Why Logan Is Better than Dark Knight Rises | SCENE FIGHTS!

[@ScreenCrush]

As I say in the video, I don't hate Dark Knight Rises. But it tries to spin too many plates, while Logan is able to focus on a single, linear story. This video explains why.

[@lordvenjix3757]

Ok

[@v-rex6262]

Despite it's flaws I really like The Dark Knight Rises. It's better than most blockbusters today. And look at Batman's sacrifice like this. Batman did die. But Bruce Wayne lived. Oh and Baddoug is so cute.

[@rithistewartx5908]

I agree with you screen crush

[@ScriptWriter66]

Nice to know

[@SaurianStudios1207]

@@v-rex6262 better than kotm lol and g fans say that movie was good when it really wasn’t

[@SpeedyJuiceBroBrian-wd9mb]

Hugh Jackman was born to play Wolverine and we all know it.

[@buildawall5803]

I remember when they casted him and fans complained about his height not being accurate 6,2 but it's 5,2 in the comics

[@captainjefferies9047]

Too tall, Too handsome. You don't know wolverine.

[@EternityFandom]

Logan is a cinematic masterpiece. I really cried at the cinema when the movie ended. Hugh Jackman is a fantastic actor but unfortunately, he didn't get an oscar for his mesmerizing performance.

[@waltercorleone9531]

Batman Begins: The best begin of a superhero. The Dark Knight: The best fall of a superhero. Logan: The best rise of a superhero.

[@seanj3667]

Logan is a tough one to watch, especially when you've cared for someone with Alzheimer's.

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@waltercorleone9531 Nolan sucks and so do his movies.

[@boy3313]

I never understood why the two groups with guns run at each other for a fist fight...

[@captainjefferies9047]

Because Nolan sucks.

[@tyson543]

If we split this film into 2 parts: The Dark Knight Falls The Dark Knight Rises

[@madavarams268]

You forgot The Dark Knight Heals

[@PezLoPezLopez]

Doug's commentary is always on point, man... every time

[@steviejeets6479]

His cadence is almost poetic. Brings me to tears.

[@jakekayden4061]

Idk he seems too pretentious

[@nabeelshajan6294]

😂😂😂😂

[@soos8785]

Not really half his points don’t make sense, or rather he doesn’t understand TDKR cause everything he said makes no damn sense.

[@AnonYmous-mc5zx]

Doug really needs his own spin off channel.

[@icknau5782]

I disagree with your thoughts on the theme of "fear" regarding the absence of the rope. I think it ties into going back to his identity as Batman. In Batman Begins, he chooses the bat as a symbol of his own fear, which he turns to his advantage to stop crime. In this movie, he initially says he doesn't fear death, almost as if being Batman for all these years has made him fearless. It was only until he didn't use the rope that fear returned to him and pushed his body to the max and be able to jump to the platform. Also, the obvious imagery of the bats flying out before he makes the jump further proves this claim. Just my take.

[@ScreenCrush]

I think youve made a great point!

[@icknau5782]

@@ScreenCrush Thanks! I enjoyed the video and never would have thought to compare these two films.

[@chrisAclaes]

You keep saying that the Dark Knight learned to overcome his fear of death. But, with respect, I don’t think that’s what the pit scene represents. He didn’t fear death, he embraced it. What let him escape the pit was learning to fear death again because he had something to live for. That’s why he had to jump without the rope. At least that’s my interpretation.

[@thegibberishsinger]

I loved the two part theory, not because it's tried and tested and we've loved it but because the time it gives the story and tge characters to breathe and complete their arcs. I totally agree with you. If we had a time machine I'd definitely want you to go back in time and pitch this to Nolan. Loved the video, stay safe.

[@aishwarymishra5946]

Ending of the TDKR isn't stupid. I actually felt good when watching it in theatre that how the words of Alfred are becoming real. Batman does deserves a retirement.

[@jacobhargiss3839]

I think thats what they were building the whole trilogy. Bruce is always willing to put his life on the line because he doesnt fear death. The dark knight rises shows the continuation of this and its pinacle moment involves bruce reclaiming his will to live, it would be a great disservice to this arc if just 30 minutes later hes back to sacrificing himself. Instead he finally gets to move on and have the happiness he has been missing nearly his entire life.

