Why Hungary Helps Russia

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[@kashmirha]

The history of Orban and Hungary missies the fact that after his first super majority he started to systematically demolish independent institutions, bureaus, independent media, changed the constitution, radically changed the election laws, gerry mandering, and later attackning science, higher education, and art as fields of independent voice. So it was nut just that well, they won in the second and third time, they were lucky. Nope.

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[@electricaviationchannelvid7863]

So much BS here...the IMF loan was a form of usury...a predatory loan...so later the newly elected Hungarian gov. kicked out the IMF...Who paid you to spread this propaganda western Bs which serves only your private bankers-deep-state-masters??? Any western country has more corruption than Hungary - look at Canada where the PM was charged 5 times for fraud...or the EU MP members hiding millions of EUR in a closet...or Bidens UA fraud...

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[@SerbianNationaIist]

"record high inflation" hmmmmm, i don't know about *that* one... *1946 flashbacks*

[@JanosFeher]

32% in 1995 wasn't too far either.

[@nattila7713]

​@@JanosFehernoone gives a shit about 46 or 95. we live now and our money lost its value due to fidesz and corruption.

[@horompolierik3590]

Record compared to other EU countries at the same time (not historcially).

[@geberon]

to be fair we have the biggest inflation in HISTORY

​@@geberon Nope, we aren't. As others have said above we've had higher inflation in the early 90s, just after the fall of communism and even that was nowhere near the hyper inflation of 1946 when they started to print bank notes with insanely high denominations. We've used the "pengő" back then and due to the high inflation first they introduced the "mill pengő" (million pengő) when they'd had to issue 10 billion (10^9) valued notes (so instead they called it 10 000 mill pengő, having a value of 10^10) and then the bill pengő (for billion pengő, where billion is interpreted on the long scale, so 10^12, so that would have been 1 000 000 millpengo, but the smallest note was 10 000 billpengo). And then that went up to 100 000 000 (bill pengő), so 10^20 pengő. And then we switched to the Forint. According to Wikipedia the inflation was 10^16% *per month*.

[@ten_tego_teges]

As a Pole I really scratch my head when I follow Hungary's moves. On one hand we have a similar, confrontational attitude towards the EU, so we are thrown in the same basket by many observers. However, Poland has been consistently detaching itself from Russia and alerting European partners about the danger it poses. In face of Putin's aggression we have supported Ukraine and lobbied for sanctions. Hungary does the exact opposite and Hungarians are relatively pro-Russian compared to the rest of the region. It baffles me, since Hungary literally had an anti-communist uprising quashed by the Soviet Union in 1956. There are a lot of people today in Hungary that remember Soviet tanks driving into Budapest. How did they turn around to ambivalence towards Russian imperialism is beyond me.

[@StephanusTavilrond]

Dear Pole. Ukraine stole away Transcarpathia from Hungary and continues to oppress Hungarians living there. If you truly believe in Polish-Hungarian brotherhood, don't support Russia. Hell, Ukrainians commited a literal genocide against Poles in the early 1940s. Please stop supporting Ukraine, for the love of God.

[@sbcenk]

more than 50 years passed since 1956 and our experience during communism was not as horrible as that of Czehslovaks/Poles/Romanians. There is a kind of nostalgia for the financial security and ease of life the old system provided, which Orban exploits of course.

[@ivanmilanov8386]

@@Hermit-Crab Poland and Russia have a long history of rivalry that spans time long before the Soviet Union.

[@ottomusprime5028]

Yeah, bro; my father was a freedom fighter in Sopron during that war. He would not understand this world we live in now. Love you, Poles BTW

[@AB-zl4nh]

You don't need to declare your identity to make a statement.

[@alehaim]

As I am currently reading Why Nations Fail, Hungary's situation seems to resemble so much of an extractive system where the wealth is funneled to an elite. Considering the fact that an extractive system lacks the ability to sustain economic growth on its own, and that Fidesz is running out of options for where to draw wealth from without switching back to an inclusive economic system that would come at the expense of the businessmen and Fidesz which all benefit from the extractive model that htey have built, I see no way that Fidesz will be able to save Hungary's economy and that the Fidesz elite will rather bring down the country than give up their privileged position.

[@kevhynaleks2631]

The fidesz elite not bringed down the country, thats why voted back to the power, and will voting back in the future. There is no Fidesz elite, but money saving project from the goal of the state...Very huge misunderstanding and misinfirmation about everything you on the west know about Hungary. You have no free press, but only bias propaganda informations, especially from a such big enemy of the unquestionable ideology of neoliberalism, as Hungary. Hungary is 100% the enemy of your elites, that's why this constant lie, demonization and waying down campaigns against Hungary. This false video also part of this trend.

[@angeurbain6129]

So you should read a brand new book: ''Why Western europe is falling''...

[@kevhynaleks2631]

@@angeurbain6129 The whole west will falling, but US just later...

[@angeurbain6129]

And we have this guy over there making video about how bad is Orban for Hungary while down playing the whole context and the very bad effect the sanctions against Russia and this war in Ukraine haveon the western economies.@@kevhynaleks2631

[@Matti_us_Alpe]

Read the "Tragedy of great power politics" as well.

[@alfoldmapping5504]

As a Hungarian, I have to inform, that it is very unlikely, that Orban become allies with China while it is literally impossible, that Hungary and Russia has any positive relations currently. That's because Russia put Hungary to Russia's Unfriendly Countries List and if a country is on that list, that country is hostile towards Russia and to it's citizens - according to the Russian government. Also, most of Hungary's trade is dependant on trades with the EU or the USA, so if Orban would turn away from them, Hungary's economy would be immediately in crisis. Many people think, that Orban and Hungary is pro-Russian, but this is more complicated, than it seems. Orban is not pro-Russian, he has other goals. During his now 13-year-long rule, Orban eridicated democracy from Hungary, most of the media-outlets here are in his hands. He uses the media to brainwash millions of Hungarians and manipulating them with false statements, that the West is the enemy, while Orban steals all the public money and enrich himself and his oligarch friends. He does this for years. He doesn't care about Russia, he doesn't care about the West, he doesn't care about Hungary, he only cares about, how he can manipulate others inside and outside of Hungary and then take all the benefits and enrich himself and his oligarch friends. This is the real truth.

[@domoskovacs7169]

As a hungarian i agree.

[@Arokohon]

As a fellow hungarian I totally agree with your statement. Also, somebody wrote in a comment, that Hungary became a "pariah" in the EU, that other EU countries don't treat Hungary well and that is the reason looking elsewhere for friends. My only problem with this is that it is completly missing, why started the EU treating Hungary as a "black sheep". Because, atfer 10+ years they started to realize the authoritarian moves of the government. Orbán won election with a simple campaign, the slogan was: "Stop Brussels!" It is not a surprise to see, that the EU had enough from his bullsh1t rhetoric. All in all, if Hungary continues this way it will become the new Belarus/Russia. We are very close to that.

[@bandizulu]

Te se látod a fától az erdőt

[@TheBlackIdentety]

And this is why Hungary should be kicked from the EU and left completely isolated.

[@jessefisher1809]

@@TheBlackIdentety Yeah, but unless the EU reforms somehow, Poland will always block it. I worry this whole thing with Hungary and Poland will make Ukraine joining the EU that much harder. Which is a shame because if anyone's deserves EU membership its Ukraine. But the founding members might be hesitant to let in a new member when you never know when say 20 years down the road, they find a new leader that becomes a thorn in the side of everyone, just like Orban is.

[@martondee1284]

It is important to note that the Chinese battery factories being built in Hungary are not an example of foreign investment: they are being very heavily subsidized by the Fidesz government, who are looking at them as a strategic investment. Those factories represent another massive expenditure from the Hungarian government for very little gain. The battery factories are going to be worked in by foreigners, too, as Hungary does not have enough workers to fill them.

[@KisDre]

Same with the Belgrád-Budapest railway

[@oldschoolpk]

@@KisDre💯

[@Silver_Prussian]

Man if those were western battery factories you would be singing a song about how great they are.

[@martondee1284]

@@Silver_Prussian It doesn't matter who actually owns those factories. It's not the Hungarian government or the Hungarian people, which means they do not receive the profits of the factories; and the workers of the factories aren't Hungarian, which means they do not benefit from the jobs created by the factories. Simply put, the factories do not actually benefit Hungarians in any way, which is my actual problem with them. If any of the above two problems were solved, I would agree with the government in the creation of these factories.

[@Silver_Prussian]

@@martondee1284 you do realise there are a ton of busineses in other countries that do not have workers who are natives, the business isnt owned by the state but is private. The taxes taken from this factory would be enough also who says hungarians wont work there ? And even if it wasnt hungarians its important to look where the money the workers make go, if they spend it in hungary thats still a win.

[@doma1n346]

As a Hungarian I can tell that we are def not doing the right things, but also we had ties with Russia for far too long and giving that up now would make us stand alone. Hungary is such a beautiful county, if only politics wouldn't be a matter to look at.

[@tamastoth9749]

-Ön a kire szavazott? -A fideszre. _Miért? -...Hát nem arra kellett?

[@Interwurlitzer]

Jeeesuuuss...

[@ruZZiansGoHome]

jomondod ocsem! ha nem szopnank a muszkafergek faszat, akkor ki a faszom qrna minket seggbe?

[@mireiyu6623]

Its ironic in the old times Russian wanted hungary land aswell now we are helping them.

[@S300V]

​@@mireiyu6623 because? Russia is the largest country on Earth with the most mineral wealth! Why would they want a tiny country with none?!

[@davidbalica9900]

I also read that many industries in western Romania are now hiring Hungarians. Romania is growing very fast anyways, just overtook Portugal and Croatia at GDP purchasing power parity, per person. Couple this with Hungary's descent and you have many Hungarians who are now moving over there. Many Hungarians also come to Romania now to do their daily shopping, all sorts of facebook groups which see people organise themselves into daily trips to Transylvania to buy goods they simply can't find anymore / can't afford. Unbelievable turnaround from 20 years ago.

[@Alaryk111]

Soccording to IMF fo2023 they are still behind Portugal and Croatia but ahead of Slovakia.

[@jokuvaan5175]

It's also easy for Hungarians to go to Romania because of Romania's large ethnically Hungarian population in some areas.

[@DerDop]

@@eudaimonnwhat’s wrong with Bengali and Pakistani? They’re chill, and they don’t have the religious fervour we all hate. Nice people, really hard working

[@dtf.eternal5857]

@@DerDop Nothing wrong with it, the idea was, that it would be nice for Romanians to be able to come back at work in Romania, to reduce it's workforce deficit. As for integration, as long as they don't push their culture onto the existing culture, nobody really gives a flying fucj about what imaginary friend they bow down to.

[@georgewang9094]

The answer is simple. If the EU and/or the US throw in tens of billions of dollars to Hungary, I could assure you Hungary will ditch Russia faster than you and I could blink. Why the EU and US don't throw money, cause 1. Orban made a whole platform on anti-brussel. 2. EU and the US probably don't want to give Hungary money anyway.

