Why don’t we lose main events in boxing due to injury or failing to make weight?

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Chael Sonnen

Chael Sonnen

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@teamgitusome
@teamgitusome 6 жыл бұрын
inboxing they train smart....in our sport we have tony ferguson lmao
@FlorinToader
@FlorinToader 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@marcosvcorsi
@marcosvcorsi 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@timm285
@timm285 6 жыл бұрын
Thorne K tony walks around in sunglasses and tripped over a wire. Lesson: don’t wear sunglasses inside
@erdiegoer
@erdiegoer 6 жыл бұрын
Lol Best comment ever 😂👏👌
@ChristianSuarez-gz1ig
@ChristianSuarez-gz1ig 6 жыл бұрын
Someone told Tony "break a leg" but he didn't really catch the meaning
@strider956
@strider956 6 жыл бұрын
UberChael replaces Dana by the end of the year. Make the UFC great again.
@poplarbar5059
@poplarbar5059 6 жыл бұрын
You hold your tongue. Brenda shlub will obviously take over the ufc. His knowledge of the game is second to everyone and he is way more of a drawllllll.
@strider956
@strider956 6 жыл бұрын
zukariah F not a draw. More over chin and Callen are way too busy enjoying Brenda"s below the belt area. Eskimo Bros
@poplarbar5059
@poplarbar5059 6 жыл бұрын
Strider bruh if anything shaubs back is getting blown out by rogan. That dudes career was made by him.
@lovridn
@lovridn 6 жыл бұрын
might be a joke and all but holy fuck the whole business would do a fucking 180 lol
@yannisbarrientos7895
@yannisbarrientos7895 6 жыл бұрын
Man that would be awesome. We should start a petition just to hurt Dana's feelings.
@ShouldBeRevisingNow
@ShouldBeRevisingNow 6 жыл бұрын
Less weight classes = bigger weight cuts = more fighters having problems making weight ... also I think it's a little easier to pick up injuries when grappling
@joeroganstrtshots881
@joeroganstrtshots881 6 жыл бұрын
Garrie McDonald Especially knee injuries
@patiencewinsall
@patiencewinsall 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly this and bigger weight cuts = weakened immune systems = infections (sicknesses, staph. etc)
@marionmoseby7490
@marionmoseby7490 6 жыл бұрын
vincentrich I agree. Till is a disgrace
@allenmk138
@allenmk138 6 жыл бұрын
Fighters are doing this to themselves. They are scared to fight at their weight class, so they drop down to gain some advantages. I would check on fighters daily and determine what their actual weight is so that they prevent this.
@marionmoseby7490
@marionmoseby7490 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Mkandawire The problem is that everyone cuts weight, so if you dont cut weight, you will be tiny compared to others in your natural weight class. There is already 2 ways to fix the problem. Make the weigh-ins a few hours before the fight, or adopt the hydration testing that ONE FC uses.
@narutorandomness457
@narutorandomness457 6 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early James Vick was still awake.
@gith5692
@gith5692 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@yashendranaidoo4523
@yashendranaidoo4523 6 жыл бұрын
That was a nasty right hand though
@jalenrose9802
@jalenrose9802 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Jamali 😂😂😂😂 good one
@bucklyopotato605
@bucklyopotato605 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Jamali dat dude was knocked out for a long ass time
@motorcityoctane6713
@motorcityoctane6713 6 жыл бұрын
Sean Jamali I think Vick is still trying to grapple with the ref
@TheRedhenProductions
@TheRedhenProductions 6 жыл бұрын
"Paint dries. We know that, we've all painted a wall, set down the brush, walked away and let it dry.... But what most people just don't know is that if you sit and watch paint dry it can be extremely exciting. How exciting? Well that's what we don't really know. First of all, you have to take into account a number of factors. Just how good is the paint? Well we have to DISCERN whether we're talking about the elite brands, take your Olympic One or your Anne Geddes Baby Paint. OR we could be talking about your bottom of the barrel, Wal Mart Level gutter paint, cost you 5 bucks and you buy it cause your wife was getting on your nerves, she WANTS this wall painted, you're trying to get it done cheaply and efficiently so she doesn't kick you onto the couch. Well the difference, and anyone in THE BUSINESS will tell you this, is that one drys faster than the other, one drys smoother than the other, and they both offer two COMPLETELY different watching paint dry experiences. Olympic One is fast drying, dynamic and markets itself very well, take it from me, that paint knows what its doing. Anne Geddes, to a similar extent also knows how to market itself. How well does it market itself? Well we haven't really seen that yet, its a newcomer, still learning the tricks of the trade, BUT... (*Holds up finger*) give it time, and we could see a serious problem emerging in the interior paint division. Now.. can we say one is superior to the other? Well that we just don't know. Until these two compete wall to wall, we just can't know. Now... Paintbrushes are another factor that you HAVE to take into consideration...." - Chael. P Sonnen on Watching Paint Dry
@joniselbe7072
@joniselbe7072 6 жыл бұрын
TheRedhenProductions what....the...hell...did you just waste your time saying ? dude.o
@orko714
@orko714 6 жыл бұрын
I read the whole thing in Chael's voice...
