Why I Chose the KLX250 Over Other 250's | Comparison Review

Each bike does their own thing the best. It then all boils down to personal preference on what you want out of the bike.
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[@gothops154]

Instant upvote for telling us how much you paid for the bike. So many times you tubers say the sticker price but not the actual discount/price they paid. So annoying when that happens

[@mr.terwilliger5728]

gothops154 they avoid that because of their sponsorships

[@nathancarter5034]

I paid $1,750 with 15k miles and they really jacked it up with bad maintenance but it was salvageable just runs a little chunky.

[@Shadow-js2yn]

@@nathancarter5034 yeah they probably thought the bike was crap but really they didnt know how to properly take care of the bike or they just didnt care their lost your gain

[@gunsnguitars101]

Same reasons I got mine plus the low maintenance. I had a CRF250X mainly for trails and back roads but spent a small fortune in maintenance. Very happy with my KLX.

[@itisfinished4U]

Keep em coming brother, us noob klx250 riders appreciate it. If I figure out the faster speed issue I think it will be the perfect little 250 considering I only paid $4000 for it with less than 800 miles on it!

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Thanks for watching! That's a great deal! 250's are a great all around bike that are loads of fun!

[@DN4AGDX]

I love my 2018 KLX 250. Its perfect for trail riding and lite over night trips. Plus I got a great price from the dealer.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I agree! It gets me almost anywhere within a 70 mile radius comfortably! Also, great profile picture, coming from a Sun Devil myself

[@austinhayes8429]

Just bought a 250s, beautiful bike rides so smooth on and off

[@SMMBHQ-cg2zy]

your a decent young man and it was a pleasure to watch your review.

[@baronvonwarner]

awesome video... i just bought a 2010 and took it for a 150 mile run here in southern oregon .... Douglas county ... fun bike

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Right on! Sounds like a blast! It's awesome to have people in Oregon that see my videos

[@SupernaturalBeingsofEarth]

Nice , thanks for good ride n info...

[@jhmotorclub6916]

No problem!

[@bigfootingermany]

Well I was seriously considering either the Honda or Yamaho, but you just sold me on the KLX. I live in lower altitudes but live right next to the Sierras. Fuel injection is very important to me. While I'm not looking for something to go tear up the trails like a crazy person, having issues from extreme altitude changes and air temps is something I would prefer not to have to seal with anymore. So thanks for the tips! Kawasaki it is! Bob in Reno (now)

[@jhmotorclub6916]

The KLX will definitely be a great bike for that! Pretty awesome that I was able to help in your decision!

[@kennethmcdonald9970]

You went right by my house, I love seeing you ride around here

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Woah! That's awesome! Maybe I'll see you around sometime

[@tiffanyjustice8602]

I love my KLX250s so much. We just bought the 2019 wr250r for my husband and it’s also a great bike. It’s a little jumpy in low gear but it has to do with the fuel injection. I don’t mind buying some aftermarket parts for both bikes. I love my new foot pegs! I just got a skid plate but am getting ready to get customized springs for my KLX.?

[@astonmartin4360]

Thanks for your infornation.👍

[@jhmotorclub6916]

No problem!

[@physix22]

I just bought a 2018 Klx250 camo edition today! Hyped! Got plenty of trails near me too. Im not new to the trails, but im new to on road motorcycle riding. Have to get my license once this whole covid thing blows over. The bike is a little tall for me so hopefully it can be lowered a bit. Ik i can handle the bike tho! My buddy is getting the crf250l and we gonna ride! Stay safe!

[@claypayton3509]

I saw those bikes when my family took me to get a klx 230r for trails I was 14 at that time and they look agressive with the camo

[@austinhayes8429]

Josh Dufour dude you are literally explaining me, just baught a klx, I’m used to trails not street so I’m getting my lisence after covod, seat was tall but now I’m used to it, I could lower it but I haven’t yet, and my buddy just baught a crf250l lol

[@physix22]

@@austinhayes8429 ahha! Yeah I bought lowering links and had a rough start with the bike most likely due to water in the tank and I had to take the tank right off and drain it. It's running better now and have been using heet in it. So far so good I guess! My buddy is new at riding and he dumped his a couple of times, nothing serious at all. So it was pretty funny. I ride my bike fine and my height is actually good for the bike it's just that I weigh nothing so I don't sag the bike down at all. 😂😂

[@streetrider11]

I've got a camo 2018 KLX250 too, amazing little bike I love mine so much

[@richardburdyn9369]

I bought a kl250 super Sherpa 2010. Carb, 6 speed. I have not been off road, only street. Great in town, errands. Keep my Harley for road trips, 2016 road king, 60,000 miles. Love them both

[@pdbordelon]

I just got my 2021 KLX 300...amazing bike!

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Congratulations! I am hearing it is a job well done by Kawasaki!

[@zachfrigo]

@jhmotorclub do you have the link to where you got your mirrors?

[@Flyin_high_pnw]

Great vid, thanks! I'm looking at a klx250 at the moment and I'm in Oregon also (Central OR) I was curious how the bike does on hills/inclines on the highway. Much thanks.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Just saw this. Thanks for supporting! I bet there are some awesome off road trails down there! The bike handles hills well. With the big bore I don't even have to downshift. With the bike uncorked, I could just downshift if I needed to pass someone. On the highway, it will cruise in stock form up to 65 MPH pretty comfortably. At that speed you still have some power to pass and the wind isn't too bad

[@glacialmobbs7657]

I’m up in bc and I changed ny front sprocket went from 14 tooth to a 13 for a little more bottom end

[@jermdawg2805]

You still liking this bike? I’m in Oregon as well I wanna be able to hit logging roads and trails but also take to work

[@gregorymasincup7540]

Hey JR I'm looking for my first motorcycle in a very long time now and I was wondering did you get a chance to test ride your bike when you first purchase it?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I could have. However, I knew it was what I wanted.

