Why Hasn't Anyone Else Done This Before? - 3FUL Gear Taiji 2 First Look

[@rthompson884]

I purchased the 3-season version and the 4-season inner separately. I have been following Luke on this tent. He has been spot on. I have shared my testing with him as well. I live in a rather unique area of Texas and recently did my testing. I waited for a combination of Wind, rain and a bonus of pea sized to marble sized hail. I tested this out when we were having severe weather and tornado warnings out. I know Luke said something about some minor seam leaking around the vents so I wanted to be sure to watch for those areas. Our weather on this day was 35-50 mph winds with rain and small hail. I had the vents closed and I had the 3-season inner installed. I put about 50lbs of weight in the tent to keep it on the ground. I also had it completely pegged out because of the wind driven rain and hail prospect. I might add I added 2 additional guy lines to the tent body just in case. To make a long story short, I thought the tent was a goner but, it withstood everything and upon inspecting it after the storm passed, I only found two small drops of water, which I felt came from the wind driven rain through the vent that was up wind. Two small drops on the inner opposite the vent area. I had no issues with waterproofing, it handled a storm that would have torn up my umbrella tent and left in in a pile. Like I say I was very impressed with the tent. I did make one modification to my tent before testing, I tied all of the poles with a zip tie at the top keeping them linked together a just in case safeguard because of the wind. I purchased the Kaki version and love it.....maybe this will help some of you. I look forward to hearing from Luke on his storm testing....

[@seasoldier3902]

I have had my four-season tent ,in the UK, for just under one year. A good piece of kit, no problems at all.

[@OldFellaDave]

The 3FUL Lanshan 2 has 3 and 4 season swappable inners as well and is a trekking pole tent and less than half the weight of this one. Had it for years and its awesome, still no leaks, tears or rips ;)

[@StreetDogSteve]

Well a trekking pole tent is going to weigh less. Whats the weight in total with your poles? Also, the total weightr of this WOULD be less if you remove the footprint and the pegs you dont need.

[@bartonianoutdoors]

I have the 1 person 3FULGEAR Lanshan (not the pro version) with both 3 & 4 season inners, it's so versatile. also I've used it with no inner as a tarp tent which you could also do with the Taiji !

[@ComandoWitty]

My 50 cents: It's honestly refreshing to see a product which wants to give it's customers the most without taking the most. This tent just gives off a passionate energy from the creators who designed it. I see the passion in how they didn't cut corners with the material quality to the size of the tent. Many generic tents will (like you say) say it's for two people yet be so cramped, while also providing cheap materials. 3FUL just radiates with the desire to wanting to provide a quality tent with premium features for a fair price. It's like a steak. You know a good butcher based off his cuts. Like i said, many brands will make you buy two separate tents for two things. The fact that you can practically own a winter tent and a summer tent is amazing. It shows that this product what intended to last and instead of having to buy a new own, you can simply keep on enjoying your tent by being able to winterize it. The winterizing process isnt even janky either. It's done so well. You don't have to buy a process to backwoods rig it to be warm. Everything this company has done to make this tent was done with care and passion. I cant wait to see more vids on this tent!

[@richard_n]

I'm really looking forward to the storm test on this one. I love being able to have one tent that can be year round since we have hot summers and cold winters here.

[@Cloax]

AGREE i def want to upgrade from this crappy walmart tent i have and really hit the trails!

[@earlshaner4441]

Just got home from a 4 day campout and high winds and the cheap stakes bent and I had use heavy duty tent stakes to stake down the new tent thank God for the rule of 3 - 3 ways to do everything

[@tigga1231]

Well this might be my next purchase depending on how it handles rain and condensation, looks promising! Look forward to final review

[@leoreodcinn9153]

