WHY Does The Bible Say "THE DEAD KNOW NOTHING"? Is Soul Sleep Biblical?

[@Twilight8855]

Why God say to live man forever must eat from tree of life? Genesis 3:22 ...Genesis 2:7 is it Adam a live before God breathed to Adam breath of life? What will happen when God revoked breath of life from Adam? When God put souls inside in new born babies.,what the Bible say about this? Why God create bodies when souls or spirits exist independently from bodies? Why resurrection of bodies is necessary when souls or spirits live independently of bodies? Is it resurrection some kind of show,spectacle?

[@jdaze1]

No physical bodies will ever rise after physical death if you have been begotten of the Fathers incorruptible seed and born of his spirit, we are already in our new body, a spiritual body, a NEW Adam. Most people are still confused about this all because they've misinterpreted the allegory of the resurrection story in the gospels. Along with the editing by blind guides of Rome. No physical body ever rises from physical death. Never has. Rome literalized a spiritual allegory in the gospels which is easily proven throughout the epistles.

[@Twilight8855]

@@jdaze1 Without heresy, Bible ignorance and stupidity please... John 5:28,29

[@RuggedCross1]

@@jdaze1 Resurrection is not an allegory it is literal and we will receive new physical bodies

[@johndena2882]

Satan's first two lies have echoed and re echoed down through history and most of humanity still believes them both...

[@DB_-]

Stop listening to Satan. Read scripture --Matthew 10:28 directly states, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.' This verse clearly tells us the soul continues on after death and Satan has no hold on you.

[@johndena2882]

@@DB_- you miss my point

[@johndena2882]

@@DB_- that verse absolutely does not say that the soul cannot die

[@DB_-]

​@@johndena2882 I just noticed your other response. That verse I offered does indeed say that the soul does not die. But let me give you another (and please offer any that support your point). True believers in Jesus Christ go immediately to heaven when they die (I am simplifying, because even the demons believe and tremble, but by Believe I am also combining that along following scripture). By “heaven,” I mean a real place of comfort and blessedness where God dwells. Of course, the bodies of believers remain on earth, awaiting the resurrection, but their souls/spirits go to be with the Lord. Believers know that because 2 Corinthians 5:8, and many other verses tell us this. “Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.” 
Now Satan of course would like you to believe otherwise, that is why he hates videos like this. But truth will prevail.

[@DB_-]

@@johndena2882 That verse I offered does indeed say that the soul does not die. But let me give you another (and please offer any that support your point). True believers in Jesus Christ go immediately to heaven when they die (I am simplifying, because even the demons believe and tremble, but by Believe I am also combatively including that we follow scripture). By “heaven,” I mean a real place of comfort and blessedness where God dwells. Of course, the bodies of believers remain on earth, awaiting the resurrection, but their souls/spirits go to be with the Lord. Believers know that because 2 Corinthians 5:8, and many other verses tell us this. “Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.”
 Now Satan of course would like you to believe otherwise.

[@AllanSteel-tz9vd]

Job said, “ if a man dies, will he live again ?” God said there was no one like Job. Job was hoping to be resurrected. He didn’t think he was eternal or going to heaven when he died. He was hoping for a merciful God to be merciful. Also, Saul couldn’t see Samuel , but the pagan witch who was directly disobeying God could. She saw a demonic entity pretending to be Samuel. Finally, Lazarus was dead for 4 days. There’s not a single mention of what he experienced because he experienced nothing but death until he was called from the grave by Jesus, the same way we will hear his call at the last Trumpet

[@rickmossop3733]

"She saw a demonic entity pretending to be Samuel" But the Bible doesn't say that.

[@samsonsupaka8716]

Ah, they have not believed enough even though the mention of life after death is not vivid enough in the New Testament yet Jesus spelt it correctly in Mathew 10:28 and John 10:17. The shroud on the altar in Holy of Holy torn open resolves the power of God to raise believers souls who believed in Jesus testimony during his ministry. They were raised in Jesus death and the Bible says many saw them in Jerusalem.

[@DerrickSmith-n8s]

You noticed he didn't go to 1st Corinthians 15 chapter,plus what Paul says in 2 Timothy about WHEN he's getting his CROWN of RIGHTEOUSNESS,the answer is VERY CLEAR(AT JESUS APEARANCE).Last,he takes 2 Corinthians 5:1-10 completely out of CONTEXT,which MANY do.Paul is saying in this passage of scriptures,he's been suffering in this TABERNACLE(Body)and in the 8th verse,Paul CLEARLY STATES,he would RATHER be in the NEW BODY,and the Bible is SO CLEAR about WHEN Paul is going to RECEIVE this BODY,about 12 verses in the New Testemant,who includes Peter,and John,so there's NOWHERE in the Bible that says Jesus is going to JOIN your spirit to your RESURRECTED BODY,

[@DerrickSmith-n8s]

Many that misquote 2nd Corinthians 5:8,don't read the first verse in the chapter,Paul says he has a NEW BODY,made in HEAVEN,and WHEN does the Bible says believers are going to RECEIVE this BODY(AT JESUS APEARANCE) which is repeated over and over.So they have to some way (MAKE it MAKE SENSE),by making up something that's NOT in the Bible,that Jesus will JOIN your Spirit(that suppose be ALREADY with Jesus) back to your RESURRECTED BODY,I AM STILL TRYING TO FIND it in the BIBLE?????????

[@maxamahnken7325]

​@@rickmossop3733 She saw the demonic entity pretending to be Samuel.

[@Urbankungfu61]

Solomon, although with his struggles was still wise enough for God Himself to allow his words to remain recorded in the scriptures for our learning. The dead know nothing, the body goes to the grave and the spirit goes back to God (who gave it) only to be reunited again on the last day to be rewarded with eternal life and others for shame and everlasting contempt. The Bible makes perfect sense when it talks about those that “sleep in the dust of the earth.” No one is in hell because no one has been judged. Even King David has not yet ascended into heaven! (Acts 2:34) The Scriptures are so beautiful and clear yet others make them so complicated to the point that I don’t know who’s interpretation or comment to trust, yet I’ve learnt that the Bible itself can interpret itself beautifully and clearly, we on the other hand take it to another direction.

[@DominikKoppensteiner]

Also, the verse right after "the spirit returns to God" says "meaningless, meaningless". Did Solomon really mean: "When you die, you go to heaven. O how meaningless"? How can it be meaningless to go to heaven? I love, how sometimes the verses, that people quote, end up proving the opposite. It's the same way, when they quote "God is a god of the living", when in fact, Jesus was arguing for the reaurrection and the idea of heaven after death would destroy his argument. Or when Jehovah's Witnesses quote John 17:3, that there's only one god, when they themselves claim that Jesus is a second god. (Trinitarians believe in only 1 god Jehovah in 3 persons, while JWs believe in 1 god Jehovah and 1 god Jesus).

[@DB_-]

Did you watch the video? Remember when Caleb pointed out the importance of 'Context'? This is a perfect example. So just so you know, Peter is addressing a crowd in Jerusalem shortly after Jesus' ascension and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. He is making the case that Jesus is the promised Messiah and has been exalted by God. In this verse, Peter is quoting from Psalm 110:1, which says: "The Lord said to my Lord, 'Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.'" Peter's argument is that David wrote this psalm, but he was not speaking about himself. David had died and was buried, and his tomb was known to the people Peter was addressing. Therefore, David must have been prophesying about someone greater than himself - the Messiah. By saying "David did not ascend into the heavens," Peter is emphasizing that David's physical body remained in the grave. This contrasts with Jesus, who had bodily ascended to heaven after his resurrection. The point is to show that Jesus, not David, fulfilled this prophecy by ascending to the right hand of God. This supports Peter's larger argument that Jesus is the promised Messiah and Lord. So when you take it out of 'Context' you are presenting it in a false light to serve your own purpose. But you are correct on the point about "making them so complicated to the point that you don’t know whose interpretation or comment to trust". Trust the one who offers scripture in its true context.

[@Urbankungfu61]

@@DB_- Sir, your reply confirms exactly what I meant about “personal” interpretation. It’s obvious that you don’t see it the way I see it, still it doesn’t prove whether you or I am right. But of course we all have the green light to our opinion.

[@Urbankungfu61]

@@DominikKoppensteiner I don’t know if you’re reffering to my comment but please accept my apologies but you lost me with yours.

[@DominikKoppensteiner]

@@Urbankungfu61 I was referring to your comment, but not to criticise it, but to confirm it.

[@wendelljoelpeters2534]

But the dead don't know anything.Dust we came from and dust we shall return!

[@TheGentileGabe]

Thanks for the videos Caleb I’ve learned a lot. I always recommend your channel to new brothers and sisters.

[@iThinkBiblically]

Thanks Gabe :)

[@SOG-xb4qh]

​@@iThinkBiblicallyGabe, Scripture says no man has entered Heaven save He who came down from Heaven,(Jesus). It also says even King David did not ascend to Heaven but remains w us to this day. If one is either in Heaven or Hell already,then where does that leave room for the second coming of Christ to judge the living and the dead? Makes no sense.

[@NiteOwl247]

@@iThinkBiblically Do you respond to anyone who has a different opinion of yours?....Do you read their comments?

[@jeremykoch1559]

What is the purpose of ressurection if already alive in heaven?

[@patricj951]

Exactly! This is the error of the idea that the saved go directly to God when they die. But actually, because there are no perception of time for the dead, the saved will perceive it like they fall to sleep and next moment they are with God. Independent if it has passed 1 day or 1000 years.

[@charleshanna2089]

Those in Christ their souls are reunited and given a new body Where they will dwell with Christ in the New Heaven and The New Earth

[@terencelintnaar7595]

When God formed man from the dust of the earth, the body lays there lifeless. Then God put the spirit in him and the body became a living soul. If God gonna take back the spirit, then it is a dead body again and go to dust again. At the resurrection the each individual spirit re unite with his body. Every spirit go back to God who gaves it. Every person receives his own spirit, that why stephan said ,my spirit. The 1st resurrection is those who died in Christ to receive their new spirit bodies (2nd birth: born again) at the beginning of 1000 year reign with Christ on earth. At the end of the 1000 year the 2nd resurrection will take place but this is to a physical body as described in Ezekiel 37... and there is more to explain what's going happen to them.

