Why Does Miquella Want An Eclipse?

[@agtjake]

Happy Eclipse Day! Totally didn't plan that out or anything 👀 Join the Discord: discord.gg/Cm8ZvNf7MC

[@lixydead3665]

just to throw it to the window and catch it if you want but what if massmir despite being the child of marika he maybe the cause of the seduction and betrayal as the old man in the picture was with marika being a tarnished and most of the old times tarnished people get blessed by the aspect of the crusable either growing horns and what not and that tarnished person was a type of a vassile for outer power that marika married and massmir is their child ,marika killed the old man with what it looks like golden version of the black nife looking weapon,massimer grew not know his father and being part of the blessings growing with a type of curse that in my opinion being a dragon born likeish i know he more likely to be eating dragons hearts than that but so far we do not see dragons in the traillers,maybe massmir is what i think as blessed with dragon power and eyes or he happened to be in the land between fighting along side with godfry and killing both gaints and dragons((i say that by the look on the gaints being impailed with so close like the weapon massmir holding,not so sure about it being presented as tree like roots so massmir came from a collection of blessings as life as whole was part of one thing and he got the snake,dragon combo or other explination we would find by playing the dlc the old man being a tarnished who was leading the land and roling over it and Marika betrayed him and now she realized the golden order then she flips it back to the tarnished to set the records straight also i say that because of the 3 buterflies around the land between from smoldering fire in nature and massimir should be as well as the rotten butterfly for the blade of miquelia aka malenia and the naithan/revealing looking butterfly for miquelia

[@pixelatedpyrotechnic]

FromSoftware causing a real life eclipse to boost hype for the dlc shows why they are the best game developers

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

Now that's marketing!

[@zack_feldman]

True dedication.

[@jamiequieta1092]

Only Miyazaki could pull off a stunt like this

[@RH1812]

😄🍷

[@knasigboll]

Releasing it on the summer solstice is also a pretty sus move

[@andrea5737]

Also, Miquella actually tried to bring about the Eclipse, think about it: the Eclipse implies that the Moon covers the Sun, so for this to happen, the stars have to be moving - however, Radahn held back the stars. And that's why Malenia tried to kill him during the Shattering, in order to make the Eclipse happen (that's also why Malenia ignored and spared Godrick - he wasn't her goal, she didn't want to kill without a purpose). In fact, Miyazaki confirmed we have to kill Radahn to enter the DLC. There are also at least two other meanings to the "Eclipse": one, the Night of the Black Knives, which was, at least thematically, an Eclipse (the Moon, Ranni, and the Sun, Godwyn, overlapping in death); the other, whatever the DLC tree is (it's speculation, but I assume the "leaking" tree is the real Erdtree, which we know is as important as the Sun, and the tree strangling it is Godwyn's Deathroot Tree, especially since we see its roots, but never the tree itself - so again, an Eclipse of the Sun, aka Death strangling Life).

[@Blip_OwO]

I just recently noticed The erdtree in game is completely wrong on the map It doesn’t overlap the deeproot depths and the tree on the overworld map is placed wrong too

[@Galamoth06]

​@@Blip_OwOZullie just did a video about this that might be informative.

[@Pp-sr4cs]

If Melania going for Radahn was a must it explains why she fought him the way she did. She was willing to die for that goal for and I think she knew it may go that route before the fight. There was 0 hesitation in her actions, and for someone who takes pride in the fact that that person is undefeated, couldn't stay cold in a heat of action. Radahn was the strongest, and she knew. Miquella did too.

[@Galamoth06]

@@Pp-sr4cs The fact she failed to actually kill Radahn makes it all the more tragic.

[@MonstrousRegiment]

With Mohg having kidnapped him and moved his cocoon beneath that battle field (probably to take advantage of that bloodshed), I foresee another potential fight related to the corruption from the Formless Mother.

[@basmentmage3290]

Oh cool and eclipse! (thinks about beserk) wait....NO NO NOOOOOO

[@eternalhistory4706]

Remember dark souls 3’s eclipse

[@revengance4149]

HAIIIII YAIIII FOOOOORRRRRCCCCCEEESS

[@RitoDraws]

The timing is actually wild

[@sable7687]

planned, more like.

[@DDazzle1]

You think it was a coincidence?