@AtTheSourceStudios
@AtTheSourceStudios 6 жыл бұрын
@@joniselbe7072 lol thank you
@AngelRivera-uv3zw
@AngelRivera-uv3zw 6 жыл бұрын
TheRedhenProductions Dude, that was spot on! This is hands down, the most underrated comment in the history of youtube comments.
@StevenDavisREI
@StevenDavisREI 6 жыл бұрын
Made me laugh the whole way through! Plus I read it in his voice! Bravo
@dedfoker
@dedfoker 6 жыл бұрын
Boxers do train and cut weight but they are doing strict dieting and the cut is done the entire camp, so when fight week arrives, they do little dehydration. Unlike mma who cuts 10-20 lbs in one week or less before weight ins. Injuries are relative rare in boxing because the training is not that aggresive to the body, whereas in mma you do grappling, wrestling, striking, workouts and even some strenght and conditioning, which eventually will take a toll to the body.
@oceanwaves83
@oceanwaves83 6 жыл бұрын
Carlos Cruz common sense, yet this is probably the best answer I've read lol
@allenmk138
@allenmk138 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Boxing is a one dimensional fighting style. You need to train for a lot of things to get ready for a mma fight, which will result in injuries and the weight cut just makes it harder to not get injured.
@bravonana10
@bravonana10 6 жыл бұрын
Boxers cut a lot less weight compared to MMA fighters, a lot of boxers don’t even cut any water
@ryan2284
@ryan2284 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Mkandawire it’s not that it’s one dimensional. Grappling just wears your body done way more than getting punched unless your talking about the brain
@fjfjfjfj5964
@fjfjfjfj5964 6 жыл бұрын
the pulling out factor i think is because MMA is so complex u cant be injured, that injury could make the difference between foiling a submission or getting choked the fuck out
@omarhalaweh2985
@omarhalaweh2985 6 жыл бұрын
David Haye in boxing pulled out from quite a few boxing HW main events
@collinhess3643
@collinhess3643 6 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 6 жыл бұрын
He's like Cruz with his injuries, can't sign a fight deal with out damaging ligaments.
@brzy1188
@brzy1188 6 жыл бұрын
Haye's been a joke ever since the Klitschko fight and the pull out vs Fury.
@conor-_C
@conor-_C 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Vick his last 2 fights were main events and there was not title on the line
@soulveiw
@soulveiw 6 жыл бұрын
"name one that could sell 100,000 Ppvs??? Other than vs wlad" Why stop at one?? Vs Valuev 469,000 Vs Ruis 177,000 Vs Harrison 230,000 Vs Bellew 890,000 Vs Bellew 775,000 "never a main eventer" LOL He has also been the main event in many others that were not PPV and you could add 2 more to the list if not for injury.
@Serjohn
@Serjohn 6 жыл бұрын
may i remind you that 12 of the 2016 olympic freestyle wrestling gold-silver-bronze medalists were 22 years old,you just have to win a lot for 2 years and you become champion , for some mma athletes it takes 8 years to even get in the ufc and 4 years to get a tittle shot , let alone most mma guys have retired their own sport , in kickboxing you have guys retiring at 24 , in wrestling 28 is too old , youngsters heal like is nothing, have you checked cormier's,romero's,cucuy's,woodley's age ?
@JosephOliver
@JosephOliver 6 жыл бұрын
Tito Tapped.
@dallasgangsta187
@dallasgangsta187 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Oliver shut your mouth
@LolitaDavidovich934
@LolitaDavidovich934 6 жыл бұрын
Tapped my ass.
@gamessportsandmore3371
@gamessportsandmore3371 6 жыл бұрын
He did though. I showed it to my coach he hadn't watched the fight and he said that was a tap.
@cbm3
@cbm3 6 жыл бұрын
The only time I remember a main event bout being cancelled due to "injury" was during one of the Tyson v Holyfield events because Holyfield got cut during sparring. That isnt close to the type of stuff we see in MMA and specifically the UFC though. I cant ever remember it happening because a guy didnt make weight.
@rustedgreen5916
@rustedgreen5916 6 жыл бұрын
I remember I think it was Real Sports on HBO. And it was about nhl hockey. They interviewed hockey “goons”, and I believe one of the questions was “do you just love to fight?” And I believe he said no way, that he hated it, that he was scared every single time. That he thought about it the night before terrified but he was good at it. Maybe some mma pro fighters just don’t like fighting. Maybe it’s human not to like that.
@marcosleon215
@marcosleon215 6 жыл бұрын
Gsp has said he’s terrified in the cage, nick has said he gets anxiety when he has a fight coming up and he’s not training, like for example he’s stuck doing media, he said training enhances my feeling of security before a fight
@marcosleon215
@marcosleon215 6 жыл бұрын
Also nick, nate, and chael have said fighting is not fun and these guys are tough mfs
@MrMarbles0Xecution
@MrMarbles0Xecution 6 жыл бұрын
I like fighting. Pussy
@erikq9788
@erikq9788 6 жыл бұрын
MMA: using all limbs with little to no padding Boxing: heavily padded gloves, humongous cups, shoes.
