Why I am OBSESSSSSSSED with Dr K

[@naculdacar576]

There is alot to unpack here, can i just think for a second?

[@s.kurosawa8958]

I see what you did there 👀

[@em.lane.p]

You should make a video of how you got out of a cycle of self-destructive behavior and transitioned into a successful well-adjusted adult. Would be interested to hear the story and I think it could help a lot of people!

[@RWGlobalist]

I think he just joined the coast guard. joining the military will usually set you straight

[@thepleasantpuffin]

Dan did a life story stream back in the day, but it's been scrubbed from the Internet.

[@will-iy9gu]

@@thepleasantpuffin nooooo...mr saltmans gotta do it again.

[@dansaltman]

@@thepleasantpuffin its on patreon! www.patreon.com/posts/ultra-rare-pepe-103267239

[@mikemikel1629]

@@dansaltman I can finnaly figure out who you are!

[@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk]

Bring Dr. K on Anything Else

[@govind.m86]

The first fistfight on air will be goated.

[@CAndromeda4536]

I appreciate the new lecture Mr. Saltman

[@SoggyPieceOfToast]

It's Dr. Saltman for you young man

[@aguspuig6615]

I love seeing Dan on Anything else, but i get tired of all teh hate comments he gets, its nice to hear him actually speak his mind instead of being yelled into a chest puffing argument any time he has a take on anything. Even if i also love the screaming matches with Destiny

[@thoughtricity4296]

I think Dan is really great in calls with other people, like in the recent call with Pisco about the supreme court justice, as well as bringing out the content for that PC builder with the "assistants" back like a year ago. Anything else is the only content from Destiny that I don't like because I feel like the "banter" is really annoying and sort of unnatural, e.g. I think Destiny's appearance with Dick Masterson on no jumper worked really well, but not on anything else. The conversation gets weirdly tripped up with the constant "gotchas" between Destiny and Dan.

[@notbdour]

He's sometimes mildly annoying in the same way that Destiny is sometimes mildly annoying. That's kind of the point, I don't get the hate comments either. Super cringe, the podcast would be kinda lame without Dan.

[@LethologicaGaming]

You are aware Dan is 50% of AE, it was his idea and the arguments are what he wants right?

[@squirtinernie8449]

Don’t worry too much. The complainers aren’t the brightest and the only outlet they have is to leave stupid comments. They’re a very small minority of his audience. AE is by far the most successful podcast he’s done.

[@tysonvids4742]

Hearing Dan without Steven interrupting him makes me feel uncomfortable. Great video

[@ryanimateon]

dan inturupts himself when steven is around, destiny's presence makes him second guess EVERYTHING.

[@WarIsOver25]

That octopus wall is utterly fucking SICK🐙

[@Arbfor]

Dr. Alok Kanojia sends his regards.

[@thelilcanadiankid]

Dr. Alon Kanojian

[@ohead]

Gotta say that these are refreshing videos, good quality, good takes. Even though I might not be the target for some of them, it still feels like you are giving something good here, and it feels genuine.

[@clayboi118]

There are lots of meme comments on all of your videos so far. But I, and I think many others, actually appreciate your insight on the topics you talk about. Thanks Dan.

[@collette6531]

Idk if you realize this, or if its the same for others, but listening to you talk about things is very good for some reason. I hope you keep making these little videos.

[@riteshyeddu]

I agree

[@collette6531]

@@riteshyeddu I think we have dad issues bruh

[@imaginaryfanboy]

I'd do therapy with Dr. Dan and make it parasocial 🤠

[@JFW243]

Thank you very much for this video. It added a lot of important context, and it made me rethink my stance on this. As someone who has benefitted from a lot of the content of Dr. K since he started streaming on twitch a long time ago, I am feeling a bit defensive due to the good he has done. HOWEVER: I think you are making great points to the 1on1 Shows on Twitch and while many of them helped me by seeing similar spects in the shows participants and having Dr. K help them, he helped my by proxy. I agree that Dr. K should stop doing them, to protect those who come on the show, even if they have and are helping me and others like me. I think Your context with the experimental programs in your past contextualizes why the new online therapy of Dr. K might be problamatic, but I think that the core idea is good, it just needs to be executed correctly and with the neccesary polish and safety. If he can build a coaching program with only qualified and capable coaches that help the customers while ensuring privacy and other essential aspects are ensured while providing it for a very accessible price for people who wont have the funds for conventional therapy, I think that is a good thing. Also his online course seems to be decent from what I have seen, but I think that the other things are more important. All in all, I am thankful for this video, and I hope to see more fruitful discussions coming from this. Some Moments where you have talked about Dr. K snarkly stem from the format of the discussion (anything else), maybe I missed some more normal discussions, so I would not worry if people misunderstood you. Here you made yourself clear and even changed my mind on some things. Keep up the great work.