I have just come back from a trip with this tent (3 season, khaki) and have a few points +/-: (We were 2 people, 1 camp in Thetford Forest, and 2 camps on peaks (Kinder Scout and Derwent Edge)). + Re: guyline points. You can actually order more guyline 'rings' (attachment points) when you purchase the tent. I asked the retailer and was given 4 extra as well as 4 extra guyline cords for free. This means I now have the possibility of 4 guylines on each pole. I'm yet to attach them as it is spring-summer but my only concern would be the black clips (where the fly clips onto the pole) getting in the way of attaching another. But I'm yet to try! +On all nights we had 0 condensation with 2 people, all doors zipped up. Dry as a bone. +In the forest the colour blended in ridiculously well, great for 'stealth' camping. +Upon Kinder Scout we had pretty exposed location with breeze with fair gusts (35-40mph give or take?) and the tent felt sturdy, and that was with awkward peg locations and 4 guy lines. I'd be hesitant in 40+mph winds, especially constant ones. +The room was magnificent. I had my Forclaz MT500 mat with a Fjallraven Keb 52 at my feet comfortably. My partner had a Thermarest (really long one) with a 30l pack at her feet comfortably. There was room between our mats. +Being able to roll back both the door and vestibule allowed us to really appreciate where we camped. +Setup options are fantastic. With or without the groundsheet, with or without the inner, freestanding so you can move it etc. -Haven't tested this in any rain events yet -My only minor gripes are that the topmost 'hub' the poles clip into is quite difficult to clip in and out of. Instead of pulling out the poles, twist them out sideways. -The black plastic ring and hook system for the inner, groundsheet and door-holders is a bit of a pain. But there is a knack to it. Instead of pulling the hook off, twist it out sideways. The rings come out easier. -I wish there were double zips on the doors -We were limited to where we could pitch due to the size - but there was no way around that! Perhaps not ideal for a solo hiker though.

[@shirleyhall1924]

Man, that price is awesome. I really hope it's waterproof. I'm glad to see there are companies making quality and affordable gear.

[@Blackbears00]

Put a tarp over it 😂

[@dancinbear01]

It's a great tent. I've got that exact one and it's waterproof too

[@brianwest5348]

@@dancinbear01 Have you had it out on windy days?

[@dancinbear01]

@@brianwest5348 it's ok Brain, however I did by extra tie out loops to put on the poles higher up and it's worked extremely well. You can email Colin and he will send you some. 👍

[@scherry2900]

I have a lanshan 2 and carbon trekking poles from 3FUL. Great company. Used it multiple times in the alps and on the GR20 what is a quality test for all your equipment.

[@PWCDN]

Fly first tent answers my question. I tried to pitch a mesh first tent in the rain, it was no fun. I also appreciate a mesh tent for ventilation and prevent condensation. A fly first tent thats portable and works is an amazing achievement. Waterproofing is the only test left that'll make this the best 2P tent on the market. I had to buy a waterproof tarp as a secondary shelter in case I have to pitch my mesh tent in the rain after that one miserable trip. All in all I spent over $600 for my mesh tent, waterproof tarp and poles which is easily all replaced by this one tent. Impressive.

[@cristibaluta]

You can usually mount the fly first to any tent if you have their ground sheet. If not, you can build something from a thin thread

[@PWCDN]

@@cristibaluta Let me give that a try next trip, thanks for the tip!

[@Mickoutdoors]

I have this tent, had it for about 2 years and love it, so quick and easy to set up, mine has never leaked, if you seperate the poles out it packs down pretty small, and I have no problem getting it in my 40/50ltr backpack with all my other gear, one word of warning though this tent is not designed to be out in strong winds or even moderate winds for prolonged periods, it simply won't stand up to that, I use mine for predominantly low level camping, as long as you're aware of this tents limitations it's a fantastic spacious relatively light full 2 person tent 😉👍

[@lakorai2]

Tarptent has been selling seperate solid and mesh inners for quite a while. Their tents are quite a bit more expensive though.

[@fero-outdoors]

I did that with my lanshan 1. If you don't get the pro version you have the possibility of swapping the inner tent. With less than 200 euros I now have a tarp (if I use the fly alone) a summer and a winter(ish) tent !

[@jamesellsworth9673]

So far, this tent seems to be especially well-designed for function. I LIKE the 2-person plus gear format. I LOVE the potential to convert to cold weather use. The vestibule(s) are well-suited to alcohol or butane gas stove use for limited food and beverage preparation.