[@charleshanna2089]

@@jeremykoch1559 I dont know what the purpose is But thats what scripture says I think that resurection and reiniging of body and soul is the complete restortation back to when we are born here on earth

[@maxamahnken7325]

​@@terencelintnaar7595 Correct

[@ianwinton7692]

Ezekiel says , the soul that is sinning it is self will die. The word soul means person, pagan religions and alot of christians believe the soul is something that separates from the body, theres no teaching in the bible of this .

[@maxamahnken7325]

Correct

[@mmr1137]

Bro missed Jesus resurected and defeat of death

[@mmr1137]

Bro missed Jesus resurected and defeat of death

[@maxamahnken7325]

@mmr1137 The Bible says that the dead know nothing and sleep within the grave until the resurrection.

[@regine3147]

I don't feel that any of those versus fully justify the topic that you are sharing. I don't claim to understand what the state of the dead is, but i cannot understand how we can go straight to heaven or hell when Jesus hasn't returned and the judgement hasn't taken place. Why would the dead in Christ rise at Jesus return if they are already in heaven? Why would the wicked later be raised just to go back to hell. This does not make sense. Perhaps we should not make definite statements about things we don't yet fully understand. It's not important, and we fool ourselves thinking that all our dead friends and relatives are in heaven just because they were 'good'. Who is actually working out their salvation with fear and trembling today?

[@SSNBN777]

A Believer has eternal life (a portion of the Father's Spirit), so their spirit cannot die, but will be in the full Presence of God when the body dies.

[@pattya4696]

I've had these same thoughts for a long time and I'm still waiting for a sensible explanation.

[@regine3147]

@@SSNBN777 maybe.

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

Body stays on the ground. Aka dust returns to dust. Spirit goes to God. At Christ return, the dead earthly bodies transform to glorified bodies. Not glorified souls.

[@Trublu52]

@@regine3147 I am. Not a seventh Day Adventist, or Jehovah’s Witness simply a Bible reader. The Bible simply does not teach an immortal soul effect in Ecclesiastes. The Bible says the soul that is sinning dives. Since were all souls and all sinners when we die, we die and await the resurrection according to the Bible teaching most people believe this false teaching that the soul is immortal. It is a hard pill for humanity to swallow that when we die, we just die, but that is what the Bible teaches several scriptures throughout the Bible and scripture at a time and twist them and say that’s not exactly what they mean or that’s not in contacts, Solomon was not. He was a man what he meant.

[@lonniespeights8146]

Is Death the end of existence? When the Bible compares death to sleep it's talking about the physical body but the soul either goes to heaven or hell (Hades) upon physical death base on the person's choice if they chose Jesus Christ or rejected him when they were alive. If there was no afterlife then why did Jesus Christ tell the thief on the cross today you will be with me in paradise if there was no afterlife then that wouldn't make sense for Jesus Christ to tell the dying thief that. Also, the apostle Paul said that he was caught up to the third heaven wether in the body or out of the body he doesn't know but God knows. Also, the Bible says that it's appointed for men to die once and after that comes the judgement this clearly let's us know that their is an afterlife for both the righteous and the unrighteous and that the human soul is immortal. Also, when the Bible says that the dead knows nothing and that their thoughts and emotions perish at death it means they no longer have any participation of the things under the sun or they no longer have participation of the things on planet Earth. Also, for those who go to the lake of fire for rejecting Jesus Christ will not eventually cease to exist or go into oblivion because their soul is immortal and at that time by the time they are thrown into the lake of fire the unrighteous will have received resurrected immortal bodies that would suit them to spend an eternity in hell (the Lake of Fire). When the Bible says that God can destroy both soul and body in hell and that the wicked shall go into everlasting destruction it's not talking about that the wicked will go into non-existence as that can't be as their souls are immortal but it means that they will perish spiritually forever while being separated from the power and glory of God that right there is what it means by the second death it means being eternally separated from the goodness and glory of God as death always means separation and not going into non-existence and that applies to physical death as well as when a person physically dies their soul is separated from their physical bodies and enters into the afterlife.

[@LadySunshine866]

So perfectly & eloquently put🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌!!!!

[@michaelduarte7896]

Thank you ,opened my eyes cleared up or confirmed for me. GOD BLESS YOU

[@catholic4sure976]

The Adventist's teach that EXACTLY LIKE THE lambs of the burnt offerings IN THE LAW are the burned up and cease to exist, so the wicked will burned up and cease to exist and will not SUFFER. This is what Adventist FOOLISHLY THINK is same as the meaning of as what Christ meant the wicked would receive *"ETERNAL PUNISHMENT"* . To the Adventists, the wicked are burnt up and annihilated! Yeah, Christ sent those lambs to *"eternal punishment"* according to Adventist theology!

[@ws775]

The soul is the natural man. When dead it doesn’t go anywhere. A soul is a breathing, living creature. When it dies it is dead. Transmigration is not a biblical concept. You have no understanding of the subject.

[@wesleysimelane3423]

The point is that after you breathe your last, you cease to exist. You are aware of nothing. Psalms 115 v 17 It is not the dead who praise the Lord, those who go down to the place of silence; “Man lies down and does not rise. Till the heavens are no more, they will not awake nor be roused from their sleep. … His sons come to honor, and he does not know it; they are brought low, and he does not perceive it” (Job 14:12, 21). The dead cannot contact the living, nor do they know what the living are doing. They are dead. Their thoughts have perished (Psalm 146:4 KJV). The "spirit" that returns to God at death is the breath of life. The soul goes nowhere. Instead, it simply ceases to exist. Two things must be combined to make a soul: body and breath. When the breath departs, the soul ceases to exist because it is a combination of two things. When you turn off a light, where does the light go? It doesn’t go anywhere. It just ceases to exist. Two things must combine to make a light: a bulb and electricity. Without the combination, a light is impossible. So with the soul; unless body and breath are combined, there can be no soul. There is no such thing as a “disembodied soul.” No further reward in Eccl 9 v 5 refers to after you breathe your last before the second coming, you sleep & wait. That is totally obvious.

[@dalecampbell5617]

The word nephesh has several meanings. It can mean creature, or one's desire/drive. So when the Bible says that the soul that sins dies, that doesn't sound immortal. A proper translation would be, the creature that sins dies. Man is a living soul, he doesn't have an immortal soul. Notice when God created man, man became a living soul, God didn't give him a soul. Lazarus was dead for 4 days and twice Jesus said Lazarus sleeps. If Jesus took Lazarus out of heaven or "hell ", you'd think that Lazarus would have had his own book in the Bible; either the beauty of heaven or the horror of hell. But Lazarus didn't mention one word about this astonishing experience. God said that only he is immortal and lives in unapproachable light. Out of the 31,102 verses found in the Bible, God, Jesus, Paul or any of the other apostles say directly that I have an immortal soul. I believe it was Plato who said the soul is immortal, being influenced by Greek philosophy and pagan myths.

[@sivanaidu6819]

What did Jesus say to the second criminal who realized he was a sinner and needed to repent, didn't Jesus say to him today you will be with me in paradise after he ask Jesus to remember him when Jesus returns to his kingdom.

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

Exactly.

[@yvonnebenson5170]

Yep. That passage alone should settle the issue.

[@hackkalaba]

The bible says " I tell you this today, you Will be with me in paradise ." If Jesus went to paradise why did he tell marry at the tomb not to touch for he had not met the father

[@1trueGodtheFather]

Because they know nothing. They are dead. Maybe i should do a 5 second video.

[@KelvinBautista-d8n]

You’re so brilliant. High five

[@1trueGodtheFather]

@ thank you trying my best.

[@KelvinBautista-d8n]

@@1trueGodtheFather I’m proud of you

[@PewLaserBeams]

My interpretation is that the dead is referring to condemned, before Jesus time all souls went to a temporary place sheol and Abraham blossom, after Jesus time the souls in Abraham blossom were brought to heaven. No one really dies, just the flesh dies, the sould lives forever, many for eternal condemnation some for eternal life.

[@maxamahnken7325]

​@@PewLaserBeams Wrong. The soul does not live for forever.

[@pauldiesel4582]

Thank you for your study. I enjoy your teaching and you always make excellent points.

[@Trublu52]

The idea that we can’t die, is the teaching of the demons for the Bible teaches of a a resurrection of the dead not the living when we die we die. this is what the Bible teaches I am not a JW just a Bible reader and this is what it teaches It’s not the only place in in the Bible that teaches us about the dead we return to the dust. Solomon was telling the truth, twisting the word of God does not change the truth. If when we all die then who will God resurrect , read the accounts of the resurrection for God says I will open the memorial tombs and they will come out,and from the Depths of the sea I will bring them out this indicates people that have already died. I suppose God could send us to heaven kill us again put us back in the grave and resurrect us, but that doesn’t make sense. Does it , if we die and go to hell or heaven then who who will God resurrect. Satin told eve you will not die, this was a lie anyone that believes we never die is believing the teaching of the demons.

[@DCelente]

So many twist the word of God to fit the preconceived notions in their minds. So few allow the Bible to merely explain itself, oftentimes in other books, chapters and verse. Most are unaware that when God breathed into man the breath (nephesh) of life that the same term is used to describe the beasts of the lands and the fowl of the air. It’s a physical existence and not an immortal soul, as taught by all pagan religions

[@wesleysimelane3423]

AMEN!

[@jdaze1]

Not me. I was resurrected into new life in 2016 when I was Begotten of the Fathers incorruptible seed born of his Spirit of Life. The 2nd death (physical death) has no power over me.

