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@karlg9893
@karlg9893 Жыл бұрын
Critically, we know from season 6 of the Clone Wars that Artoo had been to Dagobah with Yoda, so when Obi Wan appears to Luke in ESB to tell him "you must go to the Dagobah system", R2D2 is able to get him there because his memory wasn't wiped after the fall of the republic. It's unlikely that any other nav computer would have been able to locate it.
@ninjanoodle2674
@ninjanoodle2674 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying this. After learning about Count Dooku deleting Dagobah from navigation records, I was wondering how they knew where Dagobah even was located in Empire Strike Back.
@OrionPak
@OrionPak Жыл бұрын
Was wondering that also, forgot r2 been there before
@stephenkyburz6529
@stephenkyburz6529 Жыл бұрын
This is where Dave Filoni's genius shines.
@randomrazr
@randomrazr Жыл бұрын
could jedi survivors have been saved iif they headed to dagaboh?
@J1995M
@J1995M Жыл бұрын
@@randomrazr only if they were strong enough to not go crazy living next to the dark side cave, which most people probly wouldnt have been
@johnbyrne3402
@johnbyrne3402 Жыл бұрын
I can’t imagine Dooku being able to live a hermits life. He was too accustomed to the finer things.
@bhgraf08
@bhgraf08 Жыл бұрын
I agree. He wouldn’t be able to pull it off
@TJDious
@TJDious Жыл бұрын
He might have used it as a less permanent hiding place though.
@theperfectbotsteve4916
@theperfectbotsteve4916 Жыл бұрын
to be fair with the avaliable technology he could probably bring some buildings with him and live there that way
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord Жыл бұрын
you don't think he could furnish a cave with the finest luxury goods in the galaxy? all it takes is wall hangings and you could be indoors anywhere, nice stone floors, vaulted ceilings. that's pretty doable. remember the cave steeped in the Dark Side is why Yoda could hide there. if I was Dooku that's exactly where I'd go.
@richardlee5084
@richardlee5084 Жыл бұрын
He could have the finest arrangements created by servant droids.
@MetaSynForYourSoul
@MetaSynForYourSoul Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Starkiller, a guy so powerful in the force he can literally just disintegrate you, seeing Yoda on Dagobahand just being like, "NOPE!" jumps back in his ship and goes. 😂
@thetruebatman4632
@thetruebatman4632 Жыл бұрын
To be fair Yoda is creepy as hell lol, especially if you first saw Warwick Davis’s Leprechaun before being introduced to Star Wars.
@Creator_Veeto_PAEACP
@Creator_Veeto_PAEACP Жыл бұрын
Why i love legends canon. Yoda is a monster to sith and jedi alike
@129das
@129das Жыл бұрын
Starkiller was powerful but unstable he did not have well control of it on ether side.
@Force-Multiplier
@Force-Multiplier 4 ай бұрын
its just a fear effect not that Yoda is actually capable of matching Starkiller Yoda struggled with a little ship in Clone Wars and then even died after doing it again to help Luke Starkiller took down a star destroyer Yoda has nothing even close to being close to that
@MetaSynForYourSoul
@MetaSynForYourSoul 4 ай бұрын
@Force-Multiplier Wut is this cap?! Yoda made 2 Star Destroyers crash into each other AFTER battling Sidious. And he didn't die because he lifted the x wing, he died cuz he was 900, also he had been practicing the force ghost thing for a long time.
@val_gets_wet
@val_gets_wet Жыл бұрын
Dooku could forsee the fall of the republic, so i think it's safe to assume that he wanted to protect his old master. Maybe somewhere deep inside younger Dooku, he wanted Yoda to live and not completely eradicate the Jedi. So he knew that only Yoda would know where Degobah was, and guessed that only Yoda would know to hide there. And by deleting it in the archive, he was pre-emptively protecting Yoda and keeping the Jedi order alive. On purpose.
@Londubh
@Londubh Жыл бұрын
It's also arguablethat Dooku didn't intend to betray the Jedi so much as the republic
@marnixbark66
@marnixbark66 Жыл бұрын
Dooku never said to wanting to kill jedi or the order what the siths objective has been since dark bane 1000 years bedore. But he wanted all corruption in de republic to be gone. Senate and jedi order. In the scene where obi one is captured on geonosis Dooku shows sad and strong feellings to qui gon which shows his empathy and emotion. Hes visably sad, which no sith has without being conflicted. Which dooku was not at all.
@marnixbark66
@marnixbark66 Жыл бұрын
I think its a stretch to say he wanted to protect yoda when deleting the archive files as it was done long before the fall of the republic. But Dooku never wanted to kill jedi or the order
@missourimongoose8858
@missourimongoose8858 11 ай бұрын
He definitely owed Yoda one for making him his apprentice against the Jedi orders rules
@marcthompson2118
@marcthompson2118 Жыл бұрын
I think he wanted to hide the Dark side planets so he and Sidious could learn from these places and use the dark side powers that followed from them for their own goals and powers.
@Wally-pu2hh
@Wally-pu2hh Жыл бұрын
Ffuhh Sidious. All hail Doookoo
@InternetOpinion
@InternetOpinion Жыл бұрын
I like this theory a lot.
