Why I Don't Trust The Honda Dealer's Recommendations

[@DCSPORTSTER]

This man is right on the money I do everything that he does preventative maintenance is the key to a reliable vehicle. I also have three Hondas. My cars all go high miles with very few problems. I have a 2007 Honda fit sport with 260,000 miles on it now it’s still very reliable and everything thing works as it should. Still drives like a brand new car. Goes through about a half a quart of oil between oil changes still has no leaks anywhere on engine or transmission.

[@Gleeleeglee]

My 08 civic 192k mi just recently uses almost one qrt at 60% oil change status. Hopefully at 20% it wont be another qrt.

[@mysticjedi6730]

You are having oil dilution as well. It's not one way.. Up your viscosity from 5w20 to 5w30 etc. Or use oil stabalizer. Go 5%, 10% etc until it stops.

[@staceycohen5486]

@DCSPORTSTER DO ANY OF YOUR HONDAS HAVE A CVT ? OR ARE THEY ALL Traditional transmissions!?

[@William14094]

But you’re spending more on maintenance. It all balances out. I’d rather maintain it less, get less use out of it, and get newer cars more often. I don’t need my car going to 260K.

[@1whitecottagelife770]

I bought my 2022 Honda CR-V brand new and I heard that full synthetic oil can go 10,000 in between oil changes. The dealer was always telling me that they recommend changing the oil at 5000 miles, I thought that they just wanted to make more money off me. After watching a few of these videos, I went back to 5000 miles. I change my own air filters, it’s easy to squeeze the glove compartment door and slide out and check the cabin air filter, and the engine air filter is just as easy. I'm a 60 year old woman, and I have to watch what I spend very carefully as my income is low. My car has almost 30,000 miles on it, I was going to get an oil change this week, I'm going to add the transmission fluid change too. Thank you

[@MrDevior]

Great video! I agree with you. 2018 Honda Civic EX-Hs with CVT. Oil changed every 5,000 miles and CVT fluid changed at 30,000. 46,000 miles on her now.

[@HondaFarm307]

Totally agree with you. My ‘08 Accord 2.4L has 353,000 miles and I have no engine or transmission issues whatsoever. I change tranny fluid change every 30,000 miles. Once I get to 400,000 miles I might change to every 25,000 miles on transmission oil change. Engine oil change is 5,000 mile change with Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w-20. Purolator Boss filter. Going to 500,000 miles

[@russtaylor385]

In this case I don’t have a Honda - have a Toyota - but I highly rate your approach to maintenance and inspection and general advice and I learn something valuable every video. Thank you. Wish I lived nearer to you. Northumberland is a fair hike!

[@jamesgichuhi2174]

James from Kenya 🇰🇪 like your Honda explaining safety in engine very much

[@vekthor5892]

Very clear sincere humble advise.. God Bless. More power to you Shadetree

[@isaiahavelino8638]

I go to school and work for Honda in Florida and all your recommendations are the same we recommend at a lot of Honda and Acura dealers in south Florida. We also do video inspection for the customers so they can see what us technicians see when running a multipoint inspection.

[@mikeb2611]

i like that...i wish my dealer did that

[@Alex-ce8ln]

At the end of the day everything comes down to be an educated car owner. People refuse to read the owners manual and learn how to do simple preventive maintenance. Great video btw.

[@crlaw75]

Especially now, since owners are keeping their vehicles longer.

[@johnscerbo130]

100% spot on sir 👍🏼 knowledge is power

[@terrencebenjamin7241]

That’s a bad Honda Dealership. The one I got to tells me to change the transmission fluid every 25k-30k miles to change my transmission fluid. Even the manual says to change it at 25k

[@supertec2023]

I've never seen Honda recommend meaning the manufacturer for the transmission fluid to be changed at 25,000 me please State the name model year of that vehicle so I can look that up

[@terrencebenjamin7241]

@@supertec2023 2020 Honda Civic. Look at page 550 of the owner’s Manual. Along with the maintenance minders under the asterisk section it clearly states to replace the transmission fluid at 25k miles if certain conditions such as low speed driving or mountain driving is frequent.

[@alexgarcia7401]

@@supertec2023I believe the 25k fluid change applies to CVT transmissions. Your traditional transmissions I would change every 60k imo.

[@tk104]

@@supertec2023 That's the recommendation for driving in mountainous areas at low speeds. It's the combination that matters. It's not just driving in the mountains or just low speeds but the combination of the two that causes higher transmission temperatures and requires more frequent fluid changes. If that doesn't apply to you then 25K is probably too soon for your specific driving conditions.

