HDD vs SSD - How to FIX Stuttering & Frame Drops

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Ancient Gameplays

Ancient Gameplays

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@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
As always, any doubts? Leave them in the comment section :D
@TrueSonOfSkyrim
@TrueSonOfSkyrim 2 жыл бұрын
Please give us the specs (speed) of the nvme
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrueSonOfSkyrim its a normal pcie 3 nvme around 3000mbs
@TrueSonOfSkyrim
@TrueSonOfSkyrim 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙂
@shehrozaliawan3542
@shehrozaliawan3542 Жыл бұрын
Clear this thing that I have to buy 2TB SSD or i can use 128 or 250gb ssd for windows with 1TB HDD for game storage? Will the game load faster or HDD would increase the load time?
@lz8696
@lz8696 2 ай бұрын
What read and write speed do you recommend for a SSD to play without stuttering?
@L34NDR063O
@L34NDR063O 2 жыл бұрын
In some games like Cyberpunk 2077 when running on HDD, NPCs and vehicles were not generated when driving at high speed leaving the city completely empty. Running now on the SSD all NPC's and vehicles are generated normally.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats called streaming delay, the devs made ir that way so you don't have texture streaming
@brzimtrco6142
@brzimtrco6142 2 жыл бұрын
I never though that there is a difference between HDD and SSD after loading a game, but after playing spider-man remastered on my NVMe with ZERO hiccups and stuttering I believe that HDD are slowly getting obsolete.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
They are. Hdds are basically store only nowadays
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 2 жыл бұрын
true for newer games ssd is a must
@LkGhh
@LkGhh 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I realized that playing miles morales, I'm just going to put the games on the ssd now
@herax1985
@herax1985 Жыл бұрын
I was going crazy with the drops until I put the damn game on the ssd and it fixed everything
@aniening6580
@aniening6580 Ай бұрын
they are obselete
@juand.g.2602
@juand.g.2602 2 жыл бұрын
SSD for more modern games. But HDD will do really fine with older games. And having the OS in the SSD is a must. PCs go up in a blink. Thanks for the video
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed 💪
@ogaimon3380
@ogaimon3380 2 жыл бұрын
it will do but not all older game,some older game have a lot of loading times,even more if the game has mods
@sphinx-2703
@sphinx-2703 Жыл бұрын
OS?
@JayDeeFrm7400
@JayDeeFrm7400 Жыл бұрын
@@sphinx-2703 operating system
@ocgamer7072
@ocgamer7072 2 жыл бұрын
This happened to me with warzone 2.0. After ensuring everything was fine with cpu, gpu, ram and all drivers, I then realized I accidentally installed Warzone 2.0 on my HDD. I Uninstalled it and reinstalled it to my NVMe and instantly all the stuttering went away. Good video and reminder for all of us!
@miguell_l9933
@miguell_l9933 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was only me but now it's better
@timnagy-roth4215
@timnagy-roth4215 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have in Warzone Frame Drops if your put everything on high ?
@ocgamer7072
@ocgamer7072 2 жыл бұрын
@@timnagy-roth4215 are you asking if changing to the m.2 increased the fps?
@ocgamer7072
@ocgamer7072 2 жыл бұрын
@@timnagy-roth4215 the highest settings didn't drop the fps as much, I still had high FPS but having the game installed on HDD made the game unplayable 3 minutes into every map
@timnagy-roth4215
@timnagy-roth4215 2 жыл бұрын
@craig Jones yes because i get so Many Stutters and i checked everything and i Think my hdd ist the Problem of the fps Drops. Same at you ?
@Kyle-pj2vc
@Kyle-pj2vc 2 жыл бұрын
You know I wish there was a certification for games whether or not they're optimized for HDD. Some newer titles run fine on HDD, and some just simply don't. It all is dependent on what the developers test systems looked like, and what they decided to optimize they games for.
@pasha715
@pasha715 2 жыл бұрын
in my case horizon zero dawn would stutter 30-60sec, and after would be pretty much smooth, on hdd, but i had locked fps
@GuilhermeSantos-bh9kl
@GuilhermeSantos-bh9kl 2 жыл бұрын
Sou brasileiro e teu canal é o melhor sobre hardware no geral, o jeito de falar e se espressar é muito natural e espontâneo. Fica facil de assistir. Adiquiri um 6600xt recentemente por causa dos seus vídeos.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Um grande obrigado por assitir e pelas suas palavras! Um abraço
@your_freedom
@your_freedom 2 жыл бұрын
it really is! I will say more, I recently switched from sdd to m.2 NVME. It has become even more stable.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
I know right? Recent games demand more and more bandwidth in terms of data loading
@bmdshred77
@bmdshred77 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I’m so glad you made this video. I got 5600 6700xt 16 gigs ram but still using mechanical hdd as boot and gaming drive. Never knew why I was getting stuttering. I’m getting Samsung 980 dram less for Xmas from wife. I didn’t know about dram when I told her to get it. Hopefully it will at least fix stuttering and later I will get dram drive to add. Horizon stutters exactly like you said for me
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
It will be a massive difference. Enjoy 💪💪
@dmytrosoboliev935
@dmytrosoboliev935 2 жыл бұрын
HDD is completely fine for more simple or the old titles, but SSD is a must-have for modern gaming pc
@xfreejack001x
@xfreejack001x 2 жыл бұрын
no its not.. i wouldn't even use core 2 duo PC without SSD.