@TheAussief1
@TheAussief1 Жыл бұрын
Or just to hide them from Sidious.
@isaacsantana6560
@isaacsantana6560 Жыл бұрын
Only thing that matters is king plagues wise coming Luke Skywalker grandfather coming kylo ren grandfather coming king plagues is alive
@tHEHEAd1138
@tHEHEAd1138 Жыл бұрын
​@@isaacsantana6560 Dude, did you just have a stroke?
@joshdeaktor5827
@joshdeaktor5827 Жыл бұрын
I think the deletion of Dagobah was coincidental for Dooku. I have a tough time believing Dooku would have exiled himself in a swamp area to eat frogs and live in a cave. Sounds like paradise for someone of Yoda’s species but not a human/vampire from Serrano.
@JesusFriedChrist
@JesusFriedChrist Жыл бұрын
People do whatever it takes to survive. Even Dooku
@isaacsantana6560
@isaacsantana6560 Жыл бұрын
Only thing that matters is king plagues coming Luke Skywalker grandfather coming kylo ren grandfather coming
@theyreoutthere.huntinggear
@theyreoutthere.huntinggear Жыл бұрын
I always thought the planet he was from sounded spicy. Like the pepper 😂
@SidorovichGaming
@SidorovichGaming Жыл бұрын
Vampire? There are no vampires in Star Wars and Dooku is not a vampire. He's just an elderly human who's pale because his status doesn't force him to walk under the sun a lot, rather, dwell in his grand palace. Also, yeah, imagine how bad would that feel. Being exiled from your own palace to some swamp to eat frogs. But I guess it's okay for Yoda, his species seems to enjoy eating frogs.
@joshdeaktor5827
@joshdeaktor5827 Жыл бұрын
@@SidorovichGaming look up “Tales from Vaders Castle” graphic novels. It is strongly suggested that Dooku becomes “vampire like” in that storyline. It was also partly an homage to Christopher Lee playing Dracula in a previous role.
@mortalitydoesstuff8965
@mortalitydoesstuff8965 9 ай бұрын
I honestly think it's a combination of all the suggested theories. Some of the worlds other than Kamino were likely also by the order of Sideous, but Dooku was a very intelligent man in his own right and likely had his own agendas, some of which were to help his master, some to escape him, and some to cover his tracks
@ScottyMcYachty
@ScottyMcYachty Жыл бұрын
Maybe there's a more scientific reason he deleted so many planets. Recall that the method Obi-Wan used to pinpoint the spot Camino OUGHT to be was by using the gravitational influence of other celestial bodies in the system. Deleting planets that might complete the puzzle would help conceal the real targets.
@SidorovichGaming
@SidorovichGaming Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@bryanleblanc5648
@bryanleblanc5648 Жыл бұрын
tbh it's ridiculous on so many levels that a person could delete the knowledge of many planet systems without evidence, so it doesn't matter what headcannon you want to believe. What, the Jedi archives are the galaxy's Wikipedia on all planetary maps? No one who had been to those systems noticed this in the 20+ years before the fall of the Republic? No permissions required to delete them, no archive history, no system admins noticing? No one mapping new star systems to notice? No massive casualties resulting from hyperdrives blasting through these places in space that are supposed to be empty? No hungry corporations taking advantage of these unutilized planets not on the official maps? No one in who had been to these 37 systems in living memory going to the library and being confused? No books or posters or other non-electronic evidence of these missing planets and systems? Kenobi figured it out in a day after hearing a strange name and talking to a friend, but no one else ever did? The list goes on.
@ryanakers1372
@ryanakers1372 Жыл бұрын
If the majority of the worlds deleted by Dooku were ancient Sith strongholds or had a strong Dark Side connection, then maybe in addition to hiding his main target (Kamino), Dooku was also trying to hide Dark Side knowledge from Sidious that he planned to acquire and possibly use against Sidious at some point.
@TheCrunchbite
@TheCrunchbite 6 ай бұрын
But he deleted them when he was still a Jedi…
@jernaugurgeh8110
@jernaugurgeh8110 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheCrunchbite But was he really. He had perhaps already turned dark......,,,l
@heiral7773
@heiral7773 Жыл бұрын
Dooku is a WAY more complex character than whats given on screen. This is wild. Thank you for all the information its honestly mind blowing and helps me to gain unnoticed respect for the character.
@voltrono4166
@voltrono4166 Жыл бұрын
well, all of the characters are more complex than what we see on screen... especially the 3 major prequels. And especially Anakin... they didn't really show much of Anakin's hourney to the dark side in the first two sequels nor in Clone Wars.
@prestonjones4941
@prestonjones4941 Жыл бұрын
Dooku wasn't fully evil. He just wanted dark side power to further his own cause. He has a Jedi back up plan
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 Жыл бұрын
For those saying Dooku couldn't live on Dagobah due to his refinement, recall he was a Jedi Master. Privation and hardship are old hat for him. Besides, it only takes a small ship full of nice things to make things cozy.
