Why I got an Urban Arrow as my first cargo bike

[@nzsnyc]

many thanks to Maddy for her tip on how to store a cargo bike on a street by putting a cover over it. it helped me overcome my fear of leaving it on the street overnight and i finally got the bike (RM Load 60) a couple of months ago. my 20 month old and i love it. :)

[@MerlinDerMagier]

I believe sooo many people would do this if it just was safer. Many people don't feel safe on a bike, especially with kids - but not because of the bike, but because of the cars. Over there in the US ist must be even worse with all those stupid SUVs and "Trucks". Society needs to break Motonormativity so bad...

[@badabing8884]

Exactly. We still live in a car centric world where cars come first and cyclists are caught inbetween pedestrians and vehicles. As good as this cargo bike is the number 1 concern is safety on roads. And for that authorities need to reconstruct urban environments by giving up road space and pavements to bikes before more people cycle.

[@RFord2]

The more people that are convinced to bike locally the less car traffic there is to eventually contend with. Better urban planning for cities is going to become so important. People centred architecture is becoming more prevalent in larger urban centres thankfully.

[@PeterSdrolias]

Absolutely! Safety is number one!!!

[@danddietz]

Feeling safe ≠ being safe. Data shows you’re safer on a bike than in a car. Cyclists certainly are vulnerable road users but that doesn’t mean they’re unsafe.

[@cargobikeshark]

Touched on ALL the potential barriers and benefits. Well done Maddy and Chris!

[@Dave-my1we]

Always great content. Maddy is likely an inspiration to many. While I don’t have a cargo bike, I do ride my ebike daily for commuting/errands and, I’m 60+ and live in the mountain west. I am 100% convinced that increased bicycle usage is an overall huge positive for the individual and society at large. Keep riding, Maddy!

[@apple369]

I live in Vancouver, BC and adore cargo bikes. I've had a Zigo for about 10 years and it's been modified as my needs change. The Zigo is unique because the front cargo box can be removed and the bike bcomes a traditional 2-wheel bike. I initially bought it to travel with my senior dog in the front stroller (it's build for kids but I modified it for a dog). When my dog passed away I had the stroller canvas removed and built a cargo box for the frame. Another handy thing about this bike is the front cargo box can be used as a shopping trolley when it's removed from the bike frame.

[@Digital.Done.Right.]

Maddy is always a great rep for the urban biking life.

[@RK-hw9tg]

Hats off for manoeuvring around crazy NY traffic with your family in that wheel barrow .

[@tomselek1000]

She was just on the Active Towns show. Maddy is making the rounds, good for you! She is blowing up!

[@jacobpowell1882]

We got an urban arrow from Propel 2 years ago. We aren’t instagram famous but have gotten to be pretty well know in our city. We toys around our 5 kids in the urban arrow (with a trail along bike on the back) all over town. I highly recommend it. It has definitely allowed us to be a 1 car family.

[@DizzyDiddy]

We've got five kids, one car and an Urban Arrow too. A tag along bike might be a good idea for us too while we still have one kid in a car seat. Something to consider. We get noticed by locals too. The Urban Arrow has been a great conversation starter since we got ours last October.

[@arnor811]

What do you use for the trail along bike?

[@jacobpowell1882]

We have 2 burley piccolos for our trail a bike. We did have to modify the rack to make a good connection but they have been great. My two oldest sometimes ride their own bikes depending on where we are going.

[@artsmit8004]

​@@jacobpowell1882 I was just looking at reviews for that one. So you didn't use their proprietary back rack but modified your UA to handle the connection? What kind of modification was needed?

[@jacobpowell1882]

Honestly the proprietary rack came with with but I just cut the supports off of their rack and bolted it to the urban arrow rack.

[@spartancanuck]

Urban Arrow bakfeits have gotten a following here in Edmonton. It used to be that the people who had one were bike weirdos who I knew personally, but now I'm seeing them on a regular basis. Parents shuttling their kids down the 102 Ave bike corridor has gotten to be a pretty regular thing.

[@effluvium9]

Amazing video Maddy & Chris! Keep up the great work!

[@rico1142]

Love this, specially for NYC. Great idea.

[@jakemaas2068]

I rode up to an intersection in Amsterdam and a mom with twin babies were sitting in a cargo bike. The babies were adorable.

