Why I Traded My RAM 2500 For A RAM 3500 - Know Your Capacities Before You Buy!!! -CAT Scale Weigh In

[@JB_WhoWork]

GVWR is Gross Combined Vehicle Weight - Not CARRYING!!!

[@overloadn_3681]

JB Reviews what’s the name of the type beat in the beginning of the video?

[@JB_WhoWork]

Unfortunately when I saved all these songs I renamed them and placed them in folders on my computer. They are all free songs from KZbin so I’m sure you can find them!

[@overloadn_3681]

JB Reviews dang its alr like I remember the song before somewhere but I forgot what’s it called either way it’s gonna be hard to find it lol btw you got a sub

[@JB_WhoWork]

Joventux _ thanks bro!

[@josephstevens1749]

Y is the gcvwr not listed on every truck!

[@GA-250RX]

Great vid bud! Just learning this stuff before we buy a big truck. Thx

[@oldcountryman2795]

This is spot on advice. If you can’t afford a 1 ton truck, you can’t afford a fifth wheel trailer. Accept that and buy something you can tow. And really, I would want a dually. Think about trying to control a 20,000 pound rig at 70mph when a back tire blows out.

[@JB_WhoWork]

💯! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾

[@debpritjay]

Thanks so much for doing this video we have that exact same truck the 2500 2018 Cummins we bought our truck for our Hot Shot business and so we want to use it to buy our travel trailer now that we watch this video we were struggling with should we get a fifth wheel but the numbers don’t lie, I agree with you totally and so we’re gonna stick with the travel trailer that way we don’t have to upgrade our truck thanks so much for not only given the numbers, but doing the math to show the numbers and keeping it simple.😊great video!

[@rulasx75]

Thank you, very useful information!

[@commontater4920]

Good information and well-explained.

[@diggerj9782]

PROBABLY ONE OF YOUR BETTER VIDEOS

[@gwendolynbrown9386]

Yes Very Helpful Video👍👍

[@TheRannMann]

Thanks for the info

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

So many different variables to consider. Thanks for the video. Also, to my knolledge, the only difference between a 2500 dodge and a 3500 Dogde is the helper spring on the back. Everything else is the same.

[@fu4616]

Just bought my first towing rig... a Ram 3500 with the intent of getting a TT or 5th-wheel later on. This helps me understand the limits so much better. Thank you!

[@bobbydeary9654]

Great video

[@BigDThatsMe]

Pay attention people. This guy knows what he is talking about. Know the numbers. Know the axle ratings, tire ratings, payload capacity, payload weight, towing capacity. If you go over on any of them, you are not safe. It's refreshing to see someone who gets it, because so many don't.

[@donausmus4281]

My 6.4 2500 Tradesman long bed 4x2 has a 3300 lb payload. I will enhance with airbags and use it for hauling a Lance camper. With the 3.73 rear end this thing gets better mileage than my Tundra did. A diesel 4x4 in a 2500 and coil springs won't haul a load. The Cummins takes away a grand in payload.

[@kwfannin]

Good Job of explaining. Don't dare take the word of a truck or rv salesmen. Some know what they are talking about. Some don't. Do your own math.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Yup, learned the hard way when I was looking for a truck 👍🏾

[@rogerarceo1040]

Man wish I would've seen this before buying my 2500

[@victorrafa6540]

One of the best described towing limits and explanation I have ever seen on the internet. Great job.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks 👍🏾

[@denistaramasso9724]

The fuel was bought in Santa rosa Northern .California

[@petrnikityuk9701]

Thank you 😀👍

[@FlyingAceAV8B]

Apparently in commifornia, where everything either causes cancer or “Covid”, anything above 10k# requires a commercial license.

[@BigBoyToyzz]

The only difference from the factory between a 2500 and 3500 is that the 3500 has leafs in the rear and the 2500 has coils. Everything else is exactly the same. Throw some bags on a 2500 and you more than make up the difference of the 3500. The reason most do this is because in a lot of states if you have a 1 ton truck you're subject to commercial regulations and taxes for weight. Also they get you on added taxes for vehicle registration. 3/4 ton trucks are exempt.

[@JB_WhoWork]

xelvic the only reason why I did this video is just to bring awareness to the capacities. I agree with you, on paper, the 2500/3500 aren’t that much different and my 1 ton squats a little more than my 3/4 ton did. But if you want to be legal the 1 ton will ensure that more than the 3/4 ton will when deciding on fivers. Air bag manufactures still tell you to stay within your limits too. Thanks for watching!

