Why everybody hates: Fiona Gallagher

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00:00 Intro & answering FAQ
1:51 For the Gilmore fans
2:25 Theme song/Disclaimer
4:22 Fiona and Liam
6:32 Fiona vs Lip
8:06 Fiona and her boyfriend’s brother
8:51 Fiona and JimmySteve
9:31 Performative activism?
11:50 Fiona and Gus
12:21 What Fiona needs
12:50 Fiona and Sean
13:01 Debbie’s teen pregnancy
14:34 Shameless post-Fiona
15:36 Fiona never got to live for herself
16:23 Is fiona cancelled?
16:56 THANK YOU GUYS
17:30 outro

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@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
If you love Fiona, go to 1:23 that’s my message for you. Before you comment make sure to watch the disclaimer bc I answer alot of questions there.
@Lavarias.kayla03
@Lavarias.kayla03 5 ай бұрын
People hate Fiona more than they hate frank and Monica but fail to realize that Fiona has been taking care of her siblings and PARENTS since 9 years old and had to drop out at 16 and only STARTED to TRY and prioritize herself until she was about 23. Her DEVELOPMENTAL years were stolen from her. And she had to make an adjustment very late in her life. No therapy, no help, no moral training. She had to do it all on our her own and turned out better than what she could have ended being. Yet she’s constantly insulted, talked down on, called a failure, use her pain and trauma against her, and never truly given credit, and never truly understood. I’m not excusing her mistakes but I find it really interesting that so many people hate her…
@BlackXSunlight
@BlackXSunlight 5 ай бұрын
I'm always so mad at Fiona until Lip says something to her, then I'm a diehard Fiona-defender because I can't stand Lip's fresh-out-of-AA holier-than-thou attitude that he seems to save just for Fiona.
@saraschu2735
@saraschu2735 Жыл бұрын
Fiona needs SO MUCH therapy. I always thought that Debbie's pregnancy triggered that flee response, reminding her of raising her siblings everytime that Frank and Monica had another kid. She pushed all her feelings down for decades and at a certain point you can't do that anymore so that's how I think of the actress' departure
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 Жыл бұрын
I shipped fiona and stability.
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
Yeah me too 💯
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte Жыл бұрын
she could’ve had that with mike but we all know how that ended
@OFFICIALJJSMP
@OFFICIALJJSMP 8 ай бұрын
@@Jessica.Shawnte fr
@xxplasticxx4893
@xxplasticxx4893 Жыл бұрын
can’t expect a mother from someone who never asked to be one
@accidentaloasis4839
@accidentaloasis4839 Жыл бұрын
fax
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte Жыл бұрын
but she did ask tho.. she went to court, and broke laws to get those kids back that’s asking and she was granted her wish
@xxplasticxx4893
@xxplasticxx4893 Жыл бұрын
@@Jessica.Shawnte so they wouldn’t be raised by the system….to keep her family together, like at the end of day she’s just their sibling
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte Жыл бұрын
@@xxplasticxx4893 Ian and Lip were basically grown… Lip was almost done with HS.. Carl and liam were placed with a really good family that actually cared to teach him right from wrong.. they gave him a tutor which he needed badly.. fed them healthy,good hygiene etc
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte Жыл бұрын
@@xxplasticxx4893 at the end of the day she chose not to just be a sibling when got custody of her siblings
@michaelceraweed
@michaelceraweed Жыл бұрын
I think the big difference between Lip and Fiona (at least in the beginning of the show) is that Lip saw a future for himself while Fi didnt. she imagined herself taking care of those kids FOREVER, while Lip was aware of the fact that one day he would be onto better things- or at least thats what he wanted. Fi sees herself as the kids mom, which means shes tethered to them forever. she felt like she would ALWAYS be responsible for them no matter what, she had no life or amibitions outside of the kids. Lip didnt imagine himself as the kids' dad, he never imagined himself there forever. he wanted out, Fiona didnt
@tiyabear
@tiyabear 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Fiona was good at meeting physical needs and understood things like making doctors appointments and signing permission slips. The cracks definitely show with regard to emotional stuff. Her coping skills are non-existent. But no one ever taught her to be a functional human being, of course she didn’t really know how to parent. It’s really a shame that Gallaghers didn’t do therapy.