[@alexfrank5331]

Bruce Wayne would not retire even if he gets terminal cancer and has 1 month left to live.

[@jacobhargiss3839]

@@alexfrank5331 sure he would. Hes done it a ton. Case in point, batman beyond.

[@dbsasuke]

It was stupid. I left the theater so mad

[@SaintoftheHonest]

1:26 In the Old Man Logan comics that Logan is based on, Wolverine *actually* killed all the X-Men. Red Skull directed every Villain and Supervillain towards a hero that they normally wouldn't face. As such, Mysterio made Logan believe he was being attacked by every villain the X-Men had faced at once. "Logan, what did you do?" isn't Charles assuming anything, this is essentially confirmation that the same is true in the universe (but Fox don't have the rights to bring up Mysterio).

[@PS-ug7nm]

In the movie it's Charles is the one who killed the mutants Logan has been keeping this information from the increasingly senile professor-which we find out when Charles, on what will become his death bed, suddenly remembers everything. “I don't deserve it, do I?” he says of the idyllic night he, X-23, and Logan spend on an Oklahoma farm after fleeing the casino. “I did something. . . something unspeakable. I remembered what happened in Westchester. This is not the first time that I’ve hurt people. Until today, I didn’t know. You didn’t tell me, so we kept on running away from it. I think . . . I finally understand you.” As terrifyingly potent as Charles’s brain is, he didn’t actually wipe out all the mutants. Modern science took care of the rest. In an attempt to get control of mutantkind, or so he claims, the evil Dr. Zander Rice (Richard E. Grant) concocted a formula that would suppress the mutant gene. Unfortunately, his formula-present in the genetically-altered corn syrup his company was mass manufacturing-nearly wiped out the mutants instead. There are a few stragglers, like Stephen Merchant’s Caliban, who survived both Charles and Dr. Rice. Maybe albinos prefer a corn-, sugar-free paleo diet? .... Sauce : VanityFair

[@charlespuruncajas9663]

@@PS-ug7nm yeah I agree with that being explained (or foreshadowed) in the film

[@TrueGamer22887]

Expert that’s not at all confirmation in the movie version and you obviously didn’t pay attention to the film at all

[@pinoybalut1556]

I would never watch Logan again, it breaks my heart and every scene is so suspense that I can't take.

[@theangelking96]

You are WAAAAAY underrated Rayan!!! Always a great video, thank you very much for explaining cinematography and comic book culture like no one other!!!

[@SaurianStudios1207]

I honestly never thought of the similarities between Logan and the dark knight rises since ones kinda of a standalone movie while the other is the third entry of the trilogy. I don’t get all the hate that the dark knight rises gets, it’s still imo An impressive and excellent conclusion to the dark knight trilogy, it’s pretty disappointing compared to the dark knight though, and at best it’s on par with Batman begins. While Nolan may half assed TDKR, it’s still a better movie than most superhero movies. Logan on the other hand, was just an incredible movie, emotionally resonate and a powerful standalone conclusion to wolverines character arch, and honestly one of the best superhero movies I’ve seen in a long time.

[@JohnL-m2l]

Too many illogical things and plot holes and plot contrivances in TDKR. The 1st 2 movies, especially TDK made me feel like if Batman was real, maybe this is what it would look like. TDKR on the other hand, just made me feel nope.

[@JoshB_TheTower]

Technically Logan is the ending to the "wolverine solo trilogy"

[@aaronsmith7946]