[@HUNVilly]

1:33 If you are showing Hungary's automotive locations, you should have included the Suzuki plant in Esztergom. Also Győr has Audi, not Volswagen.

[@kevhynaleks2631]

This video is on this level, this is a false propaganda, not correct video.

[@rintarouokabe9386]

Audi is owned by the Wolkswagen group so it's not a 100% wrong

[@kevhynaleks2631]

@@rintarouokabe9386 And the 100 other sliding and lie?

[@JanosFeher]

@@rintarouokabe9386 Porsche SE owns 53% of the Volkswagen Group, yet we don't say to Volkswagen factories that it's Porsche, do we?

[@mentorhdtv]

​@@JanosFeher but Porsches arent made in Volkswagen factories except the Cayenne, whereas plenty of Audi models are being manufactured in Volkswagen factories. So in theory saying its Volkswagen on an Audi factory is more acceptable than saying the same on a Porsche factory.

[@Paris13004]

I have been to Hungary very often. On my last trip last year l was shocked by the high prices of everything. Hungary has never been a rich country but now poverty is everywhere with western european prices that post communist salaries can not match. Homelessness has skykyrocketed. Going to the Czech Republic after some days in Hungary helps understand the situation. Just cross the border and you will be amazed by the gap. One country is moving forward, the other is going backward to the post communist era.

[@Akitlosz]

It does not help to achieve a higher standard of living if European countries donate their money to Ukraine. Especially not on credit. The European Union owes Hungary many billions of euros.

[@TheTome23]

​Hungary got dozen of billions euros in the past 12 years, and most of it has been stolen or spend the most corrupted way, sadly....​@@Akitlosz

[@FrankyS74]

@@TheTome23 Perhaps you watching too much mainstream news.. The corruption is the same everywhere in the EU, the only difference is that we can or cannot inform about it!

[@zackhruska]

The Czech Republic doesn’t border Hungary.

[@Akitlosz]

@@TheTome23 Ever since states existed, exist, and will exist, there has been, is, and will be corruption. Only the extent of corruption is questionable.

[@lucakarsai214]

As a hungarian, its really intereeting, how everyone see the problems, expect us...

[@jonnypopcorn702]

Sajnos rengeteg agyhalott van az országban akik istenként tisztelik Orbánt.

[@tamassallay32]

Well... We see it too, just the brainwashed ones don't...

[@AllySzat]

Magic word: propaganda.

[@kanyotamas]

De miért nem magyarul írsz ha már az angol nem megy?

[@zoltanhuk]

Yep, there are some typos. However the language of the video is English, the author is also not Hungarian so the discussion flows in English. If you have a problem with translating, educate yourself, it’s always a smart thing to do. Használj fordítót, vagy tanulj nyelvet, tanulni mindig hasznos.

[@beszmi]

At 7:00 that's not the railway that's being rebuilt. the one in the video is szeged-budapest. The one that is actually being rebuilt is kelebia-budapest

[@aleccullen2696]

Nobody's perfect.

[@gaborszabo3110]

I'm a Hungarian economist living in Hungary, so let me add some things, because this video is mostly right, but very superficial. As for the 'cronies', orban follows the russian model, there are no 'businessmen close to orban' - the 'businessmen' are LITERALLY 'employed' by orban in a shadow employment way, they are not 'businessmen' by any means, only sock puppets, p.e. the two of them you can see in the video, one was lajos simicska, kicked out in 2015, all his money taken, the other is lorinc meszaros, who is (and I'm not kidding!!!) by now the wealthiest person in Hungary, a plumber by profession, who really seems to be illiterate as I say, that man can hardly articulate a proper sentence out of his mouth, so dumb everybody laughs at him all the time, would be surprising if he was able to even sign his name on a contract or anything like that. The son in law of orban, istvan tiborcz is not mentioned in the video, a 30-some guy, now one of the richest in Hungary, and one of the most obvious sock puppets... The automotive sector is the biggest of the manufacturing mainly composed of German companies, that's true, but that's not the whole thing. There are dozens of factories in Hungary owned by German/American/Canadian companies, altogether they make up about 80% of Hungary's exports!!!, of course with a high import proportion as we mainly do the assembly part of the job, nothing more. A small part of the Hungarian economy that is not agriculture but can export its goods being competitve on the international market is composed of mainly tourism, the pharma and the IT sector, maybe 15% of exports, tourism is the main factor here and the rest 5% is compiled by agricultural products, wine etc. As you see, nothing like 'Hungarian economy' actually exists, the 4,5 million workforce can be roughly divided this way: 0,5 million works abroad in the EU and UK; 1,5 million people work for the state or companies closely affiliated with the state (public transport is organized through 'companies', but of course the workers there are basicly public sector employees); 0,5 million people work for the German/American/Canadian owned manufacturing companies who create the 'exports' mentioned above; 1,5 million people work in the domestic service industry and tourism, like retail trade, banks, phone/internet companies, media, catering, all kinds of workmen (mechanicians, plumbers, bricklayers, hairdressers ), lawyers, accountants etc. - this part is very unproductive and uncompetitive, in this sector also the activities that can be centralized are mostly owned by foreign companies like retail (Lidl, Aldi, Tesco), banks (Erste, KBC, Raiffeisen etc.) and about 0,5 million work in the agriculture and food processing, wine making etc., their products are mainly consumed on the domestic market, some exported. The 'cronies' (sock puppets) of orban are not involved in any competitive business except tourism, owning hotels, bars and restaurants and agriculture, but they mainly did their dirty job in the contruction industry as long as there were EU funds - finally stopped in 2021 thank god... And the money they make there is used partly to create such a widespread and very disgusting propaganda that russia can only envy. Hungarian is in an economic crisis, but DO NOT be deluded: the 2,5-3 million voters of orban don't care about the economy at all. These are mainly poor people who are also very uneducated, mainly the 2,5 million pensioners vote for him, because he 'protects the country from the migrants' - and that's enough, these people don't understand economy at all, barely they know the difference between million and billion...

[@mistercuriousmind]

This is a great additional detail to the video. But I like to add, that it is not just poor and uneducated who vote for Fidesz. Let me give you some more info to this very good comment! I am coming from a traditionally Fidesz family. My parents are not stupid, they have descent professions and I can call my family a good middle class family. I was raised in the spirit of Fidesz support and I was supporting them. Until I started to learn about the complexities of the world and its very colorful societies and economies, now we have vehement and almost futile fights about the happenings in Hungary. They are able to think about complex things, they have the capacity of comprehending the impending doom. Yet! They choose to not to think about it. And it is a common problem and it is understandable. Probably it sounds very irrational, but it is related in a weird way to the half a century soviet occupation. I can see on my parents, that they are just happy, that finally they can live well off and they built up the subconcious defense mechanism so that they can protect this utopia. This defense prevents them to think about the reasons why they live well off until it will be too late. This is no unique epidemic and I believe most ex-soviet countries and especially Russia suffers in this. And it is like ADHD, it is extremely difficult to coexist with it, and sometimes even more difficult to change it. I have no cure for this, but I keep trying to push them into a comfortable conversational environment and hope one day, from that comfort they look out and start to see what I see. And I also hope that actually newer generations have less and less of this problem as the inheritance of the USSR is dying out slowly with its victim generation. I hope this small snippet will give a nice addition to the economic complexities.

[@gaborszabo3110]

@@mistercuriousmind You should not have vehement and almost futile fights about the happenings in Hungary, what is happening in Hungary is totally understandable. The fidesz is the main symptom, not the problem. Having a system of such a small country like Hungary with only 1 body that is elected directly by the voters will lead to a system like that. If you can elect only 1 body like the Parliament in Hungary, there will be no checks and balances. The first thing to do sometime in the future is to create a system where at least 3 actors are elected directly by the people (lower house, upper house, president) and these will be the checks and balances for each other. We don't know when anything like this will happen, maybe after a civil war like in many countries... We will see...

[@xSkyWeix]

​@@gaborszabo3110As if that's work xD Poland has 3 bodies and all of them for the past 8 years been in the hands of one party. And in essence one person.

[@xSkyWeix]

​@@mistercuriousmindYou seem like a good son. Sadly your efforts are futile. There is this bias called belief perseverance. It boils down to the fact that people don't change their entrenched beliefs. And for some truths to succeed, you need to wait for the previous generation to die off.

[@mistercuriousmind]

@@xSkyWeix I know. But as all people were created different so is their belief preserverance. So, I keep trying, hoping my parents can prevail. :)

[@schurlbirkenbach1995]

Hungarians never forget, that the treaty of Trianon was imposed by the western powers and not by Russia. The Polish experience has been inverse.

[@S41GON]

To be fair, the economic modell of the whole region has run its course, being an assembly line for German manufacturers can only get you so far. And that far is the middle income trap. This applies to all the former Soviet bloc countries, more or less. Another big problem is, if the engine of the EU, Germany dies, what will be left? Because the German and European economic model was based on cheap Russian energy. Now that seems to be not an option anymore for most European countries where globalist and ideologically posessed politicians are in power, Orbán is clearly pragmatic and wants Russian energy because it's cheaper than American LNG and also because Hungary has no other option really. This angers Brussels of course and Hungary has to pay the prize for its separate policy towards Russia as Brussels is punishing Hungary by withholding EU funds citing corruption issues, but it's obvious that these things are connected, none of these disputes started yesterday, they date back to Hungary's separate migration policy. Fundamentally it is a sovereignist-globalist clash and the same dinamics can be seen now in many other EU countries play out, Sweden, Netherlands, France, even Germany, everywhere sovereignist parties are winning or growing their influence. Also there is corruption in the EU elsewhere, but it never really gets exposed the way Hungarian corruption seems to be always in a spotlight; maybe because those other countries toe Brussel's line carefully and don't rock the boat as much as Hungary does, not to mention there is petty corruption in Eastern Europe, but the industrial grade corruption that exists in Western Europe is rarely reflecting a bad light on the countries where it happens and is usually quickly swept under the rug (Dieselgate, Libor scandal or Deutsche Bank's various scandals). Has anybody ever heard Germany being called a corrupt country because Volkswagen cheated on emission tests or Deutsche Bank laundering Russian money and evading sanctions? Yeah, neither have I. The EU itself seems to be prone to corruption, Qatari bribe money found way into some European Parlament members' pockets and then there's the president of the EU Comission, Ursula von der Leyen's shady backdoor sms dealings with Pfizer we still know basically nothing about. I also have a hard time believing Hungary has a worse reputation when it comes to corruption than, say, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romania or Ukraine for that matter that is being shoveled billions nevertheless by the EU.

[@bjornborg4849]

Absolutely. In fact, Ukraine has been often been named the most corrupt country in Europe, but this is ofc not mentioned when it comes to discussing weapons deliveries for Ukraine... That are actually partly bought up by international arms dealer and sold to Africa and the middle east.