[@tonypiwko3634]

@xelvic. Airbags do NOT increase payload capacity. Your insurance company will highly disagree with you if you have an accident, nor will DOT inspection stations that pop up in the midwest. They dont care if you are commercial or pulling on your own. ALL vehicles with something in tow or RVs are required to stop. If you are over capacity on the sticker, you are overloaded. Period. The law is the law. There is no shortcut around it unless you get that door sticker recertified, and no one does that. You might "think" airbags "fix" it, but just get pulled over and ask them while they are writing you the ticket.

[@BigBoyToyzz]

@@tonypiwko3634 I get all the legal reasons why the government wants to control everything. And tax the h*** out of us. But notwithstanding those reasons, please explain to me how airbags do not increase payload? I would like to know the physics behind your answer.

[@tonypiwko3634]

@@BigBoyToyzz quiet simple. Go on the truck manufacturer's website and look at the factory installed airbag systems. A ton of other options will tell you how adding or removing items will impact towing capacity. Airbags do not. They are stickly a leveling tool. There are a ton of other factors involved such as frame, suspension shackles, axles, etc. Will throwing airbags on the travel trailer help those 7,000 lbs axles hold the load better? If so, everyone would be airbagging them up vs upgrading to 8,000 lbs. Overloading a trailer will cause that axle to bend and fail. Same for the trucks. Your statement that a 2500 is same as 3500 sans leaf pack simply isn't true. The frames on a 3500 are reinforced differently, the engine and transmission mounts are different, and the suspension mounts are heavier. Airbags are intended to level a truck back out after squat. That load is still displaced to the shackle mounts, wheel bearings, differential, etc. There are HUNDREDS of articles and vlogs out there documenting this. Don't just arbitrarily blame the govt. on this one. The manufacturers are the ones standing behind those numbers. If they say it is rated to XYZ, that is what they are comfortable backing. If there is an airbag maker out their who wants to pay all your legal bills when issues arise, i would highly advise reading all the fine print, but I haven't heard of any that will put their business on the line over it.

[@BigMilkTank]

The best difference is the high output engine and aisin trans

[@stephencraig5889]

I love the Ram 2500 interior. But this is the reason why I went with GMC 2500 At4 Duramax. My max payload on that truck is 3100 lBs, so it can tow my lite 5th wheel which has a 1460 pin weight safely and I was able to safely with a 2500 instead of going up to a 3500. Wish Ford and Dodge would up their gross vehicle weight. I had to go with the truck that could tow the camper i wanted.

[@denistaramasso9724]

My 2021 3500 4x4 single rear wheel long bed is 8660 with me 184 lb generator and fifth wheel. My front axel is 6000 rear axel 7000 My gvwr is 12300 lbs .my load capacity is 3640

[@carlospalaminos2755]

As a commercial licensed driver, this by far is the smartest thing I’ve heard from an R.V. owner. Not many people understand or follow these rules

[@JB_WhoWork]

Carlos Palaminos thanks! RV/Auto Dealer’s don’t understand the capacities and will dodge the questions about limits in exchange to move a unit. Not all but some are just there to make money but it still falls back on the consumer...

[@carlospalaminos2755]

I have always been of the mindset more is better (towing capacity) within reason that is. But go shopping for the R.V. that you want and then buy the truck that can handle it with extra space to play with the numbers.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Carlos Palaminos yup! RV first then buy your truck! How long have you been driving commercially and what do you use?

[@knightwing4]

JB Reviews - Good move. As a commercial truck drive I can tell you, if you had an accident while overloaded that’s exactly why what they would do.

[@baileysconstruction7898]

As a commercial driver you should know manufacturer specs are meaningless and what really matters are axle and tire ratings!

[@4rember]

I am a new menber in your channel

[@nathanbaylot2754]

From what I've heard from state troopers, there is no easy way to check payload and very rarely do they make you go to the weigh station. They go off of axle ratings anyway. They care more about the tires and axle weight. These 10,000 lb GVWR is for marketing purposes so they don't move up in truck class. They would have to strip down your truck from trailer and get multiple readings to give you a ticket. The truck is safe to pull that trailer, it's just the marketing that is in the way.

