Why Michael Jackson DROPPED Religion & EXPELLED From Jehovah's Witnesses?! | the detail.

[@riri9087]

12:05 _"I was comforted by the belief that GOD exists in my heart and in music and in beauty . . . . Not only in a building"_ what a beautiful statement ❤️

[@starblack1005]

God only dwells in the Third Heaven and in everyone who has accepted Jesus Christ as their true God and trusted in the atoning sacrifice on the Cross.

[@lethuy3019]

ĐỨC CHÚA JESU đã tái lâm với Danh Mới rồi ạ vào thời đại này phải kêu danh mới của Đức Chúa Jesu thì mới được cứu rỗi và đi lên Nước Thiên Đàng

[@yenymariselagarcia733]

Éste Caballero sabía y vivía con mucha más convicción de quién era Dios y cómo demostrar que en Él creía de una manera práctica: AMOR Y mucha razón tenía Él no es, ni habita en un edificio... Mis respetos como siempre a este Caballero Sus aportes económicos (ofrendas) por mucho tiempo fueron para el hombre (religión), pero luego llegaron a quien verdadera y Bíblicamente debían llegar: Los más necesitados. APLAUSOS DE PIE...!!!

[@sorceress1986]

I think his religious struggle is also a BIG piece of his psychological puzzle. Thank you for making this video.

[@thedetail.]

Thank you! I loved researching this topic.

[@Tech-ys9qe]

​@the detail. Hi, I LOVE LOVE LOVE Your VIDEOS, However, I'm a Witness myself and I have to say There are a lot of inaccuracies in this particular video That are not to the same standard of quality and accuracy as usual. Michael was never "Controlled " or "Forced" out of being a Jehovah's Witness, he CHOSE TO LEAVE temporarily. Jehovah's Witnesses don't try to "Control" anyone, to do so would be unscriptual Only God has the right to tell us what to do And he is the one we all ultimately answer to. Roman's 14:12 "So, then, each of us will render an account for himself to God" One thing many people do not know is that michael actually returned to being a Jehovah's Witness in his later years before his death in the 2000s That's why his cousin Wendell who was an elder was able to give a Smaller memorial ceremony before the public one And why he said he Was glad His life was Connected with Jehovah's Because it meant the resurrection hope which Michael believed in also. Michael certainly never thought they were "Controlling" or "forcing " If You notice, Michael never spoke bad about his experience of being one of Jehovah's Witnesses even in his time before he returned, In fact he only spoke positive about it in all of his interviews, Like the ones where he gave a speech of oxford university, or with Maurie povich, or Geraldo Rivera, or in the 2001 TV Guide magazine Where he talks about his current activity As being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Lastly, don't forget Michael wanted and DID( when he was alive ) raise his children as Jehovah's Witnesses. Do you really think a parent as loving and gentle as MICHAEL JACKSON who Ironically, Had arguably THE MOST Domineering, controlling, Forceful, Parent imaginable in Joe Jackson Would return to and want HIS CHILDREN to be raised in a religion if it were really as "Controlling" and "Forceful" As some people with an Innaccurate knowledge might say?

[@tajsimms8976]

@@Tech-ys9qe control is when you tell someone they’re can’t do something and if they do it they punish you by removing all your friends and family… that is control. I hope you wise up one day. I use to be like you.

[@2misschambers]

​@Tech 3000 so not control just public reproof, judicial hearings, and the possibility of disfellowship 😮

[@Tech-ys9qe]

@2misschambers\AintILib Exactly!!! We ALL have free will, It's OUR actions and OUR choices, and OUR Choices have CONSEQUENCES. YOU may not like Jehovah God's rules and having to obey them, And YOU May not Love God enough to OBEY ALL his commands (1 John 5:3 For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments; and yet his commandments are not burdensome. BUT That doesn't mean everyone else has to be rebellious and disobedient like YOU Or that they have to encourage or Applaud your bad behavior. REAL Christians obey ALL God's commands INCLUDING the difficult ones..... ( Staying away from unrepentant wrongdoers even if family members.) 1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I am writing you to stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.

[@natalieitliongfechter6073]

This explains a lot why he continued to be so humble, and charitable.

[@crazy4corbinbleux]

As a believer of Christ and huge Michael Jackson fan the biggest thing I struggle with is understanding we cannot ‘idolize’ people that are not Jesus. To me Michael is my hero and I am fascinated by so many things he did and his life but I have to separate that from the adulation I have in my spiritual life and to God.

[@Phillyhippie215]

I always wonder why Jesus gets an exception when he’s no more or less of human being. I was told not to idolize Mike growing up. But I’m still holding tight that Mike was as close to Jesus in terms of his impact overall on the world. But a Christ believer would consider this bad. That’s idolizing Jesus imo Vs seeing his true purpose. Every human has their purpose, including Jesus. He did what so many others have been brought on this earth to do. I don’t see him above anyone else. So to me Mike is right up there with him.

[@jedhawkins1769]

Didn't Jesus used to be human? What difference does it make?

[@brightbite]

What you can do is to pray for Michael's children and family and even your fellow fans. We are instructed to love one another, so the love you feel for others is a natural outpouring of the Love you are constantly partaking of via the Holy Spirit. You do not have to put "Jesus first," because He is more than first. He is *central.* And so therefore that love will be expressed towards others, just as God intended. Yes, MJ is a hero, a fascinating man and entertainer. So put your love for him to good use by praying for those he was closest to. Peace to you!

[@billyjohn7846]

There's a difference to admire an artist and idolize them. Just ask yourself if you'd choose between Michael or Jesus. your answer will determine your mindset

[@elisabethgreene2002]

​@Jed Hawkins Jesus was a human without sins. Michael was a very well raised, beautiful, warmhearted, and loving human, but of course, he made some mistakes too. He wasn't perfect (even though in our eyes he was 😊).

[@anitabislandgirl9248]

How much can one individual endure, Michael went through so much RIP to him😇

[@liliankuhn4671]

I agree & the media helped the music industry take him down w/ that false pedophilia crap. I felt really sorry for him.

[@xtra8896]

I can't imagine how torn Michael was between his Faith and his vision of creativity as an entertainer. Kerry Anderson Michael's former Director of security said,Michael always talk about God and he said Michael was the most beautiful person in the world

[@I_am_FRANCO]

هه عجبك هكذا يكون المتديّنون في بلاد الغرب، إنّما المسلمين لم يصلوا بعد إلى التفاهة التي وصل إليها المسيحيون؛ صحيح أنّ هناك بنات غير محتشمات وتدّعينَ أنّهنَّ مسلمات، لكن بالمقابل هناك نساء دين مسيحيّات والأضرب أنّ هناك كهنة شواذ ويدّعون أنّهم كهنة ويبشّرون باسم الرب يسوع

[@dcamaraman939]

Can we appreciate that he sacrificed something SO personal to him , just so he could share his gifts with us? What a Man!