[@danielbxi4090]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@urbangorilla33]

You apparently don't live in Hungary or follow it day-to-day. Otherwise you would not be rationalizing its corruption issues. Trust me, if you want to see industrial grade corruption, Hungary is the place to see it.

[@danielbxi4090]

@@urbangorilla33 you can find same damm think everywhere. Not only in Hungary.☝️

[@MrFlugi]

@@danielbxi4090 false. What you can se everywhere in the EU is the level of Hungarian corruption of the 90s, early 2000s, where the method is that business gives money to politicians to pave the way for some legislations for them. What happens now is a state organized money pump, the control is not on the business side, the control is on the state side which creates its own businesses. Lőrincz Mészáros could not be a middle manager with his own merit, but he is the owner now the biggest company holding in Hungary. ALL money what is now in Mészáros businesses, Tiborcz businesses, 4IG businesses, etc, is a state controlled payment of friends of people in power, and that is just the most visible part. Most of those companies are maintained by the state not only by paying their bills but giving help by making the competitions life harder. These companies would not survive in plain capitalism baseline competition, they NEED the helping hand of the state, typically with constant state subsidies. The main issue with the state controlled corruption is that when there is a surplus of money, the people in power will take it as it would be a profit in a company. A country is not exactly the same as a company, democracies should not have an owner who is entitled to put profit in his pocket if he wants, that is a feature of dictatorships.. So while corruption in itself is everywhere, the level of that was in the millions of HUF before Fidesz and billions of HUF since that, because the businesses were never could get that much corrupting politicians for legislations. You need a state level organized money pump to achieve this level of corruption. It is like saying that Hitler was just another serial killer, serial killers are everywhere, nothing to see here..

[@cnccarving]

let me pointing out, that the so called help from west wasnt helping the industry but creating cheap shops for the western companies germans basically built shops on hungary and taking all the profits could arise from those plants, or shops hungary were much better position using those plants making parts or asesembling freely to any other countries, not locked into german cars here in usa german cars has many competitors and honestly german cars arent better but same level just be realistic

[@cnccarving]

with china or russia, actually hungary could strike a lot better deal than germans less debt, more output and more profit germans, french UK and usa trades can be seen in africa how it works like france taking uranium for 80 cent and selling for 200 dollars thats what western help means, enslaving the one their propahganda says """helping"""

[@mgoogyi]

The so called help from the west is the money from EU. The majority of that money is distributed in NER and does not help the industry, just makes certain people wealthy.

[@mireliris4799]

tipical hungarian , "the west opened a factory and gave me a job instead of giving me the factory so I can compete with them, clearly slavery " .But I agree all western companies need to stop trading with Hungary and close all factories in Hungary . Wouldnt want to offend the Hungarians with investment and jobs 🤣🤣🤣. And people say we dont get along, we want the same thing, to remove western companies and investment from Hungary. The whole Eu should work toghether to get that done .

[@cnccarving]

@@mireliris4799 thats a very wrong view factory built out of loan the question why hungary not building of same loan their own factory theres no need """free""" factory what is wrong on hungary, that EU gave loan to buy example trams, while same amount of money could restart the production on hungary you seeing it very wrong way

[@cnccarving]

you need to looking back that basically hungary made their own stuff

[@Noobsaucer]

Wow. As a Hungarian, I've never seen any foreign content creator or media org covering the situation in Hungary in such an unbiased and comprehensive way. Top notch content, my friend!

[@norbert0320]

Correct analysis, thanks. I'm hungarian but at home we cannot see same😢

[@antisnowflake8618]

ez nyílván irónia

[@peterbalogh8138]

You may hate Orban as much as you like -but any person looking at the alternative must be barking mad to elect the likes of Gyurcsany, Marki-Zay or the Momentum idiots, confusing nuclear plants with solar panels etc.

[@prodigiii712]

He wasn't unbiased at all. His whole analysis is wrong. He should also do a video on why there is recession in Germany and why German economy is contracting while Russian economy is growing. Also inflation in Germany is much higher than Russia.

[@tihlsteinig2465]

Unbiased???

[@vidan3018]

I do not know much about you but being from Hungary I am impressed with the summary. There is a little background originating from the 90s and it explains a bit more but by and large, spot on.

[@ghullaire5940]

I'm Hungarian. I work mostly in Denmark, but also in Hungary. Based on this video, you did not get any real information. At least 2/3 of Hungarians laugh at this. This man obtained his information from dwarf parties that lost political elections. Completely fake, fake video. I read a lot of nonsense in the comments. For example, that Hungarians work en masse in Romania. This is a primitive lie, slip. In Romania, there is a more than 1,5 million Hungarian population, because Transylvania was Hungarian territory for 1000 years. People of Hungarian nationality. They work there because their ancestors have lived there for 1000 years. A Hungarian citizen not go to work in Romania. Hungarians do not go to work in a poor country like Romania. This is huge, capital bullshit, whichever commenter wrote it. There have been so many lies and misleading nonsense that it is impossible to respond to them all. But this video is very far from reality.

[@nattila7713]

​@@ghullaire5940fyi hungary oficially poorer than romania now. you ate orbans bullshit as it seems :(

[@zoltanhuk]

⁠@@ghullaire5940 If you are happy with the system why do you work in Denmark? I live in the UK because I don't like to live in Hungary anymore because it feels like a soft version of russia or Orwell's 1984. I think this is typical behaviour if someone's brain is washed with orange juice (orange is the colour of the propaganda party).

[@manwiththeredface7821]

As a Hungarian I see no light at the end of the tunnel. We're dependent on NATO arms, Russian oil and gas, and now Chinese money as well. Eventually something's got to give and when that happens we will be in a state of disarray. Meanwhile the people eat up the propaganda about us "going our own way". There's no going our own way since 1956, that's the sad truth. We went our own way for a few days and we were crushed and humiliated violently for it.

[@zsoltbr]

A change of Union will help (European Union->Soviet U.) First "Peace" must come soon for that (read: Russia have to win.)

[@Silver_Prussian]

When the oil and gas they offer is the cheapest in the entire continent you dont have much of a choice but its good that you made a deal with rosatom for a new NPP, they not only provide the infrastructure but also offer convenient and generous payment plans for the customers. No, I am not sponsored by them

[@ekesandras1481]

compared to the huge amount of EU funds flowing into Hungary each year, Chinese money is very insignificant and limited to some doubtful vanity projects.

[@kevhynaleks2631]

​@@ekesandras1481The EU funds is a very insignificant amount of money compare to the size of the economy. (1%}. The only why still we cannot drop the whole corruppt bias EU-sht, is that tax-free inner market, what use all of our companies...

[@ekesandras1481]

@@kevhynaleks2631 1% GDP-growth as a gift each year is not insignificant.

[@robertkaroly3698]

When I started working in an Austrian-owned factory after EU accession, I immediately had to meet higher expectations for a third as much pay as the Austrian staff, while strategic sectors of Hungarian agriculture were privatised to Western companies who then systematically dismantled them. But at that time I could meet young Germans at Hungarian music festivals, going on world tours on social welfare if I could afford to go on the handouts I earned from the Western multinationals. I remember when I had to start work at midnight on the 20th of August, the day of the foundation of the Hungarian state, or when in December, due to an influenza epidemic, many of my colleagues worked with fever and sickness, so as not to lose the insignificant bonus that was tied to sick leave. The only other time I had anything to do with EU subsidies was once, when I took a training course with the support of the Hungarian employment centre to increase the income of an Austrian training company, so that I could get a job with a Western multinational. These are the things that make most Hungarians not have to think too much about who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline.

[@mireliris4799]

then leave the EU , throu out western companies and you can have your own little North Korea, because that's the poitical philosophy your describing. Foreigners are bad , giving you a job is bad , investing in hungary is bad , then be north korea and stop crying that anyone that invests in your country is opressing you. If it helps I agree all foreign companies need to leave Hungary , all exports to hungary need to stop , and let's see what happens.

[@mgoogyi]

@@mireliris4799 I hope we don't quit the EU, it would be game over for us... Around 48% of Hungarians (the stupid half) supports this idiot government and they get 2/3 of the power at every single election. Without the EU and it's money we would be on a downward slope. We are also not trying too hard to get off Russian energy...

[@robertkaroly3698]

@@mireliris4799 I'm just describing what I've experienced in my life, that we are treated as inferior people, taken advantage of to make us more vulnerable. And now I should be grateful to the west because if they don't invest their unlimited printing money in our country then we won't have anything to eat in an agrarian country? Because the pipelines of the sugar factories were also poured with liquid concrete after they got it for pennies. Why was such a thing necessary? They talk about great friendship, while in the background they make threats because they only want cheap slaves. I wonder what kind of conversations were going on while a B52 nato heavy bomber was circling for hours over Kaposvár? Why nato and why the EU? So that they can keep their competitive advantage by force if necessary, so that they don't have to cooperate fairly. Maybe it is better to be a slave than to die in a war, we saw this in 1971 when Nixon broke the bretton woods agreement without consequences. If this great alliance is so noble, why are certain countries excluded from it? The whole financial system is based on a scam to keep the world vulnerable and in perpetual competition as if it could not function otherwise. The war is just an added bonus. I don't believe that ordinary people want more than fair cooperation in either the West or the East. Because real peace can only come from fairness never from winning the race. But then bitcoin will take it all away

[@feltuzok]

​@@mireliris4799people are afraid of how powerful Hungary could become so they do anything in their power to weaken us. Just losing 2/3 of our land after Trianon wasn't enough, later they had to "invest" in to the Hungarian agriculture.

[@wuestenfuchsxy]

@@feltuzok afraid of what? what would you do?

[@newsPrahova]

It is not only Hungary that is facing one or more crises. It is a global situation, caused by the coronavirus pandemic, with so many bans, by the war in Ukraine, by the price crisis on the energy market, etc. Romania is not doing better either. In general, the economies of Eastern Europe are fragile and rely on foreign capital and investments provided by the European Union. If the Community market falls, the exports of these countries also fall. Unlike Hungary, Romania has diversified its production of goods and services more, but corruption and inefficiency of government policies are serious obstacles to development. Let's not forget that even in developed countries, capitalism was built over decades. Fortunately, there is also hope for the countries of Eastern Europe, because their economies still have the opportunity to grow, they have a relatively well-trained workforce, and people's mindsets are more flexible and open to new things. As for the Orban Government, it's only temporary, let's not forget...

[@nnkk7742]

If Ukraine shows anything it's that the west has been too soft towards authoritarians. We need to actively and severely crack down on countries working against common prosperity.

[@vayate1234]

True.

[@jt-ttt]

soft or fear? 5000 Russia atom eggs😂

[@Silver_Prussian]

People like you are the ones who are against prosperity. You interventionist mindset is like a disgusting parasite that need to be removed.

