Why Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 Is Complex

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[@BrockJ329]

No one going to blame you for dropping Budokai after the Raditz fight as a kid

[@BlaQGhoste93]

Dawg that shit had me HOT

[@chrisrockett5897]

"DON'T PUSH YOUR LUCK!"

[@franco1926]

That fight alongside the fight against Kid Buu on Infinite World gave me PTSD.

[@BlaQGhoste93]

@@franco1926 you just unlocked a memory I tried to keep tucked away forever.

[@franco1926]

@@BlaQGhoste93 I AM SO SORRY.

[@Dr._Doppietta]

Glad to see B3 receiving some love and getting praise for its combo canceling system. It really was underapprecciated at the time.

[@chrisrockett5897]

YO, THE GOAT! I JUST GOT THROUGH BRINGING YOU UP!

[@Dr._Doppietta]

@@chrisrockett5897 thanks. A shoutout is always welcome. :)

[@chrisrockett5897]

@@Dr._Doppietta No prob.

[@charleschase7945]

Not underapprecciated, it was not known at the time, not until 2016 I think.

[@KingJadInfiniteHope]

@@charleschase7945 what wasn’t known the game or the combo system? the game sold millions…and there’s videos of people guard canceling in the 2000’s, on KZbin.

[@Miltypooh2001]

One of the things I love about budokai 3 is how the game rewards you with secret characters by just playing through dragon ball universe but with the ability to interact with characters in the middle of the story, it adds so much replayability

[@brotbrotsen1100]

I remember how getting GT characters were like a whole secret sidequest in this Mode. Not even that easy to find iirc.

[@mourossonero]

You did the Budokai community a solid with your video, well explained and good coverage of the game overall!

[@TheNadroj10]

Facts he needs to make a raging blast 2 video

[@titaniumcranium3755]

@@dan3974 more like BT2 or 3

[@titaniumcranium3755]

@@dan3974 lol you mad? I remember loving rb2 until I was able to somehow play the tenkaichis

[@freezasama5802]

Budokai 3 managed to create a game like Fighterz but actually 3D and at the same time managed to capture the essence of dragon ball by adding interactions cutscenes that are accurate to the series, little things like if you use Potara your enemy can guess your input and crush your potara preventing you from fusing or all the fusions involving the dances have a limit plus the speed and smoothness of the game is what makes it amazing yes dragon rush has its issues but you can evade it to prevent it from occurring overall this game needs to be appreciated more as it’s an amazing experience and something every db fan has to play if they want a game that captures both fighting and db essence

[@CoreySpitz]

They just gotta bring back beam struggles

[@wolfman596]

nah infinite world is better. it just came out at a bad time cause no one knows about it. DBZ B3 did not age well because of dragon rush its honestly ruins any competitive aspect of the game. infinite world had the complexities of b3 without dragon rush

[@CoreySpitz]

@@wolfman596 but infinite world removed tournaments and beam struggles and that took away from it. Plus Dragon Rush’ gave opportunities to add other finishers for each character but BD3 slacked off not giving each character a specific finisher. Rather settling for the ki blasts or kick. Infinite World was better but removing tournaments and beam struggles for me took away from it like a bad ending to a good movie.

[@diamonshade7484]

Now imagine if burst limit was a completed game we would be living in a different era

[@theflashfan3234]

Lmao that's an insult to FighterZ

[@hypeboy95]

That “ over the hedge “ game was fire 🔥🔥 especially the co-op

[@xDevenchi]

The go cart bumper cars mini game was THE mode to play

[@diegodamohill]

