Why Greg Heffley is a SOCIOPATH

[@christophermitchell9739]

One of the big things about sociopaths is they're not born that way, it's a product of their environment. And looking at Greg's family... yeah I can see it

[@jbcatz5]

@@hunterolaughlin In his introduction in the first book Manny is well practiced in using his youth as a get out of punishment free pass. “I’m onwy thwee.” Cabin Fever would like a word. The Simpson family is less dysfunctional than the Heffleys.

[@____David]

@@hunterolaughlin sometimes little kids like to push their boundaries and see where the line is, continuing doing worse stuff until they finally get a reaction from an adult however because Manny didn't get a reaction/punishment from his parents he hasn't learned anything because he was never taught anything, it's like if you keep practising a math question over and over but doing it wrong and your teacher doing nothing to correct you, you just learn to do the wrong things.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@____David Yep, that’s basically how Manny became a psychopath. His parents never disciplining him and letting continue to do bad things without ever giving him the idea of what’s right and wrong.

[@misshoneychurch8153]

I was under the impression that current literature supported the idea that there really is only psychopathy. Factor 1 or factor 2, (formerly known as sociopath.) I personally believe character pathology and environment are each components in development of the “DarkTriad” of traits.

[@Uhmthisizevalolz]

Now I see why im evolving into a sociopath

[@chimp4225]

Honestly who I really feel bad for is Rowley’s parents. They keep telling him Greg’s a bad influence but he just can’t see it

[@Calbunny]

I agree. I also feel bad for Rowley for the same reason.

[@jbcatz5]

Rowley’s parents are just as bad, but on the opposite end of the scale. They let him act like a six year old girl because it’s easier than helping navigate life as a teenager. They’re naive enough Greg can smuggle in videogames they disprove of by sneaking them in cases for child friendly games.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@jbcatz5 Still better than Greg’s parents.

[@Freakcheeks]

BETTER CALL SAUL! (say it)

[@kagemaster3218]

I would be a better friend for Rowley

[@joebidengamingofficialacco1291]

Everyone is so focused on Greg being a sociopath that they miss the obvious. Rodrick has dyslexia.

[@nathanwithrow35]

Compared to the rest of the family, dyslexia is pretty normal.

[@errortryagainlater4240]

Even as a kid I always felt like Rodrick had some kind of learning disorder which would explain a lot.

[@bobthebacon3163]

proof? You can't label people that are lazy as mentally ill :/

[@xyx2188]

The mom is probably Anti vac

[@Waddleclaws]

Wait. Theory time ⏱🕛🕧🕐🕜🕑🕝

[@EscapeReality123]

Rereading those books as an adult is a really different experience. I've never realized how dysfunctional Greg's family was. No wonder he became a sociopath. No wonder he was obsessed with becoming rich and popular - he wants to feel seen and loved. Something he does not get from his family. He is also getting bullied at school, and struggles with making friends (Even Rowley, his only friend, was the one who started this friendship, not Greg)

[@brandonmikhailov3569]

Spot on

[@robertisham5279]

You know you can't diagnose people as sociopaths if they're minors and you're not a psychologist. This video is ridiculous.

[@EscapeReality123]

@@robertisham5279 You know that it's a different story for fictional characters, right? Because when it comes to fictional characters, we see their entire life, their environment, their perspective and even their THOUGHTS. That's way more than when it comes to real people, Therefore we have a way better and cleaner picture of whats going on. And most importantly - since its a fictional character, we won't cause any harm by diagnosing them with anything. Again - unlike how it works with real people

[@MrBilly456]

Even if Greg is a terrible person, I kind of feel bad for him...

[@bloodassassln]

dude i read these books in elementry from 6 to 10 im 14 right now and even a few year diffrence in age shows you how what the fuck the family is

[@gliderguy4723]

I'm not defending him, but I do remember one time in Cabin Fever when Rowley turned them in for the neon blotches on the wall, Vice Principal Roy gave Greg the option for him and Rowley to clean them up or just him. He decided to do it himself because he dragged Rowley into it.

[@DeathlyDrained]

That's like one of the rarest times he was actually nice

[@gliderguy4723]

@@DeathlyDrained true, true

[@Ya_Boi_Mojang]

bro i remember that!

[@caitlinmorris5064]

but that's because he was expecting points for being good in the future, so rowley will thank him later or if rowley stuffs up when he's grown up, greg can hold it over his head

[@slashbash1347]

It was the first time I saw Greg take it on the chin for Rowley. Cabin Fever was Greg at his best and Manny at his worse.

[@jbcatz5]

With his family, is it any wonder Greg turned out how he did? A mother who doesn’t know how people older than a toddler think and behave, a father who is only interested when his own image can potentially be improved, an older brother with no ambition who antagonises him and a toddler brother who never has to deal with consequences because he’s a blind spot for their mother.

[@zach415]

Rodrick has ambition

[@Blue-fg8vt]

@@zach415 agree, his band.

[@mariustan9275]

@@Blue-fg8vt Yeah, but ts possible he has dyslexia

[@Blue-fg8vt]

@@mariustan9275 and?

[@TrafficConeOrange]

@@Blue-fg8vt You sound like a little child with the “and?”, I don’t see why you need them replying. They just said Rodrick might have dyslexia, they didn’t say Rodrick was stupid.

[@Regular_Everyday_Normal_MF]

I don’t exactly count Greg as a sociopath… but as a narcissist, absolutely.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

sociopath is overused like a buzzword nowdays, just like "racist" or "pedophile" people just throw out these random terms on twitter and eventually forget the original definitions.

[@aidenwilsonthebitterfilmsf2730]

diary of a wimpy kid sucks

[@MeganMarieMasters]

@@B_baldy exactly

[@cosmo_7549]

@@NeostormXLMAX true. To add on, sociopaths are the product of a traumatic event or events that took place in somebody's childhood around the time their personality was developing. Yes, everybody reacts differently to certain situations and things like bullying which aren't traumatic for some people could be traumatic for others. However, I'm pretty sure Greg had a normal childhood?

[@kirra0000]

@@cosmo_7549 HE SLEPT IN A DRAWER

[@rhforno6696]

What we have found out from all this: Greg:sociopath Manny:phsycopath Susan:An absolute Karen Frank:neglects family Rodrick:a relatively normal

[@rhforno6696]

*person

[@SMCwasTaken]

So the books are just pointless now?

[@legendarywiimaster]

Rodrick is kind of stupid though. Bro thought his plants died because of his music.

[@City1Tiger]

wrong

[@michaelmcnamara8839]

There are going to be more books aka more lore 😏😏😏

[@temajmoody2384]

So we have 2 sociopaths, 1 normal teen, a Karen mom and a dad who could care less. This is a messed up family dynamic.

[@temajmoody2384]

Oh yeah true

[@SuperSpider9098]

@{ Gacha_Spade } difference is mainly psychopaths don't hide their lack of empathy, like the joker, while sociopaths are pretty much just as terrible but attempt to blend into society

[@MiguelTenoso]

@@SuperSpider9098 We live in a society

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@SuperSpider9098 You're right for the most part, but there are sociopaths who can fake empathy well enough to blend into society, and some psychopaths can create a persona of a sociopath who can fake empathy. In other words, Ted Bundy had an NPC mode, but Charles Manson didn't.

[@SuperSpider9098]

@@MK_ULTRA420 uh.. ok... That... Doesn't make sense, pretty much the only distinguishing criteria between sociopath and psychopath is whether they blend in or not, so a psychopath that blends in is just a sociopath Edit: maybe you're explaining it wrong or I'm misunderstanding it, but right now you're not making any sense

[@cosmic-cookies]

I’m not all that surprised that Greg is a sociopath considering the people he lives with. He was constantly picked by Rodrick as he was little(and his parents never seemed to punish Rodrick. I remember Greg tell Susan that Rodrick said a bad word and instead of punishing the two of them, she just punished Greg for knowing how to spell the word.) His dad doesn’t care about him(or anyone in that family) very much. His mom said is shown to be a bad parent. Like when Greg got scratch by his Grandma’s cat and was bleeding, Susan didn’t help immediately and instead tried to turn it into a spelling lesson. His little brother gets spoiled rotten and constantly gets away with everything.

