Why Do Turkey and Greece Hate Each Other

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[@erenwelch435]

As a Turk, I love Greek people, culture and cuisine. Being from the southwest, our cuisine and culture overlaps a lot

[@oreszteszpaciatzisz435]

As as a Greek person I love Turkish people. It is all manufactured, and the only people to blame are the politicians. Greece and Turkey should be allies as we will have common interests in the not so far future. Hopefully it will happen.

[@paulosxelikogiannhs6469]

I'm from Greece and you are a brother from another mother in my eyes I hope you are well.

[@Toshiro_Mifune]

ok shut up you guys will make me cry, now i want some rose flavored lokum. we love you too, it's sad we are powerless and let others command our will.

[@ferred3056]

The problem here is that politics control us in school like your books I saw a lot of fake things Now we don't have lied in our history but we showed some disrespect of your disrespect in the history book of the 6th grade in the lesson «Greece under the Turks»

[@user-tu8oh1cq2g]

As a Greek I've been to Turkiye 3 times and always felt at home and at ease, something that didn't happen in other European countries I visited and these countries don't even supposedly "hate" us lol. This whole conflict is totally made up, the people on both sides are really chill and friendly with each-other and do visit regularly. Our food is mostly the same, especially on Turkiye's west coast and many traditions too. We still love you guys and praying for peace and unity!

[@thenorthkoreanwifier2075]

Spicy? Absolutely, though not as spicy as the Balkans can be. Like Kosovo or all of the war crimes that happened during the downfall of Yugoslavia.

[@DavidMarkovic646]

Yea like other countries didnt do war crimes just serbia😒

[@thenorthkoreanwifier2075]

@@DavidMarkovic646 oh no, several did and still do.

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

@@DavidMarkovic646 bruh, that's not what they mean, serbia is just the Poster-child for war crimes, but the Balkans is just varrying degree of evilness at any given moment when it comes to cruelty and war crimes.

[@pixie7349]

Otto von Bismarck knew the balkans were going to be up to some atrocities back in 1888😂 “One day the great European War will come out of some damned foolish thing in the Balkans.”

[@colonelarmfeldt8572]

@@dimitriosdrossidis9633 Even though Serbia is well known for war crimes due to the Bosnian War, I'd say Turkey (Armenian and Pontic Genocides) and Croatia (Serbian Genocide) did a lot worse.

[@taylan7094]

I love Greeks as a Turk. I hope we, as both sides learn to separate politics from people one day.

[@Hioloi]

Greeks will never love you no matter how much you brown-nose them.

[@taylan7094]

​@@Hioloi I don't give a fuck about what you think, I had several Greek friends and they were all cool people. Same with almost everyone I met in Greece.

[@mrgreek7221]

Cmon dude... 50/100 at least of Turks dreaming a new era of ottoman empire again... And those word's in KZbin isn't strange.. We come one night Athens will be Turkish city Greek islands too. So even you trying save it we don't bite I can trust a snake but never a turk

[@taylan7094]

​@@mrgreek7221 What? %50? Trust me we don't give a damn about Greek soil. We have much important problems to deal with such as economy, refugees or getting rid of Erdoğan. Your problem has nothing to do with Turkey but Erdoğan. He knows the upcoming election will be hard for him this time so he needs these sweet sweet votes from his ultra-nationalistic voters, thus his threats to Greece. It's all about words. If you seriously think at least %50 of Turks are lusting over Greek soil, you are as brain dead and delusional as Erdoğan followers my friend.

[@mrgreek7221]

@@taylan7094 im not blind.. i watch every Turkish comments from Turkish sites here about Greece and i can say only your comment was peaceful. The others was like i said.. So yes i believe it.. erdogan not win elections without take votes.. if you know what i mean??

[@omonadikos]

The map in 7:45 is wrong. The Lesbos island is Greek. Be carefully with Turkish maps…

[@mariakatopodi8131]

Exactly!! As historian maps flying around here and there addressing people to their majority don't really know much about what is true and what not can be dangerous and misleading!

[@henryaybaz7409]

Turkish Altim Islands under Greek occupation.

[@SteliosE92]

@@henryaybaz7409 under greek occupation only for the last 4000 years 🤡

[@henryaybaz7409]

@@SteliosE92 Since Balkan wars, isn't it?

[@SteliosE92]

@@henryaybaz7409 lesbos in particular has archaelogical evidence of greek presence since 1000BC. Thats continuous greek presence for 3000 years now.

[@aliencdh7541]

love your content! your channel is currently my favorite history channel on youtube, so I'd like to suggest the topic of moldova and transnistria, which is something many people aren't really aware of

[@lordsiomai]

Isn't that the region that wants to join Russia?

[@MastemaJack]

@S I O M A I from what I can remember, Moldova has always wanted independence. I think, could be wrong, they fought to not be apart of Russia at one point in time. Again I could be wrong and hope someone can confirm.

[@aliencdh7541]

@@lordsiomai on the contrary. its population is primarily romanian speaking, and romania has been trying to obtain a reunification, but that's not possible due to political pressure from russia

[@lordsiomai]

@@aliencdh7541 i mean doesn't transnistria want to be part of russian again? forgive me if I'm mistaken Also, moldovans are also romanians? damn that's so cool. I never knew that. thank you!

[@aliencdh7541]

@@lordsiomai transistria is only separate due to a large presence of soviet armament that's still there. technically, it's the last member of the soviet union afaik

[@redofdeathGR]

Thanks so much for this! Great narrative and pretty unbiased! Keep it up!

[@JediMasterEzio]

This is a very intelligent and insightful young man. I'm a new viewer and subscriber, and I really enjoy your takes on history. Entertaining and educational. Keep up the great work! We need more history and science communicators out here!

[@_Its_Ya_Boy]

I agree, we do need more

[@rajulislam4687]

Love this channel I find it very educational on many interesting topics of history well done Stakui and thank you for teaching us

[@jameszawislak436]

Really liked this. A super fascinating also potentially tragic piece of history

[@binbiwashere8739]

Thanks you for the good video ! Another idea can be the rivalry between China and Japan, for old History, or US/Russia for more recent time.

[@alperylmaz9518]

1st time after so long, a video which is way more objective. Thanks for that

[@keremgurman6926]

Very well explained. Thanks.

[@icantthinkausername1136]

During the imia crisis in 1996 the greek and turkish armies almost clashed on those two uninhabited rocks. turkish special forces landed on the east island meanwhile a greek helicopter was flying around and it mysteriously crashed and the crew of 3 men died, nobody knows still how it crashed, some say it was because of bad weather, some say it was a malfunction while others say the turks shot it down

[@arisdelis1]

The Greek Military Helicopter after identifying Turkish Soldiers on Imia, was shot down by Turkish troops...the 3 bodies of Greek Soldiers aboard were later recovered. The chopper was then recovered and dumped further out in the Aegean, no investigation or analysis....cover-up To hush up any witnesses the Turkish commandos " all disappeared " and mysteriously passed away in Turkey....even to this day the Greek Govt refuses to recover the chopper and investigate.......