[@DCelente]

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. That spirit which God gave us imparts INTELLIGENCE and THOUGHT in man, differing from the beasts of the earth. Upon death it returns to God…..it’s that simple and I fervently wish people would not complicate the Word!

[@DominikKoppensteiner]

​@@DCelente The very next verse is "meaningless, meaningless!" So clearly, Solomon was not saying, "Your body dies, but you go to heaven. O how meaningless!" That would make absolutely no sense. Solomon describes the opposite of Genesis 2:7. There, God gives man the breath of life, and he becomes a living soul. In Ecclesiastes, man becomes the opposite of a living soul, that is a dead soul. Also, have you ever noticed how God never warned Adam and Eve of hell? Wouldn't etenal suffering be more important to mention than "you will return to the ground, of which you were made"?

[@sugarfingers777]

Thank you again, especially for this one. I’m learning so much from you ! I endorse others to your channel as well 😊

[@nicl8749]

It’s not just in ecclastasis , there are other scriptures that say when you die it’s as a sleep. Many verses in the scriptures.

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

You can't contradict any scripture. Our soul goes to God. Body returns to dust. No where in the Bible says we will be chilling in heaven. Scripture does say believers are kept under an altar.

[@peacewithGodthroughChrist20998]

May the good Lord bless you for the work he is helping you to do for his glory. Thank you

[@coreyevans9543]

What's the point of being given the gift of immortality if we already possess it? Also, just as a side note, animals are souls too according to Genesis 1.

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

Because it's eternal life. Not eternal death

[@coreyevans9543]

@@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE What's the difference between eternal life and possessing immortality?

[@patricj951]

Spot on @coreyevans9543!

[@NiteOwl247]

@@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE Yes, and we get immortality at the last day when Jesus comes and not earlier..... Jhn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will RAISE him up at the LAST DAY.....JESUS speaking here

[@Contendingearnestlyforthefaith]

Brother, thank you for clarification; however I think the way you tried to clarify the first scripture you quoted in Ecclesiastes, does not do justice to the "inspiredness", inerrentness" infallibleness" and sufficiency of scripture. If you say Ecclesiastes is just Solomon's opinions, I disagree; I believe that Solomon is inspired by God to speak the infallible Word of God FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE FLESH. All what he is saying is true, if you would look at life from that position, it's meaningless and hopeless.

[@johna6828]

Amen. exactly the Holy Spirit led him to write that. it is the WORD OF GOD for a reason. all Scripture is God breathed for our benefit even if it may not make sense. trying to make everything fit the same use when 2 Tim 3 16 mentions the numerous purposes of Scripture is liable to lead to error. God never lies nor is He deceptive but people twist His words to their own harm. the book of Eccliastes is full of wisdom and truth when taken as you have said it

[@RAFAEL27769]

All scripture is inspired, including Ecclesiastes . Any teaching to the contrary is false .

[@jaggercoffey4320]

Excellent Caleb! Yes, the subject of Ecc 9 is “fate”. Solomon is mulling over the fate of the living and contrasts it with the dead. Saying that only the living have hope, the dead are simply dead, “No extra tries left to do right”. Like verse 4, he says it’s better to be a live dog than a dead lion. Why? Well, the dog still has hope, because it is alive.

[@johna6828]

context is key, exactly

[@nsoroma_00]

So when Lazarus died, where do you think he was before Christ resurrected him? In Heaven, hell or hades or where?

[@iThinkBiblically]

The bible doesn't tell us but the soul must have left the body according to other scriptures. 1 Kings 17:20-22 Then he cried out to the LORD and said, "O LORD my God, have You also brought tragedy on the widow with whom I lodge, by killing her son?" And he stretched himself out on the child three times, and cried out to the LORD and said, "O LORD my God, I pray, let this child's soul come back to him." Then the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came back to him, and he revived.

[@nsoroma_00]

@@iThinkBiblically so I think this should tell us when people die, their souls are reserved for a resurrection to either everlasting life or everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:1-2. Dead people are now yet to receive their reward, and this will happen at the second coming of Christ. It tells us the souls of all dead people are unconscious waiting for the resurrection.

[@Trublu52]

@@nsoroma_00 he was dead simply dead the Bible does not teach in a immortal soul

[@RuggedCross1]

when Lazarus died he went to Sheol/Paradise, also called Abraham's bosom. the place of the OT righteous dead

[@RuggedCross1]

@@Trublu52 Yeah it does unless you want to call Jesus a liar when He speaks of the souls of Lazarus and the rich man's souls as still living. Ok and how about...Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

[@humbledrummer777]

The verse that says He comes back with those who are ASLEEP in Christ....What does "sleep" actually mean? I can definitely see how someone could interpret it as soul sleep. I certainly don't understand it. Can you address this?

[@thundershadow]

The confusion is in understanding how mankind is constructed. We are created in the image of God which means there are three elements to our being. Mind, body, and spirit are similar to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Our soul is comprised of mind body and spirit. God is comprised of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So while our spirit might return unto God where it came from our body (which is also us) knows nothing in the grave and can contribute nothing in this life (anymore).

[@RAFAEL27769]

Your illustration would be akin to modelism, which is considered a heresy .

[@thundershadow]

@@RAFAEL27769 Nothing I said was untrue. My body is me. My mind is me. And my spirit is me. The Father is God. The Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God. You can try and shoot everything down with your impulses but you can't shoot down the truth.

[@jamesdabrowski6436]

Whats the point of resurrection if we are not dead? If I die and go to heaven... why would I look forward to being "resurrected" to go back to earth? Seems like sime sort of demotion

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

Because your spirit goes to God. Not your body. At the ressurection your earthly body gets changed to glorified bodies. Read 1 cor 15.

[@jamesdabrowski6436]

@@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE that explanation doesn't answer the question I presented.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

@@jamesdabrowski6436 Your question is problematic because it is based on an entirely false premise. The Christians' reward is to rule this world, and eventually the entire universe, with Christ. Ruling this universe and restoring God's government with Christ as fellow members of God's Family is NOT the demotion you believe it is. Is a much greater reward than sitting around in Heaven doing nothing for eternity. Now that is a demotion.

[@jamesdabrowski6436]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 no. That isn't how I phrased it. You folks keep creating a straw man argument to attack

[@patricj951]

Correct James. The promise of the ressurrection has become the promise of getting your body back. But if the saved already are in God's presence they are very alive.

[@NiteOwl247]

How come about 3 different books of the bible you say that they are not true?

[@MushmouthJoe]

I really enjoy these videos about biblical context. Especially these recent ones that reference the Seventh Day Adventists & Catholics. This channel has been making very entertaining, playful jabs at catholicism & I love it. It's been brutally honest without insulting anyone. Very delicate balance. Excellent work!

[@iThinkBiblically]

Thanks mate, I've enjoyed studying them!

[@DB_-]

I agree, very well done and backed up with solid scripture. Of course it hasn't gone unnoticed by the subject of the video. Swarms of SDA calling it 'doctrines of demons' only further supports the importance of these videos.

[@vatiliaidau1770]

​@@iThinkBiblicallyREPENT! twisting scriptures to fit the devil's narrative . God will judge you for deceiving many.

[@mytwocents777]

In "no more _reward_ " in the KJV, the original word is שָׂכָר (Strong's 7939) which means, most accurately, _wages_ from hired labor. It has nought to do with a reward from God on the day of judgement.

[@dasarismitha3738]

Thank you for the video. We were discussing this topic just yesterday and God answered. Praise God

[@iThinkBiblically]

That's great to hear!!

[@DominikKoppensteiner]

It's a good thing, that you're studying this topic. Please take your time to read this comment: We have many clear witnesses for the resurrection of the dead on the last day. Daniel 12, Matthew 22:23-33, Matthew 25:31-46, Luke 14:14, John 5:24-29, 1.Corinthians 15, 1.Thessalonians 4:13-18, Revelation 20:4-6,11-15. But we have only a couple of unclear verses, that are used to support the natural immortality of the soul. And even those verses can be interpreted according to the resurrection. And what would be the point of a judgement on the last day, if the dead are already being punished? Also, this doctrine destroys some of Jesus' and Paul's arguments. Paul argued, that there would be no point in getting yourself into danger for the Gospel's sake, if the dead are not resurrected. Why not? Wouldn't going to heaven right after death be a good enough reason, even if there was no physical resurrection? (1.Corinthians 30-31) He also told the Thessalonians, that they should comfort each other with the resurrection of the dead. Why didn't he tell them to comfort each other by saying, that they are already in heaven? (1.Thessalonians 4:13-18) Some argue, that the dead are in heaven, because Jesus said "God is the god of the living, not the god of the dead." But this does violence to the context. When Jesus said this, he was not arguing, that the dead go right to heaven, but he was arguing for the resurrection against the Sadducees. If we claim, that the dead are in heaven, then we destroy Jesus' argument, because we either remove the need for the resurrection or we turn God into a god of the dead. (Matthew 22:23-33) Another verse, that is often taken out of context, is Ecclesiastes 12:7. "The spirit returns to God, who gave it." Does this mean, that our spirit is conscious in heaven? Why would Solomon then conclude this passage with, "oh meaningless, meaningless!" in the very next verse? Going to heaven is the opposite of meaningless. Maybe this comment is the answer to your prayer. Consider, what I wrote, but study the Word yourself under constant prayer. The state of the dead is a very important topic, because if people believe, that the dead are conscious, they might try to talk with them. The Bible calls this necromancy, a great sin. We know, that Satan can appear as an angel of light, and he is a better actor than anybody in Hollywood. He can impersonate the dead perfectly, because he knows our habits and secrets. And when the people get their theology from church instead of the Bible, they will fall for it.

[@DominikKoppensteiner]

@jeanclaude7018 Also, breaking bread was a daily habit according to Acts 2:46. And even if it was no longer a daily habit at the time of Acts 20:7: Can you only break bread on a holy day? Even if Sunday was a special day to them, it wouldn't automatically change the Sabbath.

