Why Game of Thrones Didn't Adapt The Greatest Speech From The Books 😡

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@xvor_tex8577
@xvor_tex8577 11 ай бұрын
I love how brienne instantly knew that meribald was talking from experience.
@ingainloggningsnamn
@ingainloggningsnamn 11 ай бұрын
Pretty obvious
@tenjoe4
@tenjoe4 10 ай бұрын
Robert's rebellion wasn't that long ago
@xvor_tex8577
@xvor_tex8577 10 ай бұрын
merribald was talking in 3rd person view of someone else, not indicating that he was actually telling his own story. But brienne picked up on that.
@xvor_tex8577
@xvor_tex8577 10 ай бұрын
​@tenjoe4 No, it wasn't that long ago, so merribald was talking about a previous war, I think it was the war of ninepenny kings.
@100nitrog2
@100nitrog2 10 ай бұрын
@@tenjoe4 It was the war of the Ninepenny Kings. Meribald says as much, stating that he never saw a king or earned a penny from fighting.
@TrollingRolling7821
@TrollingRolling7821 11 ай бұрын
"Ser? My lady?" said Podrick. "Is a broken man an outlaw?" "More or less," Brienne answered. Septon Meribald disagreed. "More less than more. There are many sorts of outlaws, just as there are many sorts of birds. A sandpiper and a sea eagle both have wings, but they are not the same. The singers love to sing of good men forced to go outside the law to fight some wicked lord, but most outlaws are more like this ravening Hound than they are the lightning lord. They are evil men, driven by greed, soured by malice, despising the gods and caring only for themselves. Broken men are more deserving of our pity, though they may be just as dangerous. Almost all are common-born, simple folk who had never been more than a mile from the house where they were born until the day some lord came round to take them off to war. Poorly shod and poorly clad, they march away beneath his banners, ofttimes with no better arms than a sickle or a sharpened hoe, or a maul they made themselves by lashing a stone to a stick with strips of hide. Brothers march with brothers, sons with fathers, friends with friends. They've heard the songs and stories, so they go off with eager hearts, dreaming of the wonders they will see, of the wealth and glory they will win. War seems a fine adventure, the greatest most of them will ever know. "Then they get a taste of battle. "For some, that one taste is enough to break them. Others go on for years, until they lose count of all the battles they have fought in, but even a man who has survived a hundred fights can break in his hundred-and-first. Brothers watch their brothers die, fathers lose their sons, friends see their friends trying to hold their entrails in after they've been gutted by an axe. "They see the lord who led them there cut down, and some other lord shouts that they are his now. They take a wound, and when that's still half-healed they take another. There is never enough to eat, their shoes fall to pieces from the marching, their clothes are torn and rotting, and half of them are shitting in their breeches from drinking bad water. "If they want new boots or a warmer cloak or maybe a rusted iron halfhelm, they need to take them from a corpse, and before long they are stealing from the living too, from the smallfolk whose lands they're fighting in, men very like the men they used to be. They slaughter their sheep and steal their chickens, and from there it's just a short step to carrying off their daughters too. And one day they look around and realize all their friends and kin are gone, that they are fighting beside strangers beneath a banner that they hardly recognize. They don't know where they are or how to get back home and the lord they're fighting for does not know their names, yet here he comes, shouting for them to form up, to make a line with their spears and scythes and sharpened hoes, to stand their ground. And the knights come down on them, faceless men clad all in steel, and the iron thunder of their charge seems to fill the world . . . "And the man breaks. "He turns and runs, or crawls off afterward over the corpses of the slain, or steals away in the black of night, and he finds someplace to hide. All thought of home is gone by then, and kings and lords and gods mean less to him than a haunch of spoiled meat that will let him live another day, or a skin of bad wine that might drown his fear for a few hours. The broken man lives from day to day, from meal to meal, more beast than man. Lady Brienne is not wrong. In times like these, the traveler must beware of broken men, and fear them . . . but he should pity them as well." When Meribald was finished a profound silence fell upon their little band. Brienne could hear the wind rustling through a clump of pussywillows, and farther off the faint cry of a loon. She could hear Dog panting softly as he loped along beside the septon and his donkey, tongue lolling from his mouth. The quiet stretched and stretched, until finally she said, "How old were you when they marched you off to war?" "Why, no older than your boy," Meribald replied. "Too young for such, in truth, but my brothers were all going, and I would not be left behind. Willam said I could be his squire, though Will was no knight, only a potboy armed with a kitchen knife he'd stolen from the inn. He died upon the Stepstones, and never struck a blow. It was fever did for him, and for my brother Robin. Owen died from a mace that split his head apart, and his friend Jon Pox was hanged for rape." "The War of the Ninepenny Kings?" asked Hyle Hunt. "So they called it, though I never saw a king, nor earned a penny. It was a war, though. That it was."