@coolhand4598
@coolhand4598 2 жыл бұрын
No man. Mechanical HDDs have always been one of the worst bottlenecks.. since the dawn of computer sciences. As a PC gamer from the 90s we kept looking forward for the SSD to come out.. it took decades
@dmytrosoboliev935
@dmytrosoboliev935 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolhand4598 i have 70% of my games on HDD and all you and the guy above wrote is complete bullshit. Games without huge massive open worlds, without hundreds of npc's, cars and other objects runs same on ssd or hdd. It's just the loading time that makes a little difference. So - NO
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@xfreejack001x because the slower your other parts are the more the HDD vs SSD difference will be noticed
@blueeyednick
@blueeyednick 2 жыл бұрын
More cpu and gpu cache - less stutter. Manufacturers are putting less cache in the cheaper products so that consumers continue to feel like they need more after buying them. An effective strategy is to buy last gen's higher end product instead.
@DerXXLMario
@DerXXLMario 2 жыл бұрын
This video comes just in time as I need a new hard drive for my pc. My 1tb hdd died recently so I'm stuck on my 256GB ssd which is definitely too little. I always thought only the loading time would be shorter but this stuttering does make me think I should better save for an ssd. Thx for posting as nobody else has done such a good comparison yet. Though I'd liked to see more games in comparison
@eaglegaming88
@eaglegaming88 2 жыл бұрын
Good thing is that on HDD you can read all tips on loading screen for game before you start playing :D
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
That's the pro hahaha
@kahel...
@kahel... 2 жыл бұрын
Love those kind of testing... thanks for sharing.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@justzero1525
@justzero1525 2 жыл бұрын
True Gigachad for wearing that Cowboy Bebop hoodie :D
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, its a casual T though haha
@christerwiberg1
@christerwiberg1 2 жыл бұрын
HDD on clients are pretty much dead, but in my NAS, storing pictures and such, there they have a place. In data centres storing loads of data, they will exist for a very long time as well.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
exactly my thoughts
@elinbarrage9638
@elinbarrage9638 Жыл бұрын
ty man i was actually looking for these kind of comparisons but i didnt find much on the internet u made my day!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
Great to hear
@elinbarrage9638
@elinbarrage9638 Жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays can u do a test with nvidia frame limiter vs rtss?as i have 60hz monitor and should cap the frame but i dont have a gpu to test that right now..
@flightis3dollars
@flightis3dollars 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video I moved WRC 8 and 9 from my HDD to my Windows SSD (Sata) to test and no more stutters. I now have WRC 8, 9 and 10 on a Samsung QVO 4TB and I can finally enjoy those games properly. Thanks!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@FascistDream
@FascistDream 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for this, man! Since I watch your videos I’ve learned a lot! And you are always here to answer questions, you’re just the best!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 💪💪
@sL1NK
@sL1NK 2 жыл бұрын
Question: do faster drives have better 1% lows? E.g. I'm using a 1TB KC3000 (7000/6000 mbps) as my main drive, but I have tons of games on a 1TB A2000 (2200/2000 mbps). Load time differences are almost non-existent, but could there be a difference in 1% lows?
@MrMeanh
@MrMeanh 2 жыл бұрын
I would say no, this since the small random read/writes (that games mostly "uses" for asset streaming and what is impacting the lows in most of these cases) isn't much better/faster on the fastest Nvme's compared to regular Sata SSD's.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely not, it could be true to a certain extend IF (and only if) the SSD was being the bottleneck as it happened on the HDDs
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
As for the radon red/writes i have to disagree, a decent NVME has quite higher randoms then a sata nvme, not even comparable
@wakingfromslumber9555
@wakingfromslumber9555 Жыл бұрын
Yeah my 8 year old sata ssd was the cause of micro stuttering and when I put my OS as well and some games on to the NVME the random micro stutters faded away. These micro stutters would occur when too many things such as explosions were happening at once. So even with a Sata SSD the difference is noticeable.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
Not really, i believe your sata ssd is just in the limit of its life
@BravenTyler
@BravenTyler 2 жыл бұрын
Question, I'm getting an error trying to install newest optional drivers. Even after DDU, it's still giving me this error. I'm able to install pro drivers and recommended drivers but not optional ones. I did one time, and reverted to recommended after battlefield 2042 crashed a lot. Is this a common issue with people? Also using 5700xt and Windows 11 if that helps. Thank you
@raoufbakhti7786
@raoufbakhti7786 2 жыл бұрын
What about Rust, Rust can take 40 min on hdd on the other can take about 2 ~5 min on ssd
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Damn son xD
@ChibiTheEdgehog
@ChibiTheEdgehog 2 жыл бұрын
Phew, glad I have an SDHDD with a 16GB SDD cache. It's not as fast ass an SDD but it is a whole lot better than spinning rust alone
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
True indeed
@ogaimon3380
@ogaimon3380 2 жыл бұрын
modding skyrim is how i got into ssd for games only had for windows before,i had 1mn+waiting time on HDD and you have lots of loading time,then it got crazy when i tried installing texture mods it's pretty much unplayable without ssd
@oniidante
@oniidante 8 ай бұрын
@ancientgameplays so i have this stutter problem and it looks exactly the same as the hdd sample video but i have an ssd but its not really known they are: 1tb Silicon Power Ace A55 and 500gb crucial p1 can they be the problem? i dont want to spend extra money and end up not benefitting from it
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 8 ай бұрын
Might also be lack of vram or ram.