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

​@@arisdelis1honestly...neither country don't know. To this day 😅

[@imma3knee]

I don't remember when I subbed, but aparently I'm subbed to this channel.

[@williammayfield1207]

Another great video

[@Confedyank]

Howdy my dude, & Happy New years

[@panayotisdamianakis3658]

That was pretty informative and unbiased. Thank you 👍🏼

[@georgios_5342]

Overall I'd say not but oh well

[@thehistorical5928]

Hey could you do a video on repeating crossbows and why they were replaced by guns?

[@krxx4808]

Great video'

[@strassboom2612]

Came for the goatse-looking thumbnail, stayed for the history! Keep up the good work!

[@garretglick299]

I watched this video while I looked up and had a conversation about if hooters or Maid Cafes opened up first. Hooters opened first in 1983 and the first commercial Cosplay restaurant, which is the genre that a maid cafe is in, didn’t open until 1999 and the first Maid Café didn’t open until 2001

[@kragxciv2794]

very interesting, thank you for this insightful knowledge. i love you

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

I have an idea for you: a series called Flashpoints. Basically, it goes over areas where conflicts are likely to begin in the future and the historical and/or present day aspects of why there's conflict to begin with.

[@MastemaJack]

I like that idea a lot. It's a great one. For me, that's why I love to learn about history. You can only understand why things are the way they are if you understand history.

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

@@MastemaJack I believe that too. Gotta know where you came from to know where you're going and how to choose another path if needed.

[@MastemaJack]

@MetaSynForYourSoul people will complain about something and I tell them why it's like that. Then they act like I'm some kind of a**hole.

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

@@MastemaJack yeah I know what you mean.

[@anastasiabutton]

I've been to Greece, Turkey, and Cyprus (including the North Turkish area) for university and long-term travels. Part of my time in the areas was living in an apartment on the border of the Green Zone in Cyprus - that was a whole experience in itself. As a non-citizen of these areas, I've heard from all sides and from many generations of people living in city centers and some rural. It's a complex issue, for sure, and all of them hate the idea that they are being divided because of their leaders who cannot find non-confrontational solutions. I hope I get to see a deep friendship being built between these states within my lifetime rather than tension or potential militant action.

[@mortache]

The common people speak in such way because they can't directly control or profit from such situations. Put any of them in a position of power and they will be just as opportunistic and ruthless

[@anastasiabutton]

@@bastiat4855 All true. To clarify, I was speaking of the complexity of the long-standing history of Turkey and Greece. Cyprus is pretty self-explanatory as a land-grab move. Cyprus is the more modern example of many in history that Turkey and Greece have had conflict, mostly governmental.

[@mortache]

@bastiat Greeks "stole" that land in the first place lol. Everything is settled with violence. Mount up or sit down

[@alpertunga6792]

@bastiat 'The Turks took the Anatolian lands from the Greeks 1000 years ago' This is true. However, the Greeks stole from the Hittites, the real owners of Anatolia, 2000 years ago.

[@angelb.823]

@@alpertunga6792 Hittites were living in the vast reaches of eastern Anatolia, where no Greek settlement was found or established. Also, also, they were basically extinct during the Achaemenian (Persian) rule in Anatolia, centuries before Alexander would begin his campaign against the Persians. If you want to blame someone for ownership, blame the Iranians/Persians by that logic. Anatolia, like the Middle East, was a hodge podge for power grab between neighboring people (Hittites, Assyrians, Persians, etc.) They was no clear indication whether Anatolia could have been the ethno-state for these people, since they have been conquered by others (including Persians). Only the Greek (and probably the Armenian as well) settlements from the coasts of Anatolia could be considered as living indication that people from Antiquity were still remaining in Anatolia, at least before the Greek genocide and the population exchange.

[@lordsnow4029]

Love this content 🤩

[@giannism1371]

One more thing about the Paris peace agreement regarding the Dodecanese is that everyone seems to forget that TURKEY IS NOT PART OF IT. Literally, this treaty was signed between the allies (including Greece) and Italy. NOT TURKEY. Therefore Turkey as a third party does not have the legal right to call upon the treaty. The only country that can do that is Italy and they don't seem to give a fuck.

[@henryaybaz7409]

If you want a war bring it on, Turks go to war like how they go to wedding.

[@giannism1371]

@@henryaybaz7409 haha of course the 50 year old man from Turkey wishes for war. He's not gonna fight in it anyways. Hey pops let me tell you something: No one wishes for war (other than you apparently). The fact that your country doesn't understand that not signing a treaty makes it impossible for it to call upon it makes you the aggressor. Not Greece

[@henryaybaz7409]

@@giannism1371 Your actions and your words are claiming two different things. What makes you think Turks wants to give up an inch of soil or drop of water? You are changing the status quo to your favor. What makes you think the others will go silent? Do you honestly thing anyone in Turkey will agree with your claims except for PKK terrorists?

[@giannism1371]

@@henryaybaz7409 so you are saying that we (Greece) are taking something (soil or water) from you (Turkey). Tell me please what exactly is that already belongs to you and we are claiming it. Because last time I checked, you are the ones claiming a number of our islands, islands on which Greeks are living on for centuries. On the other side the only thing we are claiming is territorial waters that under the law of the sea (which you haven't signed by the way but that doesn't seem to bother you when talking about the Paris treaty) we are entitled to. And as it stands today, the part of the sea we are claiming is not even Turkish. It's international waters. So please enlighten me: which part of your soil or water are we claiming?

[@henryaybaz7409]

@@giannism1371 On the Islands that you have done ethnic cleansing. Islets that are not giving to anyone on the Lausanne. Like Kardak. And those international waters that you want to claim is in the expense of Turkey not China, US or some other country. Sea and Law treaty says sit down and find an equitable solution with affected sides. Not the increase your waters bilaterally and get hostile with your neighbor. Turkey has as much right as Greece has on the international waters in the Islands sea.

[@giannisfragos722]

Love your content and your channel can you talk about Greece or the Balkans during the cold war as it is an interesting topic especially in a place like the Balkans

[@gokberk5389]

thanks for the video from Turkey

[@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008]

Heyo good vid, but one thing I wanted to point out was you said Morea fell in 1460, but Eprius made it to 1479.

