WHY DOES IT STUTTER SO MUCH? - HDD vs SSD - Wuthering Waves | RAM + PAGING FILE? | 11.ai

[@toruiwatobi1484]

I have an m.2 SSD and a GTX 1060 6GB VRAM and the game was experiencing heavy stuttering even on low settings. The stuttering completely went away when I switched from 2x4 GB RAM to 2x8 GB RAM and allowed the game to use as much of my VRAM as possible. My guess is that the game stutters a lot because my RAM was too low and the VRAM wasn't being fully utilized, so it kept using the disk's page file for the game which is why there is a huge amount of read/writes to the disk. The game stutters because its trying to wait for the disk read/writes to finish. It should be noted that read/writes on the page file are orders of magnitude slower compared to read/writes on the RAM (even if its an SSD, although that helps). Additionally, dual channeling your RAM also gives you a massive FPS boost. This game requires 16 GB of RAM at the minimum, so its better to use 2x8 GB RAM than 1x16 .

[@soulzyx]

Thanks for the explaination. But I'm running the game on dual channel 16GB DDR4 3000mhz RAM. Any ideas? Only changing drives worked for me.

[@soulzyx]

Ok, so I did more "research", I think the game does "access" the Disk's page file in some form or capacity, because when I disabled my page file on Windows. I saw my writes go down by 90%, 3mb/s to 300kb/s and some things "loaded" in quicker, but it did not fix the stuttering (happens exactly in my video). The worst thing is, if the game A) isn't running out of Memory, I saw on RTTS it's using 11 GB of 16GB then why would it be paging? VRAM is also only 3GB of 6GB. The game just decides to do what it wants inefficiently, despite with the resources it has, that sounds like poor optimisation to me. Anyway, I don't recommend anyone to either disable or limit the page file size (if you run out of memory programs will crash), but seeing it not write at 2mb/s for hours actually made me feel a bit comfortable for puting it back on my SSD. Funnily enough, with your information I went and looked it up and I found the "suggestion" on PubG, another game that is garbagely programmed. I guess we really can't do anything about it.

[@pierreshi6102]

@@soulzyx yes I think the optimization could be better, this and 7 days to die (I don't know if you ever heard of that game) are both optimized poorly. I was using 2x8 GB DDR4 2667mhz RAM and I would get constant stutters. Now switched to a 2x16 GB DDR4 3200mhz RAM and it's much better even though both of my games are on HDD drives. It still occasionally stutters and I would miss time a dodge or parry but it's very rare. In fact the performance went up so much I beat the Impermanence Heron difficulty 5 with scuffed level 70 characters. I'm going to be upgrading my laptop's C disk soon (m2 SSD) so that I can put my games on this disk and eliminate stuttering as much as possible.

[@zachary149]

Low gpu usage means cpu bottleneck. The game is cpu heavy

[@GenshinCouldNever97]

1060 gtx is very old and potato lol

[@Guesty1337]

Wuwa when im idle: 60 fps Wuwa when I move an inch: 10 fps

[@OkSear]

Same

[@Xandlerz]

frrr

[@ryozaki96]

Can't believe people complained about a translation mistake but not this

[@ruru1993]

They gotta fix this shit bro. I don't even have bad specs but playing the game feels like I'm watching someone go through a powerpoint presentation

[@tioklarus_chan291]

same like me my spec is good also i use all low graphic only 60 fps but nothing happens stuck and lag 😂😅i think they never fix this

[@industrialsocietyanditsfut2418]

The lag is still here rn bruh. I would be extremely happy if they fix this in the next update

[@suren2jz]

​@@industrialsocietyanditsfut2418yesterday the game runs 45+fps in max settings on my mobile, today i got 210mb update now the game perform shit like 10-25fps , my pc version also looks like 480p now😢

[@aligamingyt2228]

I mean this is the problem it stutters whenever I rotate my camera the game becomes screenshot in jinzhou lol

[@akashggez]

Same issue for me.

[@cappy6666]

its so annoying

[@david_ace]

it slutters a lot only when i join the world. after 1 or 2 minute it's alright

[@seanmoura4676]

bruh this is the same exact issue, i just dont mind it by now because i got myself a jiyan and his sword.. but seriously they need to add some things that can at least potentially lower some stutters like genshin LOL.

[@seanmoura4676]

one thing i noticed about their graphics settings.. it doesn't have a lot in it that's what makes it bad.

[@anagramhound]

Mobile players: I guess we just stutter forever.

[@ShadowLegacyStudio]

I'm pretty sure in Ver. 1.1 will improve this and fix this

[@ReaL-m7o]

Basically say Android Since all CBTs are done on IOS and PC platforms so yeah ,,wait untill hotfix ,,lets see how kuro cooks

[@fine2278]

Hopefully ​@@ShadowLegacyStudio

[@Syaga_]

Honestly, i just try it on the phone and its actually run quite well only stutter when doing ult. Other than that it runs fine, the graphic looks horrible tho on the lowest setting

[@anagramhound]

Quick update: Yep, mobile feels a lot better now, not perfect yet, but hopefully 1.1 will bring even better optimizations. As a PGR player, I have faith in Kuro ✌️

[@project8703]

Thank you SOOOOOOOO Much! downloading the game on my ssd fixed a ton of things i wanted to fix since the release, it made the game basically unplayable, including: long loading, no audio, crashing.. etc, this is the best tutorial i have seen, most of them were just "fixes" but this one is legit, Thank you! :)

[@iLunafreya]

I agree with you, it's likelihood optimisation problematic. If we recall back when CBT, not many people complained about frame-drop or stutters. I also guessing they proceed to updating faster to fix it asap, implement the data or set-up they used on CBT.

[@Akiee04]

didnt they switched to unreal engine 4 for no apparent reason? it was unity at first.

[@zalox12]

Yes. In cbt2 i never have any gps drop except city area​@@Akiee04

[@epicskrub730]

They really need to fix this issue on the 1.1 update. Don't have any storage remaining on my SSD so I have no choice but to play on HDD, but the stutter and load times are just 💀

[@hinoka2911]

So the game just said: "I prefer only super high end specs so others should go away". So kuro games just focus on optimizing for high end specs without considering there is medium and low spec exist (broke people, such as me). Bro thought everyone who has pc, laptop is using ssd now 💀

[@soulzyx]

Yes laptops come with boot SSDs now. If that's the case, the stutter most laptops proabbly don't' have to do with storage, but other things, like integrated graphics, low RAM, throttling.

[@helltanker19]

high-end specs still encounter stutter issue.

[@hinoka2911]

@@helltanker19 "super high end specs"

[@helltanker19]

@@hinoka2911 the guy with 4090 still encounter the stuttering issue. If that aint "super high end specs", idk what is *shrug*

[@hinoka2911]

​@@helltanker19well, that unexpected

[@Arashi257]

If this really is a game issue, then I hope they're able to fix this, cause I have no way of getting an SSD. In my case, I only have HDD's but the game stops stuttering after a few minutes of forcing the stutter through random quick movements, loading a bunch of stuff in the area by running around, and opening a few different menu screens,and then teleport to a far waypoint and running around there for a few seconds.

[@lightningflash15]

I'm using HDD, I've noticed it too when I first log on and the map is rendering my HDD become 100% read time when I open my task manager i see 3 more clients of WuWa , maybe the files is still post processing on the background after the big load.

[@leilavergerius9223]

you can play in HDD with no sutters?