[@JohnnyBoy919]

Congrats on the bike. I bought a used 2015 wr250r since new is pretty expensive. I'm considering trading to the crf250l since it's got a lower seat height. I'm only 5'7" 130ish and I drop the wr250r quite a bit on technical trails. I feel like I could ride the crf250l more aggressively.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

A lower seat height and center of gravity is definitely confidence inspiring. The CRF might have some more low end for those technical trails too

[@RidersInBlack]

The CRF250L has a seat height of just over 34 in. The WR is insane at over 37 in. The problem with the CRF, is the rear suspension is extremely soft and rebound is poor on more technical trails. You'll have to install a rear suspension upgrade to stiffen it a bit and it would solve the problem

[@thcguruv2568]

Almost pulled the trigger on a new KLX 250. I found a 4th hand KLR 250 from 1993 for a really good price. As I am just learning to ride glad I didn't go with a new KLX 250 as I put the KLR down 3 times, broke ribs on the 2nd fall and broke ribs on the other side of my body on the 3rd fall. Once I master the KLR I will move up to a new KLX. I think both the the KLR & KLX are bulletproof bikes though, built like tanks.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Dang, tough break, but glad to hear you are keeping a positive outlook! I think the KLR is a great bike to start with. It doesn't really feel good to throw down a $7K motorcycle, but it will happen.

[@mmz77]

If it was used I think the prices may be comparable so brand really doesn’t matter much to me. I am happy with my KLX it does everything well. Wouldn’t be opposed to other brands if price was similar used.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I agree with the whole used dilemma. When I got my Ninja, I really would have settled for any brand 600. However, some people are more brand loyal. Shopping on the used market though is more about getting the best deal, in my opinion

[@eljuano28]

Of course I have an opinion about everything, so, ... Nothing wrong with any of them. There really aren't any really terrible dual-sports out now days. Ignoring the very expensive, (to buy and also to maintain,) Euro-bikes and the bigger Jap-bikes, the 250 niche market is not going away any time soon and maybe that's because it's not so simple to break down the purpose of the niche. My general thoughts are they can all do mostly the same things, but they target so many different missions that each have advantages and disadvantages depending on the needs of the rider. I think the WR is perfect for the more dirt-ripping rider. The CRF is the mini-adventurer of the group, (especially the Rally.) The XT is the bike that is still going to work after Armageddon and gets anywhere slowly, but gets anywhere. Finally, the KLX is the best battle-bike, meaning it's the best at doing it all, even if it's not the best at any one thing in particular. (I'm pretty biased in favor of it exactly because it's a jack of all trades.) The DRZ is the closest Suzuki gets to a 250, I guess, and it's a good bike, but even with the mods that you've done so far, realistically, there isn't a lot the DRZ can do that the KLX can't and there's still a lot more potential. Actually, that's kind of the greatest advantage of the 250 dp class; you get the one that best suits what you need, then you tailor it to improve or specialize as you go. That little bit of added weight on the CRF and the street origins of it's motor make it awfully comfortable as a longer distance road bike when at least half that road is dirt, but it can be made into an even better, more comfortable and competent road & dirt adventure bike with simple, inexpensive mods all the way up to mounting fairings, hard-bags, major suspension changes and even a 305 kit for the motor. It's all up to money and desire. The WR is so close to a pure dirtbike with plates that it's not a big stretch to dial it in and make it just that. I wouldn't want to spend much time on the road, and carrying more than a short weekend's worth of camping gear might become more a hassle than it's worth, plus that defeats the advantages of the bike more focused on tearing it up. The XT, ... dude, I seriously might need to put one in a discreet bugout stash in case the tinfoil hat wearing, SHTF, WWROL prepper types end up being right. What a little tank, and you really only need a bash plate and some handguards: but I couldn't live with it in the real world of 70+ mph traffic and wanting to go tear it up once in awhile. It's just not that bike for me. The KLX is all compromise, but it's been around forever and the aftermarket let's you make it a great little ripper, a completely capable adventurer, an amazing hunting/camping bike or just leave it alone(-ish) and run into town for groceries. It's got it all and can compete in every mission, ...but it's not the CRF for over the road, it's not the WR for gettin' it, and it's not the XT for role-playing as a mountain goat. It's just the one that will be right there with each of the others no matter what the mission. Y'know?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

You hit a lot of great points, that I didn't cover or didn't know/think about; so thank you for that! Like you said, they all kind of do the same thing, but each one has their own niche. It all boils down to personal preference and whatever someone likes, is what they will get. Thanks for watching and sharing your opinion! We'll all be prepared to take on the apocalypse on our dual sports!

[@cocoloco65482]

Well Said!!

[@rickmanley767]

Yes, that’s right. The Honda Rally was my choice as a bike that will street the best and still be better than say, a 300 Versus / BMW 310 gs on the trail

[@JoseppeM]

what year is your bike such that it has FI? I can't find the crossover year figure for it anywhere.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

It became available in the US in 2018.