[@darthfatcow5725]

Eh, I would say the rivalry and animosity doesn't just come from the Ottomans annexing Greece, it also stems from that Turkic tribes over a series of several campaigns (going back all the way to the Seljuks in the 11th century) systematically kicked out the Greeks out of Anatolia and it's subsequent Turkification.

[@ozlembaytur7426]

evet biz gelmeseydik latinler bütün ortadokslardan kömür yapardı. bunuda hesaba kat

[@ArdaSReal]

I mean yeah but Anatolia was never completely Greek to begin with it was Anatolian. That culture and language was completely wiped out with hellenazation tho

[@Ralampos]

@@ArdaSReal blame the romans but i guess the byzantines were greek romans....

[@alpertunga6792]

The owners of Anatolia have changed for thousands of years. Hittites > Ionian > Persia > Rome > Turks (last owners)

[@Zeyede_Seyum]

@@ArdaSReal what about the Armenians? They’re native to eastern Anatolia and they weren’t hellenized.

[@wyattwilliams2457]

Here to learn, can you do a video on the Baxter rebellion, please.

[@ciprian.a3]

Love this discussion. Would be interesting to do something similar with france/england or india/pakistan

[@teomamalos]

Insightful video, precise, respectull to both sides. Like you said of course, there are a lot of things left unsaid in here that would need their own video series. A lot behind the scenes shenanigans, a lot of political mishaps. It's a deep seated grudge that won't disappear any time soon. I'm Greek, i don't want to hold hate in my heart for anyone that didn't harm me directly, but being also part Pontic, i can't help but feel something. Not hate neceserally. Somethin

[@ntonisa6636]

Overall better job than most of the "why GR - TR hate each other" vids (which I've noticed there are many out there recently) which typically explain nothing except repeat stereotypes about "ancient enemies" who just can't help it... though not perfect but better than most attempts I've seen. Turkey btw had actually declared 12 nautical miles of territorial sea in all its southern, northern and sea of Marmara coasts (so everywhere it suited them) already in the 60s (so even before the UNCLOS update made it legal to do so in the 80s) . Also the map of "greek claims" you used at 7:29 is from turkish state propaganda network TRT, meant to showcase “Greek maximalism” thus is not official but a propaganda map containing purposeful errors and omissions. Finally of all those islands you showed only the Dodecanese islands which were ceded by Italy to Greece after WW2 are explicitly referred as demilitarized, but the treaty that stipulates that doesn't include Turkey at all among its signatories, thus Turkey's frequent claims about the “rights” it derive from it are also very dubious.

[@alphaomega9236]

Greece and Turkey's rivalry started in the 11th Century When Greece ( Byzantium Empire ) started fighting the Turkish tribes who immigrated to Anatolia from Asia

[@vali6739]

Please make a video on the Dardanians

[@Hippie_King15]

Random comment for one of the KZbinrs that I always like.

[@Sizeofabigbitch]

Badass of history idea: Bayard Rustin. General coverage: Khmer Rouge, the Tamil kings, and various African empires.

[@pxpq]

I know the civil rights movement seems like a big thing for the people living in the U.S, but in reality he was just a guy and there are really no sub-saharan african kingdoms that's worth talking about, northern african kingdoms are cool tho...

[@jeremyaubrey3927]

I’ve listened to every episode on Spotify while I’m working love your podcast just literally came to KZbin to put a face to the voice holy cow not what I was picturing I was picturing a nerdy black haired skinny guy with glasses😂

[@MerkhVision]

He has a strong voice, and a strong face to match lol. He doesn’t sound nerdy or skinny (if it’s possible to sound skinny lol)

[@jeremyaubrey3927]

I had a science teacher who sounds exactly the same as him who is exactly what I described above so it’s probably based on that is why I pictured him like that most likely

[@jeremyaubrey3927]

I definitely find the podcast even cooler now that I Know what they look like it feels a lot more like listening to a friend tell you a cool story

[@jimfish5981]

The older I get, I just see the world as a game of Sid Meier's Civilization...

[@anotheryoutuberperson38]

Just one more turn

[@cuneytcigdem3747]

I am a Turk and we love all of people in the world.Of course we love Greek people so much.That is only politic!!! Others can not finish Turkish-Greek friendship! Best regards all of Greek friends! ❤🇹🇷🇬🇷💙

[@nickmarkopoulos2720]

Not tryin to be an ass, just cause I think you’re the type of guy who likes to know pronunciations. Chios is spoken as ‘he-os’ Love the vid!

[@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008]

Hey Roman take back your city already. Hagia Sophia calls for the return of ρωμαϊκός!

[@CouchTomato87]

@bastiat It's not really silent. Ch is like the German ch, the throaty "kh," which can sometimes sound like a harshly pronounced "h"

[@CouchTomato87]

@bastiat We don't have silent C's in English. We pronounce Greek ch like "k."

[@mariosbardis4831]

@bastiat nah, ch is the latinisation of the voiceless velar fricative (basically a strong english h) which is the letter χ in greek alphabet. Its not really a silent c.

[@indrast5203]

@@CouchTomato87 Ch is the English representation of the Greek letter " Χ ,χ " it makes an H sound like in the word House although it goes a tiny bit towards a C sound like in the word Cat It's really complicated because of Ancient Greek.

[@yiannchrst]

One of your maps is wrong, somewhere near the middle of the video. Mytilene is Greek.

[@eliscerebralrecyclingbin7812]

Cool thanks

[@spottiercamp8183]

The history behind turkey and Greece is nothing short of amazing

[@ossie1129]

We don't hate each other! At least the people don't. We're loving neighbours. I'm from Turkish descent originally and found Greeks are always friendly and nice. Been to Greece on vacation and people were always so hospitable and good. It's politics that wants them to hate each other for their own profit.

[@someonethatlikesyou7713]

hello I'm greek an I appreciate your respect too us and we also do! sadly our governments don't say the same. I hope in the next elections (of turkey and later greece) the governments will finally have good relationships and do not mess with the people that don't even want any conflict in this islands! :)

[@joshithegreat5303]

I dont know exactly but it doesnt help that many brainwashed turks still deny the genocides or mass killings they did against every non turk. Its even worse when you factor in the thing that the turks are not indigenous to anatolia.

[@__-oq8gz]

I have family on Chios. The Islanders and the Turks across the water have no issues. They depend on each other quite a bit economically

[@johnchrys5716]

@@__-oq8gz Same with Kastelorizo the Turks say they miss the Greeks who used to visit them to sit and drink a coffee and buy fresh produce etc.. The two do not hate each other but quite the opposite.

[@VergiliosSpatulas]

X to doubt on that one.

[@depreciatingasset]

It is ridiculous to go back 2000years. Turks moved to Anatolia in 1100s. Greeks were byzantine rome

[@dusuncediyalog1505]

We want to inform us about the Armenian, Greek , Assyrian genocide .... from 1896 - 1922 and the Kurdish genocide until today !!