[@mariustan9275]

Yeah

[@neko-rt7bt]

Bruh he was punished by a bar of soap in his mouth

[@mariustan9275]

@@neko-rt7bt Yep.

[@e.l.studios455]

@@neko-rt7bt because gregs writes with his tongue

[@spiritualelement757]

Greg is basically the scapegoat child

[@Waialua-Wingfoil]

Jeff Kinney once said on Twitter that Greg's not a sociopath, and while he's not a GOOD person, he does have his share of guilt or occasional humanizing moments. In that aforementioned deviled eggs incident, he said he felt a little bad when he saw the family taking the plastic plant full of eggs. For what it's worth, he is less of a jerk in the movies.

[@camoking3609]

I mean the climax of the first movie his him throwing away his chance at fame and admiration to save Rowley Also I'm pretty sure all the characters have their negative traits toned down Except for the dad, they cranked him up to 11 and it's kinda funny

[@Waialua-Wingfoil]

@@camoking3609 Very true. They did become more likable and well-rounded, at least until the much-maligned fourth movie, where almost all the characters (besides Manny, who doesn't do much besides save the day in the end) were flanderized. The worst offender is Susan, who acts like a Karen. At one point, she even yells at Greg when a car passes him by because he "almost woke up Manny". Great priorities there, lady.

[@Biology_Creativeness]

Greg did say its a journal not a diary where you put all your emotions into writing

[@jeffreygao3956]

I'm not taking the word of that egg of a writer.

[@bonkleboii5352]

Aaand Greg still gets away after all he did and never learn his lessons just because he feels "a bit" sorry

[@brute6896]

I remember a part in the series where Greg was imagining how he was a super rich guy and Rowley was just his poor gardener/ handyman

[@rxshovxx]

Who needs friends when you have enemies like this

[@IKER1000sYT]

pretty sure the fourth one

[@Kureemy]

I think that was in Hard Luck. I liked that book.

[@cordoud7038]

​@@rxshovxxplus we clearly saw that rodrick has MUCH MORE FRIENDS THAN HIS TWO LITTLES BROTHERS COMBINED 😁😁😁😁😁

[@nikobellic8002]

That's hilarious. That's why I like Greg.

[@wolfbyte3171]

3:14 to be fair Manny freakin deserves that. Kid gets away with EVERYTHING and never seems to be punished for acting out.

[@ashokadhshd3438]

Agreed

[@bruh-nn2ne]

hes like 3.

[@ashokadhshd3438]

@@bruh-nn2ne not an excuse

[@AlextheHomo]

"But i'm onwy fwee"

[@bruh-nn2ne]

@@ashokadhshd3438 hes a fucking toddler boo

[@jbcatz5]

There is the time where Greg finds the ring the family has been tearing itself apart to find, and instead of claiming it in front of them he decides it’s best no one knows as it’s be a bloodbath all over again. Showing awareness of the behaviour of others, empathy and there’s no immediate reward either. Yes, it’s a potential nest egg for the long run but Greg decides not to reignite the conflict the previous search sparked.

[@GiganX1]

But the egg is put into her mother’s cabinet

[@billcipher8645]

I guess but it also gives him a lot of power, he can use it anytime it's the best for him and, well, knowing Greg, he won't hesitate to do so

[@mariustan9275]

@@GiganX1 He just knows its the safest place, considering Manny.

[@5h4d0w5l1f3]

I'm not sure that taking action to prevent himself further distress really demonstrates empathy. It seems like he's aware of other people's behaviours and the impact that they have on HIM, but not how his behaviours impact them in return.

[@disgustof-riley]

nest egg??

[@jhawkshaw]

Greg canonically eating cereal with the milk poured in first is the biggest proof that he is a sociopath.

[@nmoney6655]

I like my cereal poured in before my milk 🥛

[@nitrondersaftige3807]

Nah, otherwise the cereal gets drenched and ain't crunchy anymore

[@SiahSensei]

@@nitrondersaftige3807 Well, many people enjoy cereal even when it’s soggy, including me. I like both crunchy cereal and soggy cereal..I understand why some people pour milk first, but its not something that applies to everyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@nitrondersaftige3807]

@@SiahSensei I know, I also understand that people like their cereals soggy. I just don't understand, why it's so heretic for many people to like their cereals crunchy

[@IndigoTeddy]

The way I do it is to I pour my milk into a mug and my cereal into a measuring cup, then inspect both before mixing them together in the bowl. You definitely don't want to eat cereal with spoiled milk, and I don't want to add too much All-Bran. Gives the added benefit of being able to warm your milk beforehand.

[@paulamarina04]

greg was never really intended to be a sociopath and a good thing from that is that he ends up being a pretty realistic portrayal. hes not a genius mastermind that manipulates everyone around him for evil, hes a wimpy, awkward and nerdy middle schooler with a single friend who only really knows how to properly manipulate rowley and whose blurred sense of good and wrong might still get things right every once in a while (such as covering up for rowley with the cheese incident)

[@rapbattlefan2008]

Also, keep in mind, kids at that age are ASSHOLES. They are self serving and simply don’t know any better.

[@DodotheWishFanboy]

Agreed

[@personx4999]

Damn now I want a Diary of the Evil Mastermind series with an adult Greg who manipulates everyone around him for his evil schemes.

[@DodotheWishFanboy]

@@personx4999 Greg isn’t evil.

[@manoluigisupershow1411]

There's also that time Rowley ratted him to the vice principal for unintentionally vandalizing the school wall (technically he confessed to doing it, but stayed anonymous), yet Greg decided to take the whole punishment to himself instead of ratting him back.

[@ArtAttack98]

To be fair, some of the things you mentioned that Greg did are kinda justifiable considering his age and the circumstances involved. He probably didn’t tell anyone about the eggs because he was afraid of the consequences for him. Also Greg didn’t sing at the school play because Rodrick was recording the whole thing with the intention to embarrass him, so I’m completely with Greg here. Even though I agree with you on all the other things I wouldn’t necessarily call him a sociopath. A narcissist for sure, but after all he’s still a kid.

[@Treeeee2008]

Yeah, who hasn't kept things from their parents as a kid in fear of the consequences? One time I hit a guy in the head with a mallet so hard he got a seizure and I never told my parents, those were the days when cartoons could be funny...

[@chimp4225]

@@Treeeee2008 Jesus Christ lmao he even got a seizure wtf

[@MustacheCashStash125]

Sociopaths aren’t even bad people. In fact, their like that because they’ve been abused as children.

[@MustacheCashStash125]

@@Treeeee2008 I’ve done a lot of research on mental health and child abuse probably isn’t the only cause but it just seemed the most effective because sociopathy is caused by your environment. Probably also witnessing a lot of violence can also cause it.

[@icedchqi]

@@Treeeee2008 wdym cartoons could be funny

[@thalloutboy]

Here’s my interpretation: Greg is the narrator of the whole series. He’s a middle schooler who struggles to make friends and have normal interactions with people. It makes sense that he’s not the nicest person- he’s in middle school, after all. However, I think he’s also an unreliable narrator. He probably overstates many of the things he does because he is a compulsive attention seeker (for instance, when he tries to brag about breaking Rowley’s arm) and maybe because his actual reactions in those situations were more awkward and less clever than what he thought of after the fact. He probably wanted to look better in hindsight, and he thought that playing up his narcissistic tendencies would make him look cool. Diary of a Wimpy Kid is full of crazy, interesting stories. If any other middle school kid went around telling crazy stories, we’d assume they were lying or exaggerating their stories. In short, I don’t think Greg is a sociopath, and I actually think he’ll grow up to be a fairly normal adult, albeit with some serious baggage as a direct result of his upbringing.