[@michaelklinge1857]

they are all solid options there's a bunch of 2018 crf250 l rallys left overs around for $ 4200 non abs the dealers don't tell you about set up , destination charge and tax I would like to see an out the door price no surprises some even want to charge a doc fee when I see that I'm gone There's a lot of used bikes with little or no mileage my 2015 klr had 800 miles I paid half what a new one costs and no fees that was 3 yrs ago thanks for the vid very informative be safe

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Thanks! Sometimes used works out a lot better for people. Ride safe as well 🤘

[@slimpickering1699]

I think the drivetrains of the CRF and KLX should get more attention in comparisons. I still don't have a feel for the difference. What are the redlines? Are they top end or bottom end?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I spoke of this in the video. The KLX has good mid range. The CRF is known for bottom end torque. The WR is known for its top end pull.

[@jeffferguson899]

I ended up with the crf. mostly because I really like Honda and I trust the reliability. I like the klx as well but felt the styling was a little antiquated. They are both great bikes though. The klx does have the lower weight and better suspension . I would relly like to see a 350 version of the crf or klx

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I would have to agree! Maybe one day Honda or Kawasaki will make one for us

[@xt225]

Can you get the Fantic Casa in the US? I love my klx250s but would seriously consider the Casa (both FI).

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I haven't heard of them actually. I tried to locate a dealer near me, but they all seem overseas. I am not sure what the cost would be to import one or if it would even be possible

[@xt225]

@@jhmotorclub6916 What about the GasGas?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@xt225 I believe we can get those here, but they aren't as common

[@baronvonwarner]

mine has a some modifications . its a 2010 so its got a carb .... pipe, carb kit 3 gallon tank . among other stuff . it has 3700 miles on it .. i love it

[@baronvonwarner]

I paid 2500 .... It has at least 1200 in aftermarket stuff bolted onto it ..it was a girls bike that her ex hubby built for her . had to mess with the carb a bit because it came from K falls and had been stored for 6 plus years .... got her back running and she is the green machine kawasaki intended her to be

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Good deal! That sounds like a sweet setup! I definitely want a larger tank on mine. It is a great green machine!

[@travelinben1966]

Nice bike.Did you consider the Versys X300 with the parallel twin?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Appreciate it, I did actually. It definitely would have had the power. However, I wanted something more dirt oriented. Even though, I ride a lot of street. I think the Versys would be great for a custom scrambler type build

[@travelinben1966]

JH Motor Club Yes,very doable I’m sure.I saw a video of two guys riding the northern California coast up to Monterey.One was on a WR250R, the other on a Versys X300.I can tell you,the Versys was very impressive off road, and even surprised the guy riding it.Check it out when you get a chance.

[@TheKidCannibal]

top speed.... the klx destroys the other 250's top speeds. i can hit 150kmph flat (odo is 5 off so 145), averageof 135-140km/h no problem and i only have aftermarket exhaust and jetting (kmf competition). got my 2009 for 3200 canadian with only 7k on it. up to 18.5k now.

[@2Timone7]

Haha. That's I always do 'round-a-bouts as well.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

😂 It's something that has to be done

[@2Timone7]

JH Motor Club Absolutely! 👍🏼

[@terryturk6813]

Where did you get your mirrors..ive got the same bike as you ..when I look online it shows the pic of yours but in the description it says bar end mirrors..please help me...

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I got them from Amazon. They are called Kawell bar end mirrors. However, you can mount them by clamping them onto the handlebars. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/Kawell-Motorcycle-Davidsons-Kawasaki-Cruisers/dp/B002GTKAHQ/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=kawell+bar+end+mirrors&qid=1598073302&sr=8-2

[@terryturk6813]

@@jhmotorclub6916 thanks

[@terryturk6813]

@@jhmotorclub6916 thanks

[@2002ZRX1200R]

My crf feels more planted, but my klx is definitely noticeably lighter. The torque band's are just as you described, the crf will tractor at idle, my klx prefers 2k+ rpm.

[@1975JJD]

What shop did you buy your bike at?...I work in Beaverton.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

If you are looking to buy, I would go see Matt McKay at Motosport Hillsboro. I got all but one bike from him.

[@austinrawlins9099]

I like the KLX, but I already have a paid for 2018 WR. Would there be any benefit to going to the KLX or would it be better to stick with the WR? The reason why I went with the WR at the time was for the highway speed, but now I'm fixing to try camping and traveling with it.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

If you already have the WR already, I would stick with it. I wouldn't see a reason to upgrade from one to another if you already have one. The WR should do pretty well on the highway with its top end power. It also has a great suspension from the factory. Both platforms have a great aftermarket and can achieve the same power levels with the mods available for them.

[@MikeHF]

Very important tid bit of information is maintainance intervals! The WR has valve adjustment intervals every 26,000 mile and oil changes at 3000 miles! Beat that!

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Good point, I don't mind doing either of those though. Even with the KLX intervals, I have checked my valves at about every 1,000 miles and done oil changes every 500 or after hard off road rides.

[@davidg.8745]

Did you look at the XT250? If so, what knocked it out? I’m looking at the 2020 KLX250 and XT250. For now, the XT250 is in the led. Still need to test ride both bikes

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I did. I feel like the XT250 is in a different class of dual sport. In my opinion, it is in the class of the DR200S. Those bikes have less power than the KLX, WR, CRF, etc. meaning a top speed of only around 75ish. It weighs the same too. It may feel lighter because it is lower however. It is still air cooled and has less suspension travel. I'm sure it is great off road, but for any type of highway or prolonged street use, it may feel overwhelming unless you are in the city doing slower speeds. Test ride them and see what you think. If you are dead set on the XT, go for it. However, those are the main things why I didn't choose it. I'm loving the KLX with the 351 now!