[@lightningflash15]

@@leilavergerius9223 nope it's stuttering for about a min, what i do is I let my gpu render the map first.

[@JoeWildman1313]

​@@leilavergerius9223, lets just say it depends. I have WuWa on HDD myself and its always after loading game I need to run around about 3-5 minutes in heavy stuters before it loads all it needs and I can go do the things in 60 fps. And being in menu or something doesnt work, only running around for some time helps. After stutterfest its good.

[@xicario129]

Yes loading the game and then waiting it to render the world can take up to 10 mins or more. After that you can play the game with almost no stutters. But it won't perform as it should since. Hell I can even run Crysis maxxed out but not this lmao

[@soulzyx]

To those, that have multiple SSDs, try putting it on the one that's your boot drive (where Windows is installed to). Just realised, correction: those are bytes, so it's 65-130MB, not GB 😅 My HDD has a Read/write of 150/144mbs My SSD has a read/write of 536/207mbs. I guess that's why the stutter isn't on my other drive. Also would like to say, that those with low system RAM (8GB), or low VRAM (4GB or less) might cause stutter that has nothing to do with the storage drive (since I ask people their specs, and I see those commonly have those). I didn't have either of these factors. More info about stutter on start: www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1d07cku/comment/lpgwuj2/

[@kujii_6606]

this game doesn't consume much of my vram my gpu are always around 50-70% most of the time and when it stutters its becoming 0% for sec and back to normal, maybe you are right its about the ssd/hdd r/w and a bad optimization

[@iwillrock777]

Gt 1030 ddr5 2gb vram n 8gb ram pc using hdd.... The game loading time is massive and the stutters mostly happens when I spawn after teleport and when I come back to game after pausing few secs. Will I have to wait for wuwa to improve it ? Or I have to do something?

[@DerpyNoodIe]

I literally run this game on a NVMe drive on a system that has a 5950X and a RTX 3090.... and the game still stutters here and there. It's the game, it's not optimized.

[@hinoka2911]

Bro, I want to know that do I need to change my system to boost by ssd to play Ww or all I need is install ww into ssd?

[@soulzyx]

@@hinoka2911 what do you mean, you're not booting by SSD ? What do you have Windows on then

[@ffauzyy]

as a 8gb user on my pc i agreed with you, its not my device problem its the game problem. i can reach 60fps but when fighting sometimes dropped on 29fps. meanwhile i can play elden ring without any problem. its ok even wuwa still dropped my fps sometimes at least i can still play this game and i enjoy so far. hope they will fix it as soon as possible.

[@rinkaneki3514]

for mine, it was stuttering in the first minute i logged into the game and last about 2-3 minutes. so i just call it, let's warm while moving around in game and doesn't stutter for the rest of my playtime. i'm using HDD too, so maybe it's the game problem that need optimization are the read/write on hard drive that game installed ?

[@soulzyx]

That's what happens to me, the "stutter" is horrible at the start, it gets better over the time. But I still micro stuttering when I run around the world (its just *not* every few seconds like in the vid. The footage you see in the video where it's stuttering is with my D drive:, and where it isn't, is on my SSD (C:) (I dont even get login stutter on my SSD, or anything)

[@rinkaneki3514]

@@soulzyx yeah but there are still people complaining about it even when they're on SSD, like i don't believe it or it be might true. since we don't know what kind of SSD they use, like is it high end one or from small brand everybody barely know, it may become one of the few factor causing the stutter.

[@soulzyx]

@@rinkaneki3514 It could be stuttering for a different reason, I've seen people complain that FPS drops are Stutters (the drive won't help in that case). I believe them, it's just hard to know what everyone's exact issue is to offer a solution.

[@rinkaneki3514]

@@soulzyx at this point, we might as well have a meeting with kuro games developer 🤣. thank you for your response.

[@denji3397]

If you load into a new area u will 100 percent stutter again

[@callmeandoru2627]

So basically they released the game unfinished

[@soulzyx]

Yeah, they rushed the release because Genshin's Natlan Update is coming in a few months and it would be pretty unwise of them to release at the same time.

[@Nawrwhale]

genshin 4.8, natlan, firefly, zzz... there would be little to no hype left if they delayed it further. atleast it's gotten way better now since the release and they're giving out a lot of compensation rewards.

[@sktt1sh]

wuwa is supposed a next gen game tho

[@patnig8031]

nuh uh, no major problem on my side tho, if its "unfinished" every players gonna experience this big problem, also streamers made polls about this issue and only a small amount got this issue, its more "lack of optimization" or "potato device" issue, although im running on 4070s and ryzen 5 7500f i feel like the game are pretty heavy, i mean yea they used unreal engine so even they work on optimization, it wont be as good as unity fps wise, i might be wrong since unreal engine is heavily heavier than unity, but who knows what'll they do to better their opt

[@patnig8031]

i bencmarked my pc with fps unlocker if i can see if i can go 100+, i got around 90-110 in combat that have a lot of enemies 95-110 when doing bosses, and 115-120 when exploring

[@kujii_6606]

im not gonna sacrifice my ssd/hdd lifespan for this game, dont get me wrong the game is good really good but if it will break my things then its a big NO to play, i have decent rig and runs game at 60fps but stutter most of the time its really annoying when it stutters while fighting the camera roll over the screen and i cant see properly after its like throwing the mouse to spin. well i just will do daily and not story atm to keep with the upcoming characters.

[@V3RAC1TY]

same here

[@kurumi1266]

1 week after the game release, i was playing on a heavy stuttering even after some of the patch, I notice it that my HDD Disk Usage is always at 100% even just by standing still in the game, I compare it with Genshin Impact and surprisingly the disk usage is only reaching about 5-20% and the stuttering is so minimal or barely to see unless on a loading or heavy battle with lot's of scene. The next week I decided to buy SSD SATA SAMSUNG EVO 870 1TB, after it arrive i immediately test it, and sure enough i could confirm it that it does eliminate the stutter like 90% of it really a MASSIVE DIFFERENCE!. The disk usage on the SSD is at 0% to 10%, i highly recommended to play this game on SSD.

[@mastermastriker8084]

i dont stutter and i consider the game to be one of the best for me… but i completely agree with you… a game with bad optimization is one of the determining factor of its longevity..

[@EAisLootbox]

I have two SSDs (SATA and NVMe M.2), and unfortunately installing Wuwa on either one doesn't resolve the stuttering issue.

[@soulzyx]

I'm guessing you already tried to put it on the drive that the OS is installed? What are your specs, and have you tried looking at your temps/utilisation of your GPU/CPU % in something like RTTS?

[@reyxishin6651]

I used my m.2 and it works fine now, just that there is small stuttering from time to time but clearly a bigger difference than when I was using my HDD

[@kuro.editzzz]

​@@soulzyxmy issue may be different idk but for some reason my GPU doesn't want to get utilized properly .Even at 1440p I don't even think it's a bottleneck of the cpu. In the city my fps goes down, not as much stutters anymore but the fps just goes down. I have 3060 and Ryzen 7 5800H. 32gb ram

[@soulzyx]

@@kuro.editzzz settings matter too. Things like capsule AO and shadows = looking in some directions your FPS will be much lower because of scenary. Also in Day where you get 60 fps, in the same area you might get 40 fps, that's because the lights and shadows. Definitely in the city. I'm also on 1440p, but with a GTX 1060 6GB, it uses 100% of my GPU , so it could be that your 3060 doesn't get maxed out because it's not working as hard to render. Is it a 3060m laptop? Because those chips are weaker than an actual 3060 and I've seen people report that their laptops GPUs werent being utilised fully for some reason Check with RTTS and look at your utilisation and VRAM usage

[@igm1571]

i put WW in WD Green ssd and something it goes 100% when playing a game.