[@mikhailhunter5277]

Brother, I'm sorry but that is some serious mental gymnastics in just the first 5 minutes with Ecclesiastes 9:5 . How do you manage to allegorize a LITERAL verse? There's nothing to "interpret" he's speaking in LITERAL terms. I'll break it down line by line For the living know that they will die (Yes we are all aware that we will die someday But the dead know nothing (It's making a contrast between the living and the dead. The living has knowledge and the dead doesn't) And they have no more reward (This is referring to Earthly rewards, as you mentioned SDA believe in the resurrection, when you're RESURRECTED you're NOT DEAD you're ALIVE. It says the DEAD as no more reward. @3:04 You literally made up a contradiction out of nowhere. This line is also saying whatever state you die in, if you are out of favor with God there's nothing more to gain. For example Catholics pray FOR their dead relatives. If they believe there's a relative in purgatory they'll pray for them to get into heaven.) And I noticed you skipped verse 6 "Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished;" (why would your emotions perish if your soul has just simply left your shell body?) Nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun. (@4:10 For this part you literally made up your own THEORY, and then said Solomon contradicted scripture BASED ON YOUR THEORY)... I'm typing in caps because I am astounded. If you read that line plainly it's clear. How did you get into the new heavens and the new earth and a new sun??? 10 'Whatever your hands find to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or KNOWLEDGE or wisdom in the grave where you are going" (It's reiterating the dead knows nothing, have no reward) For anyone watching this video, I IMPLORE you just go back to the first 5 minutes, LISTEN to what he said, read Ecc 9:5-10 and tell me if what he's saying sounds accurate in regards to the Ecclesiastes. He DOES NOT explain the verse, he basically says Solomon thinks life on Earth is vain and Solomon contradicts other parts of scripture, then HE (IThinkBiblically) proceeded to MAKE UP CONTRADICTIONS. By misquoting Solomon saying "the righteous no longer has a reward" Solomon didn't say that he said "the DEAD has no more reward" and creating his own theories. I understand if you're reading this and you believe in the immortal soul, there is a strong urge to refute my points. I implore you once again Read Eccl 9:5-10, watch the first 5 minutes of the video. Watch it with the critiques I made, you'll see that it is never explained, neither does what he says makes sense. I also want to note he's associating the SDA with the JW in order to discredit the SDA. We believe Jesus is God. If you reject spiritual truths whatever little understanding you have will be taken from you.

[@jokourtruth]

Actually the rewards are given in this life received in the next. So it is literal but not what you are talking about.

[@RuggedCross1]

@jeanclaude7018 So you both are going to call Abraham's bosom a lie? The spirit lives apart from the body. You have to learn how to use context properly

[@jpsatre]

Even if you consider them cults their interpretations are actually and seemingly are biblically sound. And this teaching doesnt really bother me. I know and I trust Jesus.

[@mikhailhunter5277]

@@RuggedCross1 Give me ONE verse that says "the spirit LIVES apart from the body" that is in the Bible. The Parable of The Rich man and Lazarus is an allegory, Jesus often spoke in parables and for this specific PARABLE he was speaking to the Pharisees. The Pharisees much like Christians today believed in the immortal soul. The Sadducees didn't believe in the immortal soul, they believed in the biblical description of death. But they didn't believe in a resurrection. The reason I described these two sets of Jews is because it's important to understand who Jesus was speaking to when he told the Parable which was to the Pharisees. If you take that Parable literally then that means Abraham is the size of Jupiter. Because millions of people are dwelling in his bosom. Also why are we going to "Abraham's Bosom" and not heaven the dwelling place of God. Or are going to tell me the dwelling place of God is Abraham's Bosom? Something else that is disturbing would be that people in Abraham's Bosom and Hades would be able to communicate and see each other even though there is a great distance "great gulf" between them. And this parable doesn't support the immortal soul doctrine. Because in this parable they have BODIES. The rich man in hell asks Lazarus to dip his FINGER in water so that he can have a single drop on his TONGUE while burning in hell fire.... I would assume thirst is not something a soul would feel, also with the mention of several body parts and no mention of the soul separating. You can see from this Parable that the rich man is in his physical body burning in hell. Even the most astute theologians who believe the immortal soul doctrine would not use this PARABLE as an argument of an immortal soul. There's too much context that suggests this is not a literal story. The story has a very important meaning that people are missing. There are no second chances if you don't believe the word. In the Parable the rich man asked Abraham to send Lazarus to his brothers and warn them. Abraham said if they don't believe Moses and the prophets they wouldn't believe Lazarus. I honestly think this is a reasonable request because if they saw Lazarus who died, and come back to warn them the brothers would believe right? Jesus used Lazarus's name in this parable, because shortly after Lazarus died and Jesus resurrected a man named Lazarus. The Pharisees sought to kill both Lazarus and Jesus. The rich man represents the Pharisees, and Jesus resurrecting Lazarus answered on unasked question to that Parable. Which is "If Lazarus warned the brothers about Hades wouldn't they believe?" But through Jesus's demonstration he literally resurrects a man named Lazarus from the dead and the Pharisees still did not believe he was The Christ.

[@mikhailhunter5277]

@@jokourtruth I presented 2 interpretations of "rewards" in the original post. 1.) I referenced an "Earthly Reward" The dead will not have a share in anything done under the sun ☀️ hence they have no more earthly rewards. (I wanted to emphasize how LITERAL Eccl.. 9:5 is, because people try to allegorize this verse. We can ALL AGREE that the dead have no more reward on Earth) 2.) I also referenced a "Divine Reward" I didn't use those exact words. But I mentioned that Catholics who believe in the immortal soul and purgatory will pray for their dead and even do works in the hope that their dead can transition from purgatory to heaven which is MORE (additional) reward. The verse says "no MORE reward" after you're dead. But the purgatory doctrine teaches there's more reward after death. If by "next life" you mean resurrection. I agree with you. "Reward" in Eccl 9:5 is better interpreted as a divine reward. For example if someone dies in their sin, and the reward they receive is to be cast into hell. They can't in death gain "MORE reward" they can't make their punishment less or worse, they can't gain heaven. "And they have no more reward for the memory of them being forgotten" Revelation 22:12 "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to everyone according to his work." "The rewards given in this life are received in the next" (I am quoting you here and I agree with your statement if you're referencing the resurrection and not the immortal soul) but I don't see any contradictions also interpretating it as an Earthly Reward. The deeper meaning however is the divine reward. Revelation 22:12 is basically what your comment is when the righteous is resurrected they'll receive their reward. And when the wicked is resurrected they'll receive their reward.

[@medusa210562]

Watch the sermons on this topic by Edward Fudge. I think he was a presbeterian he was also a lower. He wrote many books in agreement with soul sleep. I will just say here that the belief that the soul goes to heaven creates a myriad of sins.1) Praying to the dead. 2)spiritualism.3) wrong eschatology about resurrection.4) praying to the saints. 5) everlasting he'll.

[@LoCoWi]

@medusa. I reject soul-sleep and believe our soul goes to be in the presence of the Lord when a christian dies. I have never prayed to the dead, nor am I a spiritualist. There is ample evidence of immediate life after immediate death in scripture or teachings that support it.

[@iflex2790]

please do a rebuttal on the Jehovah's witness on the issue of blood transfusions

[@dannydavis2724]

there were no blood transfusions when that was written. Blood transfusion had not been invented until 1,900 years later. Don't it bloodied meals sacrificed to idols

[@findev6330]

I’m a seven Day Adventist, here’s my take, the doctrine of soul sleep is firmly rooted in the Bible and was taught by the Apostle Paul. In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, Paul writes: "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words." Paul clearly describes death as a state of sleep from which believers will be awakened at Christ’s return. Furthermore, Jesus Christ himself, who is the ultimate authority on spiritual matters, also taught the concept of soul sleep. In John 11:11, He said regarding Lazarus: "These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep." Additionally, Martha, in response to Jesus, affirmed the belief in the resurrection at the last day in John 11:24: "Yes," Martha said, "he will rise when everyone else rises, at the last day." (NLT) This statement reinforces the biblical teaching that the dead will be raised at the appointed time-on the last day, when Christ returns. Nowhere in Scripture does the Bible teach that the soul is inherently immortal. In fact, it teaches the opposite. Ezekiel 18:20 states: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die." The Bible is clear that only God possesses immortality, as stated in 1 Timothy 6:16: "Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen." The gift of immortality is given to us we don’t have it now “And I give unto them eternal life;“John 10:28

[@patrickbrowne4606]

Glory to GOD! This is a fascinating topic.

[@vatiliaidau1770]

Don't believe him he's twisting Scriptures

[@eddierogers6636]

Thank you brother for this teaching. Yes, we must read and study the Scriptures in context to capture the true meaning of what the text is communicating to us. Many years ago, I went to listen to a teaching on "Soul Sleep" by a Seventh Day Adventist. I forget his name now. Anyway, I sat there and I listened to him teach this theology and immediately, I questioned this teaching because as you pointed out in the book of Revelation about the souls under the Alter crying out to the Lord; they were not dead. Their body was still on earth but they where there with the Lord. They remembered what happened to them. They spoke. They had their feelings. They were very much alive. Only their physical body had died but they still were alive. It is a shame that more teachers like yourself are not teaching His Absolute Written Word. There are soooo many false teachers in the Christian churches and also what is sad is most Christians go to their respective Institutionalized religious systems and let their congregational leader "spoon" feed them his opinions on what the Bible teaches us. Most in the church do not actually study the Scriptures like they should. Some have the understanding that since their congregational leader went to a Bible College or Seminary or some other Biblical institution that they should "know" the Bible and why should they try to read it and understand it for themselves when they are not sure they will get the meaning of what they have read correct or not. I guess they have forgotten that IF and this is a BIG word they are truly saved; they have God's Set-Apart (Holy) Spirit living in them to help them understand His Written Word. Thank you again brother for this teaching. I hope and pray more people will listen to what you have presented here in this teaching on this false, man-made doctrine of when people die they sleep in their grave and will be awakened when Yeshua comes to raise them from their grave. Have a blessed day in Messiah Yeshua, Eddie Rogers, Minister, D.D. I am one crying in the wilderness calling the church to come out of the Babylonian system and repent and come back to Yahweh's Straight and Narrow Ancient Paths (Jeremiah 6:16, 18:15 and Acts 15:21).