[@smiley3303]

The tow ratings on the 2500 Ram is intentionally neutered. Legally you cannot tow as much as you want but ability wise you certainly can. The numbers are dumb we all know it. The gasser can’t get out of its own way but legally able to have more payload. It also doesn’t have an exhaust brake. You can never change your numbers no matter what mods you do that is what sucks. You are forced into a 3500 due to these numbers. GM you can option up a 2500 to be 3500 territory legally.

[@billcashman4006]

Man, respect. It’s nice to hear younger generations being responsible. Good job on learning and paying attention. Most people think that if it will hold a trailer up, they are good to go. I like how you are thinking about consequences and what that could mean to your family. I just saw your video where you hooked up with you goose box and I was thinking that is not enough truck legally. Then I saw this video. Good call.

[@ryangoede]

I love how passionate you are about getting this information to others who may benefit. Good info and great advice my brother!

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks 👍🏾!

[@kevinhaas7049]

This video just confirmed everything I figured out just before I almost bought a 2022 Ram Laramie 6.7L Diesel. I thought I wasn't seeing the numbers correctly. The dealers will tell you what you want to hear, but Payload was the one thing that kept coming back as an issue. I kept seeing low to mid 2000 lb ratings and finally searched and found a video for mid-size 5th wheels. Mid-Size 5th wheels are in the payload (hitch) range of 2350 lbs. Then add family, dogs and e-bikes and I am at 3200 lbs. Well I knew that didn't compute or I must have been missing something. JB hit every point that you need to understand to safely tow/carry a 5th wheel. I was fine if I bought a travel trailer but if I decided on buying a 5th wheel I was not. Thank you JB! Great video!

[@Reeltinyphish]

So glad I found this video. We are looking at trucks and 5th wheels and I was under the impression the Ram 2500 6.7 could handle it just fine. Thank you for this info.

[@daviddouglass7662]

With the 2500, you're at the limit with most 5th wheels.

[@denistaramasso9724]

On one of your videos 📹 you were talking about fuel usage and price. 4-9-2022 I paid $6.54 per gallon. I put 22.6 gallons in my ram . The cost was $148 . Change.

[@JB_WhoWork]

That’s insane… this is out of control!

[@vonnie3922]

New Subscriber

[@wr.3428]

This was very helpful, thank you for taking the time to break it down!👍🏻

[@jeffnupen2471]

Really well done video and all the points you made are exactly the reason I just dumped our 3/4 ton hemi for a 1 ton diesel Ram. We are going to a fifth wheel in the future and, like you, don't want to be under trucked and over weight. More dealerships are getting truck guys in sales who understand towing and weight capacities. Its encouraging but the consumer ultimately is responsible for their decision. Travel safely!!

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks! It’s definitely a grey area for sure and most people don’t understand this. Thanks for sharing too!

[@mIkEy-er9fo]

Great info.. GCVWR, GAWR, GVWR, Max Cargo Capacity and Max Tow Capacity are all info a truck buyer need to consider. My 2018 Ram 2500 with the 6.4L Hemi has a 3103 Lbs max payload capacity. That is why I bought it because I needed the cargo capacity vs the towing capacity for my 2050Lb Slide-in Truck Camper. Diesels can tow more but gas truck can carry more as general rule within the same class and Trims. One reason why I traded in my 2015 Ram 2500 Bighorn with the 6.7L Cummins as it only had a 2300 max cargo capacity. The simple math was 2050lbs + Me at 260lbs + 1 Pb&J sandwich and like 1 pair of dirty under ware = I was overweight! Never mind my wife, teen Kiddo and a 85 lb German Shepherd AND OTHER GEAR . You have earned a subscriber due to you having and sharing some common sense with "The Peoples". :) Also Capacity doesn't me Capability as one must balance the equation because GVWR, GAWR and GVWR are all finite! I am actually considering bumping up to a Ram 3500 with a 6.7L Cummins to get both more cargo and towing capacities for increasing my safety margin a bit. Also, I put in Timbrem Bump stops in the rear to reduce the rear squat and also sway ... but this NEVER doesn't increase rear GAWR...... EVER!!! Some people just don't get that.

[@shanelilman3780]

Hmmm our 2017 laramie 4x4 ram 2500 has a number of "2142 lbs"

[@waltaldridge2315]

Another good video with good info. Most people with 2500s pulling fifth wheels are over their payload but refuse to admit it. They think since they have a diesel, it doesn't matter. That's not gonna hold up in court if things go bad. Also, can't tell you how many people in forums have told me they don't need a non-cdl license in the state of Texas. I've had to show them it's the law, any combination of truck and trailer GVWR that exceeds 26000 pounds requires a Class A non-cdl license. Not actual weight. GVWR of both combined. That's something you don't want to find out you need the wrong way.

