Why Everyone Hates Alisa In TEKKEN 8

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BoogardMG

BoogardMG

Ай бұрын

In todays video we discuss why Alisa has always been so hated in tekken and why its gotten so much worse here in Tekken 8. If you guys enjoyed the video and want to see more stuff like this please consider subscribing or showing the video to a friend. It means the world :)
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@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
What do you guys think about Alisa in this game? Also let me know which character you want to see covered next
@w1nther930
@w1nther930 Ай бұрын
I think Eddy would be an excellent character to see covered. All his moves are completely unpredictable, and as you've made another video on him, you can also highlight the fact that you litterally can't lab Eddy, if you haven't bought Eddy
@zinv08
@zinv08 Ай бұрын
I'd really like to hear your insight on Leo. I just can't figure out why I hate fighting this character. Please and thank you.
@technothug8974
@technothug8974 Ай бұрын
@@w1nther930 Yeah I think namco is trying to make us forget about the obnoxious characters like Alisa that are already in the game by adding new cancer like reworked eddy and lidia.
@flemin9k
@flemin9k Ай бұрын
I saw this ytuber in orange ranks 🤣
@therickestmorty2482
@therickestmorty2482 Ай бұрын
#1 spot is Feng lol
@slavinplays4114
@slavinplays4114 Ай бұрын
Can’t believe chainsaw-chans movement is so good she dodged the nerfs.
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
Harada will bless us next patch I believe 🙏
@eddmozz
@eddmozz Ай бұрын
It looks like we will be waiting until season 2
@aldofer8832
@aldofer8832 Ай бұрын
@@Boogard no major nerf coming until season 2, let's hope for a urgency patch when she dominate the competitive scene
@xchocome9629
@xchocome9629 Ай бұрын
Cause she’s not that great lol I’m yet to find an Alisa I can’t beat 😂
@davidchan4996
@davidchan4996 Ай бұрын
@@aldofer8832 Not likely. Only pro player who has won a tournament this year with her (even then only partly along with Zafina) was Chanel and he has been playing her since she was released in arcades back in 2008! There is a better chance Paul and Bryan will likely dominate the competitive scene from now to Season 2.
@Topgamer357
@Topgamer357 Ай бұрын
Her movement is so powerful she dodged getting nerfed in the latest patch.
@Davidb5212
@Davidb5212 Ай бұрын
Most frustrating character to fight against in all my years playing tekken
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
Agreed she's probably my most hated character to fight rn
@jazzoj5
@jazzoj5 Ай бұрын
Yep, easily my worse match up
@SylvainJoseGautier-
@SylvainJoseGautier- 26 күн бұрын
King lit exists
@jazzoj5
@jazzoj5 25 күн бұрын
@@SylvainJoseGautier- King is no. 2, Alisa is worse
@abra2133
@abra2133 Ай бұрын
You play Tekken, while Alisa players play guilty gear
@weiwu1442
@weiwu1442 Ай бұрын
she might as well be a gear with her abilities honestly
@DerNussknacker11
@DerNussknacker11 Ай бұрын
As an Alisa main I literally start playing Guilty Gear when I get frustrated in Tekken
@eliasdailey3911
@eliasdailey3911 21 күн бұрын
@@DerNussknacker11I play street fighter
@kennethforman5265
@kennethforman5265 Ай бұрын
I just made 73rd place in the NA road to evo tournament. One of my matches was a high level alisa player. It was so hard to win. It was so hard that I was in disbelief that I defeated Alisa as Law. The only things that worked was baiting out her hopkick by not punishing her after an attack, then 1,1,2 and wr 4. It felt like a 15 hour job after the match.
@KoufalKoufax
@KoufalKoufax Ай бұрын
lol Law is S-tier.
@kennethforman5265
@kennethforman5265 Ай бұрын
@@KoufalKoufax true dat
@JustSendMeLocation
@JustSendMeLocation Ай бұрын
Law is S-Tier why would you be surprised you beat Alisa?
@himmelaoj1834
@himmelaoj1834 Ай бұрын
I as Alisa player always think Law is exhausting to face
@kennethforman5265
@kennethforman5265 Ай бұрын
@@himmelaoj1834 good. Wataaah!
@justanotherbruin
@justanotherbruin Ай бұрын
She's such a scary character in this game. Even if you're on point with your blocking it's insane how much health she can chip on you.
@TimothyMorigeau
@TimothyMorigeau Ай бұрын
How funny because she’s my favorite character that I always play as. I didn’t realize she was hated so much.
@k_tay2507
@k_tay2507 Ай бұрын
Sure. If you main her it's a dream come true, but if you go against her...💀
@ronniepunani
@ronniepunani 21 күн бұрын
Same
@Elb-mf2el
@Elb-mf2el 18 күн бұрын
Same
@laurencevicar5798
@laurencevicar5798 Ай бұрын
In terms of personality, I hate Azucena way more.
@xldrizzylx1153
@xldrizzylx1153 Ай бұрын
FACIL
@Alaris_
@Alaris_ Ай бұрын
CÓMETE ESTO
@Ostrid1
@Ostrid1 28 күн бұрын
She's obnoxious as hell And I speak Spanish so I understand all her bs one liners 😅
@RobBrawlBeastArchive
@RobBrawlBeastArchive Ай бұрын
I saw a thread on steam titled "Alisa this character require no skill and keep cast its chainsaw confirm cheap win." I was literally in tears laughing...