@mghrt
@mghrt Жыл бұрын
i KNOOOOW i should hate fiona because all of the horrible things she did but i really couldnt bring myself to hate her because i sympathized for her character too much i think especially since i have an older sister who raised me like how she raised all her siblings but she took care of them when frank and monica werent there (ignoring the fact that she almost killed liam) she had that coke because she never got to party during her teens and early 20s because she was stuck raising everyone else its not an excuse but i get why she made all the wrong decisions its hard to put her on trial and negate everyting else she has done for them as for the men in her life i let her have her fun because at the end of the day she got bills paid and food on the table she may have been sleeping with her heroin addict boss but she got everyone else jobs and free food from that diner !!
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I truly sympathize with fiona because at a young age she was forced to take care of her siblings due to Monica and frank being too messed up and frank and Monica's families refused to help
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
I totally understand why fiona spiraled when she did because she was forced to be the responsible one for so long I was glad that she decided to move and live for herself plus it was time for her to leave because her siblings didn't need her anymore
@GoddesssofMind
@GoddesssofMind Жыл бұрын
Fiona never stood a chance. She tried like hell tho. Apples and trees .. apples and trees
@rileyjay7283
@rileyjay7283 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if anyone notices this but Fiona never smokes her OWN cigarettes. She always bummed one off someone else or would find a pack while cleaning or something and take one. As a former pack a day smoker that irked me.
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
💀💀💀💀 it bothered my boyfriend that she waited so long to ash
@operaanimelover369
@operaanimelover369 Жыл бұрын
Despite my sporadic viewing of Shameless USA, I never hated Fiona. She had to suffer to the nth degree and be a third parent to her younger siblings. In fact, it was almost like she has become their mother when her own father Frank was too wasted to care, and her mother felt completely helpless. Yes, she did some deeds that were rather uncalled for, but she is still somebody I can root for, relate to, and understand with all my heart, mind, and soul because she did not ask to be a third parent let alone grow up too fast in her young adult years. Therefore, despite the things she has done, it is good to know that characters like Fiona are still human beings with souls and minds of their own, and not total Mary-Sues, which makes her all the more relatable, understandable, and lovable because of her flaws and the situations she has found herself in, especially within the confines of those polarising family dynamics.
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I never really hate her even though she made some horrible mistakes I still rooted for her and was glad that she left
@rebecaromero2957
@rebecaromero2957 Жыл бұрын
No bc so many ppl say they loved white boy carl but like- how can you like someone who’s so 😐
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
Yeah I didn’t even see why that storyline was necessary or how it pushed the story forward. He didn’t have to “act black” (and i put heavy quotation marks on that bc all black personalities are different) to do anything
@kylegallo6615
@kylegallo6615 Жыл бұрын
Defend her? No. But everything always made sense
@iAmSVD
@iAmSVD Жыл бұрын
i never hated fiona. She tried so hard and so long for her family. Plus people love to hate women too soooo
@NisaFashionista
@NisaFashionista Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a fact!
@kiranolan7104
@kiranolan7104 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason people hate female characters is because the writing for women used to be so bad. I think the writing for women has improved and I never hated Fiona. Did she make mistakes? Yeah, sure. But I always admired her because she was strong, feisty, and owned up to her mistakes. Also she loved her family to death and there's nothing she wouldn't do for them.
@chaosspy6723
@chaosspy6723 Жыл бұрын
I never understood why she didn't give up guardianship once she didn't want to take care of them anymore instead of just abandoning Liam. She could've literally asked Kev and V to take custody of him and then left.
@camilovesyou13
@camilovesyou13 Жыл бұрын
I would love one of these solely on Lip. I heard from other fans they were disappointed in his character but I think he made progress in other ways. Also I loved seeing the toxic relationship between him and Karen lol. Just they are my favorite toxic couple to watch. I have problems I know lol
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
I’d love to do a video on Lip and Karen too!
@chiaralinnea4335
@chiaralinnea4335 Жыл бұрын
omg yes. It was such a dumpster fire but in the most fascinating way
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
God I hate lip with karen they were so toxic
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte Жыл бұрын
lip was tired of fiona shit
@teagan1636
@teagan1636 Жыл бұрын
The problem with putting all the blame on Fiona is how many other people that were there and said nothing. Kevin and V were there, all the other siblings Including lip who was I think 18?, and I think a couple other adults were there. Like it was her responsibility to clean up but she was letting loose And as an adult, you should always be protecting and thinking about children even if it’s not ur kids
@teagan1636
@teagan1636 Жыл бұрын
Idk if this makes any sense, I’m welcome to criticism 😅
@chaosspy6723
@chaosspy6723 Жыл бұрын
It's because she's the guardian and she left the coke out low enough for Liam to get it.
