Why Jiu Jitsu Is Perfect For Self Defense | Fight Breakdown

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@RaveyDavey
@RaveyDavey 2 ай бұрын
Nobody gets involved when the attacker is throwing punches. But as soon as he's being held down, idiot onlookers eventually act and start with the "hey, let him go!" crap.
@Thesavagesouls
@Thesavagesouls 2 ай бұрын
yeah they play the heroes once it's safe.
@nmr20067
@nmr20067 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that the danger of taking a fight to ground with people you don’t know around…. He is very lucky no bystander decided to become the guy’s friend and intervene.. They clearly got unhappy after while. He took too long..
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
it is either you help immediately before things escalate, or you just avoid intervening all together. If it does not involve me personally, I am not putting myself at risk
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
@@nmr20067 I agree going to the ground is always a dangerous option unless it has to be brought to the ground. This guy is clearly experienced and I believe he probably could have managed staying on his feet and controlling the dude
@donovanb9020
@donovanb9020 2 ай бұрын
@@RaveyDavey I feel like a lot of people don't step in until a dominant grappling position is gained is a largely because they don't want to catch a stray or two when trying to break the fight up. At least someone is down and the other is on top and controlling them, it's a lot safer for them to step in.
@Pifagorass
@Pifagorass Ай бұрын
It's not about BJJ in self defence, but experienced in martial arts vs not experienced situation.
@kturcios
@kturcios 2 ай бұрын
Love how everyone is always wanting to pull the guy off who is calm and incapacitating the aggressor...
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Pissed me off
@fifteen8
@fifteen8 2 ай бұрын
@@staysafemartialarts they both looked like aggressors to me.
@obama7325
@obama7325 2 ай бұрын
@@fifteen8guy on top had a lot of restraint he could have done some real damage by throwing punches or elbows but he did not he got the choke in but didnt actually go for the choke so id say he was definitely not the aggressor
@fifteen8
@fifteen8 2 ай бұрын
@@obama7325 There wasn't a clear attacker or defender. The fight started with both of them throwing punches. Bjj guy took the other guy to the ground, I assume, because that's where he is comfortable and skilled. It was a stalemate until the guy on the bottom let off because the fight was getting broken up. In fact he was saying "he's on me, he's on me." Once they were getting separated, bjj guy decided "I'm gonna choke this guy out." And once the guy submitted, he didn't release. Just because bjj guy didn't break bones doesn't mean he was an unwilling defender.
@AlexVogel-qd6su
@AlexVogel-qd6su 2 ай бұрын
They are mature enough to stop the fight you kid
@jd8226
@jd8226 2 ай бұрын
I’d personally give Judo the edge in terms of self defence. It’s far more physically intense than BJJ, which has quite a relaxed nature when it comes to rolling/sparring. That intense pace has far better carry over for real life situations, which by their very nature are a lot quicker and more taxing. Also Judo equips you with a real sense of not just your own balance but an opponents balance too. With a few basic foot sweeps and a throw for each direction you can really become quite dangerous on your feet, which is where virtually all fights start. A well practiced less is certainly more in the world of real violence. I’d sooner put someone on their arse and walk away than get dragged to the ground and fight for a sloppy submission that might not even finish them
@BenWeeks-ca
@BenWeeks-ca 2 ай бұрын
he used a judo trip which is also practiced in bjj. the ground work in both are similar too. often it's just different words for the same things. knowing how to apply weight when on the ground against someone resisting is harder than it looks. try to hold a blue belt down with even a year of training is tough. people who get into these sports tend to work on both as they are very complimentary.
@obama7325
@obama7325 2 ай бұрын
idk what gym u go to but id say bjj and judo are equally intense physically id definitely rather know judo for a street fight tho id rather them be slammed on the ground and me still standing
@Leighszar
@Leighszar 2 ай бұрын
Your 100% correct. Though BJJ guys will never admit it. BJJ is about commitment and engagement. 2 bad things in self-defense. Judo is more online with non commitment and disengagement.
@timhacker2772
@timhacker2772 2 ай бұрын
I'll add; one of the brilliant advantages to a judo base is that you can ground your opponent whilst remaining upright yourself. Typical wrestling/bjj takedowns (eg. Blast double) require you to go down with your opponent, which may not always play to your advantage. A well executed hip toss, trip, tai-otoshi etc will floor your opponent with meaningful impact and still keep you on your feet. Very effective and underrated skill set in both combat sports and self defense.
