Why Kenyans Are Taking Ruto's Government to Court

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[@PattBube-eu6lb]

Every Kenyan should be watching this show, as Kenyans we have alot to learn

[@josephinekumba4667]

I'm very happy with mediation nd arbitration because it preserves relationships. Keep it up

[@johnmlangi6890]

Mr Fanya Mambo. You've presented a very good presentation at the Studio and I'm convinced majority of Kenyans will definitely support your presentation & walk along with you all the way to the Courts to sue UDA Govt, under William Rutto

[@AlvynRoblox]

These are the minds we need in our political space

[@ruthameka]

This guy said govt should take only 20%. You guys don't seem to be listening to him. Kenya does not provide its citizens with services that are commensurate to the taxes they collect. You don't have to put up with a govt that taxes you to death.

[@WWEST464]

On point!!!!

[@wayando]

And the little services we receive, we have to beg for them ... And it is given to us like its a favor.

[@fredasanyo9379]

In fact 20% is too much. They should take 5% maximum

[@DjFinestWorldWide]

Fanya Mambo Kinuthia was not urging us not to pay taxes; rather, he is supporting boundaries and deadlines. Either CT Muga did not listen to Fanya Mambo Kinuthia closely, or he purposefully presented ignorance. You forced him to say it twice. The president cannot simply wake up and start taxing Kenyans more heavily.

[@albertmubei3069]

All salaried staff should support the likes of Fanya mambo kinuthia!

[@jeanpierrengirabahire6688]

Mr. Fanya Mambo, I love your arguments and I support you all the way. It's shameful to see a group of leaders sitting only to suck citizens blood instead of coming out with innovative solution to economic growth apart from taxes

[@adastudios7936]

Okiya Omtata and Fanya Mambo 2027

[@shareefcondon]

Yes

[@shareefcondon]

Yes

[@shareefcondon]

Yes

[@shareefcondon]

Yes

[@shareefcondon]

Yes

[@jeffwamburu7603]

We should have such people in the government.

[@jonesmugambi7704]

He brings very insightful perspectives to the table

[@sammysam913]

Fanya Mambo is really informed. Him, Omtata and others are wakombozi kamili of Kenya

[@nyagakajoseph2690]

He is fit to represent people in government.

[@marywahonya3346]

Very informative discussion on taxable income. Congratulations!

[@marywahonya3346]

Loans taken earlier are affecting net take home. Right?

[@maldiniinvescoltd701]

This are brains we want here in Africa. it reminds me of black Panthers in USA. In the 60 s young intelligent young and militant .

[@farmersmarket1618]

I got the perception that the Eric didn't want to grasp his point. He kept repeating that of the main issues he mentioned, he went to court to limit taxation and address KRA visitation without notice. Fanya Mambo keep doing mambo.

[@douglasmutua6967]

Great Conversation today, its good to have this show back.

[@marywahonya3346]

Why can't they give 21 days notice for KRA official visiting your home? Many thanks

[@evansotieno3746]

Very straightforward and up-to-date with the current situation in the country. He articulates issues very well and understands the constitution as to how the gov't should operate when working for the people. Fanya Mambo has the interest of the people at heart, because why would a gov't take Tax from my salary with the assumption that they are building houses, yet I have a house 🏠 of my own...

[@viviankenyaofficial]

I like how fanya mambo simplifies the understanding of paying taxes. I can’t plant my own cabbages which the government is unable to plant then the government comes for a share of my cabbages via tax

[@sageanaalogg]

Fanya mambo will get my vote with no queation if he runs for office. Very infromed, researched and articulate scholar of the law and most important common sense.

[@kungujoel7989]

fanya mambo is a very eloquent guy.

[@WWEST464]

Brilliant!! Taxes on salaries should be capped.

[@philipchirchir7035]

I listen to fanya mambo....😂😂😂.i can compare to someone learned.😅😅😅

[@edicekemunto7123]

Kudos fanya mambo,arutta continua👊👊👊

[@ruthameka]

People in these properties got title deeds from someone. These people have been staying in these properties for years. Govt is at fault. How do these people build and live on Govt land without being stopped before they start building? How do they acquire this land? It is govt's fault.

[@joycepeter1284]

The same government cartels do sell to Kenyans after grabbing government lands

[@jullietmburu9672]

Exactly!!

[@Snager001]

Ruth you maybe growing out side Kenya but I respect your comment, but my friend I live in Kenya mombasa changamwe magongo, muranga, don't laugh, their is a place close to AVA jomvu, people grabbed Kenya railway land knowing well it's KR land, but due to ignorance and knowing it's an reserved land, people built houses knowing it's a reserved land, government won't waste money on employing people to Fukuda people on government land day in day out, do it at your own risk, same to private land don't come ask where we're you.