[@user-nz1eu8cz1d]

Actually the last vestige of the greek speaking Byzantine Empire was the Empire Of Trepizond in Northeastern Asia Minor.

[@richardsantosgarcia8972]

One aspect that always haunts me in regards to the hatred festered as a consequence of the greco-turkish war (post WWI) is one that is often times overlooked. You see, in their misguided attempts at ensuring ethnically pure states, both Greece and Turkey would swap vast amounts of populations that would be forcibly uprooted from the land they had been living in for generations and being sent to live on a new artificial country they had no connection to. This resulting of course, in greeks that had previously lived in Anatolia facing discrimination for being seen as too "turkish" by mainland greeks and viceversa for the turks. Those people were left in a figurative no man's land, utterly sickening stuff. Time Ghost History's team has an excellent video on this very topic.

[@__-oq8gz]

There were more Greeks in Asia Minor sent to Greece than Turks in Greece sent to Asia Minor. Also this occurred after several genocides (Pontic & Thracian)

[@sigmaentrepreneur5018]

@@__-oq8gz Because of genocide happened in Morea where Greeks killed Albanians and Turks living in Southern Greece not even going to mention first balkan wars which forced most of the Turkish population out of balkans

[@sigmaentrepreneur5018]

@@kristaps5296 ah yes this is that part of the Greco-Turkish online argument 🏊‍♂️🏊‍♂️

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@@sigmaentrepreneur5018 🤿🦃🤿 Seitan Vapor 👍

[@sigmaentrepreneur5018]

@@secretname4190 no no its billions +we launched the asteroid which made dinos extinct we are bad törks we will kidnop yor chöldren HOHO

[@stelios5314]

A thing to note: Turkey hasnt signed the Paris Peace Treaty of 1947, therefore, complaining about the demilitarization status is not their right. That's up to countries that did signed it (eg Italy)

[@jupiterbirlesikgezegenleri9884]

Lmao

[@stelios5314]

@@jupiterbirlesikgezegenleri9884 What's funny about what I wrote?

[@jupiterbirlesikgezegenleri9884]

@@stelios5314 im just laughing at your wrong statement. Treaties dont work like that

[@stelios5314]

@@jupiterbirlesikgezegenleri9884 They do work like that. My comment is refering to the Dodecaneese islands. And there is a law of the UN that says exactly this (about the countries that sign treaties) (I cant recall the exact article right now). I didnt just imagined that.

[@user-np2od5iv4k]

Love your videos

[@wanamingo4961]

Goatse thumbnail lmao

[@tahiregemenbahceci2739]

as a Turkish person Thanks for the objective and accurate infos

[@thecaptainseye]

As a Greek, you can see how it’s dishonest for the Turkish government to consider that it has the legal right to militarize its coasts with considerable force, but to also claim that Greeks are still bound not to do it?

[@nightcore1054]

@@thecaptainseye coasts and islands two different things. Turkey let the islands to greece with a condition. the condition in the treaty was do not militarise the islands. Greece agreed it and didnt militarise for a while. And now start to militarising them.

[@thecaptainseye]

@@nightcore1054 What, don’t islands have coasts? Are they not Greek land? I don’t get you. What is the cutoff point for you to consider any land mass a shore and not an island? Crete is huge and you still consider it to produce no EEZ. As for the militarization, it’s explained in the video. Greece’s position is that the agreement not to militarise islands was predicated upon the condition that Turkey wouldn’t militarise their coasts. Thatks why Greece signed that in the first place. As the Montreaux Convention allowed Turkey to militarise the shores, Greece did the same with the islands. You can’t have it both ways. Besides, despite what you may hear on the news (don’t really know what they tell you there, but my European friends tell me Turkish media are extremely tightly controlled by Erdogan), Greece did this in response to Turkey, whereas Turkey acted first by militarising its shores. It seems naive to me that Turkey would think it’s free to develop military forces capable of seizing entire islands but expect no action in return. Trust is also a problem. We have no guarantee that this military force won’t be used to leverage negotiations on matters that are currently not under negotiation. I would be more lenient to Turkey’s positions if the government didn’t do blatantly dishonest stuff like drawing maritime borders OVER LAND (i.e. Crete) with Libya. What stops them from drawing maritime borders with Italy then? Not recognizing that islands produce an EEZ like they don’t even exist is also dishonest. On a more ethical and less political level, claiming rights to the Aegean sea is also dishonest. Turkey is a huge country with multiple sources of both natural resources and income. Greece is a lot smaller and with less natural resources and depends on the Aegean sea as tourism on these islands is a huge source of income for a lot if not most Greeks. Splitting the Aegean not only turns Turkey into a dangerous superpower but also minimizes Greece’s economic and military power. If the situation were reversed would you do the same? Would you think it fair? I know governments don’t care about “fairness” in this sense, as all they care about is expanding their influence. But the people shouldn’t support this.

[@nightcore1054]

@@thecaptainseye actually, turkey's coast militarization was response to greece's island militarization according to my sources . I dont follow news, news paper or other traditional media things(idk what turkey's or greece's traditional media says cuz as u know traditional medias always controlling by the governments and good at manipulating people). Im just surfing in the internet and as i see some eu sources claim the thing u said and neutral sources claim the thing i said. eu sources probably manipulative so i trusted in neutral sources. And u probably believed that what some eu sources said.

[@nightcore1054]

@@thecaptainseye Also turning turkey into a superpower is not a bad thing if u dont want to claim any territory of turkey. As you know turkey is kind of bridge between asia and europe, if turkey became a superpower it will be better for both sides(asia and europe[cuz turkey's roadways ,security, tunnels etc will be better and u will get what u want faster, cheaper and more secure from other continent.])

[@ElizaBeth-ng3pu]

This is not a rivalry… But I would be fascinated to hear more about the Viking Thing.

[@pxpq]

What is it then?

[@ElizaBeth-ng3pu]

@@pxpq Viking Thing was their yearly gathering to judge cases, trade, see friends and generally party… but the structure and culture involved is really interesting

[@ntalikerman1]

@@ElizaBeth-ng3pu What pxpq is trying to say is that if this is not a rivalry what is it? We are in the brink of war.

[@pxpq]

@@ElizaBeth-ng3pu no i mean what is it if not a rivalry?

[@ElizaBeth-ng3pu]

@@pxpq OH! Wait. Cross communication. In the video, he said something to the effect of: if you want to hear about other rivalries, comment down below… My response meant: the subject that I am going to suggest, is not a rivalry, but I would be interested in learning about… I did not mean to infer that the hostilities that are happening between Pakistan and India was not a rivalry. That is sure what it looked like tho’

[@matthews1681]

Dankness.

