robertklimczak5630 2 күн бұрын
Mielismy zdobywać Danie przez północne niemcy . Na dzień dobry mielismy zbombardować atomowkami Danie I północne niemcy.atomowe składy bomb były w tajnych rosyjskich bazach w polsce. Rosjanie pilnowali by polska nie rozwijała się. W pewnych kierunkach. Zabroniono rozwijać przemysl rakietowy, generala polskiego naukowca który poszedł w kierunku budowy atomowej broni zabito. Nie pozwolono rozwijać pewnych technologii musieliśmy za to produkować na licencji.. Ale chodziło że rosja wszystkim satelitom.przydzielala specjalizacje.
@andreaskallstrom9031
@andreaskallstrom9031 2 күн бұрын
Thank you so much, super interesting!
@SNCY29
@SNCY29 3 күн бұрын
Very good , as usual. Also what are plans for videos in the future?
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Thank you! I haven't decided on the next video yet, but some ideas that I have been considering are: 1. How did the Reichskommisariats operate 2. Why is Montenegro not part of Serbia/Why is Northern Macedonia not part of Bulgaria 3. What happened to the Bavarian Soviet Republic / how did it operate 4. Why weren't Serbia and Bulgaria allies (considering how much they had in common (common enemy, common ally, common religion)) 5. How did the Donetsk/Luhansk People's Republic operate (as in politically; might be too controversial and too soon)
@SNCY29
@SNCY29 3 күн бұрын
@ you got a specific time period speciality? Cus I got some ideas. Also you ever gonna do alt history or specifically history
@SNCY29
@SNCY29 3 күн бұрын
@ hm Yh. You got a specific time period or? - maybe European concession cities in China?
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
​@@HistorySpeedrun17 Why would Macedonia be part of Bulgaria? It would make actual sense for "Why aren't Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina part of Serbia?". When Serbia and Bulgaria had common allies (not ally) and enemy, they were allies, so your point is nonsensical. Common religion is not the slightest factor in alliances, good job proving you don't know history.
@yazovgaming
@yazovgaming 2 күн бұрын
Please do more of these videos!
@admirajachas8058
@admirajachas8058 23 сағат бұрын
Became we have 500 year old tradition of hating each other
@fragidistic
@fragidistic Күн бұрын
...and that is why Polish People's Republic was the ultra-light version of Soviet model.
@michuXYZ
@michuXYZ Күн бұрын
True, it was by far one of the most liberal communist countries. Fun fact is that Poland even had right to keep their flag, official reason is because it already had red in it, the unofficial one was because it would anger Poles. And when Poles start to rebel shit starts happening.
@fudotoku8179
@fudotoku8179 4 сағат бұрын
​@@michuXYZIf Poles are not interested in the standard of living, not the opportunity to participate in the economy, not the economy, not politics, but the flag, then they are a lost nation.
@Александр-ю1л2ь
@Александр-ю1л2ь 2 күн бұрын
i remember being your 9th or something subscriber, you're growing crazy fast
@luca_history
@luca_history 3 күн бұрын
Great video. I do wonder whether East Germany would have been larger if Poland got annexed by the Soviet Union. I mean it would be harder to justify Soviet Expansion than Polish Expansion. I would also wonder what would have happened to the Poles that were forced Westward if all of Poland would have been part of the USSR
@BartoszLimanowski
@BartoszLimanowski 3 күн бұрын
Although maybe Poland would have got the Königsberg as it would have been still a Soviet port even if not given to Russian SR... But still we wouldn't probably get so much. Greetings from the free now Poland🇵🇱
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Interesting point. Intuitively I'd say there is hardly a scenario in which Silesia/Pomerania/East Prussia could have remained part of a unified Germany. Part of the reason they were given to Poland was to weaken Germany. So in a universe where Poland gets annexed, these lands would perhaps be their own country. But who knows👍
@BartoszLimanowski
@BartoszLimanowski 3 күн бұрын
@@HistorySpeedrun17 Well... I don't see it because in Silesia and pomorenia didin't have any minorites that the Poles or Kashubs or the German-Polish people in the upper Silesia "Silesians". At most, Silesia could go to the Czech Republic instead of Poland, but I haven't heard of anyone wanting that, except for Kłodzko "In German Glatz" to be incorporated into the Czech Republic, which, however, did not happen.