[@hondacbrification]

Western Ukrain Nazionalist have been exterminating people that oppose they narrative for many years now.Claim that is the way to go against people that oppose "mainstream" led by Soros like figures whom openly bragged about orchestrating Maidan in order to create a conflict against Russia is something that can easily backfire.

[@DiederikCA]

Yeah except we cant do anything because Poland backs them, and the EU is actually operated according to judicial procedures

[@TL735]

The grandmother always looked away when her grandson stole from her purse, because the boy always brought her some flowers. Now the grandmother does not allow him to steal and is very disappointed that her grandson became a thief...

[@aleccullen2696]

She got stuck with a piss-head grandson. Shit happens.

[@laszloandras963]

The Hungary is about to collapse narrative is there since Orbán took office. Now we are at 13 years and counting and Hungary hasn't collapsed. In fact, it was under the socialist-liberal government that it did collapse and needed international bailout by the EU and the IMF. It was Orbán's government that repayed the loan and is now managing a steady economy despite EU funds being frozen. - The financial vulnerability of Hungary has decreased massively thanks to the fact that foreign debt was in large part exchanged for domestic debt. - There is no political crisis in Hungary. The support of the ruling parties is stable and the supermajority means that the government can quickly change laws in order to respond to a crisis. - The only real problem Hungary faces is foreign and not related to government policy. The German economy is going into recession, EU leaders are unable/unwilling to defend the interests of European industry and manufacturing. This affects the mainly European export markets of the Hungarian car industry. The logic of the rule of law disputes and EU financing is the opposite of what you claim. The liberal elites in Brussels and Western capitals don't like the conservative government of Hungary so they wanted to weaken Orbán's government by withholding EU funds. The rule of law concerns were politically motivated and whenever Hungary amended laws to meet EU demands, the European Commission always invented new concerns. What they call "rule of law concern" is in fact Hungary closing the Hungarian/Schengen borders to illegal immigrants, banning sexual content and gender ideology from schools and its opposition to sending weapons to Ukraine. And if you check referenda results and polling data you will find that Hungarians overwhelmingly support these policies.

[@gezaeckrich6773]

Na végre van valaki aki eléggé tisztán látja a dolgokat. 👍👍👍 Nem mondom van még sokminden tennivaló ,Magyarországon de azt hiszem a fejlődés nemcsak Orbántól függ, eléggé belerúgdosnak más hatalmasabba a kis országba .!! 😉😉😉👍👍👍👍👍

[@albertbokor6643]

Ok, a németek hülyeségeitől pufferelődni egy kivánatos dolog, de amilyen retorikával operálnak az baszottul idegesitő tud lenni. A "Buzi libzsik!!" kulcsfontoságu stratégiai erőforrás a Nemzeti Gumicsontgyár ZRT számára, ez van. És ha a "hazai tőtkésités"-be még egy kis efortot tennének hogy ne mindent szétlopásnak érződjön, az prima lenne.

[@wile123456]

"hmm let's trade with the country that we have a bunch of sanctions against in the EU market" Orban really is a smooth brained individual.

[@HShango]

While exporting is his political propaganda too 🤨

[@SimplyVanis]

Hungary will pay a high price for it, no doubt. Karma if you will, but it always happens with countries that vote in Populist leaders

[@Sebastian-fk3gs]

When your head is full of irredentism

[@bonito34]

A russian dance bear

[@jokuvaan5175]

He is authoritarian wanting to enrich himself and his inner circle. He wants get closer to Russia because EU is more strict to corruption like his while in Russia's eyes it's just a bonus along with gaining geopolitical power in Europe

[@regenytarmovies]

Hungary helps itself. Oil, gas, and nuclear fuel come to them from the Russians, it is not possible otherwise. There are geographical and physical reasons for this. Hungary ensures that the Czechs, Slovaks and others continue to receive vitally important Russian gas. The USA cannot trigger this, nor does it intend to. The USA has bought a huge part of Ukrainian farmland, so it will not give it up. These are the facts.

[@kobanagy]

Moreover, there are bigger, imperialist intentions behind this. but all it takes for the crowd is to brandish some silly "explanations" such as "there is a mentally ill leader who wants to occupy us all!" or "by giving them weapons, we are only helping them fight for the country" and other demagogy. Many people say "since Orbán continues to maintain the gas business with Russia, Putin has enough money to buy/produce weapons, so Orbán is responsible for the deaths of many Ukrainians". But no one is talking about dozens of countries that also conduct oil/nuclear fuel/etc. business with Russia, many of which are much bigger than Hungary, for example the USA... But while a country of 10 million people is not a strong enough power and weak (politically controlled) media presence to compete with the richest country on the planet, this "truth" will not be heard or understood. Also these misinformed people, who swallows all that western propaganda says, are just droids, and proves that a powerful media machinery can "teach you" how and why to hate others (who you know nothing about). Probably the same thing happens in Russia as well, but since we have no access to their local news media, we have "our truth" and they have theirs. Live long the freedom of speech, and media freedom! Thank you EU! We're living in a democracy! A special kind of democracy, where some leaders judge what is good for us, and everything else is forbidden. Reminds me something... something "red".

[@MrFlugi]

none of that is fact. It is really dumb to think that it is not possible to get oil or nuclear fuel from other sources, and every state leader is a moron who do not take precaution of having redundant sources of key materials.

[@regenytarmovies]

yes but it's 10x expensive. You will pay this for us? The USA still buys Russian nuclear fuel to this day. Check it@@MrFlugi

[@MrFlugi]

@@regenytarmovies Russian prices grew 5X, reaching the LNG prices. French companies sell nuclear fuel. Check it.

[@regenytarmovies]

Not true. I pay the same for gas as last year. They have grown, but not as much as you. We take it with a long-term contract. If this were not the case, LNG gas would have to be transported here by trucks from Antwerp, which would be a horror, just like crude oil. Hungary has no coastline, and there are no terminals built for this capacity in nearby countries. Do you think we are subordinate to the Russians for fun? They were here for forty years, they kept us occupied, but even then we were not interesting to the West. Marshall aid did not come here, there was poverty here, which was offset a little by the cheapness of Russian energy. If the USA said it would provide what is lost from the termination of Russian exports, we would immediately accept it. Do you think we are stupid? @@MrFlugi

[@user-jc2wc9nu3e]

匈牙利🇭🇺不是匈奴人的后代吗？？？ 中国和匈奴几千年前就是老朋友👍

[@domi_ka9153]

对，匈奴人是我们的的后代。我希望我们还好朋友❤

[@barnaferencszolnoki9368]

Hungarians going to Croatia for groceries is may be true... even though I live near the southern border and don't know of anyone who does this. I also don't experience any signs of this so called pending economic collapse. But I may be ignorant.

[@rapramix]

Yeah, but it needs Germany , Austria and the rest of Europe even more.

[@prodigiii712]

wrong analysis, who funds you? I don't think you understand economics. Hungarian economy isn't doing well because of EU sanctions on Russian energy exports. If the sanctions were lifted problems would be solved immediately. And BTW Germany is in a recession while Hungarian economy is still experiencing growth.

[@thomasmerlin4990]

no, Hungarian economic values are anomalous, inflation in Hungary is the highest in Europe, about three times higher than in other European Union countries.

[@szokrika]

There are two types of politics. Uneducated politicians can only follow trends, educated ones can develop political strategies… the biggest problem of our times is that our leaders are uneducated and the job is over their heads… if you really want to see how they think, listen to what they say in long format not in a newsflash. Provided you have the brains for politics… Also the Hungarian nation is one of the oldest one in EU, so let them people live the way they want. There are traditions, culture and history to stand on. Not every country has to go woke… trends should never be replacing true and tested values!

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

I dunno man Italy has existed since before Jesus was born

[@szokrika]

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Rome did. Italy was founded in 1861.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

@@szokrika and where was it founded, by what people?

[@JeanClaudeNoel]

One word: Corruption! This is feed by Hungary internal corruption. This is going to eat away at the country. -- BTW, I do buy a sparkling white wine from Hungary called "Hungarian". I buy it because it is affordable and of its lower sugar content compare to the competition. 😎

[@zsoltbr]

Sure, sugar content is lower. The sugar got stolen from your wine. 😂

[@madmax6827]

@@zsoltbr No, it comes from grapes with a lower sugar content.

[@kevhynaleks2631]

There is no corruption in Hungary, mean not bigger than in France or any other countries. There is conservative, right wing goverment - this is why the leftie media overhyping false facts through the propaganda...

[@Csabika1988]

The original video is in English so I will write in english,. Let's talk about it from a little bit different viewpoint.I am a hungarian, born and grew up here. Then I moved to live in London for 10 years. In the beginning i thought i might settle there forever. Now, I'm back in Hungary, Budapest and I plan to stay forever. I see many similarities between so called advanced nations and Hungary, in fact I felt almost as if i didn't even move back, people speaking all kinds of languages on the streets and everywhere, plenty of young and hard working people in the cities and a somewhat older rural community in what increasingly start to look like ghost towns. Also, rising unaffordable housing prices, not enough high quality, good paying jobs, declining demographics, steady decline in living standards, general apathy and dissatisfaction, growing mental problems, healthcare on the edge of collapse in many cases, fearmongering by politicians, painting foreigners as enemies and pushing the blame onto outside factors for every unpopular decision that is made. Now onto the point. I am no expert but in my opinion this is what happens when economics get out of hand and gets way too much importance and we start to focus on companies and business as if the only path to reach a happy and content life was through making (infinitely) more money. It is true that money won't always make you happy, but if you don't have it for the things you need, it's hell of a pain in the ass. So i guess we are becoming so efficient in focusing on the hyperprofitability of everything that we lost sight of what we, as a people actually need and have no purpose as a collective other then maximising output in euros(or pounds and forints :D). You can bet it worked well in Hungary to change from planned economy(being part of the Eastern Socialist Bloc) to western style market economy starting from 1991 - in the year when i was born - becuase since then we came out of poverty and filled are shelves with many great products and since then Hungary has reached 9th most complex economy in the world. Looking at this then we can obviously see that solely concentrating on economic and political unions are not going to live long because it makes cooperation transactional and rely on interests. This is as much a flaw of the EU with its western ideas, as it was with the old soviet ideas. We should rather focus on finding friendships and partners along cultural lines. On this topic I have one observation that I thing has made me wiser over the years. No matter how hard we try, our transgenerational traumas and history, food and music is what makes up a big part of our identities. Becuase of the jobs i was working in London i was interacting with dozens, or hundreds of people daily. Made friends with many interesting poeple with widely different backgrounds, but one thing stayed constant. the more to the east one came from, the easier it was to became close frends, and the more west the higher the ratio of people who even tho they asked me where I was from and what i was like, the less genuinely disinterested they were. An example that I heard thousands of time now; "heey! where are you from? - Hey! I'm from a small town in Hungary. - Aww! Hungary, goulash!" and the conversation was virtually over there, not because I was not open for more, but because they just didnt give a damn. On the other side the same conversation started went so far with polish, portugese, spanish, indian, sri lankan, cape verden, irish, scotish, south african. Of course there were a few exceptions, and i became really good friends with people born and raised in Edinburgh, Cork, an London but I am the saddest to say that it does not matter that I learned english in school for 12 years before I moved to the UK, and I only kept improving during my time in the UK, was summoned for and served my jury duty, and I went to school there to educate myself further, I was never really accepted or felt particularly welcome there. So in the end, after studying for my citizenship exams, and already acquiring a residence card many years earlier, which was later made invalid after brexit, having to apply again for settled status which i got, I decided i didn't really want to become a British citizen. What am i trying to say with all of this? Well, how many times did i mention any of the other EU countries in this long story of mine? You can count it on one hand, and that is the real reason why Hungary and Orban "helps" Russia, or rather just takes the best deals of the month from a business/political standpoint. There is no real unity in the Union, except for cold hard economic projects...so don't be surprised when there is no unity in ideological questions with such a gaping abyss of common culture, where i bet that 90% of the europeans if asked, couldn't give a unified answer to what it means to be a european citizen.