[@Nube_Negrah]

After attending a watch party for Todays eclipse (April 8th, 2024), the line about "onlookers unable to move their gaze" hits deeper. hundreds of ppl were just looking up at the sky in silence(aside from some "wows"). It was kinda eerie It was kinda

[@miltonmorales5512]

Elden ring visuals with elder scrolls music brings a tear to my eye😢

[@myztiklee]

Skyrim OST makes everything better 😭💚

[@greyhackley8581]

limgrave has that skyrim feeling 100, it’s cuz of the music

[@jayweaver7093]

@@greyhackley8581 I thought I was the only one! So many games have some of the same keys and its chefs kiss.

[@ReneAensland]

Miquella is one of the most interesting characters and we know little of him. Thanks for this video, Miquella is also known for his Needles and he's depicted in his own city as an adult male holding a gigantic needle, probably for Godwyn.

[@Phyren-king]

Guts in the corner “no no no wait wait wait”

[@pleb_named_luca]

Wow, the snake ring is such a cool detail - I’ve never noticed that before. Gotta be related to Messmer, right (maybe a gift)?

[@russellsage1536]

I don't participate in lore discussion so I'm not well versed but could the eclipse represent lunar princess ranni blocking the sun (godwyn the golden) to create a shadow. Weren't Miquella and Ranni compatriots in some way as seen by the torrent connection. Could Miquella have sacrificed godwyn his self to get to the shadow realm by helping orchestrate the night of the black knives? There has to be some connection between the eclipse and the moon.

[@fallatiuso]

You know, i wonder: His soul was killed, but his body was left alive. What if the tremendous transformation was because something _moved in?_ A living body without a soul is but a empty vessel, free for the picking. The question then would be _what_ could have found its residence within? Food for thought.

[@klenstdp1737]

I believe that his body has no soul and the soul sort of guided the body’s growth so without the soul his body grew without guidance or order.

[@kurenian]

Our eyes are yet to open… - Willem

[@NievesTheWitch]

2:27 The misbegotten in the background 🤣🤣🤣

[@hurtboychulo7371]

"The moon will eclipse the sun" makes me think he wants it to fully switch over to his female counterpart to literally embody being an empyrean,from there on idk what the plan was,I remember Tarnished Archaeologist "Purify the Erdtree" theory,recommend giving it a look

[@Sireas93]

I feel like Tarnished Archeology is the closest from all yt channels I've seen to describing what is actually happening in the lore. I haven't seen anyone else bringing up Marika pose, or mentioning that she is impaled by red spear.

[@hurtboychulo7371]

@@Sireas93 speaking of impalements,can't wait for this dlc so he can dive into the lore😁

[@eprimchad2576]

​@@Sireas93yeah TA is on another level alot of people are just speculating based on story telling trops but he delves into the real life history of everything and actually backs his points up with good logic.

[@galaxsija4591]

Killin it again with the music and cinematography. You've managed to carve out a unique look and feel for your channel and that's no small feat, Tarnished! Great work

[@lost_in-da_sauce]

That skyrim theme mix fits so well

[@JohnDWJ]

Beautifully researched and presented. Excited to see what answers will be revealed.

[@wyguy1712]

Love the Skyrim music in the background. Definitely hit me with some nostalgia.

[@Galamoth06]

The problem with Miquella trying to communicate with Godwyn through the roots of the Haligtree is that the Haligtree is just about the only place in the game that _isn't_ connected to the Erdtree's roots/Deathroot. I think he specifically grew the Haligtree outside of the Lands Between to escape the influence of the Greater Will.

[@osheroth]

I'm not sure if you've missed something from Miquella's and Godwyn's relationship, but it is quite interesting to humor the idea that Miquella purposely manipulated Mohg into kidnapping him to denounce his power and connection with the Golden Order in order to make it to the Realm of Shadows. After all, we can deduct from the dialogue in one of the voices from the trailer how Miquella's influence can be more terrifying and manipulative than benelovent.

