Why Is the Serpent in Genesis Later Called Satan?

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Dr. Michael S. Heiser

Dr. Michael S. Heiser

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@LakeGitcheGumee
@LakeGitcheGumee 2 ай бұрын
His teachings lead me to a deeper faith ❤
@tubermind
@tubermind 2 ай бұрын
He makes so much sense of certain passages that are mysterious teasers..
@claesvanoldenphatt9972
@claesvanoldenphatt9972 2 ай бұрын
Heiser was great. Now all we have is the likes of Ehrman.
@MAx-zp8bi
@MAx-zp8bi 8 күн бұрын
Great teacher
@dantasticmania8728
@dantasticmania8728 6 күн бұрын
He was one of my favorite if not favorite Biblical teachers and speakers of all time. Michael Heiser was just a genius in how he would just breakdown the Bible and it's roots to a T. His knowledge and teachings will carry on . Even in spite of him being no longer with us. R.I.P and may God rest Michael Heiser's soul.🙏🙏🙏
@Daniel-Baazov
@Daniel-Baazov 2 ай бұрын
About a year ago I found Mr Heiser and I’m glad I did. What he says towards the end about mandatory religion classes that make the student expect the bible to have contradictions is something I can relate to. My current religion prof seems to talk a lot about questionable things in the bible that make it seem illegitimate but a few helpful videos online helped me stay on track. The education system is wicked and Religion professors really need to study the facts and not base claims on a hunch.
@savedbygrace6853
@savedbygrace6853 2 ай бұрын
Right! There are no contradictions in the Bible, only a lack of knowledge. But that's not how these self described 'professors' , most of whom could not obtain a regular job and pray for tenure, operate. Students are indentured into their class because no one would sign up to enroll in them otherwise. This was the premise of the movie "God's not Dead."
@hannetjiedebeer9480
@hannetjiedebeer9480 2 ай бұрын
@savedbygrace6853 I agree. There are people who are hellbent to find contradictions in the Bible. It is easy if one reads out of context. The Bible is far beyond and above human interpretation. Even if text are removed, added, or twisted, there are other numerous texts in the Bible that will lead us back to the truth. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand that I know a fraction of the depth of the total context. Many texts in the New Testament have already been mentioned in the Old Testament. To quote Dr. Michael Heiser: "Let the Bible be what it is." Believe and trust like a child.There are so many mistaries that are now unfolding in front of our eyes, and there are many more to come.
@marigh38
@marigh38 2 ай бұрын
So grateful for Dr. Heiser, his life, and life's work we can chew on as often as we want. Praise God for Dr.Heiser.
@MAx-zp8bi
@MAx-zp8bi 8 күн бұрын
Yes, his teaching is amazing
@geoffmckenzie2608
@geoffmckenzie2608 2 ай бұрын
It is so good to hear Heiser again. He was no athlete, and we don't see him as a body-building stud. But, Mike was a man's man who was unafraid to speak truth, no matter the cost. "And Mike walked with God, and God took him." As much time as Mike spent on The Book of Enoch, it seems fitting to see his untimely departure as a reflection of Enoch.
@Paul-zf8ob
@Paul-zf8ob 2 ай бұрын
Mike restored my Christian faith after getting sucked into Zechariah Sitchin and ancient aliens! Miss him so much.
@omeyaotl
@omeyaotl 2 ай бұрын
I have a similar experience. Mike is a genuine blessing to the church body.
@ianmontez4201
@ianmontez4201 2 ай бұрын
That last couple of minutes was very impactful. The principalities and powers of the air still working now as their time gets shorter and shorter
@CherylCrawford-qi4bw
@CherylCrawford-qi4bw 2 ай бұрын
He is greatly missed especially in these days
@ThePlagueGameing
@ThePlagueGameing 2 ай бұрын
Agreed 💯!❤️
@winniecash1654
@winniecash1654 2 ай бұрын
I miss Mike. ❤
@Thoughtflux
@Thoughtflux 2 ай бұрын
Would you know how he passed away? It was sudden and came as a shock to me.
@winniecash1654
@winniecash1654 2 ай бұрын
@@Thoughtflux he passed from pancreatic cancer.
@Tywaz.Longshadow
@Tywaz.Longshadow 2 ай бұрын
FACTS...I often wonder and would like to know his thoughts on the events happening of these times.
@telleroftheone
@telleroftheone 2 ай бұрын
More great commentary from the Heiser. Miss him.
@winniecash1654
@winniecash1654 2 ай бұрын
The Mike. One and only. The genuine article 😂
@claesvanoldenphatt9972
@claesvanoldenphatt9972 2 ай бұрын
The Heiser is stronger in his absence than the Ehrman in his physical presence.
@treksta2009
@treksta2009 Ай бұрын
@@claesvanoldenphatt9972 Bart!!!!! lol
@jenndavin
@jenndavin 2 ай бұрын
I listen to Dr. Heiser every night. Always on as I go to sleep. Miss him greatly.
@KelzBernard
@KelzBernard Ай бұрын
Absolute GOLD! Rest in peace Dr. Heiser. 🕊️
@ll77rre3
@ll77rre3 2 ай бұрын
WOW!!! That was GREAT!!! No one like Dr Heiser!!! He is so missed!!!