[@spyjonsachurin2101]

My theory (well i like Greg is a sociopath best because it makes it so much more interesting) is that Greg has undiagnosed adhd, and it’s really bad. I think he has trouble accepting guilt and blame due to rejection sensitive dysphoria, so he writes himself in a way that diverts blame. And he has a ton of compulsive habits. He and Rodrick are said to be super lazy but I’m thinking Rodrick also has severe adhd and dyslexia and is probably depressed as hell. But that being said, Greg is still a gigantic asshole. No denying that.

[@daitoray9876]

I agree. However, I think there are times where he does take things a bit far. For example, in the Long Haul, he didn't feel any remorse for Manny after his pig was sent to a petting zoo as a result of it causing chaos in the car. Not to mention he sorta acted like Manny deserved to lose the pig because the pig bit him when in reality, he did "provoke" it by removing the pacifier from its mouth. In addition, much of his actions all hint towards a hidden desire to become an author as he is always looking for something to write about himself or others that would capture the attention of others.

[@aswathik4709]

@@daitoray9876 i don't think that's exactly how the pacifier scene was written

[@jxmmykriminallive]

@@aswathik4709 it is

[@historicflame972]

@@daitoray9876 It's Manny, who the fuck would feel remorse?

[@twiggythetorterra9643]

Greg does show some genuine emotions like when he thought he was gonna move and Rowley made that poster for Greg and Greg cries because he really was gonna miss Rowley

[@johngr1747]

This doesn't cancel out the fact that Greg sees his "friend" as a slave!

[@Lowseeds]

@@johngr1747 Imagine rowley is black 😳

[@BoyCodeTVFun]

@@Lowseeds No stop this joke is going the wrong way STOP

[@LobitoGuerrerense]

@@BoyCodeTVFun But what if hes right we never see their skin color in the books

[@BoyCodeTVFun]

@@LobitoGuerrerense I know but they technically show their skin color in the movies

[@elgabel411]

Greg has: - a little brother that always gets him in trouble - a mother that is overly strict and punishes him for everything he does - a dad who doesn't care about him - a big brother that bullies and annoys him No wonder he turned out that way

[@Khae_kys]

Rodrick is the only normal one in the family, he is just doing what most teenagers do

[@santiagoperez3024]

Yeah, I “bully” my brother too, but if anyone else tried to bully him, I’m the first one running in there to protect my little brother It’s a weird family dynamic, but I mean, it’s pretty normal as far as I’ve seen

[@elgabel411]

@@santiagoperez3024 Yeah I mean I'm the big brother and I used to bully my sister too, but I still showed support and didn't try to put her in any miseries. now look at Rodrick. Sure, he does what a big brother does but anything he does that is related to Greg, damages Greg and he knows. He does it intentionally

[@squidsalotl]

@@Khae_kys So blackmail is normal? The entirety of Rodrick Rules is Rodrick blackmailing Greg (granted it didn't work but my point still stands.)

[@Tiggy_skibbles]

If you watched the Rodrick video he goes in depth how he’s normal

[@apexstudios5508]

I kinda feel sorry for Greg because of his environment, his mom scolds him for literally everything, he has a teen brother who bullies him and a little brother who wants him in trouble

[@Thebestwormtotally]

Manny doesn’t want Greg in trouble from what the book says, he’s a toddler.

[@awesomeashton]

@@Thebestwormtotally No, Manny is the absolute worst and derserves to die.

[@blueapple5274]

@@Thebestwormtotally but he's a full on psychopath, he literally tried killing his family in cabin fever and in the Rowley perspective book, he is still the same so it just proves he is not a normal toddler but a full on brat psychopathic toddler. I have a little sister the same age as him, she gets me in trouble sometimes but i have never seen her act the way like Manny does.

[@mrmoopster5702]

Rodrick hadn’t done anything really that bad tbh

[@Thebestwormtotally]

@@mrmoopster5702 Yea, the only “bullying” he’s done is genius pranks I wish I came up with

[@sahana4498]

the moment i finally realized greg's blatant toxicity was actually when i was reading 'diary of an awesome, friendly kid', which is supposed to be from rowley's perspective. reading that book actually disturbed me quite a lot because it clearly portrayed just how toxic and manipulative greg can be to everyone around him to get what he wants.

[@bakedbeans5494]

He isn't, Rowley is just stubborn and thinks that he's smart.

[@sahana4498]

@@bakedbeans5494 maybe so, but greg isn't a good guy either. You can't deny that he's extremely toxic, manipulative and not to mention, super selfish and insensitive. Greg knows Rowley is easy prey because he's gullible and easy to manipulate. Reading that book, you'll see just how smart Greg is when it comes to getting what he wants from people around him

[@bakedbeans5494]

@@sahana4498 He is not a master manipulator, so stop with the guff. He has never been the type of character to be so bent on getting what he wants by any means. Rowley just acts like a child and is very easy to get annoyed at. He is not a saint like you all make him out to be.

[@pipootkelter3289]

Blame the environment he grew up in

[@xtremeyoylecake]

To be fair he grew up in a literal hellhole

[@WebbedWonder]

I swear, manny could drop a boulder on greg and his mother wouldn’t even care “Manny are you ok?!” “I know you definitely didn’t mean to crush your brother with that boulder.”

[@johnnyfingersgood6927]

“I’m onwy thwee!”

[@SpiderBrained]

Greg : ..mom.. I’m dieing …help.- Mom: OH ITS THOSE DAMN ELECTRONICS ! Manny : I owy three

[@redfatseal2407]

Ik a lot of us hate Greg but he’s a saint compared to manny

[@dianarastegar5526]

In retrospect this sounds crazy but when you think about it, it’s completely true

[@Azyne]

Manny could kill Greg and his mf mom couldn't care less

[@Triplexxx9081]

4:21 this has me dying 😭

[@jaybird498]

The fact that Greg Heffley,the MAIN character of the Diary of a wimpy kid, is a socialpath,is worrying.The fact that NO ONE is telling him about this only ADDS to the problem.And looking at Greg's family... yeah I can see it.

[@Johnnoeu3]

Diary of a wimpy kid is a pg movie for kids.

[@Player-jh4ko]

@@Johnnoeu3 So? Not all sociopaths are evil lmao.

[@Player-jh4ko]

@Rohan Dasgupta If this video is stupid, then why are you here? Yes the author de-confirmed the theory and Greg isn't a sociopath, but it's still fun to joke around.

[@channel45853]

Why is it bad for a main character to be bad?

[@lisandro5612]

@@Player-jh4ko that means he's just an awful friend and person

[@sweett3253]

Greg's an emotionally immature middle schooler. He might have developmental issues but I don't think he's a sociopath, I think he just hasn't realized the importance of doing good quite yet

[@d1kgaws12]

Yeah. He does exhibit narcissism for sure.

[@sweett3253]

@@d1kgaws12 I think it's called "immaturity" not narcissism

[@sweett3253]

@Rohan Dasgupta exactly. People try to act like he's a narcissist or a sociopath but forget to acknowledge that kids, especially between middle school and early highschool, are assholes

[@mariustan9275]

@@sweett3253 Yeah, don't judge children with morals for adults, especially considering his entire family (especially mom) are assholes.

[@thefireybox1181]

@Maria Stella Musk u like his pp??????????????

[@YehudiNimol]

One instance from the books where I remember Greg actually doing something good and not out of selfishness is during the 8th book, where he finds a wedding ring his grandmother hid as an Easter hunt and decides to not tell anyone about it in order to not stir up any further conflict in his family. About the only time in which he had a moral compass

[@GiganX1]

But he put it in his mothers closet to pass the problem to his mother.

