Why Katakuri is The WEAKEST Commander | One Piece Discussion

[@GLOCKTOBER]

PLEASE READ THESE “QUESTIONS”: Q: “Kat is faster than all of the tobi roppo, he just has weaker haki.” A: It would be very weird if all of the tobi roppo (and other characters) were far stronger than Kat but didn't have the speed to back it up. Q: “The original gear 4 luffy could have beat kaido if he had advanced armament” A: No because he would have gotten blitzed anyways. Q: “The gear 4 that fought Kaido was boundman not snakeman” A: Snakeman trades out power for speed. So I guess Luffy would have gotten more meaningless hits in, but his reaction time wouldn't have changed. Kaido still would have bodied him. Q: It makes no sense for the straw hats to be that strong. A: In Enies Lobby (chap. 383) it’s implied by Zoro that the straw hats have been getting stronger with every island they go to without even realizing it. This would explain random power ups like how Sanji went from having Diable Jambe as a last resort in Enies Lobby but in Thriller Bark he can use it repeatedly, or how Usopp goes from getting beat up by treble in Dressrosa but then in Wano he can take headbutts from Ulti.

[@Hyosung69]

I agree that Kat is the weakest 1 St commander. But I can't agree that he is weaker than all tobi roppo. Black Maria lost to Robin and Sasaki lost to Franky. Page one is a trash one even ussop and nami can handle him. There's on way kat is weaker than these.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@Hyosung69 aye man I made the whole vid and wrote the pinned comment. If that didn’t convince u idk what will.

[@Hyosung69]

@@GLOCKTOBER Bro your video seems biased. Luffy said he needs to use gear 4 against ulti bcz he wants to end the fight quickly. And with with Maria and Sasaki are stronger than KAT? The lost to Robin and Franky both of them didn't know how to use haki and both of them don't have any significant strength, durability, endurance. If you are still saying that Kat is weaker than these then you must have watched one piece from yt shorts.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@Hyosung69 and you must be watching my video in a fish bowl because I already explained why all of what you just said is meaningless lol

[@Hyosung69]

@@GLOCKTOBER No one can change the mind of a fanboy or 🤡 so have it in your way. I have no interest in arguing with you.

[@0nier0s]

I think the biggest issue is that Oda does not believe in power scaling. Consider Crocodile. Defeated by pre-timeskip Luffy, but held his own at Marineford.

[@WesleyZ3]

“Most if not all of the straw hats can beat Kat” 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Still haven’t been proven wrong

[@WesleyZ3]

@@GLOCKTOBER You’re basically saying most of the straw hats can tank as much damage as whole cake island Luffy and have stats to match gear 4 Luffy at that time period.

[@thedome87]

Bro know his video click bait 💀

[@Vihaan8888]

​@@thedome87according to bro Nami , ussop , chopper> gear 4 snakeman

[@AmrAlnamer]

@@GLOCKTOBER your telling me nami usopp chopper robin and brook beat kat your telling me most straw hats are on the lvl of durabilty of that of gear 4 luffy nah only people in the straw hats who beat him are jinbel sanji zoro and luffy and even sanji and jinbel might be a stretch

[@vu1ture668]

Jack states that the Tobi Roppo were no match for the injured Scabbards. Nekomamushi got destroyed by Perospero, who is leagues below Katakuri. if Katakuri washes a character that's tiers above every one of the Tobi Roppo, then he washes the Tobi Roppo.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

9:17

[@obezy8705]

Bro did you watch the video?? Perospero literally just caught catviper lacking as he was detransforming leaving him vulnerable

[@batataplays4837]

Still both the anime and the manga really make It seem like Perospero and Jack should atleast be comparable with both of them only getting the uper hand against Ino and Neko because they lost their Suulomg form and being defeated by oponents that have basicaly the same level of strengh

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@batataplays4837 In the anime a weakened Jack doesn't even attack Inu when he de-transforms whereas Peros immediately attacks Neko while he was off guard. that doesnt seem very even to me.

[@batataplays4837]

@@GLOCKTOBER Jack doesn't atack Inu while he was detransforming because Suulomg Inu wounded him soo much that he could barely stay conscious he literaly says that If Inu had landed one more atack he would have beem done. Also at the start of the Neko vs Perospero fight Neko did as well land an atack on Perospero while he was of guard trying to kill Sanji

[@Xavier-kq9hp]

It’s crazy how some people can be so loud and wrong

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Who🤔me👉😧

[@AlexanderRodriguez-fq7tp]

@@GLOCKTOBERyes you lmao there’s a lot I want to say about this video that you were just completely ignorant to 😂

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@AlexanderRodriguez-fq7tp like???

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@AlexanderRodriguez-fq7tplike??????

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@AlexanderRodriguez-fq7tplike????????????????????????????

[@rayzuke1232]

Imagine being the one guy in the room claiming your ability to dodge does not matter in a fight and doesn't count toward your strengths. Man I remember that being so true when I played Undertale. Sans was really a easy final boss. Died in one hit. It was really underwhelming compared Asgore and Omega Flowey. Those are your main Arguments SHaDX for claiming the tobi roppo are stronger then Katakuri. By the time Luffy got the FIRST hit in on Katakuri every other tobi roppo member would have been defeated. Not to mention that you first have to figure out how Katakuri uses his Mochi in the first place. For all you know as Katakuris opponent is that he is immune to pure physical attacks.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

???

[@rareosbourne3812]

@@GLOCKTOBERbro your entire video is “???”

[@Yuh_zhimmy]

@@GLOCKTOBERyour entire vid is your comment

[@Ottomanlobster4287]

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[@WattsE83]

You’re arguments are beyond flaud When luffy never used future sight nor snakeman against kaido in their first fight Snakeman + future sight>bound man Snakeman + future sight didn’t beat katakuri You could complain all you want but katakuri was the only opponent luffy didn’t out right beat katakuri chose to let him go whether you like it or not thats how the story played out

[@GLOCKTOBER]

my arguments are FLAUD😣aw crap ill delete the video then

[@mr-ov5gt]

​@@GLOCKTOBER you better

[@somedumbassintheinternet]

​@@GLOCKTOBERif I remember he didn't hit katakuri that much on their fight even with snakeman.

[@rohanshahi5731]

​@@GLOCKTOBERyou better fucking do it then it has been 3 months of this comment

[@User_k6-w4i]

​@@GLOCKTOBERdelete this crap video. Remember:when luffy vs katakuri started, katakuri beated up luffy all the time, so stop this TRASH CRAP

[@PER578]

It has not been confirmed that kat can only see 5 seconds. Oda never tells us how many seconds kat can see

[@GLOCKTOBER]

I thought it said something like that in the manga but I guess I was trippin

[@Chutki.mera.haiiiii]

You said Ulti is stronger than KAT and gave explanation but what about others. You just give a stupid reason for that as they are tobi roppo so they must be stronger than him which makes no sense bcz all of them don't have same power. All the calamities are stronger than KAT but all of them don't have same strength or power. King>>>>Queen>>>>>>>>Jack. Jack can't even take sulong dog or cat. But king can fight evenly with Zoro with ACoC and Queen Can fight evenly with awaked sanji. If according to you ulti is stronger than KAT it doesn't mean that other Tobi roppo are stronger than him. There's no way. What are the feats of Maria, page one, Sasaki, All of them lost horribly to even weaker member than pre udon base luffy.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@Chutki.mera.haiiiii Kaidos crew is based on power. The Tobi Roppo are in a tier above the numbers but below the all stars(including Jack). So by that logic they should all be relative to Ulti, which I said in the video.

[@mr-ov5gt]

​@@GLOCKTOBER bs kat beats jack

[@BeyondEllisBeck]

@@GLOCKTOBER you're tripping about a lot of things. Have you been taking your medication? You're delusional if you think that Katakuri is weaker than Ulti, King or Queen. This is honestly disgusting the amount of disrespect you braindead KZbinrs give Katakuri. People that know his skillset and are real fans know that he big mom pirates are far more impressive than the beast pirates. The only person Katakuri can't beat in Wano is Kaido and that's 100% facts. Any character otherwise is getting folded, period.

[@seandunning5614]

I’m sorry but you can’t take every single thing so literally. Obviously usopp and Nami aren’t going to die from a head butt and that doesn’t mean they have an insanely high durability. Also, kaido one shotting luffy is just a story telling device meant show just how powerful kaido was. It doesn’t mean gear 4 luffy would lose to everyone in the Tobi roppo. And it is stupid to assume that all the tobi roppo are gonna be the same strength. They can be different strengths as long as one isn’t stronger than Jack they will continue to be in tobi roppo. Also the tobi roppo are not blitzing katakuris haki lmao.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

“Obviously usopp and Nami aren’t going to die from a head butt and that doesn’t mean they have an insanely high durability.” Why not? Ussop’s consistently had superhuman feats of durability through the series.

[@seandunning5614]

@@michaeldorsey9231 yes I agree however not to the extent that he is describing. It’s like saying that nami is the strongest straw hat cause she’s constantly able to beat up luffy zoro and sanji

[@lazerl8275]

1- Luffy that got one shot by Kaido wasn't using future sight 2- " Luffy vs Kat fight report " this is so stupid because when you read the fight from the manga Kat hit Luffy 60+ max but what this report doesn't mention is that half of these attack just Katkauri toying with Luffy and Luffy running away mid fight. After the first 20 hit Kat made Luffy tired and finished him with his awakening ( Luffy lost but Kat decides to not finish him off with his spear ) that's when the first part ends and Luffy eats mochi and takes a rest. The other 20 hits is Luffy boundman vs Katakuri then Luffy ran away from him ( another loss ) and takes a rest. So why are you counting these hits when Luffy just running away from the fight and taking a rest? This is so disingenuous. For Kat he took 17 hits and one of these hits is a wound in his stomach, this hole in the stomach could kill and stop almost all of the characters you mentioned in the video 3- Luffy that "won" vs Katakuri was weaker then him, when he clashed with his snake man armament Kat's armament was still far stronger, - Kat's observation was also still better he was that one that had the upper hand in terms of reaction speed and counter attacking, Katakuri stopped using his spear to not kill Luffy, Katakuri 2 shotted Snake man, Luffy couldn't tank more than one buzz cut mochi the other one knocked him out and Kat was the last man standing 4- Luffy was fighting both Ulti and Page one at the same time and he one shot page one who's pretty much equal to Ulti so he doesn't need gear 4 as you claim he only needed gear 4 because he was trapped like he was vs Doflamingo, Ulti gets one shot like her brother. Also Luffy wasn't using advanced armament vs Ulti when they clashed (how are you so bad at scaling lol) 5- Luffy and X drake matching their attacks vs a number means nothing unless you think when Sanji and Zoro matched their attacks vs King and Queen are equal, and when Killer and Zoro matched their attacks vs Kaido. what a funny guy 6- Future sight can't be blitzed but can be matched, speed and observation haki both counters each other, even someone like Kaido couldn't fully blitz base Luffy who's not as good as Kat's observation and can't even shape his body to dodge, another example Kaido without using future sight he wouldn't be able to dodge snake man Katakuri destroys all of Kaido's crew and all of Luffy's crew. this video is nonsense.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

1. It is debatable on wether or not he was using future sight in that instance. There is never anything that necessarily says that he isnt “calm”. And what constitutes “calm” in OP is certainly debatable. Because Kaido is able to use future sight while in a drunken rage after BM’s defeat. Luffy is also able to use it while screaming at Kaido on rooftop as well. 2. Idk why you don't count the other 53 hits Luffy took whereas Kat still only took 13. I also don't know why your acting like Kat didn't get two rests as well(he literally has his designated break time for one of them) You completely misunderstood Kats stab to the stomach as well. He did that to himself to even the fight, because earlier Luffy took the SAME HIT while being distracted by Flame. And you say “this hole to the stomach could kill and stop most of the characters you mentioned” Ulti gets shot by maser cannon through the stomach (and keeps fighting) Black Maria gets her spine broken Page One takes a conquerors punch from BM (internal destruction) Kiku gets her arm chopped off and stabbed by Kanjuro 3. If anything the armament thing only helps in Luffy's case, since he took more pain from Kats “stronger” armament. You also say “two shotted” as if snakeman and Kat weren't trading blows mid fight. The spear also doesn’t matter because from all the attacks we have seen the spear wouldn’t be fast enough to hit snakeman. After all, base Luffy dodges it a number of times. You also say that Kat is the last man standing… but the final panel is literally Luffy standing above him. 4. Luffy hitting P1 barely counts as a one shot because he got up right after. The only thing that P1 said hurt was his jaw. Secondly, I already went over this in the video, but why didn't Luffy use gear 2nd or 3rd to break free. Even if Luffy wasn’t using advanced arms Ulti is still able to clash with his base armament that is stronger than Kats. 5. Oftentimes when Oda shows two characters in page spread he emphasizes that they are relative in power. I don't see why Zoro and Sanji, at that time, couldn’t be relative in power. It's the same thing with Zoro and Killer. They were relative at that moment because of Zoro holding back. 6. If speed can “counter future sight” thats a fuckin blitz. And rooftop Luffy not having as good of future sight as Kat makes no sense. His observation was at least on par with Kats in their battle, then he trained it even more throughout the arc. Finally if your using the “snakeman in Whole Cake = to snakeman in Wano just get out of here.