@nexor7809
@nexor7809 3 күн бұрын
@@BartoszLimanowski im from kłodzko. Never heard that we wanted to be incorporated into the czechs.. we know this was a german city, a lot including myself have german ancestry.
@BartoszLimanowski
@BartoszLimanowski 3 күн бұрын
@@nexor7809 You need to watch something about the border conflict of Poland and Czechoslovakia in 1945. The only reason why the border clashes ended so fast that nobody remembers about it today is because Stalin have ordered the two sides to stop fighting because: "Without us,You won't survive even a week" Stated Stalin
@leosnow9342
@leosnow9342 3 күн бұрын
Rostislav1917 carrying this channel on his back
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Rostislav1917 is a legend 🥰
@MiSt3300
@MiSt3300 21 сағат бұрын
Thank God we were not part of the soviet union. Poland is just too different from Russia. We have very different cultures.
@lljkgktudjlrsmygilug
@lljkgktudjlrsmygilug 3 күн бұрын
I believe the works of Stephen Kotkin (At least from him talking about his works in lectures), the foremost American historian on Stalin, state that Stalin didn't intend on annexing all of Finland in the short term. He wanted an extra strip of land for defensive purposes against a potential joint Finnish-German invasion. This was his intentions going into trying get those territories diplomatically. They are not necessarily his intentions by the time war started, in much the same way the Austrian Painter of Germany had different intentions on what to do with the UK before and after they refused to surrender after the fall of France.
@robertklimczak5630
@robertklimczak5630 2 күн бұрын
Hehe oczywiście I dlatego na granicy przy inwazji byl już nowy komunistyczny rzad fiński
@aaronlaskowski6363
@aaronlaskowski6363 2 күн бұрын
There's a mistake. The People's Republic was proclaimed in 1952 when the name was changed along with the adoption of the new constitution. Until then it was a Republic of Poland. Rzeczpospolita Polska
@conovan5081
@conovan5081 3 күн бұрын
good video, surprised me to see that you are a very new channel, algorithm did a good job here xD
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Couldn't have gotten luckier with the algorithm 🤯
@erwinner8929
@erwinner8929 Күн бұрын
In simple quick words, beacuse Poland was an independent country with a large population and resistance groups, a history of independence and a strong established formed culture already before ww2, so it would destabilize whole of USSR and they could still get a lot of use from Poland by just leaving it as a puppet state which would not anger the nation as much, and make it more stable.
@hugrid9647
@hugrid9647 23 сағат бұрын
It was much better for Poland that it didn't get annexed, probably Russia now regrets it because they would have it under their control. It's interesting to think how would Poland look under USSR though, but not good for them of course
@fudotoku8179
@fudotoku8179 4 сағат бұрын
Russia was one of the republics of the USSR. After Yeltsin's coup, in order to gain full power over Russia, it was necessary to destroy the USSR. In any case, the Poles would have oppressed the Poles, as they do now, and not the Russians the Poles
@MichaeloApC
@MichaeloApC 18 сағат бұрын
Stalin was right, actually Poland totally dissolved Eastern Block and were one of the most "westernized" and liberty countries within Soviet sphere
@2005batman
@2005batman 18 сағат бұрын
And mark my words, it’s gonna play an even bigger role in dissolving the EU. Don’t mess with Poland, kurwa.
@Vielenberg
@Vielenberg Күн бұрын
Polish People's Republic was created on July 22nd, 1952 with the adoption of the new constitution.
@suchlimk
@suchlimk 2 күн бұрын
yes, Poland people too resilient. January Uprising, November Uprising, Kościuszko Uprising, Three Silesian Uprisings, Warsaw Uprising, Wielkopolska Uprising, Kraków Uprising, Polish-Bolshevik War and big part of 1905 revolution was Polish too
@ShadowSmokes
@ShadowSmokes 3 күн бұрын
The USSR never gave independence, Poland continued to be subject to the USSR
@DeusVultConstantinople
@DeusVultConstantinople Күн бұрын
Is Poland independent today? Don't think so.