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte Жыл бұрын
UGHHHH NOOOO 1)Kev & V are not liam’s guardian nor family 2) there was no other adults there 3)Lip & Debbie wasn’t there yet they was out finding ian debbie found him when they got back
@Ladybug0915
@Ladybug0915 Жыл бұрын
Just watched this a month after it was posted, and I want more on Shameless! I came for the GG content but you have a great channel.
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 Жыл бұрын
I love and hate shameless and I'm so happy you're talking about on of my favourite complex character on the show and pretty much the matriarch of the Gallagher clan.
@bbell2172
@bbell2172 Жыл бұрын
I honestly could not stand Fiona. She acted like she was so much better than everyone else and liked to throw in their face all the time how much she did for them but wouldn't acknowledge how much the other siblings contributed to eachother and their household. Debbie was taking Liam to school everyday and running a daycare in freaking elementary school! Yes she had it hard but they all did and they never stopped having eachothers backs. Can't get behind her leaving and missing Ian's wedding and Lips son's birth. They were all eachother had their entire lives so for her to leave is so foul to me. Once she decided to "put herself first" she became so hearless. How are you gonna charge your struggling sister for food at a party that was already sitting out on the damn counter??? Like really....
@YRTTSSFS
@YRTTSSFS 7 ай бұрын
well they were ungrateful a good percentage of the time
@bbell2172
@bbell2172 7 ай бұрын
@@YRTTSSFS so was she lol did she ever acknowledge her other siblings and how much they contributed or did she always act like she did everything herself?
@YRTTSSFS
@YRTTSSFS 7 ай бұрын
@@bbell2172 oh she definitely did act that way i’m not saying she didn’t, fiona’s the kind of character that isn’t (originally) asked to do something, does it, then gets upset when no one realizes what she went through to do said thing. everyone’s flawed on the show i just added that piece to the situation
@eyelid_4600
@eyelid_4600 Жыл бұрын
I really only watch that video because i love your channel. But as a first immigrant daughter i related so much. Really they're is nothing anybody can say that could make hate her. She is me.
@celestialisette
@celestialisette Жыл бұрын
your theme song has been so stuck in my head
@kevincorona3683
@kevincorona3683 9 ай бұрын
What would annoy me was her saying she raised 5 kids. After she became their guardian just completely changed and was anything but a parent. She was threatening to kick everyone out if they didn't have their share of rent. Even Carl who had saved them all, especially Fiona as head of the house, by buying the home so she should actually be paying him back tbh. Where I'm at in the show she barely interacts with Liam, and he seems to prefer hanging out with Frank over her.
@bubbajon9573
@bubbajon9573 Жыл бұрын
loved the video, keep it up im watching :]
@joestrada6929
@joestrada6929 Жыл бұрын
You should do Debbie Gallagher
@kevinstahr1
@kevinstahr1 Жыл бұрын
Fiona was her own worst enemy 🤷🏽‍♂️
@charlyalvarado8762
@charlyalvarado8762 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Carl was already sociopathic being a lil racist isn't that far for him I mean look at frank
@jackkirker9535
@jackkirker9535 Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Rachel Berry from Glee.
@gonjeshk97
@gonjeshk97 Жыл бұрын
The intro🥺
@Jessica.Shawnte
@Jessica.Shawnte Жыл бұрын
ok here’s what everybody missed with fiona how she always was a shitty person.. her friendship with jasmine.. all she needed was a place to stay for a few days fiona said no jasmine did a lot of fiona she gave her free clothes, connects for a job, she stayed with fiona when lip & ian got arrested
@Morganbeee
@Morganbeee Жыл бұрын
I love your channal! Just followed 😊
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DanaEigsti
@DanaEigsti 28 күн бұрын
So excited to see you doing shameless even though this is old. I love shameless and Gilmore girls.
@LittleRedTeaCake
@LittleRedTeaCake Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching the show, years ago because I was just really over how no one really learned. No one really grew in a good way. I mean, from what I remember and my memories on the show are hazy at best (I only really remember season 1 and god, what was the foster kids name, Esther? And she had a baby. I remember that) I was always annoyed at Fiona for, I guess making it worse it always seemed like. It kind of falls into the sitcom issue, which is one of the reasons I don't really like sitcoms anymore, is the lack of character development and a reset to the norm either every episode or at the beginning of every season. Now, I am an only child, I have never had to care for all of my kids while my parents fucked off while one of them dangled their affection in front of me, but she could never admit she was wrong and I cannot stand that. Especially with the cocaine. In that sense, it reminds me too much of my own mom with her alcoholism and its just like, no thank you. Funnily enough, my mom is the reason I started watching the show, because after the end of Sex in the City, we needed another age inappropriate show to watch together. LOL
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
YES EXACTLY. For me (from what I can remember bc I haven’t sat and watched the whole thing in like a year) I also felt like I never saw growth from her character. It’s like they’d give us small glimpses but never anything permanent, except for when she left. I forgot about Esther! This show had sooo many moments it got hard to keep track
@crab2195
@crab2195 Жыл бұрын
it got so tiring seeing the worst possible things happen to these characters. it got to the point where it seemed like there was no meaning behind their pain or misfortune. i watched until season 8 (i think) and stopped after that. it was one thing after another and i think the writers were grabbing at straws trying to keep the show going.