[@fish5612]

this is not even our pc problem, the game right now is quite unpolish, optimization is extremely needed if kuro want playes to continue playing their game idk bout others say the game is fine, is a pc issue, get better pc etc..... dont listen to those idiot, we see these problem and we issue it to the dev so they can get their shit together and make their game "better", if not, wuwa would be quite hard to enjoy at some point

[@watchitbyragib3365]

Bro, I am taking a liking on this game buttt. I first downloaded it on my SSD. Then for storage issues i had to reinstall it on my hdd. Since then I am facing these stuttering. Funny part is my HDD is runing Genshin with near smoothness but WUWA is just so much laggy. Moving my character with sprint is makingvthe game completely stop for 1 or 2 seconds. If it was a early stage developing problem then I am afraid I need to again install it on SSD somehow.

[@soulzyx]

It's because, the game writes to the page file, which is slower than memory. So a HDD is going to lag when it does that, a SSD is way faster you aren't going to notice when its doing that. How to stop it writing to the page file? You need more system memory, although Idk if it ever doesn't write to page file. The minimal requirements for Genshin Impact is 8GB, the minimal for WuWa is 16GB. MINIMUM btw, not recommended. So of course comparing one lagging to the other, is not gonna be the same, it's like a PS3 game vs a PS4 game. I would just put it back on your SSD, unless you absolutely can't, the game is only 25GB in size, that's tiny. Ofc if you can't, (I can't, but have it on HDD for other reasons), just gotta upgrade eventually 😅

[@christherazor]

So far I was trying playing WuWa on lowest settings possible, including playing on smallest window size possible since, for whatever reason, it improved the game´s stability a bit to me. Nontheless, the stutters this game has is just mindcrushing. Tbf, I don´t have the best specs ever with a mere 1650, intel i5 and 8gb ram single channel (all with an ssd, but on a laptop), although I never had even the slightest problems on other games like Genshin Impact, Tower of Fantasy, Snowbreak Containment Zone or recently Solo Leveling Arise (last one being not that well optimized either, but at least very well playable nontheless). I did find out 1 or 2 things. Playing the game with dual channel ram is already a big thing. In my case, putting the game on windowed mode on the smallest size helped to make it more stable. What baffles me is the hudge difference between dungeons and open world. Inside a dungeon, the game easily holds 60 fps. Outside of it... no chance. I also don´t understand why the game, even on lowest settings possible, has to be this detailed. What I mean by that is especially the special effects on vegatation. When wind blows you can clearly see grass and trees moving. Walking through grass or fighting in it also triggers physics. All of this may cost way more power than putting shadows on (in fact in WuWa shadows load in like in no time at all). In older racing games to say the very least, you may be able to set higher grafic qualities in it, including shadows, and be completly fine. However, as soon as you enable vegetation effects the game can immediatly become stuttery, if not almost unplayable. This might also be a good reason, even more if you have a low ram size, why the game has a high disk usage at times. What I also found out in my experience so far was, that the game might stutter even further if your ping is unstable or high. Despite my PC being fully up to date, if also unstable ping comes in the game sutters even worse. I was thinking of upgrading my ram someday, but as soon as my pc can handle most tasks and other games I play I don´t see a reason to do so, especially when the sole reason is to being able to play some poorly optimized gacha game. Hopefully Kuro Games fixes these issues asap. It would be a big shame if WuWa would be already in a decline due to bad optimization.

[@soulzyx]

There's a pinned comment in the video, if you want to relieve stuttering then RAM is going to help you, 16GB dual channel. Looks like when you don't have enough memory the game starts writing to page file which causes stutter since it's slower. For average FPS, if you're playing at windowed mode then it seems 1080p is too much for you. Check out this video, if you all you want is extra FPS: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX2zfIGEh6uWjZI&t Then once you understand how to edit your ini file, I would recommend the config from here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGW7gYxrm91_mdE You should see 10-20 FPS increase, depends on the system if you were to use the potato config I posted

[@LunaR34]

Man i thought I'm the only one have the problem and why they need to keep verify files, compile everytime we log in and log out? :/

[@renz3712]

My laptop can play almost every AAA game on max settings smoothly but don't know why I can't maintain stable fps on this game(I don't touch any graphic settings, it is already on max quality from the preset)

[@aria.e]

I don't have any stuttering issues at all (I installed it on my SSD), except if I open chrome with 30 tabs in the background. Sometimes the game crashes (one in twenty attempts) when I try to do simulations, or sometimes it doesn't load at all when I change places/fast travel. Also the worst problem of all for me, the subtitles were cut and I didn't have any way to scroll down to read it, and I abhored the Eng dub.

[@saikamahmud3112]

How do I install it on my ssd? I only have one disk called Os on my desktop and I try to shrink and move it to some other disk but it can only hold upto 7gb (sorry idk what im doing 😭)

[@aria.e]

@@saikamahmud3112 firstly you have to buy a hard drive called SSD, or the other type called nvme. Then you can install it on your pc, plug the cable into it like your regular hard drive, (except this nvme stuff you have to slot them on your mother board if your mother board support nvme drive) in this case, your "OS" drive. After you boot your pc you need to format the new drive first in order to make it usable. Then you can install games in it.

[@madalinradion]

Make sure you clean the ram held by tabs in chrome when you play just in case, i use memory saver extension to do just that, use it and it will cleanse chrome of its ram held captive

[@asiamirska1266]

I see a lot of folks struggling here. I personally have a rather strong disk with 1 TB memory and don't experience much lag - though I get the warning too that my drive is outdated and the game may crash. For now it works just fine.

[@Breadbuts]

I used to have insane frame drops (like not even 1 frame per second lol) when I'm just starting the game even on Ryzen 7 5800x, RTX 3060ti, and 32GB ram on 3600mhz. WuWa was installed on my HDD back then, but when I bought a Samsung 990 Pro just the other day and reinstalled WuWa on the SSD, the frame drops were gone. The frame drops I was experiencing (back when it was still installed on the HDD) was the initial loading of resources I would say. It drops on my first dash and first jump of the game, as well as moving around for a few seconds but after that, almost no more frame drops. Hope they optimize this as soon as possible because this level of graphics shouldn't need much of a high spec pc just to run even at 60fps

[@soulzyx]

yeah, it's because the game writes to the page file, and HDD's are too slow. By default i'm guessing defaults page file to whatever drive it's running off, so if you put it on a SSD you won't even tell it's writing to it.

[@horizon_angel]

At least make it playable on HDD would also be good (TBH last time I see, it's playable, after running around for a moment, letting the game renders). That said, the game's graphics and level of details isn't that astonishing, so why would it need to be that heavy?

[@Breadbuts]

@@horizon_angel Fr, all my games were on my HDD before and only WuWa and Valorant were the ones that I felt a significant performance impact due to them being installed on an HDD

[@LizardExterminator]

BRUH 2 months later n its still does this.. Shit Optimization

[@alecurussofficial]

I randomly told my friend to install the game on their C:/ drive, where windows is installed, and apparently this fixed all his problems. No more stuttering or lag, nothing.

[@soulzyx]

Yeah that's what I did.