[@briancole5673]

What did he sacrifice . Because this is not the life GOD want for him. This life of him after he left the Jackson 5 band, belongs to the devils is cult.. They are the ones who call him to non sence and disgrace.

[@tinkerlove5319]

Himself

[@MistyTurner-w8d]

@@dcamaraman939 he sacrificed the wrong thing. Evidently the whole world turned against him

[@annettacomello6856]

He likely did it to not bring reproach.

[@jeylieanderson6388]

​@@MistyTurner-w8dI couldn't agree more

[@danimalwonderpants2123]

He did everything they asked him to do and it still wasn’t enough. I can’t imagine the guilt he must have felt for the rest of his life.

[@americandragon8612]

That’s what religion does sometimes. He shouldn’t be pleasing the people he should be pleasing God.

[@elisabethgreene2002]

I think many people struggled with the Michaelmania situation ... because something like this never happened before ..his success in a World of Hollywood...we also know now as highly evil ..

[@MaddieSchnitzel]

This was a sect. It is not even close to Christianity. I can’t believe Katherine fell for this and then put her children through that brainwashing machine.

[@justjarod7440]

@@elisabethgreene2002 so there weren’t mega famous people before Thriller?

[@domarq]

@@justjarod7440 Your very question reveals your age. If you are not a pre-1980 baby....you'll never know the impact and ZEITGEIST (not trying to "educate' yourself on KZbin) of peak Michael Jackson. He was a super-famous, DARK-SKINNED, BLACK American male....who permeated (nearly) all ethnicities, language barriers, religious opponents, rural and urban areas....various corners of the planet....for 2 years ( AND his BLACK FAMILY ). The Jacksons were *ubiquitous* . Michael set a precedent and opened doors, before: Martin Luther King, Jr.'s holiday became official (during this time, many countries did not know about Martin Luther King). Before Oprah Winfrey emerged. Before Barack Obama. Michael was in the oval office, with Ronald Reagan. Huge press conference. Michael's TV commercials....his MJ dolls....resurgence of the J5 cartoons.....sold-out stadiums.....etc.

[@wasabiginger6993]

Thanks for this one. I have been researching lots around MJ’s live but never came across anything about his religious beliefs. It’s interesting how it effected his career over the decades. And now wonder about Prince as he was a devout Jehovah Witness.

[@qwestpichon9485]

Michael left the organization when he entered the thriller era , prince joined in his latter years , eventually becoming baptized in the early 2000s . In fact , Serena Williams was just baptized last year

[@wasabiginger6993]

@@qwestpichon9485 … my research showed that Prince joined after his first wife & loosing a child … so fairly young. She left him due to his diving so deep into this religion that did not resonate for her.

[@domarq]

Prince became a Jehovah's Witness after his slow conversion in 1999 (due to Larry Graham). How do you not know this?😐

[@gtripmusic2906]

Fun fact Selena Quintanilla was a Jehovah Witness

[@SilmeonMusic]

Oh now it makes sense on why he didn’t perform thriller on the victory tour. They said it was due to sound issues but this makes more sense for him not to do it due to religion

[@thedetail.]

Oh interesting, yes he regretted this song immediately after

[@JoshuaKingTheDream]

​@@thedetail. I don't see how when he made Ghosts years later.

[@TheUltimateOpportunist]

​@@JoshuaKingTheDream exactly, "years later". He definitely had a change of heart by then.

[@jazmorrison9030]

It was a jackson’s tour not a mj tour

[@jazmorrison9030]

@@thedetail.he did not sing thriller on a jackson’s tour because thriller was for his solo albums not a jackson’s album

[@crazy4corbinbleux]

Can you imagine Michael Jackson in the Thriller era showing up at your door preaching the gospel? Like what is going on

[@AlwayslandValley]

That would be amazing.

[@lauralarrabee7870]

Or Prince for that matter. Prince also would shock a lot of people as he went door to door

[@paulharding1972]

@@lauralarrabee7870 yes there were a lot of similarities between prince and michael.

[@handsome-brute2666]

He did HERE!..in the suburbs of Birmingham,Al..during their 84 Victory tour rehearsals

[@crazy4corbinbleux]

@@handsome-brute2666 woah! Share your story

[@BulgakovaMarina26.01]

From an interview with Michael Jackson: "It is very important to understand the power of MUSIC. Wherever you are, music affects your actions, how you treat others. I sincerely believe that God chooses people to fulfill a certain destiny, as Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Muhammad Ali and Martin were chosen Luther King And their mission is to fulfill that destiny I think I'm just getting started on my real mission for which I came here I'm very happy to be the instrument that MUSIC flows from... Deep down I feel that the world, in which we live is in fact - a huge, majestic, colossal symphony orchestra"

[@thedetail.]

Great quote!

[@Olly_2024_]

He left, he didn’t technically get expelled.

[@jazmorrison9030]

Your right

[@jabjab4434]

But would we have clicked 🤔

[@ookipuki]

@@jabjab4434 mj fans yes

[@A_Muzik]

@@jabjab4434 Yes

[@katemaloney4296]

Had he not left, they were going to expell and excommunicate him; Michael just saved them the paperwork.

[@A_Muzik]

Leaving a cult is like leaving a narcissist: you’re better off without them. It hurts like hell for a while, but eventually you realize you’re better off without them.

[@aldairtomas4371]

They're not a cult.

[@jazmorrison9030]

Was a church

[@taureanmoon]

This dude

[@A_Muzik]

@@aldairtomas4371 That’s not what the defectors say.

[@Ozzmosisf35]

No more a cult than the catholic church, allowing for abuse and sex crimes against children. They're the real evil.

[@Dishanclauzr]

As a christian ✝️ I can say that you don't need to be member of any association or stuff....believe in Jesus...because he is the way......Don't listen to people even if they are considered holy, listen only to God..Read the bible...Because people will change things according to their wish and force you to follow that. Jesus himself said that In the Bible...R.I.P Michael Joseph Jackson

[@exysness]

I agree fully. Praise Jesus, and God bless you and those who read this.

[@xonanimations8075]

Jesus is king

[@MaddieSchnitzel]

Well, just remember that you must keep the sabbath, break bread and receieve it as the body of Christ, be baptized and so on. Btw, in the Acts of the Apostles you can see that the Church of Christ is institutionalized headed by Peter and James sending apostles to spread the Gospel. They also had fixed ceremonies which have been kept to this day in the Orthodox and Catholic Churches. Jesus also said to His disciples "take the holy spirit. He will teach you everything". Jesus also said that He didnt teach His students everything, only what they needed to know for the time being. Thats why He sent the Holy Spirit who is supposed to lead us and teach us everything. Which means the Bible is not enough and we were given the holy spirit to be able to learn more. Nevertheless we have to keep an eye out for false prophets.

[@tiamarrow6366]

I agree, although whenever people mention the Bible that’s where they lose me, because the Bible has been known to be incredibly false, inaccurate, and doesn’t align with the believes of today’s society which a majority of Americans aren’t even religious even if they believe in God.