[@kateq7212]

It looks good. I do worry that the poles on the outside of the tent will ice up in cold weather. Not that I am tent camping in cold weather anymore!

[@jamesbloom3538]

In the UK- we've had this tent for quite a while. Most people here won't even entertain a inner fly pitch first because it rains a lot 😂. The HH of this tent is also pretty typical. Have a look at Tera Nova, Wild County, Hilleberg or Vango.

[@jenniferstewarts4851]

its one thing i love about sidewall camping. the ability to add insulation as needed. to add layers to the tent. the further into winter you get the more you can add on so you are comphy and warm at -40 or below. with the thick inner liner, the heavy canvas base, and the fly. if the weather warms up you can pull down the inner liner... (or leave it in if you are going to add an AC unit)

[@boxerdog5979]

I never plan on camping, but I love your videos. Very informative and fun to watch. Honest reviews.

[@AudiaciousLife]

hey you finally got it, i was waiting for this video.

[@davefeatherstone4178]

from the UK - most of the tents in the UK are like this form factor, as 80% of the year the weather can wet and windy ulita lightweight tents don't handle our weather very well

[@TheWestlandgirl]

The size, the quality, the price, the ease of set up, the weight everything adds up to a 9. A 10 would be given if the guidelines were higher as you stated.

[@j78987]

Size is awesome. Will fit two 25" pads but not much more internally. Other stuff of course can be kept in the vestibules. Only one pocket. Vestibules are good in that they are wide but they could be deeper. I've used this tent in 41mph winds in snowy conditions. It held up fine, although it did get buffeted fairly heavily and the poles did flex.

[@chrismoore600]

The military have been doing this for years nice to see it in the camping world. And the price is good for a all around tent. I have the same 4 season in the lanshan 2.

[@b5maddog]

Looking forward to see the rain proof part of the review. Looks really good so far.

[@rthompson884]

I want to see the rain test too, I don't want to unwrap my tent until the rain test is over. Some other KZbin testers have mixed feelings about it being waterproof. Some I have read say that it leaks around the vents and around some of the guyout points, others have experienced little leaking issues. It may well be that Luke is right and it just needs to be seam treatment around those areas. I have asked the company about those issues and have not yet heard back from them as yet. Another thing to review if you are thinking about purchasing one of these is the warrantee and return policy. I would read those before purchasing the tent. I agree in that this is a good quality tent and for $100 more you can have a 4-season inner, and thus a multi-season tent all in one. Now what to do with all of the others we have collected?

[@georgekrpan3181]

Fantastic and it's a rectangular dome with side entries, the absolute best design. Quick fly first setup with inner tent attached. NO POLE SLEEVES, YES! Nylon instead of polyester.

[@WardenWolf]

Most of my camping is in colder weather, and I live in Arizona so even in the high forests condensation really isn't an issue. Sub-50 degrees, you really want a 4th season tent. I'd probably buy the 4th season version because of this.

[@ericwitt4586]

I grew out of sleeping on the ground lol I’m 57 years old so I bought a turn key cabin no power or power either but she has solar panels and inverters and batteries and it has water catches too 800 gallons and a 12 volt pump it’s got a septic system too but I have a old Remington done tent and it’s been thru torrential rains and 18 degree winter ❄️ weather she has been the best ten I’ve ever had bud!!

[@Ryanboy2020]

Great job Luke! This looks like a great tent. I will wait for the rain testing but at 5000 rating it's got to be good.

[@olegmamontov5692]

Thank you sir. I love when people show equipment they actually used and present used info.

[@outdooradventures4250]

I own this tent and used it in the uk , Brecon beacons ,Cribyn on a summers night .The winds picked up and the poles bent that much the tent was virtually flat on the ground and i had to bail camp.

[@stepchild3500]

Just what I've been looking for so far. Looking forward to your other test. Thanks for all you do Luke and Susan.

[@jeffgalpin3153]

Thanks for your work, nice to find a reviewer that looks at good mid priced equipment, most outdoor reviews are only the extremely expensive gear

[@iberiksoderblom]

3FUL are doing things very right.