[@luxifer185]

I still have the stutter issues sometimes, annoying as it is but I love the games they make, and so whenever my game stutters, I just spam click my ult and pray to God it stops stuttering ult ends, or boss didn't kill me after that time

[@Eggy224]

Moving to Ssd fixed most of the stuttering for me but if you only have 8gn ram like me you will still get alot of lag and low fps

[@soulzyx]

Yeah it's important to know the difference

[@annalisamoreno7745]

I feel like the last hotfixes made it even worse. My laptop is practically burning after just a few minutes of playing.

[@ilovegrass]

1.1 they still haven't fixed it, my ssd is already almost full because it's only for my windows system, I use hdd for the games and the rest. I guess it's time for me to upgrade the ssd...

[@soulzyx]

So the stuttering isn't gone on HDD, but verifying game files at the beginning of launch is actually faster on my HDD now xD but yes you''d wanna put this on your SSD

[@rukitorin1998]

I accidentally installed this game on my dying old HDD and that was an experience. Every click of an item/material is a slideshow waiting to happen. Its like interacting with the world it stops and thinks... Install the game on a ssd for better gaming experience.

[@Kizaineキザイン]

if they put FSR back maybe I'm good because on launch I'm not experiencing this stutter at all, anyways I'm just waiting

[@kal7309]

real, i after few patch all i can say is that stutter occur more often damn

[@soulzyx]

There's a way of forcing FSR through ini file. I might make a video on it, but I need to be sure that's exactly what it does first.

[@kal7309]

Daym, good luck on that mate

[@artsoloer]

When FSR gone, i got 10~20 fps lol. Somehow managed to back 30~45+ (in open world) after just copy paste to engine.ini from Tower of Fantasy 2 reddit post 2yr ago. Also made some change from watchigg this channel video. Now every time there is 200mb hotfix(which almost daily) I pray lol.

[@try2fly]

​@@soulzyxsorry but no. Yes it was much better with fsr. But in one patch like 3-4 days afteraunch they disabled it. No, I mean disabled-dissbled. Changing it from game files won't activate it. Thats the problem. They disabled it due to "crashes", but I hope they will fix it and let us use it again.

[@zeromailss]

I'm upgrading my NVME just to play this game smoothly yet still get stuttering sometimes Fortunately on high difficulty challenge like Tower or Hologram you don't load much of anything so my experience has been mostly smooth aside from some gameplay bug like the infinite parry glitch. But yea it does give me headache when I teleport around the map to farm echo and get stuttering despite having more than enough resource in my PC (I can run max setting but lower my setting a bit just to make sure yet still have some stutter, I tried to turn on and off the V Sync as usually that help in other game but not in this one idk why ugh)

[@soulzyx]

Do you have more than 16GB of RAM? Do you use multiple drives?

[@revo5123]

is the problem still there in october 2024? i've deleted the game from my pc as it was stuttering like hell. if it's fixed, im planning on downloading it back. if not, then seems like ill have to wait...

[@soulzyx]

If you're talking about the stutter in this video specific, if you don't have 16GB of RAM and a SSD, then wait till you do, those are the minimum specs for this game. It can be caused by a bunch of things, like Page file, the game doing random background scans at load, all which pretty much disappear when using a fast drive. But I have the minimum specs for the game.

[@revo5123]

@@soulzyx Damn, that's unfortunate... I have 16GB RAM, but my SSD is only 128gb, only 32gb free. Not enough for Wuwa. I could only install it on my HDD. Seems like I either have to wait for them to optimize, or just buy an external SSD...

[@soulzyx]

​@@revo5123 I have run the game on a HDD since day 1, it's not going to change with any update, the problem is that HDD is too slow. Every time the game writes to page file, or does background resource check, thats when you see the stutter, even the slower SSDs dont have this problem. (hell even phone is faster than HDD) The stutter only is seriously horrible for like 5-8 minutes on login for me on a HDD, after that its mostly gone and playable for me. More info: www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1d07cku/comment/lpgwuj2/ It's up to you to decide if it's unplayabale for you, but if you just wait then you wont play the game at all. Install it on your HDD, play, then move it on your SSD and see if there's even a difference, if its the problem im talking about, wuwa is 27gb, probably better to move it back to HDD then leave your OS drive with only 5GB available, but you can at least see how it plays

[@denji3397]

Elden ring,rdr 2 and other heavy ganes runs smooth in my hdd. Now i have to shift wuthering waves from hdd to sdd 🗿

[@normal2410]

For me running task manager as administrator while the game was running pressing on the game then going to detail and changing the client win64 shipping priority to high and keeping task manager working on the background (basically min it instead of closing) fixed 96% of my stutter and freezes Also I did some tweaks in the engine file so it may have a hand in it but the game run perfectly

[@johndevin1193]

how do you change it? right click and just choose it?

[@soulzyx]

@@johndevin1193 If you want to change priority to above Normal, or High, yes on the process itself. Just remember, all this does is make the CPU prioritise resources to that application. This is only a real problem when other programs or background processes/services are competing for resource with the game.

[@Eggy224]

What tweaks did you make to the engine

[@johndevin1193]

@@soulzyx hmmm, okay. Basically, if changing the setting of priority to high doesn't fix it, then I'm basically... fucked?

[@soulzyx]

@@johndevin1193 It depends, that specific fix was to OP's hardware and software configuration. You won't always see the exact same result. What are your specs, what problem are you facing? Are you running the game on a HDD?

[@theaverageplayer1656]

1:01 and also overlooked by half of the community. It’s insane how many players are like “Well you must have a potato pc cuz it’s running smoothly for me, get a job” or “stop coping ur just bad, the game runs perfectly”. [Im surprised how fast the game’s community became insanely toxic] I’ve rarely seen such a small game (20gb at launch) be this badly optimized.

[@horizon_angel]

Can say so, I've been dealing with these people anyway. From what I see, at least in my area, it's mostly because developer is kind enough to give an apology compensation of, ahem, free 5* character, these people also always says that dev listening to community, than something like Hoyo (despite their game is far more playable than what we have here) The thing is, most people is kinda brainwashed by this. While I love a free decent, or even good compensation, but if the game still not playable, then what's the point?

[@maj0ga.]

only time I ever get a stutter is when I first log in. I usually have to do each action (jump, dash, backflip, and attack) once and the stuttering stops for me. I play on GTX 960 so wonder what is making things worse for ppl with better pc than me

[@user-0202]

I have a question regarding on servers. If I switch servers, does my previous server progress stays or does it get deleted. I'm sorry if I disturb you. I just really need this, I found out that I chose the wrong server at almost union 30 with lucky weapons. I'm supposed to be in SEA but I chose ASIA, I'm not sure what's the gap between each others ping, so if it isnt that big, I'll but if its gap is large then I want to switch as fast as possible. I'm going to try to pull for Yinlin. I'm also not sure if the rewards will stay in the in-game mail. So if possible can I know about that too?

[@soulzyx]

Not sure what rewards you're talking about, but I haven't tried it yet. I would *guess* it's like Genshin, each server is a different "save". You can change between servers anytime, but their progress is separate. It's better you look that up though, don't take my word for it thats just how I imagine it works

[@user-0202]

@@soulzyx Thank you so much!

[@bruh6267]

Im on SSD and it still stutters, hope they fix it soon

[@soulzyx]

What specs? Is it low FPS that you're getting?