Well, the thing is, The Dark Knight Rises, like all other sequels, is compared more to the movie(s) in the series that preceded it and because Batman Begins & The Dark Knight were both SO DAMN GOOD (Batman Begins is underappreciated in my opinion) that The Dark Knight Rises would have had to maintain a sort of level that no other trilogy has. For example, while I liked Return of the Jedi pretty much the same as I liked The Empire Strikes Back however it is widely held among critics to be the weakest of the three movies. However, again, like many trilogies, take that movie out and judge it on its own and you get something appreciated much more. Another example of this would be that Godfather trilogy. However, I think you would come to find (again, not in my opinion because, like I said, I think Batman Begins is majorly underappreciated) that The Dark Knight Rises breaks the trend among these examples. For example, if you look at the IMDB ratings, with The Godfather Trilogy you have: The Godfather - 9.2 The Godfather: Part II - 9.0 The Godfather: Part III - 7.6 A New Hope: - 8.6 Empire Strikes Back - 8.7 Return of the Jedi - 8.3 Batman Begins - 8.2 The Dark Knight - 9.0 The Dark Knight Rises - 8.4 As you can see, so many people found The Godfather to be the best of the trilogy which, in comparison to other trilogies, is not uncommon. However, for the other two, the 2nd movie happened to be found to be the best of the trilogies (considering how great the first of each of these trilogies are, the fact that the 2nd movie in the latter 2 are considered better as well as considering how great so many people found The Godfather 2 to be, is something that makes these trilogies not just unique, but probably the three of the four best trilogies in movie existence). If you add the trilogy ratings together, The Godfather is the best at a total of 25.8 but the other two are just barely behind at a total of 25.6, giving the entire Godfather trilogy an average of 8.6 and the latter 2 an average of 8.5. However, for you, you may find it refreshing to see (Although I do not agree), that The Dark Knight Rises bucked the trend with the other two with the third being the worst as Rises is considered to be better than Batman Begins. So, you see, whoever thinks The Dark Knight Rises gets a lot of hate can be directed to this fact, which is that it is considered to be better the best (by rating or by being considered better than the original - even if I don't agree). If you notice I said three out of the best four and that is because there is one trilogy that beats them all on IMDB. Again, that is not really my opinion, nor do I think Return of the King is the best of the three but what can you do? I would say IMDB was wrong but considering it is actually just based on millions of people voting, it's hard to say it is not the general opinion of the people, but who knows what the standard voter of IMDB looks like other than, I would guess, younger people...and maybe younger people that hasn't seen the Godfather movies. I don't know. Anyway, in case people are wondering, they are rated: Fellowship of the Ring - 8.8 The Two Towers - 8.7 Return of the King - 8.9 This means the Lord of the Rings trilogy has a 26.4 total, meaning an average of 8.8, which is insane. It is also rare in that the third is considered the best. Anyway, at least you know The Dark Knight Rises is appreciated quite a bit as it is liked more than Godfather Part III & The Return of the Jedi and that the feeling that it isn't amazing is pretty much based on people only comparing it to the first 2 movies in the trilogy rather than fairly considering the movie on its own.

[@aaronsmith7946]

@@JohnL-m2l OK - this comment has to be a joke. You should think about it a little more and realize how silly that is (and the Dark Knight is one of my all time favorite movies).

[@skidrow5165]

They are all third entries

[@ScreenCrush]

Is Logan the best superhero film of all time?

[@lordvenjix3757]

Logan is One Of The Best R Rated Movies Of All Time

[@tobicrowther]

@@lordvenjix3757 yes

[@jovanym2931]

ScreenCrush No

[@andersonpessoa]

Endgame says hello

[@lukeswan7776]

It's not even the best xmen film

[@hassamkhan5267]

Bruh, this dude finds so many similarities between movies, it seems as if they copied each other LOL

[@Agrillot6]

He must be some sort of savant, he definitely has special powers of his own.

[@clevernickname3396]

Dude The Dark Knight Rises came out in 2012 and Logan came out in 2017. I don’t think they copied each other.

[@Xmj202]

I actually really liked Dark Knight Rises

[@Q-TebGamesNL]

Me too bruh

[@steveleeart]

Yea it’s excellent. Both are great. Growth up with the Bane story in the comics I’m partial to DKRs. I also would have liked for Logan to have had Ian McKellen in it somehow.

[@steveleeart]

I actually would have loved to have seen DKR as a three or four season series.

[@isaiahmamake9751]

Same because plot isn’t a big deal for me

[@eigmatic8166]

Same

[@kingmira9907]

In no way that TDKR is trash as people think, it just pales in comparison to TDK and Batman Begins. It's in no way a bad movie but it just does not live up to the quality of the previous films. Just like how some MCU movies are being trashed because it pales in comparison to other MCU movies *cough* thor, thor 2, age of ultron *cough*, but those movies are not that bad in general.

[@jakubrejak1114]

The Dark Knight Rises is excellent. It outshines 97% MCU movies, with the exceptions being Ragnarok, Infinity War and Endgame. It's also far better than the Dark Knight and slightly superior to Man of Steel and Batman v Superman.