[@richlovin2173]

LUKE, THE DARK GLASSES REDUCE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF YOUR PRESENTATION!!!

[@jcnikoley]

Looks really good. It could be amazing with a second 4th season fly (instead of 4th season inner). If I needed a tent, I’d buy this. Still tempted to anyway.

[@Robert-yp9zs]

Absolutely spot on! I hope that more tent manufacturers will come up with the "convertible" ability of this tent--one fly with a 3-season and a 4-season inner layer.

[@gillie-monger3394]

Check out almost any quality European made tent then, they're almost always fly-first and often with a choice of mesh or fabric inner.

[@Robert-yp9zs]

@@gillie-monger3394 Therein probably lies the difference--European vs US.

[@kenwebster5053]

Well, it commonly gets to -10C in the countryside here in winter & I have never found it necessary to have a 4th season tent. When you tucked up in a sleeping bag, how much difference can a wall of ultra thin nylon make, when the wind is buffeting everything about & turning you tent into a bellows anyway. For the price though I'd still get both inners anyway, except that I don't need a 2 man and already have an X-Mid 1P. If I was getting a 2P, it would be another X-Mid, for comfort, weight, packability & durability. Yes it costs more.

[@Tanko3691]

Great video, I like the look of it, but I guess it's not wind tested to EN5912 ? I suppose if it was it wouldn't have those big unsuported panels.

[@benjaminhymes1219]

The landshan 2 and 1 has a winter inner as well that you can buy separately. Nice review and a nice tent.

[@Joe_HamRadioGuy]

That's a very nice tent. I hope it passes the rain test. Pulling the fly away from the body is definitely a plus hope they address that issue. S&H 💪🏼✌🏼

[@suezaple4950]

I really am Impressed with this tent love everything about it tons of space, vestebule, comes with a ground sheet and so on sounds perfect. Sure hope it dosnt leak that would be a let down. Cant wait until the rain test. Price sounds great.

[@robertnorman2333]

So far it looks like a great tent, looking forward to your in-depth testing Luke, stay safe.

[@sticktoyourdrums8177]

I guess you could use sort of a button rock to tie lines to. Just make sure what you use won’t damage the tent. I’ve done that with tarp camping.

[@ankushkaul5092]

Great review as always! Would love to see a comparison video with Naturehike Mongar 2.

[@Coreficus_02]

This looks like the best tent you have demonstrated in a while!!!

[@tinbarnranch]

So far.....very sweet. The journey continues.

[@elfprincessplume2515]

If you end up recommending this tent, I am going to purchase it. This is exactly what I'm looking for in a 3/4 season tent and the price is good for what you're getting. Looking forward to the review of this tent.

[@philgardiner445]

Luke is a savvy KZbin operator - stretching out a tent review over multiple episodes.

[@howardtownsend3139]

Brilliant initial review. Looking forward to more info on this tent. 👍🏻

[@TimmyBobinson]

Thank you for the comprehensive introduction.

[@casper2256]

Stake down the four corners wider apart and diagonal from opposite corner will reduce the amount of fabric give at the ends.

[@jaretmoskal5558]

A tent that you can set up in the rain seems like common sense to me. I hope that fly first tents become more common in the US. Really glad to see the innovation with the swappable inners

[@James-c6m8q]

so far I like this tent, waiting for the rain test!

[@robgerety]

Thanks for the preview. I'd like to see that tent tested in high wind and snow. I'm skeptical it will hold up to truly severe weather in an exposed location. BTW - Hilleberg tents, far more robust and far more expensive, have the same feature where the fly is attached to an inner tent that can be removed, swapped, and the tents can be set up in rain without the inner body getting wet. I agree, that is a nice feature. Generally, a dome style tent, as opposed to a tube style tent, will benefit greatly from having more crossed poles, generally three-four for the main tent, and one for the vestibule(s).

[@robkunzig5795]

as always, thorough review - loved, and rewatched the drone footage going up through the mist, stunning - thanks Luke

[@markthomas2436]

I like it. Nice tent, and nice color. VERY lightweight. I like the green even more than the grey.

