Why Governments Won't Act On Climate Change

[@SecondThought]

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[@Newsoul9]

I completely agree 👍🏽 we need a 3rd party

[@lau9076]

Fun fact,the bigges contaminator in the world is China,and the greatest country in combating polition is greenland. Liberal democracies are superior in handling climate change than communist countries

[@joshmayetballoon3103]

regional pricing!

[@tubebility]

That clicking noise... ugh! 🦗😐🦗

[@xXherbal1stXx]

hi! thanks for your work! did you look into 'accelerationsim'? seems like a lot of those in charge are fine with it.. 🤔

[@TheCarouselCowboy]

“Yes, the planet got destroyed, but for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders”

[@kevincrady2831]

Like Mad Max said to Imperator Furiosa, "Sure, but for awhile there, the Dow was really soaring!"

[@breadconsumer9320]

The three triagons will be appeased. Stay on your CEO mindset.

[@reneevandeventer4842]

just consider: "if you enjoy A/C, you are NOT GREEN"

[@thankargis]

@@reneevandeventer4842 and?

[@nikitaw1982]

Rebates for all the solar panels r what? Some how support oil and gas?

[@ReesCatOphuls]

9:30 “We’ll go down in history as the first society that wouldn't save itself because it wasn't cost effective.” - Kurt Vonnegut

[@ultimatewinfestation7194]

If humanity somehow survived, I hope they learn from our mistakes and not let an imaginary number dictate how valuable everything is around them.

[@Zman01]

I’m actually writing an essay for school about how the film 2081 is different from Vonnegut’s story “Harrison Bergeron”

[@DanielKolbin]

Oof

[@TheSucram729]

@@SageWon-1aussieno certainty but as far as we know we’re the only species that is actively causing its own extinction

[@BM1982.V2]

​@TheSucram729 one other species caused a mass extinction event. When cyanobacteria first came about they produced so much oxygen at a time when there was almost no oxygen in the atmosphere. It killed many species that oxygen was poison to and then caused snowball earth that killed even more species. But I mean, they didn't have brains so weren't aware they were doing this so couldn't be faulted for not stopping it. We are the first species that is actively and purposely with the ability to stop it causing a mass extinction. I also don't think we would go extinct. We'd just kill so many other species that humans will just survive in small pockets of hundreds in tribal groups. Humans are very adaptable and even in the worst scenario I think many will survive still. Will just cause billions to starve and suffer in the process.

[@final_catalyst]

That united health CEO is an example of what happens when a citizen shows what a "discounted" person is actually worth when taking it into their own hands

[@final_catalyst]

@TheHoonShow when answering an "or" question "yes" can mean agreement with either or both statements. Yes

[@chlorobyte]

@@TheHoonShow Have you even watched the video? Declaring that your life is not worth making an effort to save is the barbaric action here.

[@PincheGuey-gc2or]

@@TheHoonShowit’s not that they don’t take care of people, it’s that they take advantage of people. I support the rule of law but if the game is rigged then anything goes.

[@asagoldsmith3328]

Lmao "if the rich don't take care of them" what a joke. No people are sick of the rich extracting wealth from the poor domestically and globally- for their own benefit- through exploitative and oppressive systems.

[@Sword-jo2lu]

@@TheHoonShow That is the most neolib response I've ever seen. We've tried voting, we need direct action. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~John F. Kennedy

[@mooncalf191]

When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, and the last stream poisoned, only then will we realize we cannot eat money.

[@cheese7119]

Wow that's incredible, imma steal this quote now

[@mooncalf191]

@@cheese7119 I think It's an old proverb, possibly Cree.

[@moffichu9150]

isn't USD made out of some sort of cotton? you could probably do some chemical processes to take out the ink - I don't think that's sustainable for very long though lol, just a random funny thought. like technically ... they could eat money

[@cooldude2794]

and whenever that happens make sure to blame the logistics guy.

[@stargazer-elite]

“When the last tree is cut down” DID THE LORAX TEACH PEOPLE NOTHING!? Thanks for reminding me that the message of protecting the environment has been here for decades now I realize how stupid our species is

[@Yura135]

The irony is that preventing climate change IS investigating into the future, while producing fossil fuels and handing out profits is borrowing from the future.

[@JuliaH-c6f]

More like stealing.

[@warpedwhimsical]

They know they aren’t going to live forever. These people are actually fine with fucking over billions of future humans so they can have a rich cozy life and die comfortably before shit hits the fan

[@JoyMDors86]

@@JuliaH-c6f You are right about that

[@DarkNia64]

Because money spent on tomorrow is money not spent on themselves.

[@lapanthanim]

Or their backers/lobbyists, in particular.

[@Nathanatos22]

I’m always confused when a watch a well-researched video, go to the comments, and see half of those comments are a reply to the title. Please stop doing that.

[@TheZombieButler]

Or better yet shoved in a tax haven somewhere. I mean how many vacation homes do you need..

[@Onionbaron]

Francis Bacon Quote: If money be not thy servant, it will be thy master

[@Monasaurus_Rex]

I’ll never understand why they insist on focusing on short term profit instead of long term

[@eyyy2271]

Deny. Defend. Depose. We must continue fighting back

[@eyyy2271]

@@SimGunther I can only hope what happened to the ceo is the beginning of the working class fighting back in this class war.

[@Reggie-zw8rm]

delete!

[@chernobyl169]

@@eyyy2271 There are two paths forward: revolt, or martial law.

[@eyyy2271]

@@Reggie-zw8rm delete what?

[@gjay4532]

you arent fighting jack buddy but keep acting tough on the internet LOL

[@tyrekeharrison9350]

When the government puts a price tag on your life you put a timer on theirs

[@turkizno]

and there is the question.. when does the time come when "we" can sue our governments for how their inaction is impacting us, based on the same logic like the oil companies and investors?

[@super8mate]

@@turkiznooh, you get to vote them out of office 🙄

[@LilLou97]

@@super8matevoting doesn’t work anymore, we have to take matters into our own hands if we want change. I mean just ask Brian Thompson. Oh wait lol 😂

[@pingpong607]

​@@super8mateAnd vote for who? If you're in a country entrenched in a 2 party system... both sides are typically ineffective against climate inactive.

[@eyespy3001]

@@LilLou97That’s quite the opposite of a Socialist society, though. A socialist society relies on government, since government is (supposed to be) by the people and for the people. The point is, government is not inherently bad. In fact, it was set up to do the most good. The “bad” is how we, as a nation and as citizens, decided to be more hands-off with our government, creating a vacuum for profiteering snakes to make their way in and exert their influence (💸). Post-WWII, the American public was so giddy with how the government took control and saved the day (SO. MUCH. PROPAGNDA…) that they basically said, “yeah, go ahead and do whatever it takes and just keep doing what you do as long as we get all the comforts and security we need.” Then we got the Korean War (a war on opposing ideologies), and the Vietnam War (a covert resource war disguised as an ideology war). From there, the silent civil war of the ruling class versus the working class began here on American soil, with Reagan as the five-star general presiding over it all. As a nation, we need to, well, first close the divide amongst us. That means tuning out all the propaganda and manufactured outrage. We need to stop letting these black mirrors in our hands and in front of our eyes dictate our feelings. We need to actually be kind to our neighbors, even if they have opposing viewpoints that their little black mirror told them they should have. That’s how you close the gap and realize that most of our needs are the same. Once we’re mostly on the same page, then we use technology to restructure our democracy. We can no longer rely on proxies who we have never met to represent us in the governing of our lives. A shift from a representative democracy to a direct democracy, where WE vote on issues directly and get to choose where our tax dollars go, is the only way forward.

[@j.martinez8282]

And this, my fellow Americans, is what happens when you "run government like a business".