@FrozenRemix1
@FrozenRemix1 Ай бұрын
Personally, I love playing Alisa, and I love fighting Alisa
@madfinnishgamer38
@madfinnishgamer38 Ай бұрын
Alisa is actually my favorite character, she's been my main since T6. :P Haven't gotten my hands on T8 yet, so I can't comment on her in that, but from my experience with previous games in the franchise, I do see why she gets a lot of hate. I'm just personally a fan of Alisa *exactly because* she's such a powerful character, but that's not to say I'm biased. With her already being so powerful, it isn't exactly fair to *not* nerf Alisa while arguably even more powerful characters (if there are any) get that treatment. She was never nerfed in T7 either as far as I recall.
@dogboyton3166
@dogboyton3166 Ай бұрын
At least since I’m in the really low levels the counterplay is simple. They spam the high chainsaw, I can spam power crushes. I’m dreading the day I face an Alisa who knows how to actually use lows
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
A good alisa player is like a dark souls boss
@lennythesatan7747
@lennythesatan7747 Ай бұрын
Then you will have mixed results finding Alisa players on ranked. Because there are just who don't get her and use goofy stuff or those who know at least some basic stuff about her, myself included.
@YiddishDancingClown
@YiddishDancingClown Ай бұрын
​@@lennythesatan7747no one who plays Alisa knows what they're doing
@lennythesatan7747
@lennythesatan7747 Ай бұрын
@@YiddishDancingClown I play Alisa. So what are you on?
@YiddishDancingClown
@YiddishDancingClown Ай бұрын
​@@lennythesatan7747and you don't know what you're doing with her either
@Perry_Talion
@Perry_Talion Ай бұрын
I used to think Yoshimitsu was unpredictable until I fought Alisa. What even is Neutral? What is this fabled legend called, "My turn?" Tekken is a fighting game? This whole time I thought it was a "How long will it take before I die while blocking?" game. Believe me she was range 4 came with diving chainsaws, range 0. I blinked once she was range 3. I blick again and got hellswept, uninstalled.
@aharris82
@aharris82 Ай бұрын
Haha, on some SNK boss type s***, I'm surprised they didn't give her the ability to fly around the screen like Sentinel in Marvel vs. Capcom XD
@Browniedays
@Browniedays Ай бұрын
I don't understand why people hate cuteness in videogames, they always treat cuteness as a crime, something that shouldn't exist and something that should be erased in videogames, even more in fighting games. If the female character don't have 4 big personalities they hate it, but If it does they love it and simp it till death. Players only like that and badass woman to step on them. I like Alissa since I watched the cgi movie and If I could play this game I would make her one of my mains because of her design and personality.
@VaSoapman
@VaSoapman Ай бұрын
In this case its not the cute, but rather what the cute is attached too. Lucky Chloe is the Tekken character people love to hate just because she is "cute".
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity Ай бұрын
Maybe stop making characters that are supposed to be cute, annoying or fucking cringey in the process. You know whose cute ? Kirby. People love kirby, he isnt annoying, hes powerful and adorable. Xiaoyu Id argue is cute but she doesnt have an annoying gimmick to her character.
@igorbb2900
@igorbb2900 Ай бұрын
Panda is cute. No one hates Panda.
@ehhicotuzrobic8271
@ehhicotuzrobic8271 Ай бұрын
Alisa is mostly hated because gameplay hating her for other things is just ignorance (she's the best female character in this game)
@moxdegiourno7984
@moxdegiourno7984 18 күн бұрын
i dont mind cutesy lucky chloe or lili but alisa wasnt like this man, even knowing how to sidestep or block her chainsaw makes you wanna block the player playing them lol AND WHY NO NERF?!
@WWMK05
@WWMK05 Ай бұрын
I can absolutely admit i hate Alisa. I never really liked her as a character and facing her made me hate her more. I'm just not fond of her as a whole 😅
@melthework4511
@melthework4511 Ай бұрын
It took me over 400 games to get mighty ruler with Jun. I started playing Alisa a month or 2 ago and I’m already about to hit fujin in under 200 games. Never understood all the Jun hate minus the heat Smash, felt like the character was unreasonably hated. Now that I’m playing Alisa the hatred actually feels justified And it’s crazy people are now just catching on in tekken 8
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
I got also got to fujin with her insanely fast lol
@mikevides69
@mikevides69 Ай бұрын
As a Jun player, the heat smash was honestly the only real broken move she had and that it's been driven to the ground no plays her even tho she's still really strong will climb rank again with her when everyone forgets the match up
@prasanthraonilapu8809
@prasanthraonilapu8809 17 күн бұрын
Reaching fujin when your a tekken emperor should not be that surprising. Your naturally gonna be better at the game when you have 400 games into a character. Can confirm the hatred for Jun is pretty well justified too
@BloodyBushido
@BloodyBushido Ай бұрын
Please stop pronouncing her name wrong🙄
@GrizzlyGriffin
@GrizzlyGriffin Ай бұрын
Whilst I'll occasionally come across taunting scrubby main characters running Victor or Hwoarang, you don't need to learn the match up too much to have a fighting chance to take them down, usually by learning when to duck their key strings. Alisa mains are next level scrub, and consistently have the worst BM out of all of them.