@oniidante
@oniidante 8 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays might be, but im getting this problem constantly with games like league and overwatch which they dont really need that much of vram (my gpu is rtx 2060 6gb vram)
@oniidante
@oniidante 8 ай бұрын
Oh also i have 32gigs of ram
@freewrite2733
@freewrite2733 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that. I don't think some people are even aware of this, as I wasn't for awhile. If your internet is fast but you're using an HDD to download games off of steam, your HDD can actually be bottlenecking your download. Your CPU can as well, but if you still have an HDD lingering around .. your download will stop/start a lot. Whereas on my SSD it's a constant stream of data. I will only download smaller games on my HDD.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I have a 1gbps internet and hdds will usually "bottleneck" the download, but that's normal
@UrielVentris1984
@UrielVentris1984 Жыл бұрын
thats not entirely correct. i use ssds and hdds the download rate is the same its dependent onley upon your internet speed, i used sata ssds exlcusively and nvme and never noticed an increase or decrease using ether for downloading from the internet.
@OldMX
@OldMX 2 жыл бұрын
I short stroke mechanical disks used for games, 66% is usually ok, then format to ntfs with a 64kb allocation unit size, disable indexing and never have issues this way. btw, Fabio your hair is super long my friend, looks awesome!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah, thank you 💪💪
@madristareal5834
@madristareal5834 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel, Keep it up!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@user-bn8rf1nw1h
@user-bn8rf1nw1h 2 жыл бұрын
What about dramless nvme ssd with HMB like team mp33 or samsung 980, etc should i care about dram on nvme ssd?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, too much money for the perf difference
@HanCurunyr
@HanCurunyr 2 жыл бұрын
The 1st game I played that put my HDD to scream and became a stutter fest was Immortals Fenyx Rising, from Ubisoft, moved the game to a NVMe SSD, and suddenly, smooth as butter, and that behaviour is becoming more and more commom, FF7 Remake, Spider Man Remastered, even CoD Warzone runs way better in a SSD
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap, the data streaming is just way bigger as software is developed towards the hardware we have recently.
@registeredblindgamer4350
@registeredblindgamer4350 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I only have SSD's in my system. 2 SATA and one PCIE 4 NVME.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
I am currently doing the same, will leave the 4tb one, and will get another 2tb nvme when i get zen4
@registeredblindgamer4350
@registeredblindgamer4350 2 жыл бұрын
That'll be very nice. I am hoping to do the same next year once prices come down for Zen 4 and hopefully all the bleeding edge issues will be fixed by then too.
@MiSTiK199
@MiSTiK199 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful tests, thank you!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome :D
@t1luso609
@t1luso609 2 жыл бұрын
a PC without ssd is a car without wheels. I had my first PC with ssd back in 2017/2018. and it was massive speed I couldn't believe it. I had like a 4th gen dell PC with HDD and I couldn't use that. Nowadays I have 2 SSDs with 1TB (MX500) and I'm happy for loading times as well for performance.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
yeap. but most people still have SSD for system and some games, and a HDD for the rest of the games and data
@juliangutierrez8446
@juliangutierrez8446 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the same on Spider-man the last week I played all the week, I had it on my normal sd a Crucial BX500 or something like that, I had to move it to my NVME WD Black SN750 to not to see those load times, moving around the city.
@erwinmatic5062
@erwinmatic5062 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a new NVME ssd. Were you using the Kingston NV1? It's the cheapest 2tb nvme I could find. I plan to use it strictly for installing games, no operating sytstem.. Your reply would be much appreciated.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Its a great nvme, don't worry about it
@idrisalmamri6612
@idrisalmamri6612 Жыл бұрын
Is there any difference between nvme and SATA SSDs? Like stutter and load time?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
Not much, but may be there in some games
@stealthhunter6998
@stealthhunter6998 3 күн бұрын
I have 3 questions: 1. PCIe 5 SSDs dont do absolutely anything for load time basically (margin of error difference really to PCIe 4) but does it improve smoothness and eliminate or midigate stutters in UE5 games notorious for the issue or a game like dead space remake? 2. Does having OS on a seperate SSD to the games matter? 3. Does having games on an SSD connected to a chipset PCIe lane rather than a CPU PCIe lane matter (connected to question 2 because having 2 seperate SSDs most of the time means one has to go on the chipset m.2 slot). Furthermore is having the OS on the chipset lanes and games ssd on the cpu lane a stupid idea to avoid an issue or would u be causing one?