[@Hardworkpays209]

@@supertec202323 hrv sport 2wd it says under normal operation 25k is what’s recommended but if you drive in harsh conditions. Hilly , dusty and muddy or snow 15k is recommended. I live in a harsh climate and I went 25k for the first interval to see what the fluid looked like. Nothing on the magnet but the guild was filthy I’m doing every 4th oil change now so 20k

[@Whateva67]

I have a few Hondas in my stable. I just put new Koni shocks on the front of my 01 Prelude the other day in my garage. It was a lot cheaper than getting a shop to do it,easier than I thought but it’s a drag doing it on the ground and not on a lift, I still have to do the rears as well. I like the older cars I have as they are easier to work on. Greetings from British Columbia 😊

[@Matys1975]

My wife once went to the dealer for an oil change and was told she needed new wiper blades after I changed her wiper blades literally that same week with brand new top of the line Bosch blades 😂

[@a.a.a.r5238]

It happened with me with a cabin filter. Replaced it myself with new oem couple of days before maintenance apt at dealership and they recommended to watch out for dirty cabin filter that should be replaced soon. Did not go back to them!

[@TheMarioBrosBros]

Bosch are the best, been replacing my family all with Bosch Icons.

[@waterloo123100]

@@TheMarioBrosBrosHonda wiper inserts are cheaper and better then aftermarket 😂

[@cgrf45]

Same thing happened to my wife last week. She was took her Tiguan in for service. Told her she needed new wipers, air filter, cabin filter, rear brakes and spark plugs. Total $1600. I told them just do the oil change. I told them I replaced the wipers 2 weeks ago and I checked the air filter and it was in goods condition. Monkeys is what they are.

[@Crook4Money]

Happened to me when getting my windshield replaced.

[@mikejorgensen6458]

Just found this channel and I love it ! If I need a mechanic, I’ll be going to your shop ! Thanks for the content and keep it up !

[@dad242]

Very glad I found your channel. There's no professionals anymore. You have the best interest of your clients. Thank you for all the info!

[@fordprefect5304]

My last maintenance at a Honda dealership was when my Pilot had 22,000 miles on it to get the oil changed. The service person came out with $700.00 in recommended work to be done. The first item on the list was to replace the cabin filter and vacuum out the fan area for $180 I said no to everything and replaced and vacuumed for $12 And I have not gone back.

[@charleswagenseil5496]

Great advice, no BS. Wish you guys had a shop here in Charleston SC.

[@patmcgillivray1926]

Im in Canada...oil change every 8000km (4971 miles) Honda CRV owner...2.4 litre N/A motor & last year of the 5 speed transmission. Im keeping it forever.

[@davidcampbell1899]

A Canadian here as well, Change oil every 6 months when I change the snow tires. May and November! Did the AT and Spark Plugs on my Camry at 130,000km and air and cabin filters every 2 years.

[@coloradosprings7147]

5000km

[@alanng4754]

Here here. I did my own full maintenance as well. I change my oil and transmission and differential oil. And radiator coolant change. I still have my brake fluid to change. All my brakes are inspected and/or changed after 5 years of driving. I did my oil and filter change every 3 - 5,000 miles due to the oil dilution problem on my CRV

[@Xpired_PCP]

​@coloradosprings7147 lol no. This isn't the 1950s anymore. No need to change the oil that early unless you like wasting money

[@sunderjirahim]

@@Xpired_PCPoil changes are cheap, engines are not. Always change your oil every 8-10000 km or every 6 months.

[@MrKnightoflight]

Thank you for your video. I have a 2019 Honda Ridgeline, and found out that it needs a transmission fluid change around every 20k miles and change spark plugs around every 60k miles. I never heard that from Honda. Also, my daughter’s 2019 Honda Fit had a fuel injector go bad around 60k miles. They only sold the injectors as a set, so they replaced all the injectors and spark plugs. That was costly. She is also having a problem with a loose dash gauge for fuel. It intermittently shows garbage. She is waiting for it to go completely bad before having it repaired. Other than that, we like our vehicles.

[@fredhenry426]

Thanks again. I follow your advice & insight. Excellent.

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

You are very welcome. Thanks for your support!

[@phillau3015]

Awesome! Appreciate you sharing the proper way to maintain a reliable Honda! 👍👍👍

[@Ron-kn6ur]

Same with the newer Toyota vehicles with these long oil change intervals. I get my oil change done very 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first. I get it done at an independent garage.

[@josephkelleher8820]

I agree with your recommendations. On my 12' Altima I have the CVT fluid changed every 2 years. To me years are just as important as miles.

[@christanner8104]

I wish we had honest guys like you here in the UK. The wife has a 2020 Mazda 2 and just been caught out on the annual MOT check at the main dealer. It was OK when she took it in (I checked beforehand as I do regularly) but got stung when she went to collect. 😮

[@nobujak]

In an online forum I found, a Honda technician in Japan confirmed that all Honda cars required scheduled transmission fluid flush. No exception. No such thing as life-time transmission fluid with Honda.