@JobeLovo
@JobeLovo Ай бұрын
Facts I went against a taunting trash Alisa one time she had 2 rounds and I had zero then I made a 3 round come back ending with a perfect(with Steve before buffs) and hit a fat ki charge best Tekken 8 moment ever
@nw6358
@nw6358 Ай бұрын
duck and jab. all you have to do is duck and jab! also this guy put CHANEL gameplay up who literally the best Alisa main in the world. of course she's looks strong. Devil Jin looks s-tier when you put momodog gameplay up too
@JobeLovo
@JobeLovo Ай бұрын
@@nw6358 Alisa is a very strong character much stronger then devil Jin but the reason ppl hate her isnt cuz she's strong it's cuz of how easy and cheap she is and if you try to crouchjab after her plus on block high that links into itself you get launched by her plus 5 on block mid launcher
@ThaRealZapZarbie
@ThaRealZapZarbie 18 күн бұрын
They better not nerf her lmao I remember when I was little and played tekken, not knowing much about it. Alisa caught my eye, maybe I was like 8 or something. I come back to it years later, now joining the tekken community, and she's one of my favorites. Been with her since day one lmao😭
@MrSquishy0
@MrSquishy0 Ай бұрын
Alisa is the real favorite child of the devs.
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
They just refuse to nerf her lol
@gawdzirra93_20
@gawdzirra93_20 Ай бұрын
No that’s Bryan
@nowheretoknow
@nowheretoknow Ай бұрын
Indeed
@sollato0293
@sollato0293 Ай бұрын
They won’t nerf her until Bandai Namco decides to remaster Xenosaga, until then, the Tekken team lets the Kos-Mos adjacent character to be lore accurate.
@anzdes219
@anzdes219 16 күн бұрын
@@gawdzirra93_20 stop smoking
@sang_from_rushhour3009
@sang_from_rushhour3009 Ай бұрын
Hi, in your tekken expertise, when do you predict the release of Lidia? late June, early july-ish?
@ourbeautifulfantasia001
@ourbeautifulfantasia001 Ай бұрын
Strong and braindead are two things that should not mix 😂
@finnmarr-heenan2397
@finnmarr-heenan2397 Ай бұрын
Tell that to all the Virgil losers who still cream themselves over the most basic xfactor combo taking out a whole team off one random screen filling sword normal
@invoked5114
@invoked5114 Ай бұрын
Alisa Main spotted
@edgelord121
@edgelord121 Ай бұрын
She's both
@frobeusns6404
@frobeusns6404 Ай бұрын
I'm an Alisa main since her introduction. While she is basically free wins up until Fujin +, I think that firmly stops around Bushin. Once you start fighting people that know the matchup, she's pretty hard to win with IMO. Bc so much of her gameplay involves her being in the air she's extremely easy to float with jabs. Also her wall combos are bad.
@frobeusns6404
@frobeusns6404 Ай бұрын
I'm currently Tekken King with her
@Toeknee994L
@Toeknee994L Ай бұрын
Just false
@michaelpacheco6549
@michaelpacheco6549 Ай бұрын
Being floatable would be nice if it didnt gimp the damage of a full combo by 60+ percent. Same reason why the slides got nerfed. Way too much reward for basically no risk.
@zero9462
@zero9462 Ай бұрын
when you mentioned Alisa's voicelines being traumatizing, all that popped into my head was hearing "AAH AAH AAH AAH AAH" when she does her chainsaw attacks or dash attacks
@nowheretoknow
@nowheretoknow Ай бұрын
Robot Fetish pleaser😂😂
@njoguszn
@njoguszn Ай бұрын
"b-but you can just duck!111!"- the alisa main yells in an effort to act like their character doesnt require half a quarter of a braincell to pilot
@goatharvester2670
@goatharvester2670 Ай бұрын
So real 😭😭 🙏🏾
@Tredhd
@Tredhd Ай бұрын
Dont get mad, git gud. 😂
@legendofsonic3979
@legendofsonic3979 Ай бұрын
​@@TredhdI want the Alisa players to get good first
@lescd7210
@lescd7210 Ай бұрын
@@legendofsonic3979 obviously if you’re losing their better
@edgelord121
@edgelord121 Ай бұрын
​@@lescd7210I destroy them in alisa mirrors. Ntm you can see them making to high ranks with very little fundamentals.