[@lazerl8275]

@@GLOCKTOBER 1- No it's not that's the basis of using observation haki, Katakuri already confirmed it and Mihawk did as well when Luffy dodged his attack he said to Luffy that you're calmer than i expected, Kaido was clam when he dodged snake man attacks 2- What other 53? All attacks that Luffy took are 57+ max in the manga unless you scale filler anime scenes? Kat didn't need these two rest Luffy did that's a huge difference, Yes he made a hole that could kill almost all the characters you mentioned, yes Luffy took the same stab but Luffy turned out to be a mythical Zoan, now before you say he's only a Zoan when he's in gear 5 you need to prove that first, his fruit is not a special one it's a mythical Zoan so he's a Zoan all the time, Ulti was knocked out stop lying she didn't keep fighting she got back up after a few chapter just to get one shot again by Nami and there wasn't a hole in her stomach because the attack was like lightning from the inside, Maria loses, Page one gets one shotted, kiku gets healed by Kinemon and cries when he gets stabbed by Kanjuro lol, what are these examples that are you coming up with? 3- It helps his case if only he didn't run away during the fight and took rests when ever he gets hit by Kat, Yes it was a 2 named attacks 2 shot the unnamed attacks are irrelevant unless you're one of those who thinks that unnamed attacks are same as named attacks, spear does matter in a long fight his spear attacks will eventually hit Luffy, base Luffy can dodge his spear attacks but for how long? Base Luffy can't dodge his awakening that he stopped using for plot reasons as well, yes Kat was the last man standing and when he collapsed he closed his eyes, his eyes didn't go white he wasn't knocked out, yeah he was after 10 minutes of the fight ending but even then Kat was standing above Luffy before Luffy 4- Luffy got back up after getting one shot by Kaido i guess that doesn't count as one shot? Like i said Ulti raw strength was too much weight for Luffy that's why he was going for gear 4 to break out from her like he did vs DOFLAMINGO when he broke his strings, his base armament is not stronger than Kat he clashed with Kat and he was crying out of pain are you even reading what are you typing? You don't make sense 5- Cool, then Egghead Lucci = Luffy, Kaku = Zoro. 6- Speed and Fs both counter each other but the edge for future sight since Luffy needed both speed and future sight to beat Kat not only speed, It's not on par with Kat and i already explained why, Kat reaction speed was way better than Luffy's, of course Wci Snake man = Wano Snake man nothing changed the only thing that changed is his AP

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@lazerl8275 1- Again Kaido is literally drunk while fighting snakeman and Luffy is screaming at him while they both read the future. 2- literally what are u on Luffy took over 100 attacks from Katakuri while Kat only took 13.(this is all in the manga) AGAIN what are u on both fighters got rest during Kats Merienda and while Luffy ran away. And you keep saying that all of the characters that I mentioned would die to that same attack when all of the examples I talked about are of characters not dying to fatal moves. On top of that P1 literally took a conquerors hit from BM, that does internal damage. This conquerors hit is be stronger than ANY attack Kat can put up and if your going to argue that Kat has more ap than BM then this convo is ending right here. 3- Kat took rests too we already went over this. Then you try to argue that all unnamed attacks are irrelevant… :| and if base Luffy is able to doge Kats “Mochi Thrust” attack that he takes a couple of seconds to charge then snakeman can do it as well. Then you say that Luffy didnt win because Kat wasnt KO’ed… even though he fell on the ground and COULD NOT FIGHT ANYMORE. If he could than Luffy probably would have lost. You also mention that Kat was standing before Luffy at the end without mentioning that Luffy had to climb out of a hole. 4- In both instances where Luffy gets one shot by Kaido he is KO’ed for minutes if not hours. Whereas P1 and Ulti got up and were ready to chase/fight Luffy again. And again with Ulti, in the anime, Luffy tries to kick her and it does nothing. Its the same thing in his fight vs Doffy Luffy knew that he couldnt do anything to him in his other gears or base so he jumped to gear 4. You also say that Luffys base armament is not stronger than Kat even though its stronger than snakemans armament that is equal to Katakuri. You brought up base Luffy and Kat clashing even though I already went over why base Luffy in Wano is stronger than his G4 form against Kat. 5- I never said that when Oda uses a page spread that characters are equal to eachother, I only said that they are relative. If anything what you said, while still being wrong, does have some merit to it. Since other CP0 members can defeat a tobbi roppo member, that being X Drake. 6- Your saying future sight has the edge over speed because Luffy needed both to defeat Kat. This argument makes no sense because Luffy at that moment wasnt massively faster than Katakuri so of course he needed future sight. Your also saying all of these arguments as if Wano Luffy and WC Luffy are exactly the same which is just the stupidest thing I've heard. Not even the most diehard fans of Kat would use that argument because its shown multiple times in the story that Luffy has surpassed his power level in WC. Thats not even including the multiple arguments that I've used, no its literally narratively and feats wise shown to us by Oda himself.

[@handsmcgee8331]

Yea it’s important to know the context of that fight, Kat was definitely stronger than Luffy at that point. If he uses his main weapon the whole time, doesn’t stab himself & doesn’t fall on his back giving his respect to Luffy then it’s pretty obvious what the outcome would be. It kinda felt like Kat was fighting to Luffy’s level by the end imo, he doesn’t deserve the disrespect he gets but also shouldn’t be overrated like Brago & KOL do for example lol

[@SM1LE2006]

@@GLOCKTOBER Katakuri didn’t rest, he only thought that he won the fight, it’s like saying kaido rested after defeating luffy

[@150Hello]

The Toppi Roppo are being heavily overestimated when they don't really have ANY impressive feats to scale them above Katakuri. Let's start with Ulti who gets wanked quite a bit for some reason, I'd dare say even more than Kata himself 😅 Some common arguments for her: • "Ulti overpower Post Udon Luffy" *She barely overpowered base Luffy not even using Ryou. Luffy even says he underestimated her before blitzing her and dislocating Page One's jaw* • "Luffy needed Gear 4th to beat Ulti" *Her grip is literally just a leverage advatange which has nothing to do with striking power. Ulti barely overpowered base Luffy, who was not using Advanced Haki. What makes ya'll think Ulti could even beat Gear 2nd? Luffy literally blitzes her in his base form, which is way slower than Gear 2nd. Does Ulti scale to Red Hawk, which hit Kaido on the roof top now? lol* Gear 4th with Advanced Haki is not weaker than Gear 2nd+3rd Luffy using Red Hawk. So scaling her that high doesn’t even work. As for the other Toppi Roppo members... *Sasaki - Literally fodder who was mid diffed by Franky. Neither have any relevant feats that suggest that they can beat Katakuri* *Who's Who - Jimbei ate his attack and dropped him... Honestly, Jimbei is the only relevant character here that has good AP. Hell, he pushed back Big Mom in WCI. Though this doesn't really suggest much for Who's Who, he's still a fodder* *Black Maria - Got folded by Robin. Has no relevant scaling to Katakuri* *X-Drake - literally has no impressive feats. The dude couldn't even stop Pre-Onigashima Sanji from passing through* *Ulti - Has an impressive recovery rate and is pretty strong but also overrated for the reasons above* *Page One - Jaw was dislocated by Luffy using 3rd and no Ryou. No real notable feats* *Katakuri literally has every advantage here. Especially in the speed department, let alone paired with Future Sight. I'm not seeing how he doesn't murder stomp them? We even see Perospero, who is way weaker than Katakuri and not even a Sweet Commander, be comparable to Jack, who is narratively above all the Tobbi Roppo* The Toppi Roppo don't have any evidence that would suggest their > Katakuri. Not by feats or narrative.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

The logic of “the Tobi Roppo being weaker than Katakuri” has a bunch of holes in it when we look at Luffy vs the twins. Post Udon Luffy is stronger than his G4 against Kat. By your logic, Ulti gets stomped by Kat, this means that Luffy is struggling with an opponent who he can “apparently” completely destroy easily. I understand that he’s holding back but as I said in the video, Ulti still would have lost that clash if she wasn’t at least near him in power. Advanced arms doesn’t really matter here either because base Luffy should have equal haki levels to his G4 in Whole Cake without it, since all of his other attributes were enhanced as well. On to the grip thing, sure it is a different move than striking but at the same time Luffy's legs are still free. The anime shows Luffy trying to use a Gum-Gum Spear on Ult but let's just disregard this for the sake of less confusion. In just the manga, Luffy still had the option to use Jet Stamp ,Jet Spear, maybe Jet Axe, and all the other leg attacks that he has with advanced haki or just regular armament. But no, he decided to go into his final form, the one that takes up most of his energy. Btw we aren’t saying that Luffy needs to go ALL OUT to beat Ulti. He most likely would have used G4 to one shot her,(like he did against the Numbers) he was in a rush after all. However, that's the thing Luffy knew that he needed G4 in that instance to quickly get past her. He couldn’t do it with his other Gears or his base. So this should put her somewhere above Luffy's base or at least above G4 in WCI. Also we both know that Luffy is stupid but you can't deny that he is an expert when it comes to combat instinct. He knows when to implement certain forms or attacks for different fights, so when he used G4 against Ulti, it wasn’t pointless. (if you don't understand this I have a good pokemon analogy if you play those games I don't wanna make this comment too long) Page One also got hit by a G3 uppercut. The G3 that stakes on top of base Luffy who is stronger than G4 WCI. So if P1 was really so much weaker than Kat then he should be completely KO’ed not getting up a minute later talking about his jaw. Again the advanced Haki thing really doesn’t matter in this instance because base Luffy should have overall stronger Haki than G4 WCI. For the other Tobi Roppo they all scale to Ulti and P1 so they are stronger than Kat as well. Saying that they have no feats is like saying Katakuri has no feats that put him above Doflamingo, even though he scales to a stronger Luffy. I would also like to give you the fact that the Straw Hats get stronger with every island that they go to. Finally both Peros and Jack are the two characters who fcked over the Minks the most so of course they are going to be on the same page getting one shot. Doesn’t necessarily mean that they have equal power. The argument that Katakuri is stronger than the Tobi Roppo has a lot of holes in it, but if you just accept that Kat is fodder than it makes more sense.

[@150Hello]

@GLOCKTOBER "Post Udon Luffy is stronger than his Gear 4 against Kat" OK, imma have to stop you right there. What evidence is there that Udon Luffy's Haki bloom put his base above Post WCI G4? That's completely baseless. Luffy is able to slightly damage Kaido with a special form of Haki, which bypasses outer durability does not equate to Base Luffy being > Pre Udon G4. There isn't a single feat from Base Luffy post Udon before the Conqueror's Infusion that is remotely on the same level of even Dressrosa King Kong Gun. The main thing that he benefits from is the advanced application of Haki that he used to negate Kaido's durability. Which funnily enough he didn't use against the Tobbi Roppo... Post Conqueror's Infusion, he is >>>> ACT1 Bound Man. Base form beginning of Onigashima? There is no evidence of that. He was still fodder to Kaido. Even with help from the Supernovas, he got blitzed and knocked out cold multiple times in the same fashion as his G4 self from the beginning of the arc. There's no evidence of some super saiyan type of increase for Post Udon Luffy in the beginning of Onigashima. *The Tobbi Robbo are not manhandling Bound Man in any capacity. The issue here is that you are over scaling. You are highly underestimating how monstrous Gear 4th Boundman is. Your arguments heng on massive haki increases that suddenly shoots several characters above G4 from previous arcs with no evidence to support it, while severely downplaying Pre Udon Luffy. Hell, I'm not even confident that Jack can strike harder then early Boundman because that would be insulating that Jack could replicate Luffy's feat of dropping Kaido in the first fight (Yeah, Kaido wasn't damaged but I still have a hard time seeing Jack or any of the tobbi roppo pulling that off) The Tobbi Roppo don't have any feat to scale them to G4 at all. There is no concrete evidence from the manga you can pull to say the tobbi roppo are a whole tier above Boundman Luffy* *As a matter of fact, Post WCI Boundman Luffy is more impressive than Queen is. Luffy, even though he was not able to cause any damage to Drunken Kaido, was at least able to drop him to the ground. Queen in his strongest form could not get Big Mom off her feet at all, and this is Amnesia Big Mom, who arguably doesn't remember how to use Haki and she two shotted him with unnamed attacks compared to Kaido, who at least Ko'd Luffy with a signature attack that he flew straight into. Big Mom even had to bring her arms up and use Haki to block G4 Boundman back in WC*