[@mobgabriel1767]

But cheating the haligtree in on itself IS already herétic in on itself from the Golden order's POV, its why morgott brands both miquella and malenia as traitors despite that as Far as they know the two never acted directly against the Golden order, hell there are Stone carvings in the haligtree that depict a hooded figure(supposedly adult miquella) with a giant nail in the erdtree's roots(in reference to the Idea of nailing a tree stump to kill its roots), there is no point in miquella allying with mohg

[@osheroth]

@@mobgabriel1767 yep it's complicated because they haven't publicly denounced The Golden Order, but their actions (especially Miquella's) point towards complete defiance; from creating a tool that can sever the influence of outer gods to trying to create his own symbol of faith through the Haligteee. It's not so much that Miquella is allied with Mohg, but rather that Mohg got "charmed" with a similar effect from the Bewitching Branch that led him to love Miquella so much to the point of stealing him and trying to build a whole dynasty with him

[@mobgabriel1767]

@@osheroth but miquella's and malenia's actions of splitting off and creating their own order are clearly known, what isnt known is miquella's abduction by mohg só why would him being abducted denounce him more? Also why the hell would miquella even charm mohg? What would miquella even gain from his kidnapping? Mohg hás literally nothing that Miquella could bê interested in and there is the possibility that Miquella doesnt even know about mohg being alive due to mohg's actions being completely covert

[@Doughstroy0218]

You and Lee did awesome on this vid

[@unluckydova5495]

Bro this video is crazy! Good shit

[@bulldogsswishie]

The reason the comparison to berserk is so big is due to the casualty of the story. A lot of the lore we read is obscured during our play through. Everyone loves Miquella. Except ranni. I believe them two worked together. Miquella had to have known godwyn was going to die. It makes sense for what he’s doing now. If godwyn didn’t die would he still be doing what he’s doin? I doubt that.

[@bulldogsswishie]

They used Miquella the same way they used marika. As a husk and vision for what people view the lands between until we ourselves see through the corruption. Same with Miquella. That’s why emperians are at ware with the outer gods. They cannot control their own fate. Miquella and marika want the same thing. Rid of the outer gods influence.

[@captainlovebug]

Ooooooo good timing for this video. Happy eclipse!

[@sorawastaken]

miyazaki boutta recreate berserks eclipse but this time nobody dies because everybody is already dead

[@eldenringpvpenthusiast1710]

you can see an eclipse every dusk from the first step. The dragon temple ruins island block light from the setting sun. Coincidentally or perhaps not, the path of light the sun cast on the ocean almost leads to roundtable hold, and in the opposite direction is farum azula, where you can always see the sun from. Its almost like farum azula at some point, eclipsed the sun. All the martyrs and effigies around look like the shape of Marika's soreseal and the rune of death, but describe as being a connection to other worlds. I wonder if those other worlds could include the land of shadow, and when an elipse is cast, souls of the dead can spill into the lands between and spread not only undead, but deathroot too. I believe like regular trees grow toward the sun, there is a dark tree in the shadow land that grows toward the dark, and when an eclipse is cast or deathroot is spreading, these death trees will grow in the dark or toward an eclipse. I think this could explain the death of the fire giants, and the one with a lid blocked the eclipse from affecting him/her

[@pkmnbreedermo5429]

Wow!!!! New sub here. Loved this video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and extensive research into a game we all love.

[@McLover996]

Miquella: starts an eclipse Tarnished: MIQUELLAAAAAAAAAHHH

[@Mae_Dastardly]

Miquella: i want wings

[@McLover996]

​@@Mae_Dastardlyand the rest is..... Poor melina😯

[@TheBatman39]

​@ImLiterallyTheBatman Miquella r🦍s Melina and forcing the Tarnished to watch it as Miquella leaves his girl in a potato state.

[@VultureXV]

We can also simply take a look at what an eclipse is at face value to help us answer questions like this. An eclipse is where the moon perfectly aligns with the sun causing a shadow to appear on the earth. The Sun is Gold, Moon is Silver. The Sun is Masculine, the Moon is Feminine. The Sun is Day, the Moon is Night. At a face value even, an eclipse is a symbol that speaks directly to the subconscious as a means of combining two opposing forces in a momentary harmony. Such things also exist temporarily in chemistry or Alchemy as sudden states of unification, that are somehow very unstable. Life and Death Day and Night Male and Female There is a heavy fisted application of Dualism in Fromsoft games, I'm certain that Miquella was searching to bring about an Eclipse in order to help revive Godwyn. I feel he may have achieved that momentary blink of unstable unification, and may have seen a glimpse of Truth as a result, ultimately abandoning the project in favor of his Rebirthing ritual.