[@GF-mf7ml]

In South ease Asia, Honda own these dealers, they replace filters and fluid because if the transmission fail, Honda will replace it with loss. BTW it's unlimited mileage with 8 years warranty.

[@waynehung4801]

In Asia, the transmission service interval is 37,500 miles and by research the Honda ATF is high quality Group III base oil which required schedule service. For Group VI PAO base ATF will last 60,000 miles often in European cars but never lifetime.

[@leminh09]

I’d disagree if you have one of the ZF 9-speed transmissions. Those are only drain and fill every 30k

[@malcolmar]

Very sound advice sir. With new cars costing more, holding on to your current car as long as possible is becoming more and more important. You are a blessing to your community and the industry. You definitely deserve a sub from me. Keep up the great work! I'm not sure if it is like this on all Hondas but my Honda Civic has a turbo engine and there is actually a percentage number in my dash that starts to count down from 100% after my oil change to 10% - 5% when I change it. Is that a normal thing or is that just on turbos?

[@anthonygreco12]

Great info-My 2008 Ridgeline has only been dealer serviced and has 304K on it. They do everything you do, only thing I have not done are the struts, still original and truck drives the same as new

[@bcdeaton777]

Awesome Video. I am a believer in everything you said. What's going on is they are hoping that after the older crowd goes away they can stop having vehicles go 317000 miles like my 2012 Honda Ridgeline. I am 63 and it always amazes me how many young people who completely accept these crazy long oil changes. Many don't even know how to check their oil. I really believe they don't want vehicles to last as long as the older Hondas and Toyotas so you will have to buy a new one.

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

I think you nailed it on the head! 👏

[@MrSamPhoenix]

We work on our Honda/Acura vehicles and maintain them religiously. This is especially true when it comes to the transmissions. We do a simple drain and fill once a year. This keeps our CVT, 5, 6, 9, & 10 speed transmissions very happy.

[@Eddievoneddie13]

We bought a new 2019 HR/V LX in May 2020. My interval for a drain/refill on the CVT fluid is 20,000 miles. I've already done one. Additionally, upon the first oil change, I started using Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil.

[@genehanson573]

Very good information, purchased a 2017 Honda Accord Sport and plan on keeping it for a long time, it is ABSOLUTLEY insane for Honda and the dealships to recommend 10k oil changes and state the CVT transmission fluid as LIFETIME. This is totally wrong, most Honda vehicles use a very thin engine oil, 0-20 which as stated in the video breaks down in a much shorter time. It is IMPERATIVE that you stick to a 5k oil change schedule even with full synthetic oil and change your CVT transmission fluid every 30K, and ONLY use the Honda HCF-2 CVT transmission fluid.This will save you in the long run from huge costly repairs, I am just blown away the Honda dealerships/manufacturer would recommend such intervals, sounds to me like they want you to go by their intervals and make lots of $$$$

[@johnblum2829]

I have a 2017 honda accord sport also, I do all my own maintenance, penzoil ultra platinum every 3,000 oem transmission fluid every 30,000 wix filters all around.

[@slscamg]

I have found 0w-20 to be robust in NA applications. Definitely not taking it to 10k miles but when I have it tested at 5k it definitely has some life in it.

[@Jagshemasher]

Really good advice being given here - this is how I look after our family's cars. Spending money on maintenance really saves you money in the long run and is critical if you plan on keeping your car a long time. There is no such thing as "lifetime" oil . . . if you don't change it the "life" of the transmission will be severely reduced (run away as fast as you can from anyone claiming otherwise). Change transmission oil at least every 50,000 miles with normal automatic gearboxes and more frequently with crappy CVT's - this is way cheaper than paying for a new transmission - a colleague of mine just had to replace the CVT in his Nissan and it was not a particularly high mileage car. I own a BMW in which the service manual recommends 12,000 mile oil change intervals which to me, as a mechanical engineer is asinine and simply a way to make the maintenance costs seem lower (at least until the engine coughs up is crank bearings). I reduced that interval interval by half. Air filters and cabin filters . . . every 18 - 24 months is usually okay and if you buy decent aftermarket parts from reputable parts companies these particular parts are not expensive and very easy to change yourself so even if you want to do it every 12 months its not going to break the bank.

[@Brisco_County_Jr]

50k miles is very early. Most basic autos can go to 100k no problems. How are things getting higher maintenance? Should be the opposite. Bad transmissions, bad fluid, or both?

[@theredscourge]

Toyota had an issue with piston design until about 2015 which was causing oil issues with the 10k mi oil changes, but this was since fixed. Other brands may not have caught it so early, hence the prevalence of problems with 10k mi oil change intervals. It was after the change to low tension piston rings where fuel could blow by and dilute the oil near where the rods connect. I know this affected some Audis until at least 2017 maybe longer too.

[@jpelphrey91]

I took my Ridgeline into the dealer for a “free oil change” and they told me I needed new brake pads and rotors. I checked and they had plenty of life left. Two years later I still have 20% of the pad life left according to an honest shop. Just had them check yesterday.