[@liquid-ionbenis6815]

You selling the 250?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@liquid-ionbenis6815 I have no plans to sell my KLX

[@grumpysquid]

KLX: 6 gears, more modern design and instruments, little more power, better brakes. But heavier than the XT by 13 lbs and $1000 more. Seat height on KLX May also be a deal breaker for some. 35 versus 31.9 on the XT

[@motoadventuredual-sport3671]

If you are a grown person a XT feel so little with your legs bent up kind of like a clown riding and tricycle 😂😂 not sure a off road bike should have that low of a seat height you should be standing up most of the time anyways

[@factwolf2039]

How long is that bike from the front of the front wheel to the back?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

The wheelbase is about 56 inches and the overall length is about 87 inches

[@peterlindvall7671]

Found someone with an interesting setup: KLX W/331cc running Kawasaki 650 injector. Since the 650 is a parallel twin, it works out perfect for a 331, and a good candidate for the 351. 2Bros full carbon exhaust Kustom Kraft 331 big bore kit Beet oversize injector Beet race cams Head port & polished Power Commander V piggy back ECU Power Commander AutoTune unit Barret Clutch plates Pivot Peggs Hand Gaurds Decal Kit He says it tunes it automatically!

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@peterlindvall7671 That is an interesting setup. So, are they running the 650 injector or the Beet injector? The list you posted says both. The only thing on this is that the Power Commander V is not available for the US. The ones that are for sale say they are for 2010 "Euro" bikes. They might be compatible with newer models, but it is hard to tell without actually having one. This is an interesting setup for sure.

[@peterlindvall7671]

@@jhmotorclub6916 Either one... It'll be closer to 351cc in usable range, lower duty cycle, since its spec'd right for 292cc's. Who makes a 2 cyl fuel injected 700-750? That would be ideal... Also, you can unleash hp by upgrading the cdi. They were getting crank 28hp out of a 250cc with all the mods.

[@peterlindvall7671]

@@jhmotorclub6916 2010 Euro bikes are fuel injected, and it should plug n play. What part no. did you come up with?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@peterlindvall7671 I'd have to look again and see if I can find it. It seems that it was on an overseas website. The ignition timing would definitely help out a lot as well

[@grumpysquid]

How much does it cost to replace the auto cam chain tensioner, as some owners have reported issues with it?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I believe the manual ones run around $60 US. People always seem to report issues with the automatic tensioners being too tight. My experience with the manual ones is they ended up causing premature wear to the cam chain. That's just my experience. I have the automatic one on both my KLX and FZ-09. They are both working fine.

[@grumpysquid]

JH Motor Club is the factory tensioner auto or manual?

[@houseatreides6683]

Does the klx 250 sit up as high as the wr250? Asking because I'm a tall guy 6 foot 2 so I need a bike that sits up high.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

At first, mine did not sit up as high. Then, I set the correct sag/preload for the rear suspension and it sits much higher. I'm about 5'10"/5'11" and I barely touch the balls of my feet now. I used to almost be able to flat foot it. If I remember correctly, when I rode the WR, it felt like my knees where higher than on the KLX.

[@marknorth1221]

The seat height is fairly tall, I'm 5,10" And if I were any shorter I might have issues, 6,2" you will be fine

[@Pipes61874]

What do you pay for insurance on these bikes just wondering looking at getting a secondary bike

[@jhmotorclub6916]

It's about 40-60 dollars a month depending on the coverages on the bike. So, it's not too bad

[@trailblazeratv6306]

It’s less than $400 per year for $300k policy

[@keithjahn6031]

Why don’t you have mirrors ? I agree the klx is a great choice. I have a Drz , my daughter’s has a klx , I love the lightness and flat power band of the klx .

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I have them mounted under my bars, the camera angle in this video makes it hard to see them. The KLX is even more fun with a big bore now!

[@usernamemykel]

I know the great craftsmanship from Kawasaki - I've a 2018 Kawasaki Ninja 400 KRT edition ABS, and I absolutely LOVE the bike , looks and performance. I'm toying with the idea of the KLX (after all, one needs to spend the stimulus check on SOMETHING, no?) - but I'm having a bit of a time justifying it, as there are no trails/dirt roads near where I reside. So what would I gain? Please advise if there is something I'm missing... Kawasaki Kid (Yeah, right, "Kid" at age 75. - go figure)

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Static money does no good lol! While there are some gravel roads and stuff around me, most of my riding within half an hour is street riding. The Ninja 400 sounds really fun. It's like pushing a slow car, fast. It is the same concept with the KLX. The benefit to the KLX in my opinion is the ability to not limit yourself to the roads. If you see a curb, you can run into it and hop over it. You can rip some berms on dirt/grass patches on the side of the roads. The bike is real agile and is just a hooligan machine. The bike is a little more upright than the Ninja too, which is a little easier on the shoulders and arms.

[@usernamemykel]

@@jhmotorclub6916 "Upright" sounds good to me - I get palm pain on most rides., and I don't tuck.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@usernamemykel There is virtually no resting weight on the palms when riding the KLX. So, it would be a good fit

[@usernamemykel]

@@jhmotorclub6916 A "plus"! Yippee!