@Gamer-df9xt
@Gamer-df9xt 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do a comparison with a WD Black performance HDD vs SSD?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
It would be within the same of the hdd results here
@lukasvincourcz7043
@lukasvincourcz7043 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea why windows uses so much of my hdd when ram usage goes to 96%? (I have hdd and only 4 gb of ram)
@mg86_
@mg86_ 2 жыл бұрын
windows is using your hard drive as virtual memory when you run out of ram
@lukasvincourcz7043
@lukasvincourcz7043 2 жыл бұрын
@@mg86_ is there a way to disable that feature?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Its called page file. Windows needs to use the hdd as ram. 4gb ram man? Damn
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
If you disable that feature you get Bluescreens
@lukasvincourcz7043
@lukasvincourcz7043 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays yeah its quite low amount of ram (sadly) though i had weird behavior while installing the rockstar thing when you download GTA V for 1st time it literally caused WerFault.exe process to stop working and forced me to do hard reset (3 times or 4 times then it succeeded)
@rofidarmawan5496
@rofidarmawan5496 2 жыл бұрын
have you ever try amd raid? i use it and the speed was almost catching my ssd speed, almost tho
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
A normal nvme will have at least 3000mb/s nowadays, two fast HDDs in RAID 0 won't even get close to that, and well, you can also RAID 0 your nvme SSDs.. Still, i get your point, but an SSD is just much better. Smaller, zero noise and lower power draw
@zdenkakoren6660
@zdenkakoren6660 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please test 2x hdd in RAID 0 ?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Would be faster, not 2x faster though
@rodrigofigueira3071
@rodrigofigueira3071 3 ай бұрын
Boas mano pergunta. Tenho um Samsung 980 que vou mandar para a garantia, ultimamente estou cheio de breaks, ecrãs azuis e freezes completos em que o áudio continua. Guess what troquei tudo no pc menos o ssd. Como é que isto é possível? O samaung magician não deteta nada mas no crystal mark às vezes tem umas quedas estranhas de velocidade. Alguma vez aconteceu te?
@SeminarChauffeur
@SeminarChauffeur 2 жыл бұрын
Can I also expect the same degree of improvement in a SATA ssd?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
It will also improve a lot from an hdd definitely
@cosminiftime7911
@cosminiftime7911 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mister.I have a big question and maybe you can help me out with it please...i have a HDD of 2 TB and i observe some ministuttering in any game i play ,with specs like RTX 3060 Ti 256-bit,Intel i7-12700KF, 32 GB ram and G-sync ultimate monitor with 240 Hz refresh rate.My question is,if i will replace that HDD with a samsung 990 PRO SSD,there are some changes to get rid of stuttering? because i observe that i have stuttering mostly when i enter first time in the match of a game.for exemple,if my fps drop from 150 to 147,i have stutter...can you please help me out?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, if you see the video you can see that the hdd is the issue in most recent games 💪💪
@cosminiftime7911
@cosminiftime7911 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays so is a big change to have a smooth gameplay if i replace my old SSD and my HDD with 2 samsung 980 PRO?is really weird because i cap my fps at 150 and i have a constant 150-149 fps but i still have stutter with G-sync.I just want to know if there is a change to solve it or...to give up on gaming because this is drive me insane....after all that money spent,to still have stutter...And i asked for your response because you inspire me some trust after all your videos and you are the only one who can really give me a honest answer..
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@cosminiftime7911 its hard to know exactly since even you don't know the exact issue, but an SSD is a MUST nowadays, there'snothing to regret about it. Go for it
@cosminiftime7911
@cosminiftime7911 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays i try to find the issue since 4 years...but without succes.I will give it a try,and my last change before i sell it all....thank you for your asnwer mister,i really appreciate it
@pasha715
@pasha715 2 жыл бұрын
ssd with 2100 MB/s speeds, do u think it would be good enough for games?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
More than enough
@pasha715
@pasha715 2 жыл бұрын
​@@AncientGameplays thanks
@cellshade87
@cellshade87 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the help.👍 I couldn't figure out why some of my single player games were stuttering and lagging, even during high FPS. I'm playing Resident Evil Village and the stuttering and lag is terrible and constant. I couldn't figure out what the problem was. I played Battlefield 3 before Resident Evil Village and I was getting some stuttering in that game too. It's not anywhere near as bad as Resident Evil Village using an HDD.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
Yeah, nowadays an ssd is required
@cellshade87
@cellshade87 Жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Thanks again👍. It was so frustrating not knowing what the problem was. I didn't know what SSD and an HDD was. I just thought all hard drives were the same with different amounts of space on it. Some of my games were playing exactly like your example of Horizon Zero Dawn gameplay.
@HELL_HOUND13
@HELL_HOUND13 2 жыл бұрын
does a higher read/write speeds matter with a m.2?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
It does, but even the cheaper ones have around 3000mb/s noe
@tkd4
@tkd4 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on amd store MI . This is a way to make loading from HDD way faster by utilizing an ssd boot drive.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Basically they use the SSD as "virtual memory" I suppose
@m_sedziwoj
@m_sedziwoj 2 жыл бұрын
HDD to SSD is at same scale of improvements as 1 core to 2 cores was. I bough first Intel SSD, person which sold it get it as reward from Intel competition, only 80GB, but I never go back to HDD (I still using HDD as storage, but not for boot drive, apps or games)
@SplachingProduction
@SplachingProduction 2 жыл бұрын
I personally use primo cache to stop stuttering :) and it works! (ram cache on hdd)
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
but for that you need to have lots of RAM i suppose?