@aye-jephthahnengimote709
@aye-jephthahnengimote709 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate this!
@BDM276
@BDM276 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. This passage always stuck with me. It's an essential part of the story that the show forgets about. The show is all politics and fantasy. The plight of the common folk is mostly ignored. The things that Arya sees in the riverlands, this part. It really shows that war is ugly. That there are no heroes. There is only evil and cruelty. Wolf, stag, Lion. Dragon. All the same. War is ugly and people suffer.
@coonplatoon
@coonplatoon 11 ай бұрын
​@@BDM276honestly that was probably my favorite part in the story. Aside from the north of the wall stories.
@jjodonnell100
@jjodonnell100 11 ай бұрын
This is exactly why even the "good guys" in this story aren't really good guys. They're still causing this
@falynoliver81
@falynoliver81 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I haven’t read the books yet and I love that if only for a moment I was lost in them and could see this scene unfolding from how well this speech is written
@bigmike2464
@bigmike2464 10 ай бұрын
Ian McShane not being allowed to do that speech is a crime
@Losrandir
@Losrandir 9 ай бұрын
A crime against art and humanity
@tbuckley2031
@tbuckley2031 9 ай бұрын
They literally picked the one guy who can say anything and it hits like a Mac truck
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 8 ай бұрын
“There’s no word in Elvish, Entish or the tongues of men for this treachery”
@powertrip25
@powertrip25 7 ай бұрын
He kinda did it in the special lore features in the dvds
@thedemocraticfilipino6417
@thedemocraticfilipino6417 5 ай бұрын
Its on youtube
@sleepingbee8997
@sleepingbee8997 11 ай бұрын
Probably one of the most poignant moments in the books, and one of the clearest thematic statements.
@justbigstepbro9167
@justbigstepbro9167 10 ай бұрын
Poor men go to fight the rich man’s war.
@lol_youre_mad
@lol_youre_mad 10 ай бұрын
this speech highlighted how women are often the unfortunate subjects to men's "inner turmoil's", it's really all a violent cycle and projection. the broken men losing everything and feeling lesser than by "the wheel" so they take it out on women to "feel more manly" but they'd never take their grievances with other men. so sad and wrong but so true,
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting bc GRRM also shows us the flip side of that with the glory and righteous of war. He gives multiple perspectives
@Aphelia.
@Aphelia. 9 ай бұрын
hello sleeping bee I love your profile. what a cute bee
@JeffPenaify
@JeffPenaify 9 ай бұрын
@@MrFredsttyeah to me a great fiction writer leaves much up to interpretation, not hamfist their worldview in a paper world thats never challenged
@maarekstele2998
@maarekstele2998 10 ай бұрын
"can't have a lesser character say such a good line" dnd probably.
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 8 ай бұрын
The “lesser” character is played by Ian McShane...
@park_rat_matt
@park_rat_matt 5 ай бұрын
​@@ChadKakashi whoooosh
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 4 ай бұрын
It's not a woooosh at all. He's implying that they didn't think of the character as lesser, otherwise why would they cast Ian McShane??? He's one of the most well known actors on the show
@jameslarkin2059
@jameslarkin2059 4 ай бұрын
@@HugoStiglitz88 And one of the finest, I absolutely love the guy in anything he does. So fucking good at delivering speeches
@vertiac
@vertiac 11 ай бұрын
I contend that the greatest speech from the books left out of the show was Doran Martell telling the Sand Snakes of his real plan against the Lanisters. "Your father was a snake. I am the grass. People think nothing to tread upon the grass, but it is the grass that hides the snake, allows it slowly and silently get close to it's prey, and then strike like lightning. That is the kind of snakes I need you to be now." It was so chilling. Totally changes how we view the character.
@SennaHawx
@SennaHawx 10 ай бұрын
"Uncle. We're Sand Snakes, not Gras snakes."