@brob8204
@brob8204 6 жыл бұрын
I have to hand it to Chael, man. He comes up with original, interesting takes on the daily. Good deal!
@southgonholditdown
@southgonholditdown 6 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I was doing the dishes and randomly I thought what a wonderful fighting career Chael had, thanks for letting us all enjoy it
@MoheTitan
@MoheTitan 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe not as often but it happens. The difference is the whole card generally gets cancelled or rescheduled because in boxing 99% of people don't care about the undercard. In recent memory: - Crawford injured himself and his fight with Horn was postponed - Billy Joe Saunders pulled out of fighting Martin Murray - Pulev pulled out of fighting Joshua so Takam stepped in - Haye Bellew was rescheduled because Haye injures himself in almost every camp
@kylethornberry7074
@kylethornberry7074 6 жыл бұрын
Chael "puttin on his winter weight" Sonnen. GOAT.
@greg0r-32
@greg0r-32 6 жыл бұрын
Chael is so damn charismatic and interesting to listen. Even if i wasnt interested in combat sports i would still listen to him probably...
@izzo28
@izzo28 6 жыл бұрын
"Tape it up and walk out there!" I love that quote.
@ryanrayonec4764
@ryanrayonec4764 6 жыл бұрын
In boxing Chael 90 percent of the time it's due to far left field issues. If a boxer is breathing they normally show up. The greatest example I've ever heard of this.....and it's a story almost no one knows .....Oscar had a bad sun burn going into the Javier Castillejo fight. He didn't want to cancel. The fight went all 12 rds. Had to be amazing torment. Every UFC fighter should know that story.
@nicktoosaucey8685
@nicktoosaucey8685 6 жыл бұрын
De la hoya or just your boy oscar
@jonlejeune1951
@jonlejeune1951 6 жыл бұрын
Dana and Scott should see this. One of the best points I've heard about anything in a while.
@-The-Darkside
@-The-Darkside 6 жыл бұрын
I can name numerous big boxing fights from the last few years that were called off due to injury. Haye-Fury, Wlad-Fury, Billy Joe Saunders-Murray, Haye Bellew (before both fights), Crawford-Horn. Then theres the fights that happened despite injury.
@DefiniteIntegral0to1
@DefiniteIntegral0to1 6 жыл бұрын
Ali vs Foreman was delayed over a month due to Foreman’s injury. Foreman got a cut over his eye while sparring during his training camp in Zaire.
@dikasochirin
@dikasochirin 6 жыл бұрын
Chael, Bisping, Mcgregor ... love em hate em .. they show up, I respect that!
@forcealchemist2603
@forcealchemist2603 6 жыл бұрын
In general I agree, but a staph infection is no joke. Fighting with a staph infection puts both fighters at risk. It would be pretty shitty to end up fighting a dude with staph and ending up missing a year for a MRSA infection that won't go away
@LaurenceGill2000
@LaurenceGill2000 6 жыл бұрын
Smaller gaps between weight classes so less cutting. Injuries do happen but they just reschedule and everyone forgets in the end, and because undercards are much less important in boxing no one cares about the other fights that get moved or go ahead on a smaller show on the original date. Example of missing weight just this year: Scott Quigg in his WBO world featherweight championship fight against Oscar Valdez. Examples of injuries postponing fights: David Haye vs Tony Bellew II, from memory wasn't Anthony Joshua vs Klitschko meant to happen on Dec 10 2016 but Klitschko got injured so they knocked it back. Examples of injuries cancelling fights in boxing: Tyson Fury vs David Haye (twice), Tyson Fury vs Klitschko II.
@LaurenceGill2000
@LaurenceGill2000 6 жыл бұрын
Other examples of injuries postponing fights: Usyk vs Gassiev, Groves vs Smith.
@mrbadguysan
@mrbadguysan 6 жыл бұрын
I'm nor going to disagree with you, but there's multiple boxing associations. It seems like there's fewer postponed matches in boxing as a ratio of matches.
@LaurenceGill2000
@LaurenceGill2000 6 жыл бұрын
Oh god yea youre absolutely right, as is Chael conceptually. He's just exaggerating.
@insanenative445
@insanenative445 6 жыл бұрын
theirs just something about chale. i can listen to any of his content all day long if need be
@josephbyrne3763
@josephbyrne3763 6 жыл бұрын
Chael the greatest of all time Daniel Cormier missed the Olympics because of a bad weight cut what the I understand your point of this video it's a good point it's more prevalent in MMA but there are examples
@j5865
@j5865 6 жыл бұрын
Wise word from the uncle Chael
@1Leggo9my9Eggo2
@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 6 жыл бұрын
Not at all, he’s completely wrong here lol
@dillonh9419
@dillonh9419 6 жыл бұрын
Does Chaels wife pick out his t-shirts for him??