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

Smoughtown has discussed thr relationship between Miquella and Godwyn a bit.

[@Graciaonhigh]

You ended the vid with my absolute favorite Skyrim song. Awesome !

[@Mainlymundane]

Perfect video to watch on eclipse day. Also I love the Skyrim soundtrack in the background

[@jonmichaelbarnett2051]

For anyone in the future, please be respectful.

[@eliasmendozaii2329]

I love the community for being kind and to challenge theories respectfully. Keep at it and have fun dissecting the dlc in a couple months!

[@enterusername4650]

People are gonna spoil the hell out of the dlc the second it comes out. People will do anything for views.

[@andrew-rn9ui]

​@enterusername4650 it's not views , it's a paycheque, when you can make over 10k a month doing a 10 min video upload or once or twice a week , it's kind of hard to stop If I had a PC I can't lie and say I wouldn't take advantage of it, there are 8 billion people on the planet currently with that number only growing abd more and more people looking for content to consume, no matter what you post you can gain a following and make money, and the whole world is in a recession rn, most ppl are a oaycheque away from losing everything, posting content "for views" is a way to circumvent that , don't hate the player hate the game bruh

[@mathewmontavon9079]

Love the material, man. What if the Eclipse was a prior attempt by Miquella to reach the Shadow Realm, and Mogh's abduction was part of a more elaborate plan or an unexpected hiccup, that ended up getting him there?

[@hapmaplapflapgap]

Happy coincidences don't happen in fromsoft games.

[@mobgabriel1767]

I think that mohg's kidnapping might've let him stuck there, miquella being in the shadow realm pretty much confirms that there is no way he could have influenced mohg into kidnapping him(alongside the fact that miquella doesnt hás anything to Win by joining mohg's side), he probably reached the shadow realm trought the haligtree

[@Hankering5656]

Miquella looking at mogh from the shadow realm like thanks dumber you just granded my wishes lol

[@hashgraveyard4209]

Lol standing outside looking at an eclipse and boom notification for this video.

[@ConorFitzpatrick-x9w]

That was some 3 star michelin lore cooking lads, keep at it!

[@DarkstarMystic]

So Elden Ring DLC releases the year of an eclipse... wonder if that was planned at all. The last big solar eclipse was 2017, and earlier that year Ringed City / DS3 was released.

[@jennyc3919]

That’s just in the US though. There’s a solar eclipse every 6 months, they’re just visible in different places. You’d think that if it were on purpose they’d time it with eclipses in Japan, not the US

[@colinwilhite8241]

I always thought Miquella was the body seen in the roots of the Haligtree... but what if that's Godwyn? .... Also, Miquella and Godwyn both seem to have parts of their story that seem to relate to Griffith from Berserk... our view of Godwyn is similar to how people out of the know see Griffith. Golden child that does nothing but succeed and win... then BAM, out of the picture... I saw Godwyn in the Depths and it reminded me of Griffith being tortured......... Also Messmer's arm looks like Miquella's arm coming out of the pod at Mogh's place. So there's that.

[@dannysandhu9487]

The game has so many different layers aside from the ingame story thats been told... The pictures with sun and moon and miquella as the healer are highly alchemical or occult (psychological) loaded pictures.. u might wanna look into individuation (C.G.Jung) or the magnus opus / the philosophers stone.

[@thatgirlfellowgal7669]

Becauze he is griffith, and he has a dream and a cool looking amber egg thing with a face

[@TheBatman39]

@@thatgirlfellowgal7669 He wants his own kingdom and a gay Batman suit with lipstick included

[@ShimotsukiTaqi]

Always beleive in your Guts and not your Griffithsy

[@neogenesis0038]