[@dwaynebeavers2088]

If I didn't have mobility problems this would be a great tent to have for all year round especially to be able to change out the inner body and not having to buy a different tent for the different seasons and the price is very reasonable.

[@samuelsiedschlag4486]

Looks great! Looking forward to the review from Luke.

[@soniayoung7531]

Looking forward for the rain review, thanks for sharing

[@bangbangcfp]

I have a Kodiak 9x8. Car camper, but usually long term. 2 weeks.., Have you ever tried a Kodiak? I’ve followed you for years so I don’t think so? But, I like to stand up in my tent, cook at times. And stay awhile. Not really your style I guess? But it would be great. Your wife would probably love it ?!😊

[@joker2100]

It's like a REI Half Dome but with the poles on the outside so you can setup the rain fly first. Nice!

[@fartman10284]

Frozen pole clips would probably be a PITA to tear down in winter conditions. Hilleberg with the summer inner would be better.... but Hilleberg comes with its huge price tag.

[@peacefulplaces3634]

Huge difference in price from my Litefighter 2AI, which I bought for the 3-4 season variability. Better weight too.

[@lindaSee89]

Finally a decent 2 person tent.

[@DarkMetaOFFICIAL]

i was in a 400 person tent the other day 😂 i was thinking you should do a review. but it requires 3 days to set up, a diesel generator, 2 cranes, and a crew of 40 men.

[@hammer9390]

Looking forward to the complete testing series on this tent. Great video.

[@IMDARKFIRE007]

That's a great tent if it's waterproof....and for wind resistance, a simple DIY guy line using a pebble would do the trick.

[@rachealstinnett5829]

Mt Man here 👍👍 keep the good gear in an the junk going out

[@Riverman2012]

Rain on a fly that is pushed onto the inner by wind means you're going to get wet, surely? It will be an interesting weather test and I look forward to it.

[@KirstenBayes]

Not quite long enough for me/mine (tall family). Was thinking: have had no problems at all with my 3F UL tents/tarps. They just work.

[@bimazivanovic4784]

Hi Luke,i was considering buying this tent for 2p cycle touring as it tick's the boxes many more expensive tent's don't. For starters it is fly first,which is very important to me. The only thing that has put me off is poor wind performance that i have seen in some videos. There is a video though,that shows how you can add another one of those metal things for guylines. So you can have two guylines on the poles. Which increases the strength but is still questionable.

[@cmlgolfmaster]

Buy a 30 dollar tent a decent tarp, trench around your tent for rain and you are good, paying 150-200 tents is ridiculous ! I've stayed in a 20 dollar tent in the smokey mountains and in alaska for weeks at a time with no issues! Just crazy what some people pay for tents with huge issues when it can be fixed with simple steps.

[@tei1337]

The seappsble innerst ar a feature of more 3f ul tents. I have the lanshan 2 (non pro, those don't feature swappable innners) with both inners.i wouldn't say that one really is a 2 person tent though. From memory, the width is less than 3 feet. Ample room for one person with gear though.

[@MstrRo1]

I actually like the fact that there are guyout attachments on the poles as it is the poles that can over-flex and break. If the sides of the fabric coming in are bothersome, you can put an a horizontal attachment (no stretch Spectum or Dyneema cordage) between the poles (ones that do not slide up or down the poles) and then a fabric attachment point on the bothersome, caving panels which attaches to the horizonal no stretch cordage. This cordage should be adjustable in terms of tension.

[@Troy57_]

Well done review as usual. The wind resistance aspect of the tent looks to me as easily addressable by the company. Looking forward to the full review as.I am looking for a 4 season tent to use while overlanding.

[@STB-jh7od]

Love the ease of setup. Can't wait to see the waterproof test.

[@C-Henry]

Seems like a good option for people with limited storage space, I can definitely see someone in a small home or apartment benefiting from this design.

[@truebrit312]

Thanks Luke looks great value for money

[@ZepHezR]

It's really cool that it's so versatile for the seasons and weather, looking forward to an epic test night

[@SnowyAspenHills]

Almost perfect, just needs some fly guy line attachment points, hope they listen to this review and make the changes.