@bilalsyed5310
@bilalsyed5310 6 жыл бұрын
"I follow the sport of boxing closely " *didnt know who Anthony Joshua was*
@happydays6649
@happydays6649 6 жыл бұрын
Trolling obviously
@marionmoseby7490
@marionmoseby7490 6 жыл бұрын
Who?
@ryanbates4412
@ryanbates4412 6 жыл бұрын
Did you mean Anthony Johnson?
@bilalsyed5310
@bilalsyed5310 6 жыл бұрын
Chael didnt kno who Anthony Joshua was and is claiming to follow boxing closely
@marionmoseby7490
@marionmoseby7490 6 жыл бұрын
Bilal Syed Yeah we know who Chael is but I think you are confused. Rumble retired years ago!
@johnsantos9108
@johnsantos9108 6 жыл бұрын
You could also make a case on how advance boxing is compared to mma. Boxing has more recognizable organization, better pay and treatment of top fighters, and a strong following in the lighter classes.
@talleyrand9442
@talleyrand9442 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Chael. No other sport or entertainment enterprise has as many top ranked cancellations as the UFC. And everyone involved including WME-IMG, entertainment and sports agency OWNER, already know this. It's a damn shame. Fighters, and their camps, and their management, the UFC as a whole need to be doing a much much better job in sorting this out. Completely unprofessional as it currently is.
@str8904
@str8904 6 жыл бұрын
It's important to note a lot of MMA aren't just training in 1 discipline like Boxers or Wrestlers. They're doing Boxing, Wrestling, BJJ, Muay Thai.
@reneulloa8578
@reneulloa8578 6 жыл бұрын
In MMA you have more body parts that can get get hurt before the fight. Your opponent also has more ways to attack the areas that are hurt. Which could lead to further injury and longer wait period in between fights.
@ForeverCali100
@ForeverCali100 6 жыл бұрын
It's cuz MMA training is tougher. And they cut more weight. Lightweight in boxing is 130. Lightweight in MMA is 155 and those 155 pounder really weigh 185. MMA weight cutting is a joke. Why will Ortega and Holloway fight at 145 when they walk around at 185.
@keydaaq1805
@keydaaq1805 6 жыл бұрын
You didn't get it ufc fighters pull out because of little injuries like jose aldo or like dos anjos. If you broke something or your weight cut was to bad and you're in hospital its ok to pull out of the fight but not if you are sick or just bruised some shit like that
@CavemanJesus4Life
@CavemanJesus4Life 5 жыл бұрын
Holloway is about 170lbs, too skinny at 155lbs
@rory693
@rory693 6 жыл бұрын
Eddie Mustafa Muhammed missed weight and didn’t fight Michael Spinks in a rematch with Michael Spinks for the Light Heavyweight title in 81. It was offered as a 10 rounder but Spinks refused 4 hours before the fight.
@rory693
@rory693 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry 1983
@daniel_najar
@daniel_najar 6 жыл бұрын
lol I've thought about that too. Big boxing fights hardly ever get cancelled.
@MartialArtsAcrobatic
@MartialArtsAcrobatic 6 жыл бұрын
Chael, hats off to you man. I wish I had the skills to articulate like you do.
@CavemanJesus4Life
@CavemanJesus4Life 5 жыл бұрын
Back in RINGS MMA, Bobby Hoffman winning 2 fights earlier refused to enter the Ring against Fedor who dismantled his 2 opponents quickly. Hoffman never entered the ring and left. Fedor won becoming the Tournament champion.
@1Leggo9my9Eggo2
@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 6 жыл бұрын
So let me break this down. Firstly there are more than just a few examples of main event fights being pulled for one reason or the other, usually it’s when they get popped but injuries also. Secondly, boxing training consists of completely different conditioning and training techniques in one maybe two fields of specialised martial arts (striking). This means drastically lowering the risk of injuries during sparring, considering how much more you have to train for in MMA. Thirdly, boxing has many more weigh classes in between that make it easier for fighters to fight closer to their natural weight so the weight cut isn’t ever really an issue, but even then some boxers miss weight, just rarely main event ones. Lastly, I can never remember a time when a fight got cancelled in boxing and the opponent that didn’t get pulled got the W, in fact I don’t think it’s ever happened. Maybe in wrestling it has because in wrestling it’s usually a tournament on a given period of time where they don’t have to draw any money, in professional comabt sports there’s a paying audience therefore you have to either rearrange the fight or bring in another opponent. NFL and other sports alike are team based sports so that’s a bad example but maybe something like tennis would have been a better one...again that is a tournament scenerio so of course you can’t reschedule. These things are not exclusive to MMA, and chael didn’t put too much thought into this. What I will say is in MMA, the people within it aren’t as experienced and skilled at certain things like they are in other sports, it’s a growing sport that is still jumping hurdles like the others used to have to.