[@Ok.768]

Trump is (already)doing that right now

[@Cobalt985]

@@Ok.768 Trump is really bad news, but you know he isn't in power yet right? You're still living in Joe Biden's America

[@8Lemon_Sour8]

​@@Ok.768Both side are but Democrats take the most of the cake.

[@AllKings]

It's what happens when you let business run the government.

[@Ok.768]

@@8Lemon_Sour8 true

[@justkittensbeingkittens5892]

The irony that I get “far left” on political tests bc I believe in climate change.

[@almightysapling]

That tells me more about the person that made the test.

[@erkinalp]

i get "social democrat" to Chomsky-type communist

[@X_w45ey89]

You don't just believe in climate change, you see the evidence.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

@@erkinalp 'Chomsky-type communist' is an oxymoron.

[@mrdeanvincent]

​@@erkinalp Wtf does "Chomsky-type communist" mean? That's nonsense.

[@CharlesTysonYerkesOfficial]

Bringing down the discount rate from 3% to 2% is the classic Centrist/Center-Right stance of "We did something to make a bad thing ever so slightly less worse."

[@asagoldsmith3328]

But at least we're not the other guys!

[@nettewilson5926]

Exactly

[@nfzeta128]

'Yea, we don't think the future you is *that* much more useless than current people and profits'.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

'Oh why won't you *purists* understand the urgency of 'harm reduction'! (Their typical response.)

[@Icameron259]

To invoke Malcolm X, Centrists are telling us that progress has been made because they pulled out the knife a couple of inches, while those on the Right won't even admit that the knife is there. Nobody in mainstream politics has a plan to actually pull the knife all the way out, much less heal the wound.

[@philcollins5457]

I’ve always heard the phrase “banality of evil,” but seeing the entire reason for why our climate policy is the way it is condensed to a math problem and a bureaucrat going “eh, number too big” is…I don’t have words for it.

[@ultimatewinfestation7194]

Capitalism is an inhumane system at its core. As long as its allow to operate, keeping profits up will be more important than people’s life. Even if it would be the death of our species one day.

[@pexoto5093]

I know right. And they start it all by assuming the worst thing of all: that you can put a price tag on a human life. Like wtf how is this real

[@rayhere7925]

Sick 🤮

[@bornstar481]

@@pexoto5093the ultimate logic of capitalism is always “but how will this increase profits”

[@altrshakib9449]

​@@pexoto5093Actually....A price CAN be put on Human life. Tell me, in a hypothetical case, If sacrificng 1 human being meant that technology and quality of life for all other humans would advance by 50 years, or by NOT sacrificing that human being, All technology would go back to the 1700s. What do you think 99% of humans would choose? Trust me, If you told the average human if they'd let a Human die or lose their Internet, Their cushy lifestyle, their techs, TV, Laundry machines, Elevators, Vehicles etc etc etc. They would almost certainly choose 1 human's death. Its the same equation to a larger scale in case of climate change. Investing 1 Trillion in combatting Climate change, means NOT investing 1 Trillion in combatting Inflation, bridges, roads, economy etc. Most people DO NOT like that. Cuz Humans are made this way. We choose our cushy life, over the death of foreigners we dont know. We choose our cushy life, over the not so cushy life of our 3rd generation decendents.

[@loganlaliberte4511]

As a college student currently studying environmental science, god this is depressing but goddamn it I have to try because someone needs to

[@robertmarmaduke186]

You should switch your major to AI blade farm maintenance. Any white-professional job can be, and is, being offshored to ln'dia already at $200 Billion a year. 'The Science Is Settled!' You are not needed! ln'dia will control Scope 3 auditing ESG Materiality Assessments. _Your 'job' will be to pay their climate reparations._

[@brandonakers9827]

​@@robertmarmaduke186 bluds yappin

[@loganlaliberte4511]

@@robertmarmaduke186 I plan on going into research or becoming a professor after getting either my masters or doctorate. Also i don't think AI blade farm maintenance is a major

[@kingkhrysesxiii5942]

Tons of people are trying, but the government won't let it work, no matter how many of us are against the current situation... They've made it a futile effort for the world at this point. Goodbye future humanity.

[@loganlaliberte4511]

@@kingkhrysesxiii5942 now I absolutely agree with you but if I can potentially slow things down even a little, buy a little bit more breathing room, then it is my moral obligation to try. I know I'm pushing that boulder up a hill but it can never make it to the top if no one pushes.

[@Hablamannen]

So they've arbitrarily decided that the humanity "stock option" is declining by 3% each year. While putting all their eggs in the normal stock market. Literally betting on that humanity will bust.

[@Aima952]

I'm a modeller and analyst by trade, but that application of the discount model still sickens me! Not just on a moral scale but on a mathematical one, they seem to be intentionally forgetting that the benefits of not acting are finite to their term in office but the damages caused will effect humanity for as long as we continue to inhabit earth... which is hopefully where some portion of our population will be until the sun burns enough fuel to change types.

[@acutechicken5798]

Also that making adjustments now is cheaper usually than waiting. For example, cutting carbon emissions quickly now and tapering them off to 0 by, say, 2100, is very different from continuing as is and rapidly dropping carbon emissions right before 2100. In any case, learning about this was very interesting for me as a mathematics student, but also frustrating. It is a complete and utter misuse of statistics and mathematics for the purposes of very short term gains. Likewise, anyone can throw a party financed by a credit card--what happens afterwards, though, is more important.

[@paulschell2712]

Same, accountant and analyst. I'm like, what is with the chosen discount rate? Discounting cash flows back to present value is not the same thing as a life. For real.

[@raghuvarv]

Ah. Second Thought brightens a shitty day with . . . existential dread. Thanks, comrade.

[@SecondThought]

🫡

[@jrstsb1353]

Comforting lies, I'm with you fella, whisper them sweet nothing like I like.

[@Reincarnation-IsReal]

It's all gone be over soon 🎉🎉🎉🥰

[@isaganipalanca8803]

What about demanding that the DEMS and BIDEN man up to SAVE this country NOW by doing a recount and launching an investigation into the election which experts found to have been STOLEN which would only be DUE DILLIGENCE instead of making oneself complicit in the Trump dictatorship by knuckling under to MAGA with malfeasant inaction????? HARRIS WON!!!!! And to the liberal and leftist/progressive media - Instead of indulging in "I told you sos" and gloating ober how Harris lost by failing some inane leftist purity tests, what about ACTUALLY DEFENDING OUR DEMOCRACY, NOW BY DEMANDING A RECOUNT AND INVESTIGATION?????

[@chaticon4961]

​@@ClimateDoomer but the issue is not "our nature." The evidence to the contrary is the fact that we are even talking about this - we do care. There are millions of us who care. Are we not human, then? The problem is that we don't have the political power to translate that into large scale action - action that would certainly still include preventing further damage to the environment in addition to mitigating the suffering caused by the damage we have already dealt. The source of that lack of political power goes right back to our present economic-political system. You bring up COVID, but the difficulties in addressing it that you mention were mostly an issue in the west. Particularly the US, where millions have died as a result of its woefully inadequate approach. Meanwhile, in China, a country with many times the population, the number of deaths has been kept down to on the order of thousands - a miniscule proportion of the population. If the problem is human nature, why do we not see the same failure across all of humanity?

[@keenanarthur8381]

It's kind of ironic how burning dinosaur juice is our primary method of ensuring we go the way of the dinosaurs.