[@garetc7706]

How do you know that the klx responds better to mods than the wr? Also I've never seen a Ktm/husky under 10k.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

The WR starts off at 24 WHP. Uncorked they're right around 27 WHP. The KLX starts out with a measly 18 WHP. Uncorked the KLX produces around 25 WHP, possibly more with the cam mod. 3 WHP gain vs. 7 WHP gain. I'm not going to get into an argument over numbers because the rider is more important than what a sheet of paper says. I guess the dealers around you don't have good enough deals on them because my local dealer has the 350's for less than 10K.

[@garetc7706]

JH Motor Club Thanks for the quick reply and the info. :)

[@plainoldme7322]

are those mirrors approved in all states? when other vids come out, link them please

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I can't see why they aren't legal. I'm sure it's the same case like a fender eliminator kit. For Oregon, the bike just needs to have one mirror. Here is the link to them: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GTKAHQ/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=revzoot-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B002GTKAHQ&linkId=c9280dce4ec36462e168951a9fe41580

[@AlexDeLaBright]

@@jhmotorclub6916 That link took me to a light bar. Could you fix it?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@AlexDeLaBright I recently noticed that. It seems that the link is broken now. I have tried to search them by name to no avail.

[@chukpic]

I think KLX nailed the 250 "dilemma". I would definitely buy if they were available is South Africa, but they're not

[@jhmotorclub6916]

They did! At the end of the day, it's hard not to have fun on one. Kawasaki needs to send some down there ASAP!

[@davidwitmer7251]

I loved the review but had to nitpick a few things. A new KTM/Husky 250 is NOT even close to 7k. You're looking at 9-11k before taxes for a street-legal example. Considering the deal and price you got on the KLX, it was definitely the superior choice as to what you're looking for. MSRP between the KLX and WRR isn't far fetched as the WRR definitely is more off-road worthy with better suspension, more power, etc. (but yes, by the time I have mine set up the way I want it....I could buy a new KTM...) however many don't realize that the WRR is popular for its maintenance intervals and reliability unlike *cough cough* the KTM/Husky twins.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

When I was looking for my KLX, my dealer had both the KTM/Husqvarna 250s for $7,299. So, I guess they were steals then. Maybe that's why I got a good deal on my KLX too. You nailed it on the maintenance idea. It just seems like the KTMs/Huskys need more attention in that area.

[@bultacowally]

wish I could climb on all these awesome 250's but I guess I am destined to get a TW 200 or a Van Van 200

[@jhmotorclub6916]

The CRF and KLX both have a pretty low center of gravity. Even though I can almost flat foot the KLX, most of the time I just stand on one leg at a light or stop. They also make lowering links for them as well

[@fts4life]

Take a look at the Yamaha XT250.

[@bigglyguy8429]

The KTM/Husky bikes are fantastic but so are the servicing and price of parts. They're road-legal race bikes that need servicing by the hour rather than mileage. Totally impractical for guys like me that will only ride now and then and with no desire to race. The CRF is good but the KLX suspension is more adjustable and feels more planted. It's a real dual-sport, whereas the Honda always feels like a road bike with knobblies on it.

[@TheDeerhunter42]

Looking to buy one. What's the top speed without pushing the bike to its limits.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Well top speed in stock form, depending on your weight, is about 85 MPH. With a couple of mods, you can reach a little over 90 MPH. It can cruise well at 65 and decently at about 70.

[@TheDeerhunter42]

@@jhmotorclub6916 wow, I was told 55 is all it would do. That's definitely got my attention now. To be honest I like the looks of the kawasaki over the Yamaha WR. Is your bike powerful enough? I mean is there that big of a difference between power to make me pay more for the Yamaha, that's what I need to figure out. Thanks man.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@TheDeerhunter42 Yea, I've heard that. It all depends on the rider and your gear to be honest. A good helmet and ear plugs for longer highway stints helps a lot. At this point, I have to come realize is that it all boils down to the rider in terms of performance for the 250s. A couple of my friends have uncorked WR's and I kept up fine with them with my uncorked KLX. The numbers say one thing, but when on the bike, you really just notice where the power comes on the bikes. I think the KLX is a better deal price wise. Sometimes, the Yamahas demand a premium. I have some highway tests on my channel so you can see how the bike does on the highway.

[@spacepotato5524]

Would you say this bike is comfortable for tall people? I’m 6’0”.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I would say so. Geared up, I'm around 5'11". Before I adjusted the preload, I could get half of my foot down on each side. After I adjusted the preload, I am on the balls of my feet. So, it should be just about perfect for you.

[@spacepotato5524]

JH Motor Club Nice! Thanks!

[@dirkdiggler7390]

The klx 230 has abs but not this model!?!? Crf250l abs is what I'm leaning towards

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Nope, the KLX250 does not have it. It came out before the KLX230. However, I wouldn't mind switchable ABS!

[@protectork9831]

I want the klx300sm hope I can get a deal

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I'm sure they will be out there! Just need to look hard enough; it will be a sweet bike!

[@monchismacias8769]

I am 5 ft 9 220 pounds and have never ridden a dirt bike I've had mini bikes as a kid, but other than that I have minimal riding experience I live out in the country out 10 miles from my job site and am looking for something to have fun on and occasionally commute to work on would you reccomend this bike? And advice helps thank you

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I weigh about the same. The KLX is definitely friendly to newer riders. It doesn't feel like it wants to rip you off the bike in stock form. In your area, you should be fine for cruising speeds as well.