[@rufaromumera7246]

Gray area

[@xD-nj7yu]

@@GiganX1 He did that to hide it where no one will look

[@rawcookiedough7518]

@@GiganX1 he hid it there so no one would find it

[@abhay4147]

That was kinda nice if it wasn't for him thinking he would buy a jetpack after selling the ring

[@anoyint]

That part where greg genuinely couldn't understand that taking responsibility for his actions was "the right thing to do" is what convinced me.

[@kaleandseeweed]

As a kid i rooted for greg, but when i recently read the books i realized the greg was really manipulating us to be on his side when he was really the one in the wrong

[@BrimmySP]

''rooted for greg'' that's what I do when I see him smile

[@aidentoons]

I always loved and rooted for Rodrick even as a kid, and loved Rowley but not Greg, and now Pete Hosey, Wade, and Carter are my favorites (I still love Rodrick though).

[@BrimmySP]

@@aidentoons YOU HATE GREG???

[@aidentoons]

@@BrimmySP He was a bully

[@Anonymous-bb2rb]

@@aidentoons I remember that one time Greg broke Rowley's arm and tried bragging about it for clout.

[@sfnaffan]

Well in the second book, Greg tries to make Manny laugh just for fun when he and Manny are in the car until his mom scolds him.

[@kk_butterfly]

he was trying to kill manny by making it so manny laughed so much he couldn't breathe but kept laughing and then died

[@kk_butterfly]

@t ik it was a joke lol

[@hunterolaughlin]

And I thought Rowley’s parents were bad when it came to being extremely overprotective. Like geez, Susan! This is one of the rare moments when your sons act like normal brothers and you ruin it by telling Greg he could have killed Manny. 🤦‍♂️

[@sfnaffan]

@@hunterolaughlin exactly! And this type of stuff is why he just decides to not have fun with his siblings cause in the end, he always gets scolded.

[@BrimmySP]

@@kk_butterfly ''he was trying to kill manny by making it'' and that's why they made him cry in the rodrick rules movie's intro (the animated one)

[@williamcameron8325]

One interesting thing though is if Rowley is in a situation he can't escape from Greg will always come through to him showing that he does care for Rowley. Example the cheese Rowley was forced to eat the cheese and Greg told everyone that he threw it away so Rowley wouldn't get excommunicated by his classmates, but Rowley seems to be the only person Greg actually cares for as he shuns everyone else.

[@redfatseal2407]

And I’m cabin fever when rowley ratted him out for vandalism Greg took all the blame himself

[@johngr1747]

No! At the very end Greg says "If Rowley ever gets ahead of himself I will remind him that he ate the cheese!" he sees Rowley as someone who's beneath him nontheless!

[@April_X2]

"fRaNk LeT yOuR sOn GeT hIs BaG yOu FuKiN LiMp DiK"

[@Duckduckgoose-h4h]

I i was lokking for this comment bruh

[@tronhero9965]

Alright, I agree with all but one point. Greg’s ‘narcissism’ is a common trait of people, smooching up to elders for your own benefit. And don’t say “I didn’t do that as a kid”, we all know you did it once or twice.

[@FieryToad]

I did that

[@AbandonedVoid]

I'm sure there are some people out there who didn't, but they're probably uncommon and it's not really something to brag about since nobody is fully morally developed until at least adulthood. If a kid is that good, then I pity the circumstances that forced them to be that way or their slavish devotion to authority.

[@Some_User24]

Y'know, I wanna say I totally smooched off my family to get things when I was a kid, but I genuinely don't remember one instance where I did. But I agree, it's normal, especially for children.

[@FieryToad]

@@Some_User24 Indubitably, it is a thing people have to experience once in their lifes. Unless you’re uncommon, you would have to experience those things in life.

[@Some_User24]

@@FieryToad Welp I'm either uncommon or I just have terrible memory I guess, lol

[@ethancoolbro18gamer86]

I feel like Greg in the live-action movies was better. Yeah he was a jerk, but he was improving as a person.

[@cardboardbox7218]

yeah

[@hunterolaughlin]

That’s because if they kept Greg the same in the films, nobody would be rooting for him.

[@PissJohn]

reverse scott pilgrim

[@Lightning-gg5iu]

Movie Greg did a lot more nice things than book Greg

[@osmanyousif7849]

2:43 - 3:02 In Greg’s defense, Rodrick was tape recording the whole thing and was gonna probably use the video to try to humiliate Greg with how cringe his singing was. So staying quiet was probably a good option. 5:30 - 5:48 While I don’t justify for what Greg did to Rowley, he was being annoying with kicking the pillow several times. But I don’t get why didn’t Greg just tell his mother to have Rowley stop.

[@hunterolaughlin]

Considering how Susan presents herself as a parent, I highly doubt she’d get Rowley to stop kicking the pillow. Maybe if it was Greg in that position instead of Rowley.

[@osmanyousif7849]

@@hunterolaughlin maybe Greg could’ve said that Rowley almost hit Manny with that pillow and could’ve hurt him. And seeing how Greg’s mom is so protective of Manny, she probably would’ve made him stop.

[@jbcatz5]

The trees having a song was artistic license by the teacher directing the play in the first place, and forced on Greg and his fellow trees.

[@-hello6177]

Because it'd not be as fun, look at his shit eating grin, it's clearly not just because he was annoyed

[@RokuHanmar]

Or at least tell Rowley that he was being annoying. Rowley's a good person and probably would've stopped

[@bryanthebreadstick5266]

I swear I remember thinking this back in elementary school and wondering why no one else realized it Also how stupid is Greg if he thinks being known as a guy who mercilessly broke his best friend's arm will be beneficial, especially when Greg's best friend is shown sympathy

[@SMCwasTaken]

So the books are pointless crap now? I'm sorry but this was never meant to be looked at this way

[@r5t6y7u8]

I don't think Greg is a sociopath, he's just a self-centered 11(?)-year-old with a sadistic older brother and spoiled kid brother. My school was full of kids who downplayed or laughed off hurting someone to dodge blame and guilt ... AND try to jump on any bandwagon of popularity.

[@lawliet1913]

​@@r5t6y7u8 in the end i found someone who have logical idea

[@gavinfox7216]

I know of ONE single remotely redeeming thing that Greg has going for him. In Wrecking Ball, Greg’s family plans on moving, and when he says goodbye to Rowley for what he thinks is the last time, he actually cries and hugs Rowley showing that even in a confusing manipulative sociopathic way, Greg cares about Rowley, unlike Abigail. In Hard Luck Rowley gets a girlfriend that not only is just as manipulative as Greg, but it’s revealed at the end of the book that she was just using him to make her ex jealous and want to date her again. Greg is bad, but at least he THINKS that he’s being a good friend, unlike Abigail who doesn’t care about him in any way.

[@rawcookiedough7518]

That's a really good point, Abigail is just as bad as Greg

[@mariustan9275]

@@rawcookiedough7518 More like worse

[@rawcookiedough7518]

@@mariustan9275 imagine what HER diary is like.

[@thehistoryandbooknerd8979]

I’m genuinely afraid that you think one abuser is better than the other…… they’re both horrid, vile people….

[@hunterolaughlin]

I hope Rowley finds a girl that actually cares for him as a friend and doesn’t use him for shallow reasons.

[@localmenace3043]

I’m surprised you didn’t also get into Rowley’s diaries. Hoo boy, you can really tell how messed up their friendship is through his eyes! Can’t wait for part 2.

[@gothicgolem2947]

Tbf Greg was nice one time in those but yeah he wasn’t nice in a lot of those man I loved that first book in rowley ones and there all preety good too hopefully we get more and a Rodrick diary

[@daniboy4153]

I feel like we've all had a friend like Greg at one point

[@bakedbeans5494]

@Agnes Rowley has been emasculated by his parents.