[@RajSharma-mm9ou]

You are 100% right I don't even wait for 5000 miles because it is my car not dealer

[@LTGONZ0]

Thank you, couldn't have came out during a better time. I just purchased my 2024 accord last night. Question, so for the Accord EX 1.5, my dealer recommended 87 octaine. I was confused because I'm fairly certain it's 91. And I feel you on the topic of trust when it comes to dealers

[@jimbike8064]

87 octane for a Honda accord ex 1.5 I have the 2020 accord exl. I've heard some people recommend higher octane because it helps with potential head gasket problems.

[@LTGONZ0]

@jimbike8064 thanks. Yeah, it seems like that's what a lot of others have been saying, and also sticking to a consistent fuel station when possible . I think I'm going to use 91, and use Chevron since it's near me

[@jamesvw769]

The 1.5 has a huge oil dilusion issues. Some say high octane helps.

[@jimbike8064]

@@LTGONZ0 I heard Ahmd from the Car Care Nut channel say that...try to stick with 1 brand. Had never heard that before. Of course it should always be a top tier gasoline, which Chevron is. I use Shell 95% of the time. Only something else in a pinch. I'm at 52,000 miles on my Accord. No problems, knock wood.

[@gordonschiff3621]

The higher octane has more cleaner in it and will reduce carbon build up.

[@wileymore]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience! I have found your channel to be very informative! Also, it is very rare that a shop has loaner cars for its customers. That definitely elevates your shop and I'm sure your customers appreciate that courtesy.

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

Thank you! Yes our loaner cars have been a big pain in my butt...but my customers love them..haha

[@freshamarni]

I love this . Its worth knowing, GOD bless you Chief

[@Marbind]

I believe that the main problem is customers going with cheap oil and filters. I'm with the camp that follows the maintenance minder but use high quality oil and filters. I have a 130K miles odyssey that follows the built in maintenance minder which is well known for long intervals between oil changes. No issues with oil consumption or anything related. I seen oil analysis done on Hondas that follow the MM recommendation and all metrics are within range. 🤷‍♂ Will continue to follow the MM no matter what in my new Acura too.

[@Brian-nx3yp]

Yeah, his "guarantee" for engine problems by 200K if you go 10K is false. I follow the MM which is typically 10K and my '09 Civic has 320K without issues. I use a full synthetic and burn about 1.5qt between MM changes.

[@milfordcivic6755]

Honda can keep their "free" oil changes. I just bought a new Ridgeline and they will never touch my truck unless it's a warranty repair

[@bigjay1970]

Have one since 2006😊

[@ViceCityLiving]

Great advice! What If your car sits or just doesn’t even hit 5k miles easily? Would you recommend changing the oil every 6 months instead? I have a ‘20 Accord and I’m worried I’m not driving it enough and the oil may go bad over time.

[@STILLNIGHTPEARL]

I’m in the same boat as you, I’m barely at 2600 miles since July 15 2023, 2018 accord sport 1.5 CVT, the maintenance minder came on last month, I will be changing the oil soon, honda says not to go past the 1 year mark for vehicles that aren’t driven much, just replace it at the one year mark.

[@ViceCityLiving]

@@STILLNIGHTPEARL Thanks man, I appreciate that information!

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

I will tell you this much, hydrocarbon chemistry hasn't changed. Molecular oxygen is still highly electronegative and it will transfer electrons and oxidize carbon atoms and create a series of radical reactions. In other words, heat plus oxidizers and containments are still present.

[@Mo.Jo.]

Transmission fluid for a CVT should be changed, but how about a transmission with clutches? As the transmission gets older, i believe keeping the same fluid is more beneficial, is it not? So that the clutch debris in the fluid can assist the worn out clutch to better engage and not slip.

[@Dryloch]

For a normal transmission it is best to drain and fill the transmission. This keeps about half the old fluid with debris in it. This gives you a good compromise of getting some clean fluid in and still keeping enough of the debris.

[@jjpac2011]

Thanks for the video. Well done and vital information to ensure longevity in our hondas. I will definitely follow your schedule. I just got a 2025 Ridgeline and am bummed that it still has a timing belt. =( I guess it also has CVT trannies as well?

[@samphillips8322]

Excellent video. Other manufacturers, including Toyota, are giving customers the same bad advice. For any of these newer cars with DOHC engines, you can roll down a window and hear the difference after a 10,000 mile oil change. A clear indication the top end is not getting proper lubrication once the oil has been in the car that long. Same goes for transmission service. Beware of any used cars that have only had service at the new extended intervals.