Very well done Jake. As with everything in Elden Ring, more answers lead to more questions. In my last play through, I spent much time in Castle Sol also. I began to think about the significance of the Eclipse, and, why there was a rather unique Mausoleum there. The Mausoleums duplicate remembrances. The Eclipse (rebirth, renewal). You have Miquella (Eternal Youth), and Godwyn (Eternal Death, or, eternal Undead). There are depictions in this game of one trees roots growing from the top of a tree below it, We have the Shadow of the Erdtree under a Veil (eclipse?) So, what does this all mean? I have no idea. But, my theory is this. Eclipse, Mausoleums, roots intertwining, eternal youth and death....Miquealla perhaps, was/is attempting to fuse his Soul into the Godwyns body. Why? Because it would in theory end the Death blight seeping from Godwyns corpse, and, it cures Miquella of his eternal youth. This also could give a reason as to why Melenia marched her ass all the way to Caelid to face off against Radhan...because he held the Stars (Moon included) in place. There COULDN'T be an Eclipse because of him. She lost, which is why the Ghost is lamenting. (Which is why you have to defeat Radhan before the DLC). Obviously Mohg stealing his body probably hindered things a tad also. If Ranni used a ritual to free her soul and destroy Godwyns body...then surely Miquella could use the Ritual to free his soul INTO Godwyns body. To offer a more, perhaps, sinister/selfish reason...is that this May grant Miquella ultimate power over Life and Death. In essence, he would become the God of the Eclipse, and have full Lordship and control over all those born, and all those that die. IE, he would actually become the next Great Tree (and I believe is another step in his plan to remove the Influences of ALL the Outer Gods, including the GW). Obviously this is all theory, and it all could be dead wrong. Either way, I believe that Marika's attempt to remove death was more successful than she had hoped....In essence, she created the violation of the Golden Order, she created Those that Live in Death, because they CAN'T die....but that's a completely different topic.

[@jamiemckelvie342]

Miquella: if ‘fine, I’ll do it myself’ was a person

[@shychi90]

Hey is it just me, but at 0:46 does anyone see or notice how Queen Markia is seemingly supposed to b holding 3 children…? That statue seems to b in the haligtree, in Loretta’s boss room bfore continuing forward. Nd with the dlc being a month away.. does anoyone else feel like that missing child is supposed to b Mesmer?? Jus like how his throne is missing aside from everyone else’s at the capital🤔.

[@dmitriyn7695]

В академи, посреди главного зала висит модель "солнечной" системы. В центре - Луна. Вокруг Луны вращаются мир междуземья, Солнце и чёрная дыра, под названием Тёмная луна. Затмение возможно только если последняя закроет солнце (или вообще поглотит). Но Радан остановил звёзды...

[@samuelpederson6603]

Just found your channel a couple of days ago, subbed immediately - Good shit my man

[@goodhoonter9882]

100% we gonna have a slave knight geal type of situation with miquella

[@DarlingDreadful]

👆

[@andrew-rn9ui]

I just want the dkc to be as memorable as ashes of ariandel , the sister friede fight was so fkn legit

[@matthelion]

Turn around, bright eyes

[@redx3009]

Kinda ironic how Miquella is obsessed with Godwyn, while Mogh is definitely obsessed with Miquella for the sake of the Moghwyn dynasty. Anyways I throw my quick theory that Godwyn is The Sun and he sent presents to Ranni from Castle Sol like the Icerind Hatchet to court her and tragically we end up with lusterless sun and a dark moon joined in an eclipse.

[@jakewilson6600]

I have a very confident feeling that Shadow of the Erdtree is going to take The Old Hunters' place as my favorite DLC of any videogame

[@neptwo9563]

what good timing for me lol, I was at castle sol in my new playthrough the other day and read the dialogue of that spirit guy near the 2nd haligtree medallion and got curious about it because I hadn't heard anyone talking about it, I searched a little on the internet about it but couldn't find that many discussions

[@bluecapgun785]

Great choice of opening music

[@attacker-2]

Heartbreaking, if Miquella is doing this all for his siblings... that is such a brotherly move

[@mukelson]

i think the only possible moment for Mogh to capture Miquella was when Malenia went to defeat Radahn so Miquella's destiny could go on. That is one of the few momets for me that I can get in place in a timeline some of the lore events

[@jordanbrown3816]

Throwing some ideas around: 1. Two headed snake reminds me of Messmer, maybe his lil skinny red snakes are just one two-headed snake 2. I always found the ghost’s dialogue from castle Sol to be kind of telling. Like, why did it say that it will never see the Haligtree? Is Miquella like incentivizing them to bring about an eclipse by saying they will only get access to the haligtree if they can summon an eclipse I don’t get it. Seems kind of manipulative on Miquella’s part but I guess that wouldn’t be very surprising

[@johnfinklestein6910]

The eclipse Miquella was trying to perform, to revive a soulles comrade..had to him thr player character

[@stakesishigh516]

Excellent video as always.

