Why Does God Let Bad Things Happen? | Biblical Series: Exodus

Dr. Jordan Peterson and the round table discuss Chapter 9 of Exodus. In this clip, they consider the notion that for the will to be as free as it can be, it has to span the spectrum of choice between radical evil and radical good. If you have ever wondered “why does God let bad things happen”, this video is for you.
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[@NewSquallor]

Things aren't bad because they're forbidden, they're forbidden because they're bad.

[@brianbridges8124]

why would God create badness, could God not have created a world where free will exists but is not contingent on 'badness' existing. Why is it that God can create us without the ability to fly, but we do not say that he has removed our free will to fly?, but if he created us without the ability to commit bad actions, suddenly he is infringing on our free will?

[@bennythetiger6052]

That's exactly it. The punishment isn't simply an aftermath, it is embedded in the sinful action. Romans 1:24 says: "Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts", meaning that God simply stopped trying to earn the people who fully embraced lies and evil, and instead let them do exactly what they wanted (to harm themselves)

[@colinmeehan791]

Exactly,free will.

[@belodrin3550]

Its not embedded, because if it was, God would have not sent natural disasters our way. People sinning imply that they need to die in floods? C'mon.

[@bennythetiger6052]

@belodrin3550 Your assumption is mistaken. For example, in Noah's story, he was a man who was not only a loyal servant of God but also he had warned the people about the flood (which we can think of as the storms of life), but did people listen? No. He was thought to be crazy. Well, guess what, the flood came, and death had their way with people. If they had chosen good, they would have good, but they chose bad and bad things happened. It's the most natural causality relationship you could imagine. Now, of course, that doesn't apply to all natural disasters that happen, and that would also include the understanding of things like the concept of mortality, finite status, poor life decisions, finding meaning, and so on. By the way, sinning and not straight up dying right there and then is what should be surprising. Our ability to choose is a non-deserved favor

[@belodrin3550]

@@bennythetiger6052 But according to Peterson, come upance comes regardless, but God was like...man these people sinning don't give a shit don't they? Flood them! Warn them before it, just so they remember me as a just God. I'll say it again....a planet killing comet coming out way is not excused because muh free will. All those that arefor that kind of free will I'd ship them in the future to live on the version of Earth when the Sun will die out, only to say "well we wanted to be able to Sin so lets get scorched in about half a second shall we?"🤣🤣🤣

[@bennythetiger6052]

@Insultedyeti712 They did free will up their choice, yes. Now, the problem is that people want a status of free will in which consequences are unbound. But that is simply incompatible with the fabric of reality. It breaks the principle of causality to assume that you can do something without observing its consequences play out, be those favorable or unfavorable. In the great scheme of things, this remains true. Now, the universe is not just humans. So "extrahuman" events can interact with humanity as well as humanity can interact with it. A bear can kill a child, yes. A lumberjack can also bury an axe in a small bear cub's head. There's nothing in physics that denies that. Delving into whether this should be the case is a meaningless pursuit

[@thewillsfamilyaccount6486]

I love this! Educated.. intelligent men.. elders taking up scripture and freely discussing things that affect us today! ❤

[@RichardTargett]

I don't think he's an elder. He's skipping his social media training, as a (psychologist)... Not sure why he's here. "They love you. When your on. All the covers .."

[@davepugh2519]

Educated, intelligent, delusional.

[@mjfullente3359]

"You cannot appreciate The Good without The Evil" "You cannot understand The Evil without The Good"

[@Damstraight68]

Your wrong. We need free will to understand evil not evil existing for the sake of evil. This is because there can be varying levels of good. That of which we simply choose to call evil. Evil is a human construct but Good is something we did not construct because God is Goodness and all things will be forever good.

[@mjfullente3359]

@@Damstraight68 I see that you understand the words in the Bible but still don't understand on how the world works. You see what you call "Free Will" only applies for those people that are free that have a lot of options in their life. It doesn't apply to the people who have a small limited choice depending on what kind of environment they live in. There are two choices for people like that: One, is that you call it "Evil", is that they do think what must be done to survive. Two, the one who refused "Evil" that they ended up dead. The world was tough to live in, when you were born in an unfortunate environment, with unfortunate people and ended up in an unfortunate life. No matter how hard you try you always end up at the bottom, the solution is that you have to be smart and take risks to break that barrier. They are good people but unfortunate people, they have a will to live but they are not free. If you want to understand them, give up your fortunes and live beside them or talk to them, hear their stories, you will then understand the beauty, the hideousness and the in between of the world. Get out of your bubble and see and understand the real world.

[@vladgor4099]

@@mjfullente3359 So essentially you just waddle around and made your own foolish definition of free will. You have choices, I have choices, everyone has choices and free will is what allows it. Free will doesn't mean you will become a millionaire just because you wish to have a million dollars appear in your life. And it doesn't mean you will magically get a plate of food appear when you're starving. But saying that some are born into worse environments then others means that they have a different version of free will then you is stupid. " Do this or die " is free will. When the tribulations come and you will be presented with a choice to take the mark of the beast or die, it will be a choice. And taking the mark and then crying to God saying " But it was hardly a choice!!! It was one or the other, and the other was too difficult of a choice for me to choose " Will not save you... So get out of YOUR bubble, and understand how reality works.

[@RichardTargett]

❤

[@brianbridges8124]

how can something become corrupted if God did not create anything that is potentially corrupting to human beings, if God didnt create these corrupting things, then humans would never have been corrupted. If he did, then that means God is capable of creating things that are inconsistent with goodness which means he cannot be all good or perfect.@@Damstraight68

[@noguile2737]

Not just a sabbath, I have to not be polluted by the world everyday! Everyday keep your minds on things above.. even if your in the world be not of the world.. when I be at working , I have the gospel on in my headphones.. when driving to and from the gospel on.. when I get home read, continue to watch anything dealing with the faith.. Everyday , trust

[@Cheapers-Vac]

I have missed a lot of Sabbaths because of military or civilian work committments ,but when I see Yeshua ,All of my sabbath rests are in Him. Because of His Majesty ,I have them All ❤

[@JohnSmith-qx8ll]

Please get baptized and convert to Catholicism

[@024Nimma]

Christ is King brother 🙏🏻

[@leduck1645]

Jesus is the only way to Heaven

[@hellooutsiders6865]

​@@JohnSmith-qx8llJesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life and the true church is made up of true believers in Him, not a denomination.