[@davidlampe4153]

Good information and clearly right on the money. Your video outlines all the important schedules for maintenance I’m very grateful there’s still a few mechanics and business that are working hard to educate people about car maintenance. I’m a little surprised that you left the Honda dealership with a maintenance agreement but they can be persuasive you just got caught up in the moment. You should get a couple of magnetic sign’s and cover up your own wrap with a feed store sign or something innocuous so any casual observer might not recognize your car in the dealership quick lube for service.

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

Haha..I bought it from a buddy of mine and he actually gets in a little trouble from management if he doesn't sell a maintenance package or extended warranty. He made it work within what I was willing to pay him for the car.

[@toyorobo]

Even Nissan CVTs can go farther if the fluid is changed every 30,000 miles. This is great advice. Also, 10,000 mile oil changes are a recipe for disaster, but that disaster will likely show it's face after 150,000 miles. This gets people into a newer car and they hope that customers can justify 150,000 as the "lifetime" of their car and move on without as much of a fight. The manufacturers care about them, not you.

[@street_booler9026]

Fellow Utahn here, please keep making these helpful videos 🙏🏽

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

Thank you! You got it

[@youngandballin92]

Honda technician here. Our dealership recommends 5k oil change service intervals and 30k for CVT transmissions. It varies from dealership to dealership. Manufacture recommendations aren’t the end all be all because most customers don’t even understand their maintenance minders. They rely on the oil change sticker and the service advisor telling them what they need.

[@benjaminwilliams3568]

I like this guy. He just tells it like it needs to be said, this is called Quality Customer Service. I own an 02 Accourd bought brand new, it was bought as a company car I Provide IT services to companies. The new accords cannot hold a candle to my 02 LX. I've a 2.3L with 5 Speed Manual Trans; power windows and AC. That's all I need.

If I was anywhere near Utah I would be bringing my vehicles to you every time. Preventative maintenance is the way to go. Regardless if it's cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats, etc. A lot of it depends on what climate you live in as well.

[@Change4ADollar]

I wish you had an older car for sale. I would love to buy a car from you, You definitely take care of them for sure....

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

Thank you!

[@leminh09]

Agree with everything you said beside the struts. Replace those when they need to be replaced. Not at an interval. Newer Honda V6 engines still have timing belt

[@johnsradios484]

I’m gonna follow this oil change recommendation! Also CVT fluid will be changed .

[@dlzchaos588]

I can tell you that these recommendations can easily vary wildly by dealership and honestly service advisor and technician. I work on cars and I tell people these things listed below Oil change every 5k check your oil level before changing the oil to make sure you’re not burning any. If you don’t then you will eventually get a P0341, it will jump time and potentially destroy your engine, or the timing chain tensioner/ VTC actuator will rattle on start up. Either one of these will result in a new chain, tensioner, guides, VTC actuator, and in the case of engine failure you trading in the car because you’re gonna say screw putting in a new engine. Trans drain and fill every 30k for CVT( 9/10 speed every 50k, 6 speed auto do a flush(Hondas main weak point honestly has always been their transmissions. I do a flush because the fluid in these pilots after 30k is usually pretty dark and the pilots like to get a P0741 which if that pops up then you’ll need a torque converter. DO NOT USE A FLUSH MACHINE. Drain and refill the transmission fluid and then drive the car to cycle the fluid through the torque converter and repeat this process until the fluid is cherry red. Trust me it works and sometimes if you have a P0741 then it’ll keep it away. This flush will work/help any Honda that takes ATF-DW1.) change the fluid sooner if you tow or haul anything frequently). Transfer case and rear differential fluid every 15k ( I know he said every 30k in the video but I’ve seen some cars come in with a vibration when making sharp turns and when I change the fluid it goes away. These customers waiting 30k instead of 15k. It’s not every car this happens to.) Brake fluid every 3 years or if it’s dark Multi point inspection and tire rotation every 5k. Power steering fluid I usually don’t change unless I’m fixing a leak and need to add some. Flushing it out usually causes a blockage and swelling of the inner tie rod boots. Forcing that fluid around just sometimes causes leaks that weren’t previously there due to aging seems so just leave it alone unless there is a leak. Spark plugs, timing belt w/ tensioner, drive belt, water pump, associated pulleys, and valve check and adjustment every 100k( only use NGK or Denso spark plugs. Not changing the plugs usually makes the coil packs work harder and eventually burns them out. Usually they’ll start to fail under load. If the coil pack does fail only use HONDA products because usually the aftermarket coil packs fail WAYYYYYYYYYY faster and customers are always in disbelief when I tell them the coil the just replaced at autozone has failed. Carbon cleaning every 50k if you have direct injection. All direct injection cars carb up on the valves unless they’re using a dual injection system like Toyota. Hope someone finds this useful and don’t let people talk you into those carbon cleaners where all they do is spray stuff into the throttle body. Half the time it’ll result you needing a catalytic converter sooner than you normally would. My dealer tries to push them but I purposely don’t sell them. The best way to remove carbon is to take the intake off and actually clean the valves manually so it doesn’t get in the catalytic converter. That spray shit barely works at all and just isn’t worth the hassles knowing that a new catalytic converter can be thousands of dollars. My Honda has over 270k on it and I follow these intervals and have had zero issues. Also adding half a quart to a quart of ATF-DW1 every oil change can help keep the engine clean as it does serve as a detergent inside the engine but that’s optional. I usually add about half a quart.