@nicholashodges201
@nicholashodges201 Жыл бұрын
That and he was literally abandoned on a mountain to die when he first manifested force ability as an infant. He didn't get a taste for affluence until after he left the order
@nicholashodges201
@nicholashodges201 Жыл бұрын
Also the very real risk of a lightsaber suppository is a *very* strong incentive
@jt5765
@jt5765 Жыл бұрын
Jedi don't suffer any Privation from what we are shown on screen. Ok they certainly aren't wasteful or gluttonous but it's not like they have to go without the things they need.
@voltrono4166
@voltrono4166 Жыл бұрын
it would be tough to live on Dagobah. No Starbucks. ha ha
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069
@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholashodges201 Very good point. He was always stylish, but that doesn't require that much money. Moreover, in "Dooku: Jedi Lost," Ventress muses on Dooku's palace and his yacht and notes that despite both being stuffed to the gills with luxury and priceless antiques, that Dooku cared for none of it, but, rather, he had them because it was expected of him as Count of Serenno. She notes Dooku actually lived very simply in his private chambers, which were rather spartan, and his only vice was good wine.
@corbinskywalker
@corbinskywalker Жыл бұрын
OUTRAGEOUS THIS IS
@jessemillan1385
@jessemillan1385 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Count Dooku knew about the Cave of Dagoba and it's ability to bring out a person's worst fears with the force.
@Im-Not-a-Dog
@Im-Not-a-Dog Жыл бұрын
Given that Degoba is a nexus point in the Force and is particularly attuned to the Dark Side, perhaps Dooku wanted to deny Sideous another world that could serve to boost his power. Dooku was possibly even saving it so he could use it to grow his own power to eventually overthrow Sideous, either to take his place as the leader of the Sith or to overthrow him to "Balance the Force", as Dooku was a strong believer in the old Jedi prophecies.
@brandonwright2285
@brandonwright2285 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Dooku erased many to cause confusion, but some were specific. Maybe he hid ir for himself, or maybe he hid it in the hopes that if his former master were to survive the clone wars, it would give him a hiding place. We know Dooku did things (at least prior to the clone wars animated series) out of love for the greater good. It's not crazy to think he'd give Yoda a hiding place.
@dreadrath
@dreadrath Жыл бұрын
I sort of like the idea that Dooku was cooking up some grand plan in the background that even Sidious wasn't full aware of and using his job following Sidious' orders to cover his own scheming (The best deceptions being hidden behind truths - I have done your bidding master - and maybe just a little bit more you did not bid.) Only he never got a chance to carry it out because Sidious betrayed him earlier than he'd anticipated. I also like the idea that Dooku selected Degobah as a sort of emergency "My plans have gone to hell" hiding place from either the Jedi or Sidious; only for that same hiding place to be chosen by Yoda much later. I do think he has the self-discipline needed to, just barely, withstand the dark side nexus' mindfukkery,
@Chrispy1990ful
@Chrispy1990ful Жыл бұрын
I think they had a multitude of reasons for erasure. To hide palpatine's plot, to have various locations to use for exile, and possibly locations that might contain ancient dark side secrets like sith holocrons that he could use to gain an upper hand against palpatine.
@michaelmurphy2112
@michaelmurphy2112 Жыл бұрын
This is the theory I lean toward as well. I'm sure he realized at some point he'd have to defeat Palpatine to increase his own power, so he hid the various systems so he could gain more power in secret. The added bonus was a place to hide, just in case the inevitable happened before he was ready for it. As far as not being able to live on Degobah, his plan may have been a relatively short stay there before moving somewhere else a little more comfortable
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 9 ай бұрын
@@michaelmurphy2112yes. Also, it is an entire planet, only Yoda chose to live near the dark side cave. For a dark side user, hiding exactly opposite it on the planet might be a better option, as the cave would attract attention from a Force Wielder, while someone like Dooku could make his presence shrink and become easily overlooked.
@michaelalbinozurita6796
@michaelalbinozurita6796 Жыл бұрын
Watching this video makes me think of Dooku like a Severus Snape situation. Dooku was very intelligent, he knew very well that he could not underestimate either forces. For the same reason why he never had his yellow and red eyes like we saw in the other Sith, he chose not to fully commit to certain things. At the end of the day his motivations were mostly politically driven. He was disappointed with how the republic had failed as a government. If anything I think he might have had the mindset that Kylo Ren exposed to Rey: "Let the old die with the old, and let's make something new ". Basically let the old system burn and start from scratch. I'd like to believe that he looked to have contingency plans left and right.
@vdubsvideos4619
@vdubsvideos4619 Жыл бұрын
There’s another possibility: Dooku’s slide to the Darkside was long and gradual. In the beginning he was well-meaning, and could have believed he would be able to control or defeat Sidious at some point. If he deleted the systems at the beginning of his journey, when he still had some good in him, so to speak, then perhaps he deleted Dagohbah specifically so that his old master would have a place to hide when things go down - either for the purpose of having a back up if his alliance didn’t go well, or just out of respect for his old master.
