"Why Do I Want Them Dead?" (Classic WoW Dungeon Lore)

[@PlatinumWoW]

Would you guys like to see a part 2 of this series? Lore is something that is pretty fun to make a video about. Might do it again in the future.

[@eleschami]

it's awesome!

[@theeliteduck]

Absolutely do a part two! Loved the video

[@namelessnpc6689]

YES! PLEASE! I DEMAND PART 2

[@loganwood9308]

yeah for sure, just do a video for each expansion, it'll get a lot of attention for sure, keep it up mate

[@karlaefem9549]

Would love to learn more about wow lore!

[@eaglebach3154]

“Why am I here?” Because I got baited by that Whitemane picture

[@JL.T.]

Thickmane

[@papalote1]

Came for this answer...was not dissapointed...

[@Kurotaisa]

@@alexandergreene461 i mean, in retail she became a death knight and chilled out. So, bonus?

[@kungfuvoodoo9889]

She can certainly make my "champion" arise

[@CathrineMacNiel]

true, but where is the source?

[@wastehazey6468]

I don't "kill" Quillboars. I avenge Mankrik's wife.

[@davidthompson6099]

Don't stop, bereavin'...

[@Shredow2]

Killing all of those quillboars wasn't genocide. It was pesticide.

[@Lotuswalker]

WAIT !! You found Mankiriks Wife ????? Where was she?

[@wastehazey6468]

@@Lotuswalker Stonetalon.

[@mattias1486]

@@Lotuswalker Silithus, it's a short walk don't worry about it.

[@Colaschnittchen]

you forgot that onyxia was the one responsible for not giving van cleave the gold for rebuilding sw

[@swagpatriot696]

but why ?

[@Colaschnittchen]

She wanted to spread chaos and misstrust within the Alliance, so that she could smash them easier later. Funfact: her brother neferian (or was it deathwing?) tried that too when the orks first invaded azeroth and he failed as well.

[@LeoLeonardotheThird1]

Cola Schnitte deathwing is her father

[@Colaschnittchen]

@@LeoLeonardotheThird1 i know i just wasnt sure if nefarian or deathwing tried that

[@Boekemannetje]

@@LeoLeonardotheThird1 Neltharion rather :P

[@XL1813]

Imagine killing your own father just to simp for Sally Thickmane. "At your side M'lady"

[@LB-lb7pm]

hahahaha

[@Letgoit2]

He is the true Simp King

[@BlazeTube626]

Nathanos Blightcaller says hello

[@Shredow2]

To be fair, even years later Sally remembers and misses Mograine, so chances are he was actually getting some.

[@jackychen6261]

@@Shredow2 couldve been in a childhood friend manner too. Mograine and Whitemane grew up together in Southshore.

[@Hunk_Streams]

thumbnail: ingame models whitemane: but im hot

[@HalikBun]

I like how they're all shots of in-game models except for her. If they were all artwork, or all models, I wouldn't have clicked here. I didn't come here to watch the video, but to see if there was a comment about this discrepancy. Glad to see that specific comment was made. Okay, bye now.

[@ItsStevenDuh]

Zachary Heiner ?

[@hilnnerfarias913]

The only thing I've dreamed in mounting during all this years was Sally Whitemane.

[@DylanJo123]

Same

[@robertAnthonyColon]

Good news! Well Sally has a 7 inch dick. You and those 87 upvotes can mount her all you want. GG lol

[@sirnotawesome]

Robert Colo'n I was hoping it would be 8 tbh

[@robertAnthonyColon]

@@sirnotawesome idk! Since this is fantasy world it's prob 12inch

[@scrumpy2004]

@ Nothing whatsoever.

[@Mcspazatron]

I think the real question is where did all these people get such PHAT LOOT.

[@FatalHog]

Eh, at least for whitemane, its probably stuffee in her pants

[@presochoclo6982]

@@FatalHog what pants

[@FatalHog]

@@presochoclo6982 Good point

[@wardenm]

To this day, VanCleef remains my favorite WoW villain. Morally gray, has genuine motivations and sense of responsibility for his men.