[@dawnr6577]

Well, it doesn't help that Ram fluffs the towing and payload on their trucks and they encourage their customers to ignore the stickers.

[@mike_adams]

In this example his cougar’s GVWR is 13900#. Adding a Ford F-350 with tow package GVWR of 12400# .. this example even with a single rear wheel (13900+12400) = 26300#. So even a single rear wheel with this 5th in some states would require a Class A non-cdl. Sounds to me that the respective departments of weight and standards offices are adopting the “leftist” approach of tax and frisk as a money grab to fill state budget gaps. Not to mention .. once you have a class A license and the insurance company picks up on that class change, many insurance companies impose higher premiums based license class types.

[@gwwj]

10,000 lbs is an artificially low number. Around here, it's only important for tax purposes. The truck has much more capability than that. On 3/4 ton trucks, on ANY truck really, I am much more concerned with the GAWR.

[@zetnompainting]

Great video JB I just bought a 3500 mega cab dually limited edition and night edition soo happy

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thank You!

[@BigDThatsMe]

Dude! You are singing my song!!!! I had that exact 2500 (mine was black). My heart dropped when I ran the numbers and saw it wouldn't do the job. Thank God Larry H Miller agreed to cancel the contract, and let us get Rambo.

[@jacobbiltz6724]

What stinks is if you want a new Ram 3500 crew 4x4 8' bed or mega cab 4x4, the gvwr is 12,300. Pair that will a GN implement trailer that's standard 14,000 lbs it will put you over the 26k weight range and its kinda ridiculous that you need the same CDL as a semi driver carrying 3x the weight....

[@ericfranco6336]

Very helpful video -- thanks for all the great work you do!

[@williamquestmagic]

GREAT SHOW...so informative for a newbie to the towing game safely. Thank you so big. bill in Florida

[@PaulKeepsItReal]

Great video! Answered a lot of my questions. Thank you, JB!

[@gunrightsfan]

Very good info! Lot people don't know about all the weights. RV dealers will pretty much lie to make that sale or won't tell you. I am a commercial license holder an have been for 20+ years. Very good video. How about a video of a Ram Cummins Tradesman dually numbers.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Jim Sjostrom thanks and you are correct about dealers. Their main Goal is to help you buy something. I will keep my eye out for one and will do a run down of the numbers!

[@charlescavner7747]

You are a smart man - and I love the way that you explained it with simple math. I myself got tired of the back and forth between half ton towable versus something heavier, so bought a Ram 3500 SRW that can tow anything I may buy and keep me within the weight ratings. But kudos to you sir for helping people out - this sh*t is VERY important!

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks Charles 👍🏾

[@snakegs4203]

You’re not talking about tongue weight when regarding payload.

[@brucefilbert5758]

Everything you have said is the reason why I traded my 2500 for a 3500. No since in the risk. Even if someone pulls out in front of you and you cant stop they can put it back on you for being overloaded

[@gabrieljimenez2249]

Can’t thank you enough for taking the time to put together such an informed video. I’ve always been confused with these numbers, but you present your information in such an easy-to-understand format that many can understand. I believe your efforts have helped save lives. Thanks again, and God Bless...

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks Gabriel! My goal is to help people make better decision and save money so I appreciate your comment! Blessings to you as well 🙏🏽

[@getnautical9579]

High package trucks have a low payload. A 2021 ram bighorn 2500 gas had 2700lb payload

[@JB_WhoWork]

That’s still kind of low even for a Big Horn. Is that a megacab?

[@getnautical9579]

@@JB_WhoWork no that’s gas big horn crew. With 4.10 gear toes 17k with 2700-2900 payload. Trucks also 10k now not 8k. Perfect though for my 33’ tt

[@SLICKW1993]

It amazes me how many people on the Cummins forums think it’s okay to pull a heavy 5th wheel with a 3/4 🤦‍♂️ It might pull it but stopping it’s another story.