@awilson96
@awilson96 6 жыл бұрын
They do, but they have more flexibility with rescheduling cards. UFC have set cards regardless of a fight already being made. Cards are made in boxing off of a fight being created. Also, more weight classes equals less cutting, and MMA incorporates more complex movements, and is ultimately more dangerous to train.
@AlexVerbruggen
@AlexVerbruggen 6 жыл бұрын
Either that or ban any rankings. If you only want shows, make shows. If you want rankings. Use forfaits. Happy to see Chael stepping up to the plate like that. I wish more fans would be so outspoken about this issue. And I wish more fighters would say outright that the belt is worth nothing but money. And catching that belt has nothing to do with rankings.
@AlexVerbruggen
@AlexVerbruggen 6 жыл бұрын
They could also make seasons. Which would help avoid champions picking fights that suit them. If the UFC wants a fighter they should value him without having the counterpart names. You think he's a possible champ. Pay him like a champ. Not always the best system like soccer proves there is still a lot of corruption when players are payed royally. In my mind fighting and money is just a bad combo. Fight only works for self defence and honor :) Nonetheless I still like watching fucking skilled fighters. I don't like watching knock outs that much any more. Love more tap outs. Like Khabib would say. A tap out machine :)
@tune5k
@tune5k 6 жыл бұрын
I agree somewhat however there is a more likely chance of an individual pulling out of something than an entire team. A team is less likely to forfeit considering they have backup players to substitute those who are injured for an event.
@KingBongHogger
@KingBongHogger 6 жыл бұрын
I usually don't see eye to eye with Chael, but god dammit, he's right. The only reason I can see is MMA's image problem. If they let injured fighters compete athletic commisions might use it as ammo to get MMA out of their state. After listening to Big John McCarthy talk about how MMA still gets discriminated against I wouldn't be surprised.
@DraziwLestat
@DraziwLestat 6 жыл бұрын
Chael always speaking the truth!!!
@tommcilwain73
@tommcilwain73 6 жыл бұрын
Although it's an extremely admirable discipline, boxing is a one-dimensional combat sport. Whereas mixed martial arts has so many aspects to train and cross-train, injuries are a lot more common.
@Seuspesos
@Seuspesos 6 жыл бұрын
terrence crawford weighed 177 shortly after unifying the 140lb division and he never misses weight. Errol Spence probably cuts from the upper 70s to 47
@averagejoefitness8488
@averagejoefitness8488 6 жыл бұрын
How about this Chael , at the beginning of the NFL season every team submits their FINAL Superbowl roster , no substitutions , see how that works out .
@klefusmcdonald2644
@klefusmcdonald2644 6 жыл бұрын
One reason you don’t see it in Boxing as much... USADA Chael... repeat after me Chael... USADA!!!!!
@tomjensenlyrics
@tomjensenlyrics 6 жыл бұрын
If you miss weight in a three round fight then maybe they should add a 10-9 4th round score for your opponent that will start you off in the fight at a points disadvantage If you miss weight for a 5 round fight then have that sixth round scored as 10-9 for your opponent. This makes it so that a tied fight will be awarded to the fighter who MADE weight!
@jbz7443
@jbz7443 6 жыл бұрын
MMA's brutal. I can hardly kick a heavy bag without my knees popping and crackling. It affects your hips and back too. Plus all the BJJ. In boxing you line up perfectly so you only wear out joint cartilage from long term cumulative striking. Maybe you can tear something jogging, but its hard to get injured.
@JohnnyHands
@JohnnyHands 6 жыл бұрын
This has probably been mentioned in one of the 292 other comments (at this writing), but MMA fighters, with their much more diverse training of wrestling, kicking, choking, elbowing, and more, risk dozens of other ways *TO* get injured that boxers don't with just glove fighting training.
@Mufc4life1998
@Mufc4life1998 6 жыл бұрын
Most of the the people you mentioned are heavyweights so it’s easy for them to make weight.
@Xboxishomo
@Xboxishomo 6 жыл бұрын
Love your vids Chael - much love from Aus
@harveybirdman_23
@harveybirdman_23 6 жыл бұрын
Chael making so much sense.
@neverfail9432
@neverfail9432 6 жыл бұрын
Injuries shouldn’t hurt ratings or win loss records. Someone like Whittaker who comes in, fights a monster, gets injured, comes back to fight the same dude, gets injured again, how can you punish someone like that?
@dakotasequin5984
@dakotasequin5984 6 жыл бұрын
Weight class issues in mma vs. Non issue in boxing leads to less weakening of the body.
@mtache12
@mtache12 6 жыл бұрын
Chael, NFL and many other sports have TEAMS. EVERY week in the NFL their are MANY players from EVERY team that sit out because of injuries, being sick, or whatever. Similar with other spots. MMA fighters don't have this luxury. Sorry for the CAPS, but trying to emphasize my point. Point taken with Boxing/Wrestling, but MMA is more violent.