[@davidnilsson7733]

Side note: the reason the Alliance didn't pay the stonemasons was that Lady Prestor (aka Onyxia) manipulated the nobles. She wanted dissonance, PRESTO you have the Defias

[@MetaL556]

Presto(r)!

[@bananerna2601]

Pesto* dude learn the right word

[@joaopadua7134]

Deadmines: in game mob Gnormegan: in game mob Scarlett monestary: rule 34

[@kolosmenus]

2:30 The Stonemasons, after being refused their pay, started huge riots in Stormwind which resulted in Anduin's mom death. So the whole situation with Defias Brotherhood is entirely the stormwind nobles fault, but Defias turned to banditry in order to bring the entire city down. So yeah, while their anger is entirely justifiable, it's not something you can let them do.

[@NNoitraa]

Anduin's Mom was the main support to defias cause. Her assassination was probably an onyxia's move

[@lordfrostwind3151]

Well that and all the locals getting murdered in Westfall, and the fact they're trying to rebuild a horde dreadnought to sail into Stormwind and level the city. Van Cleef, understandable motives, kind of an asshole

[@kolosmenus]

@@NNoitraa iirc her death was caused by a random thrown stone. I think the rioters killing their biggest supporter like that would just add to the tragedy of this situation

[@nseven1117]

whoever threw that stone must've had a high crit chance to be able to one shot with with that tiny thing

[@mancamiatipoola]

Also, it's much cheaper to pay a band of 5 silly mercs to go assassinate the leader of the Defias than to actually pay the bill of a small army of architects and builders that actually helped rebuild your city after a devastating war. You know, just your usual politician problem solving.

[@kulrigalestout]

So, about that Deadmines thing; Spoiler alert too, I guess, since this isn't made clear at all anymore. Back before Varian returned to the throne, Anduin was technically king. But since he was like five years old or something, everyone was like "hey, maybe a five year old can't understand how taxes and stuff work. we should have a regent until he learns how to count", and so they did. The regent had some advisers, but one in particular was a damn fine raven-haired babe of the highest order with a temper as hot as dat ass. Turns out, she's a black dragon whose real name is Onyxia. You might remember her name, there's a meme about her giving epic head. Anyway, the thing about black dragons is that they're all evil and manipulative spawns of Deathwing. They love watching "mortals" like humans toil and suffer, and will on occasion even hop into a humanoid form they happen to like to inspire some havoc. She's the one who got the nobles together, and said "instead of paying the masons, let's not". Everyone was too busy staring at her cleavage to care whether it was right or wrong, except for the queen. The queen knew a thot when she saw one and wasn't hypnotized by that black dragon booty, so Onyxia manipulated events to have her killed. Just think, if it weren't for Onyxia we might have had a High Queen of the Alliance, and Varian would have had a nagging wife instead of a nagging Jaina telling him to be nice. So yeah, we go and kill the people who rebuilt our capital city because they rioted because an evil dragon convinced easily brainwashed nobles to not even sign an I.O.U. And since the nobles are the ones giving orders, and Stoutmantle only really cares about stabilizing Westfall and not who's right or wrong, we go kill the best daddy in the world and cut off his head while a little girl watches. Eventually some of the more diligent nobles recognize Onyxia for the thot dragon she is and unmask her, but that's a story for an attunement quest for a raid. As for why the Defias Brotherhood is still around... well, the Stormwind nobility still refused to pay the masons after Onyxia's head was mounted on a pike. Even after the truth was revealed, each side is too proud to admit any wrongdoing and still refuses to see eye to eye. Oh, and Vanessa is (understandably) super pissed about what they did to her daddy and organized a new Defias to take revenge.

[@evilcam]

Written in the same spirit as was the video, all fratire style. This is an extremely under rated comment. Nicely done man.