@andydaniels3029
@andydaniels3029 Жыл бұрын
I think Dooku was very much aware going into his apprenticeship with Sidious of the Sith Rule of Two and that at some point his usefulness to him would end (especially if he took on his own apprentice) and consequently, he would need an escape plan before that happened. I think on the whole, he erased as many planets as he could that he knew were a nexus in the Force, both light and dark side, not necessarily because he could go to a light side nexus planet and hide, but because he wanted to prevent Sidious in his dark side avarice from altering the nexus in a planet from light to dark and thus allow Sidious to only enhance his powers because allowing that to happen would mean it would only be a matter of time before Sidious (or his new apprentice) would find him. Alternatively, as was suggested by another post here, it could be that he was planning to use every planetary nexus he knew of for himself later on to overthrow Sidious, as he knew that would probably be an inevitability as well.
@isaacsantana6560
@isaacsantana6560 Жыл бұрын
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@andydaniels3029
@andydaniels3029 Жыл бұрын
@@isaacsantana6560 Actually, Plagueis was killed by Palpatine prior to Palpatine revealing himself as Sidious. By the timeline, this occurred in 32 BBY, during the events of the Phantom Menace. Intriguingly though...there's a remarkable precedent for Sith apprentices killing their masters just as the new apprentice reveals himself/herself.
@isaacsantana6560
@isaacsantana6560 Жыл бұрын
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@isaacsantana6560
@isaacsantana6560 Жыл бұрын
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@isaacsantana6560
@isaacsantana6560 Жыл бұрын
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@ericblue5436
@ericblue5436 Жыл бұрын
Considering the affluence that Dooku comes from, I don't know if he'd have it in him to live in hiding on a system like Dagobah. Even if his plan was to hide from Sidious or The Jedi Order. I think there was more to it than him having an escape plan. But I can believe that he erased those three dozen plus systems from the archives to throw anyone trying to investigate his plans off of the trail. Even more so with systems strong in The Dark Side, as he might use their reserves to become more powerful than his master.
@TheEpicSpire
@TheEpicSpire Жыл бұрын
seems like he may have wanted to use that wealth to help fund a construction of a dark side temple on the planet, perhaps to harness that energy for himself. "Hiding out" in lavish style with a horde of subjects to rule like a king
@ericblue5436
@ericblue5436 Жыл бұрын
@@TheEpicSpire I can accept that answer.
@jimbowlan5804
@jimbowlan5804 Жыл бұрын
Eric Blue supposedly is built on a former darkside temple so that’s why palps was able to hide himself from the jedi
@ericblue5436
@ericblue5436 Жыл бұрын
@@jimbowlan5804 I don't believe I mentioned Palpatine in that respect.
@jesus4gaveme03
@jesus4gaveme03 Жыл бұрын
It was likely that it was a method of covering his tracks. If one, or even a few planets were deleted from the archives then it may have been obvious or suspicious and it could have been tracked to why it was deleted and by who. But if many were deleted, it would look like a statistical anomaly and be harder to track.
@AaxxReez
@AaxxReez Жыл бұрын
I like to think he hid dagobah for his old master Yoda. He knew if he was successful with Palpatine, the jedi would all die and he still held some love for his former masters and padawans (qui gon gin)
@OldHenryLee
@OldHenryLee Жыл бұрын
Great timing for this guy.... Just gave Tales Of The Jedi a rewatch last evening. ... FANTASTIC little series of shows 💯. - Thanks much for the breakdown of this. ... Very well done per usual
@polleonardtaliesinhywel6986
@polleonardtaliesinhywel6986 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Dagobah’s connection to Jinn. It is where Jinn told Yoda to go in the Clone Wars towards the end. 😉
@TA-hf6si
@TA-hf6si Жыл бұрын
Great hearing you talk about more than only one theory, I enjoyed some oposition to the first one. Well done bud!
@foofoo3344
@foofoo3344 Жыл бұрын
By the way, Dark Yoda would have been terrifying even to Palpatine. Good thing Yoda didn't fall.
@theghost6412
@theghost6412 Жыл бұрын
I suppose when you look back and think about it Dooku's eyes never turned yellow. So he never really fully turned to the Darkside. He was somewhat of a mentally unstable and disillusioned Double Agent who was at a crossroads in his life and was never fully committed to either side. But also kept to his own internal compass of right and wrong. He was possibly walking the path of what some call a Grey Jedi. Listening to the Force to guide him, but with so many corrupted people around him both good and evil, his every attempt to get something done was interfered with and stopped. The Force was possibly what guided him to delete all of those planets, early moves on a chessboard to set up more advanced moves much later down the track. The Force had its own agenda, wipe the slate clean of the corrupt and try to reestablish a new Jedi Order with new uncorrupted people. Down the track the only real successful Jedi Order belonged to the future Empire. And that was the Royal Guards Jedi Order. Fel led them and kept them on the straight and narrow. The other Jedi Orders were easy prey to falling from grace and imploding from corruption.
@collegebro85
@collegebro85 Жыл бұрын
Way off topic, but has anyone ever realized or able to explain why the Clones in young adulthood look EXACTLY like Padme’s head of security rather than Jango!? 🤯 just look at 2:51 and see for yourself…
@arthurderas
@arthurderas Жыл бұрын
Given the presumed sincere speech he gave Obi-Wan in Ep.II when he wishes Qui-Gon was around, it's possible he wanted to preserve pockets of Jedi operations by deleting these systems. He knew Sidious' plan to rule the galaxy. It's possible he compared what planets the Sith did not have in their registrar.