[@150Hello]

Oh, and Katakuri would beat Pre Udon Luffy in a fight every time because of his G4 time limit. Luffy had to flee the scene to recharge his haki, Katakuri had no issue blitzing around G4 Snakeman attacks or overpowering G4 Boundman with power mochi, which isn’t even his strongest attack. Him seeing Luffy as an equal was out of respect, not because Base Luffy really was equal to him. Otherwise, Luffy wouldn't need g4 snakeman to beat him. Even Kaido acknowledged Luffy multiple times WHILE he was stomping him 🫤

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@150Hello So on the rooftop it is clearly shown that base Luffy can dodge Kaidos Thunder Bagua whereas the G4 from Whole cake got completely blitzed. I dont like saying these types of things but here, Oda is clearly showing us that Luffy has surpassed his G4 for in Kuri. Kaido uses the same attack to test whether or not Luffy got stronger than when they previously fought and he did. Its also backed up by the training Luffy did in Udon prison. He didn't just learn advanced arms because while he was chained in seastone, he physically trains his body without his df powers. If it were just Luffy getting advanced arms then he wouldnt have the speed to dodge the Bagua or the durability to get hit by base Kaido. Advanced arms is really just a way to damage Kaido. It does help with power in general, but Luffy really was just using it to effectively hurt Kaido. His base haki should have been increased along with all of his other stats since he was training with it. You also brought up the point that Luffy gets slapped by Kaido multiple times while on the rooftop. If anything that only helps my case by saying that, Luffy has better endurance and durability than his previous G4. He also didnt get completely KO’ed until hybrid Kaido which isnt really relevant rn since were speaking on base Kaido. There is an argument that, while in Kuri, G4 Luffy wasnt using future sight because he wasnt calm. However we know that the visual indicator for future sight is flimsy and Kaido can use future sight while he is in a drunken episode. Luffy can use future sight when he was screaming at that same Kaido as well. Also what does Kong Gun in Dressrosa have anything to do with this. Again its like saying that Katakuri cant do the same thing because we have never seen it… even though he scales to a stronger Luffy. So clearly all of Luffy’s stats were increased in Udon he didnt just learn advanced arms. For the Queen thing, he literally knocked out Big Mom whereas WCI Luffy used all of his stamina to tap her. Queen also didnt get two shotted, he got up right after and thought of a plan to try and stop her. “Luffy pushed Kaido over” cool… did no damage though. On the topic of the Katakuri fight itself, Luffy fled the fight when Katakuri had virtually no damage taken. Luffy is the one who comes back all beat up and in the second round of thier fight Kat takes far less hits than Luffy (only 13) and he still loses. So the second round of their fight was pretty equal but if anything Luffy walked in with a disadvantage. Katakuri says base Luffy is on his level some time later. Idk what else that could mean besides them being equals or near eachother in power. We know its not respect because base Luffy could actually hit Kat on top of learning future sight. Keep in mind both are getting stronger throughout the fight so of course Luffy would eventually need Snakeman.

[@150Hello]

@GLOCKTOBER Post Udon Luffy was STILL no match for Kaido, who was still too fast for Luffy even with Future Sight, and Kaido was STILL dropping off Luffy Post Udon when his hits connected. Kaido is not really a good measuring stick for speed progression either because he allows people to attack him for free. Kaido even has Future Sight and opts not to use it. Beginning of Post Base Udon Luffy does not give Kaido a decent fight by himself at ALL. You're ignoring the fact that he has backup from law, killer, Zoro, and kid. You're ignoring he was still knocked out multiple times when hit cleanly just like the first fight. Yeah, his strength increased from training his body while in seastone, but to assert that his Udon Base is > previous G4 is headcanon. He didn't showcase any enhanced Durability and was still one-shot material if Kaido landed direct hits. You would literally be suggesting that if Luffy didn't have help from the other Supernovas he could trade blows and speed blitz Kaido on his own with his Gears during the 2nd fight when that's not how it went down, he was still no match after the Udon training and showed no significant feats other than being able to dura neg Kaido with Advanced Armament and somewhat respond to a Thunder Bagua with Future Sight. A clean hit from a Thunder Bagua would still drop Post Udon Luffy from the beginning of the fight the same way as his Pre Udon self. *During the first fight, he went full momentum into Kaido's Thunder Bagua, which not only would give it additional power but would make it impossible for him to evade it as well. He used Future Sight post Udon while on defense, and it still grazed him. He even calls Kaido "too fast" He does adapt and get better as the fight goes on but you aren't really taking into account how many times Kaido knocked Luffy out cold even with back up from the other SuperNovas. Gear 4 Post Udon should speed blitz Kaido into oblivion going by your logic* "Oda is clearly showing us that he surpassed his gear 4 against Katakuri." *Looking at it logically, you should be able to piece together why using that statement from Katakuri makes no sense to scale Luffy. Luffy is in literal base form when Kat makes that statement. We saw a composed Katakuri overpowering G4 Boundman with his Power Mochi which isn't his strongest move, and then we see him go on to fight on par with G4 Snakeman Luffy which would be >>> Luffy's base. Hell, after the statement. Katakuri literally says he is stronger and faster than him WHILE Luffy is in Snakeman (which is actually shown during the fight) since you want to take an out of context statement as literal proof* *Does it really make sense for Base Luffy to be = to Katakuri at that point from that one statement when Kat clearly goes on to keep up with a stronger and faster transformation tailor made for him right afterwards? He was still blitzing around a crazy amount of Snakeman Luffy's attacks and was still overpowering the Haki of a stronger and faster Luffy. Clearly, Base Luffy being equal to Katakuri at that point doesn't make any sense, especially if we were to start both of them back at 100% again with no outside interferences* "For Queen he literally knocked out Big Mom" *Queen did not damage Big Mom at all. She simply regained her memory and took a nap. It is directly stated that she took no damage. Luffy, although not able to cause any damage to Drunken Kaido, was at least able to drop him to the ground. Queen in his strongest form could not get Big Mom off her feet at all* As for the rematch between Kat and Luffy. Luffy outright says: "I want to surpass him!!! I want to beat the billion beri man at his best." It doesn't mean that he does. This was after he ran away to recharge his Haki. In a fair fight, Luffy logically still would not win due to G4s Time Limit. *The statement is clearly Katakuri respecting Luffy, the same as Kaido, It doesn't at all prove Pre-Udon Luffy is stronger than Katakuri. Kaido literally has multiple statements like this towards Luffy even before Gear 5th. It's mostly to highlight Luffy's undying will. It's Katakuri giving Luffy respect the same way Kaido was* *None of the tobbi roppo scale to the advanced haki Luffy that then goes on to experience multiple haki blooms and then gains Conqueror's Infusion from repeated beat downs against Kaido They scale below a Post Udon Luffy whose haki increase is unquantifiable. He wasn't entirely serious during his clash with Ulti, who gained momentum to headbutt him while he was in a stationary position, even tells her as much before he then goes on to blitz her in Base. Lol at them keeping up with boundman or snakeman* *BTW, Luffy's Armament Haki never surpassed Katakuri's on Whole Cake. His Haki was still weaker. Kat inflicted an injury onto himself to even out Flampe's interference, which is literally the only reason the tempo of the fight changed more toward an even fight until Kat caught his 2nd wind during the Snakeman exchange. Prior to this Katakuri was in complete control of the fight even when Luffy made him lose his composure and landed several hits on him in Boundman, once Kat recovered Luffy couldn't tag him any more and his Boundman got overpowered by Power Mochi* *Before you even say it, yes, Flampe did catch Luffy with tranquilizer dart, but he literally ran away to recharge his Haki and was SAVED by Brulee So, if anything, Flampe interfering would even the score for Luffy using Brulee to escape and recharge his Haki earlier. Otherwise, Luffy would have lost then and there* Point is that neither the tobbi roppo nor post udon base Luffy have any relevant scaling to G4 at all to make the assessment that they are all > Katakuri. Speed wise, it is not comparable at all. Queen was getting dodged and out speed by Pre-Exo Skelton Sanji multiple times. Only tagged him with heavy haymaker shots here and there mixed with Germa Tech. Compared to Katakrui, who can dodge several Black Mamaba punches in slow mo, which accelerate and change trajectory, Queen doesn't really have any relevant Scaling to Kat. King most certainly is > Kat, but Queen and the Tobbi Roppo have some pretty sorry showings to argue them being leagues above Post WCI Luffy and Kat.

[@Heaththegrat]

you're calling him the weakest commander and there's commanders weaker than him 💀i ain't no fanboy of katakuri but the explaining of him being the weakest is dull and i refuse to believe. the tobiroppo is far weaker than katakuri and the reason luffy didn't fight ulti was cuz he didn't have time to, he was going straight for kaido. the only ones who'll give katakuri a decent challenge would be xdrake (former member) and whos-whos. katakuri can possibly beat queen and defiantly jack, also the strongest commander of the big mom pirates, katakuri could've easily won if he killed luffy before he got back up, except he had respect. katakuri isn't the weakest commander, maybe the weakest first commander but yea, video ain't convincing anyone L

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Katakuri can.. can destroy Jack but whos-who and drake.. nawww. Did you see how.. how fast and cool those two were. They can put up a good f-fight because Katakuri is cool too but nawwww not Jack 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@geckotamer8886]

@@GLOCKTOBERhe only said that drake and whos-who would give Kat more of a challenge than the other tobi roppo, I didn’t see him say anywhere that Jack would be easier to defeat than either of them. And for a conversation that’s debating a topic, resorting to you using a mocking tone about something that someone said shows that you’re either too lazy to give an actual response, or you don’t have anything to back up your claim and would rather insult the person

[@rareosbourne3812]

Bros onto nothing 😭😭

[@davidsanchezlll7463]

nah bro said chopper can beat katakuri 💀

[@AmrAlnamer]

right💀

[@aidene.nguyen]

So, here is something, Katakuri did not lose to Luffy. Atleast not in the way other opponents lost to Luffy. A lot of you forget key context. 1. Katakuri and Luffy fight went on for about 11 hours. You want to tell me in all the off screen periods, Luffy still only landed 13 hits? Highly unlikely, Luffy most likely landed a lot of hits off screen. 2. The way Katakuri v Luffy ending is portrayed in the manga is slightly different from the anime. In the manga, Luffy fell and lost consciousness and then Katakuri fell. Now we know the normal rules for anime engagement, you fall first? You lose? I think it was intentional the way this was portrayed. But here is the kicker when Luffy was up, Katakuri was already up. But I'm willing to concede that at this point it's a draw. The anime did indeed portray a draw. 3. Then pay close attention here, Katakuri fell forward after having a brief chat with Luffy. How do I know this? Brulee spoke later she said "You fell on your back on purpose didn't you? I saw you falling forward at first, weren't you doing that? I'm wondering why" To which Katakuri says "But Brulee even in my normal life, my back having never touched the ground is just one big lie" To which Brulee responded "Yes, I know that"... This tells me two main things. a. Brulee is a trust worthy observer for confirming she already knew Kat's past and was not just being wishful. b. Kat was falling forwards then fell backwards. 4. This 4th one is where I want you to pay attention the most. This is the most important. When Kat asked Luffy the question about coming back, his arms where on his side. But when Kat fell, he had raised his arms from his side to a crucifix position. Now tell me, who, in any manga, when fainting or losing consciousness raises their hands from their sides to a crusifix position. It simply tells me Katakuri was fully aware and "conceded" defeat, even though he was in no way physically overwhelmed. Now, I have seen people point out, Katakuri wobbled, duh, he just took hits from snake man, of course he'd wobble. He was fighting for about 11 hours!! Now the next objection I here is "Katakuri let out a spurt of blood before falling, to which I do concede that happened and is infact the only thread to connect Katakuri losing. But here is the caveat, if Katakuri was looking to sell a loss, then, a cough, and a fall on your back is just the way to go. P.S When Katakuri said I no longer think you are much weaker than me, he meant Luffy, in all his tenacity and power... Not just his "Base" form. He didn't really concede being weaker, he just said, "I no longer think you are much weaker than me"... Ulti holding Luffy down means nothing. Even Katakuri trapped Luffy. This is not a testament of Ulti's strength over Katakuri or Luffy, it's simply Katakuri being ill equipped to keep Luffy down given the Luffy can consume large amounts of food in seconds. If you trap a man who literally spends a third of his time eating, with mochi, you better believe he will eat his way out. It's kind of like implying something a kin to Luffy beating Enel, who seemed like a god was not a match up issue but simply Luffy being stronger. No. Half of the reason Luffy won was cause the electricity just couldn't affect him. Back to Ulti, Luffy couldn't escape from Ulti cause he isn't a cannibal. But he escaped from Kat cause Kat uses Mochi Lol... Luffy saying her power is too strong does not mean she is stronger than Luffy. It just means she restrained Luffy and it was a stronger power than he thought. Capturing Luffy is not a feat of superior strength. It was a very specific match up issue. So now here is the sitch, if we can't establish that Luffy beat Katakuri physically, then in what world does it make sense to cap Kat's power at Gear 4? Ya'll need to start watching fights with context. Not every win is a feat of strength. Some of it is simply match up issues (Kat v Luffy was a match up issue, Kat simply faced a person who wasn't gonna lose, Luffy v Enel was a match up issue, How about Luffy v Garp at Marineford?) Do we say Zoro is stronger than Luffy at Thriller Bark cause he took the damage Luffy took and lost consciousness without losing consicousness? Some wins are feats of strength. Some wins are feats of intelligence. Some wins are feats of will. Beating one fighter does not mean you get to beat another. Kat lost to Luffy. Not in the physical strength department but in the will department. Anyone with less will and drive than Luffy in that power range is gonna get bodied since if Kat fell intentionally then we don't really know the limits of his physical endurance or strength. Ya'll power scaling and interpretation of the story is seriously flawed. But it's O.K. Gotta push the agenda right? We need to start scaling and accounting for match-ups. This is a documented phenomena in individual sports. For instance Djokovic an be the greatest Tennis player in the world but there are 3 players who he has faced and not beaten...meaning they have winning records against him/ Each has a 2-0 record vs him, yet cannot be said to be better than him. A crude example but you get it. Kat lost cause he faced a bad match up. Not cause he is weaker than most of the Wano characters.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