[@monchismacias8769]

@@jhmotorclub6916 Awesome thanks for the advice I'm kind of leaning towards a supermoto but I am still in the process of trying to decide on what bike I want to start on

[@monchismacias8769]

@@jhmotorclub6916 Fan update! I ended up purchasing a 2009 klx250sf and I love it I'm glad I decided on this bike

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@monchismacias8769 Sweet! Congrats on the new KLX!

[@Cityhallfreak]

Why does my 2018 KLX250 want to stall? I bought it brand new. Fluids changed on time. No modifications. It just wants to stall at idol. It's starting to upset me. Help me, please.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Mine did the same thing when it was stock. The bike runs lean from the factory, like many other bikes to help meet emissions. Once I got the EJK and other mods, it stopped wanting to die out and stall.

[@gsdmom9187]

Mine did that to, I just turned up the idle adjustment

[@martycech5844]

Anthony C. Villio ...rejet the carburetor. Quick KLX250 Forum search will get you the info you need. Easy Peasy

[@wantlesssquid6886]

So really it’s simple, you want the Honda your just going to have to take a bunch of crap off of it

[@ronsexton3685]

There is the sale price but when i checked on the out the door price, it was much more. Is this normal? Last i bought a motorcycle was many years ago and the price was the price plus tax. Now it seems there is freight and setup and such which add about $2,000 to the price. Is this normal? Other fees: Dealer freight about $500 Dealer setup about $500 Documentation and prep fee: about $600 Sales tax: about $510 Really? Is this normal these days? It has been a LONG time since i bought a motorcycle. Like 35 years.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

My dealer usually only tacks on about 500 dollars in fees. We do not have tax in Oregon. 2,000 dollars seems awfully steep

[@ronsexton3685]

@@jhmotorclub6916 Thanks. Was looking at a Camo KLX 250 2020 and they had $1,100 off. I was thinking good deal! And then i got the out the door price and saw all those fees. Maybe they are normal now, i don't know. But when the price went up about $2,200 from the sale price it was a bit of a shock!

[@CombatsportCo.]

Where do you have your camera

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I have it mounted on the chin of my helmet

[@jordisalavert1912]

can you do wheelies?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

The KLX250 can easily do wheelies. I've had my friends wheelie the KLX. I myself am still learning

[@austinhayes8429]

What exhaust do you have?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

In this video, I had a full FMF system with the Megabomb header and FMF Q4 Hex. Now I have a full Barker system

[@nathanbaeyens2856]

@@jhmotorclub6916 why did u switch systems?

[@popalot711rb]

Can u maintain 70 on hway

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Easily! It pulls to 80 MPH quick enough, from 70, to get in and out to pass those hogging the fast lane. Those who are a bit more aggressive may be more difficult to pass.

[@ethanjeffryes3921]

What mirrors do you have

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I used these: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002GTKAHQ/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=revzoot-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B002GTKAHQ&linkId=c9280dce4ec36462e168951a9fe41580

[@roadjokers6467]

How is it holding up ? How manny miles are on it ? Worth the money ?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

It has been great! I think I am around 1,600 miles, maybe a little more. Besides oil changes, the only work I have done is work I wanted to do such as the big bore, exhaust, tuner, etc. For the $4600 in the new market, I don't think I could get anything better. $6500 would be a lot for a new 250 from KTM and Husqvarna. It would have more power, but I am happy with my purchase. I trust the big bore just as much as when it was stock.

[@itsnaj780]

JH Motor Club I’m looking into my first dual bike never had a bike would this be a good first bike ? By the way I’m 5’6 155lbs am I too short ?

[@itsnaj780]

JH Motor Club if the Yamaha was cheaper would u have picked that over the bike that u have?

[@popalot711rb]

What's ya top speed

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I believe it was around 93ish MPH with the mods in this video. It is about 100 MPH now

[@gameofthrones4423]

Does it require high octane...??

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Nope! I run 92 octane

[@srwardo93]

I just want a good dual sport to covert it to supermoto SINCE I don’t like the DRZ400sm and I’m not paying $12k for a 701...... I’m between the KLX250 and the WR250R

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Valid points! Either one can make good power. I would say the WR has an easier subcage to change than the KLX, which is important if you wreck it.

[@srwardo93]

Thanks

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@srwardo93 Of course!

[@brianskate024]

Me too homie. Just got offered a klx250 for 2500 but the wr250r is a beast of a bike.

[@davidcastaneda2913]

Can you us it in California

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I believe it is CARB compliant

[@pinussylvestris]

About the Drz, if you want a dual sport up over 60 HP choose the Ktm 690 enduro r. It has +70hp and weighs like a crf 250 l. I have a crf 250 l and like the low end power,. Its weakest spot was the suspension, but after upgrading the suspension it felt like a totally different bike.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

A 690 would be sweet! That was what I wanted if I could have afforded it at the time. I always hear people say that suspension is one of the biggest upgrades on a 250. I'll have to put it in the works for the KLX

[@AV1776]

What did you do to upgrade the suspension?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@AV1776 I personally have not done the suspension yet. However, when I do, I plan on using for the forks and I'm not sure about the rear shock yet

[@pinussylvestris]

AV1776 Hi, I turned in the forks to be rebuilt (shims + springs) to my Weight and Riding style, and New rear chock (Weight + Riding style). I felt the difference just by sitting on the bike, and when Riding it, it was like a totally different bike 👍

[@kriluck0ps456]

How about the Yamaha XT250?