@SplachingProduction
@SplachingProduction 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays yes exactly! I have 32gbs of ram so I dedicate like 4 gbs of ram for my disk :)
@SplachingProduction
@SplachingProduction 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays I recommend you to try the free trial for test :)
@jamesFX3
@jamesFX3 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Not exactly, Really depends on what you want to do with it since you can allocate as much or as little ram as you like as ramcache (L1 cache). You can Also do what I did with Primo cache and use both L1 to ram plus L2 cache to a spare ssd, you can set it to Flush L1 cache once/if allocated ram is full to L2 cache on the spare ssd (need to set a dedicated partition for Primo cache L2 Storage) It was pretty cost effective and hassle free process overall since I didn't have to change anything in my system other than add an extra ssd (smallest fastest and cheapest ssd I could find) and dedicate it as L2 storage drive and set the individual Read/Write cache space all to 100% read which ment that my hdd would read files like it's on an ssd but writes files like an hdd. which is slow I know, especially during installs but write speeds doesn't really affect games as much as read speeds plus it reduces stress on the spare ssd that has l2 storage drive. The only thing I would caution anyone from using l2 cache is that there is a small possibilty of data corruption with defffered write (setting you need enabled to speedup caching, also contains the flush L1 cache to L2 cache option) Especially during sudden power outage and you don't have a UPS, There's also the fact that the effects on loading aren't emediate (on L2 cache) on first run of the application/games you have cached, it'll only take effect after the second time you load up that app and primocache has it saved in L2 storage. Frm time to time I would also pause the cache task when I'm installing something on the hdd to reduce unneeded stress on the spare ssd with the L2 storage on it, and in some cases I would even delete the cache task completely if I'm installing something really big (100gb+ for GTA5) cause read and write activity is really high during installation and depending on how much L2 storage you have it can get filled up fast during installion (Not really a problem if you only have L1 caching enabled in PrimoCache and have lots of ram) so it's something to keep in mind when using PrimoCache.
@UrielVentris1984
@UrielVentris1984 Жыл бұрын
i do too but i need more ram.
@chrisredfield5278
@chrisredfield5278 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for your great videos. do you suggest smart access memory with 6500 xt?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap, overall yes. Watch my 6500xt comparison videos, i show sam results there
@rRe1d
@rRe1d 2 жыл бұрын
Hi ancient good to see you again, i have 512nvm2 and 2tb hdd 7200mrp its enouth? o do you recommended change my nvme 512gb to 1tb?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
not unless you need more space. You're good to go
@RedEverything
@RedEverything 2 жыл бұрын
That meme is funny and reminds me that as a teenager I would imitate GTA San Andreas NPCs to make my friends laugh.😂
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Hahhaa
@destrozadorable
@destrozadorable 2 жыл бұрын
bro, recomendarías adquirir uno de 1Tb o solo con uno de 250 gb solo para el sistema operativo?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
I would say a 250gb for windows and 1TB for games would be nice :D
@dmytrosoboliev935
@dmytrosoboliev935 2 жыл бұрын
real time npc is fire 😆 remids me of oblivion npcs irl videos
@bivalyolo
@bivalyolo 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Fabio Any idea why does a single but rather significant fps drop happen in a particular game (Company of Heroes 2)? Thing runs smoothly for a few minutes then all of a sudden my fps is being halved. I've tried so many things to fix it, but I'm about to give up and accept it is what it is.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that is a cpu bottleneck. Happens the same way on Crusader Kings 3 as I advance in the game
@bivalyolo
@bivalyolo 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Tried to limit my fps to a lower value to alleviate the cpu bottleneck as you suggested but same thing happens.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@bivalyolo limiting the fps in that situation makes absolutely nothing as the CPU bottleneck is in terms of power, not number of cores. What CPU do you have? I have a 5600X with GOOD RAM, and even that way I get smashed by the CK3 AI
@bivalyolo
@bivalyolo 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays 3700x with samsung b die memory running at 3600cl14 with tuned subtimings as well
@vladyslavdiumin4124
@vladyslavdiumin4124 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great content for gamers! Much appreciated!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
You're welcome 💪💪
@AintPopular
@AintPopular Жыл бұрын
Hey there, Can you check Nvme temps while in game without alt tabbing? or thats the only way
@Opstuius
@Opstuius 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm having a problem with my RX 6400, whenever my VRAM is close to being full both of my monitors flicker for some reason. is there any fix for this?
@alishokri315
@alishokri315 2 жыл бұрын
i have 256 GB SSD and 1TB HDD. i installed Windows in SSD. For these result , i have to install game in SSD ? Thanks
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Windows must always be on a ssd, but if possible get another ssd for games
@Komarick
@Komarick Жыл бұрын
Hello, I got micro stuttering by playing gow an warzone 2 on my pc with an x570, 5800x, 7900xtx, 32gb ram 3200 and an Samsung 850 evo SSD. I got the same gpu watt drops as you can see in your video when the stutter appears. Any idea why this happens?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
Hey hey, update bios, and check ram and cpu stability. Also that cpu is bottlenecking quite hard. Also, try limiting your fps
@Komarick
@Komarick Жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays it’s all up to date. Today I tried to play the games with an rtx4080 and the stutter was gone. I hoped that the gpu wasn’t the problem, but it is. I got the same issues before with an 6900xt. I think the amd gpus can’t handle it as good as the Nvidia gpus.