[@lisamoss3146]

I agree. I own a 2013 Accord EX w/CVT which I bought in 2017 and it had 20k mi. Years later, when I had added 50k to the odometer, I was trying to figure out when to change the CVT fluid. There was no maintenance schedule in the manuals so I called a Honda dealer and asked. I ended up calling several because they weren't too clear on when to do this, nor did they seem to agree with other dealerships' answers. I was given 30k, 50k, 60-100k so I finally asked my mechanic, who I have used for 20 years, and he said he would do it at 80k. So .. at 80k he did a flush for me. The only thing that worries me is should we have changed the fluid, rather than doing a flush? I've heard the machines they use can cause damage. This was 2 years ago, and I have 100k now. So I'm guessing no damage was done but for next time should I change or flush?

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

What concerns most people with the verbiage "flush" is not really a problem any more. Most shops either do a drain and fill or use a machine for a fluid exchange. Either way has its place.

[@ricksays7133]

I will only use Eneos brand for my '22 Civic Sport for its engine oil and CVT fluid. This brand is OEM for most Japanese cars. I find their engine oil lasting up to 6000 miles, and their CVT fluid still looks good after 30,000 miles but I change it before it reaches 40,000 miles with new CVT filters, pan gasket and o-ring seals in the CVT cooler housing.

[@Aki_Lesbrinco]

About the CVT transmission. I had a 2014 amAccord with a CVT and the Honda dealership recomended changing it evey 30k miles (if I remember corectly). I changed it three times while I had the car. I bought it with around 35k miles on it and the previous owner had changed it at 30k miles. Sold the car with 126k miles on it and the transmission was as smooth as the first time I drove it. So, yeah. Change your CVT fluids.

[@Andrew-vd2ko]

I am in New Zealand and I change my Honda Accord cabin filter every 20 to 30k kms. The NZ Honda recommend new spark plugs every 100k kms. We have found Honda wheel bearings only last 90 to 170k kms. I also found alternator and starter motor both needed to be replaced around 160 to 220 kms and it's common with 2.4 Honda Accord.... Just thought I would share my experience....

[@MisterR4236]

Thank you. I have a 22 accord sport 1.5lT I bought new and I worry about the quality of it's engine and transmission as far as longevity. Honda gave me the limited lifetime 10 year warranty when I bought it brand new but I still wonder about it. I only drive it about 3000 a year and baby it but I think I will probably sell it for a Toyota in another year. Thank you for your advice for all service maintenance. I will do as you are instructing. However, I'm doing oil changes at every 3000 miles at the dealership just to be sure. Thanks again.

[@Harold_Callahan]

6:15 Exactly right. Inspect first then replace if needed. Just replacing based on mileage alone is lazy shop work.

[@rhondamitchell2008]

Excellent advice. I own a 2017 honda CRV. I change my own oil every 4000 miles. Cvt fluid once each year and differential fluid once a year. Car runs like brand new.

[@johnlee270]

I do my every 25 thousand miles on my Honda Civic CVT fluid, 5 5,000 miles on engine oil! Serpentine belt at 90k miles now it is 99k miles have zero issues!

[@freshamarni]

In Africa Ghana where I live with most untarred roads, I mostly change cabin filters & the Air elements every 5000km, sometimes every other oil servicing.

[@Kevin19700]

Everything on this vid is spot on! This guy knows what he is talking about.

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

Thank you!

[@boatingguy3905]

Hello, I'm retired, I only read a few reviews but they agree with your advice, as do I. I bought a new Honda CRV 1.5 Turbo in 2018, it has very low miles now in 2024. After a life's worth of mostly used, different cars with varying experiences, me and my wife wanted a rock solid car for traveling in retirement. I've always done my own maintenance when possible. So far I haven't experienced oil dilution but it is a concern. Me being 64 when I bought the car, I hoped it might be my last car before I have to stop driving and am determined to baby it and maintain it well to that end. A selling point was the Honda dealer gave lifetime oil changes. I took it in for the first change but discovered that online reviews of the Honda oil filters they use were terrible. Ever since, I change my own with quality filters, quality full synthetic oil every 5 thousand miles and I plan to change transmission fluid at 30,000. I agree Honda dealer recommended mileages aren't realistic for really long life. Even if my oil changes are a little early for my own case, it's a small price to pay for longevity, safety, security and confidence in the vehicle. I'm a well educated user, I think as you said - Honda's marketing and products attract the kind of buyer who intends to do what's needed to make the car last. Love your videos! Don't change a thing! :)

[@katazack]

Can't argue with any of this advice. The only thing I would add is that oil and tranny fluid won't wear as much during highway driving in temperate conditions. I generally stretch oil changes out during the winter months (in Florida), maybe go 6.000 miles if I'm on the highway a lot. Our Acura flashed a transmission service code at 47,000 miles, right about when I planned on having it done. It spends more than half of its life on the highway.