@Michael-qt9lh
@Michael-qt9lh Ай бұрын
WHY DIDNT SHE GET NERFED
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
Pray for next patch
@darkninja9499
@darkninja9499 Ай бұрын
​@@Boogardafter fckin 6 months
@YukkiRuiii
@YukkiRuiii Ай бұрын
​@@Boogard nah she aint getting nerfed cuz bro i have mained her for 15 years and she has been a menace for those 15 and Bamco have never given her any substantial nerfs and why would they do it now 😂😂😂
@Retro_WrathX13B
@Retro_WrathX13B Ай бұрын
I play against an Alisa multiple times every week because I got him into Tekken. Found some useful stuff while fighting him and researching the character to help him learn. The chainsaws were the thing that drew my eye as a Doom and 40K fan and the improved movement and Hellsweep on them has her in my next handful of characters to learn
@omegadeepblue1407
@omegadeepblue1407 Ай бұрын
The reason why Alisa's concept is very out of place was revealed on a talk with Dai Sato from Digital Frontier (the animation producer that makes the intros, endings and all cinematics of the Tekken games since the arcade version of Tekken 6), Sato is the director of the Blood Vengeance Movie (a movie that you will enjoy if you are a diehard fan of Xiaoyu and Alisa, if that's not the case, then just search the final battles of the movie between Heihachi, Kazuya and Jin,, is very well produced. And if you are a fan of lost media, it's spanish dub is lost media so get fun searching for it) and asked Harada how he came with Alisa. Harada say that Alisa took 5 minutes to be created as a concept, Harada really wanted a robotic character with detachable limbs, even the torso was gonna be detachable. He was not sure about how to develop that idea but he was sure of two things 1) The robotic character needed to have detachable limbs 2) It has to be a woman. If you look for some concepts arts of Alisa you can find that one of her concepts looks like Katarina Alves from Tekken 7. Probably Alisa is the only character who didn't pass to market studies and the months or even years of development to be created as the rest of the characters, she is there because the developers wanted to be there. She wasn't made to fit an specific market, she was made to fit the developers. Source: Remember when i told about Tekken Blood Vengeance? The extras section includes the interviews Harada have with Sato, so you if you want you can hear word by word how Harada created Alisa
@poppling60
@poppling60 Ай бұрын
I've liked alisa for years (since tekken 6) but I'm not that good at the game, so I'm in complete shock that people hate fighting her( although I think it's because I'm not that active in the tekken community) Edit: I also think Alisa and Lars are adorable
@animederek0392
@animederek0392 Ай бұрын
3:06 So Leroy is not alone from this, huh?
@victorstrong7378
@victorstrong7378 Ай бұрын
Wow.
@therealdude707
@therealdude707 Ай бұрын
I would love to see a video on Azucena (for archive).
@himmelaoj1834
@himmelaoj1834 Ай бұрын
I main Alisa (Tekken King). I say no fighting game player is carried. This character being this good means almost all top rank players or professional players specifically train themselves against Alisa. At top rank everyone just dodges every second hit from Alisa, which usually would grant them the first win, before Alisas having to switch strategy. Once Alisa switched movement from mid-high combo to mid-mid combos, all the moves are no longer safe on block. By the way, Chanel plays really bad maining Alisa in recent tournaments. His chainsaw plays got beaten the shit out. People in east Asia like Alisa-liked character, they are having fun getting into this game, watching her animation, what's wrong with paying 70 dollar and having fun in their favorite game? Plus I think Alisa players are all friendly in general (most toxic players I encounter are Jins and Hwoarangs, it is very sad to say but true). And I think Law and Victor are way more broken. My God I hate that old face in that suit
@riotron1026
@riotron1026 Ай бұрын
I never enjoyed fighting this character. Something felt particularly off and cheap about her, couldn’t really put into words what it was. This explains things very well.
@lorddreadwave8450
@lorddreadwave8450 Ай бұрын
I'm a longtime Lars main with Alisa as a secondary main Should I pick up Victor to finally complete the hate triangle?
@KraftyMattKraft
@KraftyMattKraft Ай бұрын
The character just forces you to think about situations differently. Her pop-up wake up is one of them. As a Paul main, I want to rush in and force a 50/50 on wake-up, but this pop-up wake up that Alisa has just destroys me, as it looks nothing like the rest of the cast. I have a buddy that plays Alisa, and has flowcharted his way up to Fujin. Playing against him is frustrating and annoying, but I am now getting more wins than loses when I play against him.
@kemalerdemsahin410
@kemalerdemsahin410 Ай бұрын
The fact that only way to counter her is returning to warm-up after a match is insane. We need more counter options than this
@NgObscure
@NgObscure Ай бұрын
Great vid! I agree with a lot of stuff including the info about her chip damage, it's craaaazzy. Worth noting that many top players have gone on record saying Alisa is actually NOT as easy to pick up and play as ppl may think since understanding how to properly use saws takes awhile. It's a big reason there are only Chanel clips in this video lol. Cuddle does amazing things with her too but it kinda stops there. Still a top 10 character and a great pick if you enjoy movement/neutral based characters!
@MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p
@MisanThrope-cu1mw7fj3p Ай бұрын
Joined the Tekken community by... Tekken 8, so I'm a total Tekken noob. Alisa was the first character I put some real effort into learning. Tried a bunch of fighters, but she feels really smooth, responsive, well-rounded. I'm no top-tier player in any shape or form, but I'm having a ton of fun with her, both winning and losing.
@Litepastistime
@Litepastistime Ай бұрын
It's okay, it's a hidden top tier bcs you don't see her high in tournament and it's far far faaaaar to be the most played character, meaning I suppose that meta slave don't really deem her worth their time :o Play what you like and don't bother minding peoples opinion, and have fun! :D
@DeludedDreamer
@DeludedDreamer Ай бұрын
I'd be curious to see what your take on why Leroy is so under played. Fwiw the Leroy discord is a solid source of information on what makes the character work, but it seems like outside that small community nobody really knows much about him much less wants to play him.