[@dustyclink1468]

Plant and plankton juice*

[@leo_pi]

this needs more likes

[@tonydimauro4334]

More like 350 million year old peat moss

[@nottheone-o6u]

it's not dinosaur juice tho. it's ancient plankton and algae juice

[@moffichu9150]

I think there was a study done a while back about how most oil deposits are from the Cambrian and Ordovician eras. We're burning like weird bug and plant juice instead of dino bones

[@bruhyou4305]

anyone can make up math formulas 1 CEO + 1 small lead ball = a better world

[@kvdrr]

but rarely come up with correct one like you did

[@DanielKolbin]

What if CEOs are just puppets

[@bruhyou4305]

@@DanielKolbin that's an other formula

[@the_travelingbreeze]

Nice pfp!

[@bruhyou4305]

@@the_travelingbreeze thanks lol

[@nitaandersen1154]

I find it scary that asbestos wasn't banned in US until 2024... It was banned here in Denmark in 1986, so almost 40 years ago... Which makes me think of another issue where the two countries have very different views. The idea that fluoride is harmful is considered a conspiracy theory in US, but here in Denmark it is the official government stance that it is harmful and has a negative impact on IQ based on studies. All of this can be found on our government webpage with links to the studies. I am aware that my country has a "better safe than sorry" stance on many health issues. They might be too careful on this one. But we actually test our water to ensure that the natural flouride levels aren't too high. But USA government also has a story of downplaying health risks from government decisions - like nuclear testing, lead pipes, food additives and so on. Admitting that the government added dangerous chemicals to the water supply would be a horrible political move as long as the evidence is not 100% clear.

[@CA999]

Denmark probably has a better media system and citizens more invested, engaged and literate in different issues. Although i get the impression thr Neoliberal economic disease i gradually engulfing the Nordic countries...

[@Ftroll]

Also, slabs made from shavings and wood chips and glue are very harmful and are intended for external decoration or temporary rough construction. Not for interior decoration at all. glass wool - you can’t touch it or breathe when it touches it.

[@christiansawyer9798]

If I remember correctly Jimmy Carter did try to start the preventative actions of climate change and then Reagan came in and stopped it all which is what lead to where we are today.

[@thowl7065]

Yes, that's right. The republicans are slowly killing humanity, have been since at least the eighties, and manipulating the public to do it.

[@stevenmedge3479]

Whatever Carter thought he was doing is totally undone by the fact that HE was the first president who allowed for the neoliberal economists into his cabinet that are responsible for the type of thinking outlined in this video. Reagan inherited those same economic thinkers and simply put their ideology into hyperdrive

[@KaspYAR]

I think... I think Actors shouldn't be allowed to run for office, maybe charismatic leaders aren't a good idea?

[@gianthills]

LO... no. You think climate change would get so much worse in ten years when he earth is a billion years old?

[@christiansawyer9798]

@@gianthills what? First yes it is getting worse but he at least took the first steps to address it. Not sure what your trying to state in your comment

[@luking1181]

How come every time something bad happens it can be traced back to reagan?

[@Briggsian]

He's the nexus being of neoliberalism

[@nickgangone9541]

Legitimately.

[@LorenzoPedretti-h6x]

To my admittedly limited knowledge, corporate power started taking over public policy with the Lewis Powell Memorandum of 1971. Granted, I'm not saying Reagan's influence wasn't catastrophic, but the process as a whole started a bit earlier than in his administration.

[@Briggsian]

@@LorenzoPedretti-h6x Your assessment is correct. Reagan's administration just so happens to coincide with the biggest upswing in support for sweeping neoliberal policy amongst lawmakers. The movement had existed and was gaining traction for a while prior, but became truly mainstream under Reagan.

[@LorenzoPedretti-h6x]

Awareness of the climate crisis among policymakers also dates further back in time than people usually think. The first POTUS to be told by scientists that this was a problem was Lyndon Johnson in 1965. The Guardian wrote about this a few years ago. Think how much things would have changed if we started acting on the problem in time.

[@JohnBrown010]

Insha’Allah that Healthcare insurance industry CEO will be greeting Oil industry CEOs soon

[@mepanther3125]

Amen, comrade.

[@tripwire3992]

People have finally had enough

[@AveragepoliticsEnjoyer]

God himself is in hell especially muslim one

[@SilenzioDiEsistenza]

god willing brother

[@Ninjaananas]

Inshallah we will be freed of this corruption.

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

“Forget the politicians. They’re there to make you think you have a choice. You don’t.” George Carlin

[@angellover02171]

That's stupid.

[@AveragepoliticsEnjoyer]

​@@angellover02171 You're stupid

[@Massangler1856]

I like Carlin, but that's a stupid, defeatist, and useless thought that chooses to take no responsibility for the state of the world.

[@DirtbagLexi]

This is why they're trying to shame us for celebrating Brian Thompson getting the blicky, fuck that lol, we ball.

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

@ I can understand that assumption. His point is that politicians work for the real enemy. Both sides. Voting isn’t going to get us out of this.

[@3snoW_]

6:30 - About the calculation that goes from 1 million dollars to about 22k, I think i can explain it a bit better and without as much math. The base premise is "money now" is worth more than "money later", because if you take the money now and invest it, then it will become more money later. And that's all that calculation is doing. Specifically, if you assume that you can invest money so that it'll grow at 10% interest rate per year, then $22,000 will become $1,000,000 after 40 years - how long it takes someone to die from asbestos - and that's where the 22,000$ comes from. Obviously this is not how we should value our lives, we're talking about people, not investments. And even if this was a valid way to approach this, they used absurd numbers: - 10% growth per year is insane, If you use a much more sensible 5% then people are worth $142k instead of just $22k. - 40 years is the best case scenario, it said people live from 30 to 40 years. Plugging in 30 years instead of 40 makes the value jump from $22k to $57k, using the 5% from earlier you get $231k. Just adjusting these values a bit I got people being worth anywhere from $22k to $231k. They obviously just manipulated the values to look sensible but get the number as low as possible so you can justify not doing anything about it.

[@YanaTanaka-i2x]

Sounds like the equation is not accounting for inflation?? $1 million now does not have the same purchasing power as $1 million in 40 years. 2% discount rate basically cancels the 2% inflation goal of most central banks. There is also a negative discount factor of climate change prevention. A billion ton of co2 removed now is worth more than that removed in 40 years. Seems like, from the video, discounting factors are only applied one way but not the other.

[@carymui3143]

And I thought I couldn’t get any more frustrated about the lack of government action to save humanity

[@QuantumAscension1]

The priorities are just existentially idiotic. Short-term profits over long-term survival as a species. But, why not; the people that have been making the mistakes and choosing not to fix them won't live long enough to feel the consequence and billionaires don't care about the people currently living, why would they ever care about future generations.

[@robertmarmaduke186]

#12:06:02 - Corporate Greed© steals $Billions. Government Thëft steals $TRILLIONS. _You are the Carbon they intend to replace by ln'dia Offshoring!_ that takes $200,000,000,000 in tech jobs out of the US, every year. [crickets] Meta is building a mega-fiber cable from US West and East coasts, straight to Mumbai/Chennai ln'dia. ln'dia will control all Federal government administrative services, including Scope 3 EGS Materiality Assessments. *Your monthly Carbon Tax will go straight to DeIhi, in between rolling blackouts for AI Big Data blade farms, poaching 45% of the grid by 2030. Your EV will be bricked!*

[@uskidsknow19]

My personal theory is that you can't be a billionaire without having some sort of sociopathic or psychopathic qualities, so yeah, they just cannot give a shit

[@1LaOriental]

These "people" are living in the realm of hungry ghosts...

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Oh shut up the world will still go on for centuries

[@itstime9023]

​@truckercowboyed2638 climate change won't stop us as a species but it will definetly get in the way It is after all very easy to kill lots of humans but its almost impossible to kill all of them The whole "stop climate change" is more about our environment surviving along side us as continuing polluting the air with greenhouse gasses might cause irreversible damage to the planets ecosystem

[@leedamato1597]

Fascism by spreadsheet.

