Why I am not a feminist | Betsy Cairo | TEDxMileHighWomen

[@TheBlackAmericana]

This brought me to tears; so many "feminists" have treated me as a pariah because I don't think the same way they do. I'm a woman against feminism because today's feminism isn't for all women...:/ thank u thank u for this talk. It was candid, refreshing and healing.

[@jacobs3671]

I totally agree. Her message in of itself could bring men and women closer together!

[@TigerPrawn_]

Chris Raz There are certain feminisms that do include men.

[@irishvirusgaming7373]

Dont cry miss you are probably a real woman

[@mdtapilatu]

Carefull young women, she's just branding it a new

[@mdtapilatu]

@@jacobs3671 closer to what specifically?

[@ScantaniouslyCombust]

And I would add, if a man had given this talk, he would've been labelled a misogynist.

[@cameronbarnes4216]

Agreed

[@johnburt7935]

Every man I've heard go off about how "feminism isn't about gender equality" always wound up saying that he thought the loss of his male privilege was gynocratic misandrisitic oppression.

[@johnburt7935]

@Ult_R4nger 94 Yeah, you're right, it couldn't possibly be because of any of that paranoid hoseshit. After all, feminists never get doxxed, or physically menaced, or victimized by regressive legislation, or have to face hostile panels of powerful men in front of a national audience and have to take their families into hiding for fear of violent reprisals against their children and their husbands.... And if you don't think male privilege exists, I invite you to create a KZbin account under a conspicuously female name, with a female photograph, and start expressing your opinions freely on videos, and see what happens.

[@axlrosesson6300]

@@johnburt7935 Do u believe male privilege exists?

[@urban_rose4096]

Exactly! Feminism has shifted from gender equality to female domination. I find women that speak out against feminism are stronger than those who BLINDLY follow it

[@joke5735]

If equality means that I have the same chance escaping the titanic on that lifeboat. Then I'm all for it.

[@binarystar300]

haha bill burr would certainly be happy about that!

[@xxxmmm3812]

also let those lunatics work the most dangerous jobs and go to war

[@dunnaredside8460]

Hardest laughter of the day. Epic mic drop.

[@juanfrancodilorenzo2016]

bill burr

[@Linge88]

@@xxxmmm3812 Yeah - let us. The problem has always been that men wouldn't let us!

[@darkhorse381]

I define my self as a MASCULINIST. But don't worry, it just means I want gender equality. If you have to explain that feminism means equality, then wouldn't it just be easier to actually use the word equality?

[@cioccolato8148]

I agree!!

[@paultoth6391]

I thought that's what she was saying anyway - the main thrust of her argument.

[@claudiareyner3371]

Because feminism wants empowerment to women

[@bloodraighna]

egalitarianism, right? lol

[@claudiareyner3371]

Agree 100%

[@ethandull3116]

“If equality is what we want then equality is the word we should be using”

[@urban_rose4096]

Exactly!

[@gayatriiyer969]

Then we are not addressing the problem

[@fartinIutherking]

@@gayatriiyer969 Exactly. Because that would require you to quash anti male laws that you're not willing to address.

[@allmight8127]

But is equlity what feminism wants cause from what iv seen that is not what it aims for

[@ethandull3116]

All Might in what you’ve seen, what do you think feminism wants? I’m not trying to attack you or nothing but I’m just curious

[@SGxShadow]

I can proudly say I am an equalist... as long as that means equality of opportunity and not equality of outcome.

[@StrategicWealthLLC]

Shadow IV - Amen. If someone says they are interested in promoting “equity”, run.

[@TheHappyLeperBeaver]

Why not equality of outcome ?

[@halofreak1990]

@@TheHappyLeperBeaver Because that would mean you would have to bring other people down in order to lift one up. Why negate the achievements of one, to compensate for the lack of another? There's nothing fair about equality of outcome.

[@jrgussngussn7093]

Yay Jordan peterson!

[@sachita8330]

@@TheHappyLeperBeaver equality is outcome is simply so unequal. it comes to contradict feminism. where women are not wanted because of their skill or competence but because they are needed. this makes it seem as if we are chosen as a number and not as an individual

[@davidlessard3877]

This woman is very intelligent. But, while I was watching, I was thinking: "She is way ahead of her time, she's gonna have trouble". I scrolled down, and my thoughts were confirmed.

[@TheFNProductionz]

This is so true, she gave a brilliant solution to an ever-spreading division in our community. What's all the hate about?

[@hbrhh2932]

"ahead of her time" she's parroting the same old rhetoric meant to shut women fighting for female emancipation up so not really

[@TONTON-ds3km]

Hb Rhh feminism isn’t needed in America, only developing countries really need it.

[@EvelynL.1112]

@@TONTON-ds3km Like Afghanistan?

[@xxxmmm3812]

@@xarastewartmusic WOMEN ARE EQUAL GET OVER YOURSELF

[@StaziiaClark3]

These comments are so triggered by nothing. Feminists SAY that they fight for equality, and this educated woman is making the point that we should skip the idea of "feminism" which divides people based on gender/sex and fight so pure equality.

[@BishtrainerTai16]

Stop using feminism because it triggers anger from anti-feminists? Boo hoo. Let try that. The pay gap is real, and women need to be encouraged and hired in companies and the government so that they have equal representation.

[@WhiVe87]

+BishtrainerTai16 The pay gap isn't real.

[@maxrav1831]

Anastaziia Clark She's an arsehole love

[@DruuzilTechGames]

@Bish - No, the pay gap is not real. The overall "earnings gap" exists because women choose not to work as many hours, and don't choose the same career fields as men. Women CHOOSE their fate. That's what being "empowered" means. As for "representation"..? Why does it matter to you what gender the people are in various fields? So long as the most qualified individuals are working in careers that they actually WANT to work in, all is well with the world. I don't care if zero women are working in STEM (or if it's 80%) so long as meritocracy is preserved. Representation is meaningless.