[@exysness]

@@tiamarrow6366 it's a good thing it doesn't align with the views of majority girl, our dumbed down society believes men can get pregnant and that a bandana over nostrils stops viruses. Majority of people are not very smart and riddled with sin, no wonder they don't align with the Bible - think about Sodom and Gomorrah, majority was raping one another in the booty - do you think the Bible should've conformed to that and recommend it as a way to live? Come on lovely girl. I find your comment interesting in a sense that you come across as rebellious. The Bible is the way to go, it changed my life from a hot mess to a head screwed on to my neck firmly. Praise the Lord.

[@CloutMoney]

Mike had a pure heart .. period that cant be measured by any religion💯

[@ziky2967]

He didn't drop religion they dropped him. He continued to be a man of God throughout his life

[@AGamingAlpha]

They didn’t actually “dropped him” they just didn’t let him talk to other people in the church to not influence them. He was still allowed to go there just not socialize and if he made progress he would of been welcomed back

[@Aquaboogie68]

​@@AGamingAlphaMichael Jackson could still associate with the Witnesses. He was not baptized!

[@AGamingAlpha]

He was baptized even according to his mother, the Witnesses would't punish him if he wasn't@@Aquaboogie68

[@Aivottaja]

He was a nosameerF. You can't be a man of God if you're an FM. Can't serve two masters.

[@Aquaboogie68]

@@Aivottaja What are you saying?

[@ShaunTheNavigator]

Michael left on his own. And I'm GLAD he did. Religions have a tendency to try to control your entire life. It's the epitome of "group think."

[@LookingGlass24]

Not all religions. True Christianity certainly doesn’t. Jehovah’s Witness is a cult and not considered the same as “Christian” by true followers of Christ.

[@jimmymelendez1836]

But what about the Jehovah's Witness? They were controlling on everything he did.

[@manuela-6998]

Brutta settaaaa

[@stefgirl101]

Jehovah witnesses are completely different. You have the choice to serve Jehovah the way he ask of us, which is through the bible or not at all. Any other religion would have accepted Mike to do as he pleased because of his fame. Most other churches would have let Mike bend the rules because of all of his money and fame. But not the Jehovah's witnesses. A true witness all served God the way he ask, no matter who you are. No man is above God, this is why Mike felt so guilty. It was a hard choice he had to make. Mike problems started as soon as he made his decision.

[@ShaunTheNavigator]

@@stefgirl101 but cover up all of the pedophilia, right? You better do your research...

[@tylergoodman3560]

It's a real shame that they tried to control him like that. I'm a Christian, and I have my own struggles with my walk with God; but you need to be joyful and enjoy the things God created. I could never get behind the Jehovas' Witness thing because I've celebrated birthdays and Christmas forever. Mj should not have been ridiculed or shunned for using God's talents for good, and I feel bad that he lived with that guilt for most of his life just because he didn't live the way they think he should have. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop.

[@caseyfalconer7347]

I’m not religious but I respect all peoples beliefs and faiths even if I don’t agree with them. It was a shame that Michael had to leave something he respected because of certain beliefs but religion as much as it can be a wonderful positive for a lot of humans can also be negative in terms of what is allowed to enjoy a happy life if you don’t fit into some strict rules.

[@VoltComet]

i aggre with you and im one too btw anyway your right it was wrong for them to control him like geez calm down man btw hope your having a good day

[@tylergoodman3560]

@@VoltComet I am. Thanks for asking. God bless 🙌

[@VoltComet]

@@tylergoodman3560 np

[@abdulaliakbar1175]

I invite you to Islam. Become a Muslim

[@sylviek9175]

Congratulations on this video highlighting an aspect of MJ's upbringing not widely known to the general public. This video affirms my respect for Michael Jackson who ultimately never got sidetracked by exclusionary practices and mentalities formed by man-made preachings but obviously respected people of all religions and faiths and offered his music and artistry as the ultimate gift to humanity.

[@TheAngelskye66]

Don't know why I'm just coming across this now but I'm pleased that I have,Michael never left religion,the witnesses pushed him away.Michael kept his faith in God through out his life,he knew from where his strength came and spoke of it.He knew his talent was a gift and he always remained humble,thankful and gracious..Thank you for this insightful view of our beautiful Michael.

[@teddrickjohnson3580]

Wow... as a lifelong MJ fan I never knew he gave so much to his faith and was rejected, He was truly a man that never had peace so how could he the adults around him, he loved children because they love with 0 judgements and as a loving husband with kids 2 kids I can tell U that kids don't judge they love, I was so happy when he had children someone who wouldn't judge him...R. I.P MJ🙏📀💔

[@thedetail.]

Thank you, always learning new things about MJ which is amazing

[@qwestpichon9485]

No he wasn’t rejected , when he entered the thriller era , he denounced them . Also , he gave his mom a over the top birthday party and which they do not celebrate birthdays .

[@thedetail.]

Thats not quite right but anyway

[@djoetma]

@@thedetail. Do you think you can find someone who can say something about how and why his mother was still allowed to talk to him? Could be an educational video about JW's as well next to MJ's experience. Maybe you could even get Stuckmann to talk about it with you, who used to be an MJ fan (not sure if he still is). Btw, sorry about the flack you got for making that one video. That was BS, especially the guy who made a whole video about it, basically saying what you are and aren't allowed to make. I hope you understand that once you have traction, people can be like this sometimes. I don't like the content of all of your videos either, but that's fine. I think it's great that you are out there running this channel making great content that a lot of people like watching. I would even say that it's a positive thing when you are able to get so much traction that people go out of their way making a point about you.

[@Tech-ys9qe]

Dear Friend he was never "Rejected" As much as I normally love and applaud these videos there were VERY many, many, Understandable inaccuracies when came to the information being espoused. Michael was never "Controlled " or "Forced" out of being a Jehovah's Witness, he CHOSE TO LEAVE temporarily. Jehovah's Witnesses don't try to "Control" anyone, to do so would be unscriptual Only God has the right to tell us what to do And he is the one we all ultimately answer to. Roman's 14:12 "So, then, each of us will render an account for himself to God" One thing many people do not know is that michael actually returned to being a Jehovah's Witness in his later years before his death in the 2000s That's why his cousin Wendell who was an elder was able to give a Smaller memorial ceremony before the public one And why he said he Was glad His life was Connected with Jehovah's Because it meant the resurrection hope which Michael believed in also. Michael certainly never thought they were "Controlling" or "forcing " If You notice, Michael never spoke bad about his experience of being one of Jehovah's Witnesses even in his time before he returned, In fact he only spoke positive about it in all of his interviews, Like the ones where he gave a speech of oxford university, or with Maurie povich, or Geraldo Rivera, or in the 2001 TV Guide magazine Where he talks about his current activity As being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Lastly, don't forget Michael wanted and DID( when he was alive ) raise his children as Jehovah's Witnesses. Do you really think a parent as loving and gentle as MICHAEL JACKSON who Ironically, Had arguably THE MOST Domineering, controlling, Forceful, Parent imaginable in Joe Jackson Would return to and want HIS CHILDREN to be raised in a religion if it were really as "Controlling" and "Forceful" As some people with an Innaccurate knowledge might say?