OH, MY FRIEND. I'm so happy you took your time to talk about the hidden depth of this game. I have some old videos (10+years) of when I used to play this on high school, I kid you not, I spend thousands of hours in this game, literally. So I wanted to contribute a little to show how much this game has. The budokai franchise had so much potential, unfortunately, every entry in the series had at least one or two flaws that made the game not viable for serious competitive scene, but the community often had unofficial rules or consensus about the games balance, like always use the breakthrough capsule, always use 4 health bars or the rounds get too long and always use maps with walls, won't get into much detail here, after all its just a youtube comment, so I'll refrain from talking about Infinite World and shin budokai from the psp (almost the most balanced, almost). Now, the main thing about playing this game against a oponent with equal skill at high level are three things: Counter Teleports, juggle combos and transformations. And these three things are the reason Cell is broken AF, I'm not exagerating, and I know to some this seems unlikelly, but trust me, once you get deep enough into this game, you will know why. (Goku is the second one, but you will know why in a bit) So, the basic gameplan: no matter the character, at high level, you want the oponent to block first. because of the cancel system, anyone has an infinite block string. Now you might say "but you can just teleport out of it!". And Yes, you can teleport, but that doesn't garantee you are out of it, because teleporting can be a huge gamble, because of the Counter Teleport system, and that's the MAIN mechanic of this game, at high level at least. How it works? Well, you need a character with a fast jab, or "P" as it is called in this game. The thing is, some characters have a jab so fast, that if they try to jab the oponent and they teleport, you can just jab the oponent again as he appears behind you before they can even strike you. That applies to the default teleport where the character kicks the other. But you can always hold the guard button to cancel the kick and block the counter teleporter, but then, you are blocking again, and with 3 less ki bars. That's why, you never, NEVER teleport a cancelable move, because the attacker instantly turns around if you do so and it's even easier to punish the teleport then. The only thing you can do, is hold teleport and when you do try to jab the oponent faster than he does you. Because turning around during a teleport can be a bit finicky depending on the position of the characters on the stage and the characters themselves, you can basically steal turns by teleporting, jabing the oponent before they jab you and then starting your own combo. Because some characters have a jab with a recovery so low they can just press "P" once, wait a few frames and then start a new chain before the hitstun ends. There's more to it, like baiting jabs using armored moves, and then canceling them to punish, or dodging a jab instead of blocking to punish with your own and you can start to see how there's a whole game within the game just with this teleport mechanic alone. Cell has the fastest jab in the game, he can literally counter your teleport by just timming P... P... P... P... and if you block or dodge the first, you are stuck in the teleport minigame with him (probably, Super Buu might have an equal jab but super buu is overall garbage even with it, didn't have frame-data tools back in 2004 and its been a few years since I touched it, unfortunately) Then comes the transformations: They are basically "my turn" buttons, unless both players press it at the same time. You break the oponents guard, and then they have to choose between taking the combo or playing the teleport game. Cell has 3 transformations, and most importantly, he (alongside goku) has a 3 bar transformation, which means that at the start of the round, he already has a "my turn" button available. Juggle combos: So if you want to cause max dmg to your oponent, you need to learn juggle combos, because the game boils down to making your oponent lose the teleport game and getting hit, then you have until he recovers 3 health bars to finish your combo or to try to bait a teleporter then. So characters like Goku are high tier because you can do stupid damage with dragon fist (

[@HeadmasterAutobot]

Any obscure FG deep dive is just [chef's kiss], thanks for this

[@kjo2130]

I know this game is celebrated in the DB community and even some gaming communities but I still don't think it is truly appreciated enough. This game was soooooo far ahead of its time. Like you said, there's so much depth here.

[@tigerfestivals5137]

Nah this was pretty interesting to read so thank you lol

[@DICEBOY22]

If Shin Budokai / Burst Limit kept going it would have been as great as FighterZ to be truthful.

[@diegodamohill]

@@DICEBOY22 Shin Budokai 2 would be the greatest in the series in terms of balance if it wasn't for the awfully armored normals, that completely broke the game and made cell even more broken in an already broken game. If they only took that away, shin Budokai 2 would be the goat

[@Dr._Doppietta]

Btw, Infinite World *isn't* Budokai 4. It's barely B3.5 We are, instead, making Budokai 4 as a side project, so you might wanna check it out. ;)

[@smailchali5102]

the man himself here dang

[@gamingcantina9157]

Ayeeeee

[@titaniumcranium3755]

Please do. Infinite world is too confusing and too difficult while budokai 3 is ruined by dragon rush

[@Ddken93]

I don't understand. Is it a mod you're doing?