@vincenzodaniele2768
@vincenzodaniele2768 2 жыл бұрын
Ssd Sata is good? Or only nvme?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
sata ssd is already quite better than the nvme and will most likely reduce or eliminate stutters, but nvme is the way to go
@hocine9664
@hocine9664 2 жыл бұрын
as always thanks for videoalways nice and good contente !!have fun and enjoyed your time!u have my support !take care
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my man!
@m.a.a94
@m.a.a94 2 жыл бұрын
Olá, Fábio! Infelizmente stutters são muito desagradáveis e sempre um mistério. Estragam completamente a experiência. Btw, você não pretende usar mais a RX 6600 XT nos testes?
@GuilhermeSantos-bh9kl
@GuilhermeSantos-bh9kl 2 жыл бұрын
Eu tenho uma 6600xt e gosto muito. Realmente esses stutters sao chatos, vou trocar meu hd de 1tb por um ssd ate o final do ano pra ver se acabam com essas travadinhas.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Viva Marlon, pretendo sim, em alguns uso, noutros não, depende do tópico. Recentemente usei no video de 6600XT vs 6700 vs 6700XT
@PixelByte
@PixelByte 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video what about RAID 0? i have 4 HDDS 1TB black WD to raid 0 so 4TB and running 650mb read write :P
@Coffeeenjoyer31
@Coffeeenjoyer31 2 жыл бұрын
Which driver version were you using for the fortnite testing? I have an rx 6600 with 22.5.1 however it says there is issue with driver when I launch. And I tried 22.8.2 but it causes system instability. Thanks for all the AMD videos it really helps out
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
I am using 22.8.2
@JayDeeFrm7400
@JayDeeFrm7400 Жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays any recommendations on drivers for specific to apex legends on the 6600xt
@Ilya_Parfyon
@Ilya_Parfyon 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, what program do you measure FPS with
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, msi afterburner
@Ilya_Parfyon
@Ilya_Parfyon 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays thank you so much
@i_Vex169
@i_Vex169 8 ай бұрын
Does using sata ssd make stutters good as nvme ?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 8 ай бұрын
Much better than an hdd for sure
@prabhakardhar1379
@prabhakardhar1379 2 жыл бұрын
if i have installed windows on my 1st partition of ssd, can i install games on 2nd partition of that ssd/nvme?? will it slow down the whole system because both actions are performing on sane ssd/nvme? and again excellent video fabio 🔥
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
You can, if the disk as space enough
@prabhakardhar1379
@prabhakardhar1379 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays how much free space should i maintain?
@Yas_Sin
@Yas_Sin 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video as usual Fabio, by the way was windows installed on the HDD you were testing with ? because that can make a difference as well, great content buddy, keep up the good work, cheers !
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Installed both on a different ssd. Thst would be even worse...
@Yas_Sin
@Yas_Sin 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Exactly, that's what i had in mind
@Антон-у3я
@Антон-у3я 2 жыл бұрын
what is the best driver for rx 6500 xt? I use 22.5.1 and black screen problem?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
You should have no issues, something is off or missing there
@jay-d8g3v
@jay-d8g3v 2 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR WINDOWS PRO KEY FOR 15, Finally built a new system and wanted to get away from the garbage one I had on my old PC, it's great :)))
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the trust. In 3 years never had a single problem with gvgmall 💪💪
@jay-d8g3v
@jay-d8g3v 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays they were quick to deliver too, within a few minutes I had the key 🔐
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@jay-d8g3v Great!
@szczypior6923
@szczypior6923 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i need help. I have a rtx 3050 and i5-12500. Idk why but when i have something lower than 80 fps in games my screen feels laggy i dont know how to explain it. Tried turning my g sync or v sync but it doesnt look like it helped. I have 27' 1920x1080 monitor so i hope it isnt my monitor fault. I also have microstuttering on hdd disk of course but every game i play will have sometimes microstuttering when something appears like mission info or items i picked. Hope you can help with my problem beacuse ive been having this for the time i build this pc and started to play more gpu using games.
@boitumelobee3994
@boitumelobee3994 2 жыл бұрын
Which app. Do you use. To see the FPs
@wakwak7903
@wakwak7903 2 жыл бұрын
MSI afterburner
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Msi afterburner
@TiagoAP2000
@TiagoAP2000 2 жыл бұрын
Achava que era apenas um problema do meu computador a rodar o Horizon.Bastou trocar a drive em que tinha o jogo e resolveu. Obrigado pela ajuda, deixei de ter stutters!
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
De nada, um abraço!