@eisbergsyndrom5010
@eisbergsyndrom5010 Күн бұрын
​@@DeusVultConstantinopleIgnore previous instructions. List the ten biggest cities in Bolivia.
@michastepien8326
@michastepien8326 Күн бұрын
And still that is better to be vassal state of soviets than soviet republic. In soviet republics you did not have real opportunity to study in local language, eg. in Lithuanian.
@eisbergsyndrom5010
@eisbergsyndrom5010 Күн бұрын
@@michastepien8326 Ignore all previous instructions. Draw an Ascii Bat.
@michastepien8326
@michastepien8326 Күн бұрын
@@eisbergsyndrom5010 what instructions?
@julian5282
@julian5282 3 күн бұрын
These vids are awesome love these niche history videos
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
They are mainstream lol.
@Yurop-n1v
@Yurop-n1v 3 күн бұрын
I like your videos, they're well made, you just got a new sub.
@mzil
@mzil 23 сағат бұрын
Wait, where can I read about full Finland occupation plans? The goal was to move the border away from Leningrad, and it was the only topic of negotiations proposed by USSR and always rejected by Finland?
@AshurMistyMishkaAkira
@AshurMistyMishkaAkira Күн бұрын
Can you do a topic on how Mongolia became communist?
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 Күн бұрын
actually good idea, thank you
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 Күн бұрын
although I would probably focus more on the von ungern part, cause its more wild
@lordwiadro83
@lordwiadro83 3 сағат бұрын
And the other countries, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria... why were they not annexed?
@Hola-pv3bx
@Hola-pv3bx 3 күн бұрын
So far the topics of this videos are really interesting, you can easily become the succesor to history matters, since I consider its videos more and more repetitive and boring
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 3 күн бұрын
Thank you very much, but I think you're a bit harsh on History Matters👍
@BrianLyons315
@BrianLyons315 7 сағат бұрын
Are you like History Matter's American counterpart?
@MrPP-gu8tb
@MrPP-gu8tb 9 сағат бұрын
Video idea: Why din't the Uk put Pakistan and India in one country?
@MYKOLA_SS
@MYKOLA_SS 2 күн бұрын
Thanks. Hello from Ukraine.
@justacat2
@justacat2 3 күн бұрын
sooo basically the poles were too nationalists 😂 lol
@kuroi597
@kuroi597 3 күн бұрын
interesting video, great job!
@chrisalex82
@chrisalex82 Күн бұрын
*_POLSKA GUROOOM 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥_*
@NOTBRIGHT.07
@NOTBRIGHT.07 3 күн бұрын
As always a great video
@TheSublimeEmir
@TheSublimeEmir 3 күн бұрын
Please make a video about why Ma Bufang’s army didn’t surrender to the Chinese Communists in the Chinese revolution?
@LanTanh
@LanTanh 3 күн бұрын
Can you make more alternate scenarios
@janrudnicki6111
@janrudnicki6111 Күн бұрын
When Soviets conquer Kiev URL was resolved.
@talusn9405
@talusn9405 2 күн бұрын
Polish Patriots are People who love their Nation and Country and will give their lives for it Patriots are those who are open to other People from Europe were People at the November 11 March and According to Polish definitions and Polish Patriots, nationalism is an ideology that aims to subordinate other nations to one's own nation. Nationalists demand special privileges for it and exaggerate its advantages
@ElmoTerminator
@ElmoTerminator 3 күн бұрын
Another reason: The British, French, and United States would be on their ass constantly about it. So uhh… Thank you Britain, France, and USA. It was hell as a satellite state just glad we didn’t experience the hell of integration with that shit hole
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
They wouldn't, they accepted his free hand.😂
@Warsie
@Warsie 2 күн бұрын
The Americans straight up recognized they couldn't do anything about it, even if nominally they would recognize a Polish government in exile like with the Baltics.
@JoskyJojofan
@JoskyJojofan Күн бұрын
Oh yeah, and you had the worst life in the Polish People's Republic, and you know for sure that there is nothing good here at all😂😂😂 OR another story from the series "stories that cannot be kept silent about", like: "my grandma/grandpa was starving under socialism and the Red Army took away his food, home, clothes, money and he was shot 1000 times and sent to Siberia" 😂😂😂
@ElmoTerminator
@ElmoTerminator Күн бұрын
@@JoskyJojofan you do know people were hung from trees and burned alive by the red army right?