[@traviscogswell1930]

Thanks for sharing, Dan. I've lived in Utah/Idaho and am very familiar with the services you're speaking of. Mental health care is a very difficult topic in this country, no matter how hard we seem to try to change that perception. I agree that it's not necessarily a good thing to do out in the open - If Dr. K maybe had like a "I've been talking to a client that is experiencing these sorts of situations, and they've felt x,y,z about it," that would be a different topic. But full on therapy sessions for content? Feels icky on my end.

[@EtanonLOL]

If you watch any of the lectures it's very clear it isn't "full-on" therapy. Therapy involves trying to fix an issue and is usually paired with clinical evaluations and sometimes medications. Dr. K simply just has people talk about things they are dealing with, and pokes and prods with some questions or a different perspective to help them become aware of and get a better understanding of what is actually going on.

[@wisemage0]

@@EtanonLOL If it was "very clear" he wouldn't need disclaimers and people wouldn't be calling him their therapist.

[@EtanonLOL]

@@wisemage0 The misunderstanding comes from people either engaging with Dr. K's content or having conversations with him that just are misinformed. When I say it's very clear, I mean objectively what Dr. K does is meaningfully different than therapy, however to a layman they are not aware of what actual therapy and is, so it's helpful on his part to make that distinction clear. The exception to this of course is Reckful, which was categorically wrong for a variety of reasons, but overstepping a boundary in one instance is a separate argument from what category is this thing that Dr. K is doing as the general structure of his channel.

[@large_mango]

​@@EtanonLOL It is definitely not clear that it isn't full blown therapy. Have you been in therapy? Have you seen Dr K's interviews? They appear exactly the same. Poking and prodding with questions about someone's life like Dr K does is exactly how therapy goes.

[@treycotter]

This video changed my life Daniel

[@helburr]

Decoding The Gurus are releasing their 3rd and final instalment in the Dr. K decoding which is like 4.5 hours. Safe to say the rabbithole is rather deep

[@beaujones5124]

I actually think you're probably right Dan. When i first started therapy I was an open book and too trusting. It took a while of therapy to realize I should be more private. These sessions in front of thousands is probably unethical because it affects vulnerable people that dont know what theyre signing up for

[@notbdour]

now this will be a good one edit: Dan, the troubled teen industry still exists, unfortunately. Still very active in Utah. I'm sorry. They are usually branded as "wilderness therapy" for teens, and they're super terrible a lot of the time. Sometimes the really bad ones get shut down, but tons of them still exist to this day.

[@xhyatusx]

Respect to you, sir. Thank you very much for opening yourself up to us.

[@battlehotdog]

Thanks for the perspective, Dan. Keep em coming!

[@Entertainment11777]

I used to watch Dr.K alot, I stopped at one point for no particular reason, probably the main reason was that I actually wanted to do self improvement instead of just binge watching videos about it. I think you can still pull alot of good stuff out of his work, alot of his adivce even overlaps with the tips Dan gives in these videos, but I also have to say that his community seems to have turned in recent years and has becomes absolutely bonkers, in a way it definetly wasn't before.

[@Draigon18]

Ok but what's the community have to do with anything? Just curious cuz u brought that up as if it supported something

[@Entertainment11777]

​@@Draigon18 Not really anything, just something I noticed, and I was kinda surprised by how quickly it took such a huge turn. I don’t think it’s Dr. K’s fault, or that it says something bad about him as a person if that’s what you mean

[@Draigon18]

@@Entertainment11777 oh ok I wasn't sure. Not super familiar with his community personally. But I really find communities to be interesting. What changed about it? I have a hard time even picturing what a mental health focused community would be like.