@FergusVonMarkusson
@FergusVonMarkusson 2 ай бұрын
What a wonderful legacy this brilliant man has left for us. His intellect was only outmatched by his humility. Thank you for sharing.
@valeriaibanez1599
@valeriaibanez1599 Ай бұрын
How much I miss this dear brother of mine! May the Lord be rewarding him for his faithfulness and may the Lord help us down here to deal with the emptiness of his departure.
@sallylabhart2844
@sallylabhart2844 2 ай бұрын
So helpful, explains things so clearly for those of us who don't read Hebrew or Greek. Miss him greatly
@uwekonnigsstaddt524
@uwekonnigsstaddt524 Ай бұрын
Nothing is stopping us from learning those languages
@sallylabhart2844
@sallylabhart2844 Ай бұрын
​@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 i would love to but have a condition with a time limit of 6 to 9 years and I am on 9 my body is quietly shutting down
@robertpillowjr.1672
@robertpillowjr.1672 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Jesus! I know Dr. Heiser is with you in Paradise! God Bless His Soul. ✝️
@johnnorton4293
@johnnorton4293 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr. Heiser. You are missed.
@nfjbt
@nfjbt 2 ай бұрын
Mic drop! Classic Michael Heiser using his intellect to explain facts! I miss him ❤
@gmac6503
@gmac6503 2 ай бұрын
Except he errs badly here in this video. He blends in his apologetics to make his points. Bad stuff! Buy a good commentary on Genesis - Ronald Hendel has a new one out from Anchor Yale Bible series: _Genesis 1-11: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary_ _Genesis 1-11_ (International Exegetical Commentary on the Old Testament (IECOT) by David M. Carr Also read Mark S Smith on _The Genesis of Good and Evil: The Fall(out) and Original Sin in the Bible_ Also _God's Monsters: Vengeful Spirits, Deadly Angels, Hybrid Creatures, and Divine Hitmen of the Bible_ by Esther Hamori
@kentelley4589
@kentelley4589 Ай бұрын
Great Teaching Mr. Heiser!♥️💯👍
@KevinWBrown-cm6fr
@KevinWBrown-cm6fr 2 ай бұрын
We miss you❤
@issacdhan
@issacdhan 2 ай бұрын
Amazing. I just love his way of explaining.
@johnbrown4568
@johnbrown4568 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant exposition here by Dr. Heiser.
@BaronStVon
@BaronStVon 2 ай бұрын
I wish I got to meet him before he passed
@claesvanoldenphatt9972
@claesvanoldenphatt9972 2 ай бұрын
If you’re faithful you will see him again relatively soon. Memory Eternal!
@BaronStVon
@BaronStVon 2 ай бұрын
@ Amen, brother
@NilsGlenn
@NilsGlenn 2 ай бұрын
Is there a full video of this?
@betrion7
@betrion7 2 ай бұрын
For whatever reason someone decided to speed this up 🤦‍♂️ To combat this and get Heiser's normal voice back, play this on 0,75 speed (which you can set under settings for this video).
@patriciajohn8196
@patriciajohn8196 2 ай бұрын
I like that I didn't have to speed it up😄
@betrion7
@betrion7 2 ай бұрын
@patriciajohn8196 that's ok if such is your preference but it's quite weird (if not disrespectful) to do it by default - and do it without any notice. It misrepresents Heisers tone. People will sometimes do this when reacting to the video as to avoid copyright and also move along faster. This is however on Heiser's official channel, so hopefully whomever manages it just made a weird mistake.
@CynthiaFlowers-tb6rq
@CynthiaFlowers-tb6rq 2 ай бұрын
Ty, I like .75. 😊
@mrarcade2504
@mrarcade2504 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Dr Heiser ❤ 🙏🏽
@rep10101
@rep10101 2 ай бұрын
Can’t get enough of this!😊
@seankennedy4284
@seankennedy4284 2 ай бұрын
Outstanding. God bless Mr. Heiser, and his legacy.
@lW9497
@lW9497 2 ай бұрын
Years ago I was also tripped up in a religious studies class, but then I became a linguist and saw how languages work. We have many words for various things, each with their own nuance of meaning and usage.
@rustneversleeps01
@rustneversleeps01 2 ай бұрын
You have to be willing to look at the languages God's Word was handed down to us in. Keep translations honest, so to speak.
@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb
@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb 2 ай бұрын
Rom 8 : 7 is the serpent of old,the devil ... that than give power to execute things to 2nd Rom 8 : 8 There is no creature called the devil..You just need to gather all names and see what is the thing that connect those names Serpent / mouth / poison Devil / mouth / liar Dragon / mouth / fire Satan / mouth / adversary If you go to the beginning where God create,you see that God create everything by speaking,and it come to existence..So God create by the word..If someone missinterpret,and speak falsely,that one holding things not to be created...And if its a some creature,God would move it out of the way...But its our own mind that play trick with us...Didn't Jesus rebuke Peter by saying : But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.” But He turned and said to Peter - not some imaginary creature For you are not MINDFUL of the things of God, but the things of men . You se how this verse demolish religion? Religion claim that satan hate man,but its quite opposite..Satan is mindful of things of man..Because its our own mind that sometimes reject the truth.. For example this about what Jesus say to Peter..I shows to many,but they dont want to receive..They rather believe pope and their pastors..