[@felixfelucci6955]

Thanks for the review! 3ful sells separate inners (3s or 4s) for several of their tents (floating cloud, zhengtu, lanshan...) on taobao. Very convenient if the tent is to be used year round as you mentioned. Asta gear, another chinese brand, also has this option. Looking forward your rain/wind test of the taiji 2

[@SugarFreeTargets]

I've had a 3FUL tent before and it was awesome for the price. Upgraded to save weight but I wouldn't mind buying from 3FUL again (even if it's a Chinese knockoff brand).

[@dungeonmaster1971]

Strength and honor. 💪

[@bangdingow1414]

Luc is ripped. Ready for war brother. Welcome to the club.

[@auntdayskitchen6315]

The price is awesome and I absolutely love that it is a fly first I was like I have got to get this tent until you mention the wind issues I plan to do some camping in Montana and Wyoming where we’re in North Dakota, South Dakota, where the winds are notoriously ridiculous so if they can fix the wind issue by adding a couple of guidelines, I would be completely on board with buying both versions in green, of course. I wonder if maybe the winter version has the extra guidelines and then you can just buy the summer inner?

[@EstebanRivera-iy5pb]

I can see why this brand is becoming popular, the product looks and feels premium for $230 or less

[@jplamb77]

Hey Luke,,, Excellent pre-review,,,!!!! Most Definitely looking forward to “the Rain Test “,,, Joshua

[@zafiradaima]

That's a nice tent! I like the fly first pitch and the vents. This would be a huge tent for just me. I hope they make a 1 person sometime.

[@jeffereysampier6139]

So far for me best tent for your buck, 5000 what ever waterproofing is awsome in this price range

[@benjaminwalter48]

Proud owner of an REI Half Dome 2+ (Fort Knox @ an affordable price). I'm almost positive I saw you do a review on that tent a few years ago. My only question is, what would I sacrifice from the HD2+ in order to save roughly 50$ (full price HD2+ and Footprint) at most. Since REI has semi annual 50% off sale, you can grab the OG HD2+ or the newer UL HD2+ for under 200$.

[@kokadjooutdoors620]

Not sure if have done any reviews on feather stone tents. Have good luck with that company. Only issue have has was on wildland fire assignment chopper kept flying over our camp sight. The rings that held the tent poles started to fray around the metal rings. They sent me a new and improved inner body. Was happy about that as bought new off eBay from someone else and they still covered the tent repair. Consider them good company. Own two of their tents and been good experiences. Be cool see a review and what you think for product that is above budget tent but better quality then other budget products

[@michaelogden5093]

4-season and set up in the rain. That's very attractive to me.

[@9suuupersonic]

Well you've now put the cat amongst the pigeons ,I had already decided on my new tent until this review I'll wait for the waterproof review before finally deciding thanks very much for your work

[@forrestunderwood3174]

I like that closing theme.

[@wanderer418]

I am impressed waiting to see the rain test and 4th season liner

[@restonthewind]

Looks like I can't pitch the mesh inner without the fly. I use my 3-season tent this way most of the time. The fly is only for rain or cool weather. I don't want it on a warm, clear day, and I mostly camp on warm, clear days. I need a winter tent, and the winter version of the Taiji 2 would suffice, but it's $40 more than the Stella. I wish the Stella had a mesh door behind its fabric door. I have a popup tent with mesh doors behind fabric doors. Two mesh doors provide plenty of ventilation.

[@nicecatholicgrl]

Can't wait for you to try it in the winter!

[@Bolgrock]

nice video sir. I have tried similar tent and by a good experience I can say its not the best choice. When its high wind all dust and dirt fly inside tent through that mesh. I feel like developers should make mesh little bet above the ground, or on very top of the tent. Because waking up and see how your tent, gear and your body full of dust, dirt its not good. About full season option not gonna work either. Its way too cold in cold climate and without heater its nightmare.

[@ming549]

Love that they include a ground sheet. Simple but important things like that indicates very heads up thinking.