“1. Katakuri and Luffy fight went on for about 11 hours. You want to tell me in all the off screen periods, Luffy still only landed 13 hits? Highly unlikely, Luffy most likely landed a lot of hits off screen.” By that metric Kat likely landed more blows off screen as well. So even if Luffy’s punches aren’t limited to the 13 or so seen on panel, Kat would still hold the majority of hits landed through the fight. “In the manga, Luffy fell and lost consciousness and then Katakuri fell. Now we know the normal rules for anime engagement, you fall first? You lose? I think it was intentional the way this was portrayed. But here is the kicker when Luffy was up, Katakuri was already up. But I'm willing to concede that at this point it's a draw.” While Luffy did fall unconscious first, he had the added damage of falling down a deep chasm after the floor gave out beneath him. Both Kat and Luffy were conscious briefly after their hits landed at the same time, Luffy just had the additional damage from the fall to render him unconscious while Kat just fell unconscious from Luffy’s hit. “ Then pay close attention here, Katakuri fell forward after having a brief chat with Luffy. How do I know this? Brulee spoke later she said "You fell on your back on purpose didn't you? I saw you falling forward at first, weren't you doing that? I'm wondering why" “ Brulee was referring to the instance where Kat fell unconscious before his final talk with Luffy, where we blatantly see him fall on his front initially. “When Kat asked Luffy the question about coming back, his arms where on his side. But when Kat fell, he had raised his arms from his side to a crucifix position. Now tell me, who, in any manga, when fainting or losing consciousness raises their hands from their sides to a crusifix position. It simply tells me Katakuri was fully aware and "conceded" defeat, even though he was in no way physically overwhelmed.” I don’t see how it’s impossible for someone to faint from exhaustion and their arms flop down into a different position from their initial placement, especially when the person falling back is super tall. At least from some vids I’ve seen of people fainting/losing consciousness and falling it is possible for arms to go from being close to the side to falling out in an outstretched position. And yes, Kat was absolutely overwhelmed by Luffy. He couldn’t even overpower base Luffy with his stronger punches, there is no way he holds the strength advantage over Snakeman Luffy.

[@aidene.nguyen]

@@michaeldorsey9231 1. You have no proof that Luffy didn't land more hits than Kat off screen. All you know is Kat landed way more hits onscreen. 2. Brulee clearly says falling on his back on purpose. You haven't addressed that part. I'll need that addressed. In this case, Brulee is a reliiable witness since she knows the myth of Kat never touching the floor, acknowledges its truth and still point out Kat's behavior to us. 3. I'd like to see one of such videos please. I've never seen that in real life. When you faint you lose muscle tone, Kat didn't seem to. Actually his arms got raised to his side. I agree Kat didn't overpower luffy, but does that by implication mean Luffy overpowered Kat? That's not a logical line of argument. No one's saying he holds a strength advantage. But holding the strength advantage and winning are two different things think Luffy v Ulti or Luffy v Ceaser, or Luffy v Enel, in these three fights the clearly stronger character clearly lost. Of what use is your infinite strength if it cannot break my defenses? That's my argument, I argue we haven't seen Kat truly lose, we are in ambigous territory here and we haven't seen his max strength. There are contexts to a number of losses in OP (Garp at Hachinosu, Kat, Kaido to Luffy, Luffy to Ceaser, Luffy to Ulti, Enel to Luffy etc) And Kat's context is he seems to have decided (whether due too exhaustoon or passivity) to stop fighting.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

@@aidene.nguyen “You have no proof that Luffy didn't land more hits than Kat off screen. All you know is Kat landed way more hits onscreen.” I mean, if we’re going to speculate on stuff that happened off panel, then using what’s shown on panel seems fair enough for judging based on patterns. Even when Luffy’s future sight improves by chapter 894 and he’s dodging more of Kat’s attacks, Kat is still landing more punches on Luffy than the other way around. As we incriminately cut back to them from various events occurring around Toto Land Kat is the only one landing hits on Luffy. Once we cut back to them before Luffy uses Snakeman, he’s on the ground while Kat’s still standing upright. Based on that surrounding context, does it make any sense to say that in that time Luffy landed “a lot” of blows on Kat, much less enough to match the number of hits Kat provably landed on him? “Brulee clearly says falling on his back on purpose.” He fell on his back as opposed to falling forward like before, when Snakeman landed King Cobra on him. That was pretty much the extent of what Kat could do just after getting up, he could really only decide which direction he fell in. “I'd like to see one of such videos please. I've never seen that in real life. When you faint you lose muscle tone, Kat didn't seem to. Actually his arms got raised to his side.” I don’t know how accurate that statement about “losing muscle tone” is, considering that in some of the fainting vids I’ve seen some of them keeping muscles contracted (ie. Heather McDonald fainting backwards with her left arm initially straight by her side, but then her arm was bent upwards while not being propped up by anything). The closest I could find as a 1 to 1 comparison to Kat’s fainting was in People Passing out Compilation - Best of Faints HD by BpHQuex, around 3:02, a girl with her arms by her sides (though a little behind her and bent) falls backwards, and her upper arms land more level with her shoulders. “I agree Kat didn't overpower luffy, but does that by implication mean Luffy overpowered Kat? That's not a logical line of argument.” Just going by the number of hits landed on panel, yes Luffy absolutely overpowered Kat whenever his punches actually landed. Being a bit more fair and looking at the actual punches on panel, Snakeman Luffy was landing punches that were not only damaging Kat, but they were pushing/throwing him around the Mirrorworld, despite Kat using Block Mochi arms to defend himself. Even being further fair to Kat and saying that he got a Haki bloom which put him on par with Snakeman’s normal punches (which is supported by his Block Mochi punches not only matching Snakeman’s fists but also causing Luffy pain like he experienced previously in base), one King Cobra from Luffy was enough to knock Kat unconscious whereas one Diced Mochi wasn’t enough to knock out Snakeman and Kat needed to follow it up with another, meaning at the very least that Luffy’s strongest attack (not counting King Kong Gun) was stronger than Kat’s. “No one's saying he holds a strength advantage.” I’ve seen too many people say that elsewhere, that Kat was much stronger than Luffy and that Luffy lasting as long as he did was plot armor. “ But holding the strength advantage and winning are two different things think Luffy v Ulti or Luffy v Ceaser, or Luffy v Enel, in these three fights the clearly stronger character clearly lost.” Luffy wasn’t going all out against Caesar and Ulti as he underestimated them, and he even had dialogue/feats supporting such. I don’t know who you’re considering the stronger character between Luffy or Enel, but if it’s the latter then I strongly disagree. In the case of Kat we have no reason to assume that he was deliberately holding back through most of the fight. From the beginning he considered Luffy as a potential future threat to Big Mom and wanted to prevent that from happening, and he even stated his frustration early on when none of his attacks were keeping Luffy down. “Of what use is your infinite strength if it cannot break my defenses?” You mean like how G4 Luffy (Boundman and Snakeman) overpowered Kat several times despite blocking with Block Mochi arms? “That's my argument, I argue we haven't seen Kat truly lose, we are in ambigous territory here and we haven't seen his max strength.” What basis is there that we haven’t seen it? There’s no in character reason for Kat to hold back, especially by the end when he states that he no longer looks down on Luffy’s power, and he has no better showings against anyone else. “There are contexts to a number of losses in OP (Garp at Hachinosu, Kat, Kaido to Luffy, Luffy to Ceaser, Luffy to Ulti, Enel to Luffy etc)” None of which apply here in Kat’s favor. He wasn’t swarmed by numerous enemies while simultaneously fighting Luffy, he wasn’t fighting someone who could out hax him, he wasn’t fighting someone who was less injured than himself, he wasn’t fighting someone who could take advantage of his elemental weakness, etc.. “And Kat's context is he seems to have decided (whether due too exhaustoon or passivity) to stop fighting.” Did he have an actual choice to continue?

[@dropdead.1]

bro couldnt be more wrong , simply because the writers said so 🤣

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Proof???

[@sergio9180]

L

[@0ppoS1tlOn]

All this is the most cap video I have ever seen 😂

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Why???

[@SM1LE2006]

@@GLOCKTOBER it simply doesn’t make sense for the yc1 of the big mom pirates to be weaker than the tobi roppo, your either overrating the beast pirates or underrating the big mom pirates

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@SM1LE2006 9:52

[@Zkkzzkjzzj667]

Nice hating however. Katakuri could have been killed luffy but he didnt

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Ok nigga they was still equal

[@TheCJKsquad]

Plot armour

[@baonemogomotsi7138]

Ah I see, I've reached the brain-dead area of the OP fandom. The legendary power scalers 🤦‍♂

[@Chillersnowman]

There is nothing brain dead in his argument, calling soem thing brain dead is a completly stupid topic, what did he do wrong, He just got some minor stuff wrong, no need to harass others and call them out for disagreeing with their viewpoints.

[@baonemogomotsi7138]

@@Chillersnowman ''At this point, most if not all the Straw Hats can defeat him''- 0:10 to 0:14 ''Luffy went all to build more muscle''- 2:55 '' Post Udon Luffy < Zoan form Ulti, not saying he'll lose, he'll just one shot her. Even so, why didn't he use his other Gears?'' Bro thinks HE's the author. '' Ulti > Katakuri'' '' The Tobi Roppo are all relative & means that they're all stronger than Katakuri'' '' Nami, Ussop, and Chopper > Katakuri'' I stopped here because I'm tired of off-brand Logan Paul, a guy using lies & falsifications to rake views via controversy. Yeah, he's not a turd brain. He's a living turd.

[@Chillersnowman]

@@baonemogomotsi7138 Idc about the argument, there is still not a reason to call someone that because you have a different argument.

[@baonemogomotsi7138]

@@ChillersnowmanI have freedom to say what I want, so go bang your mum, wanker. It's my opinion & a social media platform. Flack me all you want, I'll report you too for the violation of being an insufferable inbreed fool.

[@noot4041]

@@Chillersnowmanwell no he called him brain dead do to the arguments that were just completely wrong

[@hammelbear749]

holy this is the first one piece powerscaling esc vid i watched and this is how yall come up with answers? i might go back to naruto scaling💀

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Cant sakura beat Madara or sum shit😭😭😭

[@Vihaan8888]

​@@GLOCKTOBERyour scaling of kata is worse than that 🤣🤣 that's like saying Sakura is equal to sO6 Naruto and rinnegan sasuke and this solos all the hokage and base madara and obito

[@kaellertrewin1581]

Katakuri stomps man introduced adv observation haki. Not even king has this or conquer haki 😂

[@dracosean854]

What is this video . Then people in the comments buying this BS. Do people believe that luffy is stronger than katakuri post whole cake island. The moment u said the tobi roppo and weaker straw hats could beat him that is how I know I cant take u seriously . Ill admit u did a good job fooling these other guys in the comments.