@rustneversleeps01
@rustneversleeps01 2 ай бұрын
@danielbelteshazzar-mg7rb You are only part right. Genesis 1.1-14 Paraphrased In the beginning, before there was a sun or moon, there was the Spirit of God, the Voice of God, and something Good being the Light of the World the Light of Life for three evenings(erev/night) and three mornings (yom/day) Reference Rev.1.16b, 1Jhn 5.7, Jhn 8.12, Jhn 1.1-5, Mark 10.18, Mat 12.40, Daniel 2.22 The darkness is the enemy. God doesn't decieve. God didnt make the tree of death. The parable of the wheat and tares. Wheat/Tree of life Tares/tree of death. Peace
@GazGuitarz
@GazGuitarz 2 ай бұрын
So good! Miss you Dr Heiser
@1Chonn3
@1Chonn3 2 ай бұрын
FYI, you don’t have to speed the video up. We have speed controls on our end.
@scottonanski4173
@scottonanski4173 2 ай бұрын
I might not agree with him on some details, but for me he's one of the most respected academics I've come across.
@alexiswiftrock
@alexiswiftrock 2 ай бұрын
What is one example of a detail you diverge from his argument on ?
@scottonanski4173
@scottonanski4173 2 ай бұрын
​@@alexiswiftrockI'm Reformed in my soteriology.
@Gutslinger
@Gutslinger 2 ай бұрын
​@@alexiswiftrock I think one thing that he said that stood out to me personally was him claiming that in the beginning of Genesis when God says "Let Us create man in out image", he claimed that "Us" was referring to God and His heavenly council. If I remember correctly. That's something that I disagree with him on.. I believe that only God creates.
@omeyaotl
@omeyaotl 2 ай бұрын
​@@Gutslinger He clearly states that God Yahweh is the only creator. In Genesis Yahweh is speaking to His elohim council, not Himself (or other 2 persons of the trinity). We know as scriptural fact there were elohim present during creation (Job). God Yahweh ONLY creates. Mike is succinctly clear on this point in all his materials. I encourage you to read his more to confirm this. And may God bless you.
@Gutslinger
@Gutslinger 2 ай бұрын
@@omeyaotl I don't disbelieve that other created beings were present during the creation of the physical realm. But I don't understand how he comes to the conclusion that God is referring to those beings when He says, "Let Us create-". Why would God supposedly be speaking to that council in that statement if they don't take part in creating?
@TheBlackbeansoup
@TheBlackbeansoup 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant. A true scholar who truly loved helping people understand their bibles. Dude knew his languages and his bible. Gtrateful for his life and legacy.
@tprestonmarshall4195
@tprestonmarshall4195 2 ай бұрын
Thanx for the Video. ❤🙏🏻🇺🇸
@JR-rs5qs
@JR-rs5qs Ай бұрын
The problem with Dr. Heiser's take on the definite article in front of Satan is that in the Septuagint it also includes the definite article in front of 'diabolos' and in Koine Greek (and modern Greek), they do put the definite article in front of people's names to be specific that a certain 'Mike' is being discussed. The oldest OT we have is the LXX and we should be using it because it was what Jesus and the Apostles used.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 2 ай бұрын
This totally puts Dan McClellan in his place.
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe 2 ай бұрын
No it doesn't. Dan is right.
@jerryjohnamoah9301
@jerryjohnamoah9301 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much Dr.
@stephentaylor2051
@stephentaylor2051 2 ай бұрын
Hit the Like button
@rustneversleeps01
@rustneversleeps01 2 ай бұрын
Rev 12.9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. In Genesis the darkness is darkness, but it's also symbolic of life absent of God.
@jg7923
@jg7923 2 ай бұрын
Revelation 12:9 And Revelation 20:2 “That Serpent Of Old”
@j.m.4858
@j.m.4858 2 ай бұрын
Awesome 😎
@lanuto
@lanuto 2 ай бұрын
is this sped up?
@googolplex1
@googolplex1 2 ай бұрын
Yup. It sounds really weird.
@betrion7
@betrion7 2 ай бұрын
Yes, listen to it on 0.75 speed
@panchovilla5186
@panchovilla5186 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@solonkazos1379
@solonkazos1379 2 ай бұрын
good commentary
@pragmaticoptimist46
@pragmaticoptimist46 2 ай бұрын
A well reasoned argument. My only question is if the language became more elastic in the Hellenistic period, why couldn’t that mean that Satan is being described in Job 1-2. Especially in the Septuagint? I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the individual described as being allowed to test Job (and Christ in the wilderness for that matter) is someone other than Satan.
@holdingpattern245
@holdingpattern245 2 ай бұрын
Couldn't it be Satan though?
@pragmaticoptimist46
@pragmaticoptimist46 2 ай бұрын
@@holdingpattern245 yes and I believe that’s what scripture implies. But in other media and his writings Dr. Heiser proposed that it was not Satan, but a Divine Council member assigned to be a prosecutor of sorts. Someone just doing the job God assigned them. He was a very intelligent guy and certainly knew the context of ancient Hebrew literature and the ancient near east in general. While I respect him, This is one of the toughest of his proposals to accept.