[@ilynachooo]

Miquella and Godwyn were definitely close, even in Haligtree we see a statue of Malenia,Miquella, and someone who I believe to be Godwyn hugging them. Abandoning Fundamentalism is fs in character as his brother and sister have been inflicted by something they have no control over. Where I get stumped is, what is end goal essentially, I feel it can go both ways I like to lean more towards him being good, but also alot points to him using us for the sake of his plan.

[@Sireas93]

Tarnished Archeology has a bit of content on Miquella. From what I remember - they pointed out he is very closely related to Godwyn - from item descriptions to visuals, it seems that Haligtree was meant equally for him and Malenia, as for helping Godwyn. Including the eclipse, which didn't happen for the same reason for which Ranni questline halted.

[@nekroz4503]

it should have been godwyn not radahn

[@BearsNGym.]

@@nekroz4503 this aged like fine wine.

[@KcAgro]

Why did you have to hit me with that music though (if you know, you know). Great video by the way, I just had to rewind after going on a nostalgia journey first 😅

[@matthewbrzozowski6123]

I love how well skyrim background music goes so well with elden ring videos

[@ProbablyLying]

The eclipse will reveal the land of shadow..

[@moist537]

Love the Skyrim ambiance ❤️❤️

[@jonaswest6993]

Obviously "My brother come join me" but I did read that thumbnail as "And I'm Coming For You Brother!" Hulk Hogan style

[@stoicghost4313]

Do you think that Rannis great rune on the moon has something to do with making the eclupes faulty?

[@mralabbad7]

Perfect timing for the eclipse hapenning today👏

[@cutebunny6361]

Loved the video! One thing I wanted to point out something. In an interview, Miyazaki said there is a hidden meaning in the Title of the dlc. If you look closely the “o” kind of looks like a two-headed oruborus, but the snakes look like trees.

[@xanelong6141]

Bro this is Skyrim music on Elden ring

[@deadpool3302]

people who didn’t read berserk: 😊 people who read berserk: 💀

[@shiningstar737]

In Tarot which is playing cards from Ancient Rome and Greece that *could* be housed for fortune telling (tho it was mostly used like the trump cards in Uno) card the 14th of the major arcana and the most often misunderstood one is 13: Death. The card symbolizing change, new beginnings for the better. While upside down symbolizing destruction and the absolute end In Ancient Rome when a general was very successful it got a parade where they was pulled in a chariot around town, meanwhile there was another person in the chariot that whispered “memento mori” in his ear. Memento mori is a Latin phrase that can really translate to: remember that you are mortal, remember that you will die, remember your death This is used in a positive light as you may be good but don’t get a big head, you ain’t no god, you are just as fallible as everyone else, it will soon end so enjoy it while you can. Also vaguely threatening, which is the best kind of threat

[@BioAlpha5]

on the cliff above the castle is a snow covered blob of what looks like growth of Godwyns deathblight like near summonwater village. Also the ghost trees and the "cataclyscm mechanic" in sekiro dubis video makes me wonder if those trees only appeared AFTER the eclipse which could have been triggered. i wonder if the DLC was actually always planned ot be in the game but had to be sifted and shifted around to fit the budget and time constraits of release. much like the game itself the dlc gets to rebirth itself anew.

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Mind blown on the ring. Messmer's connection to the plot thickens

[@TheWirewitch]

What if Miquella is trying to seed his own soul into Godwyns souless remains? Solving his eternal youth situation? Maybe the eclipse was an essential part in that process but Mohg interrupted?

[@Galamoth06]

Wasn't that what the Haligtree cocoon was for?

[@TheWirewitch]

@@Galamoth06 I think so. The figure in the tree almost looks like a pregnant woman, but her stomach has been torn open.. what if the cocoon was a kind of womb?