[@maxamahnken7325]

The Bible says that the dead know nothing and sleep within the grave until the resurrection.

[@eddierogers6636]

@maxamahnken7325 How then do the dead speak and know what happened to them here on earth who are under the Alter in heaven?

[@maxamahnken7325]

@eddierogers6636 The dead do not speak. The Bible says that the dead have no conscious thought or activity and are unable to communicate to the living. They are in the grave --------------- awaiting the resurrection. They aren't in heaven or writhing within some mythical place of suffering but are at rest in their graves until either the First or Second resurrection. Nowhere ------- does the Bible teach the immortality of the soul. But the Bible teaches that the soul is mortal and can die. Nowhere, does the Bible promise heaven. The idea that people go to "heaven" or "hell" at death is some concept that emerged from both Greecian and Platonic mythology. To not from the Bible ------- but the Bible teaches the resurrection ------- not the immortality of the soul. "The ------- soul that sins will die" ------- biblical. It does not live on ------- without ever dying. Hell ------- the grave ------- hades ------- sheol ------- not some place of ever burning, fiery torment. I know ------- all the scriptures that you can refer to but you aren't looking at them with the right understanding. You are just Protestant and grew up believing within the immortality of the soul and an ever burning hell fire. Any further arguments with you are pointless. Look ------- there is no point in arguing ------- with you. !! I could return an answer ------- but, what's the point????!!!!!!!!!! I'm not going to change your mind one way or another. So ------------ we're just wasting each other's time.

[@maxamahnken7325]

@eddierogers6636 To so, we are just wasting each other's time

[@maxamahnken7325]

There's no point in arguing with you Protestants

[@coreyevans9543]

Curious on the position you take regarding Adam's ontology. Correct me if I'm wrong 😊 I assume you believe that Adam's soul or spirit, an immaterial part, possesses immortality and this is inherent to the human nature. But the body part of Adam, after sinning, was subject to death. And so when a human dies, the body is what stops living, but the immaterial part continues to exist due to being inherently immortal. What would your position be regarding Adam BEFORE sinning? Say Adam is out walking near a river, he slips on some algae, hits his head, and falls into the river face first. Would it be possible for Adam to drown before the fall or did he have the ability to breath under water indefinitely?

[@iThinkBiblically]

I don't think the bible answers that question. I often find this kind of philosophical reasoning to lead infinitely into other topics and you can build a whole theology based on human reasoning. This is exactly what Solomon was doing in the Book of Ecclesiastes and he ended up contradicting what was later revealed.

[@coreyevans9543]

@iThinkBiblically I think we can deduce from other aspects of the Bible if Adam could die before sinning. Take, for example, the idea that Messiah and Adam are a type and arche-type, a shadow and reality, and the 1st and 2nd Adam. The reasoning would be "from the greater to the lesser" type of argument. Because "x" can happen to the greater, it seems reasonable "x" can happen to the lesser. Because the archetype, 2nd Adam, and reality can die without having sinned, it seems reasonable to conclude that the type, 1st Adam, and shadow can also die without having sinned. Based on the above, I think Adam could have drowned, been crushed by something, and in general die without having sinned.

[@dwightsimons3518]

​@@coreyevans9543 To believe that Adam could die before sinning is a dangerous thought. Death could not enter the world ,because there was no sin yet. Even so Adam and eve were eating from the tree of life, because God told them to eat from every tree except the tree of knowledge of good and evil. After they ate from the tree of good and evil, their body began to die just like God had warned them. So that moment is when death came into the world. The Bible state that God put protection on the tree of life so that they could not eat from it anymore.

[@coreyevans9543]

@@dwightsimons3518 How was it possible for Messiah to die whilst being sinless? Was Adam capable of holding his breath under water indefinitely?

[@chrisrixham6723]

2 Corinthians 5.8 we are confident and willing to be absent from the body and present with the Lord

[@maxamahnken7325]

The Bible says that the dead know nothing and sleep within the grave until the resurrection.

[@terencelintnaar7595]

John 3 vs 13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. No one means nobody, not even David as described in Acts 2 vs 34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

[@wesleysimelane3423]

I usually agree with you but here you are dead wrong. Your claim now, that it's Solomon's view and not God breathed is blasphemous. When you die you know nothing. You are not aware of what’s going on, on earth and you are not looking down from heaven because the dead knows nothing. In order to be conscious of anything you must have a soul. But a soul is the combination of body and spirit. When the two no longer exist together, there is no soul and there is no consciousness of anything. At this present time, no one is in heaven or hell. Acts 2:29 and 34 tells us that King David is both dead and buried and his grave is still with us TODAY. But King David has not yet ascended into heaven. His body has turned to dust and his spirit is back with God and his soul no longer exist. If this is true for David, then it is also true for everybody else. Nothing happens to the dead until Jesus returns. I Thessalonians 4:13-18 makes it perfectly clear what happens when we die. The passage begins by saying the Lord does not want us to be ignorant about what happens to the dead in Christ. The dead in Christ refers to those who have died as saved or born again Christians as a result of accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. If you as a Christian, believe Jesus died and rose from the dead, then we too will eventually rise from the dead. And that will happen when Jesus returns. I Thessalonians 4: 16-17 says, “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then, we which are alive and remain, shall be caught us together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we be with the Lord forever.” It is perfectly clear all the saved will be called at the same time. This eliminates anyone being able to say, “I got to heaven before you did.” I should point out here that as we and the dead rise up to meet the Lord in the air, before we get to Him, our bodies will be changed, in the twinkling of eye, into a new incorruptible body. Jesus then will give back to the dead, their spirits that had been placed back in God and the dead will once again become a living soul to enjoy being in the presence of the Lord for ever. This is the joy of Eternal Life. This is how the bible wants us to comfort one another as Christians. Not with, “he/she is in a better place.” Not with, “he/she is looking down on us from heaven.” Not with, “he/she is with their loved ones in heaven.” None of this happens until Jesus returns to get us. By the way, if people go to heaven immediately after death, then why is Jesus coming back to get us?

[@Jesus_Christ_Conquers]

That is pure Seventh day adventist talk. I have talked to them and they are so indoctrinated in this Ellen G White doctrine, so imprinted in the minds of these members. I know 100000% fact that we never die. Our body ceases to function and have a life force but WE our SPIRIT is our true self, NOT the body. Hard to comprehend I know.

[@DCelente]

Jesus is called the Firstfruit in various Scripture. He is the firstfruit because He is the first one to be born again, of spirit being raised from the dead by His Father in Heaven. To me, its that simple, like most of the Bible

[@Jesus_Christ_Conquers]

I know 100000% fact that we never die. Our body ceases to function but WE that is our SPIRIT is our REAL self, NOT the body which allows us to interact in this physical world. I left my body in 2009 only to return. I know exactly what it is to be out of the body and I know that this physical life is not the REAL life as hard as this may be to comprehend this.

[@IAMJ1B]

What foolishness r u talking. We will not go to heaven firstly we r going to paradise for rest until ressurection

[@wesleysimelane3423]

@@IAMJ1B Now, where do you get that?

[@graftme3168]

I completely agree with this guy 100%. For the believer, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. It was different for the Old Testament saints because Jesus had not died and resurrected yet. Since then, all believers are immediately with the Lord. I think unbelievers are conscious in the grave. The soul doesn't ever sleep. Not even in this life. So, "sleep" refers to the body.

[@Shockwave-c9n]

Bro only pull out verses from Ecclesiastes….here a little more. As a cloud vanishes and is gone, so one who goes down to the grave does not return. 10 He will never come to his house again; his place will know him no more. (‭‭‭Job‬ ‭7‬‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭NIV‬‬) “For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, “‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at my right hand,” (‭‭Acts‬ ‭2‬:‭34‬) “Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” ‭‭(John‬ ‭11‬:‭23‬-‭24‬ ‭KJV‬‬)

[@KelvinBautista-d8n]

When is the day of judgement? How can a Just God execute punishment and reward before a verdict?

[@mmr1137]

Matthew 10:28 "And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell". Jesus said here if they killed your body they didn't kill your soul. It cannot be more clear than that.

[@benjamint8073]

Great Video! Those are great points. Soul sleep is a doctrine I have struggled with for a while since I was raised in a Jehovah's Witness family. The main objections I hear from JWs are "If there is an immaterial soul that survives death, why is there no mention of this when someone is resurrected, like in the case of Lazarus or Jairus' daughter?" Also "Why would God take someone who has gone to Heaven and put them back on earth so they can suffer an earthly life again?" What would you reply with apart from it being an argument from silence? Could you please help me with this?

[@davidbermudez7704]

In Jesus first coming He showed His miracle of resurrecting Lazarus and Jairus but both died again. Only Jesus resurrected from the dead and is ALIVE now like we read in Revelation 1:17-18. People have been to Heaven like NDEs and will suffer again the only difference is they see things from an eternal perspective now. They trust in God more because it’s their hope!

[@markshark1613]

Luke 8 v 54-55 when Jesus raised the little girl from the dead it says " Then her spirit returned and she arose immediately"

[@everttonterra2572]

​@@markshark1613human spirit is the energy God provides so the body lives, it is not a living being that posses a dead body.