[@jamesdunkerson2908]

No, it isn't, and government and companies employ many women; in many cases far more than men.

[@abbygaylegrandy8741]

I took her Human Sexuality class at UNC, sat in the front row every single day. This woman's lectures are absolutely AMAZING. She was by far the best professor I had.

[@EvelynL.1112]

@Natasel How?

[@eileencejas9360]

Dear Abbygayle, do you know how can I access to her books or lectures? Thanks in advance

[@mdtapilatu]

She is brainwashing you, be a scholar,question and analize everything dont just listen and validate everything she said

[@RealLimerickman]

@Natasel ​​@MDT - Gaslighting much?

[@elvisoreilly4678]

@@EvelynL.1112 2 min in throws all science and empirical data away and support feelings

[@marhaus117]

The word "Equalism" does not exist in the dictionary, however "Egalitarianism" does exist and it means what she is talking about in this talk.

[@kittendivine1]

Still needs some denotation of gender in my opinion. I suggest Gender Rights Activism (GRA) or gender equalism or gender egalitarian.

[@panagiotiskaranatsis3593]

Εqualitarianism

[@daydreamdirty]

Equalism definitely is interesting- and can easily be made into a word

[@t.d.morrow7299]

Of course equalism doesn't exist moron the same way feminism wasn't a word. The women in 1848 weren't calling themselves feminists and neither were the women in 1920 or even 1960-1970. It's a relatively new word applied to older movements some people feel aligns with what's going on today.

[@DarcyWhyte]

Dictionaries, who needs 'em...

[@Datamike]

"If it is equality we want, why aren't we using the word equality?" Your guess as good as mine...

[@Captainrose69]

Well not with that attitude

[@simplehonestmusic2261]

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

[@sharonchevalier922]

John Smith LoL 😂 Thanks! I was thinking “Says who?”

[@miraloow]

Animal Farm, good book

[@pyromaniac4711]

Pigs gonna get it all

[@somerandomguy292]

Orwell was a socialist 😝

[@redricblue8790]

Orwell was a genius

[@okwaho5316]

Holy shit! This made too much sense. People won't like that.

[@Noone-rs9sf]

Agreed...

[@benoitgranger2773]

Indeed a quite bigger challenge than English. But hard and still necessary in every language :)

[@sebastianlee4367]

Specially those phony feminists.

[@benoitgranger2773]

Harshit Madan Do you really think those languages stood still for hundred years. They evolved, transformed by the use people had. If we become gender equalitarists, our languages will become this too. It is a social phenomenon and we may want to help it happen faster for the sake of oppressed people, women in this case

[@benoitgranger2773]

Harshit Madan. Agreed 😁.

[@montesforeman5079]

Men make up over 90% high-ranking corporate positions. Wouldn't it be nice of there were more women in those jobs? That would be MORE equality. WAIT... Men make up over 90% of sanitation workers. Wouldn't it be nice of there were more women in those jobs? That would be MORE equality. Men make up over 90% of workplace deaths. Wouldn't it be nice of there were more women in those jobs? That would be MORE equality. Oh, I forgot equality now means women can't make their own decisions.

90% of Men's Work Place Deaths is on obsolete dangerous Labor Intensive Jobs kept in place by dominating Patriarchy, NOT Women. Work to get rid of those Jobs.

[@continuouswave34]

Liam Sena, I agree. Men should stop digging the coal, stop drilling the oil, stop building the roads and cars, stop building the skyscrapers. We should stop being almost all the police and firefighters. This patriarchal structure was setup to support a system that buffers women from reality. “Woman and children first” children yes, but why women? They are not better at parenting, they are not “gentler, kinder, or more nurturing.” Have you ever held a door open to “help” a woman? Stopped to help her change a tire? Protect her from some crazy dog? Why? How often have they ever done that for a man? Break the patriarchy, stop helping women.

[@markusaurelius1739]

Truth. WELL put! Want equality? Pay half the bills, work yourself into a grave, become a protector and provider, then we can talk about equality. When I see women marching for men's reproductive rights, then I will believe they want equality.

[@stevencapitanocalitri5321]

Liam Sena obsolete? Really? Better check your privilege. Your blinders have been on from being female privileged.

[@debrawehrly9031]

Montes Foreman, if there are so many workplace deaths, then something is not right. Perhaps proper safety procedures are not in place to begin with. Who says that women are not accountable for their actions? Which women are you referring to?

[@thescoopforspoons]

Feminists are pissed off because she's not subscribing to a label. Anti-SJW's are pissed off because she didn't recite the same tired narrative that came here to have re-affirmed to themselves. And the real points of her talk are getting completely overshadowed because everyone is too caught up in wanting to be "the right one". I don't agree with her. But this was a perspective I don't think I've seen before, and it was a really interesting new light to view things under. It's nice to know how other people think, and regardless of how everyone is treating it, I thought it was well thought out. I sincerely hope that there are other people who don't completely right her off simply because she's doesn't fit neatly into whatever camp they've assigned themselves under.

[@mozziegang]

yeah me too...people dont listen to the other side. I am also guilty of this.

[@caitlinleanna5028]

thescoopforspoons I just wish she had specified if the goal was equal opportunity or equal outcome because they are very different things. I think the difference is choice. Equal opportunity says we are all born and treated basically equal and our own choices and actions account for our success or lack thereof and we determine our own outcome without diclscrimination for immutable characteristics. Equality of outcome says it doesn't matter what you do or don't do, what you choose or dont choose we are all born equal and will die equal. Any inequality may be dealt with by swiftly knocking one up l, or down a peg to ensure no one has more or less than another. I'm just not sure if that is possible without taking away any individuals choice, how else will you ensure every persona outcomes are Equal and will it be just? Any ideas I think your original comment had some great points, as did the Ted talk.