@meinbherpieg4723
@meinbherpieg4723 Жыл бұрын
Love the content. Great video.
@Devlerbat
@Devlerbat Жыл бұрын
I figured he deleted a bunch of random systems alongside Kamino to obscure which system he actually wanted to hide.
@BigPapaPandaJoker
@BigPapaPandaJoker Жыл бұрын
Mitch was one of the names for Yoda in a draft of 1 of star wars movies. Forget which one
@chubber5496
@chubber5496 Жыл бұрын
I think palpatine had dooko erase planets that were strong with the force/dark side because he didn’t want it to fall under the area of imperial rule and therefore make them known planets. If they were known planets, then there would risk a possible force user discovering these planets, breaking the rule of 2, and disrupting Palpetines plans. He also wants to prevent Vader from ever finding these, tapping deeper into the dark side, and possibly becoming powerful enough to overthrow him, as palpatine knew that he had the potential to do so
@Matthewwithers33
@Matthewwithers33 Жыл бұрын
Hear me out on this, what if dooku reasonably figured dagobah was suited for yoda and if he knew the Jedi would be destroyed he wanted yoda to hide. We know he was sith but not a monster, he cared for some of his Horner jedi friends, we see that when he is saddened about quigon’s passing when he and obiwan are talking in episode 2. So it stands to reason that he respected and cared about yoda enough to set him up a hidning place in hopes he would go there
@timkenobi2222
@timkenobi2222 Жыл бұрын
Palpatine was gifted in the idea that he had to tell Dooku everything so at the last moment he would never turn on him. This led Dooku to go on a crusading event of deleting sith worlds strong in the dark side. However it seems unlikely for Sidious to not be aware of all the sith dark side caves if the entire galaxy is already discovered
@ajax201000
@ajax201000 Жыл бұрын
Dooku likely new that he may be betrayed by Palpatine one day or that Dooku himself was planning on betraying Palpatine and that if something went wrong he may need a place to hide much like Yoda did. He chose Dagobah due to its ability to hide force signatures.
@bhgraf08
@bhgraf08 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting addition to the archive, master!
@tremerefury
@tremerefury Жыл бұрын
He planned it as a last ditch contingency if he had to hide from either Palpatine or the Jedi. He planned to escape there, regroup and hopefully return... But I don't think he would have withstood the Nexus.
@shawnkarg3794
@shawnkarg3794 Жыл бұрын
The notion that Dooku erased more than just Kamino to hide what was going on DOES make sense, but I doubt he would have focused on a lot of known Sith worlds. If discovered, it would have perhaps not revealed the clone army but certainly would have suggested the party behind it. It would make more sense to have a seemingly random set of little known worlds erased so that even if more than one got noticed, it would seem like a random glitch rather than an act of subterfuge.
@jamescole4258
@jamescole4258 Жыл бұрын
How do you erase/delete a planet that has a rep in the senate?
@shawnkarg3794
@shawnkarg3794 Жыл бұрын
@@jamescole4258 Again, I think it would lend credence to the idea that the memory had suffered a technical glitch rather than actually being removed deliberately.
@theoneandonlymsg991
@theoneandonlymsg991 Жыл бұрын
Following the rule of 2. I personally believe that Dooku actually deleted those systems more so for himself than for him and Sidious. If he were to follow such a rule. He probably would've eventually had an advantage against Sidious when it would come to finally overthrowing his master. But also since Dooku wasn't necessarily the kind of evil that Sidious was. I think he was more so trying to lead Sidious away from such potential power in the event he would fail. Which of course had happened. So in that sense. Whether he realized it or not. He was more so helping the force take away any potential power boosts Sidious could've gained within that time he would reign as the emporer. That's more so my personal theory.
@badfather1724
@badfather1724 Жыл бұрын
Have you considered it a hint of the path that led dooku to become a sith? One ending in a cave only his master knew of, causing madness and the dark side to well up in him and turning him to evil? I think you've all forgotten he wasn't always evil.
@Lyndonberg_Gaming
@Lyndonberg_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Doku seemed to regret killing his direct connection Jedi but saw it as a necessary evil, so what if he took the stories he heard of certain members of his close Jedi connections on how triumphs there were on certain dark systems, With them having a win despite the darkness and only them having direct knowledge of the system and coordinates, Duko saw it as a solace , a check and balance of the necessary evil he saw giving the Jedi dark necksases to hide near off of updated star maps like today on degabar
@DrXtoph
@DrXtoph Жыл бұрын
Love your content!
@tarzankom
@tarzankom Жыл бұрын
Having known someone with dementia, I think it's safe to say that Yoda DID in fact go insane from the dark side nexus on Dagobah. He was still coherent enough to give Luke basic training, but anything beyond that, he was pretty much nuts. Like the bit where he was trying to get a ration bar from R2-D2, it was pretty clear Yoda was off his rocker.
@user-yq9im9dk9z
@user-yq9im9dk9z Жыл бұрын
No way, that was Yoda testing Luke. He completely drops it when he's in his hut.
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer Жыл бұрын
Lol.. the suggestion some passive dark side on a planet can turn Yoda insane.