@truthbebold4009
@truthbebold4009 2 ай бұрын
​@@pragmaticoptimist46So glad to see when someone gets this. I cannot stand Heiser logic. I wanted to ask him who he thinks "the Messiah" is? His logic suggests that it could be someone other than Jesus 🤦‍♂️
@RKay-ku1ni
@RKay-ku1ni 2 ай бұрын
​@@truthbebold4009 he never claimed that THE Messiah is someone other than Jesus.
@hannetjiedebeer9480
@hannetjiedebeer9480 2 ай бұрын
​@@truthbebold4009 He never indicated that Jesus isn't the Messiah. Dr Michael Heiser did an in depth study of the Old Testament. His take on his studies of the Old Testament was that one has to know and understand the contents of the Old Testament to understand the New Testament. He also did indepth studies of material outside of the Bible. He had a gift to read between the lines as well. Only listening to videos here and there may cause confusion. He dedicated his life to teach and understand the scriptures. He was fluent in the Hebrew language and had a clear understanding of Greek. He was a humble dedicated man with flaws. We all have flaws. His take on Revelation (a difficult book, wide open for various interpretation) was a bit strange, but not enough to debunk al his material.
@Funkydood
@Funkydood 2 ай бұрын
YESHUAH HA' MASSHIAH!!!
@racksityentertainment
@racksityentertainment 2 ай бұрын
I still learn things from this man… what a legacy ❤
@claesvanoldenphatt9972
@claesvanoldenphatt9972 2 ай бұрын
Those undergrad profs of biblical lit who want to destroy your faith by positing false dilemmas - that’s Bart Ehrman. Is there any recording of Heiser debating him? It would be EPIC.
@garyrodriguez8414
@garyrodriguez8414 2 ай бұрын
What was it that Bart Ehteeman went thru that so changed him ? He wasn't always the way he is today.
@inF0etc3ent7rAal
@inF0etc3ent7rAal Ай бұрын
Thanks for making sense of it all and explaining it clearly. The difference in names does tell us about Satans characteristics. Correct me if I am wrong but this is important because the Bible isn’t completely clear on his power on Earth. In Job we can see he needs Gods permission so that shows Gods ultimate authority. I then wonder how much does God let Satan punish or test us. Since God knows the outcome even though it’s dynamic because we have free will. I think if he can use bad for good because that shows his love for us and brings us back to him would that be seen as manipulative and not letting us have complete free will since he knows if what he does will push us closer to him as in Job or possibly break us in the case of Judas. I hope you can share your insights about this as I have been trying to make sense of free will for some time now. The other thing is that if we have free will in heaven couldn’t we fall into the same trap again by choice? If he removes evil wouldn’t that be taking away free will which is something the Bible said was important to God. But then did he give us free will? We didn’t know about good and evil right so we had free will based on our knowledge at the time. I think my question got answered by myself 😂 I’d would definitely like your insight on this please 🙏 I have asked many Christians I know and they don’t seem to want to delve deeper into thinking about this stuff
@Thoughtflux
@Thoughtflux 2 ай бұрын
We miss you.
@JR-rs5qs
@JR-rs5qs Ай бұрын
Heiser was wrong on Satan in Job. In the LXX, THE diabolos is used. It's not just that Koine Greek 'tolerates' the definite article. The article is there for a purpose to differentiate between 'a' something versus 'THE' something. It's a crucial distinction.
@kristopherwalhof3660
@kristopherwalhof3660 2 ай бұрын
So... is he saying that THE satan of Job should not be understood as the same serpent of Genesis 3 and Revelation (12) and 20? That point was unclear to me.
@suzannedebusschere1607
@suzannedebusschere1607 2 ай бұрын
That was really good
@Katrina.for_art
@Katrina.for_art 2 ай бұрын
I found him yesterday! And does or can anyone point me to more info on the 3 rebellions he mentioned in passing?
@swiftlytilting5088
@swiftlytilting5088 2 ай бұрын
I would recommend finding his Unseen Realm here on KZbin. It likely covers this. But I believe there was a reference in Revelations about defecting angels, might have happened long ago. Rebellion in Genesis 6 with the watchers leaving their domain to mate with humans, then there was a passage in Psalms 82 I believe where God called his host/council and berated them for abusing their power in their oversight of the nations/ human affairs. He says they were Sons of God but would now die like mortal men. Hope that helps give some bread crumbs!
@cat22_a1
@cat22_a1 2 ай бұрын
I've never heard him speak so fast. I wonder if the video has been sped up.
@DS-yo8dx
@DS-yo8dx 2 ай бұрын
Jesus is coming back soon guys! Everybody please get right with God now!
@olivetree8273
@olivetree8273 Ай бұрын
Amen 🙏 ❤
@wendyleeconnelly2939
@wendyleeconnelly2939 2 ай бұрын
I like Dr Heiser but here I think he's reaching. Where is the rule you have to use the same word to refer to the same thing? Well, it all depends on whether you want to be understood or not.