[@KoinzellGaming]

Disclaimer - I am what you would call an "anti-SJW" as I'm for free speech and the freedom of expression. I personally disagree with the notion of "gender neutral language" and that it would be an important aspect in our society. Because the biological facts are present, men and women are different biologically and also psychologically. Women tend to have certain character traits far more than men (For example agreeableness or empathy.) hence they tend to gravitate towards certain jobs more than men (These are statistical facts, I'm not saying that there aren't exceptions, but I'm talking about about statistical majorities.). There are so many differences and a focus on how genders are not different does not actually resolve anything and I feel it'd be a bigger issue as once you put men and women together and try to paint them with a single brush things will not be working out as well as one might think. For example, James Damore who tried to help google by saying that they should try and implement gender specific incentives and aspects which would appeal to the other gender and to pull in more diverse people, which is what Google wants, but he got labeled a misogynist because he had the gall to say that women and men are different and might require a different approach to incentivize them to work at google. I would recommend checking out "Jordan Peterson". He is an extremely well-spoken guy who is one of the most cited clinical psychologists in Canada currently, and he's extremely clear in terms of the differences between men and women, and about how we have to learn and live with them while also keeping those differences in mind..

[@shakacien]

Yea but I'm full well in her camp. I think each gender has it's edges, that also reinforce prejudices against them with their privileges, and comparing them into a binary choice of which one is the sympathetic one is a baaaad choice. Really both men's and women's groups have many good things they're striving for, more especially if they worked together more often.

[@iogssothoth666]

Shaka Sickels men groups have tried working under feminists. It's not possible. Feminism is the source of many of those problems they strive to fix.

[@alkispapageor]

I can't imagine what would happen if that speech was given by a "man"

[@ideaaddict923]

That's why she is exploiting a hole in the market, like Candace Owens

[@allmight8127]

The fact that man couldn't give this speech means the worlds not ready for it and neither is feminsm not that i though it would be or ever will be

[@linkfromzelda1002]

Nobody would care any more than they care now. In fact he would be praised for being so brave as to make such a speech knowing he'd get so much backlash. A good idea is a good idea, doesn't matter what's between the inventor's legs.

[@BabyGirl-uw5uz]

Exactly

[@josieparker4710]

I feel like feminists forget that men can face sexism too. The word sexism isn’t gendered but feminism is. 🤔

[@thinkelel]

I am so sorry that some comments just show how they're missing the point of this talk. It's the language.. the terms.. the labels.. that drive you to feel, to act, to react and so on.. Equalism is just her proposal.. and it's okay to disagree..

[@monikan.arundhati7146]

Yessss

[@wayaw9015]

thinkelel Thank you! I am truly shocked by the comments. But then again, it is KZbin.

[@allmight8127]

Love is word but its actions that prove i mean it ...... unless feminism or mra can truly fight for eqaul rights the word eqaulism will be just that a word and worse it'll have more power then either because it truly is supposed to encompass all

[@amberraining9546]

Yeah and it’s super fine to agree as well

[@kadaouiasmae6274]

"The moment we change the language, we change the movement." She said it all, perfect !

[@PanglossDr]

Yes, that is Newspeak. Read 1984.

[@nichtsicher422]

Isn't it the other way round? We change the language, because the change has already happend in the minds of the people?

[@dalehawkins555]

Betsy Cairo you have just put into words all the thoughts I have been struggling with lately. Women's right + Men's rights = Equal rights. Why is it so hard for people to understand that you can strive for both at the same time they are not mutually exclusive the constant infighting between the groups is just slowing down the process. If people can begin to understand that rather then dividing the world needs to stand together to fix all of our problems. If we continue to only see one side of the argument as important we all just prove how bigoted and sexist we truly are.

[@paultoth6391]

You are absolutely right. This is the real crux of the matter. Feminism needs MRAs to balance it out, and if feminists truly believe in gender equality, then they should be supporters of MRAs, and vice versa. Less fighting between the genders, more listening to women's AND men's issues! And watch The Red Pill movie - a movie with heart, and a message of peace and understanding at its core.

[@jorgeluiscastro3246]

Totally right everyone. One of the arguments I always used against the word 'feminism' is that sexism oppresses and defines men too. So why to call him 'feminism'? Men have the right to be vulnerable and to do whatever it is suitable to their personalities (if they do respect others, of course, and that applies to everyone, women, men, others). So the word actually was partly shifting the standard roles of sexism, instead of just unblocking equality.

[@benoitgranger2773]

Totally agree we must fight for the rights of both gender. To the question "why is it so hard for people to understand" : simply because in the long time women suffered a zillion time more of gender discrimination than men. But men discrimination does exist, of course. Just indeed, it is hard to hear for women. But totally aligned it must be heard and understood.

[@EvelynL.1112]

Yeah, we shouldn't be focusing on only one gender. We should focus on both.

[@CR-sl8bh]

Totally don't agree. We are nowhere near 'equal'. There is so much left to do.

[@elijahwoodonascooter9349]

I feel the question of Equality vs Equity needs to be asked.

[@keilasalmeron8731]

Yess

[@skywa7183]

Wow one sensible person exists

[@ladyintheradiator]

I'm a feminist but I thought this lady had some wonderful points! It disgusts me to see what some feminists do these days and how misunderstood the movement can be

[@Mechamjr88]

Maddy Reagan most feminists of today are sick with their feminism. It's not relevant nor productive in the West. Just like men's rights activists.... though they have more relevant or accurate points. It's still one sided and no need for it.