@voin3186
@voin3186 2 ай бұрын
The number 1 achieved takedown in MMA is a double leg takedown. Something legal in BJJ, and legal in Wrestling. You can also achieve it and stay standing. But illegal in Judo. We can unzip our pants and pull out our competition records, drop links to the websites our names are registered on. Buuuut. If you are training for sport, and taking it seriously, no matter the sport you will gain skills, and you will be an athlete, and become good at your sport, right? Now wouldn't that sport put holes in your self defense plan, because you have been training towards rules? If you want to learn to brutally fight, you will want break the rules of your sport, and learn some dark arts, and train those as seriously as you would for the sport. You will become a better athlete, and know more about self defense than your sports counter part, no? So, I'd imagine it would be best for someone who wants to defend themselves find a school that allows for that, and offers training outside of the sport. Ultimately if you are training for self defense, your one goal in grappling should be to break out and run away. Leave your ego behind, and stay around for your loved ones, and so you can enjoy those you love. If you are cornered, don't have the ability to run (as an athlete????) then yes a slam works great! All grappling sports have their version, and all have athletes who take their training seriously. Yes even you Tae Kwon Do.
@tearsintherain6311
@tearsintherain6311 2 ай бұрын
If y’all think you have a decent chance against multiple opponents in any style, or if you’re thinking about how to be aggressive in the street instead of defending when you have no choice, then you got bigger problems than worrying about how safe the ground is The main advantage of striking is you can tip or low kick to make distance enough to walk or run away, but as soon as someone grabs you that’s no longer an option, the point of bjj is not to take things to the ground but to know what to do when they do, in this case the guy felt confident enough to do it, which may be a good or bad call, but it doesn’t matter, his decision of taking things to the ground doesn’t say anything about bjj, and it doesn’t matter “what if” other people tried to kick him. They didn’t. If such example exists then that’s the place to mention it, we don’t know the context of the situation maybe he had some reason to believe he was safe doing it or whatever, that’s why examples exist, you can imagine any possible scenario, imagining an example is not the same as an actual real life example, which is what this video is about, a real thing that happened in a specific way.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Awesome feedback! Ultimate goal IMO is to stay standing, or if you get on the ground, to get back to your feet quickly and safely. As you said, we have to make decisions in the heat of the moment and hope for the best and I think that is what he did here. Handled it very well
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc Ай бұрын
Guy in the video handled it perfectly doing jujitsu.
@Marcianito100PorCientoReal
@Marcianito100PorCientoReal 2 ай бұрын
I box but I'm convinced that I need some grappling to complement my defense, I think bjj would be a great combination with my boxing skills.
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc 2 ай бұрын
0 seconds ago It’s crazy how people take this one example Of someone perfectly handling the situation under the circumstances that were given where no one got hurt Using jiu jitsu and criticizing it. What if there was multiple people, what if there’s heroin needles on the ground, what if there was a knife, what if there was a gun. Yeah, we can play the “what if” game all day. Fact of the matter is, he defended himself successfully using grappling where no one got hurt. Seems like a total win to me.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Exactly this
@Vaejovis357
@Vaejovis357 2 ай бұрын
Typical 1st day white belt question. What if a drug dealer with an AR-5 shot him? What if a gang started to kick him? What if he was shot by a crossbow? Etc, etc etc. He’s talking about this specific event, not every possible situation.
@GutsToCuts
@GutsToCuts 2 ай бұрын
I think for self defense of this sort -- a good idea is to play knee on belly, just because it keeps you safer from bystanders or the potential of multiple attackers.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Exactly! Or the technical mount/gift wrap position
@frankbatista
@frankbatista 2 ай бұрын
“Never take it to the ground” keyboard warriors enter the chat. Yes the ground is dangerous, so is a lucky shot to the chin and your head hitting the ground uncontrollably. “His friends will get you on the ground” yes, they’ll also sucker punch you from behind when you’re jabbing his friend. In the world of KZbin all possibilities are always open all the time. In the real world only SOME things apply at any one time. In ANY case, if you chose wrong you pay the price. Ground work works! You just saw the video. Does it work if the guy has a pocket nuclear bomb? Obviously not! You don’t go to Afghanistan armed with Muay Thai and prayers. You take a rifle and some dangerous friends.
@donkeysniff1255
@donkeysniff1255 2 ай бұрын
@@drumpf2024campayn LOL a blue belt will also toy with him.
@ÉdouardBrasseur
@ÉdouardBrasseur 2 ай бұрын
On feet you can just escape
@ktkt1825
@ktkt1825 2 ай бұрын
@@stejo73 ... or quicksand?
@fifteen8
@fifteen8 2 ай бұрын
It all depends on who you're fighting and what they know.
@gabrieldavolli422
@gabrieldavolli422 2 ай бұрын
What a great way to create an instructional video. Borrowing from a completely real scenario and showing how one can be more safely put while still applying BJJ for self defense. The video is already a response to comments touching on the old debate over street fights brought to the ground. Wish there was more mindful content like this around
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
I have few more videos similar to this ill show
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc 2 ай бұрын
Everyone says that the ground is the stupidest place to be in a self-defense situation. What the actual heck there’s so many videos out there with people successfully defending themselves using jujitsu or some sort of grappling. It’s pretty awesome that the worlds most efficient and effective martial art is also the worlds most humane.