[@raphaelisacov333]

exactly

[@GLOCKTOBER]

I have not gotten a single comment that actually explains why Im wrong. Its just been baseless claims like these

[@dracosean854]

@@GLOCKTOBER Baseless claims 🤣.Luffy was literally running away most of the fight using brulee . Then Katakuri stabs himself and then katakuri was not even defeated by luffy .The man was lying on his back talking to brulee and was happy that luffy escaped. It was a false W for luffy and most one piece fans know this except you. Its honestly like Katakuri let him escape. Using Kaido to scale luffy is not even going to work the man was not even serious till luffy started using conquerors haki.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@dracosean854 Luffy ran away with Brulee once and Kat injured himself because Luffy got fcked over by outside interference. Both opponents had equal levels of armament and observation haki by the end and Kat went down first. It’s almost like you didn't read the fight

[@SM1LE2006]

@@GLOCKTOBER I’m pretty sure Katakuri is currently the only yonko commander COMFIRMED to have future sight (correct me if I am wrong), and you know how op future sight is, with insane haki and the way he uses his df which makes him top 3 strongest yonko commanders imo. You tryna tell ace is stronger than kata?

[@narayasuiryoku1397]

I can't wait for you to make a video on why Kaido loses to Lucci.

[@WesleyZ3]

By this guy’s logic crocodile is fodder because he lost to gearless Luffy. Kat just like Crocodile should have gotten stronger since the last time we saw him.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

COPE

[@WesleyZ3]

@@GLOCKTOBERHaki bloom is a thing. We literally see Luffy get stronger from losing multiple times in Wano.

[@Vihaan8888]

​@@GLOCKTOBERthe only copper here is you kata weaker than ulti is mental illness I am a kata downplsyer but saying he lose to ulti and hakiless fodders like ussop , nami chopper is brainrot

[@omarvaldez00]

Katakuri is the most skilled righthandmans in the story and he is definitely not the weakest.

[@thefishsandwichgd]

your right. this guy is very wrong. kat is def sronger than zoan ulti

[@RealRandomOnTheInternet]

@@thefishsandwichgdmaybe stronger than Ulti but best right hand man? Zoro claps Katakuri’s cheeks any day

[@thefishsandwichgd]

@@RealRandomOnTheInternet Now that think about it, he probably isnt as strong as Zoro, but hes definitely up there with the greats.

[@Vihaan8888]

​@@RealRandomOnTheInternethe said zoan ulti not zoro

[@RealRandomOnTheInternet]

@@Vihaan8888 Read the original comment.

[@Rapidd_]

How is katakuri weaker than someone like the 14th commander of wb

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Why does he have to be that strong

[@Vihaan8888]

​@@GLOCKTOBERso according to you ulti would solos whole cake luffy 😂

[@User_k6-w4i]

​@@GLOCKTOBERthe meme "stop the cap" is for you😂

[@robchamp8556]

Hey man, the truth is always the hardest to hear, but you are speaking fax 🙏

[@AlexanderAchusim]

Calls base Luffy his equal? You don’t think when Katakuri said that he could have been referring to their 12 hour fight where he witnesses his haki bloom. You don’t think he was referring to Luffy’s haki

[@jonathanolivaamaya5686]

idk right like they had a whole 12 hour fight and u think he’s only referring to him in his base form cmon that is reaching

[@rohitvijaykumar6804]

Bro katakuri is not at all weaker than tobi rappos , if he can match the level of gear 4 luffy and fight with him for more than 5 hours , tobi rappo are mere fodder infront of katakuri

[@a_fairfish2965]

Bro actually said that CHOPPER would BODY katakuri. Delusional

[@GLOCKTOBER]

And still no one has proved me wrong 😑

[@lokirize158]

​@@GLOCKTOBERtf is you on

​@@lokirize158he is on crack

​@@lokirize158even more so than captain crackhead

[@robchamp8556]

​@@GLOCKTOBERcuz Ur right

[@duncan3998]

Example: Strawhat Pirates 10. Usopp 9. Nami 8. Chopper 7. Brook 6. Robin 5. Franky 4. Jinbei 3. Sanji 2. Zoro 1. Luffy Blackbeard pirates 10. Doc Q 9. Vasco shot 8. San Juannwolf 7. Devon 6. Pizzaro 5. Lafitte 4. Van Augur 3. Burgess 2. Shiryu 1. Blackbeard Big Mom Pirates 10. Amande 9. Compote 8. Daifuku 7. Oven 6. Perospero 5. Snack 4. Cracker 3. Smoothie 2. Katakuri 1. Big Mom Beast Pirates 10. Black Maria 9. Hawkings 8. Ulti 7. Sasaki 6. X-Drake 5. Who's-who 4. Jack 3. Queen 2. King 1. Kaido Whitebeard Pirates 10. Fossa 9. Squard 8. Oars 7. Izou 6. Thatch 5. Ace 4. Vista 3. Jozu 2. Marco 1. Whitebeard

[@shasha023]

my guy you bad at scaling, you dont take into account some facts and straight out ignore them just for the sake of pushing the agenda of Katakuri being weak. Yes i do agree some people seem to think Katakuri is stronger than he actually is but then you cant just come in and lowball him so long, there is no way that the flying 6 are stronger and or comparable to Katakuri that is just pure B.S, Katakuri has shown feats that easily put him way above the flying 6 and even Jack and Queen, but for you to then come in as say he is weaker than Page One 😂😂🤣🤣, like seriously bro????? scaling of the commanders taking potrayal and feats into account goes like this: Zoro > King > Marco > Katakuri > Sanji > Queen > Jack > Jinbe > Smoothie* > Cracker

[@GLOCKTOBER]

So like… wheres the your evidence

[@shasha023]

@@GLOCKTOBER my evidence is the manga, unlike you who

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@shasha023 mans really stopped mid sentence cause he knew he was cap

[@shasha023]

@@GLOCKTOBER dont need to say to much when you know you have evidence as prove

[@greentsn5003]

Bruh, just because he lost to the protagonist of the story once, does not make him automatically weaker than every other characters luffy had to face after that fight. Yes he lost to luffy, a fighter with similar abilities to himself, but you gotta think about the specific match up that he could face and how his ability will do against that particular person. Thats how you could kinda figure out his true level of strength. Fighting someone with abilities similar to himself, could go either way to be honest. Many factors. Saying ulti and the tobi roppo are stronger than kat is just mad, fam. 😂

[@GLOCKTOBER]

11:23

​@@GLOCKTOBERno listen to this future sight Kat even has a chance at beating kaido

[@editimpact66]

Also Kata literally matched with Oven....yes the same Oven who got perception blitzed by WCI Sanji :))

[@SM1LE2006]

When did oven and kata even fight?

[@editimpact66]

@@SM1LE2006 cover story which is canon

[@michaeldorsey9231]

Yeah this is a hit to Kat’s credibility, but Oven wasn’t perception blitzed. His eyes and attention were on Pound the entire time and Sanji was out of Oven’s line of sight (his starting position was literally to the back of Oven’s head).

[@dakeouswoods]

@@editimpact66it’s crazy how you guys decide to not give context to push agendas.😭 They didn’t even fight. Caesar used Hallucination gas. And it made them do 1 punch literally that’s it. In what way did oven match with katakuri?

[@brunoherrera2574]

Luffy didn't beat Katakuri.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

😂😂😂

[@SparkyWeeBro]

I'm genuinely Asking.. WHAT STORY ARE YOU READING?

[@techwiz9216]

Exactly

[@isaacmybro9570]

He didn’t in two piece

[@akadenanderson3283]

🤦‍♂️I guess katakuri saying that he consider luffy as an equal didn't happen too

[@driplord6150]

With that logic queen abd king are admiral level

[@GLOCKTOBER]

What are u on???

[@driplord6150]

@@GLOCKTOBER copium like saying ulti is stronger than base luffy and wci snakeman and katakuri

[@Ehstynago]

@@driplord6150but how queen and king scale to above admirals or at that level how there is literally nothing on that please explain, u people just like to say things but never want to explain it why because u know u just can’t help but hate because someone telling u facts u don’t want to hear

[@vicentegeonix]

​@@Ehstynagoyou*

[@lazypandayt6873]

@@Ehstynagour just a dumbass that doesn’t like it when something doesn’t go your way so shut the fuck up

[@brunoherrera2574]

Your power scalling really sucks. To say base onigashima Luffy is stronger than WCI G4.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

How is he not then?

[@SparkyWeeBro]

He legit is.

[@kaistacks]

@@GLOCKTOBER base luffy using Ryou is stronger but not the one usinbg normal armament

[@Onyx-IL]

What did i just watch? am i dreaming?

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Like i said bro- prove me wrong

[@mickeyfn2015]

Luffy had his guard down while ulti caught him off-guard, he wasn't looking for a fight in the first place, he could have wanted to go to gear fourth simply for the growing abilities to break free from her grip, knowing that he probably wouldn't fight someone in the next 10 minutes

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Why aint he use gear 3rd

[@mickeyfn2015]

@@GLOCKTOBER Gear third makes his fist longer and blows up his body with air to fill up his bones as though it were a balloon, hence the name, "bone balloon" and ulti's dinosaur death grip would likely have stayed on either way, but gear fourth uses the elasticity of rubber and haki and it makes his muscles grow similar to gear 5 luffy's "muscle muscle" move used against kaido.

[@Vihaan8888]

​@@GLOCKTOBERbase luffy literally blitz here atleast don't cherry pic for you agenda

[@User_k6-w4i]

​@@GLOCKTOBERyou. WHY DIDN'T YOU USED YOU'RE BRAIN?

[@ghosttrainz4701]

Would katakrui being an awakening devil fruit use give him an advantage against kaido crew I don’t think you pointed that out in your video

[@PandaPower511]

Bro ur heavily sleeping on Katakuri… him, Jack, queen, and king would all put up good fights against each other.. okay maybe not Jack but he still had a billion bounty.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Feats???👀👀👀

[@PandaPower511]

@@GLOCKTOBER Kat never lost a battle prior to luffy(draw?), and undisputed second in command in big mom crew.. so strong they truly believed he wouldn’t lose.. 3 haki, future sight, special paramecia devil fruit.. awakened.. and he did not lose(draw?) to base form Luffy.. luffy was maxed out gear 4 SNAKE Man pushed to his absolute max.. so I think ur power scaling with the tobi robi guys r a bit off.. anyways all I’m saying is kat would put up a fight w/Jack/queen/king and isn’t some fodder like how ur making him sound..

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@PandaPower511 I literlly already covered all of this 6:47

[@PandaPower511]

I don’t disagree w ur logic but to say Kat would get bodied by all of tobi robo based on a Ulti head butt to luffy is flawed power scaling…. We seen plenty of times where Luffy will fight down to his competitions lvl and doesn’t go all out or genuinely try unless he is forced to…@@GLOCKTOBER

[@PandaPower511]

​@@GLOCKTOBER kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIGse6p9qcehqNE

[@cohenhu9459]

This... is bait right?

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Naw

[@cohenhu9459]

@@GLOCKTOBER Okay, I truly mean no offense, and I can respect that you put the effort in and made this video. But this take is braindead lol

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@cohenhu9459 like I said bru prove me wrong

[@cohenhu9459]

@@GLOCKTOBER bro, if someone comes up and says that rocks are tasty and 2+2=5. im not gonna try and tell them why they are wrong and goofy for thinking that. GL

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@cohenhu9459 just calling someone stupid without addressing their argument is the most braindead thing I’ve seen 🤔🤔

[@calisterfrancis3733]

Stop hating if u believe this I just have to call you dumb for real cause I can’t believe someone actually believes this, Kat clears any beast pirate but king

[@reignxxx3043]

I fully support ur statement brother. This guy in the video and the people in the comments are literally crazy. Tf....i know katakuri is weak in comparison to kaido...but damn. These people are literally claiming that katakuri can be beat by chopper,nami,robin...individually...in the comments. He also claims nami,chopper,robin can beat whole cake g4 luffy.....also individualy..tf.