@Deadletter6
@Deadletter6 6 жыл бұрын
Boxing has so much money and sponsers that’s why. Tecate and Corona adding a zero to your paycheck makes fighters take it seriously
@maitederouet3038
@maitederouet3038 6 жыл бұрын
Sonnen never pull out of a fight in 40 years of activity, MMA fighters are pull out merchands 100%
@patrickcoyne3211
@patrickcoyne3211 6 жыл бұрын
Amen - I don't know if it is possible, but I would love it if there was an MMA Season where there was an actual date set for the Quarter finals, semi finals, and finals.
@haadnaqvi2305
@haadnaqvi2305 6 жыл бұрын
In boxing the main event is a Co promoter to the point where they kind of ARE the show. Not so in MMA, where the show is "UFC 240" where the event of the ufc putting on fights is the show you are paying for, not just the main event but some other fun fights too. A forfeit clause would be a nightmare in a non-tournament format, you would never know who the "legitimate" best fighter in the world at a weight class ever was. It would be annoying. The nature of a fight may not change but the story line would be very hard to follow unless you convert to a tournament format which takes too long in MMA and as for one night tournaments, may be considered dangerous and not ideal to samction
@johnc3212
@johnc3212 6 жыл бұрын
MMA training has more ways to get injured then boxing training. I think more mma fighters miss weight because alot of them come from wrestling backgrounds where cutting a lot of weight is very common
@steelski01
@steelski01 6 жыл бұрын
Kurt Angle Won an Olympic Gold Medal with a broken freaking neck! It's True! It's True!
@SeBushi
@SeBushi 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine that , putting all the heavyweights in a cage and who ever isn’t knocked out or submitted is the champ
@stuna91
@stuna91 6 жыл бұрын
When chael speaks you listen.
@m.a6416
@m.a6416 6 жыл бұрын
A- They get paid. Theres dozens of boxers who confessed in interviews to going into their fights covering an injury. Megafights included B- They dont train the way MMA fighters train so its less strenuous training
@m.a6416
@m.a6416 6 жыл бұрын
Yea... the topic of the video is main events,, not journeymen
@wowthatsawesome2762
@wowthatsawesome2762 6 жыл бұрын
To give Conor some credit he fought out a fight against max with a blown ACL and went into the fight with chad menses with a fucked up ACL. Guy is an animal love him or hate him.
@MATISISDAN
@MATISISDAN 6 жыл бұрын
Top boxes have many more fights and their are a million weight classes so you can choose the best option
@kellykernaghan4381
@kellykernaghan4381 6 жыл бұрын
If a guy cancels a signed fight, the other guy should be paid to go into the ring with a microphone to just trash talk him relentlessly and unanswered on the live PPV card for maybe 5-10 mins. Guy who cancels should get an L on their record as well. I think pulling out of fights would be very rare and entertaining at the same time, as well as boost the promotion of the fighter. Get to see his wild side, so to speak.
@Kaspar0v1
@Kaspar0v1 6 жыл бұрын
chael is correct because ufc did exactly that to Colby...he wudnt fight on a certain date so they striped him of his title...it shud be the same for everyone who agrees to a fight and then doesn't make weight or fight...(btw Colby didn't agree to a fight...he asked for some time b4 his next fight)...Colby wasn't ducking anyone...a lot of other fighters do
@Uknowjustin
@Uknowjustin 6 жыл бұрын
Best mma related channel
@johnschreckengost2847
@johnschreckengost2847 6 жыл бұрын
You do see fights drop out, but not main events because they get paid A LOT to show.
@GHOST_-bn3ht
@GHOST_-bn3ht 6 жыл бұрын
The Three faces of Chael: - Studio Chael - Uber Chael - Grocery Store Chael Who's your favorite?
@happydays6649
@happydays6649 6 жыл бұрын
Uber Chael
@lelnin
@lelnin 6 жыл бұрын
The answer is simple, boxers get paid well. Therefore, the fighters have a nutritionists, a physical therapist and a personal PT. Not just the coach doing all that. A normal Personal trainer would tell Tony not to kick poles, there is a different way to fortify your shins. And have you seen the videos of Tony deadlifting with cat form?
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 6 жыл бұрын
Also there is larger amounts of money at stake at big Boxing events than in MMA events, like TV deals, sponsorship etc so more pressure to not bail out.
@albertwilsion869
@albertwilsion869 6 жыл бұрын
Mma fighters have all that to
@lelnin
@lelnin 6 жыл бұрын
@@albertwilsion869 agreed, but they usually have "Yes Men", since MMA fighters mostly make 50k-100k , while boxers make 5-10 million. Therefore , they can afford the most capable personnel, not just their friend who got a degree at a community college.
@daniellongoria9622
@daniellongoria9622 6 жыл бұрын
Boxers get paid shit btw
@lelnin
@lelnin 6 жыл бұрын
@@daniellongoria9622 only boxers fighting 4 round fights and in a third world country. MMA fighters get paid horribly even when they are champions.
@HopyHop1
@HopyHop1 6 жыл бұрын
The first time Holyfield vs. Tyson was scheduled Tyson pulled out due to injury. The second time it was scheduled Tyson pulled out because he was in prison.