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc 2 ай бұрын
What if this, what if that. What if it was snow. What if there are blah blah blah. well, there wasn’t. He handled it perfectly. no need for an armbar, no need to punch the guy and no one got hurt. And people are complaining. So funny
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
spot on
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc 2 ай бұрын
Also, The guy that defends himself didn’t have to have super fast hand speed or incredible punching power. Where were the leg kicks or super athleticism, didn’t seem to me he use a lot of strength either. No I gouges no groin shots. Looked like a regular guy Who trained jujitsu and had a roadmap.
@eriklarson4082
@eriklarson4082 2 ай бұрын
Yep, all depends on the situation. There are many situations where it's the best for self defense.
@vladx3539
@vladx3539 2 ай бұрын
and many where it isn’t
@cortezp410
@cortezp410 2 ай бұрын
I came to the comments to talk shit but watched your explanation and ended up liking and subscribing. 😂 Great job!
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Hahah i appreciate it
@jj_Jiu-Jitsu
@jj_Jiu-Jitsu 2 ай бұрын
Great Breakdown! I believe Another reason not to throw strikes while on top is because I believe it increases your chances of someone jumping in? It’s always a risk what people “see”. You don’t look like a victim raining down blows. Thanks for sharing 🤙
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc Ай бұрын
Another video was just uploaded to KZbin showing someone successfully defending themselves using jujitsu. He was in New Zealand, some guy was following him,he went to a coffee shop and then he defended himself.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts Ай бұрын
Breaking this one down next
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc Ай бұрын
Get ready for the “would’ve, could’ve, should’ve and what if‘s”. It’s just another example of how grappling or jujitsu is really effective in a self-defense situation. Again you didn’t have to have super fast hands or punching power. Doing stand up puts you in the same rage they need to have a lucky punch on you. Most of these guys in these self-defense jujitsu videos are not trained fighters. You don’t need to be. That shows how amazing jujitsu is. When someone scores and knock out in the KZbin self-defense video. You’re not really sure if it was a Lucky Punch or a trained fighter. No one gets a lucky leg take down, followed by the mount followed by lucky arm bar or lucky take the back to a lucky rear naked choke.
@kevins6709
@kevins6709 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful video thank you!
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
🤙🏻
@voin3186
@voin3186 2 ай бұрын
Jiu jitsu is a beautiful sport, and it is effective if you have the ->timetimetime
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Great explanation
@jasontipton8430
@jasontipton8430 2 ай бұрын
If your fighting one person yeah but usually your fighting more than one
@capofodedor7399
@capofodedor7399 2 ай бұрын
Walk into any mma gym and ask the coach what’s the best self defense martial arts 1 on 1,and they will all tell you the same thing,Muay Thai,wrestling,bjj..MMA 15 years strong and still going
@RicoMnc
@RicoMnc 2 ай бұрын
I train BJJ for fitness, fun, and self defense skills. When rolling if I have the opportunity I try to treat it as a self defense situation and go for control in the safest way for me, like the up right, gift wrap from side mount shown in this video. Better than being on your back while doing a RNC or arm bar. In class competition you can "win" on your back, but in a chaotic, more unpredictable self defense situation it is not ideal.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Gift wrap is an amazing position to work towards for self defense
@kris3451
@kris3451 2 ай бұрын
Counterpoint: occasionally being on the bottom during chaos is better. e.g. when people intervene, they often grab at the top person to pull them off (or worse). Or if they are biased toward your attacker, they often let things play out IF he's on top "winning". In those cases, looking like the "loser" while you're secretly choking them unconscious from the bottom can be the thing that saves you. I've heard a few similar stories, usually in crowded environments (i.e. tables, chairs, crowds of people blocking access, booth seating, etc). As long as you don't get pinned, know your sweep/escape path, and your head is away from danger, using the top person as a shield can be the most effective tactic. Whereas swapping positions would have you eating punches from behind, or having a crowd restrain you while the attacker gets up and starts hitting you again.
@SuperNachtAktiv
@SuperNachtAktiv 2 ай бұрын
Best self defense in street fight scenarios is just evading and running away
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Spot on
@frankbatista
@frankbatista 2 ай бұрын
I think Hard 2 Hurt did a video on just “running away”. It’s almost never the best idea.
@IvanLabrie
@IvanLabrie 2 ай бұрын
@@frankbatista Probably more dangerous, can get shot in the back, can be outrun and tossed to the ground, etc.
@LutadorBB
@LutadorBB 2 ай бұрын
Only when you faster then the aggressor 😅
@attav8
@attav8 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you replying to all of the comments. That earned you a sub from me!