[@froggyfriend2744]

Sociopathic tendencies are incredibly common in children of narcissistic parents and looking at Greg's family and what we already know about Susan... All of their behavior fits what we know about those psychological impacts perfectly down to Manny's behavior because Narcissistic parents typically have a favorite child that they spoil while pretty much ignoring the other kids they have unless they need something

[@froggyfriend2744]

Like this really does all lead back to Susan

[@douglasmiller526]

Greg definitely cares for Rowley the most. As he threw away the cheese so Rowley wouldn't get made fun of he took the blame the green dye, and he's also done nice things for his brothers he give Manny advice for Christmas and helped Rodrick with his Science Project.

[@BruhTNT4258]

Correction, Rowley ate the cheese.

[@douglasmiller526]

@@BruhTNT4258 only half of it

[@almagarduno3792]

Rowley literally GOBBLED UP THE CHEESE

[@brickowls7886]

the worst part is, this is all from Greg's perspective. So even with the personal biases, he's still a narcissist. maybe not a sociopath, but a narcissist definitely

[@yungsouljah2012]

the fact that it's from his perspective makes me curious as to how much is really bein left out 😂

[@lostxerxes]

I mean, all the other people also have this downward "normal" face when they are not smiling. So I think Greg has a face like this because this face is just to show the face everyone has most of the time, a "normal" face. Greg also smiled in certain times in the whole series when he was not hurting/giving pain or something(when Greg and his family play golf in the Getaway).

[@mariustan9275]

Or having family vacation

[@trazyntheinfinitearchivist7866]

So he's just got a resting bitch face

[@rankedqueue5403]

4:20 Grandma kind of sounds like she was talking backwards and was played back in reverse, is that just me?

[@rufaromumera7246]

It sounds like talking while breathing in at the same time

[@RandomuserYT]

The time stamp though

[@ethypoo]

gramma is susan’s mother, not frank’s

[@Sand_UnderMemes]

Yes lads

[@theacesofrazgriz7674]

Greg is just a future politician

[@Man_Aslume]

He isn't a alien though

[@jessiemineimations]

4:22 is my favorite part

[@The_Homie_Bodie43]

YESSSSS

[@lpspinkylollipop]

4:21

[@S1nnyb1nny27]

Frank let your son get his bag you fukin limp dik

[@S1nnyb1nny27]

😂

[@risinghopper1213]

Is it bad that I related to Greg on a personal level while reading the book series as a kid? Like not the whole hurting my best friend thing and seeing him as a pet. But everything else was…kinda relatable.

[@user-ls1bw2uw1j]

Same

[@tridra5714]

It's cus he is not a sociapath Jeff Kinney just wrote him as a kid.

[@kingingrey1882]

Same here and it’s because he’s not a sociopath. Everything checks out except for the fact that he’s still a kid. Narcissist and emotionally immature sure but he’s only be a narcissist if he stayed this way into adulthood

[@cooldud7071]

Same because I was an outcast. Still am.

[@jxmmykriminallive]

@@kingingrey1882 no, if you relate to Greg then something is wrong w you, I never did anything bad when I was a kid so I can’t relate but you did so you can so idk what Greg’s talking about but you do cause you did bad things that made your parents upset but I didn’t do anything like that I was great but you weren’t cause Greg isn’t and you can relate closely to Greg and imagine yourself in the situations he gets himself into but o can’t I can’t even imagine doing anything Greg does cause it’s so bad he’s such a bad person but you can and you have and you do and you will because you can relate to him but I really can’t muchacho.

[@addyhasnothingtodo8711]

I feel like every fictional character I know has some weird theories about their mental health

[@miriampettit7115]

No fr, ppl rly make things overly complicated.

[@Peter_File69]

but this theory isn’t a weird one

[@rajajerbi5044]

😊

[@General_Mahacdonalds]

One thing though is that at the end of the first book Greg could have told everyone that Rowley ate the cheese as revenge or something but out of remorse and actual kindness for once he instead told everyone he touched the cheese and Greg got the cheese touch. This shows that Greg has at least some Unsociopathicness in his (if thats even a word)

[@frde2190]

I might be remembering wrong but wasn’t his actual reason for telling everyone he got rid of the cheese was too make everyone think he was some kind of hero?

[@crazycatladystudios]

Reading the books when they came out, I felt kinda bad for Greg because he was lonely, sometimes got bullied, and didn't want to get in trouble, even though I didn't really understand a lot of what he did. But now I really get why the other kids don't like him, and I feel like he gets away with way more than he should (including sneaking into girls' cabins at camp and blaming everything on his only friend, who he makes fun of)

[@aesiro1336]

Honestly, I'm just confused as to how this "normal" family ends up in some of the most bizarre and crazy situations. In fact, in book 15, they decide to go to a camp as a little vacation. Then, and I shit you not, at one point their trailer falls into a river and they all have to essentially surf it until they can get to dry land. Also, in the most recent book, Big Shot (no Spamton 😢), he gets into basketball to make his mom happy. Unfortunately, he sucks. So, his mom, being the Karen she is, gives Greg to the opposing team in the hope he'll screw it and have his original team win. Then he throws the ball backwards, gets a net, and wins the game. I feel for him.

[@iluvhowshedancin]

they get into crazy situation because its fiction and is meant for preteen entertainment

[@Invinci445]

Because it’s all from the perspective of Greg, so he’s bound to exaggerate stuff

[@isobelmiller7464]

4:57 Technically speaking, Rowley's not an actual dog in the play; he's a kid whose parents THINK he's a dog.

[@xD-nj7yu]

Eh bien, c'est comme ça que Greg le voit. un chien fidèle qui obéit à tous ses ordres,

[@isobelmiller7464]

@@xD-nj7yu I translated you...good point.

[@xD-nj7yu]

@@isobelmiller7464 merci

[@somestuff7228]

@@xD-nj7yu Je parle anglais, donc c'est traduit. Greg n'a que 11-13 ans dans les livres, et les enfants de cet âge ont tendance à avoir une haute opinion d'eux-mêmes. Et il joue le rôle de mari pour son béguin (Holly Hills).

[@toxicpoison-j8t]

@@somestuff7228 Je parle aussi français car je suis canadien et je ne pense pas que greg soit un sociopathe car il est trop jeune

[@enigma7310]

*That Plant story was wild tho...he caused a whole group people to move out and gut out the walls because of his pickyness...😂😂😂*

[@teresana21]

I just wanna say, sociopath is a laymens term and does not exist in the DSM-5 as a diagnosable condition. If we make the argument that Greg exhibits symptoms of Anti Social Personality, then all of this falls into place as people can be diagnosed with a disorder by way of a plethora of symptom combinations and intensities. Definitely qualifies as anti social tendencies.

[@morbidsearch]

And anti social is another term that people commonly misuse (confusing it with asocial)

[@colbyackermann]

Yeah? And a sociopath and psychopath are still different things we aren’t talking about ASPD we are talking about classifying his traits under sociopathy or psychopathy

[@jjhjhhhlkhdfkkhs]

@@morbidsearch ironically the word asocial is often used to mean antisocial, well, it is where i live. so i guess that phenomenon goes both ways sadly.

[@Waddleclaws]

This is a family that puts the fun in dysfunctional. I mean like it’s not only the heffley family members that the series focuses on. Before meemaw died, family members called dibs on furniture by putting sticky notes on them. And don’t forget that disorders, both good, bad and misunderstood, are often genetically inherited or influenced.