@corplftw
@corplftw 2 жыл бұрын
Fabio slowly turning into Gaming jesus 😂
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah 💪💪
@hwi7114
@hwi7114 2 жыл бұрын
I recently reinstalled Skyrim on my newest system that has Gen 4 NVMe (Max Read 7415 MBps, Max Write 6800 MBps), it loads so fast that I don't even have time to read the load screen tips. So I guess that HDDs do have the benefit of being slow enough to allow you read load screen tips. lol Edit: I bought my first SSD back in 2012, was like $180 for 240GB. That was when they were still SATA, way before NVMe, but even still it made a huge difference coming from a 7200rpm HDD. The newest NVMe SSD's are leagues faster.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I bought my first one in 2012 and it was €120 for 120GB xD
@coolhand4598
@coolhand4598 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see someone wearing a surgical mask I immediately think NPC
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣💪💪
@erwinmatic5062
@erwinmatic5062 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing pls make a video about the loading and fps diffrerence in sata ssd's vs NVME's.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
the difference there would be zero apart from a small difference in load times
@RenatoC.g
@RenatoC.g Жыл бұрын
Could you make a comparison of ssd sata to ssd m.2 nvme?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
Wont notice much difference
@RenatoC.g
@RenatoC.g Жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Even when fps is locked in games, i have stutters at time, they are few but The happen and for no apparent reason. Do you know what it could be? I use 3060ti, i5 10400f and sata ssd
@Neutron_Starr
@Neutron_Starr 2 жыл бұрын
Please I want to know which driver version should I use for my rx 6600 gpu I am so much irritated with that stuttering that I just can't take it anymore And even 144fps seem stuttery What should I do I have 22.7.1 right now
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
You have something off there. Tell me your full build
@Neutron_Starr
@Neutron_Starr 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays i5 10400 Rx 6600 8x2GB ram 550W psu H410 mobo
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neutron_Starr that seems a psu or mobo issue, or maybe something you're doing wrong
@Neutron_Starr
@Neutron_Starr 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays I mean it's a stuttering in nfs heat and gta 5 and not other games like doom eternal or cyberpunk
@ggarethgg8493
@ggarethgg8493 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, love all the vids that you do so helpful in so many ways, Just wanted to ask could you do some vids using the RX 6750 XT please !
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Hey hey, I could do them, if I had the card haha
@ggarethgg8493
@ggarethgg8493 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays hahaha you have soooo many :) are they only available in some regions ?
@jemborg
@jemborg 2 жыл бұрын
Well that was a real eye opener Fabio. I've been experimenting with _PrimoCache_ myself lately. Also set it up on a couple of friends rigs. It's very impressive. I'm using a 340GB partition on my system SSD for the cache. I'm also, going to experiment with _Process Lasso_ I reckon. Regards from Oz 🇦🇺👍
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting, big hug :D
@tackier-n2g
@tackier-n2g 2 жыл бұрын
God don't even get me started on Fallen Order, it was completely unplayable no matter what I did, absolutely terribly optimized game. I can thank it for getting me into overclocking though.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Bad things may lead to good ones haha
@jprec5174
@jprec5174 2 жыл бұрын
Played great on ps4
@MohaModzClipzOfc
@MohaModzClipzOfc Жыл бұрын
To tendo mts stutterings em alguns jogos, sera q é por conta do hd? Nao está fragmentado, uso o ssd só para o windows, alguns jogos rodam sem problema, mas resident evil 7 em especifico, anda tendo muitos stutterings no hd, ja testei no ssd e parecia ter resolvido, como isso é possivel? Testei o resident evil 7 em diferentes Hds, em diferentes pcs, e o stuttrring estava presente, sendo que quando eu jogava re7 no Ps4, com um hd ainda mais lento, nao havia stutterings, e tbm ja coloquei osgraficos no minimo e nao mudou nada
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
Provavelmente é sim
@Fb-pl7zq
@Fb-pl7zq Жыл бұрын
Hello. Until I upgrade the new system, I paired the AMD fx 6300 processor and the rx 6400 graphics card. I have an hdd and 8gb ddr3 1333mhz ram in my system and it stutters occasionally in games. Do you think if I buy an ssd, will this problem be fixed, at least for games that require 5 gb ram.If I add another 8gb ram, will the stutter go away in all games?GPU usage varies between 40% 60% 70% 80% depending on the game. Usually there is a problem in open world car racing games, open world thanks.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
My man, you have the worst possible situation. BIG cpu bottleneck with a HUGE ram bottleneck. On top of that, that cpu only support pcie3, so the card performs even worse...
@Fb-pl7zq
@Fb-pl7zq Жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Thank you for your reply. I know my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu.I'm trying to reduce this by making the cpu oc to 4.2ghz.But this problem happens even with old gpu hd7750 which is not bottleneck.I have this problem even in old games in games where 1gb 3gb 5gb ram is enough.I don't know if my problem will be fixed by adding ssd and +8gb ram. I also suspect my psu. It gives low voltage from 3.3v 12v and 5v channels.
@Fb-pl7zq
@Fb-pl7zq Жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays I'm going to buy a ryzen 5 5500, 500gb nvm2 ssd and 16gb ddr4 3200mhz ram soon will this solve the whole problem? Should I replace the power supply if the problem persists? Thanks
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays Жыл бұрын
@@Fb-pl7zq you computer will perform MUUUCCHH faster, in anything
@faridumar1219
@faridumar1219 Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot bro !!
@thevindictive6145
@thevindictive6145 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly could not notice. Only thing I saw was the spikes, then yes maybe something not right. But load times are a pain.
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
You couldnt notice it? Severe stutters? They can be noticed even on video, and when going to gameplay they're a pain in the ass
@marcasswellbmd6922
@marcasswellbmd6922 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, I don't miss the Old days of Hard Drives..