[@jhors7777]

Excellent video, thanks so much for posting this.

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind comment

[@usinebob]

Great, great video…thanks so much for sharing.

[@MaryPoppins-d1k]

Thank you, Subaru says never change CVT too. I will change mine around 30

[@RJSamonte]

Thanks for the great tips. I definitely want to follow your advice on changing the tramission fluid. Where should I have my CVT fluid changed, at the dealer or a local shop?

[@bcdeaton777]

I sure wish your shop was near me in Virginia. A really good shop like yours is hard to find these days.

[@Halum_Movies]

Great video! Our Subaru dealer told us the same thing about our 2017 Legacy. No shops will touch the car to change transmission fluid because the manual says not to touch it. The dealer wants to flush the transmission at 100k miles, but I've heard negative things about that as well. Very frustrating

[@robertneal6878]

@Halum_Movies From what I have read from Mechanics such as Scotty Kilmer and others, Do NOT have a transmission flushed! It breaks stuff loose that would not have caused a problem, but it Now will. Drain it and replace the fluid with the Same amount that was drained.

[@Halum_Movies]

@@robertneal6878 that's exactly what I've heard and that's my fear. I feel put in a position by Subaru to fail

[@evangravitz4029]

10,000 miles or one year oil change intervals have been working well for me. I have been using Mobil 1 0w 20 and a Mobil 1 oil filter in my 2012 Civic's R18. My driving until 2023 was mostly highway miles. I have been putting less than 3,000 miles a year on since 2023.

[@h2opower]

As a mechanic myself I have seen and heard these scrupulous people trying to make a buck at every turn tell me things I know weren't wrong with my car and a few times I have caught them actually breaking things in a manor that will take a few hundred miles to break fully just so they can get me to come in and spend money with them. The worse I have seen was a business owner running around spilling nails on the highways, breaking vehicles glass, and the absolute worst was when I had a oil pan changed and the dealer took the liberty to crack my mains causing me to have to buy a brand new engine. Here is the thing they don't seem to understand when they do these things is when you build up a bad reputation it follows you like white on rice and you end up having to shut down and attempt to start over someplace else with the hope that no one tells the truth about your past shady practices to the public before they can get started all over again preying on unsuspecting consumers. I used to be a lover of VW's but once I saw how they treated a long time customer like me poorly and realized that they were, at the time, making their cars to fail with the simplest things normal people do to their cars, like change out a battery I vowed to never own a VW ever again for as long as I live. That broken trust will last several generations as I teach my children and they in turn teach theirs and so on and so on to never own a VW due to them being greedy when they really didn't have to be.

[@DollarBill01984]

The oil change interval should be as follows 6 months or 5,000 miles period. Use full synthetic oil only! Nice feature that you offer loaner vehicles too!

[@TommyG11814]

Great advice no matter what you drive.

[@tonyfontana8222]

My 2015 Honda civic cvt transmission went out at 138K. The dealership advised when I purchased the car brand to never change the trans fluid!

[@charlesharnois3684]

Same B/S From SUBARU, I've Had CVT Fluid Changed Twice, 140 Thousand On My 15 Outback No CVT Issues! I Change Engine Oil Every 4 To 5 Thousand. Small Local Independent Shop Does Competent Work!

[@jmuscara68]

What is a good aftermarket strut manufacturer for a 2014 Honda CRV?

[@natas12rm]

Stock

[@jameskim62]

As a mechanic and Lover of Honda, I agree 110% with you. You pay me small now or pay huge amount later ??? Auto manufacturers make huge profits through selling parts.

[@pt109che]

Hmm, our 2018 Honda CR-V maintenance minder is about 6-8000 km. But, I change it at 30% remainder just because of the GDI and turbo oil dilution potential problem. The manual does indicate CVT transmission fluid change.

[@jd5179]

I always replace trans fluid 40-50k miles , oil change 4-5k miles . Never fails on me and all of them reached over 200k miles with no issues .

[@TOUGHLOVEFINANCE]

I like it except shocks struts. But I agree with 30k transmission oil agreed 100k miles sparkplug agreed cabin air filter 30k yep.yep I'm with u

[@rockkstah2550]

You don’t have to be a Honda owner to apply all these good stuff he just said, it applies to all.. thank you sir!