@twilitezn
@twilitezn 10 ай бұрын
I DESPISE what the show runners did to Doran…🤬
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 10 ай бұрын
What the show did to Dorn was almost worse than the final season
@vertiac
@vertiac 10 ай бұрын
@@BlazingOwnager To be fair that speech was the only good moment in the original Dorne storyline. In the books the fan favorite sand snakes are preemptively arrested, and Arrienne Martell's plot to make Myrcella queen is over before it starts. At least the show gave us some decent fight scenes and Tyene's tits.
@Neil-qg9cw
@Neil-qg9cw 10 ай бұрын
​@vertiac There is value in a red herring in the overall story. Dorne could have kept the show somewhat intriguing if it wasn't butchered. Even where the books are currently it seems like Dorne may yet have its moment in the sun. Plus the Quentyn arc is cool with Patchface and all that, I'd rather that and evil Tyrian than what we got - Tyrian meandering around Essos being a good little boy and making the dumbest decisions possible, oh and he has a hard on for Dany 🙄
@joshuabowen6919
@joshuabowen6919 11 ай бұрын
Naw. Euron speech about being godless is the best from the books. "Who knows more gods than I? Horse gods and Fire gods, gods made of gold with gemstone eyes, gods carved from cedar wood, gods chiseled into the sides of mountains, gods of empty air...I know them all. I have seen their peoples garland them with flowers and shed blood of goats and bulls and children in their name. And I have heard their prayers, in half a hundred tongues, cure my withered leg, make the maiden love me, grant me a healthy son. Save me, succor me, make me wealthy... protect me. Protect me from mine enemies, protect me from the darkness, protect me from the crabs in my belly, from the horselords, from the slavers, from the sell swords at my door. Protect me from the Silence" He laughed. " Godless? Why, Aeron, I am the godliest man to ever raise a sail. You serve one god, Damphair, but I have served ten thousand. From Ib to Asshai, when men see my sails, they pray."
@yuushamenma2130
@yuushamenma2130 10 ай бұрын
Damn book Euron was a force beyond nature. There was so much rich content in the Greyjoy plotlines and great characters already written and they decide to use more effort to produce something worse
@joshuabowen6919
@joshuabowen6919 10 ай бұрын
@@yuushamenma2130 this is the best monologue in the books hands down
@jons5478
@jons5478 4 ай бұрын
Show Euron: "Me sex man, me fuck the Queen!"
@Nenernener123
@Nenernener123 11 ай бұрын
D&D chose Cleganebowl instead of diving into these stories
@daishan1234
@daishan1234 10 ай бұрын
their version of cleganebowl sucked, too
@bald_lightning
@bald_lightning 8 ай бұрын
Even the term “cleganebowl” summarises everything I hate about what GOT became
@justdirt
@justdirt 11 ай бұрын
The books have a lot of anti-war themes in them, but this whole chapter in Feast was George essentially writing poetry in the middle of his book to show off the theme unambiguously
@JoeMama-dy6op
@JoeMama-dy6op 10 ай бұрын
Makes sense. George Martin was too scared to fight in Vietnam, so he coped by making speeches like this. Though not exactly applicable since our troops always knew they fought for America against the commies. And the only folks who disrespected them for it back home were democrat hippies.
@dcluvspie5777
@dcluvspie5777 4 ай бұрын
Yea Martin was a Vietnam war protester he hates war...
@roycewasik1007
@roycewasik1007 3 ай бұрын
AFFC Brienne V is easily my favorite chapter in the entire series for this reason. It’s a sudden change to a beautiful yet heartbreaking story. A true reality check in a story in which readers often overlook the themes of the smallfolk suffering due to their lords ambitions.
@LittleHammer_
@LittleHammer_ 11 ай бұрын
Easily the best dialogue written in the saga. Amazing depth and emotion written into that speech.
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 8 ай бұрын
I mean... it’s just a guy telling his story. The emotion’s definitely there and the “depth” is that he was talking from experience.
@colinnewby2185
@colinnewby2185 2 ай бұрын
@@ChadKakashi yes but it was written by an old man from New Jersey. So having said that, he pulled insane emotion and detail of trials and tribulations of the small folk into a fantasy speech so it’s impressive
@jasonphoenix292
@jasonphoenix292 11 ай бұрын
It is found on the DVD. Ian McShane delivers the lines and its done on a animation background. I believe I also saw it on KZbin a while back.