[@holofernesz]

Well said.

[@hansleijonmarck9768]

Long post of yours. I am from Sweden. Please read me out even if you dissagree:))) What do you mean with transgenerational traumas? Sweden enjoyed peace for over 200 years so I can not relate. What are Hungarys legitimate reasons in holding up Swedens NATO accession for so long? I have had several Hungarian collegues over the years and all were good. Recognized they were either very tall or very short, not inbetween. Is this because of different heritage of modern day Hungarian people (Magyar-asiatic-short Germanic-Celtic-long)? As landlord I had a Hungarian family (all Swedish speaking) renting my flat. Very odd for me the husbands brother was also living there too. I have never heard anything like that with a Swedish family. Is this common in Hungary? My former wife was Ukrainian. I have 4 grown-up children from her living in Sweden so of course I am extra supportive of Ukraine. Both her parents came to me in Sweden to help taking care of the children. This lasted for several years. Recognize bonding between grandparents and grandchildren are good. Today Swedish grandparents only come to visit grandchildren and not much more whichn is a pity. Of course in Ukraine today and 100 years ago in Sweden too it was a multigenerational family that was lost somehow.

[@Csabika1988]

Hello @@hansleijonmarck9768, thank you for taking the time to read and answer! First, what i don't understand either is why the hungarian politicians are blocking the NATO accession for Sweden because in my personal opinion there is no reason for that. It can only be a good thing to have more friends and allies. Perhaps somebody in the hungarian parliement was a Julian Assange fan and this is a petty revenge. Regarding why we are either short or tall, with no inbetween... I think you were just meeting only a small sample. In fact this in itself is a very complicated topic, as you could expect with anything that is over a 1000 years old. We are a very very mixed bunch today, over the history - during many hundreds of years- there were many times the "original people" who came from asia to the carpathian basin and founded the country, accepted or joined with other people. Just a few examples; Besenyők (turkish background), Szászok (Saxons, germanic), Kun and Jász people (regions even hold there names today Kunság and Jászság), Romanians. Then during the long, about 150 years of turkish occupation, surprisingly we recieved not turkish, but Greek, Jewish, and south slavic (serb and bosnyák) people. After that about 80 years of governmental policy of welcoming more people, Swabians and others. AND slovakians. Hungary, later Austro-Hungarian Monarchy was pretty much a big melting pot for a long time. This was the zeitgeist of those years, a lot happened back then in Europe. That is a very long list as you can see and I'm sure I left out some. This has undoubtdetly helped form the culture and traditions aswell and generally how the people were thinking about things. I guess that's why we have this attitude that we have to have an opinion about everything, and most of the times we can't agree because our ancestors were also involved in a lot regarding politics and they were a mixed bunch. There is a going joke, "We can agree in that we can not agree" :D Probably this is also why we are so adamant (or more like stubborn) about freedom and sovereignty too and don't really like taking the orders or following the rules when they start to be even just a tiny bit autocratic (guess Orbán inherited that defiance to stand by his belief too, even if it's not the right one). I can't tell you if it's common practice to live together like that in Hungary in general, but it was certainly a common thing for my family. I have to tell you that we aren't exactly the avarage family. My grandmother had 10 siblings, her parents were 5, his husband had 4 siblings. My mother had 3 siblings, and I am the middle child. We (my grandma and grandpa, all 4 of their children, and me and my older brother) were all living together for a long time in the same building/buildings spending a lot of time together. I also think that it is the best for everybody if all 3 generations spend a lot of time together. I was lucky to experience this and see the world from not just my eyes but from the stories i heard from my grandparents too. This brings me to your first question. Transgenerational traumas... Explaining from my personal experience, looking at the whole it is good to have a big family but it can be bad too. If you have a misfortunate thing happen to somebody for example, because it will affect everyone. My grandmother had a sister with disability, and she was looking after her until she passed away. My mothers siblings had accidents and substance abuse, and this put a lot of strain on the family financially and emotionally too, causing the traumas. Where does this come from? I only heard that grandpa was also drinking a lot when he was young, before he gave it up for the family. His father was a troubled man and didn't treat him very well...Grandpa also lived through the '56 revolution as a teenager. Some hungarians in the past, I guess because of their ancestry aswell, were saying things like "german brothers are coming to help" in 1944, they were referring to the nazis. After the german help failed, the soviets stayed, with their malenki robot... We are "always" caught between one side of stupidity or threat and the other (on the schengen border, betwwen east and west, islam and christian). Just listen to or read a translation of the hungarian Hymn, it is the saddest most trauma filled thing ever, and every children has to learn it in school. This had long lasting effect passing from generation to generation. I think now we just want to be left alone and be caucious and sceptical with everything. Not everybody of course (the ones with traumas passed down and learned). There is for example a remebrance day (Kitörés Emléktúra) held every february by some people which seems on the surface as harmless, explained with their own words "patriots meeting, not neo nazis" but i am sceptical when i can see the guy wearing a jacket with a german SS logo on it. And the Antifa is also visiting this every year of course, they like to clash. Somehow they forget the deportation of Jews from Hungary to Auschwitz.... I by no means want to say that if some families who lost their family members in the Kitörés event can not be good people. But I am almost sure, that some are not able to grief properly and turn their rage against something that they shouldn't, and this hate can be hijacked, and it is done. And there are all those jewish families, just think about that trauma that was inherited... Long story short, i find it interesting that most Polish people for example can relate to when i say that I don't want anybody to preach to me. I don't want Putin, and i don't want Biden or Ursula. I don't mind to be cooperating in normal things that is for sure 100% for the good cause, but don't expect me to go into your 2nd Cold War. It will just not end well. I, or We just want to build our future.That is all.

[@holofernesz]

@@hansleijonmarck9768 For the question of the NATO application. The reason it was blocked is simply that your politicians have been playing an anti-Hungarian propoganda game for too long. Many of your politicians and MEP's are constantly saying things against the country. What took the cake was that a video surfaced in the public school system, a video made and approved by the government, stating how backwards we are and anti-democratic we are. And then your politicans starting demanding that we allow them to join NATO. I can say from my perspective, If I were a politican, you would not be in a position to ask me for anything. It's a political row...nothing else. And they seemed to have resolved it. There are many good things in our relationship, but I would have to say, that I was personally offended after reading (actual translations and not media interpretations) some of the things being said about us.

[@anotherelvis]

Please make a similar video on Romania. How sustainable is their economic growth? What are they doing right?

[@ekesandras1481]

Romanian politics is too chaotic to ever form any authoritarian tendencies. So basically economic liberalism is guaranteed by the chaos in politics.

[@cristibrad6742]

@@ekesandras1481 not entirely true for those with a keen eye and knowledge of Balkan style politics. It is more like if Sicily was the entire Italian Peninsula, with romanians hoping for a Mussolini to at least try to bring the mob down a peg. And the economic growth is a sham offset by irresponsible government spending on nothings and embezzlement so nothing ever goes into any kind of useful long term project, only stitches to prolong the inevitable crash. Putin also started by working, dominating and later merging the underworld with the state and here we are today.

[@ekesandras1481]

@@cristibrad6742 Romanian media is centered in Bucharest and from a Southern perspective things might appear like that (although also Bucharest has experienced a huge economic boom and a significant increase in life quality for most of its inhabitants). From within the Carpathians things look much brighter. There are incompetent idiots also here, but we have no mob and no PSD ruling the rural areas. In general things are going very well here. (P.S. we also don't need no autostrada to Bucharest, the ones we have are already enough, maybe the one from Sibiu to Brașov would still be nice to be built).

[@GaborFarago-fp1ns]

Mióta Csaut meg ölték,azóta folyamatosan veszik fel a nagyobbnál nagyobb hiteleket! Rengeteg tartozásuk van! Lessz még ott baj,nem is kicsi.🤔👀

[@mireliris4799]

​@@GaborFarago-fp1ns that's just not true , we have one of the lowest debt to gdp in the EU . As soon as the goverment is underfunded , they raise taxes , to the hatred of Romanians, who hate taxes, but it's what you are supposed to do . Romania has a problem with innequality specificly because it has very underfunded goverment services, corrupt too, but even if they are corrupt, but they are still underfunded . Growth however , is not a problem in Romania . Eventually it will probably get closer to western nations , or maybe it will go more America , who knows . But it's definetly more Texas , than France . And we are defenetly ok with foreign investment . And guess what local capital is going up now too, the first Romanian multinationals are comming up . Because once Romanians worked in the Multinationals , they saw how things are done , and did it themselves. The average Romanian will not tell you this, because they're the biggest cry babys on this planet , a thing that actually is kinda positive, things like customer services are preatty good now, but Romania if nothing goes wrong geopolitically , will probably be a very rich country in the next 10 years.

[@mordechaiwolkenbruch7349]

A small correction: the main reason Orbán came to power in 2010 was because of the previous government's unprecedented scandals. Orbán managed to become the main charismatic voice of the opposition. The 2008 market crash was just oil on the already existing fire, but a landslide Fidesz victory in 2010 was already inevitable at the time.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

"The German auto industry is in free fall" - is a ridiculous exaggeration.

[@ChineseKiwi]

It isn't. Near 6,000,000 cars produced in late 2017 to half of that in mid 2023. That's a freefall. Not to mention consumers are realising that German cars aren't actually that reliable or luxurious anymore vs the competition, who offer better in both aspects at a lower price point. Ask anyone who actually knows cars.

[@baronvonjo1929]

Maybe. Idk I keep seeing negative articles about the entire German manufacturing industry. That doesn't mean I believe it. Its just the headlines I keep seeing. Such things no doubt make average people start to believe it when they see it everywhere. I ain't putting my time to investigate it personally, just trying to explain why I think it was mentioned. My point is there is a narrative about it is that its in decline, so don't be surprised if you see more of it.