[@markshark1613]

@@everttonterra2572 and yet Jesus says that the Father can destroy both body and soul in hell. By your logic, our "energy" is going to be destroyed. We also read that we are to keep our body, soul and spirit blameless until the coming of the Lord. I suggest you check into your NWT translation committee. It was literally one man F Franz who had no Hebrew training and two years in Greek. And these are the "translators" and "theologians" that Jehovah's witnesses follow and believe! 99% of Greek scholars utterly condemn the NWT and yet you guys follow it with your life. It's truly tragic

[@Trublu52]

@@benjamint8073 the Bible does not teach in an immortal soul, Ecclesiastes states that even the soul that sins will die and we all sin. In order to believe in an immortal soul and that we die and go to heaven or hell you have to ignore the resurrection and all the scripture Tells us the dead are conscious to nothing and so on these people have to go through and change the meaning of all these scriptures in order to support This lie. Is a hard pill to swallow. that when we die, and our loved ones are just simply rotting in the grave and await the resurrection,our beliefs doesn’t change that or the truth jw or not simply stated the Bible does not teach an immortal soul.

[@davidmynhardt5705]

People say Jesus went to hell when He died . To the robber He said today you will be with me in paradise . So is paradise hell ? No one ascended to heaven except Jesus Joh 3 13 Dead in Christ resurrected at last trump when Jesus rreturn

[@herbertleonardsmythe7901]

Greetings to you brother, Psalm 88:11-12 will wake these rag balls up, thank you for your teaching brother the living Lord bless you and your family 🙏

[@daddada2984]

So people are in heaven now? They are resurrected into perfect body? Can they see us? So we can pray to them? Like catholicism idea? They have long time in heaven than others?

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

Yes people are in heaven. No they don't have glorified bodies. No they cannot see us. They are kept under an Gods altar

[@daddada2984]

@@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE what are they in heaven? What are they doing in the under altar? Why under?

[@agm-i7t]

A door is a door not a window unless it is parable or idiom or prophecy. I wonder where resurrecting people will be coming from if not from the dust where they were sleeping 😊

[@davidmynhardt5705]

Resurection is to come alive from DEAD . Daniel 12 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dusf of the earth , will awake - some to everlasting life , others to shame and everlasting contempt . Resurrected at last trump when Jesus return . Cannot be resurected while still alive in healven or hell . At resurrection we receive spiritual bodies , how are they consciously alive without bodies ? To be cloved with immoral bodies . John 3 13 No one ascended to heaven except Jesus . Acts 2 34 David not in heaven , why all other ? Many more facts that people dont go to heaven or hell when they die ! 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@TPRBFMTV]

The ABC’s of the Bible is easy to understand Jesus said: “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” ‭‭John‬ ‭5‬:‭28‬-‭29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@DCelente]

Its disheartening to hear the pagan doctrine of immortality from all the ancient pagan cultures being appropriated into Biblical teaching, while the Bible plainly shows that we die, then we AWAIT a resurrection from our Lord

[@RuggedCross1]

to be absent from the body is to be present with the LORD familiar to you?

[@patricj951]

​@@RuggedCross1 It can actually mean that the next state in a person's consciousness is at the ressurrection day. So it does not contradict that we "sleep" in the grave until then. Both a person who died yesterday and thousand years ago will perceive it like they fell to sleep and shortly after wake up again.

[@RuggedCross1]

@@patricj951 NO. The body sleeps, not the soul. Or are you going to call Paul a liar when he said We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. Which means the moment you die your eternal conscious soul goes to be with God. You also call Jesus a liar when He speaks of the eternal conscious souls of Lazarus and the rich man.

[@Nobody92421]

@@RuggedCross1 Amen! How do they explain what our Lord told the thief on the cross about being with him in paradise if they were going to sleep until the judgement?

[@Colin-to1nv]

​@@Nobody92421Quite elementary, really: it turns 'on a comma'! What when we interpret Jesus statement according to Eccl 9:5: "Behold, I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise." This is truly a more dramatic promise, since Martha also confessed the general Jewish, Biblical belief to Jesus, that her brother would be raised by God on the last day. The hope of heaven is greater with this understanding than should we separate soul from body. The Bible gives no warrant to distinguish between soul and body: for "Adam was made a living being" or soul, which returned to the dust, and the spirit in our nostrils is what returns to God who gave it. Paul's statement was based also on his experience being carried away in vision up to the third heaven, etc. His statement is not clear enough to change Eccl 9:5 and ps 115:17 and others. Also, Adventists do not agree with "soul sleep": death for the soul or human being is only akin to unconsciousness, as Jesus said, not actually the same.

[@alenasvarkulys2810]

Most false teachings and errors are based on old testament verses and especially poetry like psalms and etc. Some has iit's roots by twisting New Testament. verses too but those are rare like calvinism .

[@tubextc]

Because saints, dead people do not spectate the living. It’s not like spirits look at the living like watching TV. And thus, praying to one is like praying to the dark deep void of nothing 😂

[@arondagibs2576]

What do u view abt truthunedited his teachings

[@iThinkBiblically]

I've never watched his channel.

[@inaciadiaz7366]

The Bible says we die and then judgement. So does that mean when I die I go to heaven I got my judgement right? So why did Jesus say in revelation? Revelation 22:12 New International Version Epilogue: Invitation and Warning 12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. Isn’t this a judgement too?

[@daddada2984]

Whats the use of judgement day?

[@Trublu52]

@@daddada2984 Ecclesiastes states, but even the soul that sins dies the Bible absolutely does not teach in a immortal soul. This is the teaching of demons the Bible says the entire habited earth will be misled. That’s everybody in order to believe in an immortal soul and then we die and go to heaven or hell you have to ignore the resurrection of the dead and the judgment on the last day , which is exactly what the disciples preach. The resurrection of the dead , it is a hard pill to swallow to think that ourselves as well as our loved ones are just simply rotting in the grave, but this is what the Bible teaches if you read it and let it speak for itself. People will take each and all scriptures pertaining to the subject and say that isn’t really what they meant and you have to read in context Solomon was a man and men of his day said what they mean they did not mince words they have to change the Bible to what they believe instead of letting the Bible me speak for itself. The Bible says do not follow men but follow the Christ

[@charlesfiorucci6068]

For me to live is to christ is to die is gain

[@johna6828]

hallelujah

[@larryhoyt143]

Good scholarship, brother. I agree and pray for your ministry.

[@vatiliaidau1770]

Pray that the Holy Spirit lead him and not the devil as seen in this video

[@louisvega-oe2sc]

People speculate about the Word of God, but don't understand, because the Spirit is not in them! They're, "know it alls that don't know it all!

[@iThinkBiblically]

Sometimes that's true. Its also true that there are a lot of deluded people who think their interpretation is from heaven but it's simply wrong and they can't see it because their pride has blinded them. They think they are closer to God than what they actually are.

[@shaunigothictv1003]

As many people have already commented on other platforms, the debate between different denominations of Christianity regarding hell and soul sleep revolves around four key words. SHEOL, GEHENNA, HADES TARTARUS. The great challenge to Christians is to decipher what these terms meant in their original cultural context in which they were written. In other words, exactly how did the ancient peoples to which these scriptures were written actually understand these terms in their original cultural context and environment. So Christians need to work together to meet these challenges regardless of their denominations.

[@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630]

Just because the bible says something doesn't mean God said it. Solomon said "the dead know nothing"... That wasn't God speaking that was Solomon speaking. Context os everything Edit... "The dead do not praise the lord." Jesus said "i am not the God of the dead but the God of the living."

[@cryptojihadi265]

Lol. Then I guess we can ignore all the things that Paul, Peter. John and James wrote too. And David as well. It's pretty clear which passages are teaching texts and which are merely quoting something someone said that actually happened. Like when Queen Jezebel made her threat to Elijah after his victory over her prophets. Clearly her curse isn't something we should abide by. But when it's in a teaching context like Proverbs or Psalms or Ecclesiastes then it's meant for teaching and wisdom.

[@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630]

@@cryptojihadi265 it's called context dummy. It requires reading and comprehension skills... Apparently you lack those skills.

[@cryptojihadi265]

Funny, your example was Jesus refuting EXACTLY the pagan Greek beliefs you are now supporting. The pagans believed in an immortal soul that lived on in the underworld forever after death. Christianity and Judaism are the only religions that believe in a bodily resurrection. So we AREN'T disembodied spirits of the dead. We actually cone back to life to live as whole beings, just as God created us to be. The pagans believed the dead were "living" just as most Christians now believe the dead are "living" but in a disembodied state. Jesus was trying to refute that error.

[@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630]

@@cryptojihadi265 #1 Jesus was not refuting pagans he was refuting the Sadducees who also believed the dead do not rise. #2 Just because there is a physical resurrection does not mean that those whose bodies have died are currently unconscious. In fact to believe that those whose bodies have physically died are unconscious until the resurrection contradicts numerous scriptures. Jesus told the man on the cross. "Today you will be with me in paradise." Where was the man's body? His body was dead but he was in paradise. It would hardly be paradise if he was unconscious. Jesus told the parable of Lazarus and the rich man, both of them were no longer in their bodies, and the rich man had been buried. Yet both were conscious. Jesus was conscious before he ever had a body, in fact he created the entire universe before ANYONE had a body. Jesus said "whoever believes in me will never die, and whoever lives and believes in me even though he dies yet shall he live" That statement would be a contradiction UNLESS he's talking about two different types of death. The first type of death is spiritual death. "Whoever believes in me will never die spiritually" Hence your spirit is still conscious after your body dies. The second type of death "Even though he dies yet shall he live" is where he's talk about physical death. "Yet shall he (future tense ) live" be resurrected. But the first "he shall never die." Means he will never die spiritually. That means when your spirit leaves your body you will either go into the presence of God, just like Lazarus did. Or you will go out of the presence of God like the rich man did. Both remained conscious even though they were separated from their bodies.