@postmodernmining
@postmodernmining 10 ай бұрын
A powerful presence was taken to the next plane.
@antoniocarro4879
@antoniocarro4879 10 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJiXiZtpp9dsfNE
@sodaandcookies1
@sodaandcookies1 9 ай бұрын
I was about to say that, it’s one of my favorite narrations on the dvd extras
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 11 ай бұрын
Fighting for a lord that wouldn't even remember they exist. Like good old "all for joffery" guy and so on
@Hedgeknight420
@Hedgeknight420 9 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the current qmerican government, they don’t even know the names of the people they’re stealing from 😅
@Basileus1453
@Basileus1453 9 ай бұрын
​@@Hedgeknight420 no government ever has ever known the names of the people they tax what are you talking about
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 8 ай бұрын
@@Basileus1453they have the names. It’s all recorded. And they seem to know my name very well when I don’t pay my taxes.
@Basileus1453
@Basileus1453 8 ай бұрын
@@ChadKakashi Yeah what was I talking about. I am so blatantly wrong and I genuinely don't know what I was going on about.
@zxspeccy48k
@zxspeccy48k 8 ай бұрын
Stannis Baratheon: "...hanged..."
@jacopoabbruscato9271
@jacopoabbruscato9271 10 ай бұрын
Imagine having Ian McShane playing the role and cutting out such a great dialogue.
@Losrandir
@Losrandir 9 ай бұрын
Gold handed to you and you toss it in the toilet
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking
@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking 9 ай бұрын
_I want to know what Al Swearengen has to say about this!_
@movieloverfan18
@movieloverfan18 11 ай бұрын
Yes the broken man speech was brilliant. I also loved the one about the north will have revenge given by Lord Manderly. I miss the complexity of Litterfingers plots, the Aegon subplot which was the only thing that made Varys’ actions make sense. Also was so looking forward to Lady Stone heart and the Frey civil war
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 8 ай бұрын
I really hate Varys now. He was one of my favorite characters back when I thought he was working for the good of the realm. After he killed Kevan in the books that was it for me.
@movieloverfan18
@movieloverfan18 8 ай бұрын
@@ChadKakashi Varys knew how to show compassion, but he was scarred by his past and has an agenda of his own. He was the one who persuaded Aerys to go to the Tournament at Harrenhall where Rhaegar was trying to get himself named regent, because Aerys was erratic, which would have brought stable government and stopped Robert’s Rebellion. And Varys sent the assassin to kill Dany. That was planned to enrage Drogo to invade quicker ( with Littlefinger getting the Lannisters and Starks at each other’s throats, he told Illyrio in scene witnessed by Arya under the Red Keep that they needed to speed up their plans). Viserys and the Dothraki were to invade and make the civil war worse for when Aegon arrived. Seriously, who would think that bringing crazy Viserys with a horde of Dothraki raiders and slavers to Westeroswas a good thing. Illyrio in the books said how surprised they were that Dany survived and gained power as they had expected her to die. Varys was in a lot of ways just like Littlefinger, he wanted Chaos as a ladder.
@jeanpaulsinatra
@jeanpaulsinatra 8 ай бұрын
It was a crying shame to cut Based Wyman from the show, and an even bigger shame when they could have cast Brian Blessed. I wanna see the Blessed one going full Jolly Fatman while serving pies made of human flesh
@movieloverfan18
@movieloverfan18 8 ай бұрын
@@jeanpaulsinatra Yes the Frey pies is a very popular theory. We will get Winds of Winter some day . GRRM keeps saying it is almost done.
@samkar2212
@samkar2212 11 ай бұрын
They didn’t adapt much of the books for season 5 onwards. Cuz they ran out of book. But the reason they ran out was because they left out important storylines like LSH, Faegon, the iron borne and arriane
@ArdoBlueMoon
@ArdoBlueMoon 11 ай бұрын
They also omitted Stannis rallying the North and marching on Winterfell.
@chrisrubin6445
@chrisrubin6445 11 ай бұрын
Easy to run out of book when you cut out half the plot lines starting with book 2!