@Jamie_Wilson
@Jamie_Wilson 6 жыл бұрын
It's probably because in boxing the range and variety of movements utilised whilst sparring are alot less than your typical MMA fighter. Whilst possible, it's alot less likely a boxer will tear knee ligaments or break their foot etc. Plus they wear big gloves, meaning less arm and hand fractures. Also the rounds are alot shorter, so boxers spend less time at the limits of their physical endurance - at the point a boxer is counting down the last 10 seconds of a round an MMA fighter is only just at the half way point. And as your body tires, your risk of injury sky rockets. And if your a boxer and start to feel your hamstrings tighten, you can potentially coast through the remaining rounds by clinching, using the ropes to support you whilst you defend etc. If you have the same issue in an MMA fight you have nowhere to hide...you can't clinch, because you'll be open to knees, elbows and worst of all take downs (putting more pressure on your leg and knee ligaments), you can't use ropes to take your weight, because against the cage your essentially trapped unless you clinch and then reverse the positions to enable you to get away. When you don't have to worry about takedowns, a slight knee injury isn't a big deal. You can fight, not at full effectiveness but still competitive at least. You can ofset the reduced defensive footwork with good head movement, ring positioning, opportunistic clinching etc. Now imagine your inside octagon with reduced knee stability. Your take down defense will be terrible, and once your opponent realises you have a problem they can target your knees also if they choose using legkicks, oblique kicks (which were able to destroy Robert Whittakers knee with one blow by Yoel Romero and put him out for basically 1 year). Boxers have very little risk of taking damage to their lower body, since strikes bellow the belt aren't allowed, whereas MMA allows for kicks, knees and even elbows and punches to the legs if the opponents position allows them to connect. Bottom line...an MMA fight has more ways of hurting you due to the vast amount of extra strikes and techniques allowed vs boxing (I totally forgot about leg locks, knee bars, heel hooks etc - which if the opponents holds on to for longer after you submit or you try to act tough and refuse to tap, can easily damage your ligaments, tendons and joints and put you out for half a year or more)
@bigbobabc123
@bigbobabc123 6 жыл бұрын
David Haye pulled out against Wladimir Klitschko, Tyson Fury twice and Tony Bellew once
@alaskaimage395
@alaskaimage395 6 жыл бұрын
I can forgive injury but not failure to make weight... unless it's a super last min thing.
@KingofKarnies
@KingofKarnies 6 жыл бұрын
Other combat sports have only a single discipline to train for. MMA has multiple disciplines to train for, and therefore increases your chance for injury in training. I do agree with the problems of missed weight and injuries do need to be addressed, but with a multiple discipline combat sports there will be an increase in injuries that prohibit the athlete from competing.
@TheMMAMoneyMinute
@TheMMAMoneyMinute 6 жыл бұрын
Probably because the payday in boxing is a fight you can’t afford to drop out of.
@Unknown-tk9dt
@Unknown-tk9dt 6 жыл бұрын
World boxing super series semi finals with Callum smiths opponent pulling out.
@khalabeebstiopic7065
@khalabeebstiopic7065 6 жыл бұрын
How ironic would this video be if Chael pulled out of the fight Fedor? I know it most likely won’t happened, just a funny thought
@paul5899
@paul5899 6 жыл бұрын
How'd Klitchko ruin boxing exactly?
@cattycats4
@cattycats4 6 жыл бұрын
he means Klitchkos ruined boxing by not fighting each other and having 2 "champions" promoting the ever increasing expansion of new belts and ambiguity into who is actually the champion.
@jackgallagher1438
@jackgallagher1438 6 жыл бұрын
cattycats4 as if they should fight each other they are flesh and blood ffs get real!
@Yumm...
@Yumm... 6 жыл бұрын
I assumed he was talking more about his fighting style. Vitali retired long ago and Vladamir was the undisputed champ in HW for 10 years, if anything HW was the most obvious division of who the champ was. A lot of people have a go at Vlad because he was huge and didn't have great style or great opposition
@Flamethrower1942
@Flamethrower1942 6 жыл бұрын
Because they are and were fuckin boring as fuck
@1Leggo9my9Eggo2
@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think level of opposition was their fault at all tbh, I think a lot of Americans say this because the klitchkos rarely came to the US to fight meaning North America lost a lot of interest in heavyweight boxing and boxing in general. The world doesn’t revolve around America though...much to their disbelief
@theun-wisewiseguy5270
@theun-wisewiseguy5270 6 жыл бұрын
@Chael Sonnen Q: Could you please doing a small segment on marijuana, painkillers and possibly explain what drugs USADA test for? And, possibly explain why and how some users slip through the cracks, of the 'testing pool'?
@joshua-ke8ht
@joshua-ke8ht 6 жыл бұрын
The early days of ufc didn't have many pull out as I can remember. I might be wrong
@alcottdevalte7440
@alcottdevalte7440 6 жыл бұрын
because it`s just boxing and training, they are more focused on one thing, and higher payday...