@dreday6320
@dreday6320 Ай бұрын
Tbh Alisa without chainsaws is at best C tier
@Pojechany
@Pojechany Ай бұрын
Yeah but this stance is there to give her various 50/50 option and advantage on block... it just might be too much that she can also block in that stance, noone else has blocking stance I believe.
@dreday6320
@dreday6320 Ай бұрын
@@Pojechany Chainsaws are not that good. It's only good on most of y'all because y'all love to mash against them honestly.
@DjGaiden
@DjGaiden Ай бұрын
Now that this patch out. Pre-June 10th who was the most hated character for “Vanilla” Tekken 8? Or your most hated?
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
Probably victor tbh
@DizioTech
@DizioTech Ай бұрын
As a developer myself It's a crazy oversight to push a character with so many strenght and almost no drawbacks, it feels like a huge bug they know about and they don't want to fix, and the bug name's Alisa if EVEN the training mode lacks good advices to deal with her kit (and some of them aren't reliable), then it's just a call for a patch before we get this game stuck in a dead state like Smash Ultimate, where DLC came in, but without any balancing patch (making Steve the best character of the game) In a game where micro spacing is important, where punishing is often the key to victory, having a fighter that's a threat at any range and level, no, that's a huge oversight or a voluntary mistake
@ShiibityBeepBap
@ShiibityBeepBap Ай бұрын
Most underrated tekken youtube content creator?
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
Really appreciate it
@ShiibityBeepBap
@ShiibityBeepBap Ай бұрын
Do you stream also?
@goldeklee
@goldeklee Ай бұрын
As someone who got their start in Tekken playing T8 Alisa, I think it's kinda funny how little I actually utilized the chainsaws in my own gameplay. They were kinda my least favorite aspect of her to *play* as. Eventually, some friends and I wanted to try playing T6, but none of my combos carried over at all so I decided to switch and learn Lili. Now I am LEGS
@RenTheDragon1975
@RenTheDragon1975 Ай бұрын
This is such a Mishima Boy Video .... I too Hated Alisa All the way back in Tag 2 .... So I picked her up to try and learn how to vs her and only after a Few days found her really Fun and Easy to Use .... AND Fun and Easy to Vs.... She then became my secondary ......It cracks me up that Mishima boys will defend Kazuya's BS Vortex where you have guess for your life .... but then have issues that you have to guess for your life vs Chainsaws .... Mishimas also have a Wavedash that they can change the timing of AND will realign them with the Opponent whereas Alisa's approach tools are a) Linear and b) a Fixed range. Yes she is easy to pick up and use .... but that is a double edged sword because it takes little effort to pick her up and understand how to vs her ..... Try doing that quickly with Tippy-Tappy BS Boy, Yo-man or Ling.
@itzdcx7991
@itzdcx7991 Ай бұрын
*I honestly hate fighting King, Victor, Howwrange and Eddie more* Hell throw Dragonov into there These characters are annoying asf and have insanely busted moves that can easily be spammed multiple times. Frustrates me
@JobeLovo
@JobeLovo Ай бұрын
U need to get your priorities straight
@itzdcx7991
@itzdcx7991 Ай бұрын
@@JobeLovo those are my priorities genius I run into these brain dead character way more I rarely ever run into a Alisa
@JobeLovo
@JobeLovo Ай бұрын
@@itzdcx7991 that's exactly why u hate them more so get your priorities straight and join the Alisa hate group
@Chickadee777
@Chickadee777 Ай бұрын
1.Alisa 2.Eddie 3.King
@nagyelsokkary502
@nagyelsokkary502 Ай бұрын
I dunno if it’s just me or what, but I actually don’t mind alisa as much as I mind hwoarang. I’m Raijin/kishin btw.
@nagyelsokkary502
@nagyelsokkary502 Ай бұрын
Nvm just played against her now and got obliterated lol
@jazzoj5
@jazzoj5 Ай бұрын
I hate them both 😂
@ApacheJay156
@ApacheJay156 Ай бұрын
Hwoarang is far and away more hate able than Alisa.
@JobeLovo
@JobeLovo Ай бұрын
​@@ApacheJay156the complete opposite hwoarang is at least a cool character and takes more then 50 IQ to use a monkey could win with Alisa
@JMproductions7
@JMproductions7 Ай бұрын
Hwoarang will just mash until the win but alisa it feels like i have to be guessing when she does chainsaws and can’t counterplay
@azaluna2136
@azaluna2136 Ай бұрын
I was thinking about maybe picking up tekken for the first time, but not I'm not so sure lol
@Mokujinko
@Mokujinko Ай бұрын
I love to try out new characters just to see how they feel and my brief tenure with Alisa drew me more hate than any other character on the roster, easily. People do not like the same pressure.
@zinv08
@zinv08 Ай бұрын
She certainly is easy comparing her to my time with Ling. Her combos can consist of mostly a simple UF1. When cornered she can B1+2 then fight her way out with chainsaws. I still enjoy fighting her but I think that's because I used her myself.