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 10 ай бұрын
@@chrisrubin6445 Yeah, exactly - they didn't 'run out of material'- they poorly adapted what they had; I'm not a 💯% purist (more like 89-95%, lol)- I know there will always be things that won't/ can't be adapted, for practical & realistic reasons (NOT sh*ts & giggles) - however- the fun little thing to note with film being a different medium to book; the film can show in _seconds_ & minutes what takes paragraphs & pages of description to convey - leave the visuals to the set decorators & costume designers & armourers- you know, the people who are trained for it, & focus on the scenes & dialogue. Had Dumbarse & Dipsh*t, & their yes-man taken more than the time it takes to drink a Diet Coke to think about plot & character progression, the series might not have ended up run into the ground, with people ignoring the warning signs- that were there *from the start* ...
@wawawuu1514
@wawawuu1514 10 ай бұрын
@@OcarinaSapphr- "the warning signs- that were there from the start ..." Which signs were those? Now I'm really curious.
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 10 ай бұрын
@@wawawuu1514 The fact that the pilot had to be re-shot, might be a big one- but there were others, that have started to surface...
@sebastiantrias1529
@sebastiantrias1529 11 ай бұрын
I remeber that speech when I read it, almost cried.
@realbabyeater
@realbabyeater 11 ай бұрын
I read it on the train and I was sitting there like :''''')
@6tiple6ix6afia
@6tiple6ix6afia 10 ай бұрын
@lordbalthosadinferni4384 absolutely. Im 36 and have lived in VA programs since i returned from Japan in 2021. I finished off my "career" and stayed in Japan from 2014-2021 with my wife (Japanese) but it was a nightmare. Couldn't stop the drinking and constantly having panic attacks and getting angry and depressed off and on. My wife is waiting for me to finally get us a house so she can move to America but im too scared that ill never be ready to bring her here safely. Gotta protect her from me.
@jeanpaulsinatra
@jeanpaulsinatra 8 ай бұрын
Likewise. Except I was stuck in traffic at work
@afaultytoaster
@afaultytoaster 9 ай бұрын
"Ser? My lady?" said Podrick. "Is a wrap a sandwich?"
@matthewgooding5899
@matthewgooding5899 7 ай бұрын
😂
@storieswetell8013
@storieswetell8013 11 ай бұрын
Was truly one of he most beautiful dialogues in the books..... Infact one of the moat beautiful dialogues ever written.
@kartiks33
@kartiks33 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! This speech is the soul of the series, and arguably what elevates these books from the very good to the great! Such a disappointment that the makers omitted this speech for a few swear words and graphic violence which was not part of the original book scene,
@the98themperoroftheholybri33
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 10 ай бұрын
I liked when Podrick asked him (I think) if the silent sisters had their tongues removed to ensure they couldn't speak. The septon laughed and said something along the lines of "of course they can speak, but they took a vow to never speak, removing their tongue would be as meaningless as a blind man taking a vow to never see again"
@rat9041
@rat9041 5 ай бұрын
the show is literally allergic to the nuance the book had abt anything
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 10 ай бұрын
The Broken Man speech - Doran's revelation - Lord Manderley's 'Mummer's Farce' speech to Davos - Bloodraven's 'Ghosts' monologue to Bran - Maester Aemon's revelation to Jon - Ser Barristan's f*ck your retirement plan-speech; there are so many brilliant, moving, or powerful monologues...
@jurepec5779
@jurepec5779 10 ай бұрын
What was ser Barristan's speech about, I don't remember that one
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 10 ай бұрын
@@jurepec5779 The Crown tried to 'retire' Barristan- he protested that the Kingsguard is for life, & when Cersei & Joffrey insinuated his age was a problem- he also got angry at their decision to elevate Jaime to Lord Commander, & Varys' offer of 'a hall to die in- & men to bury me', & drew his sword faster than any of the Kingsguard - basically said they sucked & would be useless at protecting Joffrey. Funnily enough, BookJaime had a not entirely dissimilar speech/ internal monologue- not about retiring from the Kingsguard, but about its' quality- compared to the men he served with in his youth; other than Barristan {the only other surviving original Kingsguard} only two men were 'worthy' in Jaime's opinion; Arys Oakheart & Balon Swann, & he grudgingly admits Loras has potential...
@davidlindsey5363
@davidlindsey5363 8 ай бұрын
I love Septon Maribold in the books man. He's such a humble nice dude in the middle of all the shit that's going on in the world.
@jacoenglander9608
@jacoenglander9608 8 ай бұрын
I remember reading this to a friend. This speech alone got them to read the series
@cald1421
@cald1421 10 ай бұрын
“War makes murderers of otherwise decent people. All wars. And all decent people.” -Ben Ferencz, longest living Nuremberg prosecutor
@teppo9585
@teppo9585 5 ай бұрын
And this applies to the judiciary class also.