[@hareshvishal7816]

Queen destroy him ​@@reignxxx3043

[@otepdotnet]

katakuri is way too superior when he fought Luffy, his Devil fruit is awakened, his haki is much superior , it's just Luffy is the main character

[@maxtenny]

this would be cool if perospero wasnt relative to jack

[@GLOCKTOBER]

No evidence 9:17

[@maxtenny]

@@GLOCKTOBER yea I watched the whole vid before I commented and the Pero scaling debunk was missing WAY too much context so imma address it all; 1.) “He did nothing except lose to Neko” this doesnt acknowledge the fact that pero had the durability and endurance to take an off guard attack from Base Neko and to keep fighting after getting beat up by Sulong Neko 2.) “Tbf Peros did have Neko on his face for a sec, but this was Base Neko who was weakened from his fight with Kaido” not only did Neko have time to rest and get bandaged up but Peros was also weakened himself. before the fight with neko started he was hit off guard by Carrot and Wanda before fighting them, got attacked by Sanji kicking Queen into him, and like i said before he was hit by Base Neko while off guard 3.) “In the anime Peros caught Neko off guard because of his de-transformation, he even say himself that he got lucky” the anime isn’t canon and the only evidence ppl cite for using it as such (at least for Wano) is an anime staff interview about the flashbacks in zou. also the whole perospero being lucky thing would just be referring to the moon being covered up in the context of the canon story so in conclusion a nerfed Pero against a nerfed Neko did about as well as a nerfed Jack did against a nerfed Inu, therefore Katakuri > Smoothie > Cracker > Jack >= Perospero makes a lot of sense if the BM Pirates hope to stand a chance against any other emperor’s crew

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@maxtenny 1. Didnt pts Luffy have the durability and endurance to tank a hit from Kizaru at Marineford. 2. If your trying to compare all of that to actually taking full on attacks from base Kaido you’re crazy. Also Carrot and Wanda are fodder 3. Oda entrustst the anime adaptation to the directors. He has stated “If his opinions and mine do not meet, Luffy instantly ceases to be Luffy and the world becomes entirely different.” he also talked about how the directors had an understanding of the world of OP. Oda’s editors also do scenario checking. (sbs volume 21) 4. Theres a reason why BM’s commanders barely ever leave Totto land without her. The only one that did got folded by a worst generation member. They fodder frfr

[@maxtenny]

@@GLOCKTOBER you’d have to be severely obtuse to think that Admiral Kizaru the troll against pirates 100x weaker than him is trying nearly as hard as Neko is against the dude responsible for PEDROS DEATH! very shocked seeing this argument from the dude that was using Usopp getting beat up by Ulti as a feat… saying Neko got beat up by Base Kaido means nothing considering we don’t even see him getting hit ONE TIME on screen. you can’t ever scale how damaged he was or the level of haki Kaido used against him. when we see him fighting later he’s bandaged up and doing just fine too. And wtf does your personal opinion of Carrot and Wanda have to do with the argument at hand? they’re stronger than Pero as a duo and were beating on him that’s all that matters entrusting an adaptation to an ENTIRELY different group of people doesn’t make something canon. by this logic you must think the live action adaptation is canon too… the definition of canon in a literature context is “the works of a particular author (Oda) or artist that are recognized as genuine.” in that very same SBS Oda said: “First of all, what I MUST tell you is that I am a manga artist so I don't make anime. What I can do is help out with the character designs for anime-original episodes. Nothing major. So basically, the One Piece world I've created in my manga is entrusted to others to be adapted in the anime.” so any plot differences can’t be called canon as Oda doesn’t work on the plot worst gen niggas aren’t inherently weak, in Onigashima alone 5/8 of them were stronger than Jack from the very start of the raid so losing to one doesn’t determine how strong somebody would be at a later point in the story

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@maxtenny So if Neko didnt get beat up by Kaido, then how was he injured???? And trying to argue that Carrot and Wanda are outputting equal damage as base Kaido is crazy. Sure the anime is a different adaptation but Oda has stated that he wants the anime and the manga to be as close as possible and, unlike in other series, it is never explicitly stated that the two adaptations are in separate dimensions or something. Otherwise there would be no reason for gis editors to check the anime and make sure it's accurate to the manga. Toei’s adaptation has been quite accurate so far as well.(besides pure filler) Lastly, it's hard not to call Urouge fodder since the last thing he did before fighting Snack was barely beat a Pacifista but my point still stands. The sweet commanders barely ever leave the crib without BM.

[@RsLeonardo1]

This is so dumb. He's not weak. The power creep just demands these other people be much stronger. If he comes back he will be drastically buffed. Anyone with conquerors defeated in the past who comes back into the story will be buffed w conquerors coating lmao

[@GLOCKTOBER]

COPE

[@User_k6-w4i]

​@@GLOCKTOBERYOU'RE SMART(OPPOSITE)

[@User_k6-w4i]

​@@GLOCKTOBERIt's true you're smart(OPPOSITE)

[@plushydrown1368]

Katakuri lowkey underrated he just needs to improve his overall AP with adv conquerors.

[@Jackiechun_]

Wtf is ap

[@scmuntexe7756]

@@Jackiechun_attack power or smthing idk

[@GLOCKTOBER]

??? Im not following

[@plushydrown1368]

@@GLOCKTOBER what I meant is that if he improved his atttack potency with infusion he could become the strongest yc1

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@plushydrown1368 what about speed, defense, and reaction time though. Sure he would hit like a tank but those stats still lack. Now if he were to progress to infusion like Luffy did he would be on Zoro and Yamatos level so yeah he would be the strongest first commander.

[@exaltedjeans7084]

How is kaido oneshotting boundman a detriment to katakuri when katakuri made quick work of boundman luffy as soon as he turned on his futuresight? None of the yc1 commanders would be able to low diff boundman luffy like that if anything they would get their shit rocked. Thats one of the most unfair and biased things ive ever heard. Even base luffy was able to dodge kaido later on when he was using futuresight that he learned from fighting who? You guessed it. Katakuri.

[@nicholasaugello2534]

I agree with everything he said after seeing it all the way through. Cuz Ulti is just ridiculous. She does alot more impressive things than Jack does actually. I wouldn't upscale any of the Tobi roppo to her accept maybe Who's who but idk. Ulti was just in outlier of her group tbh cuz she has page 1 under thumb and i feel like she'd do that to any of the other Tobi roppo minus potentially who's who but he got folded so badly by Jimbei tho i don't even care about him.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

If Ulit was an outlier she would be an all star, but shes not

[@aliasdude3288]

What about X Drake?

[@mrsunshine8314]

First of all in the headbud luffy was only really blocking And by that logic it means the the sea king of the first chapter is stronger than kid

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Yeah Luffy was blocking even though he was pushing back against her and wtf is the second statement

[@fernandofernandez8723]

@@GLOCKTOBER he's saying just because the sea king took of shanks' arm, and kid got bodied by shanks, doesn't mean that the sea king is stronger than kid. It's kind of the same logic you're applying in this video.

[@monke9056]

Ye wtf is the second statement

[@mrsunshine8314]

@@GLOCKTOBER simple the sea king ripped of shanks his arm and kid and killer got destroyed not that i really think the sea king is stronger But my point is power creep is a thing and ulti could not beat katakuri

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@mrsunshine8314 seaking is obviously an outlier. Shanks literally let that happen.

[@duncan3998]

Nah...its still hard for me to believe Ulti can beat Katakuri. Not a fanboy , i assure you.

[@CRY10]

Bro one piece power system is broken. Luffy defeated Kat bcoz he is the main character and don’t forget if Kat was even a bit stronger than Luffy there would have been no Wano arc It was just a plot armour that Luffy had at that time and if Oda planned to show Kat next time he will be stronger maybe more stronger then king because that's how story works.

[@noot4041]

It’s not that the power system is broken though it does have some flaws but it’s just that luffys plot armor gives him second chances allowing him to improve and at the time luffy couldn’t handle katakuri if he couldn’t run he would have died but brûlée and her devil fruit saved him

[@hareshvishal7816]

I really love that how people in the comment section simply criticizing him instead of trying to prove him wrong...... Katakuri is fodder

[@loganwilliams7009]

The Beast Pirates can't invade WCI argument is trash. We literally see Luffy's conqueror's at FISHMAN ISLAND knock out 10,000 people. Kaido's CoC shold be far stronger than FISHMAN ISLAND Luffy, so what's stopping him frm just knocking eveyrone out with haki????

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Whats stopping Kat and Big Mom from knocking his crew out.

[@loganwilliams7009]

@@GLOCKTOBER Kaido would slam Big Fraud and Katakuri's durability

[@joetem9909]

Okay I will admit that he's not beating zoro or king But any lower then that Im saying cap Let me rebunk katakuri First off You took a lot out of context when you said base luffy in wci is superior to kat and at the beginning of the fight where both were at their healthy states luffy was constantly getting blitzed and slammed by un awked kat so it should be damn obvious that even un awked kat is superior to base luffy in wci even when luffy awakens his adv obv and the part where you said "oh luffy was beating kat in base when fighting awked kat though" that was because bro LITERALLY STABBED HIMSELF with his own trident heavily weakening himself and that's why he declared base luffy as his "equal" and if he didn't stab himself as shown before he would've EASILY blitzed base luffy and won the fight and also he said that out of respect to luffy. Now onto the second thing Second off "Kaido one shot gear 4" while yes that IS TRUE and I read your comment SHaDX on how it would not have mattered if luffy used snakeman instead but.. Gear 4 Snakeman is also above Gear 4 bounceman due to a massive speed advantage meaning gear 4 snakeman should be able to blitz gear 4 bounceman meaning g4 bm

[@GLOCKTOBER]

The only reason Kat stabbed himself is because he stabbed Luffy in the exact same way which was due to Flampes arrow hitting Luffy earlier. That's the entire reason why he yelled at her, and if she wasnt there to catch Luffy off guard the fight would have gone the same way without both combatants being stabbed. It's not just the fact that Kat respects Luffy but he literally states before trying to stab him that Luffys potential exceeds his own and if he keeps going he will be a true threat. On top of that Luffy fought Kat in base for 9 hours straight, showing that he isn't just completely losing to Kat so easily. The difference between G4 BM and Snakeman isn't that vast. If you’re thinking about how Luffy got blitzed by Katakrui in Bounceman, I already went over in the video how Luffys base by the end of Whole Cake is already above that Bounceman then he stacks Snakeman on top. So no Snakeman isn't >>>>>>>>> above Boundman and it's shown when he swaps forms against Kaido that they are relatively similar. Also, NO, Snakeman vs Kaido on the roof is not the same as Snakeman vs Katakuri, I hope I don't need to explain that. Also I already went over why Katakuri didnt “weaken himself” as he was just wounding himself the same as Luffy to keep the fight fair. Luffy post Udon is moving faster than any of his previous G4 forms before and I already went over why the speed gap between Snakeman and Boundman isn't “LEAGUES APART”. Finally, yes base Luffy was trying to get to the roof, but it's your complete headcanon that he wasn't trying against Ulti and Page One. Sure after he clashed with Ulti he said he underestimated her but then he proceeds to blitz both of them and Page One with a G3 punch. This same punch is stronger than anything Katakuri got hit by in Whole Cake. I'm not saying that Luffy needed to go all out with Gear 4 to beat her, as he was in a rush to get to the roof, but the fact that he couldn't just use G2 or G3 to win quickly means that they are somewhat of an obstacle for him in his base, which is stronger than Katakuri. Also I don't know why you’re talking about advanced conquerors, that's a completely different power that Luffy learned on the roof. Please actually read the story before arguing with someone because it's extremely corny for the other person to actually explain the story while also arguing.

[@joetem9909]

@@GLOCKTOBER sorry I mean ryuo not advanced conq

[@joetem9909]

@@GLOCKTOBER Anyways First off I just rewatched the scene where kat stabs himself and nowhere did he say luffy's potential surpassed his. If you do not know the basics of blood loss causing your body to become weaker then I should not continue. As shown earlier in the fight in no way did luffy gain the upper hand and only when he unlocked adv obv is where it starts to get a little harder for kat as he was still blitzing and slamming luffy in the fight like I said before clearly having no upper hand until of course where flampes arrow comes in to weaken luffy and take out one of his legs to immobilize him so after a bit of this unfair treatment kat notices it after a bit and gets mad at flampes and then stabs himself with his trident and of course blood loss = get weaker over time and even when weakened like i said before kept up with wci g4 sm and if we are speculating at the rate the fight was going if neither luffy nore kat got weakened kat most likely would've won due to him winning more of the fights then luffy and even if you bring in the fact that g4 sm could've gave luffy the advantage like I said before that WEAKENED KAT was able to keep up with g4 sm in wci meaning healthy kat should be equal if not relatively above wci g4 sm and before you say that "Oh luffy was weakened too" well yes that IS TRUE but your forgetting that the arrow's effects were only temporary and the injury was only a needle sized hole compared to katakuris trident wound with blood spilling everywhere and the effect eventually wore off making luffy not weakened meaning technically he was in a better state then kat was. Second off As we see in the fight that g4 sm is much faster then g4 bm to the point where he could go so fast he could change the future to bypass kat's future sight and now ofc if you say "Well actually kat said that it was due to luffy's arms constantly changing direction" well to the fact that g4 bm has the same thing but slower then g4 sm and kat still dodged that with his future sight meaning it truly was the speed factor in g4 sm that made him bypass kat's future sight and bypassing future sight is no small feat as the only other one who could bypass future sight is shanks and he's a whole other breed (might be forgetting some people) and while yes of course we don't know how fast you got to go to bypass future sight but i assume it has to be faster then the persons reaction speed. Third off G4 sm wci like i said before had the speed to change the future to bypass kat's future sight and base luffy post udon was much slower then wci g4 sm due to the fact that kaido could still dodge luffys attacks even when in base and yes ik obviously kaido's future sight>>>>>>>>kat's luffy still did not bypass kaido's future sight and there's no other impressive speed feats that get him past g4 sm in wci Fourth off Base luffy post wci is no where near as strong or fast as g4 sm in wci as yes if we do follow your "the straw hats get stronger with every island" it isn't so big to the point where luffy surpasses entire gears as there is no feats or even statements that say luffy post wci could beat wci g4 sm as that is just speculation Finally It was clear that luffy was not trying against ulti or page one as base luffy later on proceeds to somewhat keep up with kaido even though still getting slammed by kaido he still did okay against kaido in his base and OBVIOUSLY base kaido>>>>>>>>>>ulti & page one full power and luffy was trying his absolute best when fighting kaido meaning luffy trying would slam page one and ulti combined

[@teaspoonty3]

Bruh. Franky and Robin are not beating Kat 😂 like not even close

[@duncan3998]

Videos suggestions; *Ranking each pirate crew strength from weakest to strongest*

[@nicholasaugello2534]

Reading the comments and im seeing people don't like one of their favorite antagonists getting powercreeped like this 🤣

[@dropdead.1]

because hes wrong 🤣

[@Holeinshoo]

Satirically hilarious video 🎉

[@СеверинМартинюк]

YC1 level is everyone who is at the same power as one of 1st yonko commanders which includes everyone from Katakuri to Mihawk(mihawk is Buggys YC1)

[@jamkade6525]

I feel like what's overrated Is Kat's fruit specifically. A lot of games that have the mochi fruit make it absolutely broken.