[@ThomasMTube]

Brilliant! I live in a city, don't have a cargo bike but I do have an ebike and they just make damn sense. I can cycle about the city and complete all my errands in the same time someone in a car would be stuck in traffic on their way to their first stop. Bike's especially ebikes are just so damn efficient - we just flow

[@bartobruintjes7056]

Nice to see a Dutch bike invention in the US.

[@patrickhobbs96]

It's called a bakfiets in the Netherlands. Very practical. The handlebars are higher, so you sit upright. You can transport groceries, not only kids, very well. 🙂

[@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm]

@@GNMi79 Make friends with the doorman, concierge or others

[@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm]

@@GNMi79 we’re talking about a NY high rise , check the rents and get back to me

[@garyseckel295]

@@GNMi79 UH, the cargo bicycle came in last, giving them MORE money! Hello?!

[@nonegone7170]

@@GNMi79 It's a combination of factors. There's plenty of 'higher end' cargobikes to choose from, with some pretty far out prices, so saving money doesn't always have to be the main factor. the average speed in urban centers is often higher for a bike than a car, so that can be a major factor too.

[@SteveAlperson]

Great interview. One of your best for the cargo bike. Good job Chris and Maddy.

[@EbikeEscape]

We also rode a Urban Arrow in NL and fell in love. Ultimately with 3 kiddos we opted for a utility ebike with a Burley. There are some advantages and some disadvantages but ultimately we already had an ebike that would work (with dual batteries) so the cost of a new Urban Arrow just didn't make sense. Love her Instagram and enjoyed the video 😀

[@treakzy_9594]

not riding a bakfiets or cargo but a usual moutainbike on the daily. i love it. not even owning a car is so much freedom

[@freddyfrieza6742]

Good luck with the fight of promotion, fighting comfort is hard. People need to want to put the effort in it ❤ love from the Netherlands

[@cadriver2570]

I love that they use a quieter motor than the R&M bikes. The CX and Speed are quite noisy.

[@k1zzerd]

From one vet to another, thanks for this and all your content, Chris. America needs more folks like you.

[@bobbieboothroyd8531]

It's always good to see you Maddy. I like the visor on your Helmet it's a good idea

[@cebruthius]

I'm loving the "robocop" style helmet

[@LucasH567]

Such a great conversation! Just by being on the cargo bike, you are a billboard for what is possible.

[@jayvis123111]

oh my goodness! I've been following Maddy when she was first mentioned on this channel, I never knew we were the same height! Glad that the urban arrow I've been staring at "through the window" of the internet will fit when I eventually get one.

[@lighthunter1980]

I currently live in Australia but am moving at the end of the year to NYC. I have a R&M Load 75 and either ship it or sell and buy a new one (Rohloff this time) in your shop.

[@garyseckel295]

Rohloff hub positively changes everything!

[@pao8ney]

Love using my load4 75 in all errands… ❤

[@joetilman7227]

Great video...even the virtual barrel-roll, which nearly brought my lunch up 😁

[@dcltdw]

Great video! Looking forward to more like these.

[@jadedjourneys]

This is a really great video! Thanks

[@tomreingold4024]

Maddy is a total badass. Smart, fun, and stylish.

[@co7013]

This basic design of this cargo bike also works perfectly without electrical engine. There is a place for e-bikes, but if you're not covering larger distances and the terrain isn't too hilly, it doesn't need to be electrical.

[@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm]

I remember when I was young and strong🙂

[@garyseckel295]

@@CarlosGonzalez-hg1xm YUP! Decades ago, for this senior handicapper!

[@ekcs3941]

We love our urban arrow! Def got sold to the idea via Maddys socials. We also have a GSD but for kids the UA is the best I think!

[@bengie11355]

I'd rather have this over a car for transport in the city

[@CaptApril123]

I used a motorcycle cover on my first e-bike that I had to park outside, nobody touched it. After a year of ownership it's pretty much paid for itself anyway so if it gets stolen it's not a total disaster although I've never had an e-bike stolen as opposed to one of my regular bikes probably because of the extra care.

[@hahafalseflag5090]

from what I hear is ny is charging cars to drive thru the city.. these cargo bikes may come in handy..