@thecockerel86
@thecockerel86 11 ай бұрын
A Feast For Crows is my favourite of the five books. Septon Meribald's Broken Man Speech is big part of the reason why.
@marcchenier7141
@marcchenier7141 4 ай бұрын
So glad to see a vid on this passage from A Feast For Crows. It really mad an impression on me when I read it. So much so that I put the book down and thought about what I had just read.
@Ironcorgi2
@Ironcorgi2 11 ай бұрын
I think while the books are very much against warfare and the violence that usually is afflicted to the poor the show really glorifies violence because that is what seems to sell well. Stuff like Arya feeding the Freys their children are treated as things to be celebrated but in the books when wyman manderly does it it is kind of uneasy (especially cause he knowingly eats the meat pie too)
@cpurssey982
@cpurssey982 9 ай бұрын
Hanged not hung 😂. Just broke the whole message for me lol.
@rorygillmore6555
@rorygillmore6555 6 ай бұрын
That's when they started spending through the show and we got less and less episodes and less and less context and character building. The only good thing that show did was not kill the hound when GRRM did. But then they gave him a crappy death anyways, so that was wasted too. Goes to show how GRRM thought he could keep up with the TV show while the TV show just wanted to pump it out as quickly as possible for the money. But that wasn't smart because I haven't wasted a single cent on HBO garbage since, but I've bought every GRRM book since so I can have a proper story.
@jbkeebs
@jbkeebs 5 ай бұрын
The hound is alive in the books haha
@ryankasch5561
@ryankasch5561 11 ай бұрын
They did include a shortened version of it in the dvd extras for one of the seasons of the show. I really like it as the guys who voices him is really good at telling the story
@scottn1019
@scottn1019 10 ай бұрын
Ian McShane
@antoniocarro4879
@antoniocarro4879 10 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJiXiZtpp9dsfNE
@dawsongentry7938
@dawsongentry7938 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t know he was friends with Athelstan😂
@danielfox9461
@danielfox9461 9 ай бұрын
"the war of the nine penny kings?" "Well they never paid me so much as a penny, and I never did see no kings. But it was a war, it was that.". Def one of the better scenes of that book.
@daffygoose4757
@daffygoose4757 11 ай бұрын
the show cut out 80% of all the cool shit from the books and i’m still angry at it
@TheMandaloreFett
@TheMandaloreFett 9 ай бұрын
Seriously, I got into the lore. Books will always be better.
@glitterishhh
@glitterishhh 11 ай бұрын
the episode was called "the broken man," and he gave a very similar speech to sandor (who was himself a broken man)
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 11 ай бұрын
They cut it from the show but it did somehow made it into the Blueray extras methinks.
@erickruckenberg8716
@erickruckenberg8716 11 ай бұрын
Then he reincarnated in another world where he helped the Boogey Man avenge his family and find peace.
@SquagelZ
@SquagelZ 9 ай бұрын
And just imagine how amazing this speech would be from a phenom actor like Ian McShane.
@corystovall3544
@corystovall3544 8 ай бұрын
Later he would run a fine establishment known as "The Gem Saloon."
@greenman6141
@greenman6141 10 ай бұрын
It was a really excellent piece of writing. Glad you are talking about it. One thing. People are "hanged" not "hung". Think "Hanging Tree" Not "hunging tree". That makes it easier to remember.
@spacekitt.n
@spacekitt.n 10 ай бұрын
ian mcshane was painfully underused. hes so great
@jimeno726
@jimeno726 11 ай бұрын
GRRM’s novels honestly made me question war. I understand it’s never going away, but it should be avoided at all cost. Though he romanticized it, he also shows how it deeply affects the poor and vulnerable… and no one cares. They only care about the rich and power and their suffering. They seek and get justice, the poor will never get that justice.
@morrigan9328
@morrigan9328 5 ай бұрын
I think the greatest speech was Ellarias on Vengeance: Oberyn wanted vengeance for Elia. Now the three of you want vengeance for him. I have four daughters, I remind you. Your sisters. My Elia is fourteen, almost a woman. Obella is twelve, on the brink of maidenhood. They worship you, as Dorea and Loreza worship them. If you should die, must El and Obella seek vengeance for you, then Dorea and Loree for them? Is that how it goes, round and round forever? I ask again, where does it end?" Ellaria Sand laid her hand on the Mountain's head. "I saw your father die. Here is his killer. Can I take a skull to bed with me, to give me comfort in the night? Will it make me laugh, write me songs, care for me when I am old and sick? That not being in the show is a crime!!