[@smailchali5102]

@@Ddken93 check out his channel. he's essentially just the playtester while someone else is the one making the mod

[@areallybigdwarf4560]

this game was so sick i still remember being challenged by a friend of one my friends, lil bro said he never lost no beam struggle in his life 💀he tasted the garlic from bejitas gun YKWIS

[@BrolyChan]

If I'm remembering correctly, Cell is considered top tier in this game, Specifically perfect and super perfect Cell. 3 transformations, long ass limbs, good super attacks and a lot of his combos can be canceled, guy was nuts.

[@Dr._Doppietta]

He really is, to this very day, the Top Tier n1 in B3 PvP competitive.

[@zhaoyun255]

Naw, that would be Kid Buu and Omega Shenron. Their high starting Baseline (6 for Kid Buu and 7 for Omega Shenron) and their combo damage with good ass Defense thanks to their Ki baseline being BETTER than anyone in the cast except for the fusion but you NEED to get meters before you could even attempt fusion. Equip Yakkon on both of them could literally invalidate the rest of the cast with transformation.

[@zhaoyun255]

@@Dr._Doppietta Naw, Kid Buu and Omega Shenron with Yakkon capsule say hi.

[@diegodamohill]

@@zhaoyun255 Kid buu is straight up GARBAGE at high level, since he has a slow jab

[@zhaoyun255]

@@diegodamohill Naw, not even close, Yakkon Capsule prevent ANY attempt to transform or Hyper Mode since it reduced the Ki Baseline to 0. Remember that meters are KING in this game. Kid Buu could EASILY vanish or counter vanish without much issues because he will always one up you with counter vanish since he always has more Meters. Permanent transform characters like Broly or Cell are fucked when Yakkon Capsule applied. Kid Buu is straight up second best after Omega Shenron.

[@Heazytoohot]

"This isnt mix this is pure guess" gave me flashbacks of MKX LMAO

[@LotusAsakura]

Fire video. First time seeing your channel but this was great. Imma peep some of your other content.

[@DayNineteen369]

ayo Lotus we see you.

[@sinekonata]

That's the only game I played which made feel untouchable. Had the game been not so underappreciated, I might have joined a local tournament to find someone who would kick my ass.

[@The-Snake-Gear]

Budokai series was the shiznits! I remember having my PS2 and it came with 2 games, Metal Gear Solid 2 and Budokai 2. Budokai series was heavily underrated and deserves way more love than it should.

[@KingJadInfiniteHope]

4:57 it’s not pure guessing, if you let the opponent pick each button first, you have a significantly higher chance of succeeding. that and also by playing the game slot (and i mean a LOT) you can start seeing patterns that they do and you can get it right 100% of the time. hyper mode isn’t broken, just teleport behind them. make sure you have enough ki. “heavy” attacks will also knock them down. for anybody who’s new to this game. Goku, Yamcha (yes, yamcha), and cell are some of the easiest characters to combo cancel with, Goku being the easiest. to the creator of the video, thank you for showcasing my favorite game of all time, loved it since it’s release.

[@lordpookie]

budokai 3 still my favorite dbz game

[@MerlautJones]

My favorite too. I was glad they remastered Budokai 1 & 3 for PS3 & 360. Burst Limit wasn't it!

[@RandomGuy93543]

@@MerlautJones sadly they changed music in the ps3/xbox360 version,ps2 is still definitive version

[@Dante199006]

Budokai 3 is my all time favorite Dragon Ball game then Tenkaichi 3 followed by Infinite world. But man Budokai 3 is just something special to me.

[@irunonwindows]

i like your immediate honesty in the beginning of the video. i grew up playing this game during my middle school years. my friend lend it to me and i was hooked

[@MxnzzOfficial]

The tenkaichi 4 announcement got me in my practice arc for 4.

[@AverageBananas12]

Smackdown Vs Raw was the SHIT!

[@albertleslieurena2766]

I will be real with everyone but this game is what made me fall in love with DBZ... I even use to do practice mode and check out every transformation power up scaling. I loved how ss4 would jump to 140s meanwhile Browly had a similar power scale when he transform to legendary saying. Its the closest to the realist power scaling based what we kept seeing from DBZ movies

[@goldengoldy0197]

This, Super Dragon Ball Z and FighterZ are the trifecta of REAL Dragon Ball fighting games. Each of them has something that differentiates from each other but they are all super legit in a competitive setting.