[@Vasanistis12]

Although not perfect, that's the most honest take and well made english video I have seen on this topic. Sub deserved.

[@tolgacetiner1243]

Turkey should have took more islands in the independence war, then there wouldn’t be so many issues. There are too many Greek islands off the coast of turkey.

[@comingafteryou5352]

Or Greece should have kept the coast since it belonged to them. That's another solution and more rightful 😉.

[@athlitikosomateioanth4567]

but it didn't. End of story, the islands are populated by Greeks so taking them now requires you to do ethnic cleansing. Same dull argument as Greece should have kept Istanbul

[@asdf-sr1ny]

@@comingafteryou5352they certainly tried lmao

[@billpetrak]

2:28 You are wrong! The Despotate of Moria was not the only one. There was the Despotate of Epirus, the Empire of Trebizond, the Principality of Theodoro and others.

[@bumin6451]

Not greek. They’re pontic. Back in those days anything other than mainland greece was considered it’s own culture. it was after WW1 that greece created this national identity.

[@axeltenveils6816]

@@bumin6451 Except Pontic Greeks had a Greek identity, which is why the Ottomans and then later early Turkey tried to wipe them out. Trying to say they hadn't had a Greek identity already by the late 1800s is either lack of knowledge or propaganda. Just look at their own writings for their identity. Like hell, they even tried several times to appeal to Venizelos to be united with Greece.

[@bumin6451]

​@@axeltenveils6816 when did venizelos live? So you get the point that greek national identity formed much later than the 15th and 16th century. Also early Turkey and the Young turks of the Ottomans are two different entities. Trying to put them all into one "Turkish agenda" is ignorant and just a lack of immense knowledge about that time. Yes, there have been massacres done by the young turks but stating that the early Turkish republic of Atatürk is to be blamed is just putting the blame of a greek invasion on the turks. Let's not forget that after all it was the greek army that invaded Anatolia to which a natural response was a counter offensive by the Turkish rebels(not ottoman government). so here is a question similar to the Pontic situation, What happened to the turks in the balkans after the Balkan wars? Were they "peacefully" send back to Anatolia? We all know that the answer is NO but you can't say that the greeks or bulgarians weren't rightfully taking their lands back. Try to look at these events from both perspectives.

[@axeltenveils6816]

@@bumin6451 ...what the fuck is this rant? Did I pretend that ethnic cleansings did not happen? If so tell me where. And please, both the Ottoman Empire, and the Young-Turks took measures in wiping out the populations of Christians in the Pontic area. I'm specifically talking about the measures taken by Ottoman AND Turkish governments in the late 19th-early 20th century, as well as the propaganda that there weren't Greeks in Pontus, trying to minimise the quite vibrant and economically important population of Pontic Greeks in the area. Saying there weren't Greeks there in that era is a talking point of people trying to minimise ethnic cleansing. And damn I'd be happy to talk about how the era all around sucked, and how Muslim populations were just as harmed, but we have absolutely no evidence that something of that scale and with that level of organisation was made by the other Balkan countries. If you want whataboutism I can go about the 1950s in Constantinople and the pogrom, the constant laws of the Turkish Republic targeting Christians. I could go about how my family was ousted from their village by Turkish partisans that burned it to the ground, and how even (generally) impartial sources agree with it. But that's not really a discussion worth making here. What you call Greek invasion, had absolutely nothing to do with what happened in Pontus. Or with Armenia. The Young Turk/Early Turkish republic cleansing of minorities is the successor to a similar Ottoman one, with many of the heads being of the same social circles if not the same people. Knowing that does not mean I lack knowledge of the era, I've in fact done research on that era as part of university studies. Am I gonna blame modern Turkish citizens of those massacres? Not really no. Am I going to excuse similar massacres? Fuck no. But the whole Pontic thing is a talking point of Genocide deniers. So no, I'm not going to leave it.

[@axeltenveils6816]

@@bumin6451 And because I'm not finished speaking, already not even decades later than the conquest of Constantinople we have recognition of the Greek-speaking Christian communities by the Sultans, because they were recongised as exceptional miners, and thus were protected from the beys, and from any other depredation, directly being a "feudal holding" of the Sultan, Communities that were rather vibrant, and started to spread out throughout Anatolia due to their capabilities as miners. And we can trace that through the metropolis of Gümüşhane, and how widespread the parishes answering to it were. By the 19th century with now the presence of the Great Powers in the Black Sea, those same communities became further rich, building their own schools, highschools, etc. Which concerned the Ottoman leadership who had started considering Turkification by then. So no it wasn't a product of WW1, or the campaign of Anatolia, or breaking apart of the Ottoman empire, by the time of Venizelos those communities were already well established, even having their own leadership, arts, literature, etc.

[@kenankapetanovic2885]

.Bravo :D

[@janki3353]

Do Armenia and Turkey/Azerbaijan next!

[@DeTofuKing]

As a Greek-American, thank you for covering this.

[@Petreski447]

As a Greek, decide what you are Greek or American!

[@anotheryoutuberperson38]

@@Petreski447 They are an American with Greek ancestry. Just like how I am an American with Turkish ancestry.

[@kagtkalem7115]

Ç is pronounced as Ch and Ş is pronounced as Sh. Other than that very detailed and accurate analysis. Good job.

[@HaveFunTakingCrack]

as a Greek I want to ask a turk something. So you really think we want to attack turkey? or do you think turkey is going to try to take Greek islands?

[@Vanlost]

​@@HaveFunTakingCrack We think it is not fair to have all the gas in the Aegean and Mediterrenean. Nobody would accept it when you have the longest coastline. But you extend the country's borders wholly until the coast of Turkey because you have some rocks? This is the main reason and no sane country will accept that. Everyboud would laugh at it.

[@spellplague]

@@Vanlost Cmon even the name "Aegean" is ancient Greek. It is Traditionally that Greece is a sea country, why you just dont accept it and want more and more sea? When it comes to gas to be honest i agree that both countries should make a deal and extract it together and share the profits

[@Vanlost]

@@spellplague we dont care about the islands or the sea but we dont want to be left out from the gas when every country gets something one way or another.

[@iskambillordu]

@@spellplague states does not run their politics based on the name of the region. turks have names for some greek cities that have turkic origin. does that mean those cities. are turkish? no,obviously. tradition does not mean anything among countries. if it did,turks should claim lands of hungary,romania,egyptand many more since all of them were ottoman lands at some points.

[@yannick3535]

Spicy

[@satebag4518]

The Australian frontier wars?