@Kenibus
@Kenibus Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t Qui-Gon know about Dagobah? Since in the clone wars, he guided Yoda there beyond his death.
@Mr.Liam.
@Mr.Liam. Жыл бұрын
When I saw the new Pistol form in Star wars Jedi survivor, it instantly reminded me of dookus dueling style. Lovely stuff
@jamaxk1373
@jamaxk1373 Жыл бұрын
I believe new Canon shows that the emperor knew where yoda was. And has specifically told Vader to leave him alone, since he didn't want to lose Vader.
@brunozeigerts6379
@brunozeigerts6379 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Dooku deleted Dagobah ... to use as a place of hiding for himself... or, on some level... sensing that Yoda might need a hiding space.
@AlexDuWaldt
@AlexDuWaldt Жыл бұрын
If Dooku deleted Korriban from the archives he would have gotten caught. You can't delete the knowledge that quite literally trillions of beings had over the contetious and galaxy shaping wars of the past that all centered around the Sith and Korriban. It would have triggered alarm bells almost immediatly.
@defiant9809
@defiant9809 Жыл бұрын
I think For all of Dookus' Faults and short comings he did have one Redeeming quality. And that was his loyalty towards his old master. But he was using it, as a tactic. Against his New Master in Sidious. An insurance plan if you will. Where he would have an Ace up his sleeve. Basically hedging his bets. Against both sides. If you remember Dooku Had no love of the Sith. But he also knew the Jedi. Always would fall short. Because of their ideology. Thus always being doomed too failure.
@isaacsantana6560
@isaacsantana6560 Жыл бұрын
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@nathanjones8475
@nathanjones8475 Жыл бұрын
Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete.
@stormybear4986
@stormybear4986 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual but what is your source for this information?
@jdleviathan6319
@jdleviathan6319 Жыл бұрын
I only knew Kamino was erased and just guessed it might be Dooku since the movie suggests that but I didn’t know about the rest of this
@Real_Shit_With_J
@Real_Shit_With_J Жыл бұрын
If he only deleted one planet, it would have been easier to figure out which one and investigate, discover the clone army earlier, and put an end to their plans. I mean, it's not that difficult to figure out.
@antivizm979
@antivizm979 Жыл бұрын
Best star wars lore channel by far
@jaredbanister6880
@jaredbanister6880 Жыл бұрын
Well by hiding dagobah he had that knowledge of were he could find Yoda if after they defeated the Jedi he was betrayed by Sidious as well. If Yoda survived, he could find him there and together they could face Sidious.
@SwivelHippie
@SwivelHippie Жыл бұрын
I think Sidious knew Yoda was hidden on one of these planets, if not the actual planet. I also believe if Vader found Yoda Yoda could have attempted to turn him back to the light. Especially if he informed him his children lived. Maybe Sidious foresaw this? Or feared it?
@Geminias
@Geminias Жыл бұрын
In the clone wars cartoon, Dagobah was one of the planets that Yoda was led too by the force. I also seem to recall some of the literature about that episode stating that Dagobah was a sort of primal world where the force grew from. In this case, it was dark side orientated but it also hinted that there were worlds that were equally blessed with the light side of the force.
@greenmachine1987
@greenmachine1987 Жыл бұрын
Do we know if Dagobah is Yoda’s home world? He seems well suited to live in the environment.
@hittemni
@hittemni Жыл бұрын
yeah, given the introduction of Mt. Tantiss, the most likely explanation is either dark side nexus worlds or list given by sidious, including wayland, degobah, exegol and others
@michaelschoener5667
@michaelschoener5667 8 ай бұрын
I believe it is a combination of them all. He needed to hide his tracks, he most likely deleted a few for Sidious, maybe one or two or three extras for himself. Some were simply ways for Sidious to hoard knowledge, others were possibly fallback plans, I am guessing one or two were where resources for the final order came from. I am sure Dooku needed a place to hide too. Great video.
@1990tattoo
@1990tattoo Жыл бұрын
I'm sure more than a few systems were creating arms, vehicles, ships, ect. Others likely due to them having or even being a dark side nexus. There's even some that are likely could've been lesser known ancient Jedi training grounds that may have fallen out of use for one reason or another.
@ShuRugal
@ShuRugal Жыл бұрын
initial thought: if you're destroying data in your enemy's systems, it is possible they have offline backups somewhere you don't know about. If they do a backup restoration, they might notice the deletion, and that draws attention to the deleted item. A basic principle of cyber warfare is that you should avoid excessively-surgical deletions, because it will tell your enemy what you are interested in hiding from them. At the very least, by deleting 36 additional systems, Dooku ensures that if the tampering is noticed and investigated, the Order now has 36 false targets, and won't KNOW that those are false targets. it also makes it easier to cover up the deletion as a system malfunction. One system being deleted is suspicious. two is even more so. forty systems? obviously a malfunction.