[@JohnSmith-qx8ll]

@@hellooutsiders6865 that would also be a denomination by definition

[@joemac84]

Because when God gives us the gift of this life and free choice he allows the capacity of evil but also of capacity to love. You can’t have one possibility without the other. This reality isn’t fixed.. it’s truly for us to define. And that’s the gift, it’s a gift of God’s love that he steps back and allows us that space and freedom

[@cia7800]

Dear Jesus christ. I pray one day that i sit in the midst of these chosen people who aren't afraid to do your will. God bless you all children of God. The God of Israel. Thank you Jesus ✝️

[@aenigmatica8]

There is SO much in here. I’d love to see a whole segment on each concept they talk about. It’s all very fast.

[@grantvanderhoek]

Best 5 minutes on KZbin. Period. Thanks so much for sharing.

[@codedee]

Happy Sabbath people

[@JJChalupnik]

Well.... That was awesome. I'm convinced to watch the whole thing now.

[@Jordan882007]

Where is the full thing?

[@Jordan882007]

Sorry found it.

[@marcoantoniogonzalez7125]

Im cant seem to find it. Care to share it, brother?

[@Utrechtborn]

@@marcoantoniogonzalez7125google it bro

[@victoriajenkins4115]

Yes! It’s not about punishment, it’s about consequences of our own choices/actions. Very good. And talking about missing the Sabbath, that’s actually more profound than was expounded on here. If a person can help it, don’t miss the Sabbath.

[@belodrin3550]

here's a consequence: you're born on earth and a planet killing comet is headed your way. All is good right? I mean you got your free will, so I guess that checks out.

[@sphere117gaming]

Well actually (haven’t watched the video but done need to) technically it’s pretty simple while I’m no religious person if such a being does exist. Simply put ‘evil’ exists because of freedom of thought or individuality. If “God” removed such a thing we would not be free willed. As a part of us has been removed. In order to have free will you have to be able to make your own decisions which can be good or bad. And if a part is taken out then there is no more free will and we’re just being controlled.

[@belodrin3550]

@@sphere117gaming I wouldn't put free will on a pedestal when a planet killing comet can just split our planet in pieces. I get free willl when it comes to evil that we cause ourselves. But I can't square up evil from natural phenomena. Peterson makes the case that when we do bad deeds come uppance is a given without any mystical process occuring. Well from a religious standpoint, that's not true because God was not content with people just sinning and getting their comeupance by natural means....he had to send floods and other natural disasters to set the world straight. Isn't feeling bad about doing a bad deed enough? Floods have to occur? Really weird.

[@KZSoze]

Sure it is, hence punishments and penalties in the Bible. Such as, the punishment for not observing the sabbath, is a death sentence.

[@sphere117gaming]

@Insultedyeti712 because that’s a aspect of emotions…. Did you even go to school? Like that’s basic shit. Emotions like Hate, Anger and jealousy for example are all Normal emotions that is normal for a person to feel. However any extreme of those emotions can lead to committing various crimes or bad things. Either from a lack of control over your emotions, a persons upbringing or because your mind is just twisted. But normally it’s a result of the first 2. To remove such possible “extremes” you’d have to remove those emotions from a person which is already a highly unethical and disgusting to do. After all by removing such emotions your limiting a persons range of emotions and feelings. Along with their ability to freely think. However I’m not gonna argue with a religious brain dead fanatic who can’t understand what’s normal and that by removing that your removing a person’s ability to make a choice. Whether good or bad. So I’m not responding again.

[@nat6lbg440]

It's amazing to realize how the punishment of God is actually the consequences and the aftermath of our sins.

[@chrisway7113]

Very interesting. Understanding ‘hardening Pharoe’s heart’ as ‘strengthening Pharoe’s heart’ is very enlightening.

[@SimpleCivil]

Revisionist history. A lot of mental gymnastics to change the narrative.

[@davidheaton6206]

Maybe this means more a firming up type of hardening. Like a muscle becoming strong and firm

[@chrisway7113]

@@davidheaton6206 Yes, I think you are right. That makes sense.

[@simonjohnwright5129]

It made Pharaoh more stubborn. Strengthened his stubborness, his ego, his heart. Hardened his heart means exactly the same thing.

[@daniell5740]

No it doesn't lol

[@Vincemaster2007]

I feel smarter just by listening to these guys

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

There are millions of people online that make us all feel smarter. Unfortunately, most of them are the fools found in the comment sections that make us all feel smarter by just not being them. 😋

[@Genocide2024]

​@@illbeyourmonster1959ok smarty pants 😊

[@m998hmmv]

Reflective of an intrinsic moral order… wow. So true.

[@aaronmays4355]

Great conversation! Dr. Prager's two cents on observance of the Sabbath was what I took the most from.

[@SkyKingAzure]

Did you observe the Sabbath = Did you observe the Rest that He has given to you?

[@leechamael4595]

What bout sunday, westie?? Ohh...really funny people 🤣🤣

[@br.m]

These old farts are insane and evil.

[@jeffreyjohnston2445]

WhAt did you take away? That he picks and chooses what part of the law to observe? The punishment for missing the sabbath is death by stoning.

[@br.m]

Judaizers

[@itsaakashmate]

The idea of judgement being consequences and choices is beautiful way of looking at it. Lot of the Hindu spiritual leaders try to say the same. But people have to understand that in practice this is not how people think about it.

[@robertmccully2792]

That make sense, so much better when they read a verse and examine it, rather that examining a word out of context/ or not from a verse.

[@christianalthoff1112]

Seeing grown men discuss supernatural beings is always good for a laugh. I find it hard to envision the leaps of logic necessary to have faith in the divine.

[@timh8324]

I also think that suffering is a tool of God - I know that He wants us to rely on Him. A lot of times it is suffering that drives us to Him. If life is easy we do not go to Him. So will more people rely on and come to Him because life is tough?