[@legendaryrababa]

i played this game so much, its not just best dbz game, but one of the best fighting game ever. and this was first dbz game i ever bought. what a W

[@zhaoyun255]

There is one thing is important was that Transformation will ALWAYS BE YOUR FIRST PRIORITY!!! You see, this game Ki Meter revolutionized Budokai forever. In order to do all of the crazy dodge and Teleport stuffs? You need meters. However, as you can see, there is a "Baseline" system that determined how many Ki bars you will start with or will never get drained over time. Take Goku for example, his baseline was 3 but if he keeps transforming to SSJ4, he will have 6 baselines Ki. This put him as equal as Kid Buu 6 Baseline. More meters mean you can counter Teleport (basically a breakaway combo breaker) when you are taking damage more than other characters and YOU WILL WIN THE EXCHANGE IF THEY TRIED TO RETALIATE WITH THEIR OWN TELEPORT. Not to mention you charge ki faster with the Baseline Bars. That's why Kid Buu (6 bars) and Omega Shenron (all maxed out Baseline) was considered top tier because most of the time against the player, your damage was so miniscule against them thanks to their meters always above yours. You equip Yakkon capsule and watch their miserable life trying NOT to transform because the Yakkon capsule WILL make your Ki gauge Baselineless for ALL 7 Ki GAUGES if you dare to transform.

[@TrollCapAmerica]

Kid Buu was trash Shenron had an amazing rushdown and the High damage as well as the baseline. Top tier was Piccalo Dabura Cell and Omega Shenron

[@edwardv4546]

Def my favorite DBZ game. Glad its still standing the test of time.

[@MidTierMistake]

I had this game but I forgot where it is so I just play Shin Budokai 2 on the PSP

[@SuperMasterJefe]

I didnt get into budokai until after it was done and when bt1 and shin budokai came out. I had alot to learn back then. Also u a G for playing SvR 06

[@nzephier]

My fondest memory of this game was when me and a friend were going back and forth on strikes, blocking, teleporting, then we both backed up at the exact same time and started charging up energy. Just like the show. Was insane

[@ryans1892]

Gets even deeper with Infinite World and Shin Budokai.

[@hentailmao]

eating while watching kaizen is heaven ngl.

[@Beta_Kiryu]

What you eating?

[@hentailmao]

@@Beta_Kiryu takoyaki.

[@dillon3213]

Im eating cheetos

[@titaniumcranium3755]

@@hentailmao I've always wanted to try takoyaki

[@Robo311Star]

Man oh man. It sucks being old now but it was dope being young back in the Didday

[@lilblanco7318]

Bruh cars HIT back in the day what a banger

[@TheHomieNess]

Thank you for making this video I was a kid when this game came out and would watch tournaments of this game at my local game store (known as game crazy back then). I never understood how the guessing button thing worked but now I do. This game even tho I didn’t understand it is the best DBZ fighting game hands down

[@ReanXAlisa]

I only ever played Budokai 1 and Tenkaichi 3 and got my ass kicked by Frieza till I practiced and whooped his ass and only a decade later did I realize I was playing a fighting game, these went so crazy I can't believe these went even harder with every new entry. Also Over The Hedge went CRAZY, highkey one of the best movie games because the movie was only the first four levels and they made the rest of the game this sick new plot holy shit I spent days playing co-op with my sister. I lowkey can't believe they haven't been pumping out sick ass 3D games for Dragon Ball this past decade.

[@holysigmarizz]

good to see people like budokai and not just budokai tenkaichi

[@tgkthebawse]

Infinite World is fire, it's better than Budokai 3 in every way arguably. No BS Dragon Rush, ki enhanced side stepping, rush mode now has more practical features like armor, and even better guardbreak options.

[@chupchupman5859]

1:51 Neil just went Mashiba mode

[@francesfuego6950]

Makes me feel old when i vivdly have nostalgia about budokai 2 i remember budokai 3 being so different at the time.

[@goofywill90]

I'll never forget the first time I played this after budokai 1 in tournament. I surrounded my opponent at the edge of the ring and was just about to knock them out then I learned this was different real quick.