[@lightyamamoto1036]

I knew it! Excel has always given me a weird vibe...

[@pexoto5093]

Ever watched dr strangelove? Fascists looove to use machines to apply their judgements

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

_"I propose an Aryan Semitic alliance to form a superior Caucasian race."_ Benjamin Disraeli UK PM 1890 _"we must put an end to anything which brings about any islamic unity between the sons of the Muslims. As we have already succeeded in finishing off the Caliphate, so we must ensure that there will never arise again unity for the Muslims, whether it be intellectual or culture unity"_ George Curzon British Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs 1911-1921 _"israel has no natural enemies, so it must invent dangers, and to do this it must adapt the strategy of provocation and revenge "_ Moshe Dayan, israeli Minister of Defence 1962 Same people, doing the same thing Boris Johnson's Great Grandad Mustafa Ali Kemal sent Trumps Grandad Herr Baron Don Von Drumph to America from Vienna Bavaria Capital of the Holy Roman Empire in 1922 He was also the architect of the Armenian Holocaust Wholly Romanian Catholicisms all. Nature abhors a vacuum, and you cant have Representative Democracy under Capitalism Call for Democracy by Referenda: 70 / 30 split, by Occupation of the Capitals or Mascot Candidates, and March every Oct 14 under a 🏳️

[@a.randomjack6661]

Yes! "The Top ten Jobs that Attract Psychopaths' (article to find and read) CEO is number one.

[@lm_b5080]

i work for an unnamed organisation that is known for its annual event in a small swiss town. after a few years of doing this all i can say is - the global biz community will only do something if it makes financial sense. the rest is just PR

[@Empathetik]

I find it disgusting that there are people who actually think they can CALCULATE the life of a human being 🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@Leslie-es5ij]

And make money off of it !

[@iotaeta-pi2770]

Ford did that with the Pinto. They knew that car had a high potential for catastrophic failure in a rear-end accident. They figured it was much cheaper to let people die and pay the families off than it was to fix all of the cars.

[@souplike.homogenate]

They're called "actuaries"

[@kakahass8845]

To be fair, triage is sometimes necessary. Under any other context it's insane though.

[@Geist1027]

​@kakahass8845 If you're referring to Medical Triage, no you don't. You judge based off the severity of the issue and patient care/comfort. You do not triage based off what you think someone is worth. Get real.

[@braedon2313]

Whenever you ask, "Why isn't anyone doing something about this big problem that we could totally solve?" The answer is always the same. Capitalism.

[@DanielKolbin]

corrupt politicians*

[@nfzeta128]

@@DanielKolbin no you can have corrupt politicians that don't get in the way this much. It's only when they're in the pocket of super wealthy capitalist that it truly prevents progress.

[@jasonrobinson401]

It's usually phrased more like "too expensive", but essentially yeah.

[@8LegoVogel8]

From the moment a problem becomes profitable, any solution will become too costly to implement.

[@jesseedkins7447]

The curse of capitalism

[@EricHorchuck]

Just imagine how it's going to be 50 to 100 years from now. Not only do we have to get past the mega corporations but before we can even do that, we have to get half of the population that believes climate change isn't happening to realize that it is. It's insane. The fact that people believe that companies, or the ultra rich, in any way care for them, or their lives, blows my mind.

[@fuzonzord9301]

The biggest problem is that it's not just the companies and the ultra rich. Most of the society is involved.

[@LuvBlackDaria]

All this and the government has the nerve to expect people to procreate. With these odds, not having children is best. If your child's life isn't worthed to our leaders, why have them.

[@de_dunked2621]

this, if u want to u could adopt instead.

[@phleef]

​​@@de_dunked2621 Even if you adopt, those younger lives are valued less.

[@kakahass8845]

@@phleef But at least you're not bringing more people into this world. Those children are already born, so at least you can help them and not bring more children into this inferno we call "Earth". I'd like to stress the fact I believe in the good of humanity and that being alive is a good thing however CURRENTLY under this system and situation it's best to not bring more people. They waited 14 billion years to exist, a few hundred more years is not gonna be a problem.

[@a_case_study]

This video filled me with rage as my understanding crystallized. Which I guess means you effectively communicated this horrific metric for the financial value of human life.

[@jaykline8550]

This is late term capitalism. Period. Our economic system is built on growth and greed, which means using more and more of the Earth's resources at a faster and faster pace.

[@ultimatewinfestation7194]

Eventually they will not be able to grow anymore because the planet’s resources would be depleted and once that happens, it’s a one way ticket to extinction for our humanity and countless other species.

[@fuzonzord9301]

It's regressive capitalism, they are rolling back progress and trying to throw us back into XIXth century.

[@tasantana1174]

Exactly, which is why we need to move away from prevention to preparation. China and Russia and India are not slowing down their green house gas admissions and the earth is already responding , definitely not Russia. we are at 424.81ppm which is well over what its supposed to be for a safe level.

[@Llortnerof]

And some people still refuse to acknowledge that unlimited growth in a limited world is impossible.

[@tasantana1174]

@ you can only stack a house of cards so high.

[@wombatcitystudios]

Infinite growth on a finite planet is the problem no energy source can fix.

[@NMPT777]

Yep

[@chelseasmith4753]

We ONLY get ONE Body and ONE Planet Earth if we destroy the health of either there's nothing left

[@momscastle]

Cancer behaves identically

[@donaldhobson8873]

Yes. In the long term we need to spread across the universe, not stick to 1 planet. In the short term, there is still quite a lot of space on earth if we are cleaver in using it.

[@chelseasmith4753]

@@donaldhobson8873 The problem isn't so much space on earth as it is completely turning this planet in to a toxic c@ncerous disease causing wasteland. I'm all for you fulfilling your Star Trek fantasy but I'd prefer to stay here to conserve and appreciate the Beauty and Life on this planet because last time I checked Mars doesn't have forests, lakes, mountains, oceans, or animals and if we aren't careful Earth won't have many of those things either soon enough. Granted at the rate we're going with all the "accidental" industrial and chemical spills none of us are going to be around all that long.

[@Akvandy]

We do also collectively need to use cars less. We need to invest in public transit to the point where we use it.

[@Michael45007]

Car corporations would brib, i mean, lobby the congress and the government in general not to do that.

[@houndofculann1793]

@@Michael45007 they've done that for as long as cars have existed. Jaywalking was an auto industry invention

[@gianthills]

In other words put faith in government. Not good.

[@houndofculann1793]

@@gianthills why not?

[@davidladuke7039]

The "benefits" of intervening are minimized and calculated per individual while the "costs" are aggregated across the finance sector and purposely, theoretically, maximized. BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT A GOOD REASON TO INTERVENE.

[@SpinningSideKick9000]

What’s messed up, aside from it being immoral, is that it’s the opposite of reality. When you invest in the betterment and advancement of humanity, it pays off

[@TheMusicalFruit]

@@SpinningSideKick9000 Usually it pays off many fold over the expense, as well. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

[@nfzeta128]

@@SpinningSideKick9000 Like China is being selfishly humanitarian right now and it only took a few decades to totally turn that country around.

[@troperhghar9898]

13:00 So we're treating oil companies the same as a spoiled child with an allowance "I should be getting more then this"

[@turkizno]

and there is the question.. when does the time come when "we" can sue our governments for how their inaction is impacting us, based on the same logic?

[@Rick-np9vz]

​@@turkiznowhy are you voting partyline?

[@The_Shah_Show]

All roads lead to Reagan

[@MJ-uk6lu]

Das American Hitler.

[@irrelevantpanda]

You really can basically pick a problem out of a hat and follow it back to something he did.

[@ronmackinnon9374]

'Weeeeeeeeelllll, Nancy and I are delighted!'