[@TrueGamer22887]

What? It’s better than begins, 1st one is easily the weakest in the series

[@Knoxkuma13]

I’d argue that it’s better than Batman begins and I personally like it more than tdk

[@jpat1513]

IMO TDKR is better than BB, the pacing is certainly worse than BB but it basically improves on everything else

[@kingmira9907]

@@Knoxkuma13 Well, to each his own I guess.

[@lightyagami1058]

The Dark Knight Rises The Dark Knight Gets Out of Bed The Dark Knight Gets Dressed For Work The Dark Knight Eats Pancakes For Breakfast The Dark Knight Brushes His Teeth The Dark Knight Gets in His Car and Leaves The Dark Knight Returns From Work The Dark Knight Eats Dinner The Dark Knight Takes a Shower The Dark Knight Goes to Sleep.

[@alfredborden5675]

6:41 He's literally limping while struggling to run towards his bike at the end of Dark Knight😒

[@christwarrior8501]

Yea, I was thinking the same thing because if you go back and look at TDK, they show other shots of Batman stumbling and running into objects due to his leg and him limping. It was just a minor mistake he made lol.

[@icebearplays7843]

Wolverine gets solo film The x-men: are Solo film

[@veerchasm1]

The worst part of DKR is how everybody repeatedly tells the audience how “unbeatable” Bane is. Show it, don’t say it...FYI Doug says you’re fired

[@miguelramirez3610]

I disagree with this vid the dark knight rises wasn’t that bad and I liked the ending

[@Bram_Moya]

Me too, to me seems too harsh on it. And lost me with thag pitch on how he would do the movie. I think Nolan knowshis craft

[@Jane-qh2yd]

@@Bram_Moya It should be harsh especially after The Dark Knight was made. Nolan is a phenomenal director, thats we we expect more

[@SWDude2710]

@@Jane-qh2yd not that harsh, surely.

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@Jane-qh2yd He sucks, and so do his movies.

[@carpemkarzi]

1)Doug is always right 2) I have a major back injury and so yeahhhhhhh “movies” is guess. 3) Logan is always a major win.

[@charleschristman6582]

Silly... that’s harsh. Overall Logan is a better movie but stop hating on “Rises”. Greatest Superhero Trilogy ever.

[@ScreenCrush]

Hard to argue with that statement, but Rises is definitely the weakest film. I think Nolan was over it by then.

[@spencermalley10]

@@ScreenCrush Would you have preferred a new director replace him for the third movie?

[@nooboi1510]

Spencer Malley i don’t see anyone who could do that other than nolan

[@ScreenCrush]

What do you think of Dark Knight Rises?

[@lordvenjix3757]

One Of The Best Nolan Movies Of All Time

[@SaurianStudios1207]

Underrated conclusion to a trilogy and its a lot better than what people give it credit for, even though it fails to top the dark knight.

[@jakubrejak1114]

Underrated masterpiece.

[@jakubrejak1114]

@@asm_6168 The Dark Knight is highly overrated.

[@mr.moviemafia]

I love both TDKR and LOGAN, but LOGAN is absolutely the better movie. It’s incredible.

[@edmilsonlennon2866]

Never thought these two movies would have so many similarities

[@lordcraig256]

The Dark Knight Rises had a pretty tough task being a follow-up to the Dark Knight, and while I agree that the story could have been better told over the course of 2 movies, Nolan only wanted to do a trilogy which forced him to jam a lot of story and exposition into a single movie that also had to deliver a fitting end to the character.

[@Oderus_Urungus]

Your rewrite of DKR was basically what I had thought when the movie first came out (start with him obsessed with being batman).

[@dwoodstwin]

I always thought TDKR should have picked up immediately after TDK. Batman is already worn out and injured. Have Bane ambush him right then at the beginning of the movie. After breaking his back, Bane tells alfred that Batman must never return or the League of Shadows will return to destroy Gotham. Then the rest of the movie is about Bruce trying and failing to rehabilitate until the bomb is stolen by Bane. Bane was lying about the League not coming back. Batman eventually returns and wins.

[@TaskForce_911]

I liked Dark Knight Rises better than Logan just because it had a better villain + all plot points were better told and the plan of Bane was so well done and that ending was so good with Batman saving the city. And, the old Butler of Batman didn't die just like Professor Charles died.Nolan's works are legendary and as also of Hans Zimmer.