[@pouri528]

Very lackluster analysis Turkey mainly hates Greece for: -Massacres of Turkish people in the Greek war of independence, the greco Turkish war of 1923 and communal violence in Cyprus that led to what we have today. Turkey finds it unfair how an international un law allows Greece to control the vast majority of the Aegean, stopping it's expansion into the open ocean. Greece mainly hates Turkey for: -400 years of brutal occupation and cultural assimilation into an Islamic sultanate, delaying the arrival of enlightenment ideas to the country. -The genocide of Greeks in Asia Minor starting in 1914. -The Turkish invasion of Cyprus -The constant fear of invasion from Turkey, should Greece practice it's territorial rights in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean. -The laws and pogroms Turkey took on in order to completely wipe even the Greeks that survived the genocide and that were exempt from the 1923 population exchange in Anatolia, a land they lived on for almost 3000 years

[@henryaybaz7409]

Ethnic cleansing in Crete, Moria, Selanik. 300k buildings s razed in 1922 in west Anatolia along with Genocide to population. Greeks even disrespected the death. What to they want from people death centuries ago? Hostilities and massacres in the Cyprus against Turkish Cypriots. Maximalist claims of Greeks in Islands Sea and Eastern Mediterranean. They want to claim international waters solely for their selves.

[@HarshmanHills]

you didn't mention anything about the british sovereign bases there as well

[@MadDogRyan]

I was on discord with my buddy from Greece playing online games with VC on when I heard and old lady yell "damn turks" apparently she was watching the news but damn was she loud

[@Rigardoful]

Are you certain about the total demilitarization part?

[@vasilisantonopoulos9326]

Suspiciously oversimplified presentation leading to the deception that there is a conflict where both sides have valid points, which obviously is in favor of the offender. Historically the accuracy is only based on the dates where the actual states of Hellas or Turkey have been established with their current names almost completely ignoring that we are not talking about states only but nations that have thousands years of history even in the case of Turkey. On the actual facts of the current issues you seem to focus on the status of the islands based on the treaty of Lausagne. For one thing the islands of Eastern Aegean were not "given" to Hellas by the treaty, but they were rather liberated by the Greek Navy ten years earlier along with Imvros and Tenedos right of the straits. So if you want to use the expression islands given, you should use it for those islands that were under Hellenic control at that time and were given to Turkey by the treaty. As for the rest of the islands ( Dodecanysa excluded), only their status was defined. These fall under two categories , those in the north and those in the middle of the Aegean. Originally in the treaty the status was prohibiting fortification and naval bases, but clearly stated the existence of sufficient military presence of garrison to offer the necessary defense. Later in 1936 in the treatyunder Turkey"s request the status of the islands ot North Aegean changed without any clauses, as at that time Turkey wanted to militarize the straits and was only too happy if Hellas did the same. As for the Dodecanysa it is not a matter between Hellas and Turkey, since the islands were returned to Hellas by Italy by the treaty of Paris in 1947 as part of retribution for the WWII , where Hellas was on the winning side, Italy on the loosing and Turkey was absent from the treaty, as she was absent from the war. Overstating also the distance of the islands from the Ionian coast, is just ridiculous as this is case for all borders land or maritime, all over the world. One side belongs to one state , the other to the other state and each have the right to do as they please irrespective of the distance between them. The argument becomes even more ridiculous if you look at Thrace where there is the largest military concentration in Europe on both sides, and there only a medium sized river between them. You completely "forgot" to mention that the side, that clearly violated the treaty is Turkey, refusing to follow the terms for the islands of Imvros and Tenedos, and expelling at least twice the Greek occupants of Instanbul ( Their number was 150000 at that time, and less than 5000 now)The twelve miles that Turkey disputes, is a right given to Hellas under the international law, in this case Turkey is at least questionable on two fronts. First Turkey has defined its maritime borders in the Black sea based on the UNCLOS treaty but refuses to do the same with Hellas in the Aegean, and the second is that Turkey has issued a casus beli if Hellas exercises its legal rights. If you have done your homework, you would have seen that even the threat of war is illegal under the UN constitution. As for Cyprus I see that you neglected to say that the Turkish invasion was condemned by the UN, and the almost 50 years occupation was also condemned several times with constant request for the withdrawal of the illegal forces. You have also "neglected " to mention the fact that Turkey illegally signed a maritime agreement with Libya over the Hellenic islands, that Turkey illegally proceeded on research and drilling in Cypriot maritime space, and wanted to do the same in the Hellenic side. That Turkey organized a state directed invasion of 50000 illegal refugees in 1920, and continues to do the same in smaller numbers on daily basis. That Turkey not only violates the Hellenic airspace on daily basis, but also overpasses the islands themselves. That Turkey not only said that they will do what needs to be done, but Erdogan himself threatened to come one night like the coward he is , and promised to send ballistic missiles to bomb Athens. Overall very poor effort, almost on the brink of propaganda...

[@razorian100]

As a Greek, I actually worked with Turks here (worked in the same enviroment) and they were all awesome.

[@Tsekalare]

You dont need 11 min to explain that conflict, just a sentence: 400 years living in captivity under Pisslam, getting independence in 1821 and on top of that, a 100 later, from 1914 till 1924, a decade of genocide. Almost forgot, have i mentioned Cyprus?

[@Raymond_Legrasse]

Pisslam?! Ώ ρε φίλε, γάμησες!😂👍🏻💯

[@commandercostas]

Oh boy

I don't think Greeks and Turks hate each other. It's about goverments and politics. A lot of Greek and Turkish people won't support any war against each other. I hope our goverments will find a common ground in the future.

[@td003]

Actually every Greek and Turk would defend their homes to the last breath so even if they don't support the war the will send each other to their God

@@td003 in defensive manners it's true

[@markospap92]

That's so true. Young people know that they have nothing to separate. What happened in the past isn't in our control today. Having constant tensions for political reasons doesn't mean that Greeks hate Turks and vice versa!

[@VergiliosSpatulas]

@@td003 Small difference being Constantinople and Smyrni aren't Turkish homes since 2.5k years ago where the natives settled in, until they were genocided somewhat recently from that shithead Kemal.

[@AAA-tc6li]

@@markospap92 σώπα ρε φίλε που μιλάς λες και είσαι εκπρόσωπος τον Ελλήνων, ε λοιπόν εσένα μπορεί να μη σε πειράζει η γενοκτονία ή το ότι δημιούργησαν τα κράτη τους υποδουλώνοντας Ελληνικά εδάφη, το ότι μετέτρεψαν την Αγιά Σοφιά σε τζαμί, το ότι λένε ψέμματα από την αρχή μέχρι και σήμερα. Αλλά υπάρχουν Έλληνες με εθνική συνείδηση όπως πριν την επανάσταση που η Ελλάς ήταν αυτόνομη από την Αθήνα και μέχρι την Λαμία. Αν επικρατούσε η νοοτροπία η δική σου η Ελλάδα θα ήταν μέχρι την Λαμία και σήμερα, αλλά επειδή υπήρξαν λεβέντες Έλληνες και όχι δειλοί ηττοπαθείς ελληνόφωνοι όπως σήμερα, απελευθερώσαμε μεγάλα κομμάτια της αιώνιας γης μας και πάντα με αίμα και πάντα με αγώνες. Δεν χύθηκε το αίμα μας για να έρχεται ο κάθε ρομαντικός σήμερα και να λέει δεν τρέχει τίποτα. Φωτιά και τσεκούρι.