[@emptyandblankspace]

All roads *to hell.

[@user-jn4sw3iw4h]

"Those who make the laws, decide that those who don't are worth 3/5th" "Those numbers come from a legal case" That sure is a way to put it

[@kevincrady2831]

Look, can't we just, you know, make a Compromise?

[@irgendeinnamee12]

As someone who has a degree in business Administration, its insane to me that the government uses such a bad method (NPV) to calculate whether climate change actions are profitable or not. This method comes with a long list of limitations or circumstances under which it only can work out well. To give you an example: to make this formula always work, every individual has to always act rationale. Additionally everybody needs to have access to the same information basis. Everybody should know that this just isn't the case in our "real" world.

[@eyyy2271]

I can only hope what happened to the ceo is the beginning of the working class fighting back in this class war. Deny. Defend. Depose.

[@turkizno]

and there is the question.. when does the time come when "we" can sue our governments for how their inaction is impacting us, based on the same logic like the oil companies and investors?

[@nettewilson5926]

If only

[@SerfsUp1848]

Good optimism. Cringe delivery.

[@TheNicMMc]

The start of the Class Civil War.

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

😂 only now white people are affected too... Most Ashken don't support Ziombism (80%+ in the US) but over 1/3 of the US Senate are Romanian Catholicisms, like Piers, Boris, Cameron, Blair, Brown, Farage, Robinson, Saville, Wilders, Icke, Tate, Woods, Crowder, Walsh, Rogan, Peterson, and Tucker, Biden, Trump, Kamala, Vance, Pelosi, Guiliani, Barr, Bannon, Pence, Prince, Cotton, Stone, Flynn, Pompeo, Bolton, Pence, Maddow, Ingram, Kelly, Conway, Cooper, Spicer, Beck, Hannity, Hayes, Cuomo, Tapper, Manchin, MTG, Huckabee, Gutfeld, Newsom, Ventura, Kilmeade, Watters, Deucey, Abbot, Thiel, Gates, Gaetz, Branson, Bezos, Fetterman, AOC, Trudeau, Macron, Bolsanaro, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Tito, Rotchild, Mercer, Murdoch, Leo, Alito, Gore, Bush, 7/9 members of the Supremacist Court, etc... The Hidden Hand is Romanian Catholicisms They use Accusations in a Mirror 🪞 or 'Blame the Victim' Which is a Capital offence as Incitement per the Nuremberg Tribunal, all assets can be seized, and sentence passed with extreme prejudice anywhere in the UN Member nations per the Geneva Convention So what are you all waiting for We are fighting Nazis, and it's the Law to take them down 👇 You can't have Representative Democracy under Capitalism. Call for Democracy by Referenda: 70 / 30 split, by Occupation of the Capitals or Mascot Candidates, and March every Oct 14 under a 🏳️ There is no legal basis for a Supremacist Ethnostate It's just called 'being a Terrorist' Calling Muslims Terrorists is a Blood Libel, and subject to Antisemitism laws as Incitement to violence based on religious identity We are at War for the future of Humanity itself It is _our collective duty_ to uphold the *LAW*

[@roberthuntley1090]

The other problem is that governments don't look very far past the next election. Why spend money today when following governments will get the benefits? Hence the temptation to kick the can down the road and simply delay things.

[@TennesseeJed]

I have seen this discount rate first hand in my father's death by someone's negligence when he was 60 years old. They had the nerve to explained that since he didn't have many working years left they were offering less than the benefit amount.

[@TennesseeJed]

@karenfischbach5669 that is terrible, absolutely terrible.

[@denispereira3199]

I Once heard a phrase that makes perfect sense now: - The planet world cannot support two USA. -

[@sentientnatalie]

It can barely support one as it currently exists...

[@MLCommy]

Using their approach, if someone making 100k a year is laid off for no reason other than greed, then that person has a right to sue that employer for future earnings. "I expected to work here for 25 years, so pay me 2.5 million dollars."

[@erkinalp]

you see, both violate the principal interest rule in legal procedure (one is required to have immediate or imminent legal interest for or against something to initiate a lawsuit)

[@ishaansharma654]

Since what happened to Brian Thompson I've been looking up where the Chevron CEO is headed to for his next meet.

[@mattb5464]

Remove the comment! Never become a suspect! BTW, I cheer for the modern day robinhood!

[@Sadnessiuseless]

Bro has already disappeared

[@_cookson]

Quit fedposting

[@jaydinledford6990]

Bro, you're supposed to say allegedly

[@quannernoble4505]

I bet THEIR LIVES never get put in that equation.😡👁️

[@nunnayorz5836]

They're much higher value. They're the almighty job creators. That's why CEOs and shareholders 'earn' most of the money while workers do the actual work.

[@kevincrady2831]

@@nunnayorz5836 That's what they mean when they say a rich person is "worth" $32 billion, or whatever.

[@jcleaverchamberlinjr]

Well, if a price can't be placed on it, they don't care

[@Phuckitall]

Even if a price can be placed on it, they don't care - as long as it's below their benefit line.

[@kevincrady2831]

*Alien archaeologist:* "So, these creatures apparently destroyed their planetary biosphere so that a few of them could get more of these curious exchange totems, even though they already had billions of them apiece. Thank goodness they never expanded into space!"

[@seadragondreams4337]

Floridian here. I remembered in school we were given handouts that explains how hurricanes form and how to prepare, and how warm water fuels hurricanes. Kid me was like "heyyy if the world gets warmer won't storms get worse?" But the lack of concern of the adults in my life at the time was lacking. Fast forward 15 years or so and the latest Stormening has spoken for itself.

[@justawanderingsoul8643]

Kinda sad how so many of the consequences of climate change can be boiled down to primary school math/science. Seriously, you could explain this to a ten year old without really dumbing it down at all

[@kielbaily8513]

This reminds me, of all things, of an episode of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. In the episode, the subplot concerns the main character's assistant, a baby dragon named Spike, binging on ice cream. He's warned that he'll get a stomachache, but he blows these warnings off by saying, "That's Future Spike's problem." Sure enough, by the end of the episode, he gets a stomachache and realizes that he is Future Spike now.

[@JohnSweazy]

In the eyes of the rich the poor are not worth any money!

[@JamesLarcom]

The more I learn about how this world actually works, the more I WANT it to end.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

Watch the Eating Our Way to Extinction documentary on Plant Based News.

[@jennysteves]

You’ll likely get your wish (if ‘world’ means ‘current world civilization’) unless we all manage to become wise very soon ..

[@soliez0xff]

they should go for an oil ceo next

[@LOLSflint]

Business Student here. Basically, this concept is called "Time Value of Money"; the idea that the money you have today is worth more now than in the future (typically done with annual periods), because if you hold it at a "risk-free interest rate" (typically the rate of a long-term Treasury Bond in a country like the US), that money will compound interest over that time and increase in value as compared to just letting it sit. It's meant to be used for evaluating costs and benefits in the future as compared to today. Even then, you're supposed to take nonfinancial considerations into account. This can't be justified as simply because of the function and people using them; this is apathy by the decisionmakers towards the consequences of their decisions*, because they are either sheltered from that reality and/or they will not be impacted by it whatsoever (or so they think). *specifically QUALITATIVE consequences, and that too those of moral and ethical significance. Quantitative considerations are the point of these formulas in the first place. EDIT: changed "elite" to "decisionmakers" for more technical accuracy.

[@Ftroll]

It’s true, usually such calculations are carried out in investment projects for production or modernization, but when it comes to people’s lives, such things are absolutely unethical.