[@bogdangiusca7431]

The number of cars Germany makes is now almost half the one a few years ago: 2022: 3.6 million 2016: 6.0 million

[@rasyidpangrango4690]

feel like Europe in general is declining in many sector, like Manufacture, semiconductor, and garment.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

@@ChineseKiwi But thats because they trippled their sales before when they started selling cars big time in China. The chinese market is getting closed for them though because China is pushing it's domestic companies with state money. Their sales in the West are stable and they will find new markets in India, Africa and south America. Even if they don't they didn't lose their reputaion at all. Thats just propaganda.

[@JohnSmith-dq7sr]

Interesting well made video, though I do slightly disagree at 7:32 about Hungary being pushed into Chinese/Russian arms Imo it's a self inflicted wound, corruption and lack of rule of law can't be hurts foreign investment and they could get EU funding back if they followed the rules eu members has agreed to put in place. So it looks more like someone digging their own hole deeper than someone being pushed into something to me.

[@spxram4793]

you're right. Hungary is investing into German and Turkish arms, Rheinmetall builds a factory for APVs. But this will not stop Orban from being a political moron.

[@luisromanlegionaire]

Self inflicted wound, lol. The wound was there created by the EU. How would you like it if you had to pay your bills and your bank ie the EU is not giving you your money. Id say your finances would be pretty bad/wounded.

[@kevhynaleks2631]

There is no corruption and lack of rule of law in Hungary, this is why foreign investers (not just from China, but factually on the last 3 years their was the bigger investors). In 2018 BMW and french Airbus arrived, in 2021 Rheinmetal and Bosch building their main factories into Hungary. The EU subsidies are insignificant to our economies, only 1% of the whole, we can be without that. But of course we will not be, because that simply bandit-stole from the EU, we will not left that for them, to give to Ukraine. We will leave the sinking EU boat ASAP, if we was able to prepare that well (around 2030 we will do it)... Than, you can F urself!

[@Matti_us_Alpe]

I am still wondering why people cannot understand that countries follow THEIR interests. Countries have different priorities and incentives. The rules of interactions are different than between people.

[@hitchwainwright7516]

Heb d‘Schnure und blas am Köppel sis Schnäbi witer.

[@militaryorchid7937]

Because it is their interest not to understand. :)

[@korneld]

Orbán follows no other interest than his own. He is an embarrassment to my country and a scourge to Europe.

[@krameri5]

But in Hungary even us dont understand our government. And this is not just the current one, but more like a pattern: The actual party in power makes really shady businesses with eastern countries, and the parties in opposition whine about it, as it feels like our country is being sold. Then few elections later the roles switch, and those who in opposition protected the people's interest get into power and start making even shadier businesses.

[@MrFlugi]

you talk about democracies maybe. Sometimes a country follows the leader's personal interest. Sadly.

[@vipeton.8927]

Good video. Dreher beer from Hungary is great.

[@peterbalogh8138]

My, what a loaded question the title is - first, it is not "love" but normal trading for mutual benefits (incidentally, what is the volume of this trade compared to, say Belgium and Russia, or Germany and Russia? Just curious....); second, Hungary has been improving quite well, and that in the last year there have been some ripples, that's not an issue, as the investments are continuing, that country has not been downgraded by credit agencies, and managed even without EU funds - and talking about "crony capitalism" I am still eagerly awainting the mysterious SMS messages between Pfizer and Ursula von der Leyen.

[@bjornborg4849]

You will never see them. She deleted even more messages it came out recently

[@milutinke]

I was in Hungary last week, the inflation is way worse than here in Serbia, and we're considered to be in a bad shape.

[@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723]

just make some idiots don't shoot a messenger or diplomat,

[@motyouh1477]

Quantify your claim! How much (in %) is "way worse"?

[@jokerfaceoff4718]

But the average salary in Hungary is more Than a double whats in Serbia...

[@tamastacsi1175]

It is ridiculous to say that Hungary is helping Russia by buying Russian oil and gas, because then it can also be said that Ukraine is helping Russia by transporting it to Hungary.

[@tiborbede8972]

Good summary! Hungarian farmer here. As you showed on the graph after the comunism the economy was horrible. It was only prosperous when he came on power with his way. Many people saw the flaws of the system but there were progress never like before only depression and stagnation. The whole home industry was sold to foreigners after the comunism within a few years. We became an only import market for decades. The main reason for this Tug of War i think is that the "government" wants the economy driving companies "back" and the western based companies dont want to loose their well paying markets (why would they? So the government tries to rule them out with their tools) These reclaims were funded from the EU funds partly thats why they stopped it so we fell partly back in the post-comunism era where there are expenditures and anxiety. Sad to see this we should work togeather on the bigger problem of the Europe's free falling global influence and declyning population. At least there is a "bad guy" for every politician who can be blamed

[@watchlover7750]

I was in Budapest last week, honestly I didn't think prices would be so high

[@lacikocsis]

I don't know where you are from, but average income in Hungary is about 1300 EUR per month (900 EUR after taxes)

[@matekiraly46]

​@@lacikocsisAzé szeretném én látni azt az átlag 350ezret amit kiszámoltál

[@lacikocsis]

@@matekiraly46 én meg még annál is jóval többet szeretnék látni

[@lacikocsis]

@@kristofnemeth2133 az átlagként szeretnék látni ennél jóval többet, én kösz jól vagyok

[@lacikocsis]

@@kristofnemeth2133 mondom megint,én kösz megvagyok :) az átlagról beszélek

[@balazsdomjan7541]

Even to me, a Hungarian, this video was quite informative and helped putting things in context. Sad what happened (and still happening) to our country.

[@IntoEurope]

Glad I could be of service :)

[@n3clar]

Go and vote

[@herptek]

Hungary should remember what it is to be a vassal and a puppet state such as during the cold war. With relations to Russia or the PRC everything has a catch.

[@mistercuriousmind]

I have to double down on that. I am also a Hungarian. I was skeptical about the video, whether it can give a good light on the happenings. I have to say it gave me a wholesome of news. But knowing the events in Hungary it makes sense. Perhaps facts are overly simplified here and there, but this video isn't about the fine details. Also thank you for clarifying the fact, that Hungary is a Russian trojan horse. They can cause serious damage to the integrity of Europe. But I think they are more likely driven by the facts you mentioned to save the economy from their mistakes, with that saving their power, than simply allying with the aggressor for its sake. Nevertheless I disagree with their policies.

[@zsoltbr]

@@n3clar voting does not help since the election system favors Fidesz (some votes double count - eg. in 2018 they got over 66% of the seats in parliament with 49.5% of the votes.)

[@ioan_jivan]

Hungary, Austria and prob Slovakia seem to have a friendly attitude towards Russia.

[@gezaeckrich6773]

Ja , und Frieden , keine kriege ,das haben wir schon genug erlebt, und hat gereicht !!Die hetze von westliche Politik hat,uns endgültig gereicht !! 😉😉😉😀😀

[@kevhynaleks2631]

Few countries not lost their brains...

[@GaborFarago-fp1ns]

Ez így igaz.na meg a Török!❤

[@somorjai]

We don't have problems with Russia, since their army have left the country, we have a correct relationship. They fulfill every contract. Unlike Ukrain which is the most corrupt country in the world, pushes all the trash into rivers, you don't see the images what is happenning every spring since 2006, rivers are fully covered with trash, and more islands of trash floats than birds. But it is not politically correct to say/write about it in the west. And this is just the smallest thing Ukraine does, before the war they stopped the gas in the gas pipeline, stolen the gas for years, they disregard every contract, their maffia is terrible and they are terrorizing minorities in every way.

[@vergozero9806]

Neutral, i would say

[@gaia-australis]

An interesting analysis, but the background noise became too loud at points, making it difficult to hear what you were saying.

[@aba1829]

Thanks, very interesting video! In the end, at around 9:00, the music became too loud. I found it hard to concentrate on the words you are saying.

[@keresztnevemvezeteknevem5395]

As hungarian I can say, that history taught us that we have to consider not only one regional/global power at a time. This video summarize the EU perspective. Thats all right, it has many important aspect. But the EU is not a sole power of the world, and if a government of a small easten-european country with small resources and population has more perspective, and not only wants to survive the present crisis, then it will exactly do what present hungarian government do. Hungarian government tries to build strong national related group of big firms, industry, the banking sector, what is exaclty the same thing what Japan, Small-Tigers, China did, before they could show great economic performance. Hungary tries to rebuild a strong Eastern-Europe but because of present ukrainian war the alliance of some countries in the region (V4) decayed. So Hungary seraches for new countries to cooperate with. These are Serbia, and Turkey nowdays most of all. If V4 could be strong we also could cut connections with Russia or China as western countries tries the same nowdays, but they also didn't succeeded! So why for the god's sake ask the same a small very dependent country the same?

[@oguzakkaya4720]

I'm Turkish and I live in Hungary, beautiful country with values. Not everything is about cheap Doritos and high wages, EU and West fanboys don't understand this. I believe Hungary is going in the right direction, well it's tough considering the economy isn't really great, quality of life is incredibly higher here in Hungary than Western powers like France or Germany.

[@Aggoenix]

As a Czech until Hungary radically changes its political course and leadership i absolutely refuse to have any form of cooperation in V4 and i believe Poland right now is also not very eager to promote V4 cooperation, especially when a new much more pro-eu and prowestern goverment there is coming. Right now i would absolutely prefered to cooperate with Baltics or Slovenia in V4 instead of Orbans regime, where he plays it on all sides turning out he looses all friends and completely isolated Hungary as some weird island which is hated by the west, but the east dont see it as approachable considering the fact its still Nato, EU, and is surrounded by Nato and EU countries from almost all sides.

[@axoloneidolon4702]

​@@Aggoenixwhat an honor! The prime minister of Czechia himself commented here.

[@Aggoenix]

@@axoloneidolon4702 when we are about that our PM actually shares almost identical view on Hungary. We are just in V4 so hes not openly so critical of Hungary but he shares very different views than Orban. I dont understand how Hungary has all the bonuses of being in the EU, but gives so little in return and actually sometimes openly damage interests of EU countries.

[@markthem]

@@Aggoenix its because the strong german interest as said in the beginning of the video. hungarys big asset is the cheap labor, and low taxes for german car manufacturers compared to other nations. orban uses this as political high ground when he makes his dirty deals with russia and china. In a way he blackmails the EU-s economically, as well as politically.

[@theabaddon7457]

me as a hungarian seeing the title of the video: "*sigh* here we go again".

[@alfoldmapping5504]

I feel the same, fellow Hungarian...

[@HungaryBased]

​@@alfoldmapping5504Dont believe in western propaganda.