[@ScreenCrush]

I disagree about the plot points being well told. The movie runs all over the map, literally, and barely has time to explore any of the ideas it throws at us.

[@spencermalley10]

@@ScreenCrush I dont agree. Bruces character journey is the heart and soul of Rises and for whatever little nitpicks you can throw at it, that part is executed absolutely perfectly. Its also the part that will be harmed the most by splitting it into the two movies.

[@MaxStudiosOfficial]

I have been saying the same thing since Logan released... But everyone gives tons of fu*k words because they can't digest that Logan is better Dark Knight...

[@chawla1126]

They will not, they will never because they are soooo blinded with one movie and around 100 years later also these dumb kids will stuck on dark Knight only.

[@Better_selection]

FUN FACT: Everyone else including me who's commenting right now haven't watched half of the video yet

[@ScreenCrush]

Yeah I think a lot of people just rush to defending Nolan without hearing me out.

[@Better_selection]

@@ScreenCrush lol YESSIR

[@charlespuruncajas9663]

Do: Why Deadpool 2 worked in what Birds of Prey failed to Both films are extremely similar: Follow up to a 2016 movie (BoP being a continuation for Suicide Squad), hero suffers the loss of loved one, finds redemption in saving a child (Russell/Cassandra), gets arrested, assassin crossing paths (Cable/Huntress) later becomes allied, hero makes friendship with an African American female side kick (which was Caucasian in the comics), masked villain (Juggernaut/Black Mask), and both ends with hero fulfilling him/herself.

[@TrueGamer22887]

Holy cow those are the most surface level comparisons I’ve ever seen lmaoo

[@Johnny_Bigodes]

Dude that easy. Everything depends on the script. Interesting lines, interesting characters. BoP seams off as hell. Everything in that movie is boring. The action scenes are stupid and made for kids. So fake. And all the dialogue is boring as it is Black Mask... That drag queen is nothing like the comics os the games version. Sucks.

[@internettraveler8666]

I liked birds or prey more than Deadpool 2

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@internettraveler8666 I don't even believe that.

[@internettraveler8666]

@@captainjefferies9047 have you seen it? It's a fine enough action flick and I really don't like deadpool's sense of humor

[@gerryfegan3608]

I actually loved both movies. Logan just had alot more of an emotional impact

[@IbsenRogerGomesRego]

I give you the name of the missing link: The Dark Knight Falls.

[@andrewwhitfield5480]

The joke was on us. I'm a "Think Story" out of here. TDKR was a fine film and Nolan is great.

[@ScreenCrush]

no disagreement there

[@andrewwhitfield5480]

@@ScreenCrush Much love to ya and thanks for the great content.

[@niyasrahman8338]

Like Bane whenever you can understand him 😂 Ryan Arey savage level 500%

[@Mr_Never_Sad]

Batman gets shot in his leg at the end of the Dark Knight, that’s why he has a limp in the next movie.

[@Janhouu]

What's this hate against Rises?

[@nikxbharali1999]

0:24 - "First, let's look at their many similarities!", and the first similarity is how Logan and Bane fight so similar to each other 😂😂😂 Good One 👍🏻

[@MarkWilliams-es3wc]

you are so damn good at this. I hope doing this is making a great profit for you. Keep up the amazing work!!

[@recka30]

i don’t think doug has ever been wrong with his predictions

[@jpat1513]

Strongly disagree on TDKR being a 2-parter. Hunger Games has taught us that the franchise grinds to a haunt in the first movie and something is left desired in the second

[@ScreenCrush]

That was an adaptation, so the rules don't really apply to DKR. Harry Potter was also a disaster when it was split. But if you're writing a script from scratch, you can frame the story however you like. The dark Knight trilogy was epic, and it deserved an epic ending

[@jpat1513]

@@ScreenCrush you have a point that liberties can be taken, I’ll give you that. My point was less that DKR had no choice but to not do a 2-part and more rather that there are few circumstances that a 2-parter works well. What the avengers pulled off benefited from many, many characters having a story arc so there was a lot to put into two movies. I don’t think DKR had enough characters to pull off a 2-parter without it dragging in certain points.

[@spencermalley10]

@@ScreenCrush It got an epic ending.

[@phoule76]

I didn't realize that the Professor thought Logan was responsible for the Westchester incident.