[@LOLSflint]

@@Ftroll my point is that it's actively taught to take qualitative factors into account It's the fault of the people using the functions, not the functions themselves, as their apathy towards the qualitative outcomes of their decisions is what is causing these issues. These functions are never meant to be used alone, they are meant as a supplementary analysis to rank various projects/options by rate of return (based on some arbitrary measures). The unethical part isn't the use of the function itself, it's the willful ignorance to everything else. They quantify the value of human life and forget that human life is not a commodity which can be bought or sold; this is where the unethical aspect comes into play, as they neglect the impacts of their decisions which cannot be quantified.

[@Ftroll]

@@LOLSflint Yep, that’s right.

[@wowsuchname1939]

Some of you may find this interesting, Wales has something called the ‘Future generations act’ which basically puts more importance in long term impact of things.

[@ZER0--]

Deny. Defend. Depose.

[@kmjohnny]

Some values cannot be measured with money.

[@Ftroll]

Life or a subway ticket or a bowl of soup? Get your credit card!!!

[@retorox1481]

Thanks for uploading. This should be our №1 topic, worldwide, every day..

[@joeyj6808]

Expect government to *not* care about your life. In fact, expect the very worst from your government and you'll never be disappointed.

[@lukasreher1732]

6:30 As a university student studying mathematics. Using math to evaluate the worth of a human life is an abuse of my field, and I am deeply offended by someone using math, which can produce some truly beautiful things, for such a disgusting purpose.

[@donaldhobson8873]

Imagine you have a fixed budget, and want to save as many lives as possible with that budget. There are results that say that either you calculate or you do something stupid. It's like a trolley problem, with 2+3 people on one track, and 7+8 people on the other. Refuse to calculate, and people end up dying because you didn't do the optimal thing. Calculate, and those calculations end up with a maximum price you will pay to save 1 life.

[@lukasreher1732]

@donaldhobson8873 I know what you mean and I do agree to some level. However, even as highlighted in your own example, it's not always necessary to convert between lives and dollars. You can recognise that 5 < 15 without needing to convert those lives into dollars. There's also a world of difference between "how many lives can we save at the expense of the money we have" and "how much money can we save at the expense of the lives we have" I think you'd be gravely mistaken to take those two as equivalent. Using math to save money by spending lives is a disgusting purpose. Using math to save lives by spending money is a noble cause.

[@donaldhobson8873]

@@lukasreher1732 However, even as highlighted in your own example, it's not always necessary to convert between lives and dollars. True. If you were stuck on a desert island with lots of injured people and a limited supply of bandages, you would be converting between lives and bandages. In an extreme famine, you might be converting between lives and food. > You can recognise that 5 < 15 without needing to convert those lives into dollars. Yes. There is a sense in which the choice of units is arbitrary. You can convert everything into euros or peanuts or anything else. > There's also a world of difference between "how many lives can we save at the expense of the money we have" and "how much money can we save at the expense of the lives we have" Those feel emotionally very different. They are a difference in final purpose. But when you ask one question, sometimes you need to answer the other question. Imagine you run a hospital with a fixed budget. A new medicine comes along that is cheap and effective. So you go looking for the least cost effective treatment that you are currently spending money on, to cut. > Using math to save money by spending lives is a disgusting purpose. What you are saving and what you are spending is rather dependent on what option you consider to be the default. Where is the money that you "save" going. In this case, it's government money. So save money, maybe there is more money elsewhere. Or maybe the tax rate goes down. People who have lower taxes will spend the money on all sorts of things, including things they think are healthy. Richer people are statistically likely to live longer on average.

[@meatharbor]

I wonder if they're gonna start factoring the possibility of being targeted for a hit into their cost-benefit analysis.

[@KingCloudsCape]

Honestly looking at other countries I've realized most of the problems here stem from the fact that we're a country of bootlickers. We are so fixated on the American Dream that we see ourselves as temporarily poor billionaires. This is well known. The rub is that this means that unlike other countries, our elite and ruling class aren't afraid of us. The French politicians know that if they can't find a compromise that makes the people happy, the people are going to flip the capitol building over. The people don't give a shit how it happens, but it needs to happen. Here we're obsessed with giving the wealthy and politicians so much sympathy that it allows them to talk us into anything. It's way easier for them to lie because we focus more on their likability than what their stated policies will mean for us. So when stuff doesn't happen, we say "oh I'm sure they'll get it next time if we vote them back in"

[@patrickkenneally3016]

Short-sighted greed is going to destroy us.

[@Matt_Mosley1983]

Greed....or Autism? I'm starting to see a sad connection #Aspy

[@Shadowfate93]

​@Matt_Mosley1983 autistic people often have a stronger sense of justice and fairness so no, not autism

[@AmbassadorBreadloaf]

@@Matt_Mosley1983 Don't bunch me and my fellow autistic people in with these psychopaths and narcissists. Unlike them a lot of us actually care about the preservation of the earth and humanity.

[@lapanthanim]

@@Matt_Mosley1983 What? I think you mean Sociopathy or Psychopathy. Autistic people have nothing to do with this.

[@kakahass8845]

@@Matt_Mosley1983 People with autism have higher empathy than non-autists.

[@teeteetuu94]

"The future is now, old man."

[@hasanabiclips2428]

Yes, you’re absolutely right. Capitalism as it exists today cannot survive the fight against climate change because addressing the crisis would mean dismantling the very systems that keep it alive. Climate change is the direct result of endless growth, resource extraction, and profit-driven exploitation, which are foundational to capitalism. To truly tackle it, you’d need to overhaul energy systems, end the dominance of fossil fuel industries, and restructure the global economy to prioritize sustainability and equity over profit. That would mean an end to capitalism as we know it. This is why capitalism is increasingly leaning on fascist tendencies to maintain control. Fascism is the natural response of capitalism in crisis-it’s a way for the ruling class to consolidate power, suppress dissent, and protect their profits in the face of growing instability. Fascism ensures that workers and oppressed people cannot organize effectively to demand the systemic changes needed to fight climate change. Here’s how it connects: 1. Suppressing Resistance A successful fight against climate change requires mass movements demanding systemic change. Fascism uses state violence, propaganda, and surveillance to crush these movements before they can grow. By labeling climate activists as "terrorists" or criminalizing protests, fascist systems neutralize threats to the capitalist order. 2. Controlling Resources Under fascism, the state often becomes an extension of corporate power. This allows the ruling class to secure dwindling resources-like water, arable land, and fossil fuels-by force. It shifts the focus from solving the crisis to hoarding and militarizing resources for the benefit of the elite, while leaving the rest of the population to suffer. 3. Normalizing Sacrifice for the Rich Fascism creates narratives that justify mass suffering. It convinces people that their struggles-heatwaves, floods, displacement-are either natural or the fault of marginalized groups. This diverts anger away from the system and scapegoats immigrants, refugees, or activists instead of holding corporations accountable. 4. Maintaining Inequality Fascism allows capitalism to preserve extreme inequality in the face of growing unrest. Instead of redistributing wealth and power to address climate change, it doubles down on protecting the elite at all costs, even if that means sacrificing millions of lives. If we win the fight against climate change, capitalism in its current form would collapse. Why? Because transitioning to a sustainable world requires prioritizing human needs over profit. That means moving to renewable energy, investing in public infrastructure, and building systems of care that put the planet and people first. These goals are fundamentally incompatible with capitalism’s endless drive for profit and exploitation. The ruling class knows this. That’s why they will cling to power through fascist methods if they must-because the alternative is losing their grip entirely. On the flip side, this is also why fighting climate change is inherently revolutionary. If we organize effectively, it’s not just about saving the planet. It’s about overthrowing a system that has been destroying life for centuries. Climate change isn’t just a crisis-it’s an opportunity to build a new world.