@KrigRaseri
@KrigRaseri 2 ай бұрын
JJ is fine in the streets, but you gotta box in the sheets. ~ Chris Brown
@KEPSAGAMER
@KEPSAGAMER 2 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@Antiqueexcavator
@Antiqueexcavator Ай бұрын
BJJ is awesome for self defense. Makes it so easy to control an aggressor. Here’s the problem, on the ground you’re very vulnerable to an attack from a second aggressor. From a guy who was in dozens of street fights back in the day (when we had little fear of guns or knives or law suits or charges) in very few fights is there a winner. It’s usually one just losses less. Today, if there’s any way to avoid a fight, avoid it. Only fight if you have no way out and fear an attack. If that’s the case, strike first and make it count then get the hell out of the area.
@Zett-wv1hm
@Zett-wv1hm Ай бұрын
Watch the vídeo 3 vs 1 with mma rules .
@Antiqueexcavator
@Antiqueexcavator Ай бұрын
@@Zett-wv1hm I think we’re agreeing. I said in my comment that the problem is when on the ground you’re most vulnerable to a second or third party attack. But in a one on one fight BJJ is terrific for self defense. And I also added that if you can, strike first, make it count and get the hell out there! I’m saying all that bc I’ve been there and done that. Both ways (Albeit years ago. I’m an old f**k now. A fairly tough old f**k but an old f**k nonetheless). Lol In one v one’s with no interference and In one v one’s with others kicking the crap out of me when I was on top of their buddy. So, I do agree with you. Good hands matter. Always Try to stay in your feet. Try to win from your feet and ending it on your feet by striking first as soon as you realize there is no peaceful out. Most of the time I was able to do just that. First punch in clean and a knock out. But in the few cases that didn’t happen I was glad I had some BJJ skills (not a lot but enough) to quickly control my aggressor. And again, it was during one of those that his back up got me good. lol. So again, I do think we agree and it sounds like if we knew each other I’d be happy to have you in my foxhole!
@MarcYoder1
@MarcYoder1 2 ай бұрын
I love the move to use the chest to isolate the arm and move to s-mount. I'm wondering if he went to back mount because the knees on the sidewalk was so uncomfortable (and he had just been there in mount). That s-mount pivot of the knee on that sidewalk would have been brutal. Just a thought.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Very well couldve been
@fifteen8
@fifteen8 2 ай бұрын
If the bystanders hadn't intervened that guy never would have gotten in the rear naked choke.
@jamesh318
@jamesh318 2 ай бұрын
If I'm ever defending myself and some mf'er comes along and starts interfering, he is next.
@FR-ty5vn
@FR-ty5vn 2 ай бұрын
Great 👍🏼 stuff - I love that modified mount position - I thought he did a nice job 👍🏼 and it’s never going to be as pretty on the street; however, I feel like most very experienced people have the non-choking arm behind the head for a RNC, rather than on top of the head as it’s tighter…maybe you disagree - I’m just getting ready for my brown belt test so I defer to a black belt…
@StripMallSensei
@StripMallSensei 2 ай бұрын
Good techniques.
@BeepBoop2221
@BeepBoop2221 2 ай бұрын
Nice O uchi gari
@IvanLabrie
@IvanLabrie 2 ай бұрын
75% of the time, works every time (along side osoto gari)
@ivanivan5511
@ivanivan5511 2 ай бұрын
1:05 goodbye fellas, time for a nap
@ericfierro1693
@ericfierro1693 2 ай бұрын
I think Ringen is better self defense. It has all the subs of Jits but standing. It’s not as cool or tactical looking but its simplicity is what I admire.
@petersouthwell5971
@petersouthwell5971 2 ай бұрын
One on one.. Its a great system. Not only is it affective but it's one of the few martial arts that shows you how to bring your opponent down with out bodily damage striking creates. I believe this always will. Here's where Jiu Jitsu has a weakness. Ill spare why.. but once I was attacked in my living room at a party... 6 dudes. I was in a hall way which prevented a rat pack..> BUT.. I grabbed the first guy.. Right on the ground did what I was trained to do... THen suddenly.. I felt the thud of his 5 buddies drop kicking me in the back of the head.. (I couldn't move or block cause Im rolling on the ground with they're buddy). 5-8 kicks to the back of my skull later.. I blacked out. Luckily when I woke.. I was still alive. Going to the ground was the worst thing to do in that situation... but many situations its a great tactic.. one vs one for example.. but like all martial arts.. there's a weakness.
@AreYouEnlightened
@AreYouEnlightened 2 ай бұрын
I think you were probably screwed either way.
@bluebomber1003
@bluebomber1003 2 ай бұрын
Jiu Jitsu is great... if you're fighting one person.
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 2 ай бұрын
What's your chosen martial art for multiple attackers?