[@haronndege1637]

Fanya mambo indeed you deserve that name I like your thinking and openness

[@tonikizito730]

Now I believe Ruto wasn't voted by Kenyans

[@andrewmosiere5032]

Nothing could be far from the truth. if elections are held today the guy will win by 60% steal the other 10%. kenyans we love mediocrity in the name of tribalism

[@mawama6719]

that is why they have beautiful, roads, clean streets, and beautiful parks where kids and grownups can have a good time!

[@josephmuthusi9055]

The guy has very good intentions. It is what we Kenyans want. Nevertheless I feel they need 'firm-up' the case some more.

[@johndoe-er3qi]

Why “firm-up”?😄 i guesse you smell the hyperbole.

[@wayando]

He knows Ruto is going to swat it aside ... So this is all for public consumption. So it doesn't need to be all that firm, since he is not going for a deep penetration.

[@azraq350]

This guy is smart.... very wise.

[@ericsimiyu6909]

Most brilliant mind I've heard on this show

[@muiri3719]

We pay 20% of our income and things work - this is what we pay in Uk

[@PRINCESSNELLY254]

Are you for real?! Do you honestly want to compare Kenya to UK?

[@jacksonogwindi1653]

​@@PRINCESSNELLY254The taxes in UK work ,why cant it work in Kenya, we are both on earth and managed by people.

[@muiri3719]

@@jacksonogwindi1653 thank you!

[@wayando]

​@@PRINCESSNELLY254.... What exactly do they do in U.K that can't be done in Kenya? ... Why don't you talk directly, instead of posing rhetorical questions.

[@jullietmburu9672]

I'd rather pay high taxes that actually work. However, we can't compare Kenya to the UK because our civil service structure is rotten to the core. Collecting higher taxes won't work if the ppl collecting have no vision.

[@justusgatome4857]

Fanya mambo ur true patriot. Kudos keep up.

[@nahashionkiania8607]

This is very enticing and encouraging,this government should be stopped from robbing a few gullible Kenyans who struggle with meagre salaries when statehouse regulars wallow in luxury stolen from ,@ Fanya mambo and co.push until something happens.

[@ianomutua4642]

Great Move by Kinuthia.100% support this

[@wairimumuriuki630]

Fanya mambo am on your side... You are talking som sence

[@maldiniinvescoltd701]

He is talking about direct taxes and fix a limit not about indirect tax .He has a point.

[@Weche_Tek]

Fanya Mambo, you get it right as to direct taxation.

[@franciskivindu2819]

This guy is making a lot of sense. This guy should be in the next parliament

[@ellyyogo3105]

Everybody looks good until they get to parliament.

[@franciskivindu2819]

@@ellyyogo3105 I agree but Omtatah is proof that we have leaders who have good morals and who are ready to remain true to their ideals

[@marta3503]

@@ellyyogo3105 You're very negative.Change your thinking.

[@info.bradafric6669]

I like this guy

[@nicholasnyandiko9418]

Fanya Mambo brother, i really feel you are my voice together we move to cry for our rights! This KK guys are just an absurdity!

[@ayubogaro7957]

Brilliant guy right there

[@Karee.z]

Great guy this one!!

[@evansosoro785]

Before they impose any tax to Kenyans let the illegitimate government create jobs in the first place. If every Kenyan has job to do then even if you tax them no problem but here you tax a Kenyan who doesn't have anything to support him or her.Ruto aondoke kwa ofisi sababu ushuru ya wakenya imekulwa na Hao watu..Fanya mambo kinuthia we are behind you.

[@info.bradafric6669]

When I we going to court, I will stop everything and come

[@petergakonde1231]

one point very important I heard from this guy is that the government should look at other means of getting money and not taxing people to all manner of ways.

[@lucymwarania3435]

I love your augments we need men like you in our country

[@user-ok7rn2np5o]

Point. Of. Information. Who. Told. Ruto. We. Want. Those. Houses. Some. Of. Us. Are. Comfortable. Where. We. Are. Our. NEED. Is. FOOD. Not. Affordable. Houses. That. Others. Are. Crying. Of. Stolen. Land.

[@gertrudekopiyo]

In my teens and early adulthood, we made clothes locally from local textiles. Fanya Mambo, it is possible to produce and sell locally as well as export. This was bottom-up because we started from cotton produced by Kenyan farmers

[@mariasequeira6008]

And the quality was excellent

[@maureenmoraa111]

But now we are importing cotton clothes from China.

[@jmandelax]

Cabinet Secretary positions should be on merit rather than political capital. We need professionals.

[@ElijaMwasi]

Fanya mambo I salute you

[@dsmk1352]

Good brains at work

[@albertmubei3069]

Kinuthia is a representative of Kenya worker because one Atwoli who is paid by Kenya employees deserted them to work for the government!