[@johnlucas1543]

YES! Thedetail getting into that nitty-gritty. Michael's spiritual beliefs underpin his message & legacy to the world. But there was ALWAYS a conflict between Michael Jackson the Superstar & Michael Jackson the Devout. I'm honestly surprised that the Jackson 5 wasn't shut down from the outset by the Jehovah's Witnesses. That circle would NEVER be squared & after Thriller something was gonna have to give. But his Jehovah's Witness upbringing never left him even if he studied other belief systems & incorporated them into his own. This is probably why he moved like moved as a Superstar. His Entertainment platform WAS his Ministry. The Duality of Michael Jackson in all kinds of ways including this one between Showbiz & Church is why he is profound of an artist & a human being. It's part of what makes him so endlessly fascinating.

[@caseyfalconer7347]

The one thing about Michael that sometimes isn’t remembered is that once you strip away what made him famous he was just another human being like all of us in this world. We all have our flaws like he did but I believe his heart was in the right place.

[@Yixin-fe6wp]

MJ可能違背了世俗定義的教義，但我不認為他違背了上帝的教義。他利用上帝賦予他的天賦所獲得的影響力，盡其所能的想要改變世界，使其變得更美好，在實踐上帝的教義上，我認為他比任何人都做的更好了。

[@Nostalgicus]

MJ , the man who achieved a worldwide icon status without even using a single phone or laptop and still got greater than KZbin by far ..😂

[@JoshuaKingTheDream]

Damn imagine the people who didn't know it was MJ in disguise coming to their door lol

[@ConsciousQueen123]

31 seconds in you're showing footage of Dr. Walter Martin. He was not a Jehovah Witness elder. He was a Baptist theologian and scholar. May he RIP 🙏

[@don8244]

Imagine you're just chilling at home and out of nowhere Michael Jackson just knocks on your door 😳

[@natashamcfarlane7727]

😂😂😂😂hi I'm here to tell you about God's kingdom, we pray for in the Our Father prayer.... let your kingdom come. Do you know what is that kingdom you're praying for??? Me Vaint😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤

[@НазгульЖумабекова-л2н]

Это было бы чудом ,он снился мне во сне ,обнял меня и взял ребенка ,каторую я нашла где то этого ребенка и закричала Майклу .Майкл это твой ребенок! А он сразу же посмотрел на мою сторону и прибежал ,и говорит да это мой малыш ,и обнял нас с молышом а я его сразу же поцеловала ,он взял ребенка нодел носки на него и они ушли ,а я смотрела на них и очень радовалась .Надеюсь все это к лучшему .очень хочу чтоб он был живым ,😢я скучаю по нему и сильно люблю.

[@precioussoulmj07]

​@@НазгульЖумабекова-л2нyou're obsessed dude

[@brittanyguyton3987]

What MJ was doing was harmless. His music and music videos were never negative or promoting the wrong things.

[@darylallmanful]

Being an entertainer is a sin as a JW. The amount of guilt he must of felt.

[@Popuste]

@@darylallmanful Ser um ARTISTA não é um pecado para as Testemunhas de Jeová, o que é errado são as consequências que podem vir com a fama. Assim como disse no vídeo, é praticamente impossível conciliar a vida de uma estrela internacional, com sua vida espiritual

[@MsTrueTy]

​@@darylallmanfulIt's not a sin to be an entertainer. Michael was doing both for years. The problems came after thriller. Where people began to worship Michael literally like a god. And also the zombie music video. He did get talk to but I believe Michael left. You can't get expelled. Dis fellowship is you can't do field service if you aren't in Harmony with what you are preaching. Michael could got the privileges back if he wanted to. He just felt it better to leave. I believe Michael always kept the same belief. You see it with his love for the animals, his charity work and also making his house a paradise on earth. All things the witnesses preach about the world being at peace one day. I do believe its hard to be an artist and a jw because we wanna express fully without limit. And jw is a narrow path and a hard one to take.

[@arunb0i616]

@@darylallmanful Idk where u heard that from but its not. If ur however portraiting violence or anything against the bible that is a sin

[@paraguaydreams8115]

20 Woe to those who say that good is bad and bad is good, Those who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, Those who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5,20)

[@DianePantig]

As a jw parent back in the80s and 90s I was told not to encourage my children to pursue higher education.They also were encouraged not to join the band and chorus. Joining school sports was discouraged. This religion squashes childrens abilities and talents and makes them feel guilty.This is the battle poor Micheal had to deal with!Best thing I ever did for my children was to get them out of this horrible cult.

[@Pedr4m]

I'm not a Jehovah's Witness, but I wouldn't say that saving oneself for marriage is overly puritanical as you put it in the video. That principle is a part of the religious beliefs of a significant part of the world's population.

[@Domvgeshe]

Это по человечески правильно. Для себя самого.

[@rucianapollard7098]

Thanks for recognizing the truth of God's Word. We live in a world where morals are nearly non-existent. Sex before marriage is a common way of life in society. But imagine if we lived by that Bible law. There would be no unwanted pregnancies and no abortions. There would not be any sexually transmitted diseases. Sex would would never be relegated to one night stands or adultery or pornography. Our society would be healthier

[@AlwayslandValley]

I agree with you. I held out until age 22 and was hoping to save it for marriage but that didn't happen. What did happen was one major mistake after another. It's a beautiful thing if you can wait til marriage.

[@MaddieSchnitzel]

And it is simply common sense. Not just religion.

[@emeyeare]

@@MaddieSchnitzelwell no, religion is where we get the idea of right and wrong…not to say religion hasn’t been watered by men oozing of all the 7 deadly sins

[@MrDaRiAn21]

Let’s face it, it will never be enough up to their high standards for him. He tried to do the right thing only to be criticized

[@sincha2u]

What was the right thing 🤔 😕

[@sinefa]

Thank you once again for your hard work that you put into the video. I really value it. You always find very interesting issues that had never been themed before. It’s once again well researched and exciting. Keep going! In spite of these criticism some videos before. Your work is incredible 🙏🏼

[@thedetail.]

Thank you very much! Loved creating this video

[@michaelforthriller]

this is one aspect of MJ's life that almost never gets talked about, a lot of this info i didn't even know and i consider myself a HUGE fan, been one for over 20 years!! curious how they will handle this in the upcoming Biopic.

[@thedetail.]

I’m sure it wont be mentioned much

[@AntoineBandele]

Great video, Detail.

[@thedetail.]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it

[@duranleonette]

Such a well put together video!!!