@bluebomber1003
@bluebomber1003 2 ай бұрын
@@Billycca3 A gun.
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 ай бұрын
@@Billycca3The cop out answer is MMA as it’s taught in most gyms now, with it being it’s own ‘meta’ of styles and techniques, though it isn’t it’s own ‘Style’ per say. And combat sambo seems like a cop out answer as well since it’s inherently a mixed martial art very close to what MMA is So for a non cop out answer I’d probably say Dutch Kickboxing. You’ve got boxing esque footwork and movement, a variety of boxing and Kyokushin karate style striking which usually favors aggression which is something you’ll need most times to end dangerous altercations as quickly as possible, teaches you a level of toughness and grit physically and mentally…in theory it should be effective against single or multiple
@jet67jd37
@jet67jd37 2 ай бұрын
@@Billycca3boxing, all the others don’t work
@ElCap1van
@ElCap1van Ай бұрын
@@Billycca3runaway
@thorazine0076
@thorazine0076 2 ай бұрын
Big Orange shirt dude was way out of line, had he let that crazy dude up he probably would've kept fighting.
@nmr20067
@nmr20067 2 ай бұрын
My concern is he took too long and struggled to end it faster. He is very lucky the bystanders didn’t get involved. They started to and stopped…. He stayed on the ground and took too long with him. This is the street; he was very vulnerable and took too long..
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
i personally believe he was intent on just hanging out in mount until officers arrived but once people started trying to break it up, thats when the guy on bottom was able to get some wiggle room to escape
@nmr20067
@nmr20067 2 ай бұрын
@@staysafemartialarts I agree man. I respect you, and what I said was not a knock on your video. I think your critique was excellent. Like you mentioned and showed, I think the knee on belly would’ve been better in that situation. That guy clearly has some BJJ training but he’s not at an incredibly high level, but he knew enough to subdue the guy.. But he needed to be a little more aware of his surroundings before overcommitting on the ground like that. That’s all I was saying. Again, your observation and critique of what he should’ve done was spot on.
@ScytaleZero
@ScytaleZero 2 ай бұрын
I agree with ​@staysafemartialarts . When the guy is just sitting there in mount for a while, there's so much other stuff he could be doing. He clearly knows enough that he's got a lot of options from mount but he's just keeping the attacker tied up. I think he was trying to not hurt the attacker and hope he cools off or somebody in charge comes to break things up.
@johnsimcox9372
@johnsimcox9372 2 ай бұрын
Not letting go until he goes limp
@jeromenealon-iy6rt
@jeromenealon-iy6rt 2 ай бұрын
A couple problems. Smashing your kneecap on the pavement ends with you in the ER. Also going to the ground with one guy, and his buddy starts kicking you in the head. So I strongly disagree that its the best martial art.
@niledunn4641
@niledunn4641 2 ай бұрын
The ground is the last place you go as you don't always know the terrain and if it's multiple assailants as weapons are involved, but that is not always the case and sometimes it's easier to take someone down to if it's one on one, you can either restrict their movements with a restraint technique like a wrist lock or use nerve pressure points to cause pain which do work and are effective, this video was a good example of how newaza can be used
@chrisboyer7178
@chrisboyer7178 2 ай бұрын
I think it was great for a juji gatame, got that back roll if there are others around... maybe. what do you think?
@mrrabbit5555
@mrrabbit5555 2 ай бұрын
Lucky the perp didn’t have a knife. But yes BJJ and Judo, wrestling is good for self defense.
@volentipugnum4045
@volentipugnum4045 2 ай бұрын
Where I come from, everyone carries a blade. Sometimes just a boxcutter, other times maybe just a 2 inch knife. What type of grappling works when someone starts carving out your muscles and tendons? Even just a shallow slash can ruin your ability to grapple
@BenWeeks-ca
@BenWeeks-ca 2 ай бұрын
then you need gun jitsu or high level tactical communication
@edwardkeeter762
@edwardkeeter762 2 ай бұрын
Where I come from, everybody carries a gun. I would prefer to be able to resolve the conflict without literally killing the other person.
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 2 ай бұрын
Idk man, being really good at controlling limbs would probably help in knife defense
@Leighszar
@Leighszar 2 ай бұрын
And if there was another assailant around, he would have been messed up. Jujitsu is a full commetment art that is not good for distancing and disengaging. It is a dueling art, not a self-defense art
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 2 ай бұрын
But there wasn't. He would've been messed up too if there was another attacker but he was a muay thai guy. No one has a good defense to multiple attackers
@chinadatabase
@chinadatabase 2 ай бұрын
It should be clear that Jiu Jitsu only works in a one on one scenario!! If there are 3 or 4 attackers, you better carry a Glock!!
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Not wrong there
@kananisha
@kananisha 2 ай бұрын
It's a good solution but I would not call it perfect. Judo or wrestling would be better. Being able to control the standing fight and if need be being competent on the ground with top control will always be better.