[@BeyondEllisBeck]

Katakuri is by far the STRONGEST commander in the series. There isn't a single one that could defeat him in a pure 1v1 scenario. He's the closest commander to a Yonko out of all the others and that's a Fact. Thank God that this video is only your opinion because this is so far from the truth and it spreads misinformation to the community.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Proof???

[@BeyondEllisBeck]

@@GLOCKTOBER The proof is in his fight with Luffy. He explains why he got hit by Luffy in the first place and he also explains why he was superior to Luffy beforehand. Katakuri admitting that he no longer saw Luffy as someone inferior to him had NOTHING to do with strength, it was the way he viewed Luffy as a man with the ability to push beyond his limits and his lack of complaining about being at a disadvantage from interference. Luffy did grow in between the fight but it was not on the level of Katakuri no matter how much people want to ignore that fact. Katakuri purposely injured himself to fight Luffy with honor. What ignorant individuals don't realize is that Katakuri injured himself more than what he did to Luffy. He handicapped himself hard in that fight which lead to him actually making himself vastly weaker. A full strength Katakuri is scraping with Wano Luffy without question. Luffy didn't inflict the first BIG hit on Katakuri, Katakuri himself did. Katakuri was far physically stronger than Luffy at that time so he did the most damage to himself. Oda purposely crippled Katakuri because he knew that Luffy wouldn't have won that fight under normal conditions. So many BIGGER more TRUE channels actually know that Katakuri is the truth and one of the strongest characters in the entire series. You're a small fry who spreads misinformation to the one piece community.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@BeyondEllisBeck 1- even if base Luffy wasn’t equal to Kat at that point, snake man still AT LEAST tied even with him. 2- Katakuri injured himself with a similar attack that Luffy took for no reason. If Luffy didn’t get hit by Flampe he would have dodged the mochi thrust attack. He didn’t handicap himself below Luffy nor did he injure himself for Oda to neef him 3- even then you claim that “the attack Katakuri hit himself with was stronger” which has no evidence. If anything the attack that Luffy took was stronger due to it being named. 4- Katakuri went down in 13 hit compared to Luffy taking over 100 5- Laugh at this small fry all you want, but i'm actually out here taking time to make videos on my own views, instead of just getting them from “the big guys”. Go actually form your own opinion and think for yourself.

[@BeyondEllisBeck]

@@GLOCKTOBER My opinion is that Katakuri is by far the strongest commander besides Ben Beckman. Those channels are just extra icing on the cake. Your 2 and 3 are laughable btw. I've already said for 2 that yes, Katakuri injured himself to even the playing field. Your 3 is braindead because Luffy dodged it and got only a small nip while Katakuri hit himself dead on with the attack. He took a far larger chunk out of himself than he did to Luffy. That's a fact. So what else do you want to be wrong about? This channel just seems like a L no matter how you look at it. Don't think I'm coming at you as a person directly, just your channel and your spread of misinformation.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@BeyondEllisBeck Bro doesn't even acknowledge the fact that Snakeman and Katakuri tied and then he just back peddles to saying that “🤓in my opinion🤓” type shit, when earlier he was dickriding the “BIGGER more TRUE channels” Then you talk about how Katakuri took the larger wound when you STILL HAVE NO EVIDENCE 😱😱😱 Finally, you can call my channel and L and D ride others all you want but please take it to someone elses comment section ;)

[@davidsanchezlll7463]

hold up snake man is stronger then bounce man 💀

[@seandunning5614]

So you are saying that chopper, Robin, Jimbei, Franky and sanji can destroy whole cake gear 4 luffy?

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Yes😁

[@Vihaan8888]

​@@GLOCKTOBERyou - 🤡🐀🐁🤓🧟‍♂️🍆☕

[@cathedral1375]

Nope not anywhere near true. He is waxing the straw hats save for luffy and maybe zoro and sanji obviously

[@GLOCKTOBER]

feats???

[@pogo8050]

The absolute slander

[@RakaTheCaka]

See bro i know that luffy from wano is way stronger than katakuri but what if katakuri got desperate to get strong after luffy defeated him in whole cake arc what if he trained see i am using if cuz i dont know if hes training or just munching into doughnuts but i am sure that if katakuri is not stronger than tobi roppo but he can be equal to them now u dont mention in the video that what if he trained id u did please tell me when. Thats i have to say

[@GLOCKTOBER]

COPE

[@2forLulu]

love the vids but like bruh robins not doing anything to kat

[@IuL108]

I don't understand. If Robin or any other non Haki user is stronger than Katakuri, how can they even hit him if they don't have Haki?

[@GLOCKTOBER]

I completely forgot about that but if they did have haki then they body him The tobi roppo all have Haki to

[@invisiman1250]

​@@GLOCKTOBERkatakiri isn't a logia you said it in your video

[@juugknightforlife3263]

This is slander bro

[@youngfish1370]

Also for this whole thing remember X Drake matched post udon Luffy. We talking the same Ulti who’s relative to X Drake? Who Jack says even near death the both of them can’t beat the scabbards. After getting dogwalked by Kaido Izo kills a Cp0 member and injured another one, in a 2v1. X Drake with the help of Apoo and giants got cooked in a 2v4 against Cp0. X Drake even healed snuck up on the Cp0 agent and got blitzed by him. Izo>Ulti with her being relative to X Drake. Nekomamushi got bullied by Perospero before Sulong. The same Nemomamushi who’s above Izo. Which means Perospero> the flying 6. Also has relative portrayal to Jack. Cracker is stronger than Perospero. Which would put Cracker over Jack. Smoothie is stronger than Cracker. Ap wise G4 Luffy in WCI made Big Mom use armament to block his attack. Let me repeat that Big Mom thought it was necessary to use armament against G4 WCI Luffy. Unless you think the flying 6 durability and even queen durability>big mom. Then Katakuri> queen and the flying 6 Ap wise. Which also means Katakuri can damage the top commanders of the beast pirates. You know how Persopero is stronger than X Drake. Well that same X Drake is going bar for bar with a post udon g4 Luffy attack wise. So with all that being said King> Katakuri> Queen= Smoothie>Cracker> Jack=Perospero> Cat Viper> XDrake and Ulti On the Katakuri is weaker than WCI Luffy thing. He says he no longer assumes he’s inferior≠Luffy is on his level. That’s a respect thing. The fact that Katakuri saw Luffy as beneath him so he’s not going to try and end him with 1 strong attack defeats the purpose of that. To add on to that I can guarantee Oda wasn’t thinking yeah after 13 hits Katakuri goes down. When he went down it was on his own accord. For Ulti holding Luffy. Yeah using gear 2 he’ll still be in the same place just stronger. Gear 3 same thing. In gear 4 he can effortlessly get out and then if he needs to end the fight quickly, he can. It’s common sense Funny vid tho

[@GLOCKTOBER]

CP0 over tobi roppo or else Lucci would’ve died to Luffy intantly. No Neko did not get “bullied” by Peros before the Sulong transformation. In the manga we never see this fight but in the anime it is clearly shown that Nekos transformation ran out due to the moon being covered and Peros used that as an opening to stab Neko. In fact Peros says in both the anime and the manga that he got extremely lucky. There is no “relative portraayl to Jack” because both of them are just the two characters that hoed the Minks the most. It has nothing to do with power. So the whole “>Perospero” thing is irrelevant and you bring up BM using armament haki as if she didnt need advanced conquerors to one shot Page One. Also Queen is confident enough to attack BM whereas the entire Charlotte family together is confirmed to get destroyed by Big Mom with no question. These are all characters that can read eachothers power levels btw. The fact is that Luffys G4 against Kat could barely touch this nigga while he was in a bad metal state whereas base Luffy preforms far better against a stronger Katakuri. The first G4 that fought Kat had a tough fight against Caracker but then he fights Katakuri, the stronger commander, in base. You also say Katakuri let Luffy live as if Luffy in that moment wasnt a threat to his entire family and everyone outside of the mirror world. Both Luffy and Katakuri get back up from heavy hits multiple times. The difference between them at the end was that Luffy could keep going whereas Kat has trash durability. And finally it makes no sense for Luffy to waste energy in G4 when he can just kick the shit out of Ulti in G2 or break out with G3.

[@MoebiusChungus]

While I will say this is an excellently done video with a solid argument, I still don’t agree necessarily . Main reason is purely because we know Kat isn’t dead and Oda is always bring characters back up. Someone as popular as Kat will be re-introduced. Kat has conquers and we know the only way to improve in that Haki is to fight others with conquers and levels of Haki. This kind of ranking always creates holes cause guys like Rob Lucci can come into the story and be considered Yonko level due to his feats against a not serious Luffy. I think we need to remember that every Ancient Zoan we saw was able to punch up of their durability and physical strength but once someone with strong powers used them, they got bodied. Kaido wasn’t just strong cause his strength but because he had complete mastery over all Haki’s and built crazy experience over his long life. Luffy up to that point was overestimating himself after landing blows on his dragon form. Luffy then got blitz cause he couldn’t hurt him and was caught off guard. Luffy was only an Udon prison for 2 weeks. The boost in power was from learning advance armament not somehow increasing his individual strength. Luffy goal was to just be able to find a way to hurt Kaido, which he couldn’t do before. His Haki and overall stats

[@raphaelisacov333]

facts

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Bro i cant even tell what ur trying to argue

[@youngmelo4963]

@@GLOCKTOBER they trying to use feats that don’t exist my friends are saying king beats kat extreme diff all I need to say

[@MoebiusChungus]

@@GLOCKTOBER Sorry for the long argument, it got a little incoherent here and there lol. I’ll try restating. Anyway basically just saying while I liked the video, I just don’t agree with the estimation that Kat is the weakest commander. Reasons why is because I don’t feel like Luffy had changed that drastically from the time he beat Kat to Udon prison for people to assume Kat was way weaker. Luffy’s power up came from his acquisition of advanced armament not any physical boost, stats wise. I also argued that Ancient Zoan’s should be treated differently then just regular power scaling because thanks to their DF they can “Punch Up” their power tier thanks to their enhanced durability and strength that is more powerful then a regular Zoan. I made the comparison of how we can’t just say Ulti is stronger then Kat cause she caught off guard a unserious Luffy cause then we have to powerscale a guy like Rob Lucci to that of a Yonko for doing basically that and also the Scabbards as stronger then Kat for catching Kaido slipping. Last point is that simply we can’t just say Kat is that much weaker cause he is still alive and eventually will be reintroduced, since he’s one of the most popular characters introduced. I feel like whenever a character comes back, they usually are stronger and Kat had gone through so much fighting Luffy that saying he’s that much weaker, then every other commanders while no other commander except him( Zoro too) has show usage of Conquers, has show usage of his level of observation Haki, or has show the ability to awakening or mastery over a Devil Fruit, can’t be understated. I’m not a Katakuri fan boy or anything and actually like King, but I just don’t see how people have Kat weaker then any of the first commanders other then maybe Benn Beckmann.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@MoebiusChungus I appreciate the reply, but at the same time its kinda wrong. In Udon Prison Luffy trains with seastone on his body which disables his rubber powers and allowed him to build muscles. He even states that that's the reason why he was training so hard. He not only gets more muscle, but also gets far faster than he was in Kuri, because when he fought Kaido for the second time he actually dodged the thunder bagua instead of the first time when he got completely blitzed. You also talked about ancient zoan durability and strength. This fact doesn’t really matter since 1. It's a part of the tobi roppos movesets so why would I discount it, and 2. Robin, Jinbe, Franky, Chopper and others can take hits from the tobi roppo. I also wasn’t saying that Ulti is stronger than Luffy because she caught him off guard, I was saying that she made Luffy jump to his final form because he couldn’t defeat her in base.(btw the scabbards are stronger than Kat, and I don't get your Lucci point) Now while i agree with the reintroduction thing, I am not the type to operate on “what if’s” because you can apply them to many other characters in the series. Lastly, having future sight, conquerors and an awakened devil fruit does not mean anything. I already went over why having special powers means nothing when fighting characters far stronger than you.