[@FullHouseOutfitters]

awesome bike, 2020 is the last year of production sadly.

[@bultacowally]

@@FullHouseOutfitters according to Yamaha no its not..

[@RidersInBlack]

The XT, which is known as the Serrow in the Asian market, will be discontinued. The North American Market will still carry on with production of the XT 250

[@grumpysquid]

KLX: 6 gears, more modern design and instruments, little more power, better brakes. But heavier than the XT by 13 lbs and $1000 more. Seat height on KLX May also be a deal breaker for some. 35 versus 31.9 on the XT

[@Shadow-js2yn]

wait no mirrors? is that allowed?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

The bike has mirrors below the handlebars

[@aaroncooke1748]

I’m more of a Yamaha guy but the wr dose not look as good as the klx in my opinion and the klx is a better deal

[@TRAIL325]

my klx has kx 450 fenders and number plate, transforms the bike majorly

[@DoodMangSpeaks]

TRAIL325 can you post some vids or pics somewhere? Interested in how that looks

[@TRAIL325]

www.tacomaworld.com/threads/little-green-monster.418749/here is a link to my build page until I get a video up

[@Korman2u]

Aaron Cooke that headlight it disgusting change that and I’d be more interested

[@gordongoodman8342]

Yammi looks better. Yammi is better.

[@aaronhansen8037]

Height is also a consideration. The DRZ is tall, as is the Yamaha. Also the DRZ sucks with the 5 speed. It needs a 6 speed badly. I’ve owned an ‘09 KLX, and bought a CRF new in 17. Honda is a dog!!! The KLX is a better bike. I also owned a new DRZ IN 16. It needs updated badly. Loved the power though. Kawasaki needs to update the instrument panel. A fuel gauge would have been nice. Just bought the 300. So far I like it best of all the bikes I’ve owned, dual sport wise. No Honda 300 available to compare. Trying to find a bike these days is hard. Hardly any shops have inventory. Prices are sticker, which sucks.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

A fuel gauge would be nice, but most of my routes I know the length of and I feel pretty confident with the range. I was actually surprised by the DRZ. It still feels decently nimble. The 5 speed is geared long for highways, but the motor is not as smooth as the KLX. Apparently the CRF is a brute, but I won't know until I find a 300L to ride. I'm glad you are enjoying the KLX though!

[@aaronhansen8037]

@@jhmotorclub6916 watching your videos helped me decide on one. They are so scarce here (Idaho), I had to go quite a ways out of town to get one. Pretty much bought it without riding it. Thanks for the videos!!

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

I personally think you should go test drive a DR650, just for the heck of it. 40-50 mpg and the price usually sits between the KLX and the WR-R. The DRZ400 is just a DR650 with a smaller engine and water cooling, not super special (my opinion).

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I'll try to do that. Most of the dealers around my area don't seem very keen on test drives, especially when some teen walks in the door. I think the DR650 would make a cool scrambler build! It'd probably offer a good amount of power too

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

@@jhmotorclub6916 a muffler, free airbox mod, and a jet kit should get you upwards of 50hp

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@YourLocalRaccoon I will have to take this into consideration as I search for another future bike build

[@PMitchell106]

SWM RS300R?

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I honestly hadn't heard of them until you mentioned it to me. I'll have to do some research on them!

[@PMitchell106]

@@jhmotorclub6916 They bought all of the facilities and designs that were leftover from Husqvarna after KTM bought the brand and converted all the Husky models to KTM-based. The SWM's are still Italian designed and built, the same as the previous-generation Husqvarnas, but the company is now Chinese investor owned.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@PMitchell106 Oh I see, so they should have a pretty good design behind them, just so long the craftsmanship is there I would imagine they are good bikes

[@buebecutlen8963]

Those bikes are lots of funny

[@dustinfrancis560]

The klx is the best small bore dualsport out there. Plain & simple. Plus the looks are killer. Can honestly say it is the only bike out that i will never get rid of. Does anyone out there know if you can make the new klx300 street legal??

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I have no plans to get rid of mine! I think it all boils down to what state you are in. In Oregon, we do not have much luck plating dirt bikes, but our neighbors in Washington can legally. There is also the South Dakota method... but that's a little risky for someone in Oregon.

[@Shadow-js2yn]

a good thing about a bike is cheap good gas with a car paying for that good gas must suck

[@barking.dog.productions1777]

All of the performance mods that you mention for the DRZ are available for the KLX. My 2006 KLX250 has the Bill Blue 351 big bore kit, pumper carb, FMF muffler, and a programmable ignition module. I doubt that many stock bikes in it's class will keep up. Your KLX sounds anemic in comparison. With all of the mods it takes about 2-3 seconds to red line each gear. Of course, 1st and 2nd gear red line almost immediately.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

You're right, I'm enjoying the 351 big bore now though!

[@barking.dog.productions1777]

@@jhmotorclub6916 I'll try to find the info for where I got the programmable ignition module and post it for you. It comes stock with 2 advance profiles, but you can hook it up to a computer and plot any advance curve that you want, change red line cutoff, and a few other nice ignition tricks. The 2 basic settings are USA total advance with a faster curve, and Australia faster advance with more total advance. (as per stock Aussie bikes) Found it: parayelectro.com/products/CDI/default.html

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@barking.dog.productions1777 Unfortunately, I don't think that it will work for the EFI KLX. It would be great if there could be a module to advance the timing for the EFI bikes, but I have not heard of one.