[@srobeck77]

Until u get robbed or mobbed by the illegal immigrant encampments. Time to flee that state

[@drizzleprism5826]

Hush you conservative slime

[@reese924]

I got a long tail bc it was cheaper. I might have to change it out for an urban arrow. pricey though

[@jadedjourneys]

Re the height of the rider , I bought a Eunorau cargo bike (kids are behind me on the pannier ) and I am 5’8” and the seat is as low as it goes and I’m still on tip top! So that’s great urban arrow is an option for short people

[@letsgoOs1002]

I wish we could have gotten a front loader but long tail bikes for us made way more sense. Pushing the stupid beg buttons would have been impossible with the front loader. But a gsd we have no problem parking the bike and pushing the beg buttons. But the new r and m small front loader has me very interested! We are definitely the only people in our area using a cargo bike year round. And people stop us all the time. We have a cool story if you guys want to come down northern Virginia.

[@TotemKommo-o]

I personally want an Urban Arrow as well. Most people seem to get it for kids, but I'd like my partner to ride around in it (and yes, he's happily open to the idea) That, and groceries.

[@Starchild670]

More e-power to this woman. Bravo.

[@bertkassing8541]

My great God, she is even smaller than my Chinese adopted daughter who is 155 cm :-) And she always says that she was adopted in the land of the giants :-) And I am almost 65 years of average height here in the Netherlands (184 cm) and my wife is 178 cm. But seriously: Great video to promote the cargo bikes.

[@srobeck77]

WTF is a cm? this isnt Europe, so fix it.

[@ironmotoadv]

​@srobeck77 no, this is youtube. Deal with it

[@highwayman15]

​@@srobeck77: 1 inch = 2.54 centimetres (cm) = 25.4 millimetres (mm)

[@martinschwartz7342]

Now I would like to see you do a video about the differences between the Urban Arrows and the Riese and Mullers. What are the advantages of one over the other?

[@atomicsmith]

R&M tend to be more performance oriented, UA are more like a minivan, designed for kids and families. The big difference is the foam box on the UA provides a high level of safety and comfort for the kids.

[@DizzyDiddy]

The suspension on R&M models makes a big difference comfort-wise for those traveling in the bucket. We have to be a bit more considerate going over bumps and slow down and try to warn our passengers before big bumps on our Urban Arrow. Suspension would be nice. Better infrastructure would be even better. Depending on the situation in your area suspension might not be as important. We didn't seriously consider R&M because of the price difference, but in retrospect I can see that added value.

[@cadriver2570]

@@DizzyDiddy Have you tried the R&M for extended periods on those roads? FS isn't always a huge difference maker. Lowering tire pressure may help you.

[@DizzyDiddy]

@@cadriver2570 I haven't tried any R&M, so I can't compare. We do keep our tire pressure relatively low. The passengers are largely fine with it and the problem is definitely more with the infrastructure than the bike.

[@BookDancing]

Thanks for the great video. ❤

[@Davin4xe]

I've had a UA for 3 years, had a Babboe before, but the UA is very nice.

[@DaBinChe]

she right, a bike cover does wonders for security

[@elephantintheroom5678]

How do you stop it from being stolen?

[@Certago]

Inspiring, I salute you.

[@bertoverweel6588]

Lots of" Bakfiets moeders", "Cargobike mothers" in the Netherlands take their kids everywhere in city's .

[@vinylducky]

And Dads

[@bertoverweel6588]

@@vinylducky Yep, Dads too but not as much as mams.

[@vinylducky]

@@bertoverweel6588 =))

[@michaelpickles1422]

Inspirational, I've copied friends, sooo good!

[@gustavfn1]

I bought a cargo bike but it’s like having an SUV seriosly. 😅

[@redsorgum]

If you don’t have kids but and you don’t want something that big, there’s always an electric trike. They definitely can carry a decent amount of stuff.

[@victotronics]

Weight on the "bagegedrager": yeah, every Dutch person ignores that. On much less sturdy bikes you pick up your date and she gets to sit behind you with her arms around you. Great start of a date. Try that in a Ford Mustang!

[@Chris-bn1bn]

As I first saw this bike, what I saw a curved solar pannel on top of a wind splitting form underneath. Then I heard cargo, & I said awe. That would be interesting to try. If you mix the two, even better. A hinge & latch to open up the aerodynamic cargo area, cool.

[@extraHERO]

I love cargo bike momma.

[@darryljordan647]

Are there safe cycling classes in NYC?

[@darryljordan647]

Where do you park it?

[@cappallCogadh]

I wonder what the advantages/disadvantages are between a single versus a double front wheel?