@harrylong575
@harrylong575 2 ай бұрын
It's perfectly reasonable to have different names/words referring to the same thing in this case. And that is because there is a lot of time for terms to develop. Just think about how words can mean something entirely different today than 100 years ago. It could be more difficult to retain the meaning of a name, as a single term, over time than to have the meaning be transferred to other words.
@Brandon-bm
@Brandon-bm 2 ай бұрын
Is this sped up? Dr Mike doesn't speak this fast 😅
@creightoncook5894
@creightoncook5894 2 ай бұрын
Oh for sure 😂 I put it at 0.75x speed and he sounds normal again
@rainbowodysseybyjonlion
@rainbowodysseybyjonlion 2 ай бұрын
I never heard of the figure on job being referred to as NOT the real devil. So then who was he if the titlae "the satan" is not the real true satan devil that we know??
@lenarsa66
@lenarsa66 12 күн бұрын
I agree The land of death, the underworld named ha aretz in hebrew or kur (also meaning earth) in sumerian and erṣetu in akkadian (earth or sand). Abraham came from Ur (Mesopotamian Sumer) when he left for the promised land. It connects. The snake was to eat dust just as the only thing to eat in Kur/Erṣetu was dust.
@missinglink_eth
@missinglink_eth 2 ай бұрын
@adielvelazquez
@adielvelazquez 2 ай бұрын
Why did Jsus rebuke peter and called him satan?
@juiuice
@juiuice 2 ай бұрын
Because Satan was in Peter at the time
@P.H.888
@P.H.888 2 ай бұрын
Popped up again 666AD in a cave in arabia. Galatians 1:1-11..
@peterpeplinski9923
@peterpeplinski9923 2 ай бұрын
Because the letters in his name in hebrew which is an alphanumeric language add up to 359. So he couldn't be called by that name until the 359th chapter of the book. It happens thousands of times, with thousands of words it statistically impossible to be an accident.
@Zazquatch1
@Zazquatch1 2 ай бұрын
There actually are contradiction because of ttranslation errors (wether they were deliberate or not). If you check all gospels about the time of the Last Supper, the crucifiction and the Feast of Unlesvened Bread, you can se the only John has this correct (because of misstranslations and ignorrance of The Meodim = feasts/appointed times).
@MaxKi-g3s
@MaxKi-g3s 2 ай бұрын
Gospel of Thomas says,theirs 5 trees in Paradise who ever knows them will not taste death,these 5 trees are Persons ,it's Methaphors 1. Palm tree - Father 2. Apple tree or Grapes - Mother 3. Pomegranate tree - Bride 4. Olive tree - Jesus 5. Fig tree - self House Haggia 2:19 Is the seed yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and the olive tree, hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you. Joel 1:12 12 The vine is dried up, and the fig tree languisheth; the pomegranate tree, the palm tree also, and the apple tree, even all the trees of the field, are withered: because joy is withered away from the sons of men. Nenimah 8:15 Go forth unto the mount, and fetch olive branches, and pine branches, and myrtle branches, and palm branches, and branches of thick trees, to make booths (houses), as it is written. The bible is Methaphors Mary Magdalena taught Gnostic teachings in France if this is true why ain't we?,5 trees in Paradise in Gospel Thomas sayings,their in the bible
@isahunnybee
@isahunnybee 2 ай бұрын
I can't wait to meet Mike in heaven ❤
@rep10101
@rep10101 2 ай бұрын
Awesome
@MarcusAurelius13
@MarcusAurelius13 2 ай бұрын
I'm an atheist but I agree with the point that he is making.
@williamkacensky4796
@williamkacensky4796 2 ай бұрын
Interesting analogy, considering Malakim has no free will. This Malak, commonly called Satan and by other names whose real name is unknown to humans, is not the cause of individual failure. Evil is. Isaiah 45:7. Evil was created to give us humans a choice of good or evil. This is why we alone have been given free will. I would have enjoyed Michael's classes, especially discussing ufos-uaps. May he rest in peace.
@spitfirered
@spitfirered 2 ай бұрын
👍👍💯💯❤❤👏👏
@BarbaraA.MertzRN-CCRN
@BarbaraA.MertzRN-CCRN 2 ай бұрын
No, that is incorrect. "Eretz" in Hebrew does not typically mean "underworld"; it primarily translates to "land" or "earth," so it refers to the physical world we live on, not the realm of the dead which would be represented by "Sheol" in Jewish tradition.
@R9500pro1
@R9500pro1 2 ай бұрын
You're correct, but keep in mind that Sheol was conceptualized by the ancient Israelites as being inside the "land" or "earth". "Eretz" would get the point across to a person of that time period.
@BarbaraA.MertzRN-CCRN
@BarbaraA.MertzRN-CCRN 2 ай бұрын
@@R9500pro1 That's why I used the word 'typically' and 'primarily' as opposed to 'never'. Keep in mind that the Jewish belief, unlike Christian interpretations of Hell, Sheol is not considered a place of unending torment. Remember, Judaism has a complex view of the afterlife which does not resemble that of the dualistic belief of Christianity.
@jeramy9787
@jeramy9787 2 ай бұрын
Evil defines themselves. To True Christians Evil is just Evil. No need to define.