[@ibelieveitcauseiseentit9630]

@@cryptojihadi265 clearly Jesus was not refuting the belief that those whose bodies have died remain conscious. He was refuting the belief that the dead do not physically rise. Like I said ... Context

[@rafaelo2215]

i do not comment on soul sleep because i am not dead and i don't know what goes on in the spirit world ... death is the separation of the spirit from the body ... so if we sleep or are some where else i do not know so why would i speak about something we do not know ... we will find out when we die ... it is safer that way

[@michaelg4919]

Our Triune God bless you and I pray for you! However, I disagree because death is often compared to sleep in the bible and the reason is that, the same way you (usually) don't remember what you dreamed about and don't know how much time has passed, when you die, you wake up in the presence of Jesus our God and savior for the judgement, where everyone get his reward and those he never knew are condemned.

[@jacobanderson63]

Those of God pass from death unto life. We don't die the second death. The second death is the lake of fire. We died to sin once we don't partake in the second death.

[@Alejandro-z5c]

God warns us to stay away from familiar spirits (See DEUTERONOMY 18:10-12.) In verse 10, witches are forbidden as well. King Saul was rejected by God and that’s why he needed answers from another source. Familiar spirits are fallen angels that are good in pretending to be our loved ones. John 11:11-14 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep , he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead. Satan has been using this scheme from the very beginning, when he told Eve, “Ye shall not surely die.” Our souls are not immortal. When we die, there is no conscience of thought. Jesus even calls it sleep. There are only a few people that made it to heaven. Enoch, Moses, Elijah and the 24 elders. These men are our examples to prove that if we obey God, we can make it as well. 1st Thessalonians 4:15-17 mentions two groups of God’s people. Those that are asleep in Jesus (the righteous dead,) and the last generation of faithful living Christians will be gathered by his angels to meet him in the air.

[@paulnavarro3822]

From the beginning we are told what exactly happens to men when they die, no need to speculate God told Adam that when he died he would "return to dust". God did not give us a philosophical treatise about death. No "soul this", no "soul that", simply put, we (all men) die and we "go to the grave". Jesus tells us that he overcame the grave via his Resurrection. Therefore, he now has the power to Resurrect believers in him unto Immortality, which is the ONLY WAY to be alive after having died. People are in the Grave after they die. They don't "go" anywhere, they "return" to dust, ashes, and corruption. Paul tells us that we, believers who have died, will be raised INCORRUPTIBLE when Jesus returns to Terra Firma. He is the HOPE of both the "living and the dead". Souls, i.e., people, individuals, persons, speaking FIGURATIVELY, even as Jesus said of Lazarus, "sleep in the grave", a EUPHEMISM for being dead as a door nail in the Grave.

[@user-kc7pf7xj5j]

If only our Bible scholars would say..." I believe this particular doctrine to be true and self evident but I could be mistaken." Many , if not most Christians have changed their minds on non-essential doctrines through the years. I think this is probably one of them.

[@Darkplanet2011]

Good job. That was a very good video.

[@nsoroma_00]

Kindly explain Daniel 12:1-2 to me if the dead is conscious.

[@iThinkBiblically]

The bodies lie in the dust but when you look at all of scripture their souls are in heaven or hades.

[@nsoroma_00]

@@iThinkBiblically Daniel 12.1-2 shows, Christ is yet to send people to either Heaven or hell….don’t you notice that in the verse? It will happen when he’s coming the second time

[@yhwhismywh]

Is it really Samuel who comes to Saul? Or a demon playing Samuel?

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

It was a demon masquerading as Samuel. The witch mentions that the spirit came from the earth, the same place Jude 1:6 mentions as being used as a prison for demonic spirits. The spirit of the real Samuel returned to God when he died. The last recorded conversation that the real Samuel ever had with Saul was back in 1 Sam. 15 where he tells Saul that God was going to stripthe kingdom from him and replace him with an obedient ruler.

[@samuelpineda89]

This passage talks about the living in christ the born agin we know where going to die but the unbeliever knows noting they are blind and dead we will live with christ on earth we have a share

[@henryjosephfontaine]

Thank you brother, you are a blessing

[@Aleph-1777]

There is a clear difference of where people went before and after Yeshua paid for our sins. Before Yeshua died on the cross the Righteous went to Abrahams Bosom also known as paradise in the heart of the Earth..where they knew nothing that was going on on the Earth... After Yeshua the Righteous go to Heaven. 2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. I hope this clarifies the confusion in Scripture.

[@Aleph-1777]

@jeanclaude7018 oh wow really?? You just schooled me!! Tell me more! Your'e such a scholar!I thought it was a real bosom!!🤣...pathetic.

[@Aleph-1777]

@jeanclaude7018 It doesn't matter what you believe or don't or if the scriptures are true or fables. What I stated is how the story is told and to be understood.

[@DCelente]

Also known as paradise in the heart of the earth, so thats what Jesus meant, that him and the thief would be in the heart of the earth, the grave. In other words, dead

[@michaelnewzealand1888]

@jeanclaude7018 you are completely correct about the comma being an opinion of the translators. I think what people fail to do is look at what the question the thief asked Jesus was he asked Lord will you remember me when you come into your Kingdom? His answer understood the traditional way simply does not address the question. The reality is most people want to believe the traditional view. And even the verses that they think talk about going to heaven don't even mention the word, like to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. But if you have a particular view in mind then verses that are ambiguous can be used to back it up.

[@robc5407]

Luke 16: 19-31 Lazarus and the rich man

[@ShopharTemple]

Ecclesiastes is a lot like the book of Job. We must be very careful taking doctrine from those books. The books in the Bible are inspired by God, and true. It is true Bildad the Shuhite said those things, but the things Bildad said weren't true. They were recorded accurately. Ecclesiastes is Solomons view of life "under the sun". That is how we see life as men, under the sun. But even heathens know there is more to life than just what we see.

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

2 Tim. 3 shows Paul saying ALL of scripture is profitable for doctrine. That includes Ecclesiastes and Job. The same God that inspired the Gospel accounts and the epistles for doctrine also inspired Ecclesiastes and Job to be treated as authoritative.

[@johna6828]

even the unbeliever has been given eternity in their heart to desire after.

[@ShopharTemple]

@@johna6828 Acts 17:26-28 KJV [26] And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; [27] That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: [28] For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

[@johna6828]

@@ShopharTemple amen

[@davidmynhardt5705]

Cannot enter Kingdom without a spiritual body which will be received at resurrection . Also Jesus did not have His glorified body yet . Moses & Elijah at the transfiguration was a vision not physical bodies or souls without bodies . Souls under altar in Rev not souls without bodies A personification . Why dont they praise God being in heaven ?

[@JDivider]

This gentlemen's interpretation reflects higher criticism, in that he takes the clear teachings of the Bible in infuses his own opinion of what he believes the context should be saying. Resulting in the exact opposite interpretation from what the ideas conveyed through the biblical texts. In other words, he's infusing his own ideas to twist Scripture to fit his preconceived ideas, rather than allowing the Scripture to interpret itself.

[@panamanimal]

Exactly!

[@lubindanamukolo4265]

Exactly my thoughts

[@cultchab]

So basically you're saying the dead know what is going on with the living and the living can talk to dead, which is spiritualism, which is of the devil😂 My brother you need the Holy Spirit guidance💯

[@ronv7995]

What a nonsensical, dismissive attitude. At least the video gives reason for his teaching. You're just arrogantly making a statement with nothing to support your smug statement. How is that even helpful? If you care to disect his argument with substance please do, otherwise, why bother with any response at all? We could all leave thousands of unhelpful useless comments, but why would we?

[@samsonsupaka8716]

Mathew 27:53 may not be understood literally but that is the work of the Holy Spirit. This is where the SDAs and JWs and will never understand because they refuse to acknowledge this SEAL blessed with John 16:13, on Jesus purpose.

[@graftme3168]

He never even implied that the dead know what's going on or that they can talk to the living. We know there is no communication between the dead and the living. It doesn't mean they aren't conscious. They just have no connection with the living.

[@wesleysimelane3423]

You butchered JOB today. Not only Job but also the plain as day texts thereby denying the writings are of God but of men in depression, pain, misguided etc Today you denied the bible as God breathed but opinions of men.

[@johna6828]

Holy Spirit carried all the prophets and apostles who wrote Scripture. they did not write of their own accord but as they were led to by the Holy Spirit amen

[@wesleysimelane3423]

@@johna6828 Amen!

[@Truthseeker424]

Revelation 21:23 KJV And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

[@Ken-do4oy]

The word in the Hebrew is thoughts. H 6250. Dr James Strong defines this word as "THOUGHT." Stop twisting scripture to say what you want it to say. God said "The dead know not anything. " Don't call God a liar. All scripture is God breathed. Jesus said "those in the graves will hear His voice. He didn't say "the bodies" in the grave will hear His voice but "THEY" BTW how can God bring back Sodom to their former estate Ezekiel 16:55 if they are in hell? Surely they would need to be resurrected from the dead? Well, if they are in hell, at least they'll get some respite when they're pulled out of the flames so that they can return to their "former estate." 😆

[@richardpriday5156]

Big key here is that the WICKED won't rise until after the Millennium (even Job realized that he would see God in the flesh in the Resurrection). The lack of praise of those in hell is clear from other scriptures in Psalms and of course Lazarus and the rich man in the N.T. Plans die with the death of the wicked as there is no future on the earth. Good point on Job being off on stuff. We also realize Solomon said eternity is in the hearts of men.

[@samuelflores1419]

Any Church or organization that says that they have the truth and without them there is No Salvation should be Avoided. It's all about Christ and perfect finished work on the Cross! Anyone who doesn't agree are not our brothers and sisters in Christ!

[@daddada2984]

Now what the soul is doing? Singing kumbaya in heaven?

[@jokourtruth]

Heavenly souls are waiting for their glorified bodies, as Christ received, in the Rapture if in Christ... after crucifixion. The old testament saints await the same at the resurrection after Armageddon. All will be resurrected after the millennium to the white throne judgment .