[@ChristopherRayMiller]

I have no personal experience with this, but from what I’ve seen in print and video reviews, double front wheel tricycles generally have a problem where if you take turn too fast/tight, the outside wheel can lift potentially leading to you tipping over. I forget which one, but there is one brand where they developed a system where both wheels tilt in the direction of the turn to avoid that problem. Apart from the brand with that innovation, two-wheeler bakfietsen are inherently more stable on turns, just like regular bikes. The one thing that’s different is that with the US Family (and I don’t know if this is true for other front-load cargo bikes as well), you have to get used to making wider angle turns than with regular bikes because the front wheel is so much farther ahead.

[@markifi]

Craig Cornelius a laidback bike report podcast talks about tilting trikes sometimes. the general idea is the same as ChristopherRayMiller wrote here. if you want stability you should go for 4 wheels (quattrovelo, pony4bike are quadracycles) or 2 wheels (yoonit, muli, bullitt), for a stable 3 wheeler there's velotilt, but the rollover resistance of non-tilting 3 wheelers is so poor even for low centre of gravity ones that you have to slow down for corners a lot. this is not first hand experience either, just listening to other people. for tilting ones putting two wheels in the front complicate things further because now you have to account for caster angle, camber angle, scrub radius, toe, bump steering, none of which are applicable to a simple 2 wheel cargo bike. it's a slight digression but if choosing a 2 wheel one, pay extra attention to how they implement the centre stand. it's the most important part of such a bike for comfortable day to day operation in my opinion. some of them make it so you don't have to manually lift the bike because the stand just barely touch the ground on either side, which would not be good on a regular bicycle, but on a heavy cargo bike it's preferable i think. for anyone using such a bike professionally, it's literally a hundred lifts a day they'd have to do if this part isn't thought out.

[@keelferm]

Well played Maddy and partner

[@77flojoe77]

Please, guys, think of the weight of your Bakfiets. It is as heavy as a motorcycle. Learn how to safely maneuver one. In Cologne (Germany), we have initiatives that offer driver trainings for cargo bike drivers. Idea for a business in NY? 😉 Don't get me wrong. Love those bikes, just be sure to drive them safely. Especially when having your kids upfront in the frunk.

[@Sulu-d4r]

Off topic here, but dude please tell me the make and model of your shoes?

[@petergibson7287]

They are a super nice bike, for sure. I'd buy a Big Easy myself, but hey, that's just me.

[@jeffdible8171]

The practical application of car replacement! There can be so much win here. I will also echo what others have said that it will be wide scale acceptance and use with more protected infrastructure. It remains to be seen if there is the personal and political resolve to make it happen.

[@meguzhev]

How to trigger in grown male a cardiac arrest? Add phd to the set. And on serious note, Urban Arrows became vehicle class on its own. I can't imagine living in the Netherlands without.

[@itzdono]

The problem I kept running into using a motorcycle cover in NY was that guys would pee on it.

[@joshbobst1629]

Lol, what? You mean on the seat or handlebars? If not I don't see why that's an issue.

[@itzdono]

@@joshbobst1629 No, on the cover of the bike - on it's side while it's parked with the cover on.

[@DaBinChe]

that's the reason why no one touches it cause got piss all over it, great security

[@joshbobst1629]

@@itzdono The cover? You mean a textile cover you put over it every time you parked it? That does sound gross. But why did you put a cover on it? Was this just where you lived?

[@itzdono]

@@DaBinChe Yeah, but then it's gross to touch without gloves & the bike needs to be washed to get rid of the smell.

[@DrTofutybeast]

My best memories are often riding my bike with my daughter. ... and awesome you have a crash and keep going. Just like me.

[@topbanana3413]

This is the tank of cargo bikes.

[@pauls5745]

Great bikes! The only way it could be more comfy to use is if your cargo bike is a recumbent trike

[@atomicsmith]

You want to be vertical because you need to use your weight to stay the bike at times.

[@garyseckel295]

@@atomicsmith You can be almost vertical and STILL have complete recumbent seat support!!! Back support is huge when aging!

[@TheRealE.B.]

People will spend $7,000 on a used car? Why? You can get a new bike for that!

[@hugobci]

You know something take make drivers CRAZY and MAD towards cyclists? They KNOW cyclists are having fun in situations where they are miserable, like traffic, for example.

[@chow-chihuang4903]

I think that every time I see a driver move over in congested traffic to try to keep me from passing by them on my bike. As the saying goes, misery loves company, and some people love to spread it.