[@pepsimsniff8967]

Why does the title and thumbnail keep changing every hour

[@IntoEurope]

Because I am optimizing :)

[@mbalazs3544]

2:59 and mostly he become to power, because he promised the left side will be punished for the crimes they committed and will be held countable. The mai reason most Hungarians declared political war to the left "MSZP" was the "Öszöd speach" that was leaked where hungarika Prime minister of that time told a speak that was unacceptable, Than he did not step down and his minions in MSZP stood by him. No imagine that in aspech you political leader multiple times, insults Hungarian people, the country admits "We did nothing we pretended to work" "we lied" "its am miracle we are in power" "we lied to the EU and faked documents". That Gyurcsány Ferenc is still the useful dummy (Gy.F.) of the left side and Fides politely attacs everyone else keeping the left side divided and kepeind the right sides power

[@SzamBacsi]

Hungarian is known to be one of the most challenging languages globally, resulting in limited proficiency among speakers. Consequently, three significant consequences arise: firstly, media outlets often lack sufficient knowledge about Hungary, and secondly, individuals may rely on liberal media sources for information. As a result, readers may encounter difficulties in verifying the accuracy and validity of the information presented. Liar videos can be created without facing any consequences. If one resides in Hungary, they would be familiar with the country's primary principle: "Leave us the f.... alone!" It is important to note that neither the citizens nor the government of Hungary support the Russians. Thanks.

[@SimpleSteve5]

Ez azért nem teljesen igaz, Orbán nyugattal szemben nagyon kritikus mig kelettel nagyon megengedő (pl. ha putyinéknál esnek ki az ablakon az ujsagirok az szóra sem érdemes, de ha az EU-ban egy kicsit is felmerül az elfogult újságirás megy a libsi alázás). Vagy másik példa: A fidesz kiáll Izrael mellett az izraeli-palesztin háborúban, de az orosz-ukrán háborúban nem foglal el ugyanilyen kemény álláspontot. Mindebből úgy néz ki hogy orbán feje rendesen benne vagy putyin seggében. A "Leave us the f.... alone!" pedig nincs értelme tekintve, hogy egy európai közösség része vagyunk. A jogállam helyreállitásán kivül pedig nem kért mást tőlünk az EU, ami azért nem egy olyan nagy kérés, hanem az EU alapelve, amely Magyarországon az elmúlt években rendesen csorbult. Összefoglalva: Orbán tartja a markát a delláért, de a jogállamot nem hajlandó helyreálltani cserébe. (Magyarország 20 éve sokszosan annyi pénzt kap az eutól mint amennyit befizet.)

[@martymatthew5225]

As a Hungarian I can safely state that both the government and the citizens support the Russians, at least the majority. It's not something they're open to talk about, but something they're ashamed of. They just look at it if there's no other option for us and this is the only way. Also, I don't know about the national spirit, but the youth is definitely not living by the "Leave us the fuck alone" principle. That is just the mentality of the conservative and older people who are tired enough to accept things how they are instead of facing another new wave of change. But the society of Hungary is a tragic sight to look down on, people's minds are still haunted by the communism and they need someone to form an opinion instead of them, truly the tragedy of individual thinking and openness. These things are the main causes that a corrupt leader is still supported by the majority. Sadly, I really can't be proud that I am Hungarian, all I feel when I talk about my nationality is shame...

[@viktorszenasi3664]

That's not even remotely true. For example, in The BayerShow, the guests who are open about their allegiance to Fidesz literally declared that anyone with a brain supports Russia. HírTV is financed by the state even if indirectly, everything they say is what the Fidesz actually thinks but can't say because of obvious diplomatic reasons. The government is pro-russia.

[@Wanamaker1946]

….and yet, Hungary is the safest Country in all of Europe to visit and live. There are no “issues” with killing Priests and rapes. I’ll visit Hungary first on the list. All the economies are in dire straights these days.

[@Wanamaker1946]

It is the USA that brought about the Ukraine issue, from the planned coupe in 2014 by the US ie. Victoria Nuland and the CIA, and then Biden ridding the US oil pipelines of the former President Trump, and by stopping the US pipelines oil jumped in price and Putin saw dollar signs $$$$! and chose to attract The Ukraine because he could now afford to. Thank you Joe Biden. If DJT were still Presdient, there would have never been an Ukraine War, nor the Israeli issue.

[@chiman75]

north korea is one of the safest countries on the planet

[@thomasdeak7762]

It is good and important, but it is no excuse for the likes of Orbán, Mészáros and Tiborcz.

[@jefferyfite7122]

@@chiman75 Not much to eat unfortunately.

[@chiman75]

@@jefferyfite7122 with a magnificent leader like that u don't need food.

[@path1024]

LOL, your map is wrong. It says Russia where Ukraine is.

[@VagiPeti]

Have you ever been to Hungary? Or googled together everyrhing in thes video?

[@Akitlosz]

Hungary helps itself. And not fail. Germany, Russia, and China also have a strong interest in Hungary's success. And Turkey too. The new German Rheinmetall KF51 Panther tank will also be manufactured in Hungary.

[@MineK_FG]

What do you mean by Hungary helps itself? Orbán stole the money from hospitals and Kari Geri can't repair the roads. Hungarian politics is a joke. 😂

[@Akitlosz]

​@@MineK_FG Hungary do not helps Russia, but itself. Hungary needs oil, gas, and uranium. Only Russia can give enough.

[@Alienhdudu]

Meglep , hogy nem találok egy magyar nyelvű hozzászólást sem.Persze nem baj ez. Ami érdekel az úgyis lefordíom magamnak, csak érdekelne, hogy ezt az egyszerű dolgot megteszi-e más is. Arra gondolok, hogy a magyarul írt hozzászólásokat vagy magyar posztokat lefodítják-e maguknak mert érdekli őket, nem csak itélkeznek. Ezt a hozzászólást tekinthetjük egy tesztnek is.Köszönöm azoknak, akik veszik a fáradságot és lefordítják a maguk nyelvére. Tisztelettel Kiss Lajos egy kíváncsi átlag magyar!

[@gamerixhun4347]

De találsz csak amiért az angol nyelvű vidceó így hogy mindeki értse angolul írják le a véleményüket. Én is úgy írtam hogy a csávó más szemszögből is lássa a dolgokat

[@rikfable1612]

Jellemzően nem célravezető egy kizárólag magyar nyelvű emberrel politikai dolgokról nekiállni vitatkozni. Nem támogatok egy parlamenti pártot vagy független képviselőt sem, a teljes társaság megérdemelne egy dunábalövést az elvégzett munkájukért. Ellenben a kívülállók nem csak a propagandáikból merítkeznek , és hamar nyilvánvalóvá válik, hogy mennyire hülyére is van véve az átlagember a köztévé/kormányszócsövek által. Gyönyörű nyelvünk van, aki ezzel született egy életre hálás lesz, de a vezetőink az utolsó szálig megátalkodott kutyát, akik a gyerekeik szájából is kivennék a falatot, ha profitálnak belőle.

[@-j1-_]

You forgot that in Hungary, every possible job has a 20-65% lower payment than EU/Schengen standards, and even tho they are raising the paymets, they also raise inflation and taxes, making the Forint even worse than before, alongside with 370 forint is being 1 dollar/euro. If you do the math, than for example, a nurse in Hungary gets around 900k - 1.5m of a payment monthly (depending on the level), that converts to around 1000-3000 euros. Now in Germany, I don't have to say, it's at least 5-6k euro...

[@MrEaaasyXD]

900k HUF for a nurse? More like 3-400k…. Or less

[@balzug]

a nurse will never get 900k in Hungary, divide it by 3

[@norbs993]

As a Hungarian, I have the same question .....

[@henrik4438]

Where I would live in Europe? 1. Switzerland 2. Denmark 3. Hungary Other than that? USA

[@jerrymiller9039]

More importantly. Why does the EU love china and Russia and Iran

[@Joel86543]

The answer:they don't

[@jerrymiller9039]

@@Joel86543 yes the eu has a long history of prioritizing trade with both despite knowing their history and crimes against humanity

[@jerrymiller9039]

@@eudaimonn I sound like someone that takes reality into account when forming my opinions

[@locust3160]

​@@jerrymiller9039yes a yankee who been brainswashed by his own government

[@gergoszilagyi7948]

Ohh boy:) could you please share your references in this topic?

[@Rizhiy13]

00:09 This is a map crime, I have no idea what is what. Please use something clearer in the future.

[@Silver_Prussian]

Ok I know the russia is much more powerful country than hungary in terms of economy but they were able to transfer from making european to chinese cars in no time, from buying european to chinese cars. Hungary can do that same with a strong initiatiative. This could be a way for china to breake into the european marcket.

[@editfazekas3854]

Why should China break into the European market? They have already destroyed the textile and shoe industries of all European countries with their cheap crap, what else do you want?

[@mdw9604]

Nice hit piece on Hungary. How much you get paid for this? Hungary didn't allow millions of immigrants which it was pressured to do, it has conservative values. The EU is in freefall, Hungary will remain a soverign nation and out live the likes France, Germany etc.

[@krakenroll.]

hungary seems to be falling way faster than the eu lmao

[@parslowpongbert1566]

Birds of a feather flock together.

[@Bend22]

You should change the title: “Why Hungary's GOVERNMENT Helps Russia” Not many Hungarians agree with Orbán don’t worry about that…

[@giorgilabadze1]

i was there few days ago they seem allright :D in every sector i noticed

[@xyxy1591]

I don't really understand when west say Hungary help Russia when buying gas and oil. Yes Hungary buy just like America India (and from India buy Germany and other EU members!) Greek(also sam make money on same way as India)! why problem Hungary dont playing fool as west do!

[@Worldaffairslover]

Hungary isn’t a 1st world country. Italy is a 1.5 world country. China’s BRE is deep in Hungary and Italy

[@JonathanSwiftUK]

Easy choice, have an election. Let the people confirm what direction they want to go.

[@mullergyula4174]

We have it every 4 years.

[@andreasstampf6690]

The problem is that Hungary wants to go a different way while still staying in the EU and NATO and sell access to anybody who pays. As somebody from a neighboring country I am sad to see Hungary moving into different directions but it is their decision. So go with god, but plz go and gtfo of EU and NATO.

[@navrasicsi]

No, sorry, I am afraid you don't understand the situation. The majority of the media (80%) is directly controlled by the government. If you turn on the radio sitting in your car, you hear 50 minutes music, and 10 mintes of propaganda, 0 minutes of news every hour. The same on the TV, newspapers, and Internet. There are almost no independent news sources. They have to power to tell people what they should think. And enough people will obey, as they simply don't know the facts based on they could take the right decision. Also, Orbán is constantly modifying the election system, which is now totally unbalanced and unfair. Orbán will reign as long as he wants.

[@roberthunka]

Easy answer, this is where we want to go. Majority leads i guess 😔

[@randomdude9262]

People are manipulated by government propaganda. The entire mainstream media is government controlled. There are not many free-thinking citizens left. Elections are just a formality. Orban's reign cannot be ended by democratic means, only by force. But unfortunately, critical mass hasn't been reached yet to start a revolution.

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

Before Russia can open a Balkan corridor to them it will be very difficult for Hungary to resist the pressure, they have Turk stream, but they are landlocked, Romania(complete puppet of the US/EU) can block the gas flow and they are screwed.