[@NoahsArk7]

This game with a modern reskin and updated roster would be straight fire

[@ghoulgirl99]

I used to play this one throughout middle and highschool. It was a personal favorite

[@TheSBroutine]

was just telling my buddy's this game could be super competitive with all the different interactions

[@AenimaToolhead]

Dragon Rush button guessing is just Marduk's grabs from Tekken

[@PokeRomeGamez]

“what the game Got to make it Complex “ off the rip “ SIDESTEPPING “ 😂

[@STKHub]

Kaizen, you always make fire reviews.

[@Hasake7]

Fellow lookism fan?

[@idkchocolate]

My favorite dragon ball game

[@thekennyeslickshow]

I stand on the hill that Budokai 3 was/still is the greatest DBZ game. They need to bring this game forward on PS+

[@Gogetassj4666]

This is a very well made video ma kaizen, I got here from discord

[@bradvp4339]

Budokai 3 was amazing, it made me enjoy dbz for what it was and is.

[@NameOMatic9000]

I don't know how anyone could possibly hate on this game. Almost everything about this game is amazing.

[@cyclonmaster]

The best fight game of all times

[@KennyFrierson]

Dragon Rush feels like the Garlic Jr Arc

[@AnEpicFatalityArchives]

Imma be honest as someone that played all the budokai games and not infinite world, the game does get repetitive. Im surprised people are giving it this amount of praise. Budokai was a good series no doubt, and still a staple of my childhood, but unless you play with friends it doesnt really last long for me imo

[@airborne111]

mad respect for playing Cars bro

[@TheMich4S]

My disappointment when as a child i bought this game instead of budokai tenkaichi 3 by mistake ;_;

[@john-tobeymaguirecena]

Your Budokai 3 & classic Tekken videos earned likes & a subscriber 🫡 hearing you played SmackDown Vs Raw & seeing that you’re WWE2K player is a PLUS!! Speaking of, I bought 2K23 & I haven’t bought a WWE2K since 2K19. I will say that this new grapple reversal mechanic/guessing game reminds me a lot of the Budokai Dragon Rush. I find myself missing 2K19’s old ways of reversing, but other than that I love the game. Mega Cena fan so it’s amazing to play the showcase

[@Mali2nicee]

i miss these games so much😭

[@SmellyBodega]

GROWING UP WITH THIS GAME I WAS ALWAYS DISAPOINTED WITH THE COMBAT IN EVERY GAME AFTER

[@parabellumFC]

B3 and tenkaici was so rad. Great to see it get some love

[@IgnantRizzyOld]

I’ve been watching and playing a lot of this game lately. Trying to get those back dash cancels down is no joke! Love this content fam keep it up!

[@thomasskywalker8893]

You can also double tap backwards and press up or down to take off or land!

[@OvahZealous]

My second favorite game of all time. Love this game

[@haloskater24]

You should really check out Infinite Word or Burst Limit, the combat is way deeper but We def need a Budokai remake after the new Tenkaichi one.

[@blackholephoenix4207]

love these videos man💕🔥

[@infern1491]

I always liked how it was free world and you can find dragon balls

[@PotheadChronicles]

My brother and i play this game all the time ...we usually select world tournament and then choose random players ... The ring out possibilty makes it super fun 😂😂😂

[@shyecity916]

These games are OD. The best in the Budokai lineup are 3, Shin Budokai 2, Infinite World n Burst Limit. 1 and 2 are good, too. But those games up there are peak of the Budokai style games. Between those four, you can't go wrong.

[@dontestewart5176]

This man is outta pocket cuz I loved the whole Dragonrush concept

[@israelprice9081]

I like Blocking in fighting games

[@danegerdane]

Another banger video bro, these are so entertaining pls keep uploading these

[@dhortonofficial165]

This game still looks great it’s crazy

[@Mitsu852]

One technical mechanic doesn't make the game complex. It wasn't that much of a big deal.

[@TrollCapAmerica]

Proer canceling allows an actual mix-up game while also allowing longer extended combos but go ahead and lie about it if that makes you happy

[@Bosfhyfee]

crazy your just knowing learning this i was a sweat on this as a kid

[@quinndepatten4442]

The thing I like about dragon rush is that it's a nice break from the game. There are still decisions, but they aren't as fast as the regular gameplay.