[@josier.819]

1:31 I laughed hard because of the way he said "honey this plant smells like sh*t"

[@sal.exe__1]

I’m a Sociopath, I can really relate to this and We arent born this way we are shaped into this horrible thing. I had a messed up family; A alcoholic mother, A father that abused my mother and me, A auntie that beat my mother and I pushed her over nearly killing her and the only thing I thought to do was smile and laugh because I had finally stop her from doing what she did to us, A control Freak Aunt that manipulated me into doing things I didn’t mean to do. Just to make everything worse I had “friends” that bullied me and after pretended like nothing had happened and called me slurs. I have trust issues because a girl that I had dated gaslit me and accused me of cheating, She nearly made me kill myself 3 times from the stress of having someone accuse me of doing things I would never do because I can barely go up to my teacher and ask them something let alone as a girl/boy to be my girlfriend/ boyfriend and have stopped eating because I deemed myself worthless and I shouldn’t eat because better people could have my food. My life hasn’t been Ohh Poor Me, I have done some pretty shitty things and have laughed at my old friends dog and mother dying and I don’t know why I just found it funny to see people cry because of the way people have set me up to be because if people cry they are “weak” which my father said to me and I have never had a tear ever leave my eye. Also me being Gay doesn’t help because people call me a f@g and a vile creature, disgusting fvck and hurting me. I am very good at hiding my feelings and using people for my advantage or just for me not to get abused Stay safe

[@ethansmith8463]

The truth is, it's really common for middle school kids (especially boys) to act really selfishly and not feel guilt/compassion. And besides, Greg HAS done done genuinely nice things in the past.

[@toxicpoison-j8t]

Like Taking stuff for the team

[@ainetheawesomegirl1357]

Middle school can mess people up

[@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917]

Can you name a few genuinely nice things he's done? I can't think of any.

[@ethansmith8463]

@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 he hid away a valuable diamond ring to prevent his family from getting in a big fight over it, he took the fall for the green dye incident, he willingly gave Manny some big-brotherly advice regarding Christmas wish lists, and he helped Rodrick with his science fair project.

[@batboybat7538]

Really depends om how you were raised and your friend group. And yea boys can show lack of empathy but girls often show fake happiness and start gossiping the second you turn around.

[@Benjamin1986980]

Greg isn't a sociopath. He's a preteen who doesn't understand what he's seeing and in many cases is actively lying to make himself look better to a teenager, but it makes him look much worse to an objective audience. There is a reason that this book is used as a quintessential example of the unreliable narrator in Middle schools I think the animated movie actually portrayed it best. Greg is still a jerk and coward, but in a way that you would expect from a 12-year-old.

[@johngr1747]

He's a little extreme for a 12 yo. Broke his best friend's arm and only felt envy because everyone was sympathetic to Rowley, he thinks lowly of everyone around him and way to highly about himself, the list goes on.

[@angel11207]

@@johngr1747 yes

[@3spoons366]

@JOHN GR "don't call me, don't come by my house, we're done."

[@chexrt630]

@@johngr1747 true tho

[@yvesus7]

@@johngr1747 yes

[@Haunted_Plush]

Kid me: "Yeah I guess I relate to Greg situation wise but I can't say I would make all the same decisions he did..." Adult me: *"Jesus christ this kid is f*ckin crazy"*

[@Goomba1309]

"we pretty much never see Greg do anything intentionally kind for anyone" Greg helping Rodrick with his school project no strings attached at the end of Rodrick Rules: *am I a joke to you?*

[@jarlathquinn2628]

Honestly the slander of a political enemy seems like it would happen to even a normal person

[@GunNr-]

That’s just politics.

[@jarlathquinn2628]

@@GunNr- that’s the joke

[@hajagameznstuff6956]

imagine Greg in Politigram lmao

[@Blue-fg8vt]

It's one of those things where it's normal you shouldn't do it but you'll be at a disadvantage if you don't.

[@jokelethkurueisner9229]

What’s weird is that it actually didn’t work in Greg’s case.

[@WickedPhase]

4:27 I love the voice acting lmaoo

[@goodiupdown]

While I admit, these things are bad, these are mostly coming from the earlier books. I think from Cabin fever and onward, (not including hard luck) greg has became less of a sociopath. An example of this is in Wrecking ball when rowley showed greg a collage of the memories they has, greg actually cried. If that doesnt prove that hes a little bit remorseful, i dont know what will.

[@johnnyfingersgood6927]

If we think logically, in his first diaries he was basically putting his feelings into the diary and I guess it kinda calmed him down, like in the getaway he didn’t seem that bad at all because he probably became more comfortable with his diaries and it got him to calm down and share his emotions in a better way.

[@bakedbeans5494]

He was never a sociopath.

[@asiscandyshop648]

Man these books are my whole childhood 😭 i recently read the 16th book and I actually hope the series never ends

[@Tendra-]

Same I red all the books except for 2

[@aasif69603]

My childhood is officially ruined

[@MrBilly456]

I'm traumatized, I readed the first 6 books or so when I was younger and never imagined the main character was a sociopath (even if it was quite obvious)

[@theplushproduction5394]

I do remember a tweet that Jeff made for the whole Greg is a sociopath thing with saying that no, he is not a sociopath and from early interviews, Greg is based off of Jeff himself. So the things that I can piece together is: ether Jeff was a sociopath at one point or his family was just like Greg’s. Where there actions eventually turned him into a sociopath, making him care less about everyone around him and only himself

[@rawcookiedough7518]

If Jeff is a sociopath he's either lying or doesn't know

[@MustacheCashStash125]

He sounds like he’s prosecuting Greg in Court.

[@thelazygamer2195]

That grandma impression legitimately killed me

[@aidenwilsonthebitterfilmsf2730]

Let me get another thing straight: I have been reading the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series since a bit after its inception in 2007. But as I've gotten older, I've been noticing more and more problems come up with the books, and particularly some of Jeff Kinney's decisions as an author. So let's dive right in: The books are supposedly "timeless" Timeless? How? This is supposed to be a coming-of-age series about a middle-schooler growing up. How would the reader be interested in future books if Greg Heffley does not age at all, and does not grow up and learn? Which brings up another thing: Greg NEVER seems to learn anything. He never carries knowledge from one book to another, aside from a few instances. For example, in The Ugly Truth, he mentions he ruled Fregley out as friend material "a long time ago", or during the time of the first book. Things like this are really it. Other than that, Greg doesn't progress as a character at all. But I'll go more into this in a bit, especially regarding other characters. Greg is a sociopath Oh? I could see that. I've read and watched plenty of analysises--analysi? whatever--about how Greg is really a growing sociopath, and I could totally buy it. He's a narcissist who manipulates people around him. While he's not a TERRIBLE person per se, why would any parent see him as a good role model for their kids? I'm asking because I'll admit, when I was a kid I used to want to be like Greg--a middle schooler who doesn’t give a care about anythingTo me that seemed like the "cool" way to go about school. I'm older now, of course, and less naive. Every character has been "Flanderized" Firstly, if you don't know what that means, Flanderized just means when one trait of a character just ends up becoming their entire personality. It's so-called because of Flanders from The Simpsons. Anyway, let's go through all the major characters, shall we? Surely they can't ALL be like this, right? Unfortunately yes, I'm afraid: Greg - sociopath who doesn't care Rowley - a four-year-old stuck in a middle-schooler's body Roderick - a idiot metalhead Susan - the overly-cliche "go-outside-and-stop-playing-on-your-electronics" type of mom who's also so out-of-touch to a delusional degree, and it gets really tiring after a while Frank - the dad who only cares about his kids being tough and boring and going out to "pLaY sPeRtS", but is boring himself (HOWEVER, I must say I really liked him and his relationship with Greg in the latter half of Old School) Manny - a little jerk who's really pampered yet thinks and acts like a psychopath (I've heard he's modeled after Jeff's real-life younger brother, which is just terrifying) Besides this, the series often introduces new characters, but then gives them nothing big to do and then abandons them: Abigail - had potential, but then turned out to be a bitch and "just using Rowley to get back with her old boyfriend", which is a total cop-out of a character motivation. She could've stayed longer, and really played off of Greg and Rowley really well. The pig - eh, I don't really care for this character, and he's really intelligent to an almost-scary degree. The only good part about him was that he was modeled after Napoleon from George Orwell's Animal Farm, which is honestly really cool. But then, the pig just runs away, and that's that. Whoopie. Holly Hills, Chirag, Patty, and Fregley - this is where the movies REALLY improve over the books. These characters are present throughout the whole trilogy, and actually have layers. In the books, however, they do not. And it doesn't help that we haven't seen them in forever. Because Jeff can't keep track of what goes on in his own series. He keeps abandoning old ideas and going for new ones that don't even stay long anyway. Finally, since the series is supposedly "timeless", these characters never GROW. And I have to say, this is one of, if not THE, biggest problem with Diary of a Wimpy Kid. Why should we care about these characters if they never evolve? They've all been rendered moot and uninteresting, and I'll explain why in a moment. But really, this is not how you write coming-of-age stories, or really stories in general. There's a time and a place, as well as a certain kind of genre, and this isn't it. The series has long since lost its intrigue See, coming-of-age stories are all about growing up and learning from the things that happen to you. How do you deal with situations? It's all in how characters and stories are written. But, of course, Jeff doesn't seem to even understand this. The books have just evolved to be joke after joke, trying again and again to throw crap at the wall and hope it sticks. Let me explain: There's been a pattern with each preceding book, notably the last several most recent ones, where the entire first half is Greg telling the reader some kind of story from his childhood, whether it be something he did, or something he believed and still does, or something of the sort. Story after story, this just keeps going on until a few things outside do happen, but they do not influence the book as a whole. And then, in the last THIRD of the book is when the "main plot" kicks in, but by then it's too late. It's too late to have any kind of impact, because I'm usually drained from frustration by this point. And when the main premise happens, the climax happens, and then Greg concludes the book with one last entry telling of the aftermath. And then he reiterates some kind of running gag or thing he mentioned earlier, and that's where the book is trunkaded. This is the case up until Wrecking Ball, which I can't speak for as I have not yet read it. Nor have I read Diary of an Awesome Friendly Kid. There's an extra problem to this: I have gone back and read the first few books, and aside from the first one they too suffer from this problem of being "timeless", as well as not evolving any characters or subplots. This is also where the movies take the lead; the trilogy actually has scenes and moments that feel real, featuring characters that feel real. The books, however, suffer from a lack of this. So, that's all I can think of off the top of my head. If I think of anything else, I'll add it in later. But for now, please tell me your thoughts in the comments--what do you think of my analysis? Better yet, what do you yourself think? Do you agree or disagree with anything I've said today? I genuinely want to know your thoughts, but for now I want to thank you for allowing me to finally get this off my chest, as I've had it in me for a long time.