@rodvan-zeller6360
@rodvan-zeller6360 2 ай бұрын
Is a choke hold considered lethal force? Was there a chance a friend would stab the choker?
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 2 ай бұрын
Sure. Also a chance a friend would stab him if he stayed on his feet
@rodvan-zeller6360
@rodvan-zeller6360 2 ай бұрын
@@Billycca3 Agreed on the stabbing part. Is a choke hold considered lethal force?
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 Ай бұрын
@@rodvan-zeller6360 I'm not a lawyer so I couldn't say. I feel like it would depend on how you apply it. You can hold a person in a rnc and not choke them to death or even unconscious. It'd probably depend on how good your lawyer is and the jury's stance
@rodvan-zeller6360
@rodvan-zeller6360 Ай бұрын
@@Billycca3 Thank you for the reply
@willwailes9298
@willwailes9298 Ай бұрын
The average BJJ practitioner would not survive a street fight. A guy I used to train with was a black belt, was a judoka before jits, and was a roided up body builder. He got knocked out with a single punch by some skinnyfat guy at bar who sounded like a woman. That's someone who knows a takedown that isn't pulling guard, and was a black belt. BJJ is an invaluable skill, but applying it when someone is trying to kill you is different than taking bong rips and playing laso guard. Modern BJJ is a watered down joke, and it shows in MMA. It's a false religion. Great moves though. Sweeps and throws are great for self defense, but there's problems with how it's trained and taught, as well as the doctrines of the religion. "Strength doesn't matter." It's point TKD, the stuff we used to laugh at.
@comanchedase
@comanchedase 2 ай бұрын
Its the best 1x1 but on a st fight youll be open...
@8BIT_ASSAULT
@8BIT_ASSAULT 2 ай бұрын
Its an effective component that's all, but overall not very good. Its must be viewed as a complimentary skill.
@Gonosen
@Gonosen 2 ай бұрын
He could have been a Judoka...
@KizokuOniiUzumaki
@KizokuOniiUzumaki 2 ай бұрын
He’s been waiting for that chance his whole bjj career. He can’t wait to tell people at the academy about that 😂. He probably started it.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Oh for sure. Definitely earned a stripe on his belt his next class
@TOMTHAKAT82
@TOMTHAKAT82 2 ай бұрын
EVERYONE STARTS STANDING 😏REMEBER THAT ..BEST COMBO IS JUDO & MUAY THIA KICKBOXING !!
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow 2 ай бұрын
I’d say wrestling and Dutch Kickboxing is a better combo. Wrestling has Judo’s throws on top of more positions and takedowns that don’t rely on the gi, and is generally a tougher, more gritty sport in training which leads to the people rhag do it becoming grittier and tougher And Dutch Kickboxing is gritty and tough embodied. It has Kyokushin Karate and Japanese kickboxing elements and a heavy emphasis on boxing. What edges it over Muay Thai imo is that it has better footwork, head movement, and hands/boxing, and trenches aggression, combinations and pressing the action more so than MT does on average
@ElCap1van
@ElCap1van Ай бұрын
@@jocoolshow I’d rather throw kicks and elbows than straight punches and break my hand
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Ай бұрын
@@ElCap1van You’re not really gonna break your hand unless you throw harder than necessary or hit dense bone. Even in gloves you don’t throw 100% in every punch, and since bare knuckle you’re focusing force into small points (the knuckles), you don’t need to throw hard to hurt someone Also, to throw elbows you have to be rubber up close to someone and for kicks….Dutch Kickboxing has those in spades since it comes from Kyokushin, and that aside, in a street altercation, more could go wrong throwing a kick than a punch, but kicks tend to do more damage. High risk high reward
@robertmccarthy4528
@robertmccarthy4528 2 ай бұрын
Only on a one on one fight
@redpandagency
@redpandagency 2 ай бұрын
It’s not good when you have to fight two opponents.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Agree with ya there
@pavloshyshlevskyi7070
@pavloshyshlevskyi7070 2 ай бұрын
Що би було з героєм відео якби у суперника був ніж..? Та навіть зуби це потужна зброя! Одже дистанція, дистанція і ще раз дистанція.
@fazer12779
@fazer12779 2 ай бұрын
0:48 He could have probably arm bar'd him also.
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 2 ай бұрын
Arm bars aren't great in self defense imo. People don't know that you can break their arm more times than not and pain compliance isn't as effective as forced compliance or a strangle.
@Michael-k7r
@Michael-k7r 2 ай бұрын
How about you just play the video and narrate while it plays
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
I can do that
@robowop9354
@robowop9354 2 ай бұрын
I love bjj & have a ton of respect for the art but its not gonna work if youre outnumbered & you got the guys friends stomping your head or hitting you with weapons.