[@yungblade7]

This game should be released on next gen consoles with multiplayer, why they haven't is beyond me

[@hafizhaekal1352]

Personally I'm more of an Infinite World kinda guy, Budokai 3 dragon rush is just annoying. Forcing you to play a slow button guessing game for half a minute is not fun, and you are handicapping yourself if you don't use it cause it can land big damage.

[@Aphectz]

way ahead of its time the one of the best games ever made.

[@CodenameCMB]

I was just here to see you play Budokai. Not to be told look how you played the game when you were 10 is wrong. Damn this really hurts to hear but glad that a game from 2004 has more complexities than I gave it credit for.

[@juurk2.020]

Don’t ignore the fact that instead of pressing all the face buttons at once you can also just press r2

[@lordnoah_420_cisneros9]

If you pressed guard and down, down, you could taunt and it takes away a ki bar from the enemy. Really good if they are all powered up

[@Justannye]

Smackdown vs raw was fire tho

[@Miggnuggets]

If players knew more about combo cancels they will finally understand that Budokai is the greatest DBZ game. It’s not even a debate

[@KneeKrusher]

Krillin and kid gohan were on crack, especially in the first game.😭

[@ROlymps193]

it's fast paced game make yourself hold your breath sometimes to defeat your enemy

[@McKyle9]

Best dbz game they ever made

[@eyalamit5120]

As a kid I handled it fine. I think the gsme has a relatively low skill FLOOR but a ridiculous high ceiling.

[@jellalshadow2318]

B3 and bt3 are my favorite dbz games of all time

[@apexprimessjpowe3734]

I remember running through DU grinding for breakthroughs and the black card. Spent the rest of my time in the red ribbon army base. Good times

[@revthadon8868]

Tell they ass king, Underlordtico taught me all I know back in the day lmao

[@movieman-sp2lh]

It’s 2023 and people still never noticed you can do this in the Budokai Series. That’s why I personally enjoyed it more than the Tenkaichi Series.

[@photondebuger45]

The dragon rush was to yes tire your opponent you can do that too with just punches but dragon rush does it immediately. So what that is for is for the ultimate moves, like the spirit bomb, hell zone grenade, spirit sword, soul punisher, father son Kamehameha wave stuff like that where the button time prompt comes up to dodge it changes that so it's harder to dodge so they will take the max damage. When it's blue for them it goes the slowest yellow it's a bit faster and red is the absolute fastest. It's an interesting mechanic to the game but yeah you can do that. Also on top of that you can still do massive damage like if you do the whole dragon fist from a combo and launch them into the dragon rush you can go in with like 1000 damage just starting it and when you finish and have the warp Kamehameha which you will because breakthrough. You easily do like 3000 plus damage and take three life bars. If they have only three that's pretty much instant death. I remember one time I did the 100x big bang Kamehameha on shenron in like the story mode I think he blocked it tho but I saw the number right I assure you it said over 6000 damage........ there's only 7000 health in the game if tired him out first then did that that was instant death with an ultimate attack. Budokai 3 is INCREDIBLE HARD AND COMPLEX BRO ITS NUTS.

[@taythrty]

this the reason why budokai was the best. combat was just to top tier

[@OutrageousPenalty]

all we need isn't a tekaishi budokai 3 game reboot in 2024 with call of duty view, we just need a budokai 3 reboot on ps5

[@wjbushjr]

Bro you talking about the good shit

[@yoMoonman]

when that Tenkaichi 4 drops though

[@Andretti2Tone]

I never seen that front cover to Budokai 3. Mines back in the day was a black background with Ssj1 Goku doing a dragon fist

[@rej3ktstudios986]

Interesting video. As someone who played a bunch of 3 in my youth I was doing a lot of these techniques subconsciously. I think what tips Budokai 3 over the line from balanced fighting game to fun dragon ball punching times is Dragon Rush and the Capsule System. There’s too much outside interference from skill for it ever to be compared favourably to Street Fighter or Fighterz etc. Good video regardless friend.

[@japaneseambassador3562]

Bro, Budokai 3 was so clean. I used to be able to absolutely cook fellas as a kid, I knew all of the sauce, man.

[@shaghilathar3588]

Youve finally discovered the truly goated fighting game seires

[@waranghira]

I KNEW THIS! Why I have my own semi-infinite combos