@frognibbler
@frognibbler 7 ай бұрын
Septa is the term for a woman of the faith, Septon is the correct term which should have been used here
@Braziliansyrah
@Braziliansyrah 5 ай бұрын
I put his statement in my thesis, and my thesis has nothing to do with Game of thrones 😂
@tricwriterr
@tricwriterr 11 ай бұрын
Hugo Bick Bucket Wull's speech during the march was the best one for me, oh wait they left that out too
@ultrabumblebee
@ultrabumblebee 9 ай бұрын
Love the detail to this. So much about the world of the story, one of the reasons I adore Berserk too. A world full of painful, massive stories and at the same time painful, wonderful, heartbreaking or even angering stories. I can only really imagine myself as a 3rd person character. Seeing events in the book from outside the core of it all.
@giacomoromano8842
@giacomoromano8842 10 ай бұрын
People always think me crazy when i name ASOIAF a series of book that promote pacifism and a anti-war theme.
@mettinkaytaz6106
@mettinkaytaz6106 11 ай бұрын
Everytime i see Ian Mcshane i just think Al Swerengin in Deadwood - AWESOME SHOW 👌 👏 👍
@bonbonvegabon
@bonbonvegabon 11 ай бұрын
Loved Brother Rays performance. What a handsome man.
@seanfisher985
@seanfisher985 9 ай бұрын
It’s hanged, not hung, it’s a surprisingly big difference
@robertmatch6550
@robertmatch6550 9 ай бұрын
I'm very happy Ian McShane showed up in GOT. He gave it that much more grace and depth.
@robertmaxwell1016
@robertmaxwell1016 2 ай бұрын
Seems a common theme in Hollywood, to butcher the source material. LOTR, The Hobbit, Percy Jackson, The Vampire's Apprentice as well as A Song of Ice and Fire. I know there are more, but if I were to include them the list wouldn't stop lol
@myrialynn
@myrialynn 2 ай бұрын
Agreed!! That's one of my favorite quotes from the novels!
@CadaverJunky8
@CadaverJunky8 4 ай бұрын
This is around the time D&D stopped giving a damn, so yeah, makes sense they'd leave it out.
@CD-kg9by
@CD-kg9by 7 ай бұрын
Its in the "history and lore" audiobook thingies that came with every season. Good stuff.
@digitalbear1217
@digitalbear1217 8 ай бұрын
One of my favorite chapters of any book I've ever read. Martin is so good at writing the politics and intrigue, but then you get a scene like this that's so exquisitely written, and it makes the whole world feel so real and lived-in
@eddyb1596
@eddyb1596 8 ай бұрын
Such a wasted opportunity. Could you imagine Ian McShane giving that speech? That would've been inspiring.
@steshka1015
@steshka1015 11 ай бұрын
Saddest story, still applicable and relevant to our present times. For the GOT world, the power game itself is a pity compared to the life of small people 😢
@evanunderhill2342
@evanunderhill2342 10 ай бұрын
my all time favorite quote from the books. the first time i read a feast for crows i just kept coming back to that passage because it was so well written.
@stanley9334
@stanley9334 9 ай бұрын
Laundry is "hung" people are "hanged"
@frankg2790
@frankg2790 9 ай бұрын
To play Devil's advocate, this was in Season 7. Season 5 was the last season that actually tried to adapt the books.
@ricardotapiabasurto2091
@ricardotapiabasurto2091 9 ай бұрын
That speech was included in one of the clips of the Histories of Lore, in the additional material on the DVDs
@paireon3419
@paireon3419 11 ай бұрын
Basically, PTSD.
@Ligierthegreensun
@Ligierthegreensun 10 ай бұрын
“Imagine a king who fought his own battles. Wouldn’t that be a sight.”
@MindlessTurtle
@MindlessTurtle 10 ай бұрын
It really was the best. Of all the dialogue in all the books, that speech is the one I remember the most. Comes out of nowhere and hits really hard.
@Harmthuria
@Harmthuria 9 ай бұрын
His friend was HANGED, not hung.