[@yhwhismywh]

Sounds like Ecclesiastes is talking about the unrighteous dead. Jesus clearly says Abraham Isaac and Jacob are not dead and God is a God of the living.

[@SGOV86]

Matthew 22:31-32 NKJV [31] *But concerning the resurrection of the dead* , have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, [32] ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” That Jesus said that God is a God of the living is concering to the ressurection.

[@RuggedCross1]

@@SGOV86 Umm no it is speaking of God being a God of the living, past present and future, currently alive or dead. Period

[@SGOV86]

@@RuggedCross1 that is your interpretation. In these two verses Jesus makes it clear that it is about the resurrection. Jesus was here in conversation with the Sadducees who argue that there is no resurrection of the dead. See from verse 23. And Jesus proved them wrong.

[@RuggedCross1]

@@SGOV86 That is not my interpretation it is GOD's interpretation. Jesus is speaking in the present tense here. Yes He is speaking of the resurrection but It is the body that is resurrected not the soul which is eternal

[@SGOV86]

@@RuggedCross1 It is clearly not God's interpretation. If you read from verse 23 you will notice that the topic of conversation was "whether or not there is a resurrection of the dead". Jesus was talking to the Sadducees who claim that there is no resurrection of the dead. Jesus is clear in verse 31 that God is a God of the living because there will be a resurrection in the future which the Sadducees do not believe.

[@cvagresto]

42Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” 43And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

[@Jfernandez02]

Jesus Himself didn't go to Heaven the day of His death, so this way of writing that verse is just plain wrong

[@SGOV86]

The New Testament was written in Greek and in the Greek language there are no commas. During the translation the comma has been placed in the wrong place of the sentence. "I say unto you, today you will be with Me in paradise." "I say unto you today, you will be with me in paradise."

[@Aleph-1777]

Paradise is Abraham's Bosom the waiting place for the Righteous and its in the Earth. Paradise is NOT Heaven.

[@Jfernandez02]

@@Aleph-1777 To the Law and to the Testimony... don't invent doctrines to confirm your beliefs

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

​@Jfernandez02 isn't Jesus one with the Father and Spirit. He went to paradise to God. God and Jesus are one

[@CrazyG-v9f]

Are u saying Solomon was not inspired when writing his book.

[@Kirk-d7v]

1 Corinthians 7:25?

[@tomcisneros5965]

All I can say bout that is the thief on the cross.

[@cryptojihadi265]

SO?! LOL. Love how you people take ONE verse and hold on to it for dear life while completely ignoring all the dozens of plainly stated verses that contradict it. First Jesus didn't go to paradise THAT day. He plainly told Mary not to touch him as he HADN'T been to the father yet. Second, the Greek has no commas, so the translators stuck it there. It should be: I tell you the truth today, you WILL be with me in paradise. NOT: I tell you the truth, TODAY you will be with me in paradise. Then you don't have the Bible contradicting itself.

[@tomcisneros5965]

@@cryptojihadi265 that makes no sense. So today He told the truth? Did not tell the truth before? Makes no sense, but keep believing in a false gospel my friend

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

​@cryptojihadi265 don't you believe in the trinity. God is 1 but 3 in persons. The thief of cross went to God in heaven. Isn't God and Yeshua 1? John 10:30

[@gdg1963]

The dead are currently either in Paradise above or in Hell below. The Holy Bible says they know nothing because they do not know what's going on on Earth from the time they depart. And, guaranteed, those who've gone to Hell are being so tormented that whatever they do know is doing them no good. All they know besides the constant fear, horror, and pain is that THEY WANT OUT.

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

Thank you. Smart person

[@Trublu52]

@@gdg1963 than who will God resurrect because you can only resurrect the dead to believe in an immortal, so you simply have to ignore the resurrection of the dead, it is a hard pill to swallow to think that our loved ones are simply just rotting in the grave. It is easy to believe that they really just go on, but the Bible just does not teach an immortal so in fact, most scriptures like an ecclesiastic state that even the soul that sins dies. There are many other scriptures indicating the same thing and you have to go through scripture by scripture and state that isn’t really what they meant but Solomon was a man and his day men said what they meant and why so many indicate nothing at all and many other scriptures if it weren’t true to believe in an immortal soul is to believe in the teachings of the demons, this is a lie something, the Bible simply doesn’t teach in order to believe it. We have to ignore the resurrection of the dead on the last day and we have to change the meaning of the scriptures throughout the Bible.

[@DCelente]

Its very difficult to discuss the immortal soul theory that people are taught in modern christianity. So hard to unlearn the lie they have believed all their lives.

[@jokourtruth]

Actually they know nothing is referring to the fact that they can no longer change their destination. Heaven vs Hell.

[@Trublu52]

@@jokourtruth wow I personally believe in The Easter bunny, Santa, and aliens landed at Roswell and if you think Omar someone hard enough you can read their thoughts that sounds good to me.

[@TrustInJesusChrist-John3.16]

How can anyone be in hell when there hasnt been a judgment yet. This contradicts Gods perfect justice. "The soul that sins shall die". Ezekiel 18:20. Note, a soul can die, perish at the Judgement. Matthew 10:28 Jesus himself says souls will be DESTROYED in hell. And I'm not SA or JW, but a born again bible believing Christian.

[@Timzy2DripPUBGMOBILE]

Look at story of Lazarus and the rich man. One can go to hell when they die

[@TrustInJesusChrist-John3.16]

@Timzy2Drip That was a parable, not a literal event.

[@TrustInJesusChrist-John3.16]

@Timzy2Drip Rev 20:14 Then DEATH and HADES were cast into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is clearly a metaphor for destruction as neither Death nor Hades are able to be judged or punished. All those without salvation will suffer the vengeance of judgment then be destroyed along with death in the lake of fire. That's what the Bible says.

[@JDivider]

1 Thes 4:14 those who "sleep in Jesus will God bring with him." Either Christ brings the "spirits" with Him to Earth at His second coming, or Paul is stating that the dead in Christ will be brought from Earth to heaven. Jesus gives the unequivocal answer in John 14:2-3: "I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." Directing these statements to HIs immediate audience, the disciples, Jesus assures them that even though He was departing He promises to return for them to be together. When could the disciples expect to be with Christ? At the moment of their deaths? No! But at Jesus' 2nd coming! Jesus was about to depart to heaven, and He does not promise the disciples that they should follow Him to heaven UNTIL He returns for them: "I will come again, and receive you to myself" Or as Job put it: "Till the heaven's be no more" (Job 14:12). The heavens being "no more" is part of the scene of Jesus' 2nd coming: "And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together" (Rev 6:14a, cf Isa 34:4).

[@supersilverhazeroker]

Ecclesiastes is my favorite book to use in this atheist country i live in. i don't think you have the right impression saying it was written in apostacy and that it's completely wrong. vanity of vanities all is vanity, and all indeed is in this world. everything you build up will sooner or later perish back to dust everything will go. the purpose of life is not to be found in the world, but in the Will of God our maker, who created us with a purpose. the purpose of anything is to be found in the intent of its maker. And God has given us His Word to reveal His Will for us. as the conclusion of Solomon after all his observation of the things of this world is: Ecclesiastes 12:13 ¶ Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

[@johna6828]

I have been in a similar position and I agree. Ecclesiastes was a God send for me in my time of trouble and is full of wisdom and truth if read/interpreted correctly. the Holy Spirit carried the author to write this for out benefit. saying it's the words of an apostate who came back but wavers back and forth discredits the word of God. all His word is truth but it's important to be learned and stable in interpretation lest we are led to our own destruction

[@SojournerDidimus]

17:00 The summoning of Samuel is a can of worms, don't so easily assume it is as described instead of another kind of appearance.

[@100superaguila1]

I am surprised you did not address john 11:11-14 in which Jesus himself compared death to being in a state of sleep. John 11:11-14 “These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.” Not only did Jesus know that the dead do not rise until the ressurection, martha herself knew this when she says in verses 23-24 “Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” Notice Jesus never said Lazarus was in heaven rejoicing or in hell suffering, he said Lazarus sleepeth. Not only that, why did lazarus not give us a testimony of heaven or hell? You would think if you saw heaven or hell you would be eager to talk about them, yet lazarus just lived his normal life, also Ithinkbibbically, what is the point of the ressurection if the dead are already in heaven? John 5:28-29 “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.” It says all will come forth either to the ressurectuon of life or the ressurection of damnation, it does not say the dead have already ressurected

[@100superaguila1]

Not only that, the verse you quoted of souls being under the altar is symbolic. 1.) why is there souls under the altar, should they not be in heaven in their mansions? And why are the souls mourning when heaven is supposed to be a place of rejoicing and happiness? And why where the souls told to “REST” a little longer? Also the verse does not say to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, you left out the first part of the verse that says RATHER WILLING, to be absent from the body and to he present with the Lord.

[@100superaguila1]

Also I think ithinkbibbically, I believe you should clarify the difference between the body, soul, and spirit. God is spirit and his spirit gives life and creates a soul. Only God has immortality as said in 1 timothy 6:16. The bible is clear that the soul that sins shall die as said in ezekiel 18:20. And matthew 10:28 says both soul and body are destroyed in hell.

[@elizabethwade5143]

There's people that are not of none of these faiths believe this they say how can you rise from the dead and be judged if they are judged at death I am old and I never knew Christian believed this you can't change there mind's

[@FortheloveofGod07]

Soul sleep is not biblical period. Because elijah and moses appeared in the mount to Jesus. That means they are aware and conscious

[@troyseeley7296]

If people go straight to heaven or hell then what's the point for judgment day...by the way there is no hell 😮

[@bighoss9705]

What the Lord Jesus said you can believe because he was God. Many others said many other things but that doesn't mean it's true per se. These are just thoughts and or experiences by them.

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

What's your name Brother? I learned ALOT from you. I Thank You 🤍

[@balung]

Caleb.

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

Thank you brother 🙂