[@davidheaton6206]

It is necessary part of the Christian life

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

Unfortunately, that is one of the primary tools that narcissists use to keep you under their control.

[@hookoffthejab1]

@@illbeyourmonster1959 God subjected his own completely innocent son to immense suffering in order to redeem his own enemies from their sin, and give them eternal life. Is that something a narcissist would do?

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

@@hookoffthejab1 As in sentence the innocent to pay for the actions of the guilty? Are you cracked? YES, that is what narcissists do all the time. It's one of their top actions.

[@hookoffthejab1]

@@illbeyourmonster1959 there's some theological nuance to this that completely changes how you view this scenario, so hopefully this context will help you understand the significance. Jesus and the father are the same being, but not the same person. That alone could be expounded upon for days, but in this situation what you need to understand is Jesus voluntarily gives his life for his people, and the father asks Jesus to give his life for his people. So despite them being distinct persons, they have a perfectly harmonious will. It's not that the father subjected poor unwilling Jesus to suffering for no reason, Jesus voluntarily took on a human body so he could live among his creation, experience the same sufferings they did, and willingly gave his life for them. And remember, Jesus IS God. So I'll restate the question, was Jesus being narcissistic when he died for people who hate him?

[@awayinministry]

God never messes with free will

[@morganclare4704]

DID JONAH HAVE ANY CHOICE??? cheers

[@awayinministry]

Yes cheers

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

Yeah, he really does and he does it everywhere. He just doesn't do it directly anymore.

[@awayinministry]

@@illbeyourmonster1959 No God doesnt' this is very simple look at yur comment it is a contradition lol

[@awayinministry]

@@illbeyourmonster1959 God does not touch free will ever hardening pharohs heart is a defilement of the Bible and even your Spirit knows it look at your post lol hy heart

[@vaughnrees8908]

Strengthening can mean a lot of things including hardening. It can mean I'm closed minded. I've strengthened my heart to believe even if it's wrong. Prager and Peterson are experts at manipulating language.

[@br.m]

No they are not. They get away with this because there are a lot of low intelligence desperate people out there. These men are mediocre con artists in a world full of brain damaged people one notch above tik tok addiction.

[@jeffreyjohnston2445]

I agree, the text in English still holds true.

[@life.re-defined]

It says, in other places prior to this, that the pharaoh hardened his heart, so in the passage that says God harden pharaohs heart, it was just in, revealing the glory of God, and the power of God that pharaohs will turned away

[@richtripp2G]

The best and simplest explanation I've heard of the Lord hardening of Pharaohs heart, is this, "the same sun that melts wax hardens clay".

[@cavscout62]

The World is so Blessed that God sent Christ to take all of our sins upon himself, giving us the Free Will to either Accept or Reject his Sacrifice as we are not humanly capable of earning a place in his presence.

[@schlussmitschiss]

The last remark: goodness has its intrinsic rewards, just as wrongdoing has its intrinsic punishment. 😮🤔🤯

[@belodrin3550]

a truthteller who's castrated for being a truth teller can certainly attest to the rewards of doing good, sure.

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

@@belodrin3550 He who exposes and fights evil the hardest gets punished the worst.

[@belodrin3550]

@@illbeyourmonster1959 But he is doing goodness and that's his reward? What if he is punished for the rest of his days after being a trutheller, 30 years ongoing lets say, and then gets into heaven, where there's no mention of free will and we simply become God Simps with no relations to anything else but him? You find that a good goal to have in life?

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

@@belodrin3550 I take it that basic reading skills are not your strong point? I'm agreeing with you. Not arguing.

[@belodrin3550]

@@illbeyourmonster1959 you didn't say anything a religious person would not say...at best they would just add that the reward to follow the excruciating punishment is worth it.

[@jmcclain8237]

While evil may and does cause despair, heartache, anger, and an array of other emotions.. The enemy doesn't want or can't understand that GOD is in control. All things work for good regardless of the hardships we endure. Submitting to the Lord most definitely will bring you trouble however, if you persevere and understand, your salvation will bring you a peace that can not be compared to anything else.

[@Firstgenamerican21]

That seems false. Children raised by disgusting people that do horrible things to them until they’re adults then sell them or kill them I’m sure would be overjoyed they were made to go through that pain then off the hell.

[@Emma-cy9lp]

The peace I feel as a non believer is unimaginable

[@maximuschibuike1564]

​@@Emma-cy9lpWhat do you care for the most on this earth? Just answer....and I will show you that your peace is not enough.

[@Emma-cy9lp]

@@maximuschibuike1564 I do not care for anything the most. I only care about spending every second of my life intentionally. So you tell me...?

[@maximuschibuike1564]

If you want to live the rest of your life intentionally, it means that you enjoy the things of the earth and therefore you are attached to it. And if that is the case, then you are afraid of death at any time because you don't know were you will go from there. So right now as I am speaking, you feel like you are at peace because you think you are complete control of your life. But you are wrong, many people have had that feeling and they died like flies. And in their moment of death they had no PEACE because they were so much invested in the things that the earth has to offer. So the sensations of peace you feel now, it just temporal. Because you will definitely lose it in moments of death. In that moment you lack control, which is what you find as peace. You will be shocked how restless you will be. But when you submit to God, you will be guided through a consecration process that will teach you to detach yourself from the things of this world. Once that is achieved, you would have conquered death. Because God will give a peace that surpasses human understanding. You would not be afraid of anything even death. Surrender to God today Emma....Stay Blessed🙏

[@kymanijohann435]

Very beautiful conversation.

[@peteperkins3859]

A round table of worldly wisdom talking about things they don't understand.

[@betrayyed]

True. The occasional nuggets of truth they accidentally unearth are then mishandled and kept to a surface level of understanding.

[@ronnier5349]

This is how you come to understand: by talking and thinking through things. No one understands all things immediately. As the Ethiopian said to Philip: "How can I know unless someone tells me?" Or something along those lines.