@samsoniteprosser591
@samsoniteprosser591 Ай бұрын
Alisa player here, I wish other buttons were better than UF1. There's all these cool looking moves but just pressing UF1 twice is almost always better
@humphreymagbanua6395
@humphreymagbanua6395 Ай бұрын
Ngl i love alisa and i shes my main but having mirror match is kinda annoying because like showing whos better and good player
@FLOW3ROFHOP3
@FLOW3ROFHOP3 26 күн бұрын
honestly i like playing against other Alisa mains because i can learn something from other players
@Ero-Sempai
@Ero-Sempai Ай бұрын
I play both alisa and yushi its really easy to counter them it just need to practice against them . My friend used to hate me because of that but when he learned the basics behind them i get destroyed almost every game from him only 😂
@JobeLovo
@JobeLovo Ай бұрын
As a Alisa main you have no right to say she's easy to counter she's one of the most braindead annoying characters in any fighting game and should be removed
@Ero-Sempai
@Ero-Sempai Ай бұрын
@@JobeLovo lol chill
@prasanthraonilapu8809
@prasanthraonilapu8809 17 күн бұрын
​@@Ero-Sempaijust ignore them. They're just a hater that is just a waste of space
@shilohnash8234
@shilohnash8234 Ай бұрын
As a Tekken king alisa main i hope you guys power through this
@jeffbridges6110
@jeffbridges6110 Ай бұрын
LoL. My 3 most hated so far are Alisa , LiLl and Reina. I have to see how things are after I play using the 1.05 patch.
@IcedAssassin
@IcedAssassin 24 күн бұрын
LOOL those 3 are my favorites to play as 😂
@jazzarazzatfc5047
@jazzarazzatfc5047 Ай бұрын
Didnt watch the video, but liked and subscribed presuming the long and short of it is: 1) at no distance am i safe 2) when the chainsaws come out i lose my turn for a long time, disrupting my pressure and concentration. t. Alisa main 😊
@supersalty_9459
@supersalty_9459 Ай бұрын
it takes years to understand yoshimitsu, and i still don't know what im doing.
@TheParkourFencer
@TheParkourFencer Ай бұрын
I like her design, I just hate how she feels constantly plus and the chip damage is a executed poorly for everyone but especially her.
@williehawkinsii4845
@williehawkinsii4845 Ай бұрын
I can't really say if I hate the character because I have only played against two people in ranked mode use the character
@professoremil
@professoremil Ай бұрын
It’s been 16 YEARS!? Omfg, I’m OLD! 😭
@Ace1stClass77
@Ace1stClass77 Ай бұрын
Weak to sidestepping or lows?
@notslxsher
@notslxsher Ай бұрын
As an Alisa main I love matching with other ones because 9 times outta 10 they don't know what to do then I'll face a good one and I'll have fun running that set (I'm Raijin Rank)
@vonex3397
@vonex3397 Ай бұрын
Alisa mains on top
@Boogard
@Boogard Ай бұрын
I'm scared
@PancakesTsuki
@PancakesTsuki Ай бұрын
U kno it 😤
@Dahyunstan34
@Dahyunstan34 Ай бұрын
Yass
@Scutter17
@Scutter17 Ай бұрын
Our time is NOOOOW!
@heinzbeanz1120
@heinzbeanz1120 17 күн бұрын
Alisa mains RISE
@TravisMCP
@TravisMCP Ай бұрын
I played Tekken 1- Tekken Tag religiously and then dropped out until T8. This character almost made me delete the game the first time I played against her online.
@finnmarr-heenan2397
@finnmarr-heenan2397 Ай бұрын
Tekken 8 is not a good example of tekken
@AfroSnackey
@AfroSnackey Ай бұрын
I played her in the last game. Good to know my character's busted in this one I haven't played yet.
@jetertj
@jetertj Ай бұрын
I have been playing with my jun online, and I haven't come across alisa player yet.
@thedarkderp2520
@thedarkderp2520 Ай бұрын
I've mained her since 6 i just love characters with goofy or unorthodox movesets so whether she's top or bottom tier i still have fun playing her that being said they need to nerf her chip damage it's way too much
@dt7202
@dt7202 Ай бұрын
Always 1 and done on Alisa. I dont care lol
@ruve_9074
@ruve_9074 Ай бұрын
this is why i play as scummy as possible and taunt to bait a rematch :^)
@firekungfuhero1150
@firekungfuhero1150 Ай бұрын
Just give her like a "battery meter" system where it spends battery meter to use spamming plus on block cheap chainsaw moves and super mobility
@nocontent1276
@nocontent1276 Ай бұрын
I don't regret maining Alisa. (I'm only able to play T6 on a emulator on my phone)
@joshuakelly8266
@joshuakelly8266 Ай бұрын
This video was pretty on the nose. As an average player that got a lot of hate in seven it burns me up that characters like this and eddy exist, but it’s also nice to not get messages about how cheese I am
@gouthamakumar6591
@gouthamakumar6591 9 сағат бұрын
So, Tekken 8 is my first fighting game, and when I picked it up, I had a friend who offered to help me learn. What he did, was 1v1 me, and all he did was use Alisa. I had no idea what was going on, and he didn't say shit about how stupid she was, just saying that I need to get better. Needless to say, I do not play Tekken with him anymore.