@ciscohernandez3228
@ciscohernandez3228 Жыл бұрын
I think you touched on a topic that deserves its own movie. To be brief... -Attack of the Clones, in the elevator Anikan told Obi Won "It's been 10 years since I've seen her (Padimae). -Later when Obi Won meets with the Caminos he says Sifo-Dyas was killed almost 10 years ago. -That 10 years would mean Sidous and Dooku placed this order when Qui Gon discovered Anikan in The Phantom Menace. - That said, clearly there is a story or two that needs to be told between The Phantom Menace and The Attack of the Clones. This should have Dooku deleting the archives, the why he did it. His relationship with Sidous. How important Sifo was to the Jedi counsel and his death.
@TheOnlyJDefianT
@TheOnlyJDefianT Жыл бұрын
They have, tales of the Jedi on Disney
@ramsay5738
@ramsay5738 Жыл бұрын
A Dooku series needs to be made about his past and his eventual abandonment of the jedi
@beedabop5797
@beedabop5797 Жыл бұрын
Have you seen tales of the Jedi?
@marnixbark66
@marnixbark66 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha it is for sure about that. But i would love to see another series on dooku
@humblemumble1591
@humblemumble1591 Жыл бұрын
Dooku was so under rated, extremely sharp, cunning, ruthless, and he knew all the ways of the jedi. He could have taken over the galaxy if he was younger and with his own army.
@dallasm9890
@dallasm9890 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! He’s one of my favorite Characters! God bless you all 🙏❤️
@theforcedragon3781
@theforcedragon3781 Жыл бұрын
@@dallasm9890 Hello me
@dallasm9890
@dallasm9890 Жыл бұрын
@@theforcedragon3781 hello
@Phantom_Workshop
@Phantom_Workshop Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Galen marek could have sit with yoda and discussed the force, just for yoda to discover starkiller being a dark side user but not having the same bloodlust others have had, this would be an interesting route to follow because yoda would then learn that there is strength in balance between the light and the dark. He could have even trained Luke with a few dark side teachings to help combat his father, he may have even been able to save Vader and being back anakin without him dying
@heavensfugitive6447
@heavensfugitive6447 Жыл бұрын
Awesome theory. I think it’s also possible that Dooku still had good in him and wanted to leverage himself should he one day face Sidious. I always wonder what would of happened if Obi Wan and Dooku would’ve teamed up against The Emperor when Dooku offered to during the beginning of the Clone Wars.
@JoniukasVader
@JoniukasVader Жыл бұрын
ORDER 66
@sammylane21
@sammylane21 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a Yoda DISNEY+ 90min special going into details on his life post Clone Wars era.
@MWH12085
@MWH12085 Жыл бұрын
When Starkiller casually bumps into Yoda was one of my favorite moments in the game
@alkiviades007
@alkiviades007 Жыл бұрын
where can i find this movie that you show Dooku in ?, the one in the beginning, Whats its name ?
@SexDrugsAndJesusPodcast
@SexDrugsAndJesusPodcast 6 ай бұрын
One of my favorite videos
@jaredquinney204
@jaredquinney204 Жыл бұрын
I really was curious about this. I only thought that he deleted only Kamino
@Mr.HootieHooRDK
@Mr.HootieHooRDK 6 ай бұрын
What a very creative way to ask people to subscribe!
@grant4360
@grant4360 Жыл бұрын
How cool would it have been to have a Dooku game that fully detailed his fall to the dark side and then what happened between that and Attack of the Clones
@querijnverkaik6333
@querijnverkaik6333 Жыл бұрын
Sidious and dooku had a plan to build a sith empire, I think that dooku erased these worlds so they could build there empire on there in case the republic and the Jedi did not fall. I think this makes perfect sense.
@beutelaffe9801
@beutelaffe9801 Жыл бұрын
I theorise, that Dooku kept the knowledge of the erased systems to himself. He might have actually visited all the worlds to learn their ancient secrets, if he had the time. I think he might have been looking for a way to get rid of Palpatine, and become the Dark Lord of the Sith himself.
@williamweygandt1623
@williamweygandt1623 Жыл бұрын
is it possible that it was planned by Duku to kickstart the Jedi Order into returning to what it once was? we already know that the Jedi counsel and order had changed and that Yoda had basically blinded himself to what was going on, but on the same token he could have easily set it right or started anew. so from this knowledge isn't it also possible played the role of the villain in order to set the chain of events that would kill the Sith and return the Jedi to what they were meant to be?
@GarathWolfe
@GarathWolfe Жыл бұрын
some of those planets likely use place parts of Deathstar planets ,Sith Relics and other planets that planning place to build major project ,possible so not located by Sidious .insure some form light might hide in .
@Epsteinrican
@Epsteinrican Жыл бұрын
Where did you get this information from specifically?
@Gor85
@Gor85 Жыл бұрын
It's possible. I think Dooku could use Dagobah to hide. It's unknown by many,far,swampy,dark. And tainted by dark side. And also it was removed because it's in dark side. As other 37. It's very plausible.Yoda was extremely powerful in the light and he defeated the dark. I think Dooku would go insane from dark side nexus. May the Force be with you :)
@mrbones909
@mrbones909 Жыл бұрын
Though it makes sense that Dooku would have hid Moraband, I think its more likely he did not, because it was too well known. In legends Anakin and Obi-Wan went there for a mission before the clone war, and in canon Yoda went there during it. Maybe he did delete it and it helped the Jedi not notice that other worlds were deleted. They could have thought it was a system glitch and quickly readded the world to their database after discovering it was missing, while the other systems went under the radar. I think its possible worlds such as Wayland and Byss, which would be used in Sidious' future plans, were deleted as well. Also I think Dromund had some dark side sages on it that Palpatine used later, so that also ties into his plans.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 Жыл бұрын
It was probably a good thing for Yoda that Dooku eliminated these planets form the archives or Sidious or maybe even Vader could've found Yoda.