[@JB_WhoWork]

It will stop it the same but exceeding your capacities is not the best idea especially if you cause an accident 👍🏾

[@SLICKW1993]

@@JB_WhoWork I've never towed with a 3/4 ton so I have no idea! I'm on my second dually LOL

[@JB_WhoWork]

💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 Smart, rather have more truck vs not enough 👍🏾

[@Cotton088]

A friend of mine has an F-350 and I have an F-250. He has a higher payload but the difference is an overload spring. Yes he has a Dana axle, which in the real world won’t make a difference for a private owner. I have 3:31 gearing and he has 3:55 gearing. I had a 2019 F-150 Ecoboost that was about 200 lbs payload less than my 2020 F-250 with the 6.7. So how can that be? Why is the F-250 maxed at the arbitrary 10,000 lbs?

[@NickBeek]

I found this video very informative. Thanks for breaking that down for us.

[@cvrob266]

Great video. This helped me figure out what truck to buy. Thank you!

[@jeffreyturner6262]

I feel like Ram and Ford have the ability to with their 3/4 ton diesel trucks, do what GM did and change the 2500/250 gvwr to 11400#

[@tyrrellroach5872]

So question what’s the Gvwr on that 1 ton. If it 13k or higher you now need a cdl to pull your trailer. B cause the rating of the truck is 13k and the trailer is 14k you are now at a 27k pound rating it doesn’t matter how much you actually weigh here

[@donfrederick4825]

Well done video and a wealth of information. Traded off my 2018 Ram 2500 for 2019 Ram 3500 DRW Laramie just for the piece of mind and safety of my family and others on the road.

[@JB_WhoWork]

That’s great, nothing wrong with having the biggest and baddest truck on the road 👍🏾

[@jarretbyrd1]

BRAVO! Great info & explanation! Thanks you - JB

[@JB_WhoWork]

J B - thanks! Glad you found it helpful!

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Great info! Every new RV'er should watch this! Very good explanation. Thank you. It is time for our government to allow the manufacturers to increase the GVWR's.

[@jimhawks8717]

So clearly explained! thank you

[@gnevala]

Good information sir. Thank you.

[@MJADoingStuff]

Very informative I finally got the answer I was looking for thanks.

[@JB_WhoWork]

No problem 👍🏾

[@TheTravelingLarsons]

Great video! This video popped up on my feed, thought I’d watch, since I’ll be doing a video on our RAM 2500 soon. You explained this perfectly. We’re a fulltime RV family with a KZbin channel. We are now subscribed to your channel.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thank you and I will check you out also!

[@mikesnyder465]

Excellent video and crisp, clear explanation.

[@robehlers5744]

Change the rear springs that's the only difference between 2500 and 3500

[@JB_WhoWork]

Doesn’t change the GVWR which is more important than leaf springs

[@bigtrucklittlerv7969]

Pin weight is truck GVW with trailer 5,040 + 5,600 = 10,640 minus 8,460 truck alone = 2,180lb. pin weight. Trailer is under GVWR 10,080 + 2,180 = 12,260lbs. Light pin weight at 17.7%

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks for clarifying this! I thought the pin weight was just for rear axles!!!

[@bigtrucklittlerv7969]

@@JB_WhoWork Just think about it. Pin weight is total actual weight the king pin applies to the truck when hitched. That extra weight on the rear axle is weight from the front due to squatting.

[@beardedautomedia2261]

What a great explanation and lesson on this! Saving some coin is not worth risking safety!

[@HolyBibleOpen]

Excellent explanation. Thank you.

[@oldfatdude8505]

Not knocking you since it's always better to have more, however, your fully loaded weights on each axle were still well under each axle rating so you were absolutely fine. Also keep in mind that manufacturers will base payload ratings off of 10K GVWR simply because some states will require a CDL in order to drive a vehicle with a GVWR over 10K. In other words, take 10K and subtract your vehicle weight from the factory and you will get your "payload" number simply to fall at exactly 10K pounds, meanwhile, as long as you are not overloading the axle's you will be perfectly fine. The 10K number is "somewhat" arbitrary if you are not one of these morons who are hooking 15K pound 5th wheels up to an F-150. In any case, upgrading to the 3500 is still a good move since more is better.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Some states allow you to go by the axles/26001# GCWR but I’m not sure which states they are so it’s better to stay within the limits of the GVWR. This is what I believe but everyone should do their own research 👍🏾

[@oldfatdude8505]

@@JB_WhoWork Thanks JB, I was not aware of that, however, my only real point was that payload numbers are "somewhat" arbitrary on these trucks due to typical government regulations and while I would always side with caution and tow safely, the manufacturers payload numbers are not even close to my main concern. Tow smart & if you can afford it then by all means, go up one size, but if the numbers work out then they work out, regardless of the payload numbers that manufacturers have to stick with due to various regs. IMO, any rational person who is truly trying to be safe will know if their truck is overloaded, whether that be due to severe squat or inability to stop the load reasonably. I give the OP credit for pulling the trigger on a 3500 so certainly not busting his balls (actually considering the same myself), however, his 2500 was perfectly capable of safely handling his trailer IMO.