@garyhutchison99
@garyhutchison99 2 ай бұрын
Satan is mentioned 15 times in the Old Testament.
@jg7923
@jg7923 2 ай бұрын
Some mentions are more cryptic than others. “That Twisted Serpent” - Isaiah 27:1
@FarbotBurunetNia
@FarbotBurunetNia 2 ай бұрын
TNX. The term S in Satan needs to be replaced by SH. S might also be applicable to different function and evil kind most likely have their members of SH in S rings.
@radfordsmith2773
@radfordsmith2773 2 ай бұрын
I know that what I'm about to say has been discussed for centuries. However, The Book Of Genesis never talks about the creations of Hell or Angels. This, to me, needs no postmortem Revelations. God neither created these things or would need them. Ultimately, it is of man's design........(.)
@alexamg9491
@alexamg9491 2 ай бұрын
Well the Celestial Rulers/lights created in Day for when we explore the cultural context can very well be understood as having real heavenly entities that they symbolized, and at the end of the Creation cycle it says in a nutshell and thus was completed the Heaven and the Earth and all their Heavenly hosts, the word host there is later used to talk about the assembly of Hosts which is made of those Angels. And you can't take Genesis in isolation of how the story developed Genesis is only the beginning of the story, it is normal that it is not packed with all the things that will be developed later in the Story, Genesis do not talk about the creation of earthly Kingdoms at least not by God too yet it doesn't mean God will not aim at creating a earthly Kingdom that precludes the merging of his Heavenly Kingdom and the Kingdom of men, finally the three-tier Cosmos basis already has its basis laid in Genesis, God's realm, human's realm and the realm of Chaos the waters even if at that moment the Chaos they represent is restrained and reshaped by God, later that Realm of Chaos develops to be symbolized by hell or sheol. So yea🤷‍♀️
@radfordsmith2773
@radfordsmith2773 2 ай бұрын
@alexamg9491 Nonsense !!! You add to through men. God is a realization of thought. Prophets needed for nothing other than messengers. The New Testament is a realization of man. Never needed. He'll or Angels just a story made by delusional men of antiquity.........
@alexamg9491
@alexamg9491 2 ай бұрын
@radfordsmith2773 habibi between Words study of the Original language, study of the writing of the speaker of the Original writing, the study of the Prophet's Writing before the New testament was even a project, i do not need a random guy on the internet being needlessly disrecpectful to study the Bible. You don't believe me? Simple go in the biblehub plateform and see for yourself, the host of heaven use the same word as human armies, and human congregation, of course if you want to interprete it as a personification suit you, but angels are also present in the OT, namely those with came with The Lord to Abraham and later went to Sodom and i don't even mention the Sheol which is very present in Hebrew cosmology, where do you think Samuel where before being summoned by spirit ? Sheol the realm of the dead is clearly spoken about in the OT, and strongly linked to the Chaos realm and Hell. Don't just spit out like a fake prophet, reason and give argument, it is useless to make accusations that you can't support, cite people, show the word study methodology you used, what aspect of ancient Hebrew culture are you referencing to. I also can say you just have been confused and misled by the Satan twisting the words to use you as a brainless pupet to cause others to stumble, everyone can do that, the difference is what is the reasoning behind your claim and does that hold to scrutiny, Now would you please not be disrecpectful towards people that have been martyred for the faith and just focus on the argument. By the way you have not refuted anything i said, my argument is not made out of the New testament
@alexamg9491
@alexamg9491 2 ай бұрын
@radfordsmith2773 and i do not know what you mean by realisation of thoughts maybe i am misunderstanding you, if you are here as a skeptic or atheist/ agnostic this is not a video about the existence of God or the reliability of the Bible so it is useless to argue here. But nonetheless use argument, i can also just say space is just a thoughts, science a realisation of man made by anthropocentric silly modern men on a big rock in the middle of nowhere, see i can do like you😊 how much of it is relevant though it can be debated
@radfordsmith2773
@radfordsmith2773 2 ай бұрын
@alexamg9491 Well , well ,well....As every decade passes man knows more of his world and the cosmos.Soon man will send powerful telescopes in orbit around the moon. Revealing alot. Here's a fact. Genesis 1 : 14 talks about 2 distinct and separate lights. Sun and moon. Interestingly , only one light was present. Which those that authored the Bible didn't know. Reflection was not known.........
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 2 ай бұрын
Well this is actually probably the most misunderstood and complicated subjects in the Bible. (Partially because only half of the answers are within the "official" bible) And partially just misinterpretations over time.
@davidhenry-t8s
@davidhenry-t8s 2 ай бұрын
I was homeless,did drugs ,went into prison,where I got to know God. He changes my life. Now I have a home,a wife and a lovely year old daughter (Zoe),and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. plus a new identity -a child of God, hallelujah!!!🇺🇲❤️❤️
@FortuneJessica-n9k
@FortuneJessica-n9k 2 ай бұрын
Excuse me for real?,how is that possible I have struggling financially how was that possible?
@raphaeljoel-o5d
@raphaeljoel-o5d 2 ай бұрын
Mrs Mary Margaret schimweg is lord sent!!!