[@robertduklus6555]

My cabin filter is easily accessible and i change it once a year. Its always quite dirty filled with debris. A lot depends on the enviroment you are driving in but every 2 years by default is not the best

[@egx161]

Excellent advice. But, my dealership now wants to charge me for a cvtf re learn procedure. The price went up and they want to justify the increase with an unnecessary trans re learn after a cvtf change. Wow. I know better.

[@rKiYPZ2h]

For Honda suspension components, do you use aftermarket or OEM? I would be interested to see a video on how you guys decide what you decide when to use aftermarket parts.

[@natas12rm]

Use McPherson!

[@RitaLG1]

Thank you for this information. I just purchased a 2023 Passport at the end of last year and was wondering when things should be done.

[@isaiahavelino8638]

Another Very important thing is Honda has the built in maintenance minder which we educate our customers on. It’a the numbers and letters that appear on the dash when coming in for maintenance. The system tracks the cars mileage and the vehicle owners over all driving and duration of driving to recommend the proper services. Only way you can mess that up is not doing the recommended service when the car tells you to. A: oil Change B: oil change and filter 1: tire rotation 2: cabin and engine filters 3: transmission service 4: spark plugs 6: differential fluid 7: brake fluid During some of those services if you read the manufacturer repair manual we are instructed to look at other things when performing those services like checking the drive belt or brake pads or the timing chains. Only thing I can say is no matter what we always change the oil filters and do a rotation to give the customer the longest tire life. South Florida Honda dealers are big on maintenance due to our weather not being very extreme that’s our biggest money maker we don’t a lot of big repair jobs at all.

[@joeb7576]

Transmission fluid changes are recommended on all Honda's. The interval is built into the onboard maintenance minder and should occur at approx 80,000km. It's listed in the owners manual and is maintenance code #3

[@cardiobuck]

Thank you for posting! As a long time Honda owner who has done his own wrenching for over a decade, I agree with the advice here. I do have a question about our 2024 Civic 1.5L: when you say CVT service at 30,000 miles do you mean just the fluid or do you drop the pan and replace the filter? I think there are two filters in the circuit. One by the pan and one by the cooler.--Do you recommend these to be changed at an interval or just the fluid? With my past Honda vehicles I have only ever changed the fluid every 30,000 and never had a problem but they were not CVTs.

[@MPCM1776]

I run Civic GX natural gas cars and I mirror your service recommendations. Though you didn't mention valve adjustments. My 2013 GX get adjusted every 30k miles instead of 60k as the nat gas explosion is twice as hot as gasoline and with no rocker arms it's critical to adjust to maintain motor performance, or so the cng crowd says.

[@jefflanning4856]

Awesome video, thanks so much! Aside from inspecting the brake fluid, I'm wondering if there is a general mileage at which the brake fluid should be replaced?

[@chrisjagielski338]

I to like Honda Accords - I had a 1990 and have a 2003 and a 2011 - I change the transmission fluid around 30,000 miles - there is a transmission fluid filter that I replace, but it’s never mentioned in the owners manual as to the interval

[@fanguy247b9]

My local Honda dealership has said 5k miles on oil change, 30k on my cvt transmission and 60k or five years on my coolant. They said believe in making sure they have repeat customers who will have trouble free reliability to become lifelong Honda drivers. I’m still getting the free maintenance plan so far I’ve had three oil changes and a cabin air filter replacement hit something in the road damaged a tire. Literally the only thing I’ve paid for so far was the cabin air filter for 35 bucks.

[@kylelangley8818]

Lol the shade tree automotive in the background is the cherry on top. But agreed, one dealership refused to service my transmission fluid insisting its lifetime. The other down the street agreed to flush & drain given the vehicle 5yrs age and mileage. Lifetime = Till it Breaks

[@truckerallister9080]

i don't trust what anyone els says, never did, as i broke away from Honda in the 90s i still buy tand drive them myself, but I always tell my workshop to change oil 5k and transmission exactly what you are saying, I don't care even if my workshop ask if i have problems, i say no but please do as i want, and he does, thank you Sir your advice is very helpful and important to people who have other vehicles

[@ShadetreeAutomotiveLayton]

Thank you!

[@my3636363636]

I just found out last service visit here in Calgary that the original owners of Honda sold to people who are not family oriented. The service guy told me things have really changed and that they are to go longer on oil changes . He said the tension is really bad there. So sad

[@louislinfante7378]

Love your video information it seems to me to be honest and spot on. I own a 2019 Acura RDX, I cannot get rock bottom information I when I should change the rear differential and also the transfer case fluid. Also the transmission fluid, can you suggest what I should be doing. My vehicle has 52,000 miles on it and I have changed the transmission fluid once at 30,000 miles as well as the rear differential fluid. Can you help. Thank you

[@edwardclark8808]

The 10k service interval come from customers surveys done by automotive manufacturers. Since most cars are leased; the customers do not like going to the dealership for servicing often. This has led to 10k or one year oil changes by the new car dealership service departments