[@oldfatdude8505]

I guess I have had one too many tonight since I didn't realize @JB Reviews is the OP. In any case, keep on trucking & I hope you are enjoying the 3500.

[@SteveVitkovsky]

Consider what I have learned from researching snowplows for a 3500: the diesel engine is more than 1,000 pounds heavier than the V8 gasoline engine. The implications of this difference is almost counterintuitively surprising. When I plugged some values into the link I provided, the result shows that the weight of the engine itself (a product of whether it is diesel versus gasoline) is a pivotal factor: even though the 6.4L gas engine truck has a lower front axle rating, a gas engine will allow you to implement a wider, heavier snowplow than a 6.7L diesel that has a higher front axle rating. Here is the link where the user simply inputs the truck characteristics and the program does the calculation. When you get to the 2nd screen, click on the Mount / Blade Type dropdown menu and look at the vast types of wider plows available for the gas engine configuration versus with the narrower choices for performing the same exercise for a diesel engine. ematch.fisherplows.com/vehinfo.asp?_ga=2.125224141.654281056.1561674187-11004593.1561674187

[@JB_WhoWork]

SteveVitkovsky that’s interesting. The front GAWR for a gas 1 ton is the same for a diesel which is 6000#’s. Diesel is about 850#’s heavier then gas so I’m wondering if that’s why there are more options. On 3/4 tons the front axle is higher on diesel then gas but only by 500#’s.

[@genecappelletti6691]

Thank you, finally someone speaking truth.

[@gslife1]

You earned my subscription with this awesome video. 😎👍🏼

[@JB_WhoWork]

Awesome 😊!

[@russvegaspd]

Mine as well

[@JB_WhoWork]

RussVegas PD thanks!

[@joesainato8051]

Great video, great explanation. I commented on another video about skipping 3/4 ton trucks all together. My F-150 payload is 1933 so with your old rig we were virtually identical. It’s a shame cuz there are a lot more 3/4 tons pulling big campers or 5th wheels than 1 tons and they cost about the same. Towing capacity is the biggest best marketing strategy ever. It’s gets people to buy half tons and then 6 months or a year later once they have towed and start learning the numbers they are trading up to a larger truck. What is funny is they usually make the same mistake again and go to 3/4 ton but most wont do what you did and trade up again. Payload is the key. Most are going to run out of payload way before they reach their towing capacity. My biggest pet peeve is a 1/2 ton pulling a 5th wheel. I will stop on my rant. Keep up the great info. I hit the subscribe button because you are knowledgeable, safe, and care about your family. Enjoy the camping season

[@patriotsforegolf9859]

Also a lot of this depends on your truck options: 4x4? Totally decreases payload, running boards, tonneau covers, extras extras extra- there are useless 2500/250s and great ones - so why get all the crap you don’t need that will limit your capabilities

[@dawnr6577]

So the DMV is investigating since nothing is matching up . The place we took the truck to get correct information thinks that what they are claiming is payload is actually carrying capacity. They told us that carrying capacity is without any fluids and payload is with all fluids. The numbers match up better when they calculated the numbers that way. My MCO says 2500lbs. When they subtracted the approximate weight of all fluids, it was closer to the 1920 we came up with. The only other problem is that the weight of the truck they are claiming is no where close.

[@thedcbroker7264]

Maryland D.O.T. Is tough out there. Keep your numbers with you, it will come in handy!!