@MathewLuke-m4y
@MathewLuke-m4y 2 ай бұрын
I always appreciate God for his kindness upon my life
@MaddisonSane-h3j
@MaddisonSane-h3j 2 ай бұрын
YES!!! That's exactly her name(Mary Margaret schimweg)so many people have recommended highly about her😊 and am just starting with her Brisbane Australia 🇳🇿
@FrederickLeon-t3b
@FrederickLeon-t3b 2 ай бұрын
Same here,with my current portfolio made from my investments with my personal financial advisor(Mary Margaret schimweg) I totally agree with you
@RichardBlake-n4c
@RichardBlake-n4c 2 ай бұрын
Dr. Heiser, please slow down your speech. You're talking so fast I can't keep up with what you're trying to say.
@ShadowBanned-h7k
@ShadowBanned-h7k 2 ай бұрын
He passed away, so... But you can slow the video playback speed, and use subtitles to help you follow along.
@0xF15h
@0xF15h 2 ай бұрын
He was in the beginning. And hell is is end.
@FollowerOfChrist307
@FollowerOfChrist307 2 ай бұрын
amen
@Gutslinger
@Gutslinger 2 ай бұрын
I can't really wrap my head around what he's saying here. I was following for roughly the first ¼ of it, and then got lost.. It doesn't help that whomever uploaded this sped up the playback speed.
@mrmorpheus9707
@mrmorpheus9707 2 ай бұрын
Maybe you don't know what a contradiction is...smh
@ringthembells143
@ringthembells143 2 ай бұрын
I don’t like the sped up video 🙋🏻‍♂️
@vsherrilyn2890
@vsherrilyn2890 2 ай бұрын
Also, speech and vocabulary change 😂with generations and culture. The Bible was written over hundreds of years by individuals from various ethnicities and languages. So yes the names/titles can change depending on the region or time but it does not change the truth.
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 2 ай бұрын
The being in the garden was the first angel created, and the left hand of God, samael. And that is who most are referring to when they say "Satan". And the being which tempted jesus was one of the watchers, Azazel. Who is known as "the accuser of the brethren" aka "the devil". And the antichrist is of course the 3rd beast which has yet to be. And unless the antichrist is named Lucifer, then that is just a made up being and combination of the other two satans stories. I suppose we will find out soon enough tho.
@lonecar144
@lonecar144 2 ай бұрын
Why didn’t/doesn’t/wouldn’t Satan read scripture the way the world does and NOT do what is prophesied of him and make God and his word unreliable? It is impossible to believe that an angel of high order and his untold number of followers (“1/3rd of the heavenly angels” as taught) are too stupid to realize the simplicity of this ploy that would make God and his word unreliable. It is also impossible to believe that God would risk his sovereignty on the whiles of an emotionally and/or mentally unstable being. It is impossible for Satan to be a fallen heavenly angel, because if he is all this angel must do is absolutely nothing to cause even just one of God’s prophesies to come about, and then the bible (KJV) becomes unreliable and false, do this and many more people would turn their backs on God than ever would because of any evil that satan could do. Also, what prevents another angel from rebelling in the eternal future, and another, and another, etc.? Satan is not a fallen angel; he is not a self-aware being. The bible (KJV) tells us he is a power and a principality. This fact proves that the world is not “rightly dividing the word of truth”. This fabled Satan that has considerable intelligence should know that all he must do is sit back and do nothing to bring about even just one of God’s prophecies, then at best God and his word become unreliable and then God is as fallible as man and no God. Or at worst God becomes the same as your fabled Satan “a liar” and is just a power hungry being. And this would leave 2 billion+ professing Christians without a leg to stand on, not mention those that are asleep in the lord. To “rightly divide (separate) the word of truth” you must separate fact from fable, truth from tale, and principle from parable. When you sincerely study the bible (KJV) the Holy Spirit will show you that Satan is a power and a principality in high places. In more than one instance in the bible (KJV) high places is referred to as governing seats and rulers, it is not some other dimension with literal ghouls and spirits floating around waiting for a vulnerable human to consume. Satan is not the only inanimate personified by the bible(KJV), Solomon personified wisdom and speaks for her, Prov 1:22-33 (KJV), Jesus personified the Word and speaks for it, John 17:1-5 (KJV) As for “prince of the power of the air”, when you enter a house with undisciplined and disobedient children you can feel the contention and strife in the air, when you go to a neighborhood ran by gangs you can feel the tension and fear in the air, and every day more and more you can feel the division and hate in this nation (U.S.A.) the great “liar”, “in God we trust” and “one nation under God”. When someone is tempted to do something that they know is wrong they have a little debate in their head and lie to themselves and make excuses to justify the action they want to take. Just like the story of Eve and the talking serpent. A talking serpent is a parable; 2 Tim 4:4 (KJV). A talking serpent symbolic of the lust of the flesh; is truth. The power of those that give into this serpent is what God calls Satan, or to be more specific, the power of those that use and abuse the laws of God “to steal, and to kill, and to destroy” the poor, fatherless, and widows, is what God calls Satan. A principality (a government). And any who support him, through lies or evil plans (mind), or with works (hands) are his angels. Hence the mark of the beast. All glory to God. Amen
@gideonopyotuadebo2304
@gideonopyotuadebo2304 2 ай бұрын
Yehovah is one God Yehovah has only one testimony
@AnjanieRampersad-s9r
@AnjanieRampersad-s9r Ай бұрын
Im soo sorry to hear that he died. May he SIEP
@ElvisPressCompany
@ElvisPressCompany 2 ай бұрын
noun: satin a smooth, glossy fabric produced by a weave in which the threads of the warp are caught and looped by the weft only at certain intervals.