[@bravehome4276]

We must all remember that the Bible clearly states not all evil is punished in this lifetime, nor is all good rewarded. Look to Jesus' parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man in Luke 16:19-31, and Jesus statement in John 16:33. It's a frequent mistake to presume God will judge evil in our earthly lifetime so we can see that judgment. There will be judgment (Acts 24:15, 2 Cor 5:10), but God may choose to withhold this until we pass into the next (and eternal) life. He has a plan and does not want to see the wicked perish if there is a chance they'll repent (Ezekiel 33:11) I'd rather be assured of my reward in eternity than witness the wicked judged here on earth. For such was I before my salvation.

[@ACloudWithoutAir]

The lord hardened the pharaohs heart.... One could interpret it as. The Pharaoh's thought of yahweh made his heart hardened. Or that God created the pharaoh with the capacity to be bitter hard. As such, a ruler typically has. God created us to be who we are. We didn't have the free will to born into this world and into who we are. I didn't choose to be depressed or lonely. But these are elements upon my soul engraved in me. Burdens. Trials handed to me by the Lord. It is what the Pharaoh did out of his hard and strong heart that determines that he has free will. Jordan peterson teaches there is an insanity behind the idea of having flawless freedom to choose literally absolutely anything. We are flawed creatures and we can only choose so many road paths in our lives. I only have so many Characteristics about myself. The more complex a person you are in your thoughts and feelings, the more you struggle to come to conclusion using your free will. Free will is only in the confines of logic. God's free will is incomprehensibly more intricate than ours. You have the free will to live, or die. Those are bound by basic human logic of the material world. God's free will goes beyond just those two options. Hence how he died and was raised again, and then ascended to heaven.

[@richardgarner2510]

You can't have a front without a back or an up without a down, its built in but its us who lets the evil happen...

[@scottdevitte4209]

God let's bad thing happen, Petersons existence proves his point.

[@godzeustemple-anthonybell2651]

God stores up the punishment of the wicked for their children.’(AD) Let him repay the wicked, so that they themselves will experience it.

[@kenhaidarrell150]

I believe that the consequence of missing the Sabbath is greater than that.

[@melvinhunt6976]

Free Will is just that! God has given us His Word , an instruction book for us all ! Unfortunately, that free will can get in the way. Once you meet the Savior, the instructions are easier to follow!

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

No, not really. God will direct you where he wants you even if he has to destroy your life though the direct actions of evil people. When he wants you somewhere he will drag you there kicking and screaming even if you can't see his will doing it directly. My life is in a very dark place and I can see where it ends. I have fought and prayed for a way out but every time I think I found one, something impossible happens to keep that avenue from being taken and I am forced ever further down this dark path toward the end I do not want to be a part of.

[@melvinhunt6976]

@@illbeyourmonster1959 You have gone wherever you wanted to go! He had Nothing to do with you going places you wanted that he wouldn’t approve of! Can’t blame God for your short comings !

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

@@melvinhunt6976 He deliberately or accidentally built them into me. So yea I can. I have an engineering background and have built stuff all my life and I never blame my creations for failing to do what I wanted them to do. Their failure comes down to either my having screwed up on the design somehow. it them being pushed way past what they were designed to do. Also, I do not hinder my lawnmower from mowing the lawn when it's called on to do it.

[@domesday1535]

simple materials science, to harden is to strengthen. But, if you harden anything you also make it more brittle. So this line about God hardening Pharoh's heart says that it's strengthening his will but also raising the stakes for his choices. If his will is soft it might just squish some putty, but with a hardened will the wrong choice will shatter him

[@glendagaskin151]

Thank you for your kind comments. Just grow in His Holy Word. Share with your wife and grow in your faith. Many are praying for you. Until you get to Paul Jesus came to Israel His people and they denied Him. He took Paul to Mr. Sianai for 3 years to be taught by THE MASTER. DON’T worry that you won’t have all the answers. You are dealing with THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. JUST WORSHIP HIM AND HE WILL HEAR. THANK YOU FOR SHARING AND MAY THE LORD USE YOU MIGHTILY FOR HIS KINGDOM. A SISTER IN CHRIST.

[@paulaljouny230]

Without evil there is no good and without good there is no evil .

[@parody12345]

Not many understand this, you can gain knowledge of good only if you have something to compare it to. If the bad doesnt exists, than good can not exist either, because our understanding of it is based on experiencing at least two experiences which are different. And the need for different means, that if people know good, it is because they know bad too, and vice versa.

[@Pj-fm7oe]

This is completely false. Satan made the same argument. Adam and Eve were just fine before they rebelled, they had the best possible life. "Knowing bad" ruined it for them and for us their children. Why don't the angels need to suffer to understand good? They are created perfect in heaven with no sinful tendency, no pain and death, do they not understand what is good?

[@paulaljouny230]

@@Pj-fm7oe and that is the sin . We now know evil . Remember before then we were living in gods grace . Adam and Eve we’re gonna live for eternity until they ate the apple . Adam lived close to 1000 years . But remember no one can live to 1000 years because that’s seems to be a day in Gods eyes I’m not sure

[@Pj-fm7oe]

@@paulaljouny230 A day to God is like a thousand years, it does say that ya. So Adam and Eve would have lived forever if yhey would have obeyed, without bad, good would have continued just fine with no need for bad at all. Satan wanted them to think they were missing out, that something necessary was being withheld. Satan lied. Good does not require bad.

[@paulaljouny230]

@@Pj-fm7oe I said evil not bad

[@concealed2.0]

Thank you

[@themoroccanangel]

Remember, The Judgment of "missing the Sabbath" is the Judgment the CREATOR gave it (Exodus 32:13-15,KJV), not a man's "dictum on the Sabbath"

[@fernandosouzasoares734]

Awesome!

[@Critter145]

Fascinating. Peterson is so close to becoming a Christian.

[@Firstgenamerican21]

Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light and create darkness. I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.” Sounds like there is no free will. He made each person, one to have themself forced upon and the other to force themself upon the person. So how can there be free will if an unstoppable force made one to do something? Further, how can crime be truly punished if God made one specifically to do that crime? This would, however, explain the story in the Vatican’s Apocrypha section that allegedly has a letter from Paul saying everyone goes to heaven. So many things the church doesn’t want to explain for one reason or another.