[@wren4077]

his community is extremely toxic yea. In the worst ways. They do the lefty passive aggressive smugness thing. I remember when destiny was on his show his fans kept going "I called it" "parental abuse I called it" that is so disgusting lol

[@wren4077]

@@Draigon18 see my comment above. think of all the memes about women weaponizing therapy speak. His community does that. And the way they turn onto critics of Dr K. is also not the most healthy either. Decoding the Gurus have made several videos on K now, and the comments will always have dr k fans leaving paragraphs of comments (of course without engaging with the criques) parasocial relationships when the main personality is some sort of therapy alternate medicine guru might be the worst kind of cocktail. speaking of which I also recommend Decoding the Gurus videos on Dr K. They talk about more than just the stuff that Dan takes issue with. They also talk about how Dr K positions himself as a rational guy who pushes alternate medicine but is really not all that different.

[@benjamin3658]

Hey Dan whats that nice plant you got there? Also where did you get the vase and the stand for it because it looks really nice

[@Tocinos]

4:45 Bro I experienced something very similar. I was experiencing delusions of people being after me, went to the ER to get checked out, I wasn't suicidal or homicidal or anything, yet they sent me off to a place full of unstable patients including those detoxing from heroin.

[@daniellastnaim1588]

Me waiting for Dan to say just pull yourself up by your bootstraps 🫣

[@riteshyeddu]

BAAAASED, God I love Dan so much it’s unreal

[@reidhewitt1734]

To me, it's basically the "not financial advice" of psychology.

[@youtubeacc69469]

nah. "not financial advice" implies that they want you to go in an on an investment, and in todays world, to probably use you for short term gain. Where as Dr K explicitly says "this is not therapy, nothing we are doing is like therapy. We are simply having a conversation about mental health". The only way you can think his conversations with individuals is therapy is if youve never gone to therapy. Talking about mental health =/= therapy. The analogy I would say is its like having a casual conversation with Waren Buffet about finances, youre going to listen and probably benefit from that talk but in no way is it financial advice. Thats why Dan is so unbelievably wrong. He watched a clip maybe even watched the final reckful video but the totality of Dr Ks work just isnt therapy and Dan is completely wrong in every assumption he has had. Such as blowing the reprimand out of proportion.

[@franklingoodwin]

BINGO. That's exactly what it is.

[@franklingoodwin]

​​@@youtubeacc69469Weasel language. It was a disclaimer to protect him from being sued should the "not" therapy have adverse effects. He wasn't talking to Reckful as a friend but as a trained psychiatrist. Reckful might have no officially been his patent, but he was in anything but name. The doctor patent relationship was blurred.

[@wisemage0]

💯 It's ok for something to obviously be therapy, and it's ok for something to obviously _not_ be therapy. But it HAS to be obvious; not something that needs to be explained over and over.

[@ramsfreak893]

Not sure if it's a "therapeutic" boarding school. "The Last Stop" on YT is about Elan Boarding School, and it seems these "boarding schools" were just overpriced, crazier juvy.

[@ImKibitz]

Weird watching this after the whole 'make businesses next to the red line' video

[@ImKibitz]

lol commented too early, you mentioned it at the end. Point being it's kind of hypocritical to suggest people make busineses by/over the red line then condemn people who do it

[@johncarmichael1737]

I gotta give credit to Dan because my whole life I’ve had to deal with people who think the middle of nowhere in Massachusetts is like anything past Worcester, which is fucking ridiculous but seeing that this came was west of Springfield, when he referred to it as being in the back woods of Massachusetts it was an apt description and I applaud him for it

[@EtherArch]

I think I get Dans point a lot better in this one video. As opposed to a mid-stream argument.

[@ahlekss6892]

Loving these videos Dan!

[@battlehotdog]

Dan, you should try talking closer into your microphone.

[@wynterac]

DAN You should stream more! You are so adorable! I glad I got to know you through Destiny. Probably one of the few wholesome cast

[@nathansimon7607]

Keep on making these dan, the commentary and the tech/business stuff.