[@cappallCogadh]

Yep, I contend I am a mirror that reflects how miserable they are.

[@bramharms72]

What use is a bike if it can't take a person on the back? 😀

[@xFD2x]

Exactly. Any Dutch bike with a luggage carrier in the back will carry an adult on the back seat.

[@garyseckel295]

Her small size and weight are a HUGE reality to the usefulness of this excellent cargo bike!!!

[@vinylducky]

Just for context the Urban Arrow is larger then the Honda Goldwing, one of the largest motorcycles on sale today. THey are nice but my god it is a gigantic bike

[@vinylducky]

@@GNMi79 I live in the Netherlands and bike parking with the beast is quite a problem.

[@Cl0ckcl0ck]

Someone likes Crime Noir in Maddy's family. :P Nice video. And could you have filmed there with a car?

[@PRH123]

Wow, that’s a very long bike. Not many cargo bikes are that long.

[@jhampongfarhanpiczonlamban9058]

any four-wheel cargo bikes or three-wheels? feels like having four wheels or three-wheel option is much more versatile.

[@atomicsmith]

They’re are several makes of 3-4 wheel cargo bikes available in the Netherlands. Most people choose 2 wheels because they are actually more stable.

[@garyseckel295]

"Black Iron Horse" (I think correct name) is my favorite cargo trike. Twin tires up front, but it is steered by the single rear tire. As simple steering as steering can be! 2WD on the front tires with differential. Has E-assist too! Widest cargo/passenger box because of the rear wheel steering! Great videos on KZbin of both riding and technical details! Cargo/passenger bicycles/tricycles are hugely needed! They literally and hugely make monetary sense to own!

[@xFD2x]

A 2 wheeled bike can ride (with the middle of the bike) on the edge of a path. 3 and 4 wheelers can not. Compare motor cycles and golf carts.

[@garyseckel295]

@@xFD2x Fully agree! SW Ohio has the greatest miles of paved bicycle paths in all of America!!! Factual, not simply my opinion! 70yo senior, limited-mobility handicapper living where best, very scenic paved bicycle path mileage exists!!!

[@markifi]

there's the pony4bike which is a quadracycle, and the quattrovelo a velomobile with lots of storage

[@TheMaevian]

I prefer the Dolly, as I fear that my dog would destroy that foam

[@markifi]

put coroplast in the bottom and if dog scratches the sides, shout at the dog?

[@gungfuriceboy]

can i get 'training wheels for it....for the 'beginner' i am!!

[@xFD2x]

Training wheels would be an extra hazzard. Train with no load in a parking lot.

[@gungfuriceboy]

@@xFD2x ok...i hate 'falling'!!

[@shahbazfawbush]

4:00 "I had an inkling I would have 3 kids" . How does one have this inkling? Our third was a surprise...

[@srobeck77]

$7,000 is a non-starter on a ebike for me. But that said, Ill only a buy a belt drive, not going back to chain drives.

[@DizzyDiddy]

The finances make sense if it helps you replace a car. If it is on top of a vehicle it does seem more pricey. Depending on your use case it could still work out better financially in the long run not to rely on your car as much. There are cheaper options though. We ultimately went with an Urban Arrow and are very happy with that decision, but we were also looking at Bunch Bikes before we got the Urban Arrow. Those have more capacity and are cheaper, but they are less maneuverable as trikes and they are slower. Long tails can be significantly cheaper if those work for your use case too.

[@joshbobst1629]

Average annual cost of car ownership crossed the $10k Rubicon last year. To quote Jason Slaughter, you could buy a new one of these, throw it in the trash at the end of the year, buy a new one, and you'd still be paying significantly less than owning a used car.

[@DizzyDiddy]

@@joshbobst1629 to be fair, that's the average annual cost of owning a new car, not a used one.

[@atomicsmith]

@@DizzyDiddyaverage mileage in the US costs $2400 in gas. Insurance at $150/m is $1800. That’s $4200 before maintenance, registration, parking,tolls etc. Even if you’re a very frugal used car driver, a cargo bike would easily pay for itself in 2 years.

[@garyseckel295]

@@atomicsmith Then add in the LOWEST or NO COST Family Fun! OH.., YEAH!!!

[@hairypotter259]

That public transit being inefficient comment was a little bit silly

[@jeffmpvd7689]

As someone who was just in a serious bike crash, I HOPE she never has that happen!