[@SuperGlotta]

You relationship with JEHOVA is more important than any human religion

[@MJ_girlFan]

❤️

[@dimpleface2163]

LOL...People were so envious of this man's life...his genius....still can't stop talking about him....and NEVER will stop talking about him. He was the BEST! Whatever happened to DIO? LOL

[@haintedhouse2990]

seriously? no way was I or anybody I know envious of this guy. the human condition is not wired to handle the levels of idolatry heaped onto this guy by delusional moonwalkers.

[@briancole5673]

It is because they know who he is..

[@sincha2u]

​@@briancole5673 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@liliankuhn4671]

Billy Jean (not the woman's real name) is about a woman who accused Jackson of fathering her child. He's singing about court & that it's not his child, etc. This was factual in his life. It's a great song & hopefully it taught youngsters to have morals.

[@briancole5673]

But you cannot blame the woman. The white especially want to give MJ there own children too. The fake ones that he bought whose father are now telling the world that they are his children which one is better... They rubbish his life because Satan and his followers are the cause of his faill life. . They make sure they possess him with a mad spirit before he disappear . And inside of him, he is not mad . Even the children they told him to pay for, are plant there by the cult in his life for there mission together with the white children.

[@TheTraceyDeniseShow]

Yes….it was his father’s child with Mickey Howard the singer

[@Johannapal]

Poor Michael that broke my heart when he said he would got to the bathroom and cry after he opened the Christmas gift’s with his kids this cult is so damaging to people!

[@sameoldlove55]

Those religious people were too narrow minded. I’m so sorry that Michael had to put up with their nonsense.

[@marianvantol4989]

As an ex JW in Europe, I always feel sorry for him. I know his struggle we all have

[@starrinight6114]

as a Christian I pray that he went to Heaven

[@jimmymelendez1836]

I'm sure Michael Jackson's in heaven. I have no doubt about him being in heaven.

[@hay_Z2021]

He is! He left jw faith and became a christian ❤

[@brickMade94]

His reasons for leaving Jehova’s Witness are the same reason why I left the church “Christianity”. But I always tell people “Your relationship with God is personal. It’s between you and your creator, and that is the most sacred.” I believe that God involves two, Man and Woman (God as Father and Shekinah Glory as Mother, spirit), Just my 5 cents.

[@AlwayslandValley]

Great video. This is actually so sad.

[@thedetail.]

Thank you, its one of my favourites

[@michaelstraughn6625]

Great informative piece. Thank you. R.I.P. MJ 🌹

[@thedetail.]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@christineblaszczyk1602]

And we're still smiling just listening to your music. You gave us joy though God and the Holy Spirit.

[@elagabalusrex390]

He didn't like other people telling him what to do or how to live - whether it was his father or his pastor. In the end, he banished both from his life. He was a VERY independent minded person.

[@dassolosyndikat5113]

He was a chosen one chosen by God and chosen ones dont like to be told what to do cuz theyre one with God they dont need no one when God is there for them.

[@НазгульЖумабекова-л2н]

​@dasда solosyndikat5113 да я согласна с вами,тем более Майкл был очень даже выносливым ,он всегда терпел и прощал все ,и ни кому из этих нелюдей каторые обвиняли его не говорил ни единого плохого слова.

[@charlottebennett7244]

​@@dassolosyndikat5113 I do believe that he needed someone to love him for him... so, so thankful for his kids.

[@briancole5673]

All MJ is life since he was a kid to the time he left the Jackson 5 was control by the devil. Satan and his followers knew who MJ is since he was born. That is why they took him to destroy him but they cannot. With all what they did to his body ,they plan a case for him with the devil , bankrupt him, and give him a fake life style to buy white sperm to get white children and fake wives around him which is all the devils is plan for his life. There is nothing good the devil can do in any humans is life, that will turn to be good. There is no goodness in Satan and his followers.

[@LAWoman323213]

As a former JW, this video is accurate for the most part. Good job!

[@thedetail.]

Thank you! Very interesting to research

[@carolynhowell9768]

No it was not accurate. Where is the respect? Kingdom Hall is not a church.

[@thedetail.]

I referred to the Kingdom Hall many times in this video

[@starrr5165]

This video was so deep good deep dive ❤

[@LorenzoLlamas]

Jehovah's Witnesses see the world as Jesus saw it, alienated from God. And he taught and warned his apostles as much. Why? Because the world is under the influence and control of the Devil Satan. '' Adulteresses, {Those having immoral, sinful, idolatrous, and wicked conduct with Satan the Devil}, do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of {Jehovah} God? 1John 5:19; James 4:4, NWT. Jesus revealed who is the true ruler of this world right now. John 12:31;14:30;16:11. Michael knew this. It's one of the first truths we are taught and made aware of. All true Christians in Jesus' time formed an alliance and a spiritual fortification against the things in the world. And since Jesus had conquered the world and was victorious over it, the spoils of war were his to give to his followers, only the things necessary to live and its means of life. The rest, is preserved for destruction in the end. Micael was also torn between worshiping God and the demons. ''You cannot be drinking the cup of Jehovah and the cup of the demons; You cannot be partaking of the table of Jehovah and the table of the demons. Or are we inciting Jehovah to jealousy? We are not stronger than he is are we? 1Cor. 10:21 NWT. However, Michael has placed himself in a very unfavorable position with God. Choosing to obey and drink of the cup of the demons, and eating from the table of the demons, instead of from Gods, is a very serious offense. He chose death, we can only pray that God will forgive him and raises him in the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous John 5:28,29 ; Acts 24:15. What he did was very demonic and evil against God and the truth, deliberately sinning in such a rebellious and Satanic sacrificing of his own life to the worship of the Devil. But Jehovah God is loving and merciful toward all. His life is in the hands of God and his Son the Christ, as all of our lives are. Amen.

[@brodppetttv8243]

Exactly,,Well explained.

[@DjMakinetor]

The largest sect, numbering 1000,000,000 people, Babylon the Great, is the Catholic Church and its great IDOLS spread around the world.

[@DRAGNFLY]

We pray that Michael's soul may rest well, and that God may have mercy on him. As a Christian, I find the faith aspect of his life fascinating. While he clearly had lots of spiritual turmoil in his life, he always seemed modest and true. I hope he died with God's peace in his heart.

[@cesarame4612]

This video made me cry because I've always loved Michael Jackson and I'm a Jehovah's Witness and an artist at the same time, and I know how hard it is...and I also know that until his death he never stopped believing in his God, our God.

[@darinsmith3791]

The Thriller song and music video is what broke the camel’s back with Michael and Jehovah’s Witnesses 😳

[@fictionawsome12]

If Michael Jackson really became a Christian (and I pray he did) then that would mean none other was the Thriller album important for music as a whole but the major push for Jesus to come in and save Jesus soul

[@jazmorrison9030]

Michael loved Jesus and god

[@bp2000k]

God *

[@caraychambers4789]

Jesus is God

[@ophiliajune2128]

很高兴能看到对于MJ信仰的分析，我对此感兴趣很久了，可以再多一些吗？非常感谢！

[@thedetail.]

Thank you!