[@wren4077]

I don't know if this is directly maps onto what you said about "not being able to legislate going onto the show" but I took a break from therapy earlier this year. And I started seeing a student counsellor at my uni. She wasn't a therapist but a counsellor. And it did mess with my head a little in trying to draw a distinction between what therapy is and what she provided for me because they were awfully close. At least in the content of things I discussed with her. She never stopped me from bringing anything up but always encouraged I speak toa therapist about certain things because they would be better trained to help me. But yea it took a lot of effort to make notes before I went in and met her and decide on what I should talk about and what I should leave out and save for my therapist (one I still don't have but will in the future) I just mention this example because yea no amount of "this isn't therapy you can opt outwhenever you want to" etc. works.

[@4elove4ishee]

Finally a fucking certified dan the content man banger, liked before watching

[@fernandoarrieta2364]

Not quite the Joker origin story I was hoping for.

[@charohazard]

the video we've all been waiting for

[@JoeBidenMegaFan]

Thank you Dan.

[@agsilverlucas8374]

Great video Dan

[@monkerud2108]

Powerful story, i think the old based greek "first do no harm" says a lot, that people don't take to heart enough, when using credentials to ram your ways into the space of half the creators on youtube. To grow their business.

[@TheNewLooter]

I wonder how would Mr. Grill's crusade against Dr K go if he hadn't lost his sanity

[@monkeybomb1232]

He never had sanity lmao.

[@Entertainment11777]

Max is just too vindictive and obsessed with taking people down, which seems to move him foward alot but also makes him ineffective

[@wisemage0]

He had a pretty good point up until he started emotionally abusing his girlfriend on camera.

[@pickles8004]

Didn't understand your strong feeling toward him, but now it makes sense. ❤

[@nowey2251]

Dan you look wayyyyu Better without a hat ! You’re like the hot girl from the movie who just removes her glasses and instantly looks hot now 😂

[@bizzzzzzle]

I’d love to see you comment on NotSoErudite wanting to open exactly that same type of camp. Same situation, bachelor degree, not a therapist….

[@monkerud2108]

Dont even get me started on his Saturday work, jesus.

[@YoYo-dm3dh]

Would love to see you and Mike David from Redbar talk about your boarding school experiences

[@fwuerve5230]

Although Dr. K provides a lot of self help advice for several people, I think him putting confidential settings into the public eye puts not only himself in danger, but the person he’s “interviewing” as well. Like Dan mentioned, the things people shared could be used against them. These shared moments can range from bad habits to extremely traumatic experiences, which if it were to fall onto bad actors, could be used against them. I think that’s what Dan’s trying to convey in this video. Personally, this is in the same essence of a lot of ‘reality’ television, where someone’s private life is put onto full display. The consequences from those could be translated onto what Dr. K has been doing as well. The difference here though, is that an audience member has more degrees of intimacy with the person Dr. K interviews. I agree with Dan, there should be more of a cautious approach to how Dr. K conducts these interviews.

[@Monzteris]

Hey Dan, like the videos. Especially the one about showing up. Any advice on how to get hired into tech as a junior dev or what people running tech companies are looking for when hiring?

[@coreyander286]

The cultish anger of Dr. K fans whenever someone criticizes Dr. K alone warrants criticism of Dr. K. It's pretty gross. Dr. K gets big streamers to open up to him and cry, and the streamer's fans see their favorite streamer cry, so the fans who trust their streamers then trust Dr. K is an unhealthy, devoted way.

[@tylerfr0mearth]

Content creators should probably watch Dr. K’s content before agreeing to an episode. If the creators don’t like the way it comes out, I’m sure Dr. K would remove the video or simply not upload it. Dr. K’s content is awesome. I would recommend it to anyone

[@mechanicalmarmol2775]

Good response video. I was never as upset as some people apparently were, but I was confused by the stray shots fired at Dr.K. Your perspective makes a lot more sense now and I hope we can all maybe agree to disagree here if anything.

[@liamgamedev2733]

Dan, can you make a video going over your thoughts on Nvidia?

[@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk]

Dan went to the Holes camp, Thank you Mr. Yelnats

[@misterchief242]

I love Dr k but this felt like an adult sitting you down and trying to be compassionate while explaining their own worries. I loved this video

[@misterchief242]

Like simply putting a part of yourself out there and being vulnerable in that way to be able to share that online feels good and will make people more compassionate to your skepticism

[@maherdabbagh94]

Appreciate you making this video, based on what I've seen on stream, I just thought you were being unhinged whenever the topic came up on destiny's stream but it's good to have a full perspective on your views on this topic.