[@Dirkadirky]

This comment needs more likes

[@wantsomecandy9531]

i laughed so hard at the epic head joke that im feeling bad now

[@iceman3317]

He was 10.

[@fckihate69jokes]

huh, neltharion was not an evil being. as far as i remember he was the Strongest of the aspect before, and just before succumbing to old god corruption, he turned evil.

[@lukapetric1931]

this is the best video about dungeon lore i've ever fucking seen in my life,if there is no part 2 ima be mad af

[@madudepeter100]

K taliyah chill, we're all mad about season 10.

[@andregon4366]

Part 2 or riot

[@EclipseLovesMe]

jep

[@Micras08]

Rito plx!

[@Fallenbrave]

It was a brilliant video again Platinum but the Arugal section was incorrect. Arugal brought the Worgen from the Emerald Dream to fight the Scourge but didn't realise how feral they were, so when they infected the citizens of Pyrewood Village he went mad with grief and started treating the Worgen like his children, It's why they are called "Son of Arugal" What you explained in the video was the post Cataclysm Silverpine story where members of the Gilnean Worgen offered Dalaran and Hillsbrad refugees Worgen blood to avoid becomming Forsaken as Sylvannas has Val'kyr spreading the curse at that point.

[@giamiabia]

As someone who only started playing in Legion I am OBSESSED with your "Why Do I Want Them dead?" series. I love how you're able to give a lot of lore while making it really fun and entertaining. Also your editing is top tier.

[@cdoremus99]

That stop resisting had me dying

[@booradley6832]

It hits a little fucking close to home now.

[@krusokat]

@@booradley6832 drugged up brown man couldn't get air and died :((((

[@capitaldcolon1795]

People still salty about that professional criminal drug abuser from Minneapolis? But yeah, the "stop resisting" part got me aswell haha.

[@lemiewinks]

The defias started a riot that accidentally killed tiffin wrynn, queen of Stormwind... and pretty sure it was Onyxia who was behind not giving the gold to the stone masons.

[@capitaldcolon1795]

Was Tiffin hot tho?

[@andresartavia5956]

"Why am i doing this dungeon" has always been one of the things I think about and never really got a clear answer. Thanks for this video! Keep doing them ☺️

[@jamesdunn-asselin1149]

Looks like we got a high profile Defias sympathizer here fellas, GET HIS LOOT!

[@heronofalexandria91]

VanCleef did nothing wrong!

[@bogonos2096]

Of course he didn't

[@chodex1]

Initially not, but under his leadership the, mostly innocent, people of Westfall were robbed, kindapped, killed, driven off their land etc. So in the end VanCleef became even worse than those filthy nobles he so hated.

[@gigiwan3335]

He was against the government of stormwind

[@JL.T.]

@@chodex1 wait. He is actually lenin?

[@dumaskhan]

and by extention, neither did his daughter.

[@bladestorm337]

Well simple every single one of them as commited tax evasion. Think about it everyone in those dungeons drop money because they didn't pay their taxes. We are not adventurer, we are tax collector and guess who get all this money? That right, our class trainer making them the richest people in wow.

[@MasterLagoz]

Pretty sure the richest npcs are the repair vendors in capital cities.

[@haraldtopfer5732]

@@MasterLagoz not so sure since you'll usually sell them all your trash as well.

[@tobyclain9467]

And don’t forget the Griffin masters whenever we travel.

[@chipskylark5500]

Amazing headcanon

[@faselblaDer3te]

Would make for a nice RP guild name: "The Tax Collectors" And everytime you enter a dungeon, everyone would be like "Who can we talk to concerning tax payments? Don't make us use our spells and weapons again!"

[@hackhenk]

1:55 You forgot to mention that the ship The Defias is building is designed to attack Stormwind. The deadmines is also a factory for producing more such boats, and shutting that down clearly is in the interest of the Alliance. Horde, on the other hand.....