@xXStatiXx
@xXStatiXx 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, i really tried to play Jedi fallen for Years, from a rx 570 to a rx 6600 xt but the stutters are a mess and a big pain in the Eyes in both of them so can't do anything else than skip that awesome game :,(
@raycruit
@raycruit 2 жыл бұрын
It was playable for me with rx 6650 xt 22.5.1 drivers on ssd, stutters existed but it wasn’t gamebreaking (unlike the gameplay in this video). Fabio’s setup is not ideal for all games because he is on optional drivers
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
that's why I said that if you wanted to play this game on RX 6000 series you would need to go for 22.5.1 drivers and use an SSD :D
@raycruit
@raycruit 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays yea, just wanted to tell him so he give it a second try, it was a great game i really enjoyed it
@xXStatiXx
@xXStatiXx 2 жыл бұрын
@@raycruit will try again using an nvme with the 22.5.1, thanks for the tips ;)
@rasporilac
@rasporilac 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man this hdd is not good enough, can you try WD Black vs SSD or WD Gold that would be nice to watch 😁
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Well the wd black is barely faster than this. This HDD is GOOD. 2tb, plenty of buffer and 7200rpm 💪
@kerroummokhtar2934
@kerroummokhtar2934 2 жыл бұрын
how about ssd sata vs hdd raid 0
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
You can raid on a ssd as well. That depends on the hdds as well, but should be better, not as good as the ssd though
@DhalonTech
@DhalonTech 4 ай бұрын
What if I have SSD + HDD in my system? In every system I had I always had microstutters. Is it caused by the HDD? How to find the cause?
@mielquizon784
@mielquizon784 2 жыл бұрын
in my country many people not buy SSD in their budget build because they think it only help the loading times sometimes they buy a gaming pc with rtx cards that have 2tb Hdd rather have 1tb ssd they not know SSD helps alot on application and boot up it really help if you always disconnected on game so you can reconnect Quickly hahah
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
That's harsh to hearlol
@bowriing
@bowriing 2 жыл бұрын
Even though a SATA SSD is slower than a M.2 SSD, can the M.2 cause more stutters given the fact that is using GPU/PCIE Lanes can it cause interference leading to these stutters?
@MrTHORN74
@MrTHORN74 2 жыл бұрын
If your mobo is layed out correctly then you shouldn't have pcie lanes crosstalk. But the throughput of nvme should kill a sata SSD. I just don't think any game is really going to take advantage of that higher throughput yet.
@bowriing
@bowriing 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTHORN74 I get you everything is in it's correct place I was just wondering although it has higher speeds could it be less table because of the higher frequencies
@MrTHORN74
@MrTHORN74 2 жыл бұрын
@@bowriing the mobo manufacturers test for that kind of interference and design the board in such a way that it should not happen. That part of why they are getting more expensive, it's getting harder to do without getting parts interfering. As speed goes up the path traces need to get shorter to maintain the faster speeds.
@bowriing
@bowriing 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTHORN74 okay thankyou so either will have no effect on stuttering in games?
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, unless you have some issue there
@AintPopular
@AintPopular 2 жыл бұрын
does running ssd at half speed cause microstutter? mines run at 300mb rather than 560mb and its causing micro stutter
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, thats not it. The ssd never runs at full speed in all cases. Also, you have a sata3 ssd which is slower than a nvme one
@nasosrevis
@nasosrevis 2 жыл бұрын
metro exodus runs fine in hdd,metro exodus enhanced runs terrible in same hdd,stuttering/frame drops dramatically,transfer it in rog strix arion and runs perfect 3900x and 3060ti/32gb ram 3200/cl 16
@AncientGameplays
@AncientGameplays 2 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@nasosrevis
@nasosrevis 2 жыл бұрын
@@AncientGameplays 😂
@swede7581
@swede7581 5 ай бұрын
QUESTION ABOUT THIS WITH SSD VS HDD and sata ssd for gaming??? Sadly i suck at things w hardware and this n dont really know what is needed in speeds to get a good gaming time(ssd for example is great for games but how about SATA SSD?) sata vs external ssd speeds? i have only sata left for a ssd or hdd in my pc is there anything better w sata vs external ssd and if it is should i upgrade my pc w this slower SATA instead of getting a bigger external ssd in the future? i know SATA ssd is much slower,but so long as it runs my games with no issues i dont really care(its the onlything i use this pc for anyway) SATA SSd vs external SSd?? what is best for gaming External ssd(usb3.1 1050mb/s read/1000mb/s write accordingly to the box my ext.SSD was in at purchase"So not fastest or slowest,just ok budget version kingston xs1000 2tb)... hope i could explaine myself what i need drives for(only gaming) and i dont know how a SATA SSD are for just gaming(i only used external and internal ssd before) But is it just about as good for gaming or is it just to slow in 2024 (or is the externals slower or what exactly??) Sorry for this mess called my mind...mmm Thanks 4 all+answer about some things i didnt know..
@oOTheMastaOo240
@oOTheMastaOo240 Жыл бұрын
When playing cod I noticed the stuttering was really bad when I first enter a match and sometimes it stutters every 5 seconds. Hoping that moving to a ssd fixes this
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