[@jonascelentano9251]

We love you dan ♥️

[@lawrence4301]

You should read elan school - its a comic based on a guy who had a very similar experience to you (its using one of the 'kidnapped at night' schools) Its very popular. He had a similar experience in smoking weed/not being as bad as a lot of the kids that were sent there and also in the very tragic outcome of a lot of the students killing themselves

[@xmcxii]

there is an issue with ur mic where it keeps coming up and down in intensity it's very subtle though not sure what it is

[@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk]

When it comes to real people with thousands of fans feeling vulnerable enough with him to reveal deeply personal issues that could become weak points for haters or something its a bad thing to encourage probably I agree

[@0_morales_0]

They’re full grown adults 💀 I’m sure they know what they’re going to do and have thought about what it entails when you talk to dr.k

[@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk]

@@0_morales_0 Clueless

[@0_morales_0]

@@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk how so

[@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk]

@@0_morales_0 not everyone that goes to a show set up to be like therapy with an audience has the soundest mind, I can think of an example

[@0_morales_0]

@@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk fair

[@Agerian7]

The book Holes is based on Dans experience

[@zunuf]

Where is the kitty palace tour Dan?

[@zelesclate]

Those are good points dan, maybe after a lot of years, research and regulations people can do this without being weird, but this almost always happens right? People create something new or cross some line, and that triggers research and regulations.

[@loedae]

Where is the "Why I am OBSESSSSSSSED with Dan Clancy" video Dan?

[@Spencerburner]

dan. you can't be that far away from an sm-58 and hope boosting your gain is gonna cancel it out. also, good video

[@mikemikel1629]

I'm happy to be able to hear your full opinion without Destiny jamering

[@brodude9208]

You should have explained the comparison between the insane youth camps and the public therapy sessions that Dr. K is doing. I feel like the streamers who willingly choose to participate to Dr. K's show are much more aware of the potential outcomes since they are online professionally. On the other hands, the parents ditching their kids to the desert camps and the people running the camps are much less aware of the risks and the kids are also not going willingly. I agree that Dr. K made a major mistake when he promised Biron that he would see him on the long term. I think this very likely played a part in Biron's death. That being said, I don't think that livestreamed therapy as a concept is exploitative or a net negative. Dr. K's mistake could have happened in a private setting and have the same effect. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@synchronium24]

Well put. Dr. K's promise to Reckful that he'd be friends with him for 2 years was the one thing he got dinged for in his ethics review. I think the "this is not therapy" line probably got dismissed as wink wing, nudge nudge at the very beginning, but otherwise I agree with you that streamers have a much better idea of the ramifications than kids.

[@rando42069]

Aw damn, Dan is married?? I got no shot. Yeah but I'm a Dr. K fan, and when I heard the criticism surrounding what happened to Reckful, I watched the Dr. K & Reckful videos. At some point, I feel like Dr. K should have been able to recognize that this was going too far, especially for someone as vulnerable as Reckful was at that time. Dr. K should have then pulled the plug on the public "non-therapy" sessions and maybe offered to work out some kind of deal with Reckful in private about actual therapy (since Dr. K promised he'd be there for Reckful). I can see this now as someone who has been in a similar vulnerable situation psychologically, who also went through interventions (religion-based though) that were too much for me to handle. And it should have been obvious to others who were in charge of the religion-based interventions that it was too much for me to handle. It feels predatory. There's a definite one-sided power dynamic. And the only way anything changes about people being taken advantage of is when someone dies by their own hand. It shouldn't have to get to that degree

[@NiblaTheCosmic]

I really appreciate these videos Dan 💙. I think your worry towards Dr. K is warranted since he is treading unknown waters.

[@root_beer_guyy]

I have seen you before ... you are in general chat ... what are you doing here?

[@NiblaTheCosmic]

@@root_beer_guyy Yes, im a dgga and i'm active in the dgg discord, this is true.