[@williamjohnsoniii338]

The Lord allows people to make their own choices because thats what life is about. Its about having the choice to choose and God wants us to choose Him, but we have the ability to choose otherwise. Evil is allowed cause God will never take away our ability to choose. There must be opposition because theres a balance, options. Never just one path.

[@MrRaposaum]

I wonder if someone would convince Daniel Prager to accurately translate the Old Testament books from Hebrew to English. It would be a great service to all of us.

[@ur-cb8xo]

This really sucks to hear for people who are unfortunate in life, who are treated unfairly. Even though they did nothing wrong they make it sound like they deserved to get punished. Reminds me of Jesus who was crucified although he was a good guy

[@vladgor4099]

Jesus wasn't just a good guy. He was completely sinless. Other people who you might perceive as Good, and yet have sinned have to die because the price for sin is death. That's why Jesus died for us so that we may be redeemed otherwise we all, small or great, deserve to go to hell...

[@jerometaperman7102]

Because there is no one in control.

[@buzzbbird]

I have said for 30+ years that the hardening of Pharaoh's heart meant to make it strong. Strong enough to resist the pressure that God was putting upon him. But what say, "harden"? Well, most people have zero clue as to the prerequisites for hardening what happens during hardening and the consequences thereof. 1. The thing to be hardened must be in the final shape desired. After hardening, you cannot change it. 2. Hardening something makes it much stronger. 3. Hardening makes the thing brittle. Why it is a good term and point of view? 1. If Pharaoh would have just submitted, God would not be shown and his greatness would not have traveled around that known world. 2. Th Egyptians could have despised Pharaoh for giving in, claiming that, "Pharaoh is weak! I would not have given in!" 3. The entire nation cried out to let them God, for the God of Israel cannot be fought against. even their own King suffered the same fate as the lowliest Egyptian. His gods, his position, his military were nothing before this God of Gods! There is not one iota of Calvinistic 'sovereignty' (which they deceitfully define as absolute control) taught here.

[@Jung-k5h]

Among the Jewish sages, there is a story, that says, when God came into being, his presence was so overwhelming that nothing else could exist. Only by withdrawing most of his presence were things were able to come into being. Shadows provided definition and thus the universe as we know became. Shadows and darkness are needful for our universe and for life, and things that exist in the shadow and darkness also live alongside life that belongs to light. Seek the light!

[@VFXShawn]

No Jewish sages worth their salt would ever say God came into being, God is understood as eternal, and creating everything that was created. The view you are articulating is more Greek in nature.

[@myopinion4920]

Thank you for bringing God,s word closer to me. Jordan we need this WORD back in the schools , the world would be a much better place to live in.

[@c.galindo9639]

Sweet. Hmm. This really gives a lot of profound insight into how complex our existence truly is. It is a whole manifestation of life made by what we feed into. Very fascinating stuff

[@scottsponaas]

Without free will, love and worship would be meaningless and empty. God is not looking for pre-programmed robots to run the programs he put in them, he made us for love and His glory. The thing about glory, is that it requires free will. Imagine a musician who wants to get glory by putting on a concert. Would he get more glory out of a concert hall full of people who all paid top dollar to see him and cheer for him, or a concert hall full of robots that are programmed to clap and cheer?

[@genadiivanov784]

Well the musician didn't threaten to torture them if they didn't go to his concert.

[@scottsponaas]

@@genadiivanov784 the people who chose not to go to his concert have instead started a riot outside the concert hall and will all be receiving the just punishment for their error. The musician was nice enough to put on the concert for those who would rather peacefully unite rather than vandalize and tear down the city.

[@scottsponaas]

@@genadiivanov784 you really thought you were on to something here didn’t you? 🤣

[@genadiivanov784]

@@scottsponaas ''The musician was nice enough to put on the concert for those who would rather peacefully unite rather than vandalize and tear down the city.''And again if you don't go to the concert to boost his ego he will torture you.

[@mikefreeman5053]

Interesting what was said about missing the Sabbath. Similarly, the worst part about hell is not the tortures, pain or horrors but the absence of God.

[@Pj-fm7oe]

There is no hell in the Bible just death. Where does it say the separation from God bit?

[@mikefreeman5053]

@@Pj-fm7oe (1) Everyone will exist eternally either in heaven or hell (Daniel 12:2,3; Matthew 25:46; John 5:28; Revelation 20:14,15). Second Thessalonians 1:7-9 says that those who do not know God “will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might”

[@Pj-fm7oe]

@@mikefreeman5053 1. Only the obedient will be given everlasting life (John 3:16). Daniel 12:2,3 is talking about the resurrection. "many of those asleep in the dust of the earth will wake up" they are dead and brought back to life (Acts 24:15). Those that don't change and obey are ultimately destroyed forever, thus everlasting reproach and contempt. Matthew 25:46 "These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” The word used is the same for pruning, so cutting-off is more accurate. But even punishment doesn't have to mean torture, destruction is absolutely punishment. John 5:28 Again this is the resurrection, judgment for those who do not obey. They will not be allowed to ruin things for everyone else. Revelation 20:15 says that they are thrown into the lake of fire, what is that? 14 explains that it represents second death. "the lake of fire. This means (or is) the second death" so the lake is symbol for a type of death, second death is death with no hope of resurrection. Unlike death inherited from Adam where a resurrection is still possible. Also of note is that in verse 14 "death and hades" are thrown into the lake as well, that is death and the grave, hell is a mistranslation. How do you torture a place (grave) and the end of life (death)? It's not possible, but they can suffer second death in other words be destroyed. Hell is absent from this entirely. Also none of these say anything about existing eternally in heaven. When Jesus promised a heavenly reward it was to those in a covenant with him, not mankind in general. The purpose for man is to live on earth as in the beginning, that is where the vast majority of the resurrected will be, on earth (memorial tombs are not in heaven). 2. This verse literally says eternal destruction. A destroyed thing or person is of course separated from God as well as everything else. They are gone permanently. To say it means just separation alone is to ignore what it explains plainly. Right now we are all born into rebellion and separated from God in a very real sense, that's why we need a mediator in Jesus. We don't have to be punished further for a separation that already exists.