[@willieairo1963]

definately look like someone id vote for

[@harrisonkazungu7793]

I can't understand why do the government impose tax on gross salary then this amount is deducted in net salary.

[@Iam_Omondi]

What he is saying is not out of the ordinary. I have been to a country where I could negotiate between 24%, 18% and 12% tax on earnings and for each percentage they tell me what the cons and pros are and then I decide on my own. That sense of ownership sometimes even made me chose 24% tax. Introduce functional analysts and actuarist into these tax issues an dgive kenyans options-that would be the best way forward.

[@odongomoses6126]

Issues of new taxes should be an issue of a referendum

[@user-nr2is8du2p]

This guy thinks exactly like me

[@dantedkm8831]

Eric do you live in kenya coz sometimes your questions are like you are supporting our suffering

[@Chege05]

Malema of kenya is Fanya Mambo

[@chrispeeking7025]

It's funny how the presenters don't support kinuthia's idea

[@FredMugone]

They are trying to save their asses. They're scared of the truth being spoken at the studio. They fear that Ruto may pounce on them. That's why they behave the way they do. Eric is the epitome of that silly behaviour. CT & Ndu are just merely following in Eric's "footsteps." I used to like this show, lakini siku hizi hi show ni MATOPE! Eric licks Ruto's buttocks a bit too much.

[@kabuthakabutha9472]

It's the "hot seat of the situation room". Their not supposed to agree with every thing that you say.. their there to poke holes on your ideas for you to expound them more for the listers to understand.

[@wayando]

Its nit their job to support guests .... Its their job to get the guest to explain themselves and give usbtheir thinking.

[@johndoe-er3qi]

No sober judge would take him seriously. This is more about appealing to public emotion for political expediency. He says hilarious, petty things about the Govt manifesto 😄, things I would never expect an educated adult male to say. But it's his self centered middle class rants about buying his kids luxuries that takes the cake, but how about the jobless youth in the slums who has to turn to crime to feed his family? Lest we forget, housing was a centerpiece of both manifestos, we should focus on addressing the needs of those struggling rather than trivializing their plight.

[@wayando]

@@johndoe-er3qi ... Housing who? ... The aforementioned jobless youth?! 😂😂😂 .... And they will pay for the houses with what money? Be wise and know when you are being shaken down.

[@josephnjenga8347]

CT how did the kenyans acquire the land? who ever signs those deeds should be forced to compensate and jailed for life

[@martinkipchirchir4948]

The truth always wins.

[@estherodera4382]

What will people of KENYA live on if all their money goes to RUTO? What is the point of all these TAXATIONS 😂

[@patrickguga5178]

Privacy needed especially from KRA and tax collector's

[@cryptoth4n0s77]

Fanya Mambo has a good idea but he is caught up in the emotion. As at 28:41 he has not yet answered how they arrived to 20% which Latiff is still wanting to get an answer from him about it

[@mwendapoleee]

He is a human being thats why he has emotions,he’s passionate.

[@wayando]

Obviously it abitrary ... Preferably we would want to keep all of your salary. But since we need to pool resources to get certain things done we have to find an acceptable fraction of our income to give towards KNOWN common objectives. And 20% is an acceptable number because it has worked in many other countries. And it guarantees that you will keep at least 3 quarters of you pay that you worked for.

[@user-sh1pz4yo8b]

Wise people known by their talk.

[@thef22raptor15]

A guy who thinks exactly like me

[@thomassang3856]

Good job journalist

[@edwardonyaoking8173]

I want Ruto to increase taxes by 10 0000 zillion kenya shillings. I want ruto to increase poverty and inequality by 700 000 zillion kenya shillings. By selecting ruto kenyans agreed to politrickal patronage cronyism and thuggish and gangsterish and criminals. Lower quality of life for all kenyans except politrickal cronies of government. Sasa all kenyans must embrace this serekali and not complaining

[@williekitala6567]

i like this guy....the problem is Kenyans cannot and will not revolt like Egyptians, Libyans and Tunisians...sisi ni waoga kama Eric Latiff, truth be told...we demonstrate on social media against the Government, yet on the ground we do it for few hours then kesho stupidity comes in...... mnaanza kulalamika biashara na mali zinaaharibika, Pastors waseme kuwe na dialogue....we need to wake up Kenyans!

[@kaltumaaila6942]

Let me baptis him new name Martin Luther King for he resemble him and bright speech as him

[@savingtruth6411]

We should all go to Court.

[@kimkirwa]

When presenting arguments, it is important to avoid attaching personal emotions to them. Instead, it is more effective to be rational and present factual information.

[@johndoe-er3qi]

True, his emotive language and personal grievances against the president and his manifesto detract from the argument and smack of political vendetta.

[@sternstern321]

Tugege consoling themselves here. Take it or leave it, the president has and is messing this country.

[@alexsimiyu8582]

Kirwa...hehehe.