[@Rob3r96]

11:45, I don't know if it is fair to apply the criminal justice lens, I would say that it is more closer to surgery, you would never say, that if 1 out of 100 complicated brain surgeries was a failure, the surgeon should stop their professional activity. The patient is also informed of the risks and they don't have many options, Reckful was very similar in this regard, I can't say 100%, but it was 90% chance that he would have done it anyways, and most likely, Dr K had delayed it for a bit.

[@IIlIIlIIIIlIII]

What are your thoughts on Jewish mysticism dan

[@monkerud2108]

I was the Machiavellian master mind of pushing mr. Girl to go there, and i never slept better. When Lincoln dispensed with habius corpus i was there, when judas got that sweet sweet russian money i was standing next to him. When i was in kindergarten i beat up 5 friends at once like i was made out of pure alex jones supplements. Anyway, i remember the arc, the complaint and i might have been an agitator of sorts, for good reasons though, i think he abused rektful. Thats my professional opinion.

[@luke2806]

nice audio Mr. techmaster

[@Chumchou]

Dr. K actually doesnt do those lives with people anymore unless it's to talk about a specific topic like he did with destiny and medication

[@Gie93uck294bx]

i didnt know he does 1on1s with "normal" poeple and only watched his talks with other e-celebs which where fun to me. doing stuff like this to mentaly unstable people is a hole different case tho. btw can you do a roomtour? your place looks really cool!

[@wowee21]

im gripping rn

[@CodyNeiman]

Crazy seeing the NYT article on this after the years and variety of discussions in DGG.

[@wren4077]

they hurt themselves by including mr girl in it at all lol

[@deqa]

It sucks that that happened to you, Dan. Now, let's do some trataka. (unironically I think meditation does work compared to talk therapy) 🧘‍♀

[@voxnihl]

New video idea: "When everyone is telling you you're wrong... sometimes you're actually wrong" Sometimes people get stuck in a startup for far too long, and despite mounting evidence they don't know when to pull the plug. It would be cool to hear Dan's experience on this.

[@bullkounty7109]

I had the same experience with a program like that it was hell 15 months

[@CoCaptainJack]

I'm curious, I know destiny has had a lot of success with medication, but I'm curious what's your experience. Are you still medicating or are you done with adhd medication?

[@Entertainment11777]

It's interesting, Dan seems to have a similar backstory as Mike from Redbar. Also both are jewish

[@stnkold316]

Dan is Stanley Yelnats?

[@darkfeign]

Your audio is cooked

[@julius333333]

I thought that Dan Saltman was a parody of the name Sam Altman

[@doublestarships646]

Successful people always have houses ornplaces that look like sets for a show.

[@rewsky]

Always enjoy hearing your perspective - especially with a more serious tone.

[@bb_poison]

isnt this a perception thing that is unavoidable when dealing with groups of people? You hop on stream with the same topic twice or more, whether in favor or against it, you become that topic guy. Its unwinnable

[@sockrabbtt]

where's the dan minecraft let's play

[@IcarusBath]

God I miss slumlord streams

[@Agerian7]

Regarding your question about Dr. K doing life coaching. He cant go back and do "life coaching" now as i think it would be unethical. He likely swore an oath or agreed to the ethical standards to become a licensed therapist. He will be always held to a higher standard due to that and should be, otherwise he would put psychiatry into disrepute to the public.

[@orcanimal]

Nice orange cat in the background, Dan

[@melltaur]

I want Dan to become a 1mil sub youtuber next year

[@jeremywarren5083]

Wtf this guy is awesome! Have you considered going on Destiny's new show Bridges?

[@okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk]

Nice setup dan

[@IlyaGusev-p3i]

Dr k in many ways reminds me of Jordan peterson, no single thing he does is that bad, but there's a lot of potential harm in having credentials and using them to push random shit, even worse when you make a career off of it

[@analogsentimentalism]

That's why he's the goat

[@clazzimodo1932]

Dan, there's only one way to settle your grievances with Dr.K and I know you're aware of it, get him on AE.

[@GeorgeStarvas]

i was not expecting that

[@chadamongmen5223]

Dr. K lives in this same weird space as Wim Hof for me, where he's got some interesting and valuable things to say but you also kind of need to be not stupid enough to discern the bullshit from the value which is a problem when most people are fucking idiots