[@bruh6267]

@@soulzyx Asus TUF laptop with: -INTEL CORE I5-10300H -8GB DDR4 -512GB M.2 NVME PCIE SSD -NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX1650 4GB GDDR6 Just stutters, a lot in fact

[@soulzyx]

@@bruh6267 Yeah I'm willing to bet it's the 8GB of RAM or the 1650 4GB VRAM, M.2 should be much faster than mine. But I don't have a low system RAM/VRAM. Weird how there's many different issues.

[@Zeg-eh5ik]

​​@@soulzyxyea but it shouldn't stutter like this. My Specs: Ryzen 2600X 3.60 GHz 8 GB RAM Nvidia GTX 1050 1 VRAM At no time did Genshin have a lag/stutter problem for me even on it's launch. Doom Eternal also uses almost 8 gigs of RAM and my PC can maintain 60 FPS at 1080p but it is the most optimized game in the world

[@soulzyx]

@@Zeg-eh5ik you are playing well below the minimum requirements my friend. My game uses 3-4GB of VRAM and 13GB of System Memory, I think the type of stutter you have might not be fixable

[@Kirraii]

It utilizes you ram a lot due to memory leaks so just restart and it should help usually

[@mizumihamasaki1133]

this game is too damn cool. it would be a shame if the devs leave it unoptimized

[@ArthiosVankrul]

I see my ping sky rocket from 150ish to 500+ when the stutters happen, it usually happens more often after alt tabbing the game

[@soulzyx]

Indeed, I get that on my HDD.

[@ArthiosVankrul]

I get it on my SSD so I'm guessing it's optimization as my PC is essentially high end and my connection is stable

[@catsittingcomfortably]

Upgrading your ssd is one of the easiest modifications you can do on your pc

[@kanikiaz]

is wuwa run fine on ssd sata ? my pc have ssd m.2 and sata im too scared to install game on my m.2

[@soulzyx]

depends on how fast your sata SSD is (I only own a sata), but it should be fine. althoguh people complain if its not on the same drive as the OS try it, and you can always move the folder between drives

[@cjvaans4484]

I hope you reported this issue quickly to the devs as this is a serious issue. Using a AMD igpu it lags when my character is moving, but it goes smooth when idle. Also, I play Snowbreak that uses UE4 and its much smoother than this even on a HDD drive. I think my laptop with igpu can handle this if they fix the optimization issue. When I first fought Crownless in the story it was smooth, but as I arrive to Jinzhou, it was unplayable.

[@soulzyx]

They are already aware of it, but if you want to report it then that doesn't hurt. I think the difference with Snowbreak might not be HDD vs SSD, but rather your system. Snowbreak minimum requirements are: Processor: i5-2320/amd a4-6320. Memory: 8 GB RAM. Graphics: geforce gtx 650/radeon hd 7750. Wuwa: Processor Intel i5 (9th Gen) / Ryzen 7 2700 Memory 16GB Graphics Card GTX 1060 / RX 570 So, I'm not sure if your problems are drive related

[@heroman1322]

I have a fast M.2 and can max games 144 fps usually. It’s strange to have issues with Wuthering Waves like this..

[@robertjaysonalcantara7016]

Genshin and HSR has no issue with read/write and after loading and waiting for brief 1 second stutter its buttery smooth the entire time even on my aging 8 year old 2TB 3.5" HDD. Add to the fact that it takes 30 minutes worth of file integrity check everytime I fire the game up. Its getting annoying, honestly.

[@eijitoh6252]

uh both Genshin & HSR did have issues with read/write in their first months. why are ppl suddenly having amnesia

[@tobyune]

My laptop run cyberpunk 2077 smoothly and wuwa managed to struggle my laptop everyday and its making me insane

[@doremobgaming9600]

NAH TELL ME ONE THING WHY THIS STUPID GANE INSTALLED IN MY HHD AND FULLY UTILISED MY CPU BUT NOT GPU MY CPY BECOME 100% BUT GPU STAYS AT 50% BRO WTH HELP PLEASE

[@soulzyx]

your cpu is probably not very good

[@doremobgaming9600]

@@soulzyx 💀 uh how am I suppose to reply to that I said that wuwa is using my cpu instead of my gpu

[@soulzyx]

@@doremobgaming9600 if ur CPU is hitting 99%, then it's probably old. If it's a laptop, then make sure it's using your dedicated GPU, and not the integrated graphics.

[@Vergil560]

I couldn't even finished the parkour event VI because of shuttering

[@soulzyx]

It's awful there because you're constantly moving through the map yeah

[@Vergil560]

@@soulzyx Fr though, I just hope in next versions of the game that this shutters will be fixed because I'm about to lose hope of playing rn

[@pintobean6702]

What bothers me is i was one of the lucky people who didn't stutter, i didn't get high frames but having fps locked at 45 made gameplay consistent which i was fine with but a hot fix came out and it made the game borderline unplayable with how much it stuttered even when on SSD so i had to use lossless scaling to even play the game afterwards

[@zalox12]

I am facing same problem. Mu fps eas constant between 55 to 59 in maps but in city its goes down to 45 or below but I didn't cared. But now after so many patches i barely hitting 42+ fps with inconsistent

[@KAZITOKI97]

Can I ask I have top tier internet mostly 50mbs but when I'm playing wuwa the Ms always yellow or red and and when I'm playing Tower of fantasy my Ms always green never be yellow or red

[@soulzyx]

Are you talking about when you stutter it goes up? What is the MS number you get without it flucating at all, so just what it usually stays at.

[@tristanpapa4563]

@@soulzyx same issue. it usually stays 60-70 at day and 37-40+ at night. (i mean irl) it spikes a lot that's why im also thinking if it's on the server as well? or any explanation about that certain issue?

[@Rano01]

This shit pisses me off. Not only is it still not fixed but in 1.1 it seems much worse. Also is there a way I can report this bs to kuro?

[@soulzyx]

Looks fixeds to me. 1.1, they removed the File Verification on startup, meaning for HDDs, instant loading. Before 1.1, it took me 5 minutes to get into the game, now it's 1 minute. Also the stutterring on game start up, still happens, but it's not as bad. It goes away in maybe 5 seconds. I'm sure it had to do with the anticheat and ACE, from a reddit thread I read, that was taking up resources, it looks liek they disabled something. Honestly, it's so much better now, and this is coming from someone with a weak PC.

[@Rano01]

@@soulzyx Yeah just saw that post, hopefully kuro does change their anti cheat or fix it. The stuttering is so bad for one of my friends on mobile

[@stevenchandra7372]

@@soulzyx please keep us still updated about the optimization in the upcoming patch. Thank you for all of your effort

[@soulzyx]

@@stevenchandra7372 ive got a lot more to post, just waiting close to 1k subs before making the video because it will take me a lot of time

[@resonatorX01]

In my case the game stutters at first, i have 16gb ram and GTX 1060, including HDD, not ssd, he game runs perfect after minutes playing.

[@flowmather7964]

Just remember guys every time you play wuwa you're decreasing the SSD lifespan 2x faster.

[@tenten8472]

Fr, i will not gonna let my ssd die just for 1 game im already tired playing the game, wuwa gameplay is still 10/10 but the thing i will just do the same what i did in genshit, i was like uh not again but i guess it was worth to give it a shot!