[@lifeisgood141]

I used to own an old 2007 Ram 1500 5.7L Big Horn half-ton 4X4. The interior sucks and it was under power. Now I drive a 2018 Chevy half-ton 1500 LT Z71 4X4, but I am going to sell it and buy a one-ton truck with gas (not need diesel for what I tow. My trailer only weighs 5000-5500 lbs loaded). Would you recommend a 2020/2021 3500 6.4L (Tradesman) 4X4? I don't want a 3/4 ton, and I don't need a diesel.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Definitely! It will most likely be a factory order as that truck tends to be a unicorn at least where I live 👍🏾

[@edwilson9243]

Smart man, I had the same battle but with a slide in truck camper. A northern lite truck camper dry weight 2700 lbs. I first had a 2016 GMC Denail crew cab 2500 duramax. Not knowing anything about payloads and to be honest the RV dealer was only interested in the RV sale, I went off down the road with a truck payload of only 1450 lbs. I was 1700 lbs over weight with water fuel and propane. The truck handled the camper with ease but my mind wasn't willing to accept the liability if I had been involved in a crash and someone got killed. I traded the GMC and bought a 2018 Ram 3500 Diesel and I was just within the payload with that truck. Now driving a new Dually with plenty of payload. I could never go back to a gas V8 with price of fuel on long hauls, I'd be sick to my stomach. Great advise on this video!!

[@JB_WhoWork]

Hey man that’s great!!! I will always cheer you on to stay within your limits just for peace of mind alone! Slide in RV’s are the toughest because of sheer size... You almost expect them to work on any HD truck but not the case! I agree with you but some guys that only take a RV out 3X a year could save on sticker shock and maintenance to gain more Payload to stay within the limits. Thanks for watching!

[@Jroberts081]

Great video!! Thanks

[@JB_WhoWork]

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[@dondartt684]

I am close to being overweight, truck 8000lbs full tank, wife, dog, hitch. Trailer 8300lbs dry weight 11500lbs max, 1700 is what is left to max out the trucks 9700lbs. I was thinking about putting the spare for the truck on the 5 th wheel. That would take off 90 lbs, now if the front goes down 120 lbs that’s 210lbs. I am legally within the limits of my truck, if we pack lite. This is the first time any video told me the front goes down in weight it makes sense. Thank you.

[@mikesifuentes80]

Andersen Ultimate 5th Wheel Hitch weighs only 40 lbs get rid of that heavy hitch. Knock off 110 lbs. I have towed 12k miles with it and its outstanding...

[@Colonel1Bravo]

Very good job on this JB. This may save people some heartache, some money, a bad decision, or even a life. A very important topic from a good teacher. The 2018 Laramie 3500 w/ aisin I told you that I bought last Thursday has a payload of 3780 and a tow rating of 16910. When I looked up the VIN and saw that I was kind of disappointed in the tow rating, BUT now I feel better. I still haven't got my head around all of it, but I think the payload is aligned with my goals for the truck. Great job.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks Man! 16910 is still more then enough considering the payload. I am planning on doing a similar video for my 3500 but time is not on my side. Thank God you bought a 3500 and not a 2500 because Payload is closer to 1500#...

[@Colonel1Bravo]

JB Reviews yea, at first the only reason that I did want the 3500 is due to the aisin transmission, and I really feel that I would probably rather have leafs over coils

[@barbaragall4817]

I live in PA the law is a combination of truck and trailer, if trailer is over 10,001 lb or gross truck and trailer is over 26,001 lb you need a non commerical CDL. I was told this went into effect in 2015. I got permit for $5.00 test was free, but you need a a legal driver to take you to the test site. Not all states are the same. But your video is great!

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks for sharing this!

[@guacamoleweiner69]

It amazes me that people buy trailers that are either close to or the exact vehicle weight limit empty

[@andyhanlon6433]

Thanks for sharing!

[@danielbondarchuk1553]

Can someone explain to me the difference between a 3500 and a 2500?

[@JB_WhoWork]

Just did a video on it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ6TlaBod8dkoJo

[@michaelstevens655]

Thanks brother, we are on the same page.

[@JB_WhoWork]

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[@snakegs4203]

Tongue weight for a 6500 lb bumper pull trailer is about 500-700 lbs max

[@driftersden4439]

Good info you never want the trailer to over power the truck. I've towed with gas engines they get the job done, but the diesel is another animal, feel a lot more comfortable with the diesel. Keep them coming

[@JB_WhoWork]

I agree! I towed a heavy bumper pull cargo trailer (about 14000#’s) and ever since then I decided I would always buy diesel. Having that exhaust break alone sells it for me, thanks for watching!

[@rainman629723]

Great video! We just upgraded to a 11,200# 5th wheel with a pin weight of just over 2,000#'s. We traded our Ram 2500 for a 3500 today for this exact reason. My total payload on the 2500 was only 1976#'s.

[@JB_WhoWork]

That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing 👍🏾

[@vincew.6905]

Was your 2500 a diesel? David

[@Wireman134]

This shows not even a 2,100lb. pin weight is within the payload capacities of most Diesel equipped 3/4 ton trucks made before 2019.