@BartasRapowanie
@BartasRapowanie Ай бұрын
Bro honestly? You content is so dope, have you thought about dropping the MG and leaving just Boogard? I think this would look way more professional and like a big channel
@tasos100
@tasos100 Ай бұрын
I picked her in 7 because I accidentally clicked on her on the menu when starting to play the game and just stuck with her. I personally think especially in 8 you need to prevent situations where she sets up destruction stance and realise that when you gain the momentum of the battle alisa is hard to do a comeback because of her damage and tools. But that's my opinion
@biiyen8458
@biiyen8458 Ай бұрын
You mean guarding against a literal pair of chainsaws deal an absurd amount of chip damage? Imagine my shock
@tableprinterdoor
@tableprinterdoor Ай бұрын
As a Lars player, we also hate our robo-wife. I do sense a video being made about us too soon LOL (cut us some slack though we were bottom tier in T7)
@jclarke90
@jclarke90 Ай бұрын
Lars Is is nowhere near a problem 😂 rest easy
@tableprinterdoor
@tableprinterdoor Ай бұрын
@@jclarke90 I’ve seen a lot of people angry at Lars at least in T8 haha
@MrSquishy0
@MrSquishy0 Ай бұрын
Alisa and Lars mains, we are two sides of the same bullshit annoying coin. But Alisa has even better bullshit than Lars
@jclarke90
@jclarke90 Ай бұрын
@@tableprinterdoor I use Lars trust me he’s not a threat. Especially when you understand his stance transitions and can react to his slow ass lows like SE 2 he can only open you up with Lows that don’t do any damage and everytime he uses it it’s death for him . This is why you don’t see any Lars in a tournament but Alisa is always present
@jclarke90
@jclarke90 Ай бұрын
@@tableprinterdoor anyone raging over Lars haven’t made a case that’s warranted it’s a skill issue on their end 💯
@ZombieRommel
@ZombieRommel Ай бұрын
I actually kinda like her design but she felt terrible to play as when I tried her out in practice mode. Whereas with someone like Jin, 2,1,4 gives you a straight, a jab, and a lowkick, Alisa does weird unpredictable stuff that is not intuitive at all, flying around the screen. I can see how she'd be fun, but it really did feel more like piloting a mech or robot and I didn't have a one to one sense of connection to the character's movements.
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity Ай бұрын
You wanna have your fun with Alisa? Fine. Just know itll be very one sided and you are NOT entitled to players to fight you/rematch you.
@lescd7210
@lescd7210 Ай бұрын
Personally this is my first Tekken and I love fighters I’ve always chosen the dashy characters or ones I liked and Alisa was fun for me and I liked her aesthetic. I thought an cutesy anime chick flying around with chainsaws was dope then I got hit with hate when I got higher in rank I was so confused😭
@lowlifelenny
@lowlifelenny Ай бұрын
Getting a Alisa to ragequit on me is the highlight of my Tekken career.
@MagicAlfi
@MagicAlfi Ай бұрын
I am a completely filthy casual and usually kne that prefers sf but tekken 8 vibed with me and this character just tickels all my itches. I cant wait to get home and get my full time ork + family 1-2 hours at night to spam her absurdly ridicolous moves throwing around her own head. Sign me up alisa at least one guy likes zou
@XNDL44
@XNDL44 Ай бұрын
The amount of times I lost to her destruction mode vs the actual character
@Scutter17
@Scutter17 Ай бұрын
Destruction mode is her true power. It's not some added on thing for fun
@jawcrusher2229
@jawcrusher2229 Ай бұрын
As an Alisa main i approve this video. lololol. I love this character been using her since her introduction to Tekken and I love what they have done to her in Tekken 8 she was always a secret S-Tier but now that the nerfs happens she will finally rise to the top where she belongs. Alisa shall reign supreme
@JobeLovo
@JobeLovo Ай бұрын
How do u sleep at night
@PancakesTsuki
@PancakesTsuki Ай бұрын
YES ALISA SUPREMACY!!!!!
@kuro_f_x
@kuro_f_x Ай бұрын
5:53 why I only see chanel?
@rainbowtitanium
@rainbowtitanium Ай бұрын
I dont use chainsaws as much as others... thats probably a big part of why i lose (apart from my own skill issues) lol
@thecollectivegamer3600
@thecollectivegamer3600 Ай бұрын
Bruh I love her. Rocket arm! Chainsaws! She can fly across the stage!
@bobaqawaii
@bobaqawaii 27 күн бұрын
bruv i saw this vid & got so sad hearing this, shes literally my fav especially as a cute character & combat abilities too 。゚(゚´ д `゚)゚。
@FLOW3ROFHOP3
@FLOW3ROFHOP3 26 күн бұрын
True me too Alisa deserves better she's so good character in personality and really pretty character + most fun to play imo
@flemin9k
@flemin9k Ай бұрын
What rank did you reach with alisa? Have you even reached blue rank?
@kzg_12
@kzg_12 Ай бұрын
Blue Rank KEKW
@jaycee-3035
@jaycee-3035 Ай бұрын
Aside from the Obnoxious gameplay, i find her cutesy anime girl personality more annoying than her gameplay itself so it's kinda of a double down for me
@Scutter17
@Scutter17 Ай бұрын
It's double up for me. Hot voice, hot girl.
@jaycee-3035
@jaycee-3035 Ай бұрын
@@Scutter17 I prefer the ones that exist
@Scutter17
@Scutter17 Ай бұрын
@@jaycee-3035 if now you're talking about real life hot girls, those are going rapidly extinct. Even in video games.