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 2 ай бұрын
What would?
@rinzler9775
@rinzler9775 2 ай бұрын
Its works against an untrained fighter who doesn't know BJJ or grappling.
@sryan8971
@sryan8971 2 ай бұрын
So an untrained guy takes on a trained JJ guy and the JJ wins and you think this a perfect example of why JJ is so effective in street fights? What happens if the untrained guy is a trained boxer?
@BenWeeks-ca
@BenWeeks-ca 2 ай бұрын
how trained? is he used to countering takedowns? If he's just a boxer than probably not. once distance is closed the boxing is nullified and the takedown is inevitable. once locked in bottom mount there's very little boxinf capability available all else being equal.
@sryan8971
@sryan8971 2 ай бұрын
@@BenWeeks-ca that sounds good in theory but in reality, it's a different story. As a striker, I can punch you in the face faster than you can get a takedown. plus, JJ practitioners don't have great takedowns. I trained MMA for years and i can tell you, when JJ guys come in for a takedown, it's easy picking for a boxer. Jits is great on the ground, no argument but street fights start on the feet and with very little warning.
@laurenfazenbaker9777
@laurenfazenbaker9777 2 ай бұрын
Yeah...you're on the ground with Tyrone trying to lock in a triangle choke from guard, and suddenly Pookie, Ray-Ray, Cornbread, and Smitty-Roe start stomping on your head. Stay on your feet in a street fight, learn to strike and use footwork. Jiu-jitsu is great for a cage, or 1v1, but street fights are rarely 1v1. It is the absolute wrong art for the streets.
@lesnacke
@lesnacke 2 ай бұрын
these names bro 💀
@Billycca3
@Billycca3 2 ай бұрын
So you could out strike 5 guys?
@laurenfazenbaker9777
@laurenfazenbaker9777 2 ай бұрын
@@Billycca3 yes...if you are keeping them in line one behind the other so that they are getting in each other's way. The key isn't the striking, it's the footwork and positioning.
@notperth
@notperth 2 ай бұрын
bhai video toh dekhne de
@Sherlock245
@Sherlock245 Ай бұрын
Why are you not defending the streets in europe.
@idx1941
@idx1941 2 ай бұрын
Perfect video to show the limitations of bjj in real life.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
there are absolutely limitations of jiu jitsu in real life. Need to practice how to adjust techniques for sport vs street
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc 2 ай бұрын
Yes, what are those limitation?
@jeffreyplumley9543
@jeffreyplumley9543 2 ай бұрын
It is a PERFECT example of why it’s not a perfect self defense system for the street. When he first had the guy down and the others were trying to break it up the Jujitsu player was PERFECTLY vulnerable to attack had any of the onlookers been the “bad guy’s” friends. A well placed head kick when your guy was on top would have ended him. Stop spreading this nonsense. BJJ is great sport and great when you are guaranteed a 1 vs 1 confrontation.
@nmr20067
@nmr20067 2 ай бұрын
I thought about that. He was very vulnerable when on the ground and very lucky no one was the other friend or decided to become his friend.. I also noticed the choke position bothered the bystanders and they were really ready to get involved. He’s lucky no one attacked him. He spend too long on the ground…
@algierssolja
@algierssolja 2 ай бұрын
Yeah and luckily no one hit the guy punching in the back of the head with a brick 😂 in. Fight with multiple people kung fu would have saved the day. That is how crazy you guys sound.
@nmr20067
@nmr20067 2 ай бұрын
@@algierssolja Yeah, he must be a 2 stripe white belt because he took way too long and he’s BIG LUCKY they stopped trying to break it up. He’s also lucky no one kicked his head in since he took too long. That video is on KZbin from a Mom that did it to BJJ guy in the mounted position against her son…. lol.
@tearsintherain6311
@tearsintherain6311 2 ай бұрын
If only he knew karate he wouldnt have lost in my imagination 😢
@Idk-xi1tr
@Idk-xi1tr 2 ай бұрын
Man yall americans just took the thing and dissolved it into your own beliefs didn't you. They're called FIGHTERS, it's a form of fighting, there are dangers involved and it isnt pleasant to be smashed, if you think bjj is a nerdy soy boy sport go to a brazilian gym and tell one of the guys there he isn't a real fighter. But hey, just a friendly reminder, dont expect to find your typical local rich kids gracie barra there. You americans took it and made it commercial, but believe me, in the 90's and begginig of 2000's bjj was smashing everyone both in the mats and in street fights in Brazil and nobody had the audacity to disrespect it the way you guys do it today
@driver3899
@driver3899 2 ай бұрын
Nice that no one got badly hurt but "Perfect" is a stretch, the guy was at complete mercy of everyone around him. He is lucky a friend or relative of the guy being pinned down didnt rush in to soccer kick the bjj guy in the head. Plus whats his game plan other than have a jujitsu match? The longer he stays there in control but not doing anything the longer he is exposed to danger. Also taking the back is great until the guy pulls a blade from his waistband or pocket and starts to carve up his face. Doing sport jujitsu on the concrete in public is a total gamble.