[@exgeeinteractive]

SJWs these days pander to victimhood which is actually the thing that women's rights movements are fighting against. EMPOWER NOT IMPOSE.

[@uzairakram899]

perhaps the misunderstanding stems from the language itself.

[@JaysonT1]

@@exgeeinteractive Seriously?!

[@exgeeinteractive]

​@@JaysonT1What exactly are you trying to say? lelz

[@ukuleila691]

I'm not a feminist. Even though I'm female. I don't think that girls should be given more rights. I think that EVERYONE should be given EQUAL rights. No matter if they are male, female, or anything else. We should stop going on about women's rights because equal rights is more important.

[@Peem_pom]

Uhm that's feminism

[@hbrhh2932]

hope you get over your internalised misogyny and self hate soon

[@herrnunft9551]

Exactly!

[@JeshleeCyril]

equal pay! duh!

[@seanfman6128]

@@Peem_pom if that's feminism then there is no more need for feminism

[@ideaaddict923]

PhD holder says key to changing gender imbalance is to remove the language describing it. This is the equivalent of "All lives matter"

[@breadgarlichouse2265]

what is a tree? what is a woman? What is a man? Language matters, and so do definitions. Can we just call whatever we want as we feel without it having consequences?

[@collectiondevelopment4046]

Feminism isn't saying women are different, it's responding to the fact women are treated differently, unfairly. That's what it's responding too.

[@arielsmith5157]

Exactly thank you

[@tris2141]

Good, it's not for equality, and it's full of hatred.

[@ioim1985]

finally , i have been saying this for years, at last someone bring it forward, no male chauvinism or feminism but equality. thank you. finally someone with common sense.

[@orlando098]

The problem is that left wing people tend to claim that to fight for rights as a group your group must be systemically/institutionally oppressed and they have decided that women fit that since they historically had fewer rights than men, but you can't just fight for "equality" because then you're fighting for "non oppresssed" categories too... But I think in reality individuals' experiences of oppression and difficulty or privilege and opportunity are complex and multifactorial. And at the end of the day focussing on certain so called oppressed groups like women or "people of colour" perpetuates old divides and over simplifies things. It also perpetuates a sense of victimhood on one side and of being under attack on the other. So I agree, just care about people in general and call out injustice wherever you see it, but don't just divide everyone into simplistic oppressed/privileged groups.

[@urvashikpopstan1183]

Well said

[@maheraahmed4210]

Yes. Feminism affects woman too. it made me depressed for years. being told I'm underpriveledged all my life and I'm going to suffer all my life because I'm a woman and theres nothing can do about it made me depressed and hate myself.

[@N0p3er5]

This

[@godnyx117]

Oh, how I wish all the "victims" (not just gender-wise) could see that! Victimhood is the worst thing one can do to themselves!

[@atithipatel1243]

I’ve been trying to explain this thought to everyone but I just couldn’t find the right words and she did it wonderfully

[@hagenlens1403]

Wow. This crowd is very easily impressed.

[@onionpotato3396]

Of course they are, it's a TED talk.

[@C226i]

"Egalitarianism" is an already established term that means exactly what is intended by "equalism", why the need to create a new term for a concept that already exists? That being said, good talk.

[@aquament]

Power, or lack of research. I don't know the woman so its hard to tell.

[@shenronded]

Random thought: Equalist was a term used in the Legend of Korra animated series.

[@C226i]

Grexios that... IS a pretty random thought, hahah. Just as advertised :)

[@joannamarierogue]

While I agree that it's already and established term, egalitarianism is a mouthful. I like equalism because it rolls off the tongue more easily, I feel.

[@ScarzChosenspokesmen]

Simple, this is capitalism. She makes money off of things like this

[@jasonowens3816]

This is the "I don't see color" race argument applied to the sexes.

[@saigeskinner6535]

frfr ignoring history. ignorance is bliss isnt it

[@michaelboulware1240]

Say it louder for the people in the back

[@mohankrishna8948]

“Men and women are two wings of a bird, and it is not possible for a bird to fly on only one wing” ~ Swami Vivekananda

[@danpatterson8009]

The muddling of contemporary vocabulary, using words or inventing words to mean whatever you want them to mean, is being used to conceal hypocrisy and intolerance. The word this woman speaks of has been used to seek privilege, rationalize prejudice, and demonize dissent.

[@aotommy6504]

For those who are confused, she’s not bashing the movement she’s bashing the marketing

[@Hammerhead137]

Better marketing just makes it that much more insidious.

[@njrom2975]

@@Hammerhead137nah

[@Rose-xm4og]

Nope, I'm not a feminist neither an equalist. I am me.

[@Bobavakian42069]

hellotychelle This is how I hope more young girls start to think. Keep thinking for yourself kid.

[@BenjaminEsposti]

hellotychelle No matter if you're ugly or cute, mean or nice, you just gained like a bunch of attractiveness points! :D

[@xarastewartmusic]

What does that even mean?

[@jp9707]

You know, holding political beliefs doesn't rule out the possibility of having a personality... in fact, having opinions about things is one of the main indicators of a personality. Are you saying that the only way for people to 'be themselves' is to have absolutely no opinions one way or another? I might have misunderstood your comment. Are you saying that people with good personalities don't have an opinion on social inequality!? What's the link that you're trying to draw between personality and political beliefs? Genuine question, not being sarcastic.

[@mitsukake05]

congrats

[@mrrohitjadhav470]

If feminism is about equality, it would be called EQUALITY.

[@edanya]

Its about the oppression women have suffered due to pathetic males.

[@coolzen3337]

@@edanya And youre a pathetic woman

[@MarkHidden]

I am always concerned when people give words to much power. So though I don't like the term feminist I would not judge you to harshly for using the word, if you think it helps describe you, because I not a big fan of word authoritarians either.