[@ChildOfStars777]

Finally !!!! i already thought nobody'd mention it

[@evanlarson2726]

on the other hand, horde gets to kill some renegades that turn traitor..... wait thats cata.... fuck why do the horde go to deadmines?

[@mking1982098]

How would that work? Isn't Stormwind landlocked? (I mean it is beside the coast, but the coast is blocked off by a large mountain range.

[@tylerarnold1221]

I'd like a full series. Ending with raids of course.

[@beastmaster0934]

5:51 You could say it’s...KRAUL-ing with Quillboar.

[@masonnichols9754]

So as a massive lore fan I love these these but the humor and animation you put in them makes your work next level.

[@digisalamander2726]

“ they have loot and I want it” that all the reason I need when going into a raid

[@lily_astral]

I usually rp my characters as just straight up mercenaries. "Yadda yadda gimmie loot", fits every situation.

[@nicholasstanziale113]

I despise the fact that I have to say this, but in before Asmon. Definitely want to see a part 2. You should also do one on raids.

[@TwiejkVR]

3:45 so this is where it all began...... mmmmm

[@PhilTruthborne]

I really like this! Lore is one of my favorite aspects which makes the warcraft universe so interesting and getting a basic rundown of stuff i never looked up is really nice~

[@michaelkreis9975]

The animations and commentary were wildly entertaining! Please do a part 2!

[@JetSunstrider]

"Hey..." "Yeah?" "Have you ever wondered why were here?"

[@Rex_The_Mouse]

8:28 replaying this knowing how intense the lore gets ingame is very satisfying to hear in like a minute of explanation

[@Yellowtoxin]

okay im liking this series already! Keep it coming

[@nerdbrain396]

I like how it has been over 15 years and the alliance/nobles of stormwind have still yet to pay any reparations or compensations to the defias

[@nikoscastellanos3323]

gang gang first homie, ill use this opportunity to tell you Platinum that i love your content and I will continue to watch throughout all of your classic content thanks for making videos.

[@bluesilkdesigns]

What fucked me up lately is that after 15 years I just realized most mobs run away in fear :( and then I kill them

[@DanTKD87]

Okay I was thinking "am I the bad guy?" While doing deadmines. I guess I am. Maybe I'll start a clan Defias Lives Matter.

[@ReganousTheGrey]

Excellent video my BROTHER! Please continue with part 2, and on!

[@animalmother5988]

7:59 Hahahahahahaha, awesome man! You just got yourself a new sub.

[@kyerinn]

Same. I had to screenshot that. 😂

[@lordkiljaeden3887]

That was amazing, would love to see part 2 most definitely!

[@CheezeSailor]

The stonemason riot also killed the wife of some strmwind king...

[@NNoitraa]

No they did not. Varyan's wife was the most important person that was supporting their cause

[@Darkgaming_ttv]

Italo Meluzzi actually they did by mistake , they threw a rock and it hit her head , it’s in comics , yes she was all for paying them, but she got caught in crossfire (I think) or they actually went for her , something like that

[@insanemang9983]

Out of all the dungeons deadmines is the only one to make me feel bad about completing

[@Heron11177]

Even with dungeon journal it's not that clear why we are raising those dungeons Nice video We want more!!

[@thatrealycoolguy]

It probably doesn’t matter, but the Shadowfang keep lore was retconned to be that he summoned the worgen to protect Gilneas

[@uioup7453]

I like how you explained me 100% more lore than anyone even in a lazy summary...

[@saffronic3026]

PC_ rules Hello Everyone

[@Oberjin]

This is actully something ive been wondering about, really nice that you are doing a video about it! +1

[@Toonheads5000]

I know you did a little on Scarlet Monastary but I would love to see a more in depth video about their lore

[@V0iDWALK3R_]

I need the second part! Thanks for the amazing video Platinum, the Stockades part was hilarious lol

[@SirNarax]

What dungeon drops the item "PHAT LOOT" I would like to get that for my tauren warrior.