@clippychan530
@clippychan530 2 ай бұрын
The Fiona-Gus arc pissed me off so much but not because they got married so fast. I absolutely hated how she got married to Gus and practically MOVED OUT even though Debbie, Carl and Liam were still living there. No one was paying the bills, no one was doing grocery shopping, no one even knew she got married until it was almost over. She missed a lot of the signs from Ian and passed child bearing responsibility onto Lip and Sammi leading to a lot of resentment. She missed a lot during these long absences and was constantly playing catch-up with her siblings. This basically killed any relationship she had left with her youngest siblings after the cocaine thing. I can't even be mad at her, she was forced to drop out of school at 16 and take care of 5 kids. Her relationships were usually the most normal part of her life so it isn't shocking she would constantly go from guy to guy in search of that comfort. Her marriage to Gus was a last resort effort for something stable, in her mind if she got married he couldn't leave like how Jimmy left her. I can't blame Fiona for putting herself first, I was rooting for her through the whole series but her downward spiral was painful to watch. It brought a realism to the show, I wouldn't be able to handle the pressure either.
@luffyjoyboy5022
@luffyjoyboy5022 Жыл бұрын
Just started watching Shameless, I'm currently on season 6. Seasons 1-5 I absolutely hated Frank but now I absolutely can't stand Fiona. She meets really good guys and screws them over. I also hate that she constantly forgives Frank, plus there was the whole Liam incident ugh 😩. Really can't believe she did Gus like that, I hate her.
@melagurlthe1andonly1
@melagurlthe1andonly1 Жыл бұрын
You had me as a subscriber when you said you a cancer! Go off sis❤♋️
@itscherylplayz8925
@itscherylplayz8925 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on why Liam Gallagher is the most underrated?
@isabelle7807
@isabelle7807 Жыл бұрын
lmao booger sugar
@DevilishDaysxMaui
@DevilishDaysxMaui Жыл бұрын
The Many Seasons of Rory: A Full-Series Analysis ?
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
Hmmm that actually sounds interesting
@adriannajones6351
@adriannajones6351 4 ай бұрын
I think Fiona is a really representation of borderline personality disorder. Like possibly one of the best portrayal of bpd on television.
@adriannajones6351
@adriannajones6351 4 ай бұрын
She’s just trying her hardest to get a one up and not have to struggle every corner she turns. There was stuff she did that bothered me but ultimately she’s just so unsure of who she really is because she’s had to be a caregiver and a sister and a friend and a worker her whole life. That’s a lot to juggle. Props to the writers for creating such a complex character.
@justjoannak
@justjoannak Жыл бұрын
As much as I love Fiona, I *100%* agree that the booger sugar storyline was her fault. Especially since she knew there were young kids in the house. Also, I haven’t watched Shameless properly but I agree that weird Carl storyline is a no from me
@jackkirker9535
@jackkirker9535 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think she could've left Liam at Sheila's while sniffing the you-know-what.
@havana4648
@havana4648 6 ай бұрын
I’m binge watching Shameless and after the fourth season I just fast forward through the scenes with Fiona. I find the show flows better without her character…for me anyway
@likeafiend
@likeafiend 2 ай бұрын
I loved Fiona, she was my favorite character, then the way her character shifted after the season she left her I'll just say "stuff" out and Liam got into it. Lip despite his self-destructive and addiction issues he quickly became my favorite character (of the family, V was my absolute favorite). He screwed up all the time also but I trusted his intentions more. Her selling out her neighborhood later on, becoming a gentrifier herself just was another nail in the coffin for me. She was never my least favorite though, by the end of the series Debbie was that. But like every character was fucked up.. Carl's appropriation, Ian's biphobia and transphobia (he kind of got over it but still). Everything about Frank and Monica.