[@Galamoth06]

​@@TheWirewitch It certainly looks that way, but it's still very strange if it's the case. Not to mention Mohg has it resting on what appears to be a huge pelvis (I really don't understand this, it doesn't seem to have any physical connection to the cocoon. Maybe Mohg just had some bones lying around and thought it would be thematically appropriate?). The other main theory is that the figure in the tree was supposed to be Miquella's new body.

[@TheWirewitch]

@@Galamoth06 I don't think its an accident that Mohg placed the cocoon on a pelvic bone, he's wanting Miquella to wake, since he wants to marry him or.. whatever.. he's clearly interrupted a process, one he's trying to emulate without fully understanding, or maybe he does and his interference he's hoping to influence Miquella's rebirth to suit his own motivations. I personally think the figure in the tree is mostly symbolic, it really drives home the point Miquella wasn't birthed yet, rather torn from the belly in a crude and violent caesarian.

[@SamYeshani]

This DLC is gonna be phenomenal!!!!

[@johnnycracker640]

I watched a total solar eclipse earlier today. Miquella missed it from his egg, sadly.

[@epiccthulu]

It feels like everyone is overlooking some essential things. Ranni and Miquella knew each other, to the point he trusted her with a spirit summoning bell to give to whoever rides torrent, who he knew. An eclipse is a moon covering the sun, Ranni is a dark moon. There are lesser black knife assassins that guard the entrance to the haligtree. If anything, Miquella worked with Ranni to get Godwyn killed. But then Ranni did a plot twist at the end. It feels like this is being overlooked because, in a meta sense, Miquella has entranced the player base with affection towards him based on the mysterious nature of how he is covered

[@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962]

And Miquella makes self-detonators out of his devotees, from Haligtree soldiers to his sister, Malenia. Everyone seems willing to die for Miquella.

[@HopeiThis]

There’s also a headless eclipse knight guarding a Blacknife Assassin in Liurnia.

[@epiccthulu]

@@HopeiThis exactly! I didn’t even think to mention that

[@anonfinally1692]

​@@epiccthuluI actually have a theory about this commented on another of this channel's video about the lie of the Golden Order: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKGZlJ5trqmcfqM

[@beniron5807]

I have been anti Miquella since day 1. A genius in a child’s body would know that the only way to gain power is not through fear or brute force. He used his eternal visage of innocence to manipulate those around him. He “compelled’ love and devotion. Godwyn is in a sort of dark dream realm. Likely the one Miquella needs to truly assend to power. He needs to evict Godywn to achieve his goal. Tells his followers I do this for the love of my brother! But truly, he does it for himself. I can’t imagine find and returning his soul to his deceased rotting corpse would be a good thing. Horrifying really.

[@PersimmonHurmo]

This was all planned! DLC to come out in times of the eclipse! Praise the church of the eclipsed sun! Praise the almighty moon!

[@draketinjum428]

Maybe Miquella wants the eclipse for Godwyn's sake for the same reason he may want Malenia to full bloom into the rot goddess? It seems like the reason the golden needle causes a more powerful bloom is because it's ability to stave off rot might be a double edged sword: it cures the symptoms, but allows it to "build up" so when the flood gates finally give it causes a more powerful bloom. Maybe Miquella realized this, and learned he can't start curing it until it's come to a conclusion? Goddess of rot and and the eclipse for Godwyn are both presumably the full impartation of godhood for both of them. A thought I had awhile ago while I was obsessing about Miquella, is that even though Godwyn and Malenia's afflictions have a lot of parallels, they are also kinda opposite. As far as the host/affliction relationship goes, Malenia was born with it, while Godwyn was "infected" with it. So while Malenia was built up on the affliction, with Godwyn the affliction was built up on him. So since unalloyed gold was a major breakthrough for Miquella with his research for his sister, maybe he had the breakthrough for Godwyn. But with the crucible. Their afflictions are opposite. So since unalloyed gold (pure, singular substance) helps Malenia, maybe the crucible (a mixture of everything) helps Godwyn in the same way somehow? It also makes sense considering their origins at birth. Malenia being born of a Rebis fitting well with unalloyed gold, and Godwyn plausibly being related to the crucible due to his birth circumstances. Considering his only siblings were omens. Food for thought anyways

[@isxero]

Please look into the towering sister Albenoric being connected to the giant Nox corpses as being a part of some sort of birthing ritual and also look into the St. Trina Lilies all over at the bottom of the Haligtree, they aren't lootable but are very clearly St Trina lily if you look at them and the icon, there is many purple butterfly there that look like they would be related to St. Trina mingling with the Aoenian butterflies. Perhaps this proves St. Trina is Miquella as those Lily are rare but not at the Haligtree. They numb senses and help with pain, and more importantly, they help you or force you to sleep, perhaps the original intent was to help ease his sisters ailment not only from the rot but also, from the wounds she received in battle, hence why we find her "asleep" and the first thing she mentions is how she slumbered for so long. Thank you, fellow truth seeker.