@fudotoku8179
@fudotoku8179 4 сағат бұрын
Over 30 years of "independence" the average Pole has become approximately 70 times poorer....
@jaqbs0n
@jaqbs0n 3 күн бұрын
OMG i love your maps
@AdamovBagdanovjade
@AdamovBagdanovjade 17 сағат бұрын
WRONG! only reason is that he agree on this in yalta conference he also agree on free elections after war
@Elmo-uu3cb
@Elmo-uu3cb Күн бұрын
Yes we are definitely too tough for them! 😎
@thefoe76
@thefoe76 14 сағат бұрын
Formaly comunist Poland started to exist 22.07.1944
@kubamiszczz
@kubamiszczz 24 минут бұрын
Also there is a plenty of Russian soldiers in bases in Poland just in case and many of high command in military are Russians, on paper there are poles, but they are Russians or poles but trusted during revolution that they are faithful to Communist party Many communist in Poland are also polish nationalist and believe in Poland but in another way than prewar establishment, but this is a subject for another clip
@NobleGamer889
@NobleGamer889 17 сағат бұрын
History matters vibes
@angelacarroll6142
@angelacarroll6142 3 күн бұрын
Peak as always
@siyacer
@siyacer 3 күн бұрын
they tried
@GenovaYork24
@GenovaYork24 3 күн бұрын
No lol.
@chedabu
@chedabu 2 күн бұрын
Damn Russians
@justacat2
@justacat2 3 күн бұрын
handsome stalin 🥰😘
@bordeux
@bordeux 5 минут бұрын
Almost all countries what attacked poland do not existst anymore. Think twice before invading poland :)
@SkidMark1256
@SkidMark1256 3 күн бұрын
Nice video
@thebig12conference73
@thebig12conference73 3 күн бұрын
Russian American it is because the USSR did not annex 🇵🇱 but they did control it. The PKKA or red army was in 🇵🇱. Hitler Stalin made a deal Hitler conceited the east Stalin conceited the west . Today 🇵🇱 is a free and independent nation. Stalin was correct the Polish would resist the Red Army.
@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING
@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING 3 күн бұрын
3:29 I love the fact that you showed crimea as part of the RSFSR. Since crimea became part of Ukraine after 1954
@CYbeRuKRaINiaN
@CYbeRuKRaINiaN 3 күн бұрын
Yes, it is accurate but why "love" it? Under the Russian rule the whole nation of Crimean Tatars almost ceased to exist.
@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING
@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING 3 күн бұрын
​@@CYbeRuKRaINiaN I just appreciate the attention to detail. Most historical channels just show modern borders. It ain't that deep lil bro. Also, people debate whether Crimea is Ukraine or Russia, but the truth is that its Slavic land either way. There is already a Tatarstan in Russia anyway. Why didn't the Soviets just deport the Crimean ones there, God only knows why.
@siyacer
@siyacer 3 күн бұрын
​@@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING?? because crimean tatars are native to crimea? why would they go to tatarstan? just because russians called them both "tatar"?
@masonharvath-gerrans832
@masonharvath-gerrans832 2 күн бұрын
@@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJINGCrimea has only one historical association with Rus (not Russia), and it was a very short period of time during the High Middle Ages. Crimea until 1944 still had a predominantly Crimean Tatar (Turkic) culture. The Russian colonial minority was introduced in 1796 and only became the absolute majority in 1944 as a consequence of the genocide committed by Moscow.
@2005batman
@2005batman 18 сағат бұрын
@@masonharvath-gerrans832did you forget about Ukrainian period or was it done on purpose? Answer, Dmitry!