@OFFICIALJJSMP
@OFFICIALJJSMP 8 ай бұрын
Why’d you even put in that scene with Carl in it? It doesn’t matter
@sandersgeorges
@sandersgeorges Жыл бұрын
Not defending the character but I'm from Brockton Massachusetts there are many white boy Carl's here I kind of just got desensitized to it over time
@sandyashe6715
@sandyashe6715 6 ай бұрын
Watching for the first time and I agree with you 100%!! She got guardianship and then left them to fend for themselves!! She wanted them to have a better life than she had and left them every night to be with her man at the time. Ugh
@Xxrocknrollgod
@Xxrocknrollgod 13 күн бұрын
3:06 to skip nonsense
@kidhalloween8570
@kidhalloween8570 Жыл бұрын
I loved Fiona right until she cheated on Mike with his own brother. She had it good with Mike. And then kept going back to Robbie’s. That’s when her downfall started.
@nkaisengpalo5740
@nkaisengpalo5740 Жыл бұрын
Right! And what she did to Gus too.
@dlcc___x
@dlcc___x 6 ай бұрын
I think just a “i watched girlmore girls so you don’t have to (season 1)” situation would be fun
@DanaEigsti
@DanaEigsti 28 күн бұрын
I liked Fiona up until Debbie got pregnant. I know she told her not to have the baby but she had her and she was still very young she needed help. It was like when Fiona agreed to be the guardian of her siblings the judge warned her what a long commitment it was going to be and I think she only did it to keep them out of foster care. I know she loved them but I don't think she fully understood the commitment. Frank actually said something to the baby fathers family when the dad said my son never wanted her to have that baby true but like Frank said she had her anyways and the baby needs things she costs money. She had the baby and she needed help. Like Frank and Monica had a bunch of kids too that Fiona had to raise. When she had the family meeting and made everyone pay Carl and Debbie was still under 18. I stated to really dislike Fiona in season 7 and was glad to see her leave in season 9.
@ariste5340
@ariste5340 Жыл бұрын
New sub but Gilmore gist is cute for a series recap
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
Thank youuu for being here
@audrey8335
@audrey8335 Жыл бұрын
OK W WHITE BOY CARL OHH MY GOD DUDE THAT WAS SO BAD but fiona’s smile to me was uncomfortable like “ what the fuck “. & i hate debbie no matter what. I’m sorry she just tried to be the “ new Fiona “ and it didn’t let Debbie shine for who she was which ruined her character so much
@ecco7487
@ecco7487 Жыл бұрын
Fiona felt entitled. Extra unpopular opinion: I understand wanting a life for herself but she should've just left town the first time. We and the characters knew if they stay there the cycle repeats itself. The first time she left to do the whole diner and laundromat storyline it felt like she abandoned the kids completely and wanted nothing to do with them.
@roadworkahead8967
@roadworkahead8967 Жыл бұрын
I never thought someone’s character development Over the seasons that would ultimately make me hate the character Also I didn’t watch Gilmore girls buuut idk I feel like maybe you could call it the golden years, a series
@jackkirker9535
@jackkirker9535 Жыл бұрын
I usually skip the episode that Carl comes back from prison/jail/juvie because it just makes it uncomfy to watch
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
YES
@jackkirker9535
@jackkirker9535 Жыл бұрын
I love Fiona but I still hold her accountable.
@dustyvaughn528
@dustyvaughn528 Жыл бұрын
I just watched a few seasons and I can understand Fiona but deb is most hated
@32nkdhdhekqki
@32nkdhdhekqki 2 ай бұрын
I genuinely did like her but my biggest issue with fiona is that she causes her own problems and then cries about and blames everybody else And then continues to make her own problems
@koolkat1704
@koolkat1704 Жыл бұрын
cancer rising twinnie🫶🏻
@kierralovestv
@kierralovestv Жыл бұрын
😭 what’s good twinnn how are we doing
@ImOldGreggg
@ImOldGreggg 3 ай бұрын
I loved Fiona for the first few seasons, then she just turned into the worst person out of everyone. I Couldn't stand how she treated everyone.
@mariavirginiamendoza7818
@mariavirginiamendoza7818 Жыл бұрын
for the gilmore year in the life! just do something click bating
@MadGriss
@MadGriss Жыл бұрын
I liked this video before I even started watching it because Fiona annoyed me sooooooo much lol
@ericenzo9302
@ericenzo9302 8 ай бұрын
Dont know why exactly but since season 5 or 6 i am disliking her more and since season 9 I cannot stand her laugh , dancing and arrogant person.
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