[@charlesgarand]

Amazing video. Maybe this has been discussed, but I think the Eclipse is one involving the trees, and not so much celestial bodies. The Castle Sol sigil depicts the eclipse with the Sun’s light literally leaking out like we see happening between the twisting trees shown in the trailer and promotion material for the DLC. It is a tree of death eclipsing one of light. I am trying to rationalize how this might fit in with Miquella’s plan, but I’m fairly certain the eclipse he may want to bring about has already happened or is happening right now.

[@captainlovebug]

Also the cover art is dope

[@xperimental839]

If they’re going to give Godwyn a true death, are they going to give Godwyn his souls back just to kill him all over again? It would be quite the twist to see the most beloved empyrean, Miquella, commit such a heinous act against his own brother!

[@ebrietas-biscuit]

The amount of Godwyn’s eyes on the character on a second play or just knowing of them, will change the way you look at Godwyn’s death

[@DefecTec]

9:49 bro wherever I go, I can never escape Lousiana, for such a small state you never stop hearing about it

[@millionairesburner24]

I feel u I hate it here💯

[@DefecTec]

@@millionairesburner24 not hate, we have the best food, especially in southeast Louisiana so that’s a plus, rich history, there’s just not much to do if you don’t want to go to the cities, which are full of criminals and degenerates like in New Orleans, which used to not be the case

[@LOSToCLAN]

dropping this on eclipse day genius

[@D.boys6t9]

Godwyn Probubly shone holy light across the lands between and when he died that’s when he spread death.

[@wanderingsoul7341]

Thank you, finally someone has analysed miquella’s ring

[@camelia4603]

The eclipse symbol and the shotel look like the death rune and cursemark of death. I think bringing the eclipse also symbolises giving Godwin a true death via completing the circle. Miquella does want Godwin to die a true death, after all.

[@myztiklee]

we thought this during our research but thought this would be better to have a separate video based around that concept to give it its own moment! but i’m so glad you think the same as Jake and I on this!!

[@NerdOracle]

Brother put his Elder Scrolls in my Elden Ring

[@christopherchilton-smith6482]

I'm super interested in what endings align with what starter classes, it may be nothing but endings like the flame of frenzy would seem to suggest a character with a decent faith stat and I find myself wonder if there's more there...there.

[@EmraHemingway]

Jack Is A Mimic has an excellent Eclipse video speaking partly on Miquella’s relationship with Godwyn! Check it out Jake!

[@queen_gilgamesh]

Congratulations Lee🎉🎉

[@vilek_7235]

Its worth noting how Godwyn's character seems to mirror the norse god Baldur, whose beauty is said to outshine the sun He was also the first of the norse gods to die, an event which is said to be what triggers Ragnarok, just like Godwyn's death led to the shattering There is also a plot to bring back Baldur from Hel, due to him not having a warriors death, similar to how Godwyn didn't die a true death

[@nbmoleminer5051]

Yeah only we're able never to truly resurrect him

[@suyanm.s.6742]

At Castlevania Aria of sorrow, one seal or curse can be broken since its a great moment to deal with sobrenatural.

[@krissnoe500]

What if that's mesmer in the cocoon. Dreaming.

[@D.boys6t9]

What makes sense to me is that miquella’s body is dead as if he was recreating a similar issue as godwyn so he could fix it

[@lockepersonal]

You know what else looks like the symbol of an eclipse? Mending Rune of the Death-Prince.

[@draketinjum428]

Thank you, I forgot how enchanting Skyrim music is

[@adampeabody963]

Had this thought though I question if it has merit: why are boss doors often blocked by fog or flame that looks very similar to godwyns gold and black death flame as used by the eclipse shotel?