[@vulcanfeline]

thank you :)

[@medium-unit-onbreak]

well said

[@wumi2419]

You might be disappointed learning that current approach to "saving the environment" meets most of these criteria. Children in Kongo should continue mining cobalt and environment should be destroyed to extract lithium, so owners of solar panel and accumulator plants can make profit. Similarly, people should stop using synthetic clothing, fertilizers and many other derivatives of hydrocarbons so oil companies don't make profit but "green" ones do. Don't know how many comments will stay, it's herecy to doubt the corporations.

[@donaldhobson8873]

I don't see why solar (or maybe nuclear, but probably not) can't become cheaper than fossil fuels. At one point, capitalism was exploiting whales for oil. Then fossil fuels became cheaper. Invent a new more efficient source of resources to exploit, and capitalism will exploit it instead. Capitalism is quite capable of being sustainable, if it happens to be cheaper.

[@MattBuild4]

"To truly tackle it, you’d need to overhaul energy systems, end the dominance of fossil fuel industries, and restructure the global economy to prioritize sustainability and equity over profit." This is all nice to write and talk about, but what does this look like in practice? Heres a real world scenario - we need to dramatically increase EV manufacturing, production and sales to cut transportation emissions. If we want to ensure the US can provide domestic resources to meet annual demand of vehicles converted to EVs we would need to increase our annual yield capacity of mining lithium from about 3,000MT/yr to 65,000MT/yr (avg. annual non-commercial vehicle sales at 15.5M x avg lithium content per EV at 8kg x 50% -> converted to MT). Now in order to do this we will need to increase the amount of lithium mines that are operational in the US. Currently the 5 largest prospective lithium mines have been awaiting an NTP for over 10+ years due to NEPA permitting disputes in protected lands, lands near threatened species, migratory species, native american lands, aquifer drainage zones etc. So we have gray area decision to make -do we A. increase mining capacity in order to meet demand and smoothly transition to EVs thus cutting transportation emissions and reduce the risk from climate change at the cost of potentially damaging ecosystems near the mines or B. do we protect all the ecosystems at the cost of delaying the transportation conversion thus enablling continued fossil fuel reliance and sustain GHG emissions increasing the risk of climate change.

[@Bob-B-.]

The discount rate violates the 13th amendment because it assumes a citizen can be treated with less than 100% rights, like the right to not die. It's a utilitarian bluff.

[@jesusramos4309]

Love your content. I've been a subscriber for a long time.

[@rubenkoker1911]

italy shouldn't bow down to british oil companies

[@RomanKovbasyuk]

Italy has a semifascist government. I won't be surprised if some officials have premeditated the whole play with that oil company - which just imitated that they plan on drilling oil.

[@rubenkoker1911]

@@RomanKovbasyuk sounds more like the good old corruption, Fascists are big gov too

[@Zilch.0]

Governments aren't in charge. Money is in charge.

[@alextasarov1341]

Next time we hear them say “We’re investing in your future,” we need to be sure to bring this up.

[@katiekane5247]

Another rabbit hole worth investigating is how the concept of tortious interference protects corporate bad acts from being disclosed. Excellent video!

[@spiralriku]

it's insane bc i just rewatched Before the Flood (2016) again and all jokes about Leo aside, US politicians in that documentary are in this weird shade of hopeful-optimistic but "there needs to be more change". here we are now.

[@tj7870]

greed and religion IS the downfall of humans!

[@Rocinante0489]

Nice vid as always. The production quality it just off the charts as usual.

[@SecondThought]

Thanks so much!

[@Rocinante0489]

@@SecondThought idk what changed like maybe 6 months ago but the quality went from great to fucking sublime. Love all your shit man, deprogram and first thought too. keep it up!

[@brettmiller3360]

Wonderful video. I consider myself very well-informed but I've not seen this complicated subject treated so clearly and succinctly. Please keep it up!

[@MatthewShannonEco]

I used to do research based on EPA regs. It hasn't always been this way. The EPA used basic assumptions to justify GHG regs based on ICC estimates for present day costs of climate change. The discount rate was negative, as it should be, meaning that every $1 spent to curb climate change today would save many $$ in the future. It's dumb that they need to do a cost benefit analysis to justify saving the planet, but even 10 years ago the people at the EPA knew that it was common sense to aggressively combat climate change. That all changed in 2016 with trump.

[@donaldhobson8873]

> It's dumb that they need to do a cost benefit analysis to justify saving the planet, Remember that "saving the planet (TM)" is a motto/exaggeration/metaphor. The real costs are more like 2x as many hurricanes or something. And climate change isn't vanishing, a lot of the CO2 is already there or emitted by other countries, so it's more like choosing between 1.97x as many hurricanes, and 2x as many hurricanes.

[@zjsz4954]

A big problem with funding future projects is the political system runs in blocks of 4 years, if the payoff isn’t within that time frame it’s not politically beneficial

[@CBT5777]

If you don't like capitalism, resist!

[@jondevaney6860]

A few individuals resisting will do almost nothing. Government regulations, adequately enforced, can make everyone resist bad stuff. However, some will have to overcome their knee-jerk negative reactions to having their precious 'freedom' being 'infringed upon.' (Stopping for red lights infringes on your freedom, but so what - you have social duties and responsibilities. Similarly for the environment...)

[@CBT5777]

@@jondevaney6860 Not stopping at red light infringes on my well being.

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

​@jondevaney6860 the issue is people seem to suport the greedy politicians in my country left wing parties get very few votes

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

​@jondevaney6860 the issue is people seem to suport the greedy politicians in my country left wing parties get very few votes

[@Javdoc]

I always go back to that bit in Fight Club about auto recalls: Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one. Pretty much sums up most guarantee/liability thinking for corporations/governments (is there a difference?).

[@clownclown5843]

Makes me think of this quote by Che Guevara: " ...the life of a single human being is worth millions of times more than all the property of the richest man on earth."

[@danielmoscarelli9071]

We are a democracy on paper. The actual power lies in the private sector, where there is no democracy whatsoever. Your vote is for which party will serve corporations

[@ecoRfan]

Technically the US is called a constitutional republic, but that also doesn’t change that the actual power lies with the wealthy and corporations.

[@Wingsaber]

Of course its yet ANOTHER bad thing circling back to Reagan, ffs no wonder Republicans love the guy so much

[@alanjewell9550]

There is a very big difference between asbestos & climate change, in that climate change is a complex multifaceted system, not a single cause. However, the general narrative reduces it to a single cause - direct CO2 emission from fossil fuels. The snag is that that CO2 emission reduction is difficult to sell as primarily about not doing stuff - fly, drive, heat your home etc. If the focus shifted more towards the other end of the net zero equation, which is eco system restoration, then there are a lot more immediate & obvious benefits. The environment improves, better quality housing, better public transport, better food. There's more bang for your buck. And it would have a huge impact on the more hidden CO2 emissions from degrading soils, destruction of forests etc. The whole climate debate is over simplified & ineffective.

[@robertmarmaduke186]

#12:06:05 - 100 years ago you would have an 8th grade education and be living in a shotgun shack on a stump farm, with two shirts, denim pants and boots with no socks, picking through corn stubble. Your life wouldn't be worth a team of mules and a wagon you could never afford. Then 100 years ago, oil&gas blew gold dust over the entire earth. *EVERYTHING you have today is from oil&gas!* _Now WADC, Brussels (and ln'dia) are going to tax you for it, a 'climate' shuck and jive as old as the Vätican in Rome._ Corporations steal $Billions. *Governments squander $TRILLIONS!*

[@aaditkamat4995]

Agree but most of the factors affecting climate change have to do with increased human activity since the Industrial Revolution and trying to mitigate its effects relies on lesser consumption across a spectrum of goods and services tied to various industries. So while blaming just the fossil fuel industry might be an oversimplification, it is still headed in the right direction. Fossil fuel is one of the major factors leading to air and water pollution and reducing their usage would go some ways towards reducing emissions. Most importantly we can't keep expecting to achieve economic growth and expect to address all the environmental problems associated with that growth through "green capitalism"

[@KB-je7rf]

Well us folk need to use more of our cost adjustment calculations and unalive a CEO a day.