[@phoule76]

I could've sworn it was your mom.

[@myriamflores7200]

Although I agree with pretty much everything said un this video, I disagree with the title of the movie being about Batman rising from the pit. I think the title "The Dark Knight Rises" has more to do with Batman being elevated to a symbol, to an idea, thats why at the end of the movie it doesn't matter anymore who is behind the mask. Batman stops being a man in a bat suit and becomes an entity by itself. And that's why the mantel is passed to Robin.

[@dickgrayson2878]

Doug is giving me serious chills.I am in my bed tonight and cannot turn my lights off.The way of his speech style his menacing look

[@TheOnlyGuermo]

I usually skip the ScreenCrush videos that aren't pitch meeting, but I really like these, and not just because of Doug. Good job.

[@Hannah-li1bh]

We need more of these!

[@spencermalley10]

Theres actually a very good reason TDKR cannot be two movies. If it were, It would mean Bruce would get basically nothing to do in the second movie until the very end. He would spend most of the runtime in the prison pit. For Bruces character arc to flow as smoothly as it does, It really needs to be one movie. What worked for the Avengers would not work here.

[@RESpeaight]

I honestly think you should be hired as a script doctor. I really enjoyed this video and your suggestions on how to improve it are spot on.

[@ScreenCrush]

Wow, thank you!

[@marcuslee3051]

Do: Logan vs Joker (who deserved an Oscar and why is it Mr. Jackman?)

[@George-fb9pw]

I agree with alot of what youve said but you did say "batman has a bad knee despite never having ran with a limp in this series" but then immediately show the clip of him running with a limp due to the injuries he obtained in TDK

[@eyob.t1389]

It's been 8 years tho

[@George-fb9pw]

@@eyob.t1389 Im unsure of what u mean

[@craftymasterproductions4218]

He meant that if TDKR is set 8 years after the events of TDK, then Batman would’ve had more than enough time to heal from his injuries.

[@George-fb9pw]

@@craftymasterproductions4218 fair enough but ur never told the extent of the injury until TDKR so it could well be that the injury was to severe to recover from especially if was out of commission

[@dddaaaannnnn]

I love your videos! I think you're the most insightful reviwer of this genre around. Totally agree with you on TDKR, and I suppose I agree with your specific point about Logan, but I don't think it's a good movie in general. Too many characters are discarded after having screen time invested in them. Caliban and Xavier should have died far sooner--as the movie stands now, they seem like storylines that ultimately didn't matter, and remind us that more time could have been spent on Logan/Laura. A poignant scene with Xavier at the beginning would have been quite enough before his death, as there were SO MANY movies that already established the strength of their bond. As I said, your videos are always so on point and always teach me new things to love about superhero stories!

[@ScreenCrush]

Thanks! I disagree about Xavier's death. He held on long enough to remind Logan there was something worth fighting for.

[@MorganLeodeMenezes]

It would be better if they would divided the dark knight rises into two part The first part the fall of batman The second part rise/return of batman

[@CamberRockerCamber]

DKR isn't bad, just a lot of holes and Bane is too easy to make fun of. Also, did Bruce regrow ligaments in his knees?

[@aryankaushik93]

Bane is great

[@masudaparvez221]

If it was done like that then the title would be Batman Begins The Dark Knight The Dark Knight falls The Dark Knight rises 😉😉😉

[@retailjedi4473]

Half way through I forgot this was a Logan/Dkr comparison

[@yasminedrissemarouane7161]

Still can't get over the fact that logan did not win any award. Even the trailer is oscar worthy.

[@ScreenCrush]

None?

[@yasminedrissemarouane7161]

@@ScreenCrush well none of the big one's.

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

Bruce needs to literally do away with his safety line to triumph. Bruce then immediately sets up the auto-pilot so he doesn't have to even risk anything to win.

[@ScreenCrush]

Yeah, it's a mess.

[@kentroklus]

I’d watch the hell out of that two-parter.

[@HVG67]

Ok I love both movies. The end of Logan is obviously more poignant.. but excellent comparison. But my take is: even though the stories are alike, it's 🍎 to 🍊..

[@henny925]

My theory on the dark knight rises: Christopher Nolen wanted out. It was the last film in his contract and he wanted more funding for his passion projects

[@ScreenCrush]

I think you're right

[@spencermalley10]

He still absolutely brought his A-game though.