[@seleuf]

Yay! There's a part 2!

[@achabotte]

WC was one of my favorite dungeons. Actually all the OG dungeons were great because there was lore attached to them, and outside quests tied into them with unique rewards and questlines... Nowadays they are just grindfests

[@Jimmydeans]

In game screen shot, In game screen shot, In game screen shot, super erotic art work.

[@0d3X]

I dont think I can ever enter The Stockades in good concience

[@DIEGhostfish]

They murdered a 16 year old assistant guard just for telling them to take off their bandanas. Kill em all.

[@jacobring7274]

Many of the convicts SHOULD have been put to death promptly for heinous crimes that they committed. They were not only because of corruption stemming from Onyxia (Lady Prestor), and were held there to create a "powder keg" scenario in the heart of the city.

[@DIEGhostfish]

@@jacobring7274 I do wonder why she'd spare a Dark Iron given they were at war with her Brother at the time. Maybe to hypnotize and send back as a spy?

[@Mduffy-yo6rb]

Edwin Vancleef is actually one of the most tragic story if you think about it. Ultimately, it’s revealed later on WoW that Onyxia was behind manipulating the nobles to not pay the stonemasons and lead to the uproar. It really makes you look back to deadmines when you learn that and go “…”. It’s expertly done and really leads to a satisfying conclusion to the raid. Onyxia is beheaded and the sins of the past are at least brought to redemption.

[@Immagonko]

2:36 get your lore straight They were basically robbing and killing civilians of the Westfall, plus you totally forgot that it all was Onyxia's plan

[@shrekofrivia6821]

Well cant blame em it all started with onyxia

[@DylanJo123]

@@shrekofrivia6821 Did onyxia force them to rob and slaughter civilians?

[@shrekofrivia6821]

@@DylanJo123 she dont.and the nobles dont give af about them do they just had to start robbing people

[@DylanJo123]

@@shrekofrivia6821 Doesnt justify it. Not only that but the brotherhood also murdered innocents, is that ok just because they got cheated?

[@shrekofrivia6821]

@@DylanJo123 welp that is your opinion

[@landonmarek7524]

I didn't need to see the truth behind Wailing Caverns. Now I'll never sleep.

[@tobyclain9467]

7:08 The shirtless dude on the right. Is that even part of the Holy knight sect dress code?

[@dinislopes9432]

Thank you so much for these series of videos! Since people rush all dungeons now, it's good getting to learn the lore. Plus in a fun way. 🙂

[@ffarkasm]

I think from the 5 man dungeons Zul'farrak is the only dungeon in which we are the evil guys because the native trolls are just living there and we really are the evil, treasure-hungry invaders in this case. Strange as it sounds but the situation is somewhat similar with the Molten Core. Those fire elementals just doing fire elemental things there. Though they enslaved the Dark Iron dwarves, they aren't a direct threat to the world, there is no evidence that they are planning some sort of invasion, they are only at war with the Blackrock orcs and black dragons who are our enemies as well. No wonder at the summoning of Ragnaros Majordomo Executus says "These mortal infidels, my lord! They have invaded your sanctum and seek to steal your secrets!" The fire elementals are evil, yes but really we are the invaders here without any real provocation. It was only Moira Thaurissan (neé Bronzebeard)'s propaganda to exterminate the fire elementals because she wanted to liberate the Dark Iron dwarves after his husband Dagran Thaurissan was assassinated.

[@Ashannon888]

The Ferraki trolls were planning on invading the rest of the Tanaris region and beyond. (See the Chief's dialogue when you fight him) so you shut that nonsense down before he starts. Also, Ragnaros wants to burn the world. There is no defending him.

[@ffarkasm]

@@Ashannon888 "these deserts be mine!"?