[@norahyeung0402]

Agree. And I really think Jeff should learn from the movie trilogy; his books will improve so much.

[@aidenwilsonthebitterfilmsf2730]

@@norahyeung0402jeff kinney should retire

[@aidenwilsonthebitterfilmsf2730]

@@norahyeung0402 jeff kinney is a terrible author and should retire diary of a wimpy kid is a horrible book series and doesn’t deserve to be remembered as nostalgic #jeffkinneyshouldretire #endwimpykid

[@CIAtargets]

It's the "That '70s Show" problem- It's such an important plot point that Greg be in middle school/a preteen that if he were to advance/grow up, the series would essentially end. So each book takes up a smaller and smaller amount of canonical time-first, a school year, then, a semester, then, only a few weeks, and so on. I don't know if there's an actual name for that phenomenon, I just kinda made that up as an example, but it might explain the lack of aging, at least to a degree.

[@AjitaniShirasu]

Ok but Greg's grandmother calling her son "limp dik" had me cackling like a witch I'm not even kidding

[@Mothsune]

6:40 i mean in the movie rowley did say you are a terrible friend but sadly he didn't kill greg

[@itsmeaiden8788]

That's the R-Rated version

[@Mister_Oddity]

it would've made the movie better

[@FruityFut]

Technically at 3:13 Greg is doing the kindest act ever: killing Manny Heffley

[@redfatseal2407]

ikr, manny deserved it more than anyone

[@affanozbay9427]

Knowing bis mother, I am just surprised that Greg ISN‘T a Psychopath

[@Wonha865]

Psychopaths are born while sociopaths are made

[@KaleemJameela]

​@@Wonha865i am born balck

[@Wonha865]

@@KaleemJameela congrats

[@deltarunesans6442]

another example (if you're still not convinced) is that in rowley's spooky stories book, the last story is about him and greg having a sleepover at rowley's house. rowley wanted to watch the movie that his parents got him, but greg had stolen a movie from rodrick about a demon who possesses a teenager. it was so scary for rowley, he turned it off halfway through. greg than pretended to turn into the demon, which scared the absolute sh*t out of rowley. greg sprayed arts and crafts all over the basement, he absolutely DEVOURED all the snacks, so much so that rowley hid himself in his bathroom. he looked up how to get rid of demons, but none of them made any sense. greg then proceeded to PICK THE LOCK ON THE BATHROOM, and had rowley cornered. rowley then discovered that you don't actually need holy water to get rid of a demon, you can just use normal water. greg cursed, which woke up rowley's parents, and he had to go home. need i go on?

[@melonnationxp]

Rowley was an idiot for believing that was real

[@aidenwilsonthebitterfilmsf2730]

i hate diary of a wimpy kid

[@yoro__33]

honestly just sounds like regular middle school shenanigans

[@Sonilotos]

​@@yoro__33Fr bro, this comment section's exaggerating everything

[@anyamusume253]

Their just kids, making it worse. This kid is a manipulative arsehole, and if he is just a kid, imagine how he will be as an adult?😊

[@kk_butterfly]

Greg Heffley really is a messed up person

[@osmanyousif7849]

Do you think he would ever learn? I mean seeing how much of a narcissist, a bit of a psychopath, and sociopath, who’s both disturbed, sexist, and always insults the elderly, he would figure that he is the problem.

[@aidentoons]

Agreed

[@mariustan9275]

@@osmanyousif7849 I mean look at his family. How is he supposed to tell right from wrong?

[@lusakapijimpanga4134]

@@osmanyousif7849 after 13 or so books, it’s safe to say that he won’t change until Jeff Kinney decides enough is enough.

[@mystery4561]

@@aidentoons his family life plays a role in that.

[@hattoripool1533]

The Devil eggs one sounds like the Ultimate prank to piss someone off

[@jbcatz5]

In an episode of Gilmore Girls Lorelai and Rory come home with deviled eggs and decide to egg Jess’s car. When Luke sees the aftermath he’s amused someone went to the effort of preparing them just to mess with Jess.

[@JustAGumbyLilGoober]

1:36 plastic plants tend to do that

[@daman8659]

7:25 That is a good point but i think he was smiling when he first arrived on that resort in the getaway book

[@randompoorlydrawndragon3076]

In other words, Greg is your regular old Narcissistic, Egotistical protagonist that thinks the world should revolve around him and ONLY him Though, there ARE times when he actually does something good, it's still really rare tho

[@mariustan9275]

In other words, he's a kid.

[@randompoorlydrawndragon3076]

@@mariustan9275 a very narcissistic kid

[@emperor_msk]

I'm usually the "not doing bad intentionally". I'm really careful with what I do, as I don't want to be annoying, nor I want anything bad to happen to anyone. I just don't wanna anger anyone (which is why I apologize like 10000000000 times).

[@wholethedogsout880]

@@mariustan9275 yeah i wasnt like that as a kid idk what you're talking about

[@thesenate9319]

Here are some examples of why live-action Greg is a much better person than his books counterpart. 1. He took the blame for Rowley eating the cheese touch 2. He did the magic show with Rowley to let Rodrick play in the talent show. 3. He helped Rodrick get a gig for Heather Hill's sweet 16 out of the goodness of his heart. 4. He wanted to stand up for his dad by humiliating the troop master that insulted him behind his back. 5. He overall learned great life lessons in things such as humility and humbleness throughout the main trilogy.