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@spencermalley10 His "a-Game" is a competent directors F game.

[@waltercorleone9531]

Batman Begins: The best origin of a superhero. The Dark Knight: The best fall of a superhero. Logan: The best ending of a superhero

[@adamhendrickson512]

The Dark Knight Rises is FANTASTIC film...

[@captainjefferies9047]

Sucks.

[@myriad2878]

Dude, your boss is a mad genius! The first time you hear what he has to say it's like "What?", but then later after you've broken it down it's like "DAMN! He was right!"

[@carlfromtheoc1788]

Dark Knight did have too many story lines. Could have eliminated the whole "Robin" line and had Catwoman saving the kids. Also, Bane - could barely understand him and he is usually the hired muscle and less out front. Anne Hathaway is nice, pretty, has curves, but absolutely lacked the danger or menace Catwoman should have. Think Michelle Pfeiffer, or Julie Newmar, both had menace to them, Anne was more of a cute college girl cosplaying at a decent sized -con. Just my two cents, your mileage will vary.

[@ScreenCrush]

My problem is, I like everything that was introduced. Everyone is great. I just think we needed more time to explore the ideas and characters.

[@spencermalley10]

Nolan likes to have ensemble casts. I really dont see how its anymore a problem for Rises than it is for any other movie hes ever made.

[@oprahIV]

Just rewatched Logan and The Dark Knight Rises and I gotta say Logan simply takes the cake. DKR is still freaking awesome but Logan wrapped up the X-Men and Logan so damn well. I shed a tear both times too 😭 When Logan tells Charles “it wasn’t me. It wasn’t me” it stuck me right in the heart Then when Charles talked about the sunseeker 😭😭😭😭😅😅😭

[@Jnroyston07]

Dark knight rises underated

[@JohnCottier]

I think you misspelled "overrated."

[@Jnroyston07]

@@JohnCottier how is it overrated it’s usually people’s least fave It wasn’t perfect and the ending left a lot to dissire But it was a good film with good minentsb

[@Rustincohle88]

@@JohnCottier Logan is more overrated

[@aryankaushik93]

@@JohnCottier nah not at all it's underrated

[@lordvenjix3757]

Awesome Content Bro 👍

[@CursedMidnight]

Excellent work as always Ryan! You put the competition like New Rockstars to shame.

[@masudaparvez221]

Still miss Hue Jackman as Logan I hope MCU will cast him as Wolverine (ultimate version)

[@Jane-qh2yd]

He is too old

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@Jane-qh2yd too tall, too handsome, too Australian.

[@sumdomguoy548]

@@captainjefferies9047 wolverine is supposed to be 5’3

[@captainjefferies9047]

@@sumdomguoy548 Spider-Man can shoot webs.

[@everythingin2544]

I always feels that something was off about this movie and this video clarify my feelings. I agree with his ideas about the movie.

[@JustinWoo]

I hated TDKR, but splitting it into two films would've really, really helped.

[@manashbhatta9253]

I cried when Wolverine died 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@masterbateman2686]

Who didn’t?

[@howtoman2054]

We all did

[@aryankaushik93]

I cried in tdkr too

[@matthew-jy5jp]

Great video as always 😊👍

[@ahabwolf7580]

Awesome analysis as usual. 100% agree with your rework idea for TDKR.

[@eddielovelace4127]

4:13 Don't mind me, I'm just leaving the time code for all my fishers homies out there, so they can also enjoy that beautiful spinner bait

[@ZenithAngel]

Dark Knight Rises is misunderstood and underrated tbh

[@lukeswan7776]

Controversial opinion TDKR was the better film. My only issue with the TDKR is Batman doesn't learn how to beat Bane after getting his ass kicked the first time. He just goes toe to toe with him again. In the Dark Knight Returns he beats a bigger, quicker, younger opponent by luring him in to a mud pit to take away the advantages he has with the line "your on a operating table and I'm the surgeon" as he breaks his joints before belting the shit out of him.

[@PS-ug7nm]

_I think both of them were different and good in their respective genres🙌🏼_ ....

[@matthewfanelli3735]

How would this movie be perceived if the bar hadn't been set so high from the Dark Knight?

[@captainjefferies9047]

That move sucked too.