@kris6038
@kris6038 3 ай бұрын
Starkiller never wanting to even ask questions about what Yoda is or where Yoda came from is one of the funniest things in those games. He's got a lot of "...no f*ck this" in that scene lol
@troesler81
@troesler81 Жыл бұрын
With Dooku's interest in sith relics it would make sense for him to squirrel away targets of interest for personal exploration while masking such travels as Hermitic voyages.
@robertagu5533
@robertagu5533 Жыл бұрын
Basically this thing Galen said means Yoda/Sideous are Bout the only Force Users left by his time that are about MORE powerful then him as he would only need to get a little bit MORE powerful an then he'd probably be able to tolerate it. An being able to theorize that Yoda IS indeed staggeringly powerful like THAT also confirms just how POWERFUL both Headmasters TRULY are at their Orders.
@iancowan3527
@iancowan3527 Жыл бұрын
Secret Dark Side force skill called "Plot Point!" Allows for ANY future McGuffin portal for Sith WTF Bomb!
@janwojciechowski8446
@janwojciechowski8446 Жыл бұрын
Okay, so how did Luke know where Dagobah was located? In Episode V Ben Kenobi only told him to go there, adding no extra information on the location or specifics about the planet (or Yoda himself)
@ronshine7902
@ronshine7902 Жыл бұрын
I believe he allowed the Force to guide him there.
@Hello-bi1pm
@Hello-bi1pm Жыл бұрын
R2-D2
@janwojciechowski8446
@janwojciechowski8446 Жыл бұрын
Well, maybe Ben's ghost guided him there. Artoo probably had galactic maps for only those systems that were officially available
@wyoboy01
@wyoboy01 Жыл бұрын
@@Hello-bi1pm That's true. Artoo knew where it was and he never had a memory wipe.
@samuelrobles3737
@samuelrobles3737 Жыл бұрын
I believe it was his ploy to obtain enough power to kill sidious if the need arose. By bathing in the dark side nexus he could obtain power that possibly surpassed sidious, or at least this was the logic he used. That's what I thinj
@reynoldsVincent
@reynoldsVincent Жыл бұрын
Looking at all the ideas in the video and comments, a lot mentioned just sounds mysterious or has insufficient reasoning. This best idea below is that he wanted to obscure gravity readings to prevent deducing the existence of Camino. The problem with that is that it didn't work, Yoda was still able to deduce a missing planet and where it was. But if no one had a particular planet in mind, wiping out several was probably a good idea just to make the mystery more expansive and harder to guess at. I like the simpler notion that Dooku took the opportunity to hide Sith planets, except doing this too brazenly would have tipped his hand, as Jedi would presumably be taught the major ones. But if he only picked obscure ones to begin with, he might expect the risk worthwhile, to do something for the Sith cause in general. As a sort of fringe benefit, he might have selected some planets useful as future hiding places for himself. But as many have said, Dooku is too urban a villain to live in a rain forest planet. So maybe he just didn't know that, or picked some planets at random, or based on the cave story Yoda told him as the videographer posits. All of which suggests he just didn't give the matter that much thought, he was just giving his trick extra mayhem to make it harder to guess about.
@Rubijoyal
@Rubijoyal Жыл бұрын
Likely to just hide the real targets of the systems that were erased. For what purpose I have no idea, but Yoda still knew where Dagobah was despite it being erased. It is interesting to theorize that only a light side individual can survive in a dark side nexus but not vise versa. Maybe these were other systems where the dark side is present would be areas where Jedi could hide were erased out of contingency or just to cover the real systems that were erased.
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta Жыл бұрын
He knew that both Jedi and Sith must survive in the long run. He was creating 'secret worlds' of Dark and Light when he deleted the Records. Despite serving Sidious, Dooku saw that extermination of either side wasn't the answer. By creating secret havens for Dark and Light practitioners, Dooku insured that both orders remained in balance.
@SidorovichGaming
@SidorovichGaming Жыл бұрын
I do believe his goals were complete opposite: he rather wanted that both Jedi and Sith perish, and a new, more balanced single order would be born.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 9 ай бұрын
@@SidorovichGaminghe probably did want to revive the Je’daii of old.
@nickpetka
@nickpetka 9 ай бұрын
4:41 that is such a hard pic of Yoda
@wslayerem6996
@wslayerem6996 Жыл бұрын
having a escape is always a good idea
@zanderscoff
@zanderscoff 7 ай бұрын
What series/movie were the first cartoon images of dooku from?
@thedoveston6781
@thedoveston6781 Жыл бұрын
Dooku also appears to have deleted the food from the Clone Trooper plates during the mess hall scene at 02:53.
@robertomoreno1220
@robertomoreno1220 Жыл бұрын
What the clip used in the beginning?
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