[@annamarques5575]

Criticizes his every move causing him to withdraw, only to criticize him for withdrawing. He deserved so much better than what he got. Rest in peace Michael ❤

[@hannaz4617]

It really amazes me, how people are convinced that they know the absolutely truth. There is Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, and so many other religion. We are all are spirits to go through human lives. There are country with a different belief system, different faith, religion and rituals. We all have to accept each others unique spiritual journey. Michael had his own spiritual journey. To me Michael was very religious, he followed the example of Jesus and he did so much more than any other human being. He always tried to understand other religions and was tolerant regarding other belief systems. In that sense he is my inspiration, my source of energy and someone who tried to love, help and bring peace to people, that I've never seen in another human being.

[@shirlandsealy3506]

He left the religion to avoid conflict, but he never left the teachings. Earth song reminds me alot of their leflets that the give out. His approach to life, never cursing,always being polite. This videos though sexy always repected the female protagonists.

[@autumn7599]

Poor Michael,he was haresed from his childhood but he always choose the right way. Even tho I am a Michael fan I must say I don't like thriller and I think that,that video brought to him besides fame and imense success a lot of pain and struggle but I think those elders were to harsh on him,just because he sit on the bed they made such a big deal. In today's days they make videos with alcohol and dirty images and no one is expelled from nowhere. I admire at Michael that he always kept his faith in Jessus and GOD and he always wanted to help and do all he could to make people's lives better and taking care of his soul was very important for him and that should be important for all of us. This is a sensitive subject and it would be so much to speak about.

[@Linven1]

That's a piece of another heartbreaking information about Michael's not easy life.. It feels so wrong and sad.. I do believe in God, but all these "religious stuff" made suffer so many innocent and talented people from the very beginning of our world... This video helped me to better understand sadness in his eyes. Thank you for sharing some more details 🥺

[@johnpacino007]

All went wrong for both Michael Jackson & Elvis Presley. Two highly gifted individuals, in the arts of music. With a heavy leaning, Christian upbringing. Destroyed by the industry, Hollyweird lifestyles.

[@haintedhouse2990]

Elvis and MJ were both addicts and their addiction killed them. as a recovering addict i know that addiction doesn't discriminate weather it's MJ, Elvis or Joe Blow.

[@cpvm0]

This was pretty interesting, I didn't know much of this.

[@thedetail.]

Same here, loved researching this topic

[@greeshmapradeep715]

Nice videos great work ❤❤❤

[@thedetail.]

Thanks 😁

[@hansolis1689]

Me as a former member of Jehovah's Witness organization, I can totally relate with Michael in this case. I still pray to Jehovah God each day and only come to the Memorial of Christ. I'm currently participating in the school band, which is something I would be prohibited from, though I didn't recieve much pressure since I was still in middle school, though I was told to be careful. When it comes to holidays, I treat it like it's a normal day just like what Michael considers about holidays. Especially in our local Winter Concert performances, there may be Christmas content in a piece but I don't really label it Christmas, but rather a work of art. Just like I do in all holiday music, despite what it really intends to glorify. When it comes to patriotic situations, like performing the Star-Spangled Banner in Friday Night Football games, I still play not through dedication to it's message, but as a catchy, fun and enjoyable piece of music to play. In Birthday celebrations, I would most likely go only because it's a great time to spend with friends and have fun playing games and everything. I never wish anyone a happy birthday because that's something you should be proud of everyday. The same with Mother's/Father's Day because you should always honor your parents everyday. My whole point is that I am basically still a Jehovah's Witness in a more personal way, as a devoted Christian, without the pressure of others trying to tell me how to serve God.

[@ТатьянаАзарова-у3г]

Главное быть с Иеговой, это самое главное, Майкл это понимал, и я думаю, что он ощущал Иегову, его присутствие, я надеюсь, что Иегова простит Майкла и обязательно воскресит ) я никогда не была Свидетелем Иеговы, но с детства ходила на собрания, потому что моя мама Свидетель Иеговы! И я верю в Иегову и очень его люблю, и ценю нашу дружбу, хотя в моей жизни было многое, было и такое, что я намеренно грешила ,поступала ужасно, но когда мне было страшно, больно или плохо, я всегда обращалась к Иегове и всегда Иегова помогал и я чувствовала его! Сейчас я с Иеговой и стараюсь жить по его заповедям

[@raymondperez1131]

Why a memorial for Jesus Christ.? Memorials are for the dead,Jesus alive and well..God is not dead..He is eternal,he doesn't die...

[@quwaran.7264]

@raymondperez1131 "Why a memorial for Jesus Christ"? Ummmm...did you ever read the Bible for yourself??? That is literally the only occasion Jesus Christ instituted while on earth. He instructed all of his followers, "keep doing this [passover of wine and unleavened bread] in remembrance of me" --Luke 22:19 Jesus NEVER mentioned "Christmas"/his supposed "birthday" to his followers. So if you don't take part in Jesus's Memorial, how can you be a follower of him? Yes, we know Jesus is alive in heaven now, but memorial = "something, especially a structure, established to remind people of a person or event" LOL....

[@akwasitwumasi702]

​@@raymondperez1131Luke 22:19-20. Jesus said to His followers, keep doing this in remembrance of me.

[@raymondperez1131]

@@hansolis1689 yes I understand your comment and do respect your beliefs,like u said you participate half way through the joy of holidays birthdays mother's Day because it fun enjoyable and great time to spend with friends,it's why most Christians non witnesses celebrate them..I guarantee christians do not celebrate holidays b days etc to deliberately go against God's word..it's fun it's catchy like u say etc,..They are all man made so citizens can have fun with friends and get together with mom at least once a year to truly honor her,have you honored your mother today?.. probably not,mother's Day is for people that don't ordinarily honor mother like we should for whatever reason..

[@Ikalabaghiara-187]

Very good video👏👏… I always wanted to know about Michael’s religious and spiritual path As I am on my own spiritual journey, the timing of this video is perfect

[@thedetail.]

Thank you, I want to do another video exploring his religious leanings post leaving JW as well

[@jeancristaldi8762]

@@thedetail. I hope that you do. He wrote about some of his religious beliefs in his book "Dancing the Dream". Great video.

[@bethel4348]

@@thedetail. I hope you do. But please stay neutral even if you don't like religion, just report without trying to make it seem that religion is bad as you did in the first minutes here. But I learned a lot from this video about MJ, so thank you, I didn't know the details about how he left jehovah witness.

[@silentmozart]

How tf you kick someone out of a religion you didn’t create nor have control over? 😂 And people wonder why most people HATE religious people. It’s all fake practices and judgmental people. How you tell him choose himself or the religion and gaslight him after he chose the route God blessed him with? What type of foolery 😭 It seems their practices worshipped, studied and judged him more than anybody else outside of Jehovah Witness. That’s exactly why they get doors slammed in their face. It’s karma lol

[@Мир-г3о]

👋

[@sameoldlove55]

Exactly

[@misterjohnny652]

There's a saying that 'You can never serve two masters at the same time.' This will sum up everything.