[@guidosarducci1943]

synonymous with steel, heart of Iron

[@Rievven]

The Gnostic explanation of evil seems like a stronger explanation for evil than the arguments here.

[@UV-mu9ox]

That’s exactly the point…

[@mtmmaak7]

you are what you do. you do what you are.

[@saxon8981]

Nu uh

[@riveny1066]

So cool! This is listening in on philosophs' Bible studies and checking against my understanding of the Word. I am making sure I subscribe to this one!

[@br.m]

These men are evil though. They don't even make sense. They say God gave Pharaoh free will then they say God locked it in. That is not free will. And the word "harden" and "strengthen" are not interchangeable in this instance. These men are a little too smart to be so easily confused. Obviously they are lying to you. This is no place to learn about the Bible or check yourself.

[@environmentalnews6040]

If everyone was that moral, we would live in a perfect society where everyone drove the speed limit.

[@garycombs5721]

Good things happen to bad people because it’s the goodness of God that leads us to repentance. Bad things happen to good people for a number of reasons. 1) overcoming evil helps us to better purify the nature of our characters in order to become more Christlike. 2) overcoming evil helps us to better understand what Christ did for us through his suffering at the cross. 3) perhaps most importantly, and being something that few Christians have ever come to understand, is that overcoming evil in this world will provide us with our future frame of reference by which to never take heaven for granted. You see Lucifer and the other angels were created in heaven and never knew of any other type of existence apart from Heaven, meaning that they later chose to rebel against heaven because their lack of experience prevented them from having any frame of reference by which to compare and contrast the goodness of heaven with. Had God created mankind in Heaven first, without experiencing the evils of this world, then we too would have eventually rebelled against heaven just as Lucifer and the other angels had previously done. Or in other words, God intentionally placed us in a world in which evil exists by which to act as our foundational frame of reference by which to forever Compare and contrast the goodness of heaven with in order that we would never again rebel as Lucifer and the other angels had previously done.

[@JohnTwarowski]

"There is nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so" wrote Shakespeare. Perhaps those blind leaders of the blind would be kind enough to explain this one, which is an origin of sin, good bad, right wrong, duality, division hence, human dilemma.

[@jessewallace12able]

Could not be happier that I let this go.

[@jeffreyjohnston2445]

When Dennis misses the Sabbath where does he sacrifice for that jewish sin?

[@Pj-fm7oe]

Under the law he would only live to regret it once

[@jeffreyjohnston2445]

@@Pj-fm7oe yeah I forgot that part! Stoned to death!

[@adammac4960]

So we can learn

[@JoviBootlegs90]

God lets bad things happen because he keeps his word on letting humans have free will, therefore, that doesn't mean we must let or ignore evil

[@WillCarter1976]

Atheists love to quote Epicurus's riddle. This understanding of the nature of being and God eviscerates the secular understanding of moral origins, reducing it almost to an infantile level of understanding about human nature and the nature of morality.

[@BenEehayeh]

In strengthening the heart, what was the existent state? Did the Pharaoh relent, softening his heart, offering to let the people go? Exodus 9:28 I will let you go, and you shall stay no longer. This means the Pharaoh, whose heart was hardened against the people, had a change of heart, softened, to let them go. But God told Moses, no, I will strengthen the pharaohs heart. If the pharaohs heart is soft and God strengthens the heart in the other direction, He is hardening the heart.

[@melissapiontek3886]

Why is Ben not on this panel I love Dennis’ insight about Shabbat ❤

[@aurelius1964]

no mention of the Greek translation from the Hebrew as σκληρύνω in the Septuagint, which is also 'harden'; this might also be read as 'firming up' or 'strengthening'. The Patristic tradition of the Church is overwhelmingly one of the essential freedom of Man to respond to God's call..or not obviously!

[@scottlownsdale8355]

The meaning of God’s hardening the heart of Pharaoh means EXACTLY what it says, according to the apostle Paul in Romans 9:14-18, in his case to prove the doctrine of sovereign grace and election through Christ.

[@FirstLast-qw7gh]

Yet Prager is not wrong in saying it means 'strengthen' in Exodus 9:12 either, and the strengthening of a heart can be to toughen it's surface... ergo harden. Free Will and Election are not contrary.

[@jamesworley9888]

I think God might just be a little bit SMARTER than paul is even if that is the case.

[@FirstLast-qw7gh]

@@jamesworley9888 Paul isn't at odds with God, he is simply one person that God is speaking through. As the Apostle Peter puts it, "He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction." (2 Peter 3:16) Note that Peter speaks of 'the other Scriptures', thus clearly putting Paul in the same category... as part of the Word of God.

[@jamesworley9888]

​@@FirstLast-qw7gh Really doesn't matter because you missed the point. The Entire book could be BS and my point still stands, your point on the other hand is based on the credibility of the book which really doesn't matter to me. I serve a God far greater than a nation, far greater than a single planet, and far greater than a single galaxy. If you're trying to get to the bottom of every single bottom line secret in the Bible with the level of consciousness used on this realm than you would be waiting for hell to freeze over.

[@FirstLast-qw7gh]

@@jamesworley9888 I serve the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whose Word is fulfilled and made flesh in Jesus. Beside Him, there is no other God.

[@KevinGolden-y9n]

Sounds like the same thing to me if you consider what happened after his heart was strengthened. The Sabath is a person. Christ himself is the Sabbath.

[@ThundermansThunder]

Exactly, our Sabbath, our peace, is only complete, lacking nothing, when we are indwelled with the Holy Spirit of Jesus, the Christ, that we receive upon spiritual rebirth in the blood of Jesus, to receive His own righteousness, as our own. There, simply, is no true Sabbath, apart from Jesus. I am just so very thankful, that we need never know and lament the absence of God's presence, which would come and go, as did the old testament saints, once we have been born again, so that we can Sabbath in Him, every moment of every day, for the rest of eternity!

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

Christ is not the Sabbath, as He clearly stated in Mar. 2 that He is the Lord of the Sabbath. Does that mean ppl should read it as Him saying He is Lord of Himself? It's ridiculous. Christ did not become a day, and it's intellectually dishonest and absurd to contend that it happened.