[@bouhvrack3357]

Mark Hidden Word are ideas, words form thoughts. that's literaly a metaphysique question

[@PanglossDr]

Feminism has a simple, well known definition: men and women are equal. She is trying to change that. It must not be allowed.

[@shannonbrown1382]

panglossDr: It is not common knowledge anymore that feminism seeks equality, it's literally in the name FEMINISM. Men have no platform in feminism and most of what I am discovering about the current movement is that it seeks a life over men. Finally someone who suggest that we seek a life WITH each other not separated on one side or the other.

[@amyyhongg]

The idea of women being better than men isn't feminism, it's misandry

[@benoitgranger2773]

Right, but we can actually study the real impact of word usage in the society. And studying it, people found it is big. Of course, any linguistic specialist knows language is a social phenomenon, can't be controlled with authority. Betsy Cairo just propose to use more correct words. to everyone to understand the mechanism she describes and the need to indeed, control what we say. Because to fight for any cause, the alternative to words is mostly violence, I would definitely take good care of words :)

[@MrPoppshot]

Something to note about equality.. if you have a football team and everyone thinks they are a quarterback, the team wont get anywhere. If they accept their positions and recognize their differences, then they can work off of each other to move forward.

[@temychrismusings9501]

👌👌👌

[@saigeskinner6535]

lol football is the worst example you can give. the quarterback definitely gets way more playtime and a higher paying contract than anyone else on the team. a team doesn't mean equality

[@roshanmaharana]

This is one of the underrated talks I've ever heard. This talk should deserve at least 10M views.

[@johng7410]

This is brilliant! I've always used the word egalitarian myself. I also find it interesting how we've had "mansplaing" and "manspreading" added to people's vocabulary at the same time that feminism and sexual preference equality has been striving forward. For what it's worth, I believe in equality of all (sex, sexual preference, race) - but it's often that creates arguments when defending "non traditional victims" for lack of a better phrase. That's not to detract from "traditional victims". Many groups (male or female, cis or LGBTI etc) face issues or discrimination. The sooner language changes to be inclusive, not exclusive, then I think it'll be easier to tackle the underlying issues.

[@thenarrator1984]

lol brilliant? no. this is just stupid and its still feminism under a new guise, no thanks.

[@gowrikolal7170]

Alex Davila why?? I don't understand. John Grayson offers a perfectly fine explanation as to why it's important. the whole concept behind egalitarianism is simple and harms absolutely no one. you can't argue with it (which is also why out of the 3 replies before me on this comment, none actually be argued against it or even simply explained why it does not suit them)

[@gowrikolal7170]

Alex Davila​ this has nothing to do with talent, all humans are equal by fundamental worth and social status. That's it. That's all it's about. The first example about police and army, whether ur female, male, none, both, you still need to work hard. That applies to everyone regardless of gender. Just cuz men do hold the record for being physically stronger doesn't mean we deny people the opportunity to prove their worth in this field The next one, obesity has absolutely nothing to do with gender. In this example, you talk about just fat ‘women' like it doesn't apply to you guys either? And just because someone isn't as physically attractive as the model you saw on the cover page of vogue doesn't mean they can't think, feel and express the same way you, or the model does so why discriminate? No one's asking you to date a fat person, but if you genuinely enjoy their company, why not? Why deny people of opportunities just because they don't fit into ur distorted idea of perfect? Sure, everyone has preferences but that doesn't mean you refuse to even talk to someone who doesn't fit in that preference

[@gowrikolal7170]

Alex Davila hmm, I'm sorry I don't come from an English speaking country but isn't that what people say when they can't prove their point?

[@johng7410]

Alex Davila Take what you said about police requiring strength. if it's egalitarian, then the view would be "you must pass this physical strength test to become a police officer". A non-egalitarian example would be "if female, pass this 'female' police officer test, if male, pass this male police officer test". Recently in Australia there was a graduating class of firefighters that was roughly 25% females. This was after a huge advertising push to get more females to sign up. Importantly, the test is universal, they didn't pass a "female" test, they passed the "firefighter" test. This is the key of egalitarianism. treat everyone equally. Don't move goalposts for specific groups. It's important because having different rules creates an "us and them" mindset, be it race gender religion etc. If everyone is treated equally (without discrimination), then it's objectively fair.

[@johnparr347yrsand2]

Newspeak! none of us are equal! this is bollocks! Equality of Opertunity is good but to fight for equality of outcome is stupid! I am not equal to Usain Bolt at running, he is far better than me and we should celebrate our differences not try to equalise everything like it "aught to be".

[@Ewereruth]

David Laird thank you

[@namikane2605]

Yes. She is not saying that we are all the same in our abilities and trades. She say people should be equal in opportunity and rights. Why would you be against that?

[@tinkeringtim7999]

Fairness. Or, at a push, egalitarian.

[@spike17181]

so your point is that women should stop fighting to have equal rights as men cause they are simply not equal to them and therefore cant call themselves that? lmaoo evey time there is a topic of feminism i wonder what have women done to men to hate us this much, lol you;re a teriible person and your mama didnt raise you right

[@TheBgoz]

misashhh ...I think he's just pro 'equality' & anti 'equity'

[@gibson7392]

Very interesting, I agree with basically everything this white, female professor said. jk, equalism sounds weird now, but I think it could catch on, and the language does have a huge impact I think people don't consciously realize. Saying i'm an equalist sounds legit and would make me feel better than saying feminist, simply because all of the complications it can bring to a conversation.

[@abuda2852]

White female professor???

[@diptanshudebnath2446]

The best justification of 'why the word which refers to equality for both male and female is feminism!!'..