@jaycee-3035
@jaycee-3035 Ай бұрын
@@Scutter17 I actually prefer my girlfriend, i can tell you're an alisa main because you're starting to talk creepy already
@Scutter17
@Scutter17 Ай бұрын
@@jaycee-3035 you sound like a beta blue hairy. I didn't put any creepy thoughts into your head. That's your own doing. I like pretty women. Not sorry if that affends you, or weirds you out.
@vyse6980
@vyse6980 Ай бұрын
I have no issue with fighting Alisa. I thought the hate on her was more meme based than merit based honestly. If she is so strong, oppressive and op, where are all the Alisas in the tournament scene? Gentleman's agreement to pass on the best character in the game when playing for price money? I think not :V I feel like you can always just power crush her in chainsaw anyway.
@ehhicotuzrobic8271
@ehhicotuzrobic8271 Ай бұрын
People just don't know how to play against her because she's "tricky" i only lost to Alisa 1 time on ranked while having 300 hours in Tekken 8 unlike Bryan who always catches me in counter hit honestly i would prefer like to fight Alisa instead of Bryan.
@GuiDaFunkyMan_TK
@GuiDaFunkyMan_TK Ай бұрын
May Lei Wulong be included in a future DLC. 🙏
@VioKannali
@VioKannali 23 күн бұрын
I like her design ngl
@EpicOdysseus
@EpicOdysseus Ай бұрын
There are chainsaw moves she does where if you block it her turn is over, but most people don't know that and just keep respecting her and keep letting her mash. Good vid but you kind of frame it like once the saws are out there's nothing you can do and she has infinite advantage. You're right that you generally need to predict what she's going to do, but the odds are mostly in your favor, believe it or not. Just do a little research into what moves are generally safe to crouch jab after, which moves her turn ends if you block, and which moves are safest to just keep blocking (not many).
@Vorpvarpwarp
@Vorpvarpwarp Ай бұрын
I kept getting tortured by her back then (tekken 6) so i mained her and boom
@fizzy99974
@fizzy99974 Ай бұрын
This video triggered me so much 😂😂 I hate Alisa with a passion
@masteroftrolling7838
@masteroftrolling7838 Ай бұрын
If you main Alisa, then you’re carried.
@edmond0073
@edmond0073 Ай бұрын
Don’t care , maybe harada san wants an easy op character to shit on elitism in the game . ( also being carried does feel good 🙃)
@Cam7.
@Cam7. Ай бұрын
She’s the most fun in my biased opinion
@animetime3112
@animetime3112 Ай бұрын
@@edmond0073 Elitism when bad players are in low ranks
@susylasuncionlayson7846
@susylasuncionlayson7846 Ай бұрын
I am an Alisa main
@nichole4life
@nichole4life 7 күн бұрын
tbh you are just saying positives. she has more flaws then you think. we rarely can combo launch a skilled player. Alisa has always been a poke character. her chip damage u can literally just low punch / fast frame her out of her saws. shes not some op character. shes yoshimisu, jin and literally long range character combined.
@ryans2848
@ryans2848 Ай бұрын
It’s because she’s so tricky with her Lowe’s
@sebbbi2
@sebbbi2 Ай бұрын
In T7 Alisa’s only way to get into chainsaws was block punish and a slow FC sweep. She was rewarded with chainsaws when opponent made a mistake. And she didn’t have back/forward dash in chainsaws in T7 and no chip. Opponent could backdash a few times to get out. Or sidestep. But in T8 she will chase you with forward dash if you passively block and kill you with chip. She already had lots of knowledge checks in T7 that you had to lab and find character specific counters to beat. Even in high level matches I find people letting Alisa to do some bullshit mixups where opponent should have 100% OS float combo every time. But they let her mix instead. As you said DES 1 is -9 and slow animation. Opponent should take their forced mixup. That safe i13 mid does over 50 damage in T8 as they made the oki guaranteed (can’t ground roll anymore). And people let Alisa do d3 and running 2 without duck launching. And in low ranks b3+4,3+4 is braindead. Launch punishable, but you need to lab your OS (needs to both launch and float and have high enough hitbox). Or step the followup. I have labbed the matchup and played her too, so I have almost 100% win rate against her. I was doing an anti-anti cheese guide in T7, but never finished it. In T8 she still has lots of cheese, but chainsaw pressure isn’t cheese and she can continue it much better and she has now much more ways to get to chainsaws. Anti-cheese guide doesn’t help against that anymore.
@sebbbi2
@sebbbi2 Ай бұрын
In T8 her df1,1,1+2 become a massive cheese string. 60 damage guaranteed on counter hit. Plus on block to chainsaws. Opponent can duck launch it, but the last hit has a lingering hitbox. Have to time punish perfectly to launch it. Unusable at high level, OP at low/mid level. Bamco could nerf her cheese a bit to make the matchup more enjoyable, without actually nerfing her tournament viability much at all. At least in T8 they took away the stupid node bleed stun (launch if you didn’t hold d) and her ground float. Yes, she could launch you from ground in T7.
@Astro_Morri
@Astro_Morri Ай бұрын
The amount of players i stopped from ranking up with this character is astounding 😂
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