[@VarangianBodyguard]

Such a short video for so much lore the dungeons have.For sure make a series like video covering each dungeon separately :D Talk about the lore,the bosses,the loot etc etc :)

[@WormyMaster]

Darion Mograine's Stand: 「 ZA ASHUBURINGER 」

[@SamTheCrazyOne]

I prefer these over lengthy lore sessions. Please, make part 2!

[@Icosiol]

😂😂😂 Dude you had me dying with the “THAT’S RACIST” part!

[@Pt-42]

First of all, your videos are really good. Great mix of humor and WoW Lore. Second, please, please do the Scarlet Crusade lore. Third, would you consider 90 minute documentary on Blackrock Mountain as well?

[@Lukasta1]

Dude, i dont even play wow, but I love your content

[@faselblaDer3te]

Yooooo Plat, if you're still planning to do that full video on the Scarlet Crusade, I would appreciate that!

[@toogee1850]

"AKA Emo Boars" lol I love this channel.

[@RiP67632]

That "Stop resisting" part while choking that guy... reaaaally aged like milk.

[@Maltesfilm]

Wine*

[@YahoeyV22]

There’s a bit more the VC than that After the nobles didn’t pay them the defuse tried to sac the city and the king’s wife ended up dying in the riot they are making that big boat to destroy stormwind

[@Balordemom]

Please man, do part 2! That was an awesome video!

[@ricijs2000]

actually i do the dungeons for my deep dark fantasies

[@xalian17]

Dude....keep it up and do more vids like this! Hell extend them out as much as possible. Shit was legit good.

[@kevinjordan7282]

Not enough thumbs to express how much you need to do more.

[@guillaumeramey]

You should do a video per dungeon, so much stories to tell !

[@kingoliever1]

hey don´t be racist against people of death

[@ConnerMacKenzie]

"STOP RESISTING" Man that fucking kills me

[@xylisisvarlett3734]

Arugal: step 4: profit UwU 😂😂😂😂

[@levferno483]

Classic WoW bring back so many memories, the diversity of enemies and the stories they have are awesome.

[@puresoulbliss9635]

Alliance are the baddies you can clearly see here.

[@wowgmplayer]

"Stop resisting" way too accurate xd

[@Mikeyboyx12]

I really want another one of these / one for the raids. This is really good work

[@Yannis1a]

About Shadowfang Keep, the Forsaken couldn’t spread the curse of undead until cataclysm, it was the Scourge that was doing that, not the Forsaken

[@lydianelson2658]

This was an awesome video, I often wondered what my motivation was in the scarlet monastery. Also, man I wanna join the defias!

[@MichaelBecx]

This was absolutely wonderful! Thank you so much for your amazing videos!!!

[@tek512]

People stopped wanting Whitemane dead the second the fanart started.

[@takco2596]

Would love a part 2, also more in depth lore vids for raids maybe

[@FabbrizioPlays]

3:45 hits different in 2020.

[@texdillinger6173]

I'm pretty sure Arugal didn't just "turn people to worgen" but he summoned them. Worgen were originally night elves or something like that.

[@kamrongatlin3095]

Hell yea give us part 2! And maybe end it with longer videos about each raid.

[@xis7296]

I had no idea Thighmane's name is Sally. Thanks for the video, good stuff.

[@mewpsy1000]

Wow dude, what a great topic, and perfectly executed!

[@MrThree15]

Loved this! Thank you. All your content is magic

[@1Piecer]

I think you should go by each expansion along with Raids at the end. A great video as usual.

[@rms2400]

This was a very informative/funny video. PLZ do a Pt. 2!! (I’m also very down for a Burning Crusade Dungeon series)

[@nowheredan27]

Ravager, Big Bad Pauldrons, Blackstone Ring...

[@rafaeldornellesdacruz7177]

Awesome! Would love to see part 2. Cheers!

[@cavl894]

I love the razorfen dungeons and scarlet monastery, I want a scarlet crusade cleric robe and mitre

[@Luke-td2mm]

I always found it funny that the villians of wow always have all the races working together, yet here we are after fighting off world-ending threats still trying to fight each other