[@cayrenbarcay7286]

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m beautiful. I’m having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me “Apache” and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can’t accept me you’re a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

[@katethegreat4918]

Meeshka Petite Don't use Christ as a way to show your annoyance. He's a person, show respect. Also, if you want something original, I identify as a tree.

[@katethegreat4918]

IS. He is a person. He always has been a person, and always will be. Stop trying to shove your antireligous beliefs down my throat. (I'm not religious either, by the way, I'm Christian)

[@katethegreat4918]

Meeshka Petite What does STFU stand for? By the way, to assume that someone is brain dead because they have different beliefs than you is not a very open-minded attitude or very tolerant. I don't know if those things are important to you, but if you hold other people to that standard, you should live it out. That's called integrity. By the way, if the comment about the tree offended you, I really am sorry. I'm just trying to make a point. If a human thinks that they're a tree, they need help to recognize the truth. You don't plant them in the ground and water them, you send them to get counseling.

[@katethegreat4918]

Why thank you.

[@hunterwilliams7742]

+Kathleen Light Lol is an imaginary friend

[@roykliffen9674]

being included in a community does not mean the society adapting to each individuals wishes, but the individual adapting to the society he/she wants to belong to.

[@MR-nl8xr]

Ooow, well said.

[@aquament]

I think I heard something like that in a hip hop song once. The philosophy of equality or something like that, by immortal technique.

[@kinaadman7584]

But society is made of group of individuals. And if those group of individuals wants to be "included" then society needs to adapt to these changes too.

[@zOiNhUh]

i disagree with her on the "gender-neutral" language, because it doesn't apply so easily to other languages such as spanish or portuguese

[@regina_m3358]

No matter how you talk, but it's important, what you do.

[@tiberiuemanuelmelinte6727]

As a man, I respect and adore this woman! Equality and love, that's all we need 🙂

[@Aysu_-]

sureee as a man you will respect women who are not feminists

[@Doncergio]

Short summery: progressive talks for 9 minutes about how they created a word for egalitarianism, not realizing the egalitarianism already exists

[@fenris8wolf604]

she is using and creating a word that people don't have to look up on Google to begin to understand

[@cmbbfan78]

Changing language is always a priority of all tyrannies...

[@abilashmaverick4494]

I AGREE TO HER POINTS. This is one of the best speech i have ever had about this topic. and she have arranged all the perfect words together of what i was straggling to explain..

[@hetaes]

As a woman, I detest the word feminism. It doesn't solve problems, it creates problems. It's time to move forward. I like her idea, equalism.

[@GracefulDanny]

My issue is the name. "Feminism" inherently, puts women above men. Let's just call it equality.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

She has noble ideals, but what she is referring to is humanism. Original Feminism must still prevail to look after the interests of women. I would like to see a Ted talk on the influence of MRA on the push for humanism.

[@adrianasalam7627]

she's only talking about the part of the world that she lives in, when you have countries that girls sold, raped and forced wed with no law to protect them then you need feminism for people to focus on this type of inequality

[@Lucywald2012]

adriana salam ARE there feminist that talk about other countries? No

[@Idk-x4c]

juliana silva all i see from feminist is waHHHH im oppressed forget those women who are being stoned my male friend who works harder then me earns more then me

[@adrianasalam7627]

+cyber beetle because I live in Iraq so I'm the one who has the right to talk about feminist here, here girls do fight back but they're put in jail because the laws will never have their back.

[@adrianasalam7627]

+Lucy Wald yes there's and again because I live in middle east so I can speak in behalf of it, here you have powerful women that made huge movements. you can look for a women called Dr nawal Al saadawi and then let me know if you think

[@adrianasalam7627]

+Cackling Muse well in middle east the one's who are making these crimes don't even get put in jail because the laws are made for the benefit of the male only, so we do need to talk about it to change these rules.

[@davidphillips1845]

The problem with Feminism, as with many well intended movements, is that it takes an issue that is really about a functioning whole (Healthy dynamics for men and women to interact together in society) and focuses on just a part (the empowerment of women) If there is an abusive husband, having a more powerful wife doesn't fully address the underlying dysfunction (although hopefully she can get to safety) The man's dysfunction has to be dealt with because the family marriage only works well when both parties are having their needs met and working together. I've noticed this with activist of all sorts. They take a systemic issue involving multiple people groups and only want to advocate for a particular group (which may have legitimate concerns) without considering the ideal functioning of the whole. Activists' passion for a single group or issue frequently results in a loss of perspective of the best interest of the whole.

[@regina_m3358]

You have no idea how I glad to see your comment. I think the same, a lot of troubles of humanity has only complex decision. It's very sad, that each group of activisties isolate themselves from solidarity. Man and woman are not different, we have one human nature.

[@davidphillips1845]

@@regina_m3358 Thank you for your response Regina. If enough of us advocate for common sense and compassion we can make a difference!

[@jean-pascalheynemand3271]

Marriage was never simply about two people loving each other. The roots of the word Matrimony lay in the celebration of Motherhood: Middle English, from Anglo-French matrimoignie, from Latin matrimonium, from matr-, mater mother, matron. If the nature of a union is sterile it is not truly « Marriage » it is a legal union.

[@OldVet67]

If a woman wants to be a plumber, electrician, welder, mechanic, construction worker, skyscraper window cleaner, etc. I'll show them the same respect as I show men. IF on the other hand they just want to be treated equal but have special treatment like lower standards...then we're not equal are we? An independent woman can pay for her own meal on a first date, an independent woman doesn't need men to open doors, walk them to the door, pay for them at public places, or defend them in times of trouble. THAT is equality. Women talk chivalry, but they don't want chivalry. They want the right to cherry pick what they want and don't want. Men aren't going for that anymore.