[@kevhynaleks2631]

No, there is no gas from Romania to Hungary. The turkish stream not accidentaly not flowing through Romania, but through Serbia, Bulgaria, Turkey. The other line flowed through Ukraine, that's why that was really horrific for Hungary, but since the south-pipeline, we not depending from these hostile countries...

[@cristibrad6742]

wow. Romania is no puppet. Its 'wild' capitalism, heavy state control of population income and politics like the state is run by the Sicilian mafia before and during Mussolini's Italy. If tomorrow Russia or China come swinging and they leave the mafia alone, you bet your %$$ in 1 week you will see a frauded roExit and something done about NATO (thank god for the USA forces at Deveselu strategic anti missile systems [the nuke umbrella for the east] ). Why do you think that major mining projects were being sabotaged and the debacle about the gas/oil from the Black Sea back pedalled and Austria / Russia being big on gas / oil extracted from Romanian soil and other resources such as wood (Austria) / steel (Russia).

[@GaborFarago-fp1ns]

Úgy látom te be téptél?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Hordassz itt össze baromságot👎😠

[@santaclaus0815]

I don't see the German auto industry collapsing at the moment. The share prices are good. The chip shortage has been overcome. The next challenge is e-cars from China. But there is currently no indication of a collapse in the numbers. There is a tiny recession in the German economy, but this cannot be attributed to the automotive sector.

[@imotalus7138]

In Budapest they have a museum called "House of Terror Museum" and it has some great context which I believe to be interesting considering what's been said in this video.

[@telemkam]

This certainly explains my friend's, who lives in budapest, conservative views despite it not making sense for what he's apart of. Thanks for making this

[@Charity4Orphans]

Because Germany is a backstabber.

[@MartinWood912]

How exactly?

[@Charity4Orphans]

@@MartinWood912 because of the business contract and production of your labor force. Used the people of hungry, destroyed the cleanest source of energy available “Nuclear” and then asks such a question.

[@MartinWood912]

@@Charity4Orphans I don't understand your first points. What contracts and production? What do you mean by used Hungarian people? Germany phased out nuclear in Germany. Every other country can use it - whats your problem here?

[@weeb3277]

why do you move your hands so much? does it make it easier for you to talk or do you think it makes the video more interesting (maybe put an animation where your hands are then)?

[@serebii666]

His hands are fine. If you have a problem with his presentation style, then you can easily click away.

[@chnb517]

its very distracting now that you mention it

[@user-tb2nt4fc5o]

Although a bit superficial, it's pretty accurate. Congrats

[@albevanhanoy]

"Democratize OR Let your country fall in ruin, become a pariah among the Union you are a part of, and draw 25 cards." *Picture of Orban with 25 cards*

[@Silver_Prussian]

You mean democratize and let your country fall in ruin or draw 25 Orban draws 25

[@albevanhanoy]

@@Silver_Prussian Lol. If he democratized Hungary, he would see a massive economic boost, instead of the current situation which is entirely his fault.

[@Silver_Prussian]

@@albevanhanoy most countries in the world are democracies have they seen economic boost or success ? No. What is this childish logic. Democracy does not equal economic success.

[@albevanhanoy]

@@Silver_Prussian 1) There is a very clear correlation between democratic freedom and economic success, especially in Europe. Ignore that all you want it will stay true 2) In order to become part of the EU, there were some democratic conditions to meet. Ignore these conditions, and all the EU development aid is gone. If Hungary wants to reap the benefits, they need to abide by the rules. 3) When you follow the Russian model and let oligarchs control the economy, it never benefits the population 4) This Video

[@Silver_Prussian]

@@albevanhanoy1st there is no clear correlation on between economic success and democracy, was democracy the status quo in europe a few hundred year ago ? No. And countries were still rich stil an economic success. I can point at almost every single african, south american, middle eastern and asian county that is democracy and is not economically successful. Does china not exist to you as prime example that your theory is wrong. 2nd thats the problem of the eu they have an ideological dogma and requirement that you need to follow like a good obedient puppy otherwise you get screwed. The problem her is that they decide what is democratic and what isnt democratic enough. So for hungary to get eu funding they would literally have do things they dont want, thats forceful. 3rd except that the oligarchs dont control the economy, no that was the case in the 90s with the great liberal model which failed astonishingly. The oligarchs are just wealthy businessmen with big bussiness that operate in the country but russias economy is not within their hands not by a long shot. The you look at south korea and cyberpunk story in the making and truly realise what corporations and control means. 4th this video and the graphs feature literary font have info from 2023 but from 2020

[@sahelanthropus4991]

Yes by taking in Ukrainian refugees and paying more support to Ukraine /GDP than most countries, Hungary helps Russia

[@PMMagro]

Hungary is a one party state. The regime needs enemies, real or not and internal out outside Hungary to keep power/manging the populations disscontent. The obsession with immigrants is ironic as the main issue is Hungarians leaving Hungary. Some hopefully returns but ...losing many young Hungarians after they have grown up and been educated in Hungary is harsh. One party states are noturiuosly corrupt and Hungary is no exception. The longer Fidez stays in power the worse it will get.

[@zsoltbr]

Orban plans now until 2034. After that, who knows? But anyhow, probably someone from the family will take over. (He has 5 kids, they'll find one heir until then.)

[@peterbalogh8138]

You don't know much about Hungary, do you?

[@madmax6827]

What do you mean a one party state? Just because the numerous opposition leftist parties don't enjoy the support of the majority doesn't make it a dictatorship. Would you say the same for countries run by leftist governments?

[@HungaryBased]

More Hungarians are returning then leaving the country.

[@Silver_Prussian]

They are obsessed with immigrants ? What about all the cultural enrichment the eu was shoving dow the throat of all its citizens

[@Sharp931]

Our government plays Tropico in the middle of Europe.

[@gergoszilagyi7948]

Anyway, what about one if the most important car factor, Suzuki?

[@Kemano24]

3:21 I think you missed the main points of the stabilization process. Like his predecessors Orban also used austerity, but unlike their predecessors he didn't raise taxes on income but rather introduced special/sectoral taxes on enterprises which people eventually pay in rising prices and pulled money from social wellfare systems. This made austerity levelled and invisible to the society. More importantly Orban managed to channel the eu funds into the hungarian economy. That besides the hidden austerity program allowed the hungarian economy to get rid of the balance sheet deficit and foreign currency loan financing constraint. People attribute their slow growth of living conditions to a better governing method of Orban. But in fact, the main stabilizing component is the EU funds.

[@peterkovacs4]

We give 5 times the value that we get trough the funds, slowbrains cant understand that when we have join we gave our free national market to western multis When Hungarian corporations werent competitive. Now they are, and we prefer our own. And thats why we have started to grow.

[@Vagolyk]

Even from before the soviet occupation Hungary tried to stay afloat by playing the west and the east against each other. Balancing on the razor's edge is not a long term strategy, but that's what the political heritage dictates it seems. Sadly Hungary has nothing substantial left to offer on its own if it was to commit to either side either so the balancing act continues until a major slip up or a foreign occupation.

[@FILOZOFUS87]

The main mistake was to join the war against the USSR in 27 June 1941. Hungary does not want to repeat this mistake.

[@gabor222]

@@FILOZOFUS87 I'm afraid they would have "liberated" us anyway and the western powers wouldn't have done anything to prevent it.

[@user-bb6cr9tj4s]

Interesting video, but in many terms it is as far from the thruth as Makó from Jerusalem. The situation is much more complex than you described it.

[@laszlokovacs6154]

WET DREAM OF THE GLOBALISTS 😂😂😂

[@MiSt3300]

As a Polish person I'm sadly surprised that Hungary is going down the authoritarian path. We in Poland have had our share of democratic backsliding, however it's a lot calmer than what is happening in Hungary. It's surprising that it's even allowed what's happening there, that the people don't react. At least everyone around Hungary can see what happens when you take the authoritarian route. Your country falls apart.

[@nnkk7742]

Stop protecting them.

[@JUAN_OLIVIER]

Authoritarian path, you mean like a lot of western European countries sending to police to your house because you dared to say something online that offends someone on the left?

[@alfoldmapping5504]

I'm Hungarian and I'm sad about this too. I hate Putin and Orban.

[@MiSt3300]

@@nnkk7742 it's not me that protects anyone, but the stupid piss government that I didn't vote for.

[@MiSt3300]

@@alfoldmapping5504 good to hear this. And I totally see what you mean. I hate Kaczynski, Orban and Putin also, the authoritarian old corrupt men

[@hansleijonmarck9768]

How will this influence Swedens NATO accession process being finilized?

[@borfogyasztoelsoszamu2493]

Its more benneficial for us not to get involved with affairs between east and west or at least try to minimize the involvment. Plus cheap energy

[@zse5822]

Respect Hungary!!

[@bulcsuvezer9378]

Although you emphasize the importance of information from a wide range of sources, you still couldn't get out of the opinion bubble of mainstream one-sided political bias!

[@zoli8569]

In short, everyone is fckin us... even ourselves

[@Wanderer_1877]

One of the most important factors I think is that when the foundations of the current system in Hungary - my country - was established in the first half of the 2010s, Orbán found very palpable support from Putin. They made a deal with the Russians about a huge investment in the Hungarian nuclear plant (including receiving a huge credit from Russia). They kept the details secret (as many other things since then). However, from the telling of defectors and from the huge turnround in Orbán's relation to Putin (which used to be quite hostile in the 2000s) there were much more going on in the background. Most probably the Orbán family (which has become a billionaire dynasty since then) got a huge - I mean HUGE - bribe from the Russians for free use. Only the tightest circle on the top was aware of it and benefitted from it. It probably meant a considerable support for laying down the foundations of the new elite around one distinct family. But it means that Orbán was put under an obligation and he's not free anymore, even if policy interests would dictate otherwise. I think the real depths of this story will be revealed only after the fall of this system, which is unfortunately still much further down the road...

[@thomasdeak7762]

It also must be noted that all these battery and EV factories are built (planned) with a total disregard of environmental concerns and the interest of local citizens.

[@stefansimon7061]

By not supporting Ukraine financially Hungary is helping only EU not Russia. By buying cheap Russian gas Hungary is helping only their citizens not Russia. Btw USA is helping so much Russia…

[@JanosFeher]

> By buying cheap Russian gas Hungary is helping only their citizens not Russia. Most of the Russian energy goes to the German industrial factories in Hungary. German and Austrian politicians do the mouth karate for their own voters but never imply actual sanctions because Hungary is one of the reason why German factories still have their lights on.

[@j.k.7421]

In the Netherlands is the inflation higher...

[@AttilaGunics]

In Győr we have Audi, not Volkswagen factory

[@wegder]

I thought dictatorships were wonderful, Fox told me that.

[@kevhynaleks2631]

So you love Biden and the marxist woke dictatorship of the present. Then eat!