@annie-sc
@annie-sc 11 ай бұрын
I literally cried when I read this and am now crying again
@memomyj4505
@memomyj4505 11 ай бұрын
can u explain
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 11 ай бұрын
they retold this in short stories in the series.
@twanlenaerts1512
@twanlenaerts1512 11 ай бұрын
And it's one of the best
@michellecross700
@michellecross700 8 ай бұрын
This speech had me in tears
@HankMardukis65
@HankMardukis65 Ай бұрын
Maribald is one of my favorite minor characters in the whole series. In the short time with Brienne and Pod, he conveys so many messages about the whole story.
@kennethbryant5819
@kennethbryant5819 8 ай бұрын
Hire possibly the greatest actor to ever be on show and cut his character's great monologue. Classic D&D.
@jay_ds4800
@jay_ds4800 11 ай бұрын
Great speech, like it in general. But with context I liked the promise speech and the last winter speech
@Kwasimitsu
@Kwasimitsu 10 ай бұрын
The fact that they left it out, speaks volumes.
@realrembrandt8273
@realrembrandt8273 10 ай бұрын
Ian McShane is a legend!
@ricardochapa
@ricardochapa 11 ай бұрын
Love your shorts..! What song is in the backround?
@powertrip25
@powertrip25 7 ай бұрын
He gave this story on the special features in the GOT history and lore on the DVDs
@bimboadesoye4894
@bimboadesoye4894 10 ай бұрын
This monologue in the book was absolutely incredible.
@Lemmy1-2roadcrew
@Lemmy1-2roadcrew 9 ай бұрын
Is that blackbeard from pirates of the caribbean?
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 10 ай бұрын
Ian McShane single-handedly elevates all sorts of otherwise dreary and tedious productions. Give him something well-written and well-produced and he’ll elevate it to rarefied altitudes.
@albdamned577
@albdamned577 2 ай бұрын
cant have a death match with the man repenting for death...
@lottoguy6457
@lottoguy6457 2 ай бұрын
Truly great chapter in the book. Has a dog named dog. His understanding of the gods and life is beautiful.
@AkivaMerkavah
@AkivaMerkavah 9 ай бұрын
George really is a very talented writer. It can be easy to lose sight of this amid all the conflict around the show.
@ahmadsultan4643
@ahmadsultan4643 6 ай бұрын
Wayman Mandarly speach was fire , the whole northern plot was fire
@nathanwhite2689
@nathanwhite2689 10 ай бұрын
You can listen to it as one of the readings from the actor himself of how he was thrown into war. It's sad.
@christophergirardi8145
@christophergirardi8145 11 ай бұрын
Which war did the septon fight in? The Ninepenny King's or Lyonel Baratheon's Rebellion?
@heyitsmira17
@heyitsmira17 11 ай бұрын
Ninepenny
@jeanpaulsinatra
@jeanpaulsinatra 8 ай бұрын
Love how they teased Ian McShane as Euron and then it turned out he was playing the exact opposite of Euron.
@antoniopizarro7670
@antoniopizarro7670 10 ай бұрын
I will never cease to be amazed at the level of complexity and detail with rich histories Martin created for this world, but how the ending was so miserably bad.
@cjshaw3875
@cjshaw3875 9 ай бұрын
What chapter of AFFC is this?
@Mexican_Jedi
@Mexican_Jedi Күн бұрын
The Broken man's friend was hanged. He's not a painting.
@Mr_Flerb
@Mr_Flerb 10 ай бұрын
That is a weird place to put the question mark.
@JenAngel21
@JenAngel21 2 ай бұрын
Are there illustrated versions of the books?
@johnhein2539
@johnhein2539 11 ай бұрын
*Hanged Is the technical term for a hanging
@RavenLunacy44
@RavenLunacy44 6 ай бұрын
I loved his character.
@Ateisthortlak
@Ateisthortlak 9 ай бұрын
Name of the song?
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 2 ай бұрын
The fact that they left this out, tells you everything you need to know about Dan and Dave
@Gunleaver
@Gunleaver 4 ай бұрын
The show writers probably didn't even recognize the quality of the speech and thought their iconoclasm and ironic deconstructions were an improvement.
@Grenadier311
@Grenadier311 3 ай бұрын
The smallfolk sure do have it rough in Westeros. I wish GRRM would have written POV chapters featuring them.
@CorvoThan
@CorvoThan 2 ай бұрын
i think that is one of the most significant lines in the books.
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