@kyrolantsberger2659
@kyrolantsberger2659 2 ай бұрын
He’s on top and can see everything around. The game plan is to control the situation. If anybody else started moving in or the guys hands started going towards a weapon draw top guy just needs a couple seconds of elbows and guy is ko’ed. The difference between a trained and untrained person is so vast. If there were environmental concerns, he could have just landed him harder on the takedown.
@Kane-ez
@Kane-ez 2 ай бұрын
The situation has to be perfect for bjj in the street , providing he doesnt have friends with him and then its ok
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc 2 ай бұрын
there are a lot of videos on KZbin showing jujitsu or some sort of grappling being successfully used in a self-defense situation. I guess there’s a lot of perfect situation‘s
@Kane-ez
@Kane-ez 2 ай бұрын
@@CJ-mm4gc if it's one on one which is rare in actual street fights where friends come in and kick you
@tiagosouna
@tiagosouna 2 ай бұрын
in other words, it is better to train kali and have a knife than to train jiu jitsu
@willywonka00
@willywonka00 Ай бұрын
Bro play the video and talk less
@DraacoAventura
@DraacoAventura 2 ай бұрын
He would be kicked and stomped in a busy area. Stop over selling ju-jitsu. It’s a great skill to have if you are getting beaten in standup. The basis of self defense is striking if you are only doing BJJ most people will beat your ass! I am a BJI Purple Belt but my base is a MMA School whew we did grappling with allowed slapps and palm strikes as well as punches with MMA gloves. If you train BJJ and don’t have that understanding you are not a fighter.
@CJ-mm4gc
@CJ-mm4gc 2 ай бұрын
Most people are not trained fighters. I don’t think the guy in the above video is a trained fighter.
@BaconSlayer69
@BaconSlayer69 2 ай бұрын
Ok add more people 😂it’s becomes pointless
@kevinpitts22able
@kevinpitts22able 2 ай бұрын
Who said this was effect with multiple attackers? No one. You’re just mad because you probably don’t do any training whatsoever aside from running your mouth on the internet and know you’d get wrecked in this situation. Go lay down a take a nap somewhere, little boy.
@JonCampo91
@JonCampo91 2 ай бұрын
Just remember, the ground is the most unsafe place to be in a real fight. Pure stupidity to intentionally take it to the ground. If he has a knife or friends, youre done.
@tearsintherain6311
@tearsintherain6311 2 ай бұрын
Yeah but if they grab you then the stakes are 50/50 on who takes the other down, you know what’s worse then being on the ground? Being on the ground while the other person is on top
@donovanb9020
@donovanb9020 2 ай бұрын
You also forgot to mention the used needles and broken glass too. 😱
@lucaneiri5405
@lucaneiri5405 2 ай бұрын
That's why you evaluate the situation and move accordingly. You observe the hands and waistband, you observe your surroundings, and if you can walk away then walk away. If not, go for a blast double, full mount immediately if they have no experience, and go for an arm triangle, Americana. But DO NOT pull guard
@Idk-xi1tr
@Idk-xi1tr 2 ай бұрын
no, its unsafe to stay too long on the ground on a crowded place. Street fights should end quickly anyways
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
i dont disagree, but at times it is our only option. Does not mean we have to hang out there though, as I mentioned. Get to a good spot and work back to your feet quickly and safely
@frankbatista
@frankbatista 2 ай бұрын
“Never take it to the ground” keyboard warriors enter the chat. Yes the ground is dangerous, so is a lucky shot to the chin and your head hitting the ground uncontrollably. “His friends will get you on the ground” yes, they’ll also sucker punch you from behind when you’re jabbing his friend. In the world of KZbin all possibilities are always open all the time. In the real world only SOME things apply at any one time. In ANY case, if you chose wrong you pay the price. Ground work works! You just saw the video. Does it work if the guy has a pocket nuclear bomb? Obviously not! You don’t go to Afghanistan armed with Muay Thai and prayers. You take a rifle and some dangerous friends.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Well said 👏🏼
@robowop9354
@robowop9354 2 ай бұрын
I love bjj & have a ton of respect for the art but its not gonna work if youre outnumbered & you got the guys friends stomping your head or hitting you with weapons.
@staysafemartialarts
@staysafemartialarts 2 ай бұрын
Lot of what ifs that could have happened. Based off of this specific situation, it worked out extremely well
@robowop9354
@robowop9354 2 ай бұрын
@@staysafemartialarts 1 on 1 I actually prefer the ground
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