[@barking.dog.productions1777]

@@jhmotorclub6916 I was trying to find my direct contact info for the company, but no luck so far. If you contact them directly they may be working on a unit for the newer bikes. Often these companies can use some volunteers with the equipment to help them dial in a new product. You can contact them via Ebay messaging and ask, but Ebay tries to block out any exchange of direct email addresses since it cuts them out of the money pie.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

@@barking.dog.productions1777 I'll have to see if I can give them a call. It would be great if they were working on one. I'm sure the bike would benefit greatly from it

[@ardennielsen3761]

the 5 valve yz250f... if power is needed, tuned up it can do 47hp, a 280-310 boar kit and a methanol injector behind the air filter... no reason to get a 450cc.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

A street legal YZ250F would be awesome! They're a little hard to come by in Oregon, though

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

I was leaning to the KLX, but the KLX was more money than the CRS, but the fit and finish was not near the quality of the Honda. The Yamaha was just too expensive for a 250cc bike IMHO. The Honda can drop 30-40lbs simply by taking off the rear tail lite and the exhaust. While the KLX does have adjstible suspension over the CRS, but from my experience (40+ years), it's more about the rider than the bike. This is why they make different bikes for different folks. For me, the CRS 250L was the right choice.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

The fit and finish is real nice on the Yamaha and Honda. I agree with your opinion on the Yamaha. I was wondering how much weight could be shed from the Honda. Now I know. That is the thing I have come to realize over my time with the KLX. The rider is everything, whether it be for doing wheelies, trail riding, racing, etc. So, like you said, different bikes for different people

[@A.Vasiliauskas]

Two and a half mins and no any info yet..

[@flamachiiman]

I disagree with your opinion of the drz, drz is more of a dual sport than the klx, just as good off-road really(80% rider 20%) bike, but the drz is better on road than the klx. honestly if we think in the mindset of buying used we all can get whichever bike we dream of, with a bit of work, next thing you know value for money gets a lot more efficient

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I see what you're saying. The DRZ is definitely better on road, and know that people like the DRZ offroad too. I mainly thought of the SM model when I made this... whoops. Used bikes are also a lot better in terms of bang for the buck 👍

[@rolandstaines3249]

Yes I agree 100% rider 80% bike 20% no matter what bike u are riding . Drz can take the big hits off road than the other 250cc duel sport bikes .

[@4x4junkie86]

why do they have such small tanks on them? that's a pathetic range imo. yes i know you can buy after market tanks but why they dont come with bigger capacity tanks is beyond me. if i took this bike from home thru the national parks to the next town over the border, it wouldnt make it, or if it did it would literally be running on fumes. id have to ride straight thru to even have a hope of making it let alone camping over night and exploring the parks then getting to another fuel station. pathetic imo. my only complaint about the 250 dualsport bikes. absolute pathetic fuel range from factory. no choice but to buy after market tanks.

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Agreed, I would definitely like to make it about 140-150 miles without having to fill up. I custom tank might be nice

[@richardburdyn9369]

And……super Sherpa seat height is low, 32 inch or so.

[@mac001texas]

I don't fool with the DRZ because it has a carb, not interested until it's fuel injected because it's freaking 2020

[@jhmotorclub6916]

I agree lol. Hopefully there will be a fuel injected DRZ soon, with the same mod potential as the carbed one. That would be sweet!

[@pavelk554]

I owner Wr250X, sold it and few year later bought KLX250s. Oh boy was i disappointed! Now a days i am back to WR and couldn't be any happier. Yes, KLX is cheaper, it it/s price perfectly reflects how much less fun one will be having.

[@cazgerald9471]

The WR250R is not in the same league as the KLX250 - the better Yamaha comparison is the XT250.

[@Shadow-js2yn]

those KTM and husqvarna bikes are too much for just a dirt bike/dual sport bike for me id rather save money and buy a cheaper lower cc first bike then spend 10k -12k on a nicer sports bike later down the road after I learned how to drive a smaller bike but thats just me

[@jhmotorclub6916]

They are a lot of money. However, the price is not bad considering a fully race prepped dirt bike can be 10K. If it is your first bike, then 10K is a lot for a bike that will most definitely get thrown around a bit

[@MrRobLarkins]

Need to lose the intro, its not fun watching it everytime i watch you videos. Otherwise keep up the good work. Intros are not needed anymore

[@Abcd-hr9ot]

Its illegal 2 ride on the roads without mirrors

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Thanks for the info; it's a good thing I have them then!

[@Abcd-hr9ot]

@@jhmotorclub6916 where did u buy d bike i live n portland

[@jhmotorclub6916]

Matt McKay, Motosport Hillsboro

[@MotoCampAdv]

Half of what you said was incorrect.

[@grumpysquid]

Such as?

[@MotoCampAdv]

@@grumpysquid im not rewatching the video but you give false info on the wr250r at one point

[@MichaelCoolGuy86]

Too boring. Left half way through video

[@kamtroy2527]

CRF250L wins.

[@fmxinsane]

sounds so weak :(

[@rosendocavazos4566]

Your intro is too long... won't watch your vids.

[@Markdmarque]

Get rid of the stupid introduction