[@عبودقاعود-غ1ث]

Bro katk7ri lost to plot armour

[@BDDterror]

Because u a copeland citizen he the strongest commander we seen fight

[@seandunning5614]

you can’t base your whole argument on stupid powerscaling stuff like surviving hits. Believe it or not one of the main protagonists is not going to die from a head but from a side character. And luffy originally getting one shot by kaido in gear 4 does not mean that his base form post udon is stronger than whole cake gear 4 luffy. It’s a story telling device just meant to show how strong kaido is. You shouldn’t take every detail so literally. I’m pretty sure oda would disagree with you in thinking that big moms strongest commander is just above fodder level in kaido crew.

[@weeedjoshh7596]

Who tf let ya cook ? Katakuri woild stomp the sheet out every Yonko commander prob besides Ben beckmen , king was the most disappointing Yc and Katakuri would fold bro like an omelet egg 🥚

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Proof???🤔🤔

[@unnamedshadow1866]

I do believe the reason why Katakuri wasn't stronger was because of the same structure of his Pirate Crew. The Beast Pirates followed only the Strongest. While the Big Mom Pirates were actually a family. And surprisingly, all of the children love their mother. So Katakuri had very few reasons to become stronger as there was no real power struggle within the Big Mom Pirates. No infighting to get a spot as a Calamity like Kaido wanted.

[@odapoggers]

The first thing to considerate in any of this is the insane power scale that the characters have on each arch, in my opinion saying that kata loses to ulti is the same that saying shanks couldnt beat that sea beast, or ignoring the existence of crocodile, and marineford in general (literaly no one had haki) I completely agree that comparing both of them in this scale kata is pretty much weaker than everyone in wano, but if he was there I realy dont think this would be the case. Remember that perospero is in wano too, and peros is not even in the podium of the strongest big mom sons, but could handle marco and thake the shit out of the minks Ikd if this will change ur mind or something, but this is my opinion, just the fact that crocodile spent months in jail doing nothing and got an insane scaling leaves me thinking (Sorry for my english, Im learning)

[@nikohuncho]

What makes you think that anything beyond gear 2 Luffy is like supersayian formula. Gear 3 has one at a time attack usage. It’s like more power less speed than gear 2. Gear 4 is a combo between gaining acceleration and gear 3 power with addition of haki. Snake man is a haki gear 2 Luffy literally made to outperform katakuri foresight due to his increased length. The only 2 forms that give Luffy actual upgrades are gear 2 and gear 5 which is like all gears + paramecia awakening. Kaido isn’t going to feel anything Luffy except gear 3 powered with haki punches. That’s why snakeman doesn’t work on him. Luffy doesn’t have forms like goku does it doesn’t work like that. Gears are meant to be unique techniques Luffy created with his understanding of his own devil fruit. Like when Luffy goes from base to gear 4 he isn’t getting stronger in that form he’s using his resources differently that’s it. The only things that really matter in op powerscaling is devil fruit awakening, haki and durability. It doesn’t matter if Luffy said some dinosaur lady grip is strong when katakuri has literally all hakis and awakened fruit. She’s not stronger than him in any way possible. Your logic would work in dbz not op.

[@McBreadbro]

First commanders who might or might not have conquerors haki: 1. Benn Beckman - High probability having conqueror's haki 2. King - No conquerors haki was shown 3. Katakuri - Has conquerors haki that matches Luffy's 4. Marco - No conquerors haki was shown 5. Zoro - Has conquerors haki 6. Mihawk - Possibly has conquerors haki considering he was rival to Shanks 7. Burgess - No conquerors haki was shown, possibly not having one since he got stomped by Sabo who was just learning to use mera mera no mi. Having conqueror's haki is an indicator of power in the world of One Piece, it's only owned by powerful characters and only 1 in a million can have it. So this easily shows Katakuri wasn't the weakest commander OBVIOUSLY, and isn't the strongest either since we haven't seen Benn Beckman's power, a man who scared Admiral Kizaru

[@jonathanolivaamaya5686]

luffy went to gear 4th agains ulti because he wanted to deal with her as quickly as possible not because gear 2nd 3rd or even his base form wasn’t enough saying gear 4th was necessary is a reach.

[@duncan3998]

Why do i begrudgingly agree to this?

[@totallynotdio1311]

2:31 he calls luffy overall his equal, like "i respect you, you are a real one for real". he did not say ,,you in gear 1 have the same stats as me". stop saying such bonehead things. its obvious luffy had to use snakeman to BARELY defeat him! also obviously ulti vs katakuri is no debate. luffy was underestimating ulti until she grabbed him. kata is at least on jacks level.

[@necroplastful]

I think he is by far the strongest. His Observation Haki is unparalelled in the manga (Only Shanks has a much stronger one). Situationally King might be stronger, same goes for Marco maybe... And even then. Yall dont realise how strong Katakuri is. His DF provides an insane potential in use.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

“His Observation Haki is unparalelled in the manga (Only Shanks has a much stronger one).” Even before their fights end Luffy’s observation Haki was growing to be on par with Kat’s, and by Kat’s own acknowledgment. By the end of the fight base Luffy was proficient enough with it to dodge several of Kat’s Peerless Donuts. Then despite having future sight comparable to Kat, and in spite of being faster and stronger than he was at Whole Cake, Onigashima Luffy was speedblitzed by Kaido using future sight.

[@rambofan6138]

so u think that hes above beckman, mihawk and zoro?

[@OLIVIERMATESO123]

The katakuri disrespect is really

[@GLOCKTOBER]

I dont hate him, he is the best-written commander. (besides Zoro) I'm just trying to not be biased because there is so much evidence to say that he is fodder

[@elijahwhite324]

Katakuri is stronger than robin and all the tobi roppos and look if an admiral gos if shanks you mills away katakuri is stronger than green bull

[@Supermateo97]

Very well put together video! I think this situation is similar to Shanks vs Mihawk. Where how much people like a character an skew their rational thinking. Kata is in my top 5 favorite OP characters, but I agreed with all the points you put out in the vid. I knew something was off when base Luffy was fighting “evenly” with him. So imo: The monster trio Vs. Kata = Easy Jimbei = Med Diff but still win Franky/Robin/Chopper = HIGH Diff

[@KizaruGoat]

can you make a video on how commanders stack up to admirals

[@GLOCKTOBER]

I already wrote one but I got others that I wanna do first.

[@mohammed44_]

I see the downplay for big mom pirates. But we knew that both jack and perospero were relative since they fought similar foes. Therefore: Kat>pero=jack>>>ulti and others. Also, the powercliff that oda makes is kinda normal, look at doffy holding juzo as nothing in marineford, even if juzo>doffy or look at crocodile who lost to pre gear luffy clashing with big guys in marineford and so on. The powercliff is what oda does to keep viewers exited.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

why does "fighting" similar foes make them relative

[@mohammed44_]

@@GLOCKTOBER Franky, who beat chapapa guy (800), was no diffed by lucci (4000). We know if pero was way weaker than jack, that means the cat viper would've no diffed him in the same way. but we all know that did not happen. WAKE UP TO REALITY.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@mohammed44_ in the manga we never see that fight happen. The anime shows Neko detransforming and Peros using that to his advantage, peros basically did nothing.

[@michaeldorsey9231]

“But we knew that both jack and perospero were relative since they fought similar foes.” Their battles ENDED with similar foes, but everything leading up to that was different. Perospero was struggling to fight two Sulong Minks (Carrot and Wanda), and only won after the moon was blocked and they came out of Sulong. Jack alongside an army of Gifters had to fight far more Sulong users, and not only was he taking more on but he was actually winning against them (in one instance he’s knocking aside 6 Sulong Minks with his trunk). By the very end he was almost killed in a 2v1 by Sulong Neko and Inu. Basically going into their final battles, Pero was significantly less battle damaged and struggled against fewer opponents, whereas Jack was far more worse for wear not only for fighting more opponents but almost being killed.

[@mattc4266]

Dude stop you don’t understand narrative.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

awwww shit I dont understand my own enterpritation of the story. maaaan😡😡😡

​@@GLOCKTOBERyeah that's your interpret you saying that everyone in wano slams katakuri and not saying that it's just your opinion. You really don't understand the narrative Kat only lost due to plot convenience and he chose to sit down.

[@extasy_x]

Heres my argument... Luffy has hella plot armour...example, his fight with Crocodile, who we can safely assume already could use haki..but he got bodied by Luffy...so..like Stan Lee said..the person who wind the fight is the person the writer wantsto win the fight...

[@juiceman320]

🧢

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Still haven’t been proven wrong 5 months on

[@unnamedshadow1866]

Another reason i believe War with Big Mom is not worth it is that while the Calamities and Tobi Roppo are stronger than Katakuri. The difference in power changes drastically lower down the line with the Headliners and Gifters being really weak. Also the Beast Pirates are a Pirate Crew ruled by Fear. Big Mom herself excels when surrounded by people that fear her. Add her numbers of her army and the fact the fodder Beast Pirates will have their Lifespan stolen, meaning she can even pop up Homies to add to her numbers. Yeah its why nobody challenged Big Mom. Its such a pain in the ass. Plus her territory is all joint together. So its not scattered islands all over the New World. You would have to go Island by Island to finally reach Whole Cake Island. The Straw Hats were successful because they infiltrated it. But an invasion is almost impossible.

[@jeffyboi8192]

i didn't need a video to tell me this it was obvious and people need to stop overestimating him. chopper solos. my only problem with this video is that ot wasn't the same gear 4 that got one shot by kaido it was bounce man which is more durable than snakeman as snakeman has luffy's normal durability.

[@mraih4joker150]

Topi roppo aren’t equal

[@GLOCKTOBER]

why not???

[@Chutki.mera.haiiiii]

​@@GLOCKTOBERBecause all of them are different people and all of them have different powers. It's so simple. If you can't understand this then you should stop being a stupid youtuber

[@SM1LE2006]

@@GLOCKTOBER because then the big mom pirates would be ata big disadvantage, you tryna tell me the 2nd strongest in the big mom pirates is weaker than the tobi roppo, the big mom pirates would be an easy target at that point and they wouldn’t even be a yonko crew

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@SM1LE2006 9:52

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@SM1LE2006 9:52

[@eavyeavy2864]

Halfway video you dont even tell which commander you compare him too

[@katenkyokotsu4417]

Luffy versus Ulti is still within his training montage. Ryou wasn’t even used on Ulti.

[@Dbay-cl7sv]

So your telling me if Katakuri has a lower rank in the big mom commanders he would be more stronger? Just asking

[@HiTechHead]

You flat out wrong. I dont have to explain because its blatant. Katakuri is far from the weakest commander in one piece. In fact, he is widely regarded as one of the strongest. His incredible power and skill have been showcased time and time again. Not only does he possess a formidable Devil Fruit ability, but his Haki is also incredibly advanced. Katakuri's observation Haki is so powerful that he can see into the future, giving him a significant advantage in battles. Additionally, his armament Haki allows him to create strong defensive barriers and deliver devastating attacks. It is clear that Katakuri is a force to be reckoned with, and certainly not the weakest commander in the series.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

Thats cool an all but… still loses to Ulti and them.

[@toilettofu05]

Future SIght is nothing against faster characters + all of that is useless cuz' Katakuri has no durability. Just look at how many punches he received against Luffy, a weakened and tired base Luffy literally made him bleed.

[@reignxxx3043]

Brother i find it incomprehensible how katakuri is being trashed here in this video and the comments. He is certainly weak in comparison to kaido. But damn they are claiming katakuri can be beat by chopper, ulti, nami, robin....tf.

[@GLOCKTOBER]

@@reignxxx3043 why not???

[@reignxxx3043]

@@GLOCKTOBER The fact that u think chopper can beat a yonko 1st commander just shows how warped ur brain is, damn. Just read the manga 5 times and go through wiki then maybe u will see wtf is wrong with u. A battle is never just about who hits who, its about a myriad of things, especially in one piece. Expenditure of energy, stamina, power,will,haki also comes from attacking someone/movement/intent/using future sight which is a higher grade than normal observation haki, especially considering haki is limited....luffy also faced such difficulties and he won i am not denying that but that victory doesnot mean katakuri has suddenly turned into a fodder. I can write a literal 1000-2000 words worth of essay about battle,haki and katakuri but i am not gonna say more than this considering i am pretty sure someone who can say chopper,nami,robin beats katakuri is not gonna accept any of this or more. I am even suspecting u are doing all of this to get a positive reactions from the algorithms, but no matter the case goodbye