[@ThundermansThunder]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Of course, Jesus did not become a day, but the sabbath day was created for us to enter into God's rest. It was always about God's rest, not just the day, itself. God's Holy Spirit did not dwell within individuals during the old testament days of law, as He does in the hearts of born again believers, today, in the days of grace. The sabbath day was originally set apart for the Israelites to enter into the temple where God's presence dwelt, to enter into God's rest. As born again believers in Christ, this is no longer necessary, because of what Jesus did on the cross of Calvary. When Jesus died, as the perfect blood sacrifice as propitiation for our sin, He became our high priest. When we are born again in His blood, His own Holy Spirit enters and dwells within us, making us His temple, and He has promised to never leave nor forsake us. This is the Sabbath rest that we carry with us, and that we labor to enter, when we choose to focus our attention on Him, to spend time with Him in His Word and in prayer, or just to simply be aware of His presence, within us. This can be done anytime, anywhere, so we are no longer limited to a specific day, PRAISE THE LORD!!! There simply is no sabbath rest apart from Jesus. He is Lord of the Sabbath, because He IS the Sabbath Rest! (See also Matthew 12:1-50, which is too long to list here.) Mark 2:27-28 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Hebrews 4 1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. 8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. 12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. 14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. 15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

[@J040PL7]

The strengthened is to make sure the pharoh didn't make a decision out of weakness, that would mean God would show less of his wonders.

[@peterwebb8732]

Pharaoh followed his will, not his fears. He could perhaps have been frightened into compliance, but a man who is only “good” because he is afraid, is still evil in his heart.

[@proviah4770]

REPENT, FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND. Lord Jesus✝️have mercy on you✝️ Do NOT allow ANY evil in your life; allow ONLY good in your life ALWAYS FOR THE GLORY OF GOD. REFUSE THE EVIL, AND CHOOSE THE GOOD ALWAYS. LORD JESUS✝️ HELP YOU🙏

[@vaughnrees8908]

"The God Myth: Humanity's Empty Cry" In a world where myths and legends bind, We seek the God we've crafted in our mind. Before the tapestry of humankind, We ask, "O God, why do you hide behind?" "Why cloak yourself in veils of mystery, When pain and strife taint our history? If you are mighty, just, and all-knowing, Why let the winds of evil keep blowing?" We fall to our knees, hearts filled with plea, Begging for clarity, hoping to see. For answers to why shadows persist, In a world you've claimed, by light, exists. "Why stand aloof? Why not intervene? Is there some purpose that remains unseen? If love is your essence, as tales have told, Why do we witness horrors unfold?" Yet silence remains, no voice from the sky, No burning bush, no angelic reply. Only the echo of our own quest, Searching for solace, longing for rest. Perhaps the answers lie not above, But in our acts of kindness and love. In challenging evil, choosing the right, Becoming beacons in the darkest night. For in the end, our myths may but be, Reflections of our hopes, our plea. But let us not wait for the divine, To seek the good and let our lights shine. Vaughn Rees 2021

[@talongreenlee7704]

I understood it very differently. The way I saw it, God hardened Pharaoh’s heart to make a point. He knew that it would take the tenth plague to break Pharaoh, but he did the other nine plagues to make a point. When you’re dealing with evil people, there’s the temptation to think that you could just talk to them and they’ll see how right you are and change their ways. Pharaoh didn’t budge for famine, drought, boils, the Nile turning to blood, fire and ice raining from the sky, or the sun going dark. If he’s not going to budge for any of that, it should be obvious that just talking to him isn’t going to do any good.

[@GamePlayuh9510]

Whether or not that's the true point, it's a good one. A lot of more modern media will either portray the slaying of an evil as you being just as wicked, or that evil person/thing, getting off "easy" because they don't pay for what they did. Some people are just beyond salvation, and incapable of remorse. Leaving them alive is akin to releasing a ravenous lion into a preschool.

[@br.m]

@@GamePlayuh9510 So you think the evil, dangerous men in this video should be killed.

[@GamePlayuh9510]

@@br.m Who in the video is an evil or dangerous man? More importantly, why?

[@br.m]

@@GamePlayuh9510 I don't know their names. I quit watching the video after 3 of the men spoke. It is a boring video, they are dummies. Waste of time irrelevant fogeys rubbing each others egos. Peterson is evil and dangerous, that demoniac is a vile snake. A demoniac in Bilbo Baggins clothing. If it is not apparent to you, sorry. I guess if you are average intelligence, then a room full of men like these ordinary men, could outsmart you. Unfortunately I have been cursed with intelligence and an IQ much higher than any of these men, so they immediately are revealed to me.

[@br.m]

@@GamePlayuh9510 By your own standards, you can't be left alive. You will die the second death.

[@Isidronoscu]

what is good and evil? just words for what is good for some it may be evil for others and what is evil for some may be good for others.

[@jonjamj3056]

We must allow evil? No!, We must separate from it. You will know them by there fruit.

[@billbouzalas5720]

The text says " hardened" meaning the no longer present grace of the holy spirit. Thys his heart went back to his own condition, a hard heart..

[@billbrock8547]

In Exodus 10:1-2 God tells us that the plagues were a demonstration, "-- so that you may know that I am the Lord." Exodus 9 doesn't address the question of why God lets bad things happen, unless it's to show us that He is the Lord. And God's gift of free will explains our behaviour, but offers no insight into God's motives for what He does or allows.

[@GRWelsh7]

This slight alteration to a more accurate translation from 'harden' to 'strengthen' is fine, but I think they overstate how much of an effect that has on the reading. If God strengthened Pharaoh's heart, that could still be interpreted as God meddling with free will (Ex. "If God hadn't strengthened Pharaoh's heart, Pharaoh may have relented or changed his mind").

[@Pj-fm7oe]

The thing that is missed is how did he harden his heart? Was it supernatural? Or did the circumstances of suffering plagues and being humiliated in front of his own people time and time again cause him to become more stubborn?