[@simpleviewer1334]

He did do some of these things in the book but good point

[@pinefreshofficial]

and he is actually pretty nice in the animated movies I mean he is just a regular middle school in those

[@hattoripool1533]

With all the weird stuff Greg has drawn you would think he would be one of those weird rule 34 artworks

[@ArnoldStark123]

Jeff Kinney said that Greg is not a sociopath someone asked him on twitter and he said and I quote Twitter user: is Greg heffly a sociopath Jeff Kinney: nah

[@Ieatchocolatepepole]

5:49 Greg is STANDING HERE AND REALISING that he really likes Rowley.... But he is more like a pet to him.

[@fiddink6058]

YOU ARE JUST LIKE ME TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY

[@Ieatchocolatepepole]

@@fiddink6058 BUT WHOSE TO JUDGE, THE RIGHT FROM WRONG, WHEN OUR GURD IS DOWN I THINK WE BOTH AGREE

[@Wall.Wall_Wall]

He has a pet kink a humiliation kink AND a feet kink!?

[@usa9103]

Fun fact in Rowley's first book (diary of an awesome friendly kid) Greg LITRLEY LEAVES ROWLEY IN THE FOREST TO DIE WITH NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD also Rowley's talks about how Greg literally manipulates him and at the start of the book when Rowley tells Greg about his dairy Greg says that he stole and that he is gonna sue him and he smacks him with his diary and Greg then trys to use Rowley's diary as a his own biographie...

[@medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6]

Well technically speaking a minor can not be diagnosed as a sociopath. At most they can be diagnosed with is sociopathic tendencies. This is because minors tend to exhibit sociopathic-esque traits, without becoming sociopaths in adulthood.

[@mariustan9275]

Yep

[@YourPalKindred]

Yeah honestly like, when I was a minor I lacked a lot of empathy and honesty thought I was some sociopath or something. It genuinely concerned me but I couldn't bring myself to give a damn about others at that time. As I got older though, around 17-19 is when empathy started really developing for me. Which could be late, I have no idea, but now I'm so empathetic I cry about things that are completely imaginary

[@medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6]

@DropkicktheDecepticon an issue of what?

[@medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6]

@DropkicktheDecepticon No, we couldn’t. One we can’t fully detect they’re a sociopath as children, not all sociopaths become serial killers, in fact a small minority actually do. Also you can’t stop them from being sociopaths as kids. The best way to treat sociopathy is to treat the adults with therapy, and a healthy amount of prescribed drugs.

[@medi0cre_pr0ducti0ns6]

@DropkicktheDecepticon Also this promotes the problematic idea sociopath just means evil person that should be eradicated, but it isn’t. Sociopathy is a mental disorder, and like other mental disorders it can be treated in a humane and effective fashion.

[@juniper5604]

In rowley's diary, it says he once tried to get rowley's grade raised because he was the only one who did any work. Right after he said that instead of them being even for a previous favor Rowley owed him a lot more, but oh well

[@glam4663]

How Greg treats Rowley reminds me of how the mean girl/ school bully in other works of fiction treat thier "best friend "

[@pory913]

Greg is a girl confirmed

[@OrlandoBrony]

After watching this video I can't help but imagine a future where both of Rodrick brothers are criminals behind bars and Rodrick has completely distanced himself from his toxic parents. Yikes, man's gonna need a lot of support

[@Nic_2751]

Greg’s distorted family brought out the worst in him, Rodrick being normal because he actually has a passion and plan for something in his life, despite his lack luster decisions that aren’t him using his street smarts, at least makes him likeable, wanting to root for him cause he does at least care, Greg is a near lost cause.

[@JohnPerry27]

What's his plan? Loded Diper is certainly his passion but I don't think it's going to be paying the bills (unless in one of the recent books Roddick and his band actually did take off or he found some new career).

[@Nic_2751]

@@JohnPerry27 well baby steps, if does make bangers (it’s Rodrick of course he does), then he’ll sell albums, maybe get a slight lift and manage to pull his weight.

[@JohnPerry27]

@@Nic_2751 Considering social media Rodrick's chances of success are actually a lot higher than I gave him credit for.

[@Nic_2751]

@@JohnPerry27 even better example I left out, great work.

[@r5t6y7u8]

I think it's the opposite. Rodrick is a mean-spirited bully and Manny is a spoiled brat. Greg is just your average immature 11-year-old who ducks responsibility. All three will grow up when real life slaps them in the face.

[@caitlinmorris5064]

Well Greg does do wack shit but he does sometimes get punished for it, so he's not exactly the most cunning and secretive sociopath

[@jbcatz5]

There are times where as part of character development he does own up or take the fall. At the end of the first book he’s willing to say he ate the cheese so Rowley won’t become a social pariah, even if he does pass the cheese touch into an unsuspected new student.

[@caitlinmorris5064]

@@jbcatz5 ok true

[@redfatseal2407]

At least he get punished for his actions while manny get away with everything

[@TheImpalerPrince877]

Sociopaths aren't cunning. They aren't even aware of their behaviors, until someone brings it up. Psychopaths, are the direct opposite.

[@GTylker]

Litterally the only time I can recall greg doing something nice "just because" was when he didn't tell vice principal roy that rowley was the other person who "terrorised" the school.

[@rawcookiedough7518]

He also hid meemaw's ring in his mom's closet because he knew the family almost ripped itself apart just looking for it and wanted to avoid that happening again

[@scotspotting]

5:42 that's like shooting someone in the leg because they were making jokes about guns

[@KL-ki8db]

Correction for 4:15. Gramma is not Frank's mother, but his mother-in-law. Nevertheless, it is clever of Greg to invite her as Frank doesn't feel like yelling in front of his mother-in-law.

[@stormynight4895]

We're supposed to sympathize with him. Either the author has no idea how kids act, or kids are ALOT eviler than I remember. I'm leaning on the latter.

[@iuploadthings8481]

how was this posted 14 hours ago 😶

[@kk_butterfly]

@TrainerblueTube i mean i've commented on a video like 2 hours before it came out cuz it was out for a little while but i wasn't a member so idk

[@stormynight4895]

Patreon perks!

[@jbcatz5]

The American education system doesn’t get a flattering depiction, so I’d be surprised if the students were seen through anything but jade coloured glasses.

[@iuploadthings8481]

@TrainerblueTube oh

[@aureliamastergoomba1278]

7:49 Can you really BLAME him for his actions though?! Most of his family is crazy, and his parents didn’t show much affection so of course he’s gone insane and smiles at those times! His family didn’t teach him those things

[@redfatseal2407]

Yeah, the only one who smiles when hurting people is rodrick. Cus other than that, he's just an emo grumpy looking Teen

[@miguelgibbs]

5:57 wattpad peeps about to write about how this is gregs fantasy

[@kk_butterfly]

the voice acting is so GOOD

[@KooshaKarimi]

Everybody gangsta till Pies chokes while saying Manny's name.

[@killminewin4733]

"I think 'Dorothy' deserved it." - Frank Heffley, Diary Of A Wimpy Kid Movie

[@hunterolaughlin]

If it’s Patty Farrell in the role, then yes she does deserve it. Holly Hills would be more suited for Dorothy than Patty.

[@rheatuliao9192]

Gay greg 3:56 Great voice 4:21 A abused friend 4:37 Game dev greg 4:51 Cursed moment 5:00 Injury incident 5:11 Mean greg 5:22 Clown greg 5:32 Dumbell incident 5:36 Super saiyen rowley 5:42 Swearing rowley also 5:42 Cursed moment 2 5:54 Workers 6:01 Rowley incident 6:04 Rowley kills greg 6:40 No lie ice cream 7:03 Not normal greg 7:15 Note 7:12

[@blackhoodie1132]

I always knew there was something wrong with Greg when I was reading diary of a wimpy kid, I just never could put my finger on it. Thanks for finally making me understand what it was