[@jaredndubi8138]

Says "Kirwa"....

[@marta3503]

Kirwa,name betrays you.We understand you😆😆

[@user-ok7rn2np5o]

CRY. MY. BELOVED. COUNTRY.

[@user-ok7rn2np5o]

WE. .WANT. WOMAN. PRESIDENT. 2027.

[@DjFinestWorldWide]

Fanya Mambo Kinuthia is not urging us not to pay taxes; rather, he is supporting boundaries and deadlines. Either CT Muga did not listen to Fanya Mambo Kinuthia closely, or he purposefully presented ignorance. You forced him to say it twice. The president cannot simply wake up and start taxing Kenyans more heavily.

[@veronicawanjiru3223]

Aki ,u spice team are enjoying this guy ,😂😂😂🎉😂 ,,have always admired ur intelligence tho😅😅

[@Mlmfirestraikegmail.]

I get his point of view. The majority of tax should be from indirect taxes which is directly related to the Country's productivity (case in point Germany & Mercedes Benz). Gvt creates a conducive environment for businesses, business thrives, gvt gets more taxes from Corporate taxes and VAT on the sold products. In Kenya PAYE collection at Shs 494 million is double VAT collection which means the 3% in employment are proper enslaved.

[@michaelnganga3872]

Kinuthia, Guten Tag, wie geht's Ihnen? I think I remember you from Goethe Institute.....I left for Germany after the course....

[@cegemwangi7988]

Factcheck, your guest Fanya Mambo, Sanjay Gadhi National Park is inside Mumbai city. Nairobi is not the only city with a national park.

[@thomassang3856]

Why to you buy when you know it's government property

[@jameskinuthia-nx5zu]

Fanya Mambo 4 prezzo 2027

[@joshuawekesa7094]

This guy and omatatah are smart

[@Amos-gx9nn]

Kweli huyu ni FANYA MAMBO

[@user-hr6ej3jt2i]

Mr Fanya Mambo,you can't fire people who sponsored your campaign we are doomed as a Nation.,remember you become a CS because you supported the winning political party.

[@thomassang3856]

How can you paid the government services

[@practicaljesusinternationa7093]

Reason, Evry other president has nver had to follow the rule of law. Before Ruto it was the Rule of the president. That is it. Kenyans are not used to the RULE OF LAW.

[@benardmakori6924]

Zakayo!

[@morphkuhani4081]

Its clear nowwhy he is called fanya mambo-good work -are you the opposition leader in Kenya?

[@ekaleekwamjay3687]

Latif skuizi hushikia hii gava bond 😅😅😅

[@user-pe4zf8ie7r]

When you have three salaried presenters who are finding it difficult to follow the logic that direct taxes are unfair, then we clearly do not have any hope here, we will be taxed to death.

[@isaacmtange3460]

Kinuthia go Ruto ametuchokesha na tax and doing nothing nikutembea tu kila mkoa kudanganya wakenya

[@thomassang3856]

This guy is not a lawyer ,he doesn't about kenya

[@niominiomi3334]

Ruto coming for you. Omtata is now arrested😮why can't Kenyans arrest Ruto?

[@michealnyangara3372]

We have Titanium in kwale county. Who benefits?

[@ericangweye3245]

So the government should not tax you, but you need hospitals built and stoked with medicine , roads to be done, children to go to school, infrastructure in general to be done, but you don't want to pay taxes? this is a lawyer from where? very warped thinking.

[@rosenangila1125]

Hii ndio inabamba sasa 💯

[@user-cb9ct4bt4h]

Mchunge pia na nyinyi msibebwe na ndege.

[@user-ku3lo8yz5e]

Hawa wakora wapunguze bei ya building materials tujijengee wenyewe

[@kimkirwa]

We should acknowledge the fact that our constitution is considered one of the most progressive in Africa. However, it is important to recognize that funding all the offices, services, and programs that we desire requires a significant amount of money. The question then arises: where should the government obtain this funding? One option is to borrow more money. However, it is crucial to understand that borrowing creates a postponed debt that we will eventually have to repay at a later date. This means that while borrowing may provide immediate funds, it also adds to our long-term financial obligations. Therefore, it is essential to carefully consider the implications of borrowing and explore alternative sources of revenue to ensure sustainable financial stability in the long run.

[@iamsyourdadi]

Progressive doesn't mean good necessarily...and we dont need all those services, offices and programs

[@danielmuriithi8486]

Progressive doesn't necessarily mean good

[@iamsyourdadi]

@@danielmuriithi8486 Great minds they say....i commented the same thing

[@danielmuriithi8486]

@@iamsyourdadi I just realized 🤣🤣

[@jaredndubi8138]

Ruto is just looting and running the country down

[@chepindichepindi3328]

We nothing but consumers who like someone else to produce then we take. We are rich people with a poor mentality period.