[@marcusduck]

for me, the problem with the dark knight rises was the lackluster climax. all that setup and exposition done only to be paid off with "nO. I cAme BaCK to StOP yOu". also, with that plethora amount of exposition in the pit, i realized how much Nolan wanted Bruce and us(the audience) to believe that Bane was the child of Ra's al ghul, all for that plot twist to blow us away, which in my opinion.. didn't quite work. AND then, Talia's death lmao

[@jakubrejak1114]

Climax worked just fine, aside from Talia's death. Bane got outsmarted twice and finally lost. Gordon and Blake became smaller heroes of Gotham. And Bruce - whether he died or lived, finally achieved happiness.

[@thomasmauritsen687]

Gonna have to side with Doug on this one Ryan, but appreciate all you do for this awesome channel

[@yusicheema4211]

Stop disrespecting Dark Knight Rises !! Yeah it’s not on Logan’s level, but it’s still a really good movie. Not everything is meant to be a cinematic masterpiece

[@mitchmunson]

We need a Ryan Arey ”That's Your Mom" compilation video!!!

[@kandisecraig9540]

I come back to this video regularly, solely for Dougs Batman impression. An Oscar worthy performance.

[@SharpDesign]

Imagine in this alternate version where Batman doubles down on Batman and rejects his life as Bruce. He talks to Alfred in the Batman voice while out of costume. Alfred realizes Bruce is gone and leaves.

[@Joeyjoejoe1708]

Your suggestions for Dark Knight Rises are the exact thoughts I had back in the day after leaving the cinema.

[@thedoneeye]

I would say a few words as to why I disagree with your boss Doug.... But he frightens me.

[@The_Based_Batman]

I like the movies Chris Nolan made but Begins is the only true Batman Movie I'll say he made. The Dark Knight as a whole is good but the only downsides to me is actually Batman himself with the cancer voice and how they spend more time talking about being a symbol than actually, doing. Rises was decent but again, his cancer voice got worse. Plus while stylized by Nolan's vision, Gotham doesn't seem too oppressive like the first. It looks too... Clean and not at all gothic like Burton or even the first movie. There's not enough street crime through out until the climax. It's more about the philosophies of men and suppressing chaos which works, I got what he was going for but it came off as too preachy and less subtle. Again, I liked the movies. Logan though was self contained and had really dark THEMES but they were mostly implied which, IMO is far better than outright saying it. The only complaint I had was the opening where it seemed a bit too try hard to reach the R rating but it hit with the themes of loss, grief, ageing and watching everything pass around you, nihilism and existentialism and pushing on a new generation. Similar to TDKR but, far better in execution. In short, Logan was far more mature with it's subject matter. That's just my hot take.

[@Chestnut85]

ABSOLUTE GENIUS!!!! This is exactly. EVERYTHING I ALWAYS THOUGHT WOULD MAKE THIS MOVIE BETTER it should have been 2 parts!

[@garypoisson2733]

"Hey, GOBLIN! I got somethin' for yo' ass!" is one of the greatest lines in movie history.

[@icebearplays7843]

The daleks called the doctor the on coming storm that was a thing in the beginning i thought i should add

[@kimcastro3844]

Can you do scene fights between Disney animations and their live-action remakes?

[@ScreenCrush]

Working on a Lion King one now!

[@soos8785]

You lost me when you said ‘ He needs to be Batman cause Harvey dent died so they need him’. Did you watch the fucking movie? Gordon literally said he is ‘the hero Gotham deserves, BUT NOT THE ONE IT NEEDS RIGHT NOW.’ Plus your point of the pit being a ‘silly’ scene makes no sense. And what you said about TDKR ending makes is just damn bs..

[@spencermalley10]

I legit wonder sometimes if the people who harp on TDKR have actually watched the movie.

[@dhuhabutterfly8586]

this is so accurate .. thanks for the hard work :)

[@ScreenCrush]

You're welcome 😊

[@x-rax716]

BS DKR is amazing . it is one of the best movies ever

[@ScreenCrush]

I mean, maybe one of the best superhero movies ever, but there are literally hundreds of movies that are better. And Logan is one of them.

[@x-rax716]

@@ScreenCrush It's ok. I mean its all based on opinions right.

[@RavenJay]

I am beginning to appreciate the understated wisdom of Doug.