[@Callummullans]

Really should revise the translations seeing as it’s so much easier to do so nowadays

[@VFXShawn]

The idea of God "hardening" or "strengthening" Pharoah's resolve to challenge God actually sheds some light on another biblical figure. Pharoah was adorned with the king cobra as his symbol, the serpent, holding the Jews captive as Satan does the world through sin and death. Understanding Pharoah helps us to understand Satan; do you ever wonder how did a beautiful angel who was made to be good, become the epitome of wickedness? Surely we would not say God is responsible for Satan's current fallen condition, but we can imagine that God "hardened" or "strengthened" Satan's resolve to oppose God through various means. It was Pharoah/Satan's plan to thwart the purposes of God and keep His people captive in Egypt\sin\death, God brought them out to the promised land, eternal life, which infuriated Satan/Pharoah. The more God opposes Satan/Pharoah, the more they are enraged and seek to destroy those who God set free from their reign of terror. John 8:36. “So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”

[@meme5478]

By Paul didn't give free will to the people who asked why GOD hardened his heart? Strengthen is the same thing in a way. When you stregthen something that's making it hard. It's not soft but has been made hard or harder. Paul gave an answer that GOD can choose to do whatever HE likes with HIS creation. I haven't seen free will in the Bible. Man comes up with this to keep from feeling less powerful. I don't think anyone truly has a monopoly on what GOD did or why? Everyone is interpreting scriptures the best their human mind can unless GOD gives the Revelation. Even then how are we 100% that it was GOD who gave it to us. i'm sure it's many things we are doing wrong because we interpret the WORD to mean this when it's stating that. GOD causes & allow events to take place that has NOTHING to do with a person having a choice about the matter. GOD says HE has the kings heart in HIS hand. That alone says a lot.

[@WtfReal]

Can someone explain to me this. If God knows our future and every decision we will make and where we will end up do we really have free will?

[@awayinministry]

If GOD TOUCHES ANY FREE WILL IT MUST BE ALL

[@ryandalion8379]

Of course we have free will! The big guy says we do!

[@gangsterboy3664]

I just read Hardening of the heart as The heart was restricted from second guessing itself so the opinion was from the hearts pulls to the conscious

[@kelaarin]

Sheesh...thousands of years later, and we're STILL debating "The Problem of Evil."

[@davepugh2519]

God doesn't let bad things happen. Bad things just happen - along with good things. No god required.

[@1Infeqaul1]

God gave you all free will. It is humanity who allows evil to be evil. Cowardice inaction. Humanity chose to be evil. If the true God desired authority, none of you would even exist. For Only evil desires authority.

[@endofdaysprophet]

Just wanted to add. When the Pharaohs heart was hardened that means IT WAS NOT MOVED as in he had no sympathy!!!

[@stephenwlodarczyk175]

Even the translation of judgment is more accurate to say he is the governor over all.

[@nickmajora]

It's interesting how they get so close to talking about karma without actually mentioning it. It's also interesting how free will must be such an absolute good that it's worth the suffering that comes from it. This is hard to fathom.

[@radscorpion8]

...please don't believe it just because they say it :P. It could easily be the case, and its very likely the case, that the majority of the bible is fiction, especially when its filled with so many absurd moments like God flooding the planet and telling Noah to build a zoo-boat filled with 2 of every animal. That is just ridiculous. Or when he turns a lady into a pillar of salt because she looked back on Sodom and Gomorrah instead of leaving lol. Not to mention the burning alive of thousands of women and children in those cities, to name just a few atrocities in the bible. Like its just absurd that people are even studying this book which is clearly a work of fiction. Its not worth anyone's study. Its just some crazy nonsense people from the bronze ages passed down through stories for literally centuries until someone eventually wrote it down. And also the whole idea of free will being the reason for suffering is extremely old and inadequate Christian apologetics ANYWAY. It does nothing to argue against the presence of natural evil, such as babies being born with horrible deformities, no skin, or Horton's syndrome aka cluster headaches that are so painful that most people who have them commit suicide by the time they turn 20. None of that is answered by "free will", and the only answer ever provided is "God works in mysterious ways" which is a complete and utter joke. Its more hard to fathom why people take it all seriously in the first place. Its bronze age superstitious nonsense, just like Zeus, just like Thor, and the entire pantheon of ancient Gods. Atheists just go one God further than the ridiculous Christian tradition, and its time we all woke up from living under superstitious mysticism. How's that for an intellectual discourse

[@kreuzrittergottes9336]

karma isnt real so why talk about it...

[@nickmajora]

@@kreuzrittergottes9336 Karma is the consequences of your actions which is what they're talking about here.

[@schauseil187]

if there is no free will you are enslaved. thats not love. bible says god wants to be in a relationship with the human (connect with them as a family). you dont break the will of the ones you love.

[@dburns9080]

@@nickmajora The consequences of your actions comes from God, not some nebulous universal concept. Hebrews 12: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? If you are not saved, consequences are supposed to help correct you to lead you to the Lord. Writing it off as cosmic balance is just new age nonsense.

[@wardropper]

It would be more accurate to say we must try to see the sense in God allowing evil. Seriously, if everything was always taken care of for us and automatically served 'The Good', we could never have developed any self-consciousness because there would have been no need for it. Self consciousness is a gift, and although it comes at the price of pain, it also comes with the possibility of real knowledge - especially self-knowledge.

[@genadiivanov784]

That knowledge could have easily be given to us by god, without the need of suffering.After all he is omnipotent.

[@illbeyourmonster1959]

Unfortunately, the hypocrisy of God is easily seen by anyone if they just chose to look. We have free will until God wants us to do something, even if it is really bad in order to serve a higher purpose elsewhere later. Then we don't.

[@jesuslopez-fe7dv]

The simple factthat God can "strengthen" someone's heart that means that God has control over everybody and yet allows evil to happen. Does that sound like freewill?

[@virginiamorris92]

There are prayers to ask for the strengthening of our will. Sometimes our judgements are clouded. But if God clears the way than when the pharaoh makes a decision it’s really only him instead of perhaps being persuaded by others, influence of drugs/alcohol or anything else. Because if you make a choice that’s clouded it sometimes doesn’t count as a mortal sin unless you’re in full knowledge and control of yourself.