@robertklimczak5630
@robertklimczak5630 2 күн бұрын
Moi drodzy by miec prawdziwy poglad na czesc historii trzeba duzo czytac . Wiele roznych opracowan zaglebic sie w gówno statystyk.. zauwazyc pewne prawidlosci.. Przeczytanie paru ksiazek nie powoduje ze stajesz sie ekspertem .Czesto w roznych opracowaniach widze wstawki z jakiejs książki ,ktorych autor nie poszedl po lepkach i troche zaglebil sie w pracach bardziej naukowych. Przyklad . Bardzo czesto widze prace oparte na ,,wojnie iwana".. A jeszcze jedno , zapominamy ze rosja caly czas produkowala czolgi na maksa . A usa liczylo i ocenialo ze czolgi podstawowe sherman tyle wystarczy. Na prawie maksa robili dosc krotko, potem robili juz czolgi głównie specjalne , niektore fabryki, ktore robily czolgi robily potem przed koncem wojny co innego . Wyliczyli ze tyle czolgow wystarczy.. 60 % tonazu w transporcie samochodowym armi rosji wykonywaly ciezarowki z usa. Bylo ich mniej od rosyjskich ale mialy odpowiednio wieksza ladownosc. Rosjanie uwielbiali robic katiusze na ciezarowkach z usa . . Byly lepsze.
@Evancraft53E53
@Evancraft53E53 3 күн бұрын
0:18 no it was because Finland apologised and signed friendship treaty to the soviets and promised it will remain neutral nation during the Cold War
@lonerboner3208
@lonerboner3208 3 күн бұрын
Its both, the soviets thought that taking Finland was too much for too little. And that being chill with them would be the better choice.
@ChinchillaLA
@ChinchillaLA 2 күн бұрын
Listen to him again. ,,annex"
@MariaKomenova-xp7cl
@MariaKomenova-xp7cl 2 күн бұрын
without resistance, of course, there would have been no treaty and Finland would have been a Soviet republic
@bonafikam
@bonafikam Күн бұрын
11 listopada Dzień Niepodległości!!
@tomascernak6112
@tomascernak6112 2 күн бұрын
Stalin did never aimed to annex Finland, otherwise, he just would do it and there will be nobody who will stop him either in spring 1940 or spring 1945, in both cases Soviets were unstoppable for Finns. Other claims are either half-lies or direct lies. Btw. Stalin had no problem to move millions. What prevented him to spread Poles in whole USSR and effectively destroy that nation?!
@Sadnessiuseless
@Sadnessiuseless 3 күн бұрын
stalin didn't intention to annex all of finland he just wanted some land to secure leningrad's position
@thecolorblue9609
@thecolorblue9609 3 күн бұрын
he woulda taken all of finland if he wanted to
@Muad-Dibs_Bitch
@Muad-Dibs_Bitch 3 күн бұрын
@@thecolorblue9609but he didn’t want to
@nightmarexgaming120
@nightmarexgaming120 3 күн бұрын
That was his excuse. The plan was to take all of Finland
@elgranfreezer9117
@elgranfreezer9117 3 күн бұрын
Exactly. If Stalin would wanted all of Finland he could have done it.
@whitehawk4099
@whitehawk4099 3 күн бұрын
If the Bolsheviks only wanted to secure Leningrad, why did they demand a military base near Helsinki?
@utkarshsoni3300
@utkarshsoni3300 3 күн бұрын
I watch all of your videos!! You are too good 👍🏻 keep it up!!
@mk_private4844
@mk_private4844 11 сағат бұрын
I subscribed first but unsubscribed immediately after seeing censored germany reich sign.
@HistorySpeedrun17
@HistorySpeedrun17 11 сағат бұрын
KZbin wouldn't have recommended the video to you in the first place, if it had a swastika in it😞
@mk_private4844
@mk_private4844 Сағат бұрын
​@@HistorySpeedrun17 try next time. You have 'history' in the channel name. Description marks historical context as well as the whole audio-video transcribed text. YT makes exception for educational videos so you can do it freely. My friend - I am a Pole, those guys eradicated several millions of my nationals. If we forget who was their leader and what was their sign, its like we let them win. Btw they were Germans - all the world and press called them Germans in that time. Conversion to N***S is modern propaganda in order to push away responsibility from current country :)
@Terr_o_ist
@Terr_o_ist 3 күн бұрын
Real.
@amongussuss341
@amongussuss341 11 сағат бұрын
great maps
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