[@MJ_girlFan]

I am a Jehovah's Witness and I am 13 years old. I love Michael but I don't idolize him. He has never been disfellowshipped, in fact he has never been baptized. But he believed in Jehovah, he said so (I think it was an interview) in 2007. There were times in his life when he distanced himself more however in his later years he had started going to the gatherings again and had brought his children as well. If he was truly disfellowshipped, Katherine should have kept his distance, but he was not. I am happy to be a Jehovah's Witness and I have nothing against other religions. In fact none of us have anything against other religions. I really hope to see Michael in the New World.

[@DARK_HADOO]

same bruv

[@BUDOKAIultimate3]

Man....when I think I know everything about MJ, I find out even more stuff that just puts his life in perspective even more! Wow. This is why I get upset when people talk sh💩 about Michael. The average person really has NO IDEA what trauma this man has gone through at such a young impressionable age. It was too much for his mind. And he really didn't know how to handle it...but he handled it better than most would have. Others woulda "self deleted" as they say.

[@Oghosa_Praise]

I'm really proud that I'm a Christian unlike Jehovahs witness nothing like celebration, I'm not condemming the religion I'm just expressing my opinion and I'm glad that Michael jackson didn't backslide and also became a Christian

[@hay_Z2021]

Yes! I'm so glad too! We are free in christ! And im glad he found christ when left the jw faith ❤

[@preciousmark1914]

Micheal had love for Jehovah God and wanted to pls him but he didn't know that just as Jesus said, no one can serve two masters. You can't worship God well and still remain a super star. There are things you will end up doing that's against God's will.

[@wandarichmond7643]

You are 100% Correct! Thank You for saying it so Beautifully!❤

[@Sunsosweetandnice]

There were so many restrictions, Michael was a very successful, highly talented and blessed man, but who was in his corner, to guide him and show him the right way?

[@saintkevinofficial]

W Video👍🏾 the quality of this channel is admirable.

[@thedetail.]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@MissJackieBrown1]

Went thru this same stuff when I pursued music when I was younger. So similar. WHo is good enough?

[@dpeon242]

I was raised in this religion and I was always surprised that Katherine and Rebbie were still allowed to still speak and associate with Michael. Usually when you ‘disassociate’ you are treated the same as if you were ‘disfellowshipped’ I.e. shunned, no communication whatsoever! Which is why people call it a cult (something I agree with).Thank God MJ, The Jackson 5 and Janet had Joseph, and didn’t listen to the elders, imagine if they did. Religious indoctrination makes you to ignore your intuition and abandon critical thought through fear, in their case Armageddon.

[@BruceLeeR1-2103]

Preach.

[@Dishanclauzr]

I'm a christian ✝️....I can definitely say not to follow people or organizations like JW...God didn't tell us to follow them...God told us to follow Him & His teachings....no human has the right to expell you from being a Christian..God Bless You...have a nice day

[@jay-tc7we]

Amen fr though Jehovah witness faith is a cult. God did not come to teach religon like the man madd cults of mormanisim etc..

[@ClaudioAraya]

Eugh... You call yourself a Christian? Did you know that the rule of disfellowship is more than 2.000 years old? This was already applied in the early Christian congregations when the apostles were still alive. This is not something the JW invented. They just follow the early example to keep the Christian congregation clean, an example that other churches should follow.

[@jay-tc7we]

@@ClaudioAraya aok right thats something PEOPLE established. Rules THEY made not rules God made you would never find a verse in the bible like that. Unless its a verse taken out of context I suppose

[@Dishanclauzr]

@@ClaudioAraya Then the congregations should focus on bringing people to Christ other than expelling them...If someone goes in the wrong way, we should guide them to the right way...that's what a true Christian means

[@ClaudioAraya]

@@Dishanclauzr Expelling someone is the very, very, very last option used. That is when someone committed a serious sin and most of all is not repentant. So yes, I agree, we should keep people in the congregations, but living as Christians with the high moral standards from God. If you don't want to commit to that then what is the use to be part of a Christian congregation? Don't you agree?

[@nesoldier74]

Off topic but you’re the only person I’ve ever heard pronounce Maureen’s (Rebbie) name as “Rea-bee” The Jackson’s and fans have always said “Ree-bee.”

[@crazy4corbinbleux]

I noticed that too it was off

[@beamertoy]

People get the wrong impression of Jehovahs Witnesses. Once raised into this atmosphere of devout Christians, it stays with you thru out your life. No false idols, chanting, or evangelist dramatization. Just a deep understanding of what's written in the Bible and a more humble approach to it's teachings. I truly wish more people understood them.

[@PRC5]

REAL

[@Aquaboogie68]

Very true ! JWs are grossly misunderstood

[@tajsimms8976]

But the teachings are false, and it’s not a humble approach it’s control

[@Aquaboogie68]

@@tajsimms8976 Example?

[@Kabkabmbujimayi]

Once again amazing video

[@thedetail.]

Thank you!

[@charisseclaireluna7605]

Whatever he is. I love him. 😍

[@erenyeeagah204]

in 2005 he said he still believed in jehovah

[@mukediva84]

I hope to see him in the new world. Jehovah can read hearts and he is merciful

[@MJ_girlFan]

Same!

[@kathyedmonds7122]

This is very true! He had hard life..Mama Jacksom is a good mother to her children. Much love Mama JACKSON ❤

[@natashamcfarlane7727]

She tired but was also conflicted. You cannot suave for two Masters. You can not slave for God and for riches

[@pamelakampschmidt8597]

He is better off leaving and finding his own way. He was always being judged as a child and a man

[@yohannesolliverre2121]

Unfortunately his own way was very problematic too. Even without religion he still needed guidance

[@paulettechatman4604]

Michael never abandon Jehovah's witness ,he still study and attended meeting. He just publicly did not want his mother who is a loyal witness,way before Jackson 5 . To be throw under the bus and as a entertainer and famous he distant himself ,as not to cause personal conflict. Yet he never ever abandon his beliefs and still called on Jehovah . Remember 911 ,he was in N.Y.C. doing that time and he thought "Jehovah's day" had arrived the start. He was still studying never gave up ,so as I said you wrong. Ppl like me who knew Michael personal ,can easily disputes lies and false rumors. I used to bring Michael books to study .😊

[@mukediva84]

Oh dear it's so comforting to hear that. He really loved Jehovah, I hope to see him in the new world. 😊

[@mukediva84]

What was he like. And what would he say about the literature you would bring him 😍

[@mukediva84]

Paulette do tell me please 🤩

[@La-wr5dn]

​@mukediva84 I know that you didn't ask me, but you're sounding as if you revering Michael. He said/thought what any followers of Jehovah God felt. He was just an imperfect mortal just as the rest of us. Reverence is reserved for our Heavenly Father Jehovah God and our Lord and Redeemer Jesus Christ.