[@soulzyx]

I wouldnt say x2, but let's make an *EXTREME* case example which isnt realistic The game writes 3mb/s a second, 180 mb/s a minute, 10.8GB an hour. Let's say you play 6 hours a day, that's 64.8 GB a day being written. In a month, that's 1.944 TB. In a year, 23.328 TB. Let's say your SSDs life cycle is between 60 and 150 TB in write. You'd still need 2.6 years of playing everyday non stop for degradation. Of course, assuming its a fresh SSD and it's not already half way through its lifetime. It's definitely an issue, and I don't wanna deal with that since i've already got 33 TB written to mine, but it's not really going to kill the average persons drive. The devs definitely need to do something about it, no where have I seen it being addressed.

[@thatb_shanice]

so fun fact i use an ssd and the game still stutters to an unplayable amount and thats not because i dont have good fps its cuz the game recompiles the shaders (lighting,textures etc) everytime its opened

[@soulzyx]

Do you have more than 16GB of ram? Do you use more than 1 drive?

[@jimmyfeliciano29]

I have a Ibuypower Gaming PC. Inte i7-14700F/ 32GB RAM/ NVidia GeForce RTX 4070. My PC is overkill for this game. My PC can handle demanding games. Like Assassins creed Odyssey, Valhalla, Dragon Engine Yakuza and Judgment series and many more. My PC is 7 months old. Still new. My friend has a Omen i7 gaming laptop with a similar set up as my gaming desktop. Only difference is that he has a 16GB RAM and a Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060. Withering Waves runs like a beauty on his laptop and my desktop. The stuttering issue is on the Devs side. I heard that their optimization was not that great. Hopefully they can fix it in the future. For those who has a similar set up as me or my friend or a more powerful set up. Do not worry. The stuttering is not you. It's the developer's side that they have to fix.

[@langds7z]

So my laptop spec is intel i5 11th gen 11400H,Nvidia Geforce rtx 3050,16Gb Ram,Ssd and 4Gb vram with 75 watt tdp,144 hz monitor My question is,Do my laptop specifications meet the requirements for playing this game? because when I play on low settings it still lags sometimes even though playing other games is fine

[@soulzyx]

where does it lag? And are you talking about low FPS? I would say your CPU is good, your GPU is probably just about fine. you can try my other FPS optimisation video, where you can lower the game graphics even more kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX2zfIGEh6uWjZI

[@langds7z]

@@soulzyx its lagging randomly sometimes

[@langds7z]

@@soulzyx ok,thanks

[@fadhilaiman7812]

Always stutter when loading the game for first time..and i need to spent 1-3 minutes to move around until the game stable

[@Eumakun]

can confirm, its also like that for me. each time I open the game, after my first 10+mins, the fps starts to stabilize. but I still get red ping spikes/stutters from time to time though. It's like it always needs to load the shaders like it's opened for the first time even though It's expected to load faster after each time the game is played. Example like genshin, Each time a new area is released, it's starts stutter a bit in my experience, since it's loading new textures/shaders but after a day or so of playing the new area, it becomes stable and fast loading on my next playthroughs.

[@Luckyoubetteroilup]

Updated my drivers and all lags are gone 🗿🙏

[@sebastianbelu1417]

But here is the thing, this shit is gonna brick your ssd in no time, Im scared even for my hdd since an hdd is made for many re-writes and re-reads, but goddamn this does in a month more workload on my hdd than it would have done in a year

[@kruup99]

Hi there, I just want to add something about the stuttering issue. There's something going on with the CPU performance on this game, my Pentium G6400 can't handle the workload and it makes the game stutter heavily on any setting (low/high) while I have no issue with other game (GI/HSR/ToF). I guess this game is CPU heavy? Idk, I might need to upgrade my PC

[@soulzyx]

Hi, I would not compare to GI/HSR, they don't have the same levels of graphics. ToF is a better comparison, but it's strange how you don't have any issues in ToF but here they are both UE4 games. From my knowledge that's a dual core CPU. I would check your game with Msi Afterburner + RTTS, and check your CPU utilisation and temps, to see if it is being "maxed" out. Here's a guide: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKrSlJlpqrCke5I

[@kruup99]

My CPU got maxed out at 100% every time I play WW, that said my GPU (RTX 3050) only utilized around 30% ~ 50%. I'd say ToF have better optimization than WW haha

[@soulzyx]

@@kruup99 My CPU is at 40%, and it's a 2000 series Ryzen from 2018. So I think it only being dual core is severely limiting it. I think if you upgrade, it'll be much better, but are you also running the game on a HDD or no? Also is that a laptop, because everyone on a laptop has said their GPU was not utilised because it was actually using their integrated graphics instead.

[@kruup99]

Yeah, that probably it. I think the problem lies within my dual core CPU, I use SSD as my main storage so it shouldn't be a problem. I'm planning to upgrade my PC to i5-10400F, I'll give an update when I notice a difference.

[@kruup99]

@@soulzyx I just upgraded my CPU, yep that seems to fix it. The problem lies with the dual core thing can't keep up with the amount of processing power this game needs.

[@doreen612]

had the same problem and i even have a great pc build. tried putting WuWa on my SSD, problem got fixed even on high settings. but yeah, they need to optimize this

[@rsg_magfire]

Mobile player? Understandable. Pc players? Ain't no way you guys lagging

[@mayth449]

The issue is from the developers 😭

[@shweepa2061]

I have 2 SSDs in my laptop but I still experience stutters for some unknown reason. Im gonna try moving the game to the other drive and hopefully its a faster read and writer. Also have 32gb of ram and with intel i5 11th gen + RTX 3060 and still feels a lot of performance issue in the game. Hopefully it will get fixed

[@vladilenamilize7921]

A wild Pulao. Hello there ✋👋

[@horizon_angel]

Hi, a WuWa player on HDD here After 1.1 update, the game is, how do I say this.... *Getting worse* (at the same time, this issues start happening also after I update my Nvidia driver, so who knows) Before update, true that the game would lag and stutter, as if trying to "warm the system", because after a while, I actually able to play normally with decent performance (there's still some lags, but not as noticeable as first open) Now, after update, I actually open the game to continue my story, it's still run decently (still with first open thingy) However, after driver update, the game actually getting worse. To start, it takes almost 10 minutes (or 7 maybe?) verifying game file integrity (which actually at that time, the game also not responding, but according to task manager, my HDD is at 100% usage), and so on, before actually loggin in, goes into my Rover's hand, and another 5 to 7 minutes loading in. Loaded into the game, the usual stutter and lags first, but it's actually getting worse, because if "rendering process", if that make sense, is failed, there's a possibility the game having an audio delay, stuck on opening map, or even sounds lost after teleport. Not to mention the game taking so long to actually loading, because even when I'm entering loading screen, the game isn't actually loading yet, I can still hear my character idling in background. I still can have decent fun, when the game actually work, but most of the time, it doesn't. And TBH, I don't like when people keep praising the dev for keep giving apology rewards (I mean, I like rewards too), when the game isn't better yet, or even worse Again, this is probably because I'm on HDD, which probably isn't a good pair for RTX 3050, but well, I do have limited budget now, and there's other games that actually run better on my PC, say something like Ghost of Tsushima, GTA V, Forza Horizon 5, or even Genshin Impact (that before I delete that game for WuWa), and also HSR. Here I'm still waiting for devs to actually improve the game, but for how long, I wonder (note: game is also planned on PS4, which definitely still using HDD as base)

[@soulzyx]

i get same stutter, but what you said about the game taking 7 mins to verify files, 1.1 actually fixed that for me. It takes 1-2 minutes now, they sped up that process for HDD's to skip it, the load times are still a bit slow otherwise, but before 1.1 I had to wait 5 or more minutes just to get to the Rover screen. It's much better now. Audio delay and stuttering after login is normal for me, it's when the game writes to the page file (I checked in Resource manager) when it runs out of memory, it's much lower and causes this issue. Only get this on my HDD though, probably because its much slower than my SSD

[@horizon_angel]

​​@@soulzyx You know, it actually feels better not to actually deal with people who keep defending the game because they can run it better Anyway, maybe the 7 minutes verifying game files is probably my issues, but I'll see next week, since I'm out at the moment. All the worse problem about sounds not rendering and everything, at first I thought my system need restart, but TBH, even a fresh start from turned off didn't resolve the problem for me, sometimes it work, most of the times, it doesn't. So much so that even it takes a while, just to load the gacha banner. Oh, and yeah, when worked, the game run at around 50-59 fps-ish, barely 60 fps. Quite ironic for something like RTX 3050 (and I just re-read my comment back up there, I just fixes it. All the worse problem happens after I update Nvidia driver)

[@ahmedabdellaoui1628]

literally the same do u have found any solutions?