[@daviddouglass7662]

Had a Ram 2500 with Cummins. My 5th wheel had a 2100 lb. Pin at when empty. With cargo both in trailer and truck, I was 1100 lb over on Payload. Switched to a 3500 for this reason.

[@joshbryant6544]

If you feel like you have an app from 2500 to 450 then you’re gonna want in fifth wheel toy hauler no more than 42 foot

[@kennethgoss8962]

Great info.

[@SecretAgentWorm]

Great and informative video, thank you! Only thing I’d suggest is to highlight any numbers you would like viewers to see. I had to quickly find what you were referring to before having to pause it and go back. Again, very informative, thank you.

[@cook6052]

JB, great information. First class. I have a 2018 Laramie 6.4 4X4. I currently tow a 35' couples TT, 3 slide hitch. Am very close to purchasing a 35 foot Alpine. Your info has been very helpful.

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks Barry! Alpine is an amazing brand and I’m referencing what I remember seeing 3 years ago! Stay safe 👍🏾

[@toofastnobrakes]

If at all possible try to balance your trailer as best you can. Your tongue weight should always sit 10-15% of your trailers total weight. 10,000ib trailer should have a 1000-1500ib tongue weight to be considered "balanced". Just a little advice for everyone Edit: if you must put the weight on only the front or the back, put it on the front. If you overweigh the back you will fishtail like crazy

[@JB_WhoWork]

Mike Hunt thanks for the info! I would recommend using 19%-22% for fifth wheels just because floor plans can effect pin weight like front living, front bath, and front kitchen. Another factor is how the manufactures place items in the underbody. Travel trailers tend to come in around 10-15% for tongue weight. Thanks for watching!

[@silvercummins3558]

Good video only thing I can add 2500 and 3500 single raer have the same towing capacity just payload. But!!! They are really same truck same same breaks same axles little bit different on rear suspension on different years. Only reallything differential payload you are right hears the catch what you pay on dmv fees what different on 2500 vs 3500 single rear and yes manufacturers say that has more pay load real world they are same truck in way. I pull 40foot toy hauler with 2500 trailer weigh 17k fully loaded rear drive axle weights 6300 not over loading my drives great on my steer but I know I should have dually but that's just payload I'm over of 2500 truck. That's my two cents

[@misatzu]

That was near impossible to read through ...

[@AsianNIGMA]

Not true, 3500 beats it in every category, more hp, more torque, and the 3500 is gonna handle heavier weights easier and handle more gooseneck

[@eyeout]

If you get into an accident and you’re over your payload capacity, good luck getting your insurance to pay for it. A 40’ hauler weighing 17k is not meant for a 2500. That’s why they make a 3500. If a 2500 was just as good, no one would buy the 3500. Everyone would just save money and get the cheaper truck.

[@silvercummins3558]

I hope your still talking about srw 2500 vs 3500 they are the same trucks. Just different rear suspension on 2014 and newer, Axles, brakes, tires are the same! So think about this really hard the hot shot guys or the five car haulers are pulling more then what a 3500 drw truck on manufactured specs then they put a 40k or 35k sticker on the side then they are legal so don’t quote me dot cares about being over on your tires max weight . Just think about a two axle or three axle big rig. They pull same combined weight just different trailers.

[@eyeout]

Silver Cummins prove to me that a hot shot guy is rolling into a scale pulling over his GVWR. That just really showed your lack of understanding. The whole point of scales are to make sure you’re not pulling over your weight. If you get caught you get huge fines and they won’t let you leave the scales without getting down to your legal limit. The issue you will face with payload is the suspension. That’s why one is a 2500 and one is a 3500. If you’re going over your payload, your insurance might not cover you if you get in an accident. They might look like the same truck but they are not. They have different suspension for different hauling capacities. Otherwise they wouldn’t have the different classes of truck. You need a new truck in order to be complying with the law. But go ahead and be butt hurt about it.

[@bobwilson2247]

Great Video. Thanks

[@JB_WhoWork]

Thanks Bob

[@rambladesmanmoe6291]

Excellent video JB

[@jimb6683]

looking at trucks to pull a 5er... criminal they can sell a 3/4 ton $60k plus truck with a payload under 2k. bull crap and they are all doing it

[@brandonransom5443]

What is your dry weight of your camper?

[@JB_WhoWork]

11500