@omarhalaweh2985
@omarhalaweh2985 6 жыл бұрын
David Hayes HW boxing main events with Tyson Fury and Bellew scrapped due to injury of the top of my head
@michaelBodhiBhakti
@michaelBodhiBhakti 6 жыл бұрын
The MMA ego is different than all the other combat sports. The MMA mind has been shaped in a way that allows them to continue to be paid in the future even tho they didnt feel the best one week or day so they pulled out of a PPV bout. Dont allow that to happen so easily and it wont
@ConstantlyRushing
@ConstantlyRushing 6 жыл бұрын
What % of MMA injuries are shoulder/upper boddy injuries (not spine)? Most injuries are during practice of martial arts other than boxing. Particularly BJJ.
@goddammitalana
@goddammitalana 6 жыл бұрын
chael, the 3rd grade called, it wants it's shirt back.
@kevinmyers440
@kevinmyers440 6 жыл бұрын
I was the biggest boxing fan, from the days of watching it on Tuesday night fights on USA, ABC on the weekend, it's dead, I don't care if their main events don't get canceled because their main events suck. Promoters and managers build their fighters' records up by fighting bum's never putting the great Fighters against other great Fighters, I don't care about boxing anymore because boxing didn't care about itself
@edpark54
@edpark54 6 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest: In boxing, fighters miss weight all the time in mega fights, you just don't hear about it ... cause they're mega fights. Roy Jones Jr missed multiple times, promoters didn't care and public did know. The weigh in was NEVER a 'main attraction'. Plus, there's juice in boxing, usada ruined UFC
@Boudica234
@Boudica234 6 жыл бұрын
I think the #1 cause for cancelled or missed weight fights in MMA is the gamesmanship of extreme weight cutting in MMA. Being physically heavier and bigger than your opponent seems to offer a bigger advantage in MMA than boxing for instance. If Floyd Mayweather cut extreme weight before a match and then showed up 20 lbs heavier on fight night, I dont think it would be any advantage at all (in fact would prob be a disadvantage). Whether real or not, MMA fighters believe added size gives them an advantage in the clinch, with grappling and in power striking. Hence their goal is typically to stay as big as possible before a fight, dehydrate themselves to a dangerous extent right before the fight to barely make weight, then rehydrate immediately after weigh-in. This usually results in fighters weighing 10-20 lbs. more than their listed weight class at the time of the fight. I dont have any answers but do wonder if same day weigh-ins might help.
@vegastjg
@vegastjg 6 жыл бұрын
UFC in a dark alley is a must buy ppv
@tpnurdle1
@tpnurdle1 6 жыл бұрын
I think if a fighter misses weight once, he gets a big fine. If twice, larger fine and forced to move up a weight for good, no exceptions. If a 3rd time happens suspend them for a year and a large fine. That’s at least a start. Weight cutting should NEVER be a reason to pull a fight.
@marionmoseby7490
@marionmoseby7490 6 жыл бұрын
Kurt H Theres better ways to do it. All they have to do is adopt the hydration test system that one fc uses.
@tpnurdle1
@tpnurdle1 6 жыл бұрын
Khabib Nurmagomedov That would certainly help. I think fighters are also simply trying to cut way too much, Especially the week of.
@marionmoseby7490
@marionmoseby7490 6 жыл бұрын
Kurt H Its definitely getting out of hand. One fc did it perfectly. They weigh you, but they also test your hydration levels to make sure you didnt cut very much water weight. Nobody is cutting 20lbs in ONE like they are in the UFC
@nedmodelo1988
@nedmodelo1988 6 жыл бұрын
Spot on. I've been wondering about that as well. I'm no expert but boxers seem to make a lot more money, could that be the reason why?
@conspiracybear1564
@conspiracybear1564 6 жыл бұрын
Ding ding ding u nailed mma guys can make as lil as 16g
@nedmodelo1988
@nedmodelo1988 6 жыл бұрын
A gladiator revolt (fighter strike) could change all that very quickly.
@keydaaq1805
@keydaaq1805 6 жыл бұрын
Because boxers have their own management and sponsors where's mma fighters are in organizations like the Ufc
@conor-_C
@conor-_C 6 жыл бұрын
Vulnerable,Gullible Sheep as a main event not a chance
@striketacticz0750
@striketacticz0750 6 жыл бұрын
Greedy dana white hog all the money his. Net worth 500 million when poor double champ DC only 4 million without the fighter ufc and dana will be nothing only thing he really did special was give fighters oppurtionty to make enough money to leave ghetto but not enough as there real worth
@Tal-wb9jn
@Tal-wb9jn 6 жыл бұрын
Forman got a cut and the Rumble in the jungle was postponed...4weeks
@jamestodd1104
@jamestodd1104 6 жыл бұрын
Fury Wlad 2 Joshua Pulev Wilder Povetkin We’ve had a few recently
@mattbent6035
@mattbent6035 6 жыл бұрын
David Haye a few times, Tyson Fury did, Povetkin did and that's just off hand grant it's nowhere near as frequent as MMA but it sure does happen
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