[@WHALEx3]

Not him calling her petite

[@seanreynolds6876]

Carries 5 kids? Sounds like if mum and dad have one each then it would be perfect for a Catholic family!

[@TheSnowLeopard]

It's a nice bike but it is extremely expensive and unaffordable for many people.

[@atomicsmith]

As they said, a car costs 10k a year just in fuel, insurance and maintenance (not including paid parking in an urban area). Even an MTA pass in NYC for a mom and 3 kids would be $6000/year. This bike is $8000 but will last decades. Sounds cheap to me.

[@markifi]

of course it's expensive it's like a top of the line long john cargo bike. you can buy the iumentum for less than half, but you won't have the electric assist or the cool accessories

[@markifi]

bakfietsnl bikes may be even cheaper, and under that there're used bakfietsnl bikes. these appeal a lot less than this thing though

[@Torsan1977]

I wish these bikes weren't so expensive. I bought my cargobike for $3000 (new). What could make urban arrow and the likes become cheaper?

[@xFD2x]

Isn't that the same difference as between a Chevvy and a BMW ?

[@Torsan1977]

@@xFD2x idk 🙂

[@garyseckel295]

@@markifi My favorite, the "Black Iron Horse" is Most Simple Rear Wheel Steering, 2WD with differential, E-assist, widest cargo and children box that I prefer to be up front!

[@garyseckel295]

@@markifi Falling over at "test rides" seriously?! Videos exist of PROPER riding of the most simple engineering and the tightest steering circle. Users spending money RARELY tip over any expensive purchase!!! Get realistic please... If you bought one, you would NOT tip it over either!!!

[@garyseckel295]

@@markifi I sure would love to have a Black Iron Horse!

[@ChungKi-ql2re]

This thing cost more than a used Toyota Corolla 😂

[@thrallingFRglory]

I would’ve bought an Urban Arrow had it not had that terrible Bosch motor. It’s a proprietary system that keeps you locked in.

[@ageoflove1980]

wat is dit voor onzin reclame afval... er zijn heel veel merken en types van dit soort fietsen verkrijgbaar

[@jotham123]

For cargo bike front loaders the only thing available near me is reise muller, or larry-vs-harry. That's all. Very sad. Many people are not even aware this kind of bike exists.

[@philipsimmonds1103]

I understand this bike in Holland.. but American infrastructure.. no way in Hell are my Kids in front ..

[@philipsimmonds1103]

@GNMi79 I guess uve never experienced the right turn in North America

[@philipsimmonds1103]

@GNMi79 the right turn is a weekly event .. flybys not so much .. those bikes are made for Amsterdam.. in a bike lane away from cars on the canal..

[@philipsimmonds1103]

@@GNMi79 gotcha .. I'm in the city of Toronto.. running the gauntlet.. daily

[@texastomek1]

I can't with this one. I love your channel but I had to call it quits 2 minutes in after listening to her twice brag about her summers in the Netherlands. Get a grip, lady! I'll tune in for the next one.

[@lexburen5932]

aww someone is jaleous and frustrated. i would be to if i lived in a car infested country with nothing else then just cars. :)

[@cadriver2570]

It’s pretty relevant to the story.

[@texastomek1]

@@cadriver2570 it really isn't.

[@texastomek1]

@@lexburen5932 I have nothing against the Netherlands... My issue is with her braggy demeanor.

[@GreggMPlahy]

Maddy broke the sound barrier talking 1,000 words a minute.

[@Fjodor.Tabularasa]

It's a cargo motorbike, which has nothing to do with bicycling

[@drizzleprism5826]

Nope. It’s an ebike, dude

[@cadriver2570]

Huh?

[@Fjodor.Tabularasa]

​​E bike= motor bike. It has an ENGINE, boy. ​@@drizzleprism5826

[@atomicsmith]

I’m amazed you had a hand free to type this since it’s normally picking Lycra out of your crack.

[@ChristopherRayMiller]

I see your tabula is still very much rasa. This is not one of those e-bikes that are faddish and not entirely necessary. It’s much heavier than a normal bike both because of the extra frame out front and because of the added bucket and all it can carry. This makes an electric motor a necessity not only for ordinary travel but especially for riding up hills and inclines, especially if you are a small person like Maddy or someone who for whatever reason otherwise is not in top athletic form. These are apparently the best-selling cargo bikes in the Netherlands, where cargo bikes have ling been part of the landscape, and in a country that for five decades now has not needed any lectures about biking from anybody else.