[@spirosgreek1171]

As a greek, thank you for this video, explains a lot of stuff and the viewpoint of both countries. I have been to Turkey recently, and I loved my time there. The sites, the food and the people were all amazing. Despite the geopolitical rivalry, I'm glad that both peoples are for the most part so hospitable and friendly towards one another

[@giorgosxglavas]

Very accurate and not bias at all. As a greek i hope this rivalry will end and turks and greek can go exist and benefit from each other.

[@oblurbo1807]

Do the Sabah claims between Philippines and Malaysia

[@thanosandnobill3789]

I don't want to be cynical. But, in my life, I have met many friendly and cool Turkish people that are also open-minded, don't like Turkish government authoritarianism, enjoy traveling, and even like greek music and greek food. Then suddenly many of them proceed and tell me out of the blue how greek people are greedy that have all the islands of the Aegean sea and that we must give back to Turkey some of them. Nationalism is so high in Turkey that even centrists there could be considered super nationalists by European standards.

[@didemguse2027]

We don't want an island from you. However, we felt threatened when we started to pile heavy weapons and soldiers on your islands, which are very close to us and which we can reach by swimming. Interestingly, Turks see Greece as a threat, and Greece sees Turks as a threat. Perhaps these two peoples are incited against each other. Maybe the scenario is different.

[@AlLaST0I2]

@@didemguse2027 So, Superpower Turkey of 80 million people with such a formidable military, the heir to the great Ottomans, feels threatened by a small defensive force scattered on some islands. 😆 Yeah right!!

[@AlLaST0I2]

@@cenktuneygok8986 First of all, don't confuse a country with a nation. Greece might be a small country, but as a nation, it is one of the most important in world history, unlike your warmongering tribes that offered nothing else to the world than slaughters, war and totalitarianism. Second, I see that ww1 was such a traumatic experience for the Turks who have become completely paranoid and still believe in world conspiracies that seek to eliminate them. Do you really believe that Greece wants to grab land from you? From what I see the opposite happens, when your top officials claim Greek lands openly and shamelessly in public speeches. We have the right to defend our lands from aggressive expansionist bullies like your current administration, and we will certainly not let our islands to fall an easy prey. Stop swallowing your government propaganda and come join us in the 21 century.

[@henryaybaz7409]

Why do you think the Turks wants to give up their rights in the Islands Sea? Except for PKK terrorists nobody wants to give up an inch of soil or water in Turkey.

[@didemguse2027]

@AlLaSTOl2 Just because it's a minor threat doesn't change the fact that it's still a threat. Terrorists on the Syrian border are also a minor threat, but for our security, we should care about all of them.

[@MojoBonzo]

why do turkey and greece hate each other? ok let me explain. it was the year of our lord 1071...

[@korkukokusu8311]

1071 ? Lol . As a turk, i dont remember 1000 years ago.

[@nickname1969]

@@korkukokusu8311 he means the war of malazgirit. The war that allows turks to take anatolia

[@MojoBonzo]

@@korkukokusu8311 its a joke mate

[@korkukokusu8311]

@@MojoBonzo oh

[@thedarkpassenger84]

This is one of the first unbiased videos about Turks or Turkey that I've seen. Appreciate your work brother.

[@peterga3658]

this prob with the islands you might think its something Greece trying to push to be near ""Turkey land"" to keep the waters etc but thats not truth you cn read about the Mikra Asia war and the genocide that happen there from the turkish side .

[@philipmccrevis3678]

Most peaceful dispute in the Balkans

[@chriskalogrias926]

Those ticking bombs are the most destructive ones. We have been really patient.

[@Toshiro_Mifune]

@@chriskalogrias926 and that should remain so. as far as we don't start anything, they can't cross, and the allies will be forced to join the defender. we're not patient, we're wining the long game.

[@chriskalogrias926]

@@Toshiro_Mifune Yes, I understand. I'm just being sceptical, if that's the right course of action, when the one is buying and the other is producing. It's a double cutting knife.

[@Toshiro_Mifune]

@@chriskalogrias926 produce? lmao, yeah a drone maybe....

[@notgabbyb]

here to learn about conflict

[@anestiskaragiannis7391]

No hate, friends 👍🏼

[@georgios_5342]

7:27 why is there a problem? Aren't the islands Greek? Shouldn't Turkey be satisfied that it conquered half of Greece already? Why don't they keep the land they got, and Greece keeps its seas?

[@halilturk9948]

Great video love your content from a turk 🇹🇷 living in the 🇺🇸

[@korkukokusu8311]

Yunanisan 2kmkare adası olduğu yerde bile 12 mil deniz sahanlığı hakkı idda ediyo ve saçmalıktan ibaret . 7:44 e bakarsan ne kadar adaletsiz bir paylaşım olduğunu görürsün

[@92MojoJojo]

Even when one tries to take an equal approach to the matter you simply can't because Turkish expansionism and its nostalgia for empire creeps in. At 7:29 you show a map made by Turkey that shows the Greek island of Lesbos as Turkish territory. How can you expect Greece not to take precautions in order to protect its territory against an aggressive neighbour, especially when that neighbour has aggressed upon and invaded multiples surrounding countries in the past decades.

[@Dmanepic]

Good question?

[@KonigGustavAdolph]

Little known fact: The ethnic cleansing (though it was actually based on religion not ethnicity) was sanctioned and championed by The League of Nations.

[@snowdrop9810]

Leauge of garbage, good to know. Though I'm assuming only the ethnic cleansing of muslims was championed by the leauge of nations which was essentially just pure christian

[@hasancosar9781]

BTW it was suggested by Greeks.

[@korkukokusu8311]

It was greek govrements idea

[@arisdelis1]

@@hasancosar9781 it was the policy of the Young Turks and Kemal by lessons from Germany to convert or exterminate ALL Non Muslim inhabitants of ANATOLIA.....ie Armenian/Pontian/Assyrian Genocides

[@georgios_5342]

7:38 mind you, these are not just Greek claims, every country in the world except Turkey recognizes this

[@henryaybaz7409]

What is every other county, South Cyprus?