[@Workingclassheros]

This is very much a perfect world idea. It sounds like the line "I don't see color" when taking about race. It isn't helpful at all to ignore the differences we have. We can be inclusive AND different individuals. Feminism is to put the spotlight on the disadvantages various women have faced and still struggle with today. If you were born female and later no longer identify as one, you still have experiences being one and perhaps struggled with issues many women have faced. It's not a polarizing word, men, anyone can be feminists by supporting equality and assisting in issues women face. It stands up for men's right to be feminine as well. To see childcare or nursing jobs for anyone, not sterotypically for women. It also isn't an excuse to hate men or feel more important than anyone else. It doesn't come with a rule book either. You can be a plummer, stripper, or scientist. The point is you CAN be different. You can look however you like. Get a facelift, or embrace your grey hair without judgement. We are amazingly different and sharing our differences opens gateways to knowledge and wisdom. The "middle ground" or whatever, is that we're all humans. "equalism" is broad, dissociative word. It doesn't do the struggle for women's rights the justice it deserves and doesn't give it the voice it needs. I find it similar to the "All Lives Matter" statement. It takes away the spotlight the disadvantaged need. Perhaps make a new word for gender non subscribers. Celebrate eachothers individuality and listen to what struggles someone different faces. Recognize them without discarding a whole historic movement towards equality, a movement that paved the way for other non binary or transsexual people to be more acknowledged as well.

[@cordeliabowers9636]

exactly my thoughts, we have not ‘grown out of feminism’ when millions of women around the world still face inequality. how are we supposed to move forward and not acknowledge any of the issues

[@blhootz]

This is exactly what I was thinking, too. Thanks for expressing it so thoroughly and so well.

[@Workingclassheros]

@@blhootz I’m glad someone actually read what I said-and appreciated it on top of that! Thanks for your response and positive feedback, it means a lot to me. :)

[@sellenhenderson]

This is the gender loaded equivalent of "All Live Matter".. its ignoring years and years of oppression and discrimination and once again centering the privileged population. Yes feminism is about equality, but we didn't all start from the same place of advantage and that needs to be taken into consideration.

[@chaithanyapeethambaran]

She is way too ahead of time ..,may be after 100 years or so we can say word feminism is outdated but not now because she don't know the struggles a 'common woman ' around the world faces

[@taylorrenwick7888]

some people don't understand: this woman isn't saying that feminism is bad, she is saying that there shouldn't have to be an identifier for everyone to have the same rights, just like the people who don't identify as male/female shouldn't have to prove why they feel what they do. just saying.

[@mpa8336]

One day, feminism will be treated the same way we now treat racism, and for the same reasons. -Karen Straughn

[@jacobkayadoe7851]

Embrace masculinity and feminine. We complement each other, not to be rule the other.

[@hm-kt4se]

i identify as a napkin

[@Saraa968]

hayz I identify myself as a french frie by the family of potatoes

[@dubol07]

hayz please wipe my nose 👃

[@blahajenjoyer208]

I identify as the one and only Mike Wazowski

[@man8god]

Attack helicopter here

[@AM-we8hj]

@@blahajenjoyer208 Nice identification, I'm jealous. Can I be a Mike Wazowski too?

[@RiceDaddy07]

I like how calm she is. I'm so tired of fake outrage.

[@charyanngutierrez790]

I am currently studying the grounds of feminism. I am fascinated by this word and it led me to different conversations, talks, and discussions. But this talk is remarkable, her convictions and principles are amazing. I'll definitely search for more of her talks

[@kittendivine1]

I have a suggestion: Gender Rights Activism (GRA) or gender equalism. The name should have some denotation of gender in it. Because otherwise you could be talking about equality based on ethnicity, age etc. and that's not what she means.

[@emiliax1174]

I feel like equity is needed, not equality, give people what they need. I had an interview at university for a games development course and the interviewer said I have a higher chance of being employed even if I'm less qualified because of feminism. This isn't right. I've also been told I'm less likely to get a job if a person from an ethnic minority applies even if I am more qualified because of "equality". This isn't equality, it's businesses trying to look diverse and PC.

[@otherpill7008]

Emily B I don't know but that's the very definition of inequality. In equality, since everyone is equal, merit should stand out and no special treatment should be delievered to anyone: man, woman, other races, etc.... since there would be nothing called a 'minority group problems'. All will be given equal rights, isn't it?

[@neodarlek]

This is a viewpoint I've held for a long time, and frankly I've never been able to express it very well. Dr Cairo has expressed it perfectly.

[@jam3406]

And what about the significant amount of violence against women in this world? Are we just going to pretend like men and and women are equal in that context? I understand her point but it sits quite superficially

[@gnoelalexmay]

This is a terrible concept on every level it touches. How to destroy a culture/society: 1. Pick a value system 2. Mention a handful of negative aspects of it, ignoring all else. 3. Propose it be demolished. 4. Claim that anyone who objects is doing so because they're IN FAVOUR of negative aspects (from pt 2.). 4. Have corporate media blast message 24/7. 5. Find next value system...

[@SulCoCrazy]

I lost her at "safe space." If you're looking for a speech about truth, move on to something else.

[@magnificentkane]

Maybe you threw the baby out with the bath water

[@mazsroy9]

Yes, many are missing the subtle error in her ideology.

[@joeycrow]

Legally forcing people to change their language has historically been bad by every calculation.....

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Refer to Jordan Peterson

[@GabrielSilva-hv6ml]

Really nice! Too bad there are so many people here that didn't watch the video until the end and started attacking her without good arguments.

[@liviacomar5252]

Perfect!! Equality is all!! Love one another ever

[@MrLuke255]

Equalist? There already is a very similar word - egalitarianism (or equalitarianism).