[@Radrzo1]

It's frightening that goverments to often act like companies, that as many things as possible have to bring profit. But governments are not to make money, they are to govern.

[@power2ix605]

Your videos are getting better and better every time! You're doing so well! Keep up the good work.

[@SeptillionSeven]

the government: saving the planet isnt really worth it to be truthful like whats in it for me huh?

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

When something is wrong, do not wait for permission to act. You will wait until you're in your grave.

[@robertmarmaduke186]

Greta Thunberg is a low-IQ _paid child actress_ reading a prepared script, the only High school dropout teenage to EVER address an international governance body, _and you drank the Green KoolAid!_

[@darylwilliams7883]

The average person simply cannot wrap their minds around just how miserable the conditions their own children and grandchildren are going to be living under. In fact by the time their great-grandchildren come along, everything they see around themselves today is very likely to be in ruins. And that's SO hard to accept that people would rather pretend it's not going to be real, and their descendants are going to be just fine. It's the same thing you do when you're sitting in the stands at a baseball game and a foul ball is hit right at your head, and all you can do is wince and look away. Then BAM!

[@QuantumAscension1]

Though cost of living is the primary reason birth rates are collapsing, this is certainly another big one.

[@lennonJoe]

Don't lose heart. We have surrounded the Taklamakan Desert. There will always be people who can give up immediate interests for long-term planning.

[@lapanthanim]

Average people already ignore how much harm average purchases and living habits have been doing to innocent people around the world (or the next neighbourhood over), or how much each nation and the entire world loses for each person who never gets to live up to their potential. What you're suggesting is just the same ignorance taken another step closer to home. (It's also just like how historical injustices toward marginalized groups often end up being repeated toward even the dominant group eventually if they're not banned outright. Societies can doom themselves repeat histories of suffering with a "twist" too.)

[@robertmarmaduke186]

#12:06:01 - Corporate Greed© steals $Billions. Government Thëft steals $TRILLIONS. _You are the Carbon they intend to replace by ln'dia Offshoring!_ that takes $200,000,000,000 in tech jobs out of the US, every year. [crickets] Meta is building a mega-fiber cable from US West and East coasts, straight to Mumbai/Chennai ln'dia. ln'dia will control all Federal government administrative services, including Scope 3 EGS Materiality Assessments. *Your monthly Carbon Tax will go straight to ln'dia, in between rolling blackouts for AI farms.*

[@JessicaDainese]

In Italy everybody knows that corporations, especially American ones, are rushing to destroy the planet and the human race with it only because of their endless greed. Fortunately, the EU (unlike the USA) is very committed to the fight against climate change. The EU also makes many regulations that corporations have to follow, rules to protect our environment, our workers, our privacy, our internet data etc. They are really going after Musk now, because he promotes hate speech, far-right content, misinformation etc. I hope the EU will ban Twitter. There is a reason why many billionaires live in the USA or move there. In Europe there are many rules to keep them "in check". In the USA, they are free to pollute as much as they want, treat workers like slaves, etc, and nobody does anything about it. Btw, I did not even know about that Italian case. I am very angry now that my government, with our taxes, will have to pay. Americans corporations are "buying" our country I am afraid. But hey at least our government tried to stop them. Which means they care a little. Italy is one of the European countries with the biggest variaty of animals and plants. The UNESCO recognizes this. Most Italians care about the environment, we care about animals, we refused nuclear power twice in referendum, we are the #1:country in Europe for recicling etc. Then American big businesses come here and do not want to follow Italian/EU rules. It's insane. Musk is the most famous example. I hate him.

[@ToastMalone24]

As an accountant (anti-capitalist but autistic so I’m in it for the spreadsheets) this was an astoundingly approachable explanation of discounting and how young peoples’ lives are seen as less valuable by those in power. Really great work here I’ve got a big catalog of videos to catchup on

[@pranshukrishna5105]

no but like this is a US Specific problem. EU is taking action on climate

[@dmorales70]

I really appreciate your perspective on the topics you raise, I can't support you beyond sharing your content, good luck with your channel.

[@yourcommrad2]

everyday my hatred for capitalism grows although this vide is only fuel to the furnace and people need to get organized

[@NOLNV1]

My climate anxiety can be really crushing, I have taken some action but I think I could do more

[@robertmarmaduke186]

​ #11:30:21 - Their June 2023 "Hottest Day on Record!" had buried in the report (you obviously didn't read) *"...climate model simulation..."* Since 2024 Climate Boiling! hustle has been FAKE climate model simulations towards COP29 _outrageous $T extortion!_ *ln'dia's chief trade export is FOSSIL FUELS!* 😂

[@pennywisethedancingclown2246]

Do more. Join an activist organisation. Keep up the fight!

[@mangomayhem609]

I feel like we as the only currently known intelligent civilization owe it to all of reality itself to try to reach our potential in both societal & scientific terms. It would be such a shame if we waste this literally once in a lifetime opportunity to experience & understand the universe & reality itself. I have a feeling that this exact type of situation might be one of the great filters, as the laws of economics must be universal, along with the pollution that comes from profit driven careless industrial production, war, etc.

[@Ftroll]

Two aliens are flying past our planet. One asks the other - what kind of planet is this? The second answer is planet Earth, people live on it. - What kind of people? - This is a biological species: they eat, drink, are born and die. -Are they reasonable? - No, no, their weapons are aimed at themselves.

[@Ftroll]

Aliens arrived on our Earth, first flew around it, looked at what and how, and then decided to communicate with the people of the Earth, asking: - Why do you have so much garbage and garbage dumps around? - This is because we don’t have enough money to build waste processing plants. - Why do you have so many hungry and homeless people? - This is because we don’t have enough money to feed them and build houses for them. - Why do you constantly fight with each other? - This is because we don’t have enough money, and we are trying to take it from others. ... the aliens scratched their “turnips” and asked: - Here we are flying between galaxies, have explored many worlds and planets, but have never met such a rare and it turns out to be a very necessary resource like money, could you show us what it looks like, and generally show us where you get it in space, we then We will try to fly after him, bring you more of this money and help you establish harmony on your planet. “We don’t fly anywhere for money,” the earthlings answer, “we print it ourselves.” - By yourself? - the aliens asked. - Yes. ... after this answer, earthlings were crossed off the list of intelligent beings...

[@carlosvalle2387]

Try not to frame the discussion of math as something 'boring'. It perpetuates the stigma of math being unreachable and not worth learning. Don't underestimate/dimish your audience, your message, and the value of information.

[@SecondThought]

My guy it’s a joke.

[@NathanielTCHIVAGNON]

As always, all roads leads to reagan.

[@davidladuke7039]

Professionals say the terrible things in math because it launders the terrible thing both for those who understand the math ("Not my fault, just look at the math!") and those who don't ("I don't get it but he didn't SEEM to say anything evil.").

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

4:58 $1,000,000 for a human life... I wonder if that's changed by much since then... ...imagine paying your way out of normal, non-corporate murder charges using this...

[@vlada]

False, it's actually 99¢ for life of Palestinians right now. You can't give them away, media don't want it.

[@kevincrady2831]

They haven't adjusted wages (e.g. the Minimum Wage) to account for inflation, why would they adjust the base value of a (non-rich) human life?

[@matthew.datcher]

6:45 Interesting how you landed on 3/5. I hear the rhyme of history.

[@Rudol_Zeppili]

It’s insane we’ve known about climate change for close to 160 years and we haven’t been able to do anything about it…