@Sacredwisdomoftorah
@Sacredwisdomoftorah 2 ай бұрын
Was not Satan created an angel? Do angels have free will? No there isn't. They are servant souls. Do animals have free will? No, there isn't, just like nature has no free will. So how can the devil, who has no free will right to choose to "rebel"? Of course he can't choose. Free will is only a gift given to mankind. So if God had told Adam and Eve to "choose" without offering any choice in Aden and without a "seductive", how could they be "rebels"? Satan is a spirit commissioned by God to test the free will of people. If there is no test, free will does not work, it will be meaningless. People today claim or say that Satan is at war with God and is even - may God forbid - superior to Him. It is written indisputably that God's glory and oneness is written everywhere in the Bible. You say that when Greek was first spoken in the world, an elasticity developed, but since they could not pronounce the name Joshua, they made up the name Jesus.
@marcusg6904
@marcusg6904 2 ай бұрын
If I ask you a biblical question about human free will would you kindly engage in a peaceful discussion?
@Sacredwisdomoftorah
@Sacredwisdomoftorah 2 ай бұрын
@@marcusg6904 Yes sir
@marcusg6904
@marcusg6904 2 ай бұрын
@@Sacredwisdomoftorah Ok cool I’ll post 1 of many scripture that refutes free will and if you could give me your take on it I’d appreciate it. Exodus 7:13 And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said. Do you think Pharaoh had a chance to oppose YHWH?
@billholder1321
@billholder1321 2 ай бұрын
Actually "god of this age".
@justicepartyuk
@justicepartyuk 2 ай бұрын
Satan & Serpent is lies 🤥 😮❤
@KENCULVER
@KENCULVER 2 ай бұрын
A REAL DYPSYDOODLER OF THE SCRIPTURES
@NathanBolton-jw5xh
@NathanBolton-jw5xh 9 күн бұрын
You guys are twisting this story in something completely wrong. Look up the original story and look at the original translation. You will find that your story will make more sense if it was told correctly. This is the big deception!
@JR-rs5qs
@JR-rs5qs Ай бұрын
Again, all of the unhealthy fanboyism comments on a Dr. Heiser video. It's really sick.
@frederickkneuss3367
@frederickkneuss3367 2 ай бұрын
I think, when Peter cut the ear off the arresting officer, Jesus said to Peter, get behind me Satan. Maybe Satan is an action. A verb, and action against God. The spirit entity speaking from the tree acted against God and even called God a liar. Peter was taught, like the others, what was to happen to Jesus. He momentarily acted against that plan.
@shockthetoast
@shockthetoast 2 ай бұрын
That's not when Jesus said that to Peter. When Jesus said that he was going to have to suffer and die and then rise again, Peter rebuked him and said that would never happen. That's when Jesus said "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
@frederickkneuss3367
@frederickkneuss3367 2 ай бұрын
@@shockthetoast Thank you for the correction. So greatly appreciated. Is it not festinating that even if the facts are a little skewed, the idea often remains. This might be wisdom. It is unlikely Peter is a creature called Satan at the story you mention. The stumbling block, beginning in the garden, which sought to interfere with the plan of heaven and human relationship. Humans that walk with God. Thank you again for your assistance.
@underfire987
@underfire987 2 ай бұрын
Their is no relation yaweh is not the farther of christ the old Testament comes from the Torah which even several Jewish groups fight each other over it and much of it came from mesopotamia and that region of the world. Focus on Jesus's teachings not on the old Testament.
@mkm9859
@mkm9859 2 ай бұрын
I find this very weak. He uses the Bible (New Testament) to explain the Bible (Old Testment, or more appropriately, the TANAKH). He gets it right that Satan is not a name but a title, but that title is applied to many people in the TANAKH at various times, even God. But the character - the person - of Satan is only referenced twice in the OT. He's not the Lord of this world or the underworld. He's an agent of God. Sure, you can interpret prophecies and stories however you want to build your doctrine, but it's subjective at best: what does the text actually say is what's important. His point that the writers weren't bound by language is what I find most agregious: if they COULD mean it,then they could also NOT mean it. Again, weak. 'Not trying to be the turd in the punch bowl - I'm genuinely seeking answers on this topic. I don't think you can overlook the syncretic probability of this character in the scripture. It's the best explanation. I recommend KZbin channel ReligionForBreakfast's "Origins of Satan" for a better discussion on this topic
@Bigislandzz
@Bigislandzz Ай бұрын
Enki created the elites...enlil will stop enki .. Michael will defeat samael..enlil is Michael enki is samael
@camden7488
@camden7488 2 ай бұрын
Satan is used 6 times in the old testament or tenahk. 2 as a name or title...... Noones called you out on this yet? Satan means adversary in hebrew.
@DevlinJones-h4z
@DevlinJones-h4z 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Deciever is at it again.
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