[@papertoyss]

With Turkey assembling on its Aegean coast the largest army in the Mediterranean basin, in furthermore an *agressive formation,* and with this country having already invaded and still occupying lands in *three* neighbouring countries (Cyprus, Syria, Iraq), the rational thing to say is that according to the United Nations charter what is under direct threat has every the right to defence, and this *stands above any Treaty.* _"...Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations..."_

[@issith7340]

No treaty says that dodecanyse are to be demilitarised.!! Lawsane treaty also say’s about greek populations of imvros, tenesos and Istanbul. Turkey already violated the later, the next day of the treaty.

[@Tasos04252]

The truth is that it’s not just Greece that has to deal with the troubles of the Turkish Republic, it’s also Turkeys neighbors like Syria, Armenia, Iraq, Libya, and Bulgaria.

[@mariosathens1]

Turkey was not even invited to Paris Treaty, it is not a signatory power, so it doesn't have a say over the Greek Dodecanese islands and their military status. As for the Nothern Aegean islands close to the Bosporus Straits, their military status changed with Montreux Treaty, which allowed Turkey to militarize the Straits. For the Foreigners who wrote Laussane Treaty, the Straits and the Greek islands close to them was a "package". Greece wouldn't have a reason to militarize the Aegean islands if Turkey (which calls 132 of them as occupied-Greek) wasn't building its huge 4th Army a few miles away from the alleged "occupied Greek" islands.. UN Charter says all countries have the right to Defensive forces, and so does Greece,

[@albaniankebabshopowner]

you have no right to genocide us and invade us again :)

[@user-en6be3cw8l]

@@albaniankebabshopowner You dont have the right to kill 1.5 million armenians too but you did. Expecting a response like: propaganda brainwashing noyhing happened

[@albaniankebabshopowner]

@@kristaps5296 ok then can you explain the greek occupation of the islands and İzmir ww1 and turkish genocide by greece ?

[@albaniankebabshopowner]

@@user-en6be3cw8l classic greek trick of mentioning something else to cry about because how weak your argument really is and no its not propaganda the numbers are indeed false plus you didnt mention the turks that were slaughtered by the hands of the armenians and by doing that they would deserve it and at the time we were starving too not only them and millons of turks dead of hunger at the end of the day its greco-armenian propaganda against the turkic race and it all didnt happen

[@user-en6be3cw8l]

@@albaniankebabshopowner turks were slain by armenian gangs buddy. Those deserved a punishment but pretty sure those gangs didnt have a population of 1.5 million. Also can you explain to me what happened to 1.5 m people on ottoman armenia. Where did they go? If you check the demographics and population of those areas you can see that armenian population got extremely low but 1.2-1.5 million armenians just dissapear. Nothing in the population of russian armenia georgia and azeirbaijan not even russia itself. Where did they go they just dissapeared

[@irjatpasholli1489]

Can you explain about Albania that’s the only countrie surround with speaking Albanian Please

[@davidscwimer1974]

Huh ?

[@262dimitri]

I recommend you to read UNCLOS, and in the Paris treaty Turkey is not a signatory part and by that way has no legal right to use it for many reasons. Cyprus was never divided but it was invade by Turkey. And read that Lausanne treaty all the articles around Greece and Turkey. And since you like history you missed the pogroms of Istanbul.

[@davidlegrice4207]

Turkey has no right to expect Greece to abide by the treaty of Lausanne considering the number of times that they violated it themselves in order to ethncly cleanse their remaining Greek population.

[@gumusfatih]

Greek and Turkish sovereignty is determined with the Treaty of Lausanne. If both countries does not recognise the treaty so this means they do not recognise their sovereignty. So Turkey have right to claim the islands are belong to Turkey. You mean this.

[@AKRITAS365]

​@@gumusfatihThat's your interpretation illiterate turkomongol! The treaties are written to be respected and abide by their rules just like any rule of law. Otherwise there will be consequences which means the countries that signed it will turn against ypu either by military or diplomatic means.

[@jacquehohenheim7934]

Speaking of which, can you do an episode on the Pontic Greek Genocide?

[@asryorumcu5208]

There are gennocides committed by the Greeks against the Turks. Both sides committed gennocide against each other.

[@asryorumcu5208]

@@kristaps5296 greasy grekroach.

[@birisi916]

@@asryorumcu5208 40k Turks in Morea were massacred

[@comingafteryou5352]

@@asryorumcu5208 Do you know the difference between a genocide and a massacre?

[@Hioloi]

Literally russian propaganda.

[@commandergeokam2868]

I just want to make a correction in 7:38 the map is wrong the island of Lesbos is Greek not turkish as is it shows on the map but after a little you will see this map is frot trt so i wouldnt exepct something diffrent

[@eastcorkcheeses6448]

It could be argued that the animosity is particularly hot at the moment for a few reasons, gréek is spending less on it's military now than previously because of the 2008 financial crises , also turkey has its own major economic issues ,mainly terrible inflation - and there's nothing like a good nationalistic conflict to keep A public on side , Add to that ,turkey is considerably pivoting away from the Eu ,and NATO and portraying itself as a major regional power , especially looking east and to Muslim nations , Messy.

[@billysgeo]

Couldn’t have said it better myself!!! Bravo

[@colonelarmfeldt8572]

Yup. I think to some extent both countries want to use war and nationalism to distract from domestic issues, especially the economy.

[@oemchen77]

You are missing on the ressources conflict (mainly gas). But Greece is also provoking by building up it's military presence incl. US bases

[@georgehatzigeorgiou8423]

@@oemchen77 I agree about the resources. If it wasn't for the resources no one would probably care. But to say that Greece is provoking by building up its military presence on the islands is Turkish propaganda. Greece is exercising its right to defend its territory from the Turkish 4th army threat that is a MUCH LARGER INSTALLATION OF MILITARY PRESENCE ON THE COAST OF TURKEY, but you conveniently fail to include such details. Also, the invasion of Cyprus in 1974 is another reason. Want more? Syria, Iraq, KURDISHTAN, ARMENIA, PONTUS... please brother, keep your governments propaganda at bay...

[@oemchen77]

@@georgehatzigeorgiou8423the right is in doubt. According to treaties after the war, the militarization of these islands is prohibited. They are also within reach of turkish artillery and drones, which makes them easy to hit. That's a waste of life and ressources, if it came to war. So why do it at all? This is a clear expression of mistrust towards a NATO ally. And though it surely would be costly to invade Greece islands and have lots of negative repercussions for Turkey, it is a disproportionate conflict. Turkey is a much bigger country and fields a large military. The question would not be if but when Greece would lose these islands. Why not start on a dialogue and find a compromise? The people have no hate against each other. It's just politics and economic interests.

[@graikos13]

Rating of your video 4/10 you missed many crucial points