[@horizon_angel]

@@ahmedabdellaoui1628 no solution so far, however, I just found out that mobile port of WuWa is actually miles better than PC one (playing on POCO X5 5G). While it's a bit slow, because my phone is on 30 fps and low graphics, the point is, the game here actually have faster loading, faster verification speed, and almost no lag or stutter or whatever

[@soulzyx]

@@horizon_angel not saying that the PC ver uses resources good, since it's clearly having issues with memory and Windows page file, but a small thing to note if this is true: - UFS 2.1 has a maximum sequential read speed of around 850 MB/s and a maximum sequential write speed of around 260 MB/s. I'm willing to bet another factor is that your phones storage is MUCH much faster than your PC's HDD and thats why its also smoother :)

[@chronostar7968]

I had stutter issues in the first 10 mins of the game for HDD, then plays fine after, then i reinstalled it on SSD then stuttering issues are gone.

[@abanw70]

This issue still exist It even eats ssd lifespan unlike any normal game Is there any good news recently?

[@soulzyx]

not really about the i/o of the game, it still bad, but for performnace this patch isnt that bad, they gave us FSR back, and also u can turn off bloom + crowd density now. Launching the game, u dont need to verify all game files as well which makes the start up much quicker even on HDD like myself

[@abanw70]

@@soulzyx so about reads/ wites it still that insane one? Can he make like a comparison tho this video is on 1.0 patch

[@soulzyx]

@@abanw70 reading is not realy an issue, it doesnt cause any degradation to your drive. I don't need to make a comparison though, it still uses the page file when it "runs out of memory", and it's writing 3mb/s to the page file thats what causes the stutter

[@lelouchlamperouge3077]

*THE PING !!! GODDAMNIT !!! 😢😢😢 IT'S MUCH WORSEEEE THEN GENSHIN IN THE PAST.* Playing on R3 5300u with medium set, 45fps, all low, exc.blur, lighting, AA. Actually, blur on gives me more fluid movement with 20ish fps. 24fps feels pretty good, it's weird. Stuttering mostly happens when rendering the new terrain. But, *THE FUCKING DAMN PING !*

[@soulzyx]

If it's more FPS you want, I have a video for that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX2zfIGEh6uWjZI

[@Insanytz]

my setup is a cpu ryzen 5 5600x gpu rx 6700xt 32gb ram 1tb ssd nvme m.2 and stutters most of the times, with max settings and also low settings, sometimes places with high effects i even get lower fps. i hope kuro can fix their game as soon as possible bcs it is really frustrating to play such game with bad optimization

[@NinnFred]

I've played many other UE4 based games before and this is the only one that has the stutter this bad. No matter the reason behind it, it shouldn't be the excuse to don't fix it.

[@Flynn0765]

im averaging a 30-40 fps on wuwa but i still progressed alot its actually playable if u get used to it

[@soulzyx]

I've just been forcing myself since I enjoy the game a lot.

[@SeminarChauffeur]

What ssd do you use, SATA or NVME?

[@psixi7230]

Kingston SATA SSD 120GB 520mbs read 200 mbs write

[@kimannepark4709]

My gaming PC with 32GB PC with GTX 1080 and SSD doesn't have this problem even in maxed settings. I built this in 2016. You all are just using Jurassic PC XT computers with 4K memory and IDE/floppy disk drives.

[@Efgand0894]

Im having serious issues with ping, it over 220ms sometimes it goes down to 170 but suddenly spikes to 500 and returns to 220. In no other game I have this issue (America server btw)

[@soulzyx]

Might not be ping, it just shows that because it's an "online" game. Look at your drive in Task Manager when the spike happens, also can check Resource manager, like in my video to see if its when the game accesses your drive

[@NotAHoyoSlave]

I learned how to undervolt my gaming laptop because of this😂

[@callmeandoru2627]

I don't believe it's a minority problem, as the only people who don't have problems with the game are streamers.

[@soulzyx]

People with "better" systems have less issues or less likely to run into them, yes. But if the lag was this bad for everyone, as I'm having, I genuinely don't think many people would stick around to play it.

[@Spencer0090]

not only that but slow loading time!! this game is not even half the size of genshin but it loads like its double its size!!

[@Mugen10]

Mines hasn't stuttered since day 1

[@MattyHD0]

Someone known if this is already fixed?

[@soulzyx]

loading times are good now, stutter is only there on HDD, or if you have low RAM

[@Gyatt_game_69]

Constant texture streaming? This also adds to the CPU overhead isnt it? Thats why the game cant run on 120fps with decent CPU like 5600x

[@soulzyx]

it doesn't make sense for all resources in the game in the world to be fully loaded 24/7. It will load/unload as the game asks for them. There's nothing wrong with texture streaming. there's definitely a problem with how the game handles the process with memory if you want to "modify" the streaming part, u can add to engine.ini r.Streaming.FullyLoadUsedTextures=1 r.Streaming.LimitPoolSizeToVRAM=1 r.Streaming.PoolSizeForMeshes=-1 It will make it so it doesnt need to request high textures, but will double your VRAM usage. I didnt bother since all my stutter is from page file, but there's the info online people are using, never made a diff on my low end

[@Gyatt_game_69]

@@soulzyx would that ease CPU load? Cuz currently the game is pretty much CPU limited on most scenario, it cant even max out an RX 6600 with r5 5600 from benchmarks that i seen

[@soulzyx]

​@@Gyatt_game_69 No, it would help with GPU. Have you checked your RTSS ? to be sure your CPU is like at 90% load or something, because I've never seen that before recording, it's always my GPU that is my bottleneck, the only time the CPU should be a bottleneck if it's mispaired with a faster GPU will you notice that Btw, if you are asking why RX 6600 and r5 5600 cant max out, it can already run at 60 FPS at Ultra, kzbin.info/www/bejne/imesdGypm9CSoqc If you are making the claim that it can't hit 120 FPS, then yes, that's correct. RX 6600 + r5 5600 is a budget PC setup. There's no chance for it hitting 120 in this title, you can uncap to see what it can hit stable, maybe like 80. In my country, this CPU + GPU can be bought for £300 together, it's budget, even if it's respectable combo. I would adjust your expectations.