[@uadhlagash7280]

Feeling excluded is also important. It creates conflict, and conflict creates growth

[@taurtue]

What's your point? There will be people who will feel excluded no matter what, it shouldn't be promoted

[@uadhlagash7280]

@@taurtue "What's your point? There will be people who will feel excluded no matter what, it shouldn't be promoted" I think my point was rather obvious in my original post. Feeling excluded drives growth of character. In fact, any kind of atrocity drives the growth of character. I never said anything about promotion. However, if my kid falls on some rock and gets a bruise, I let him. It is better to be bruised than to become a flower so sheltered and delicate that air will wither it.

[@nokname8379]

The word that will replace Feminism it is MGTOW.

[@favourkelechi8947]

Like your comment

[@mgtowindia9549]

You are right son

[@giveaway8800]

@@mgtowindia9549 damn 😂

[@beartrapperkc]

We should look for similarity but not pretend there are no differences. Differences are good.

[@sb-lx2dt]

Don’t listen to her!! She’s probably one of Amon’s lackeys!!! . . . . . . . . . _(For those of you who aren’t total geeks and didn’t understand, here’s the explanation for the joke, which is an Avatar: the Legend of Korra reference: the Equalists were a terrorist faction in this show, led by a masked man named Amon who wanted elemental bending to be eradicated, so that no one could have access to elemental powers)_ But yeah, really good talk. I always did find it weird and ironic that a group of people literally called “feminists” were against gendered language, when you couldn’t get any more gendered than that.

[@visualelement7youtubechann941]

She's right that word feminism creates a greater division then gender

[@a.romero4110]

The world needs more people like Betsy Cairo

[@nrudy]

I'd add "patriarchy" to the list of not useful terms

[@aquament]

I'd second that.

[@PanglossDr]

most societies are matriarchial

[@MzBroadway17]

Sad

[@elisabeth4912]

@@PanglossDr Could you elaborate on that?

[@sanjanar6218]

@@PanglossDr As far as I know, only 6 societies are matriarchal.

[@sarahd1706]

Please don't fight to take away my right or make it offensive for me to say I'm a woman, I like girly things, & I'm attracted to masculine men. We might as well all walk around wearing brown sacks with shaved heads and all think & say & do the same things so that no one gets "left behind." It's a very disturbing thought. The reason society works & the reason we love people is because they're unique & special, different than everyone else.

[@kc8ncr]

Betsy did a great job of explaining a very noble goal. I don't think Feminism is about equality as with many other group causes. I think that most of the group causes are about focusing on times founding individuals were wronged, and make no mistake, many individuals have been slighted, taken advantage of and abused. Once there is a group which recognizes and identifies with the founding individual's victimization, the focus becomes on making everyone else pay. I am all for inclusion and equality but I am really tired of the endless parade of historic injustices which some how make it right to require repayment by people who were never involved in the injustice. Confront it where it exists and get over it. Group causes don't really seem to be seeking fairness but rather unmerited advantage, and making other pay. The world is not now nor will it likely ever be fair.

[@gumbilicious1]

I have disagreements about certain agendas some feminists have(as I have disagreements about any ideology), but I am very much against “banning” words and controlling people’s language. If you don’t like something then I prefer to speak out against it, not “ban” it, this usually makes martyrs and pariahs and ends up having the opposite effect you want

[@donna.g7442]

Equality of opportunity is good, individual choice is good, equality of outcome is bad/unfair

[@nabaasapenny1310]

This is like saying since we are all people let's forget that race exists

[@HighAltitudeMMA]

Interesting...

[@jordanchristman144]

Well race is a social construct so it doesn’t exist if we all stayed in africa

[@tris2141]

Weak strawman

[@discussingwithyouisfutile1703]

Race is an American thing

[@Sven-tu3de]

"I didn't understand feminism, but I do now... Even though I don't." Yes, noting similarities is important... but realizing that are differences are just as valid and important to do. Our differences in pay wages, to our differences in our health. They are both just as valid and important to take note of as how we are humans and thus need to eat. God, this woman is why feminism is given a terrible connotation.

[@kroozader]

If we are asking a whole culture to reevaluate and change their use of the language (IE gendered pronouns) we should be willing to reevaluate our use of the word feminism. It's just a word, and the insistence to use it is starting to sound like a temper tantrum.

[@edanya]

Says an incel 😂

[@scorpionking3000]

I disagree mostly. Why do you have to include everyone? Such a bad idea. Let’s stay all different, let’s start respecting that we are different and do constructive criticism.

[@Georgealex77]

The women in the comment section have given me a little more hope in humanity.

[@Captainrose69]

You give me a little more hope in humanity! :D

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

How do you feel about MRA? And their effect on humanity you speak of?

[@larks...3297]

Sadly she doesn't know what feminism is nor what a marriage is. I go with Chimamanda adichie slogan "we should all be feminists"

[@saigeskinner6535]

sadly so many blind pick me women have turned down this road. voting for me someone who says "grab them by the p****y" some of yall make me embarrassed to be a woman fr. they ignore and push back on the progress that woman fought centuries for.

[@FableMythLore]

I find potential in this perspective, it has some hardships ahead but promising if done well and maintained equality.

[@pine5088]

The logical approach to this argument is really good. Many people try to use statistics which can easily be 'bend' to suit any viewpoints which good logic backing it. This is refreshing.

[@formerwimp7588]

There is no women I have yet seen that I agree with more than her.

[@greengod48]

Take a look at Cassie Jaye and Karen Straughn

[@BoneCrushGaming]

"Equalist"? Really? Sorry to burst your bubble in thinking you invented something new, but there is already a word for that. It's egalitarian.

[@classydays43]

Funny thing to see someone I agree with for once in my life.

[@Alejandrawilde]

She has a good point. A wrong use of word without an explanation of the meaning, is really hurting every message from feminism