[@Gyatt_game_69]

@@soulzyx i mean the CPU limitation is the issue, it wont max a 6600 means it wont fully utilize 100% even an an rx 6600, so faster GPU would also not maximally utilized. which shows CPU limitation, the cpu runs at 40-50% but i believe its the overall usage, not per threads, cuz wuwa only runs like on 1-2 threads while not even-ing the load like other games. I guess its dx11 issue but they can do much better on that point Here is another example of 5600 isnt able to fully utilize an RTX 4060 kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJm1pmd8lLWhpKssi=GyLMOSeSo1IhDFen Keep in mind 5600 is pretty fast, it can drive up to rtx 3080 no problem on most games, not on wuwa tho Also, cpu limitation is not always showed by 90-100% cpu usage. Check this for thorough explanation kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoKtmJ95iKx4qpYsi=-ji-Zr1JA99jZgQV

[@soulzyx]

@@Gyatt_game_69 Sorry, I don't really get it it's not a CPU limitation on the r5 5600, if you change out the GPU you will see higher framerate. a RTX 4060 cannot be compared to rx 6600, its faster than a rx 6600XT, rx 6600 is slower than a 3060 lol I think you might be referring to a game being CPU bound, which this one could be, im not saying otherwise, Assassin Creed Odyssey can also see something like 15-20 FPS difference when swapping out a faster CPU, even with paired with a GPU that *should* be fast enough with it. You didn't specify what framerates you're getting at what res, and I can't find any benchmarks for your specs, but anyway I will close my discussion with these notes: Betwen the video you showed me of the r5 5600 + 4060 combo, here is 5600 + 6600XT (slower gpu, same cpu) kzbin.info/www/bejne/apKsZamtpsh9prM The FPS is less than the 4060, with a slightly weaker GPU, only diff is GPU, same CPU. The RAM config is different, its 3200 vs 3800, CL wasnt specified for the 3200, that could also benefit. Intel Core i5 14400F + 4060 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZXdcmSwaZatqbM The FPS is MUCH better, i5 14400F is faster than r5 5600. I will say the single core processing is probs a lot better. The other difference in that config I just sent, DDR5 RAM. If you really want to know if it will make the huge difference on a 6600, you can get a 5800x3d, but then your GPU will be the bottleneck. (you wont get 120 with that GPU even with CPU upgrade) No, there's not anything you can do about it, settings or tweak wise. Some games run better than others. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXWQkmeKbdqgqsU This is what I'd call "120 fps" achievable, all other videos always drop to 80 fps, but it's a cracked setup

[@duzinbbs4784]

''move the game over'' what do u mean by that?

[@soulzyx]

If you have an SSD, you can move the game's installation from your HDD.

[@krxdragon6405]

Hi, is 128gb ssd enough for wuwa alone?

[@soulzyx]

Yeah, but it depends on things like: How much of your space is allocated on the SSD? The game takes 24GB, so if you have 80GB left with the game installed that should be fine, just you never want to fill up your SSD it'll run slower. Also I recommend 16GB RAM minimum to get less stuttering, but you will have to do with what you have

[@krxdragon6405]

@soulzyx btw wuwa's size won't go more than 128gb, will it?

[@soulzyx]

@@krxdragon6405 I can't tell you that, the game will of course get bigger with updates, like Genshin Impact

[@ThePilexstream]

*well I don't particularly have this issue, more like "screen tearing".*

[@soulzyx]

If you turn on Vsync, it should help with screen tearing. Unless it''s a different issue you're experiencing.

[@tsrif115]

So we need mega pc for a mobile game?

[@lehang5840]

How about iOS? WuWa is probably the first mobile game where my phone gets hot very fast right upon loading in, and with the constant stuttering when moving ingame, I have fears for my phone battery life.

[@soulzyx]

I dont know enough about mobile to comment on that, sorry. A battery will degrade over time, even if you don't game. I would just not play for extended periods of time. It shouldn't decrease battery more than playing any other game tho. I would lower all settings to minimum and use the 30 FPS cap

[@XiaZ]

It read 0.5-1 MB/s avg for me, and spike to 10-20 MB/s while fast traveling to a random beacon. I think the problem isn't that the game is trying to read all the time, but that your VRAM is full all the time so the game has to hot load the assets and replace the old unused one. the game consume 4.5 GB of my VRAM so I can see this causing an issue on a GPU with lower than 4GB of VRAM. ofc it's still the game fault, because this issue won't happen if they just let you change the texture size.

[@soulzyx]

Interesting, thanks for the comment. I actually read this explaination on a different game, Bannerlord. But the thing is, the game is only using up 4GB VRAM, and I have 6GB on my GPU, so I don't understand.

[@kakavasha729]

I have 8GB and this is still happening. I'm on SSD too

[@XiaZ]

@@soulzyx Maybe other application like browser are also consuming your VRAM, but do note that UE will try to optimize the VRAM usage when you near the limit but in this case it's hurting the performance because of slow I/O instead. Usually in a case like this you'd want to decrease the VRAM usage by reducing the texture size but this game won't allow you to do so, I don't know why they did that :\

[@XiaZ]

@@kakavasha729 Check your VRAM usage, mine seems normal, are you using an Nvidia or AMD card?

[@soulzyx]

@@XiaZ Hm, I've monitored it with RTSS, and nothing else is taking up VRAM. I don't even have hardware acceleration enabled on Browser. It's just weird, it hasn't even reached near limit and it still has space but it's doing this "ineffecient method" replace assets. ; Load all required textures at max resolution within VRAM limit and keep until game is closed r.Streaming.FullyLoadUsedTextures=1 r.Streaming.HLODStrategy=2 r.Streaming.DropMips=0 r.Streaming.UseAllMips=0 r.Streaming.MipBias=0 r.Streaming.LimitPoolSizeToVRAM=1 I've tried this ini change, which people have claimed would help, but nothing does except the drive change.

[@JorgeSanchez-yz9wc]

My pc is pretty potato, it's a victus 15L with a ryzen 5600g and an rx 6400 with 16gb or ram. I thought my specs were the problem until I moved the game from my HDD to my m.2, the only stutters that happen now are if I try to play at the highest settings but setting it to medium seems to work pretty good and I don't notice any big frame drops

[@soulzyx]

i wouldnt call it all potato, 5600g isn't that much slower than a 5600 and that CPU is a budget beast imo. BUt yeah your rx 6400 is a huge bottleneck lol. I'm glad your stuttering got fixed like in the video from the drive change. Some people's "stutter" comes from FPS drops which is different to what im showing in the video

[@mahadotube]

you call that potato? i run the game on a i5 2400 with a gtx 1050 on low.

[@soulzyx]

@@mahadotube his is a potato, yours is a stone

[@mahadotube]

@@soulzyx it still run the game with little stutter from time to time.

[@kingmamba4267]

You know what the funny thing is.I have zero stutter when I play on mobile.When i play on PC when i eneter the game it stutters for 2 minutes after that it's ok

[@jarvis_kjellberg]

This game should not have released on mobile because it doesn't run on it...

[@wailrachedi9423]

But i have ssd m.2 and still stuttering

[@Tis-Tee-Call]

On my rx5600xt even on very low graphic setting its still struggles to stay at 60 fps so yeah, it wuthering waves problem.

[@Matthew-ut1hs]

Well look here gee guh beee.

[@azathothalter]

I hope they fix this, i have an SSD but it only have 34GB left

[@soulzyx]

Me too, I have 20GB left. I'd like to keep it on my HDD if I could 😂

[@iamyaxha]

Man, i really appreciate your every wuthering video, keep it up! Let us potato player play the gAme lmao 🤣