[@mukediva84]

@@La-wr5dn timely reminder. Yes, I am a fan of the guy maybe it is border-lining obsession 🙈 but no way close to revering. All praise and glory is reserved for our Sovereign Ruler of the universe, Jehovah. But I do take your point.

[@DanielMiller-z3j]

MICHAEL WAS TIMELESS

[@cyrillebarbey2109]

Très bonne vidéo bien faite merci 🙏

[@thedetail.]

Thank you so much! Loved researching this.

[@poplop1344]

1st of all Jesus knows my heart like everyone else's , God knows i put him 1st & sometimes i fail to do that n as im starting my day n i skipped prayer i ask him to 4give me n i go back to step #1 praying to God, having communication w him to prayer... Asking for forgiveness , asking him to watch over my family & myself , thanking him 4 what we have n don't have, cause we all need to be thankful every day, not just in Thanksgiving...praying for the loss of ppl, asking for protection n blessings, n 4 him to makes a better person...nobody can compare to him ever n he knows it , he's king of Kings n Lord of Lord...last i ask him to understand me that by being a fan of Michael Jackson, im not putting God last, n im not comparing Michael Jackson, or any other person to him in any way...this is totally a Different page its a different story, here on Earth, i know the bible says not to have idols, but it don't mean that cause i have mags, pics, shirt, records, etc of Michael Jackson, in no way does it mean i worship Michael...at least thats what i think, cause if that were the case then that means that id would've be kneeling myself in front of Michael, n asking for forgiveness of my sins , n ask him to do miracles etc, But i didn't do that...just that I ❤ Michael Jackson & his 🎶 that's all😢🙏😇💔

[@MaddieSchnitzel]

It's weird to me that Katherine left the Lutheran and Baptist churches because of some pastors' misconduct. First of all, they are sinners too. Second, you go to church for God, not for a pastor or a priest. If you go for the latter, you've never been there for God in the first place. You can always switch churches (as in buildings) if you dont like your pastor for some reason.

[@natashamcfarlane7727]

They have to set the Example as Jesús did. A Christian is a follower of christ. If a Church is not following everything Jesús did or did not do they're not Christian. This is simple maths. Jesús rebuked the Scribes and Pharasees who were the religious leaders of his day for not practicing what they preached. They killed him for it too.

[@MaddieSchnitzel]

@@natashamcfarlane7727 well, no, a christian is NOT someone who does every single thing Jesus did. It is even impossible for we are not God. To be Christian you have to realize you are not perfect and never will be thus you need Savior to sanctify you and free you from any stain. Human nature in itself is imperfect. Walking with God will heal your life and soul though, even if you will forever be an imperfect sinner. And showing this truth to others can be a better testament to God and His mercy and love in the spectators' eyes. I think it is better for people to see a flawed person being accepted and loved than to see a person who is morally higher than others. It’s easier to learn from the former. The latter isn't as motivating and as beautiful than the former. Christians are humans, not gods on earth. Please, don’t expect them to be perfect. That is not what christianity is about. The greatest sinner is welcome at Church. And that’s what's beautiful. And they can keep coming back even if they sinned day by day anew. Thank you for reading and responding.

[@caseyfalconer7347]

Religion can help people but it can brainwash aswell. I like to believe that Michael always had a good heart ❤️. As a person who is not religious your good caring heart can be your religion. That’s what I feel personally.

[@crazy4corbinbleux]

Here’s what I think. As much as I love MJ, I don’t see how he could be part of a church community like Jehovah Witness or Christian community in general when the world is treating you like Jesus. It defeats the purpose of the practice. How can he part of a community that says there is only one messiah if that person is not him and everyone around him is treating him like a god. It just doesn’t work.

[@johnlucas1543]

+crazy4corbinbleux It was impossible. No way to make it work no matter what workaround you do. That's why I wonder why the Jackson 5 was allowed to exist in the first place. But that's the difference between Dogma & Spirituality. Some follow the Letter more than they follow the Spirit. But the truth of it is Michael truly lived up to his first name. Michael = Who Is Like God? They saw God in Michael because he did his best to live a Godly life. They saw Jesus in Michael because he walked a path like Jesus. He didn't just talk the talk. He walked the walk. In truth, he was one of the best representatives of Christianity & Religion in general on the planet. His ultimate legacy is the Divine Message he embodied in his Artistry. Even Non-Religious people pattern themselves after Michael & try to live like him. And isn't that whole point in the end? That people live life in a righteous way? I myself look for Universal Truths that transcend the Dogmas of Religion. That's how you separate the wheat from the chaff on Religion & other Philosophies. Michael's platform as an Artist & Entertainer WAS his Ministry & the Witnesses didn't understand that.

[@jeancristaldi8762]

@@johnlucas1543 I absolutely agree with everything you said . So insightful and well said.

[@yohannesolliverre2121]

​@@johnlucas1543 I'm curious, what's the difference between Universal Truths and Religious Dogma?

[@johnlucas1543]

@@jeancristaldi8762 Thank you. So many people who got to know Michael said he was an Angel. Or like an Angel. There's a reason for that. His prominence was no accident. The little boy who sang ABC with his brothers was set on this path for a reason. I believe his life was designed to be an example for the world. Michael himself knew that it was never simply about mere Entertainment. He was following what he was ORDAINED to do even if the Kingdom Hall didn't approve. The Dangerous Tour was literally a Charity Event. He sweated on that stage in order to help people. It was pretty much a glorified Telethon raising money for a cause. Just like Jerry's Kids. And it's no surprise to me in hindsight that he was taken down doing such a thing with the Witchhunt. He would have inspired too many to follow his path & that would have shifted the world order. But in hindsight I even see Michael's persecution as part of the ordained plan. Not a surprise that was murdered preparing a series of concerts in a permanent takedown. Michael was there to show what was possible & him being interrupted from his full plan is supposed to inspire us to finish the work he started. He was sent here as an example for us the entire time.

[@kosta183]

How about you go change your shitty diapers first, before you open your mouth 🤣 🤣 🤣?

[@crazy4corbinbleux]

5:12 where is this footage from? Can we talk about how handsome Michael looks here next to Quincy- wow.

[@Chuck_EL]

In 1983 when thriller sold 10 million copies and epic held a celebration for him and Quincy

[@vertigoz]

This somehow remindes me of the joke of believer who asks God to save him from drowning , and after getting help from lots of people which he all refuses asked God why didn't He save him, to which He responded that he already sent boats, men... Such a tiny Congregation as Jehovah but with such egos, blinded by sheer arrogance decided to attack him instead of using to expand their faith.

[@isaaccollinsethan9361]

😭😭😭😭😭 it all sums up to the fact that he is no longer with us

[@suvette72]

Jehovah is the reader of hearts 💕 you ĥad a beautiful, loving heart.

[@mukediva84]

I hope to see him in the new world.

[@jflow08]

I love how much detail is in The Detail. Also, can you tell the voice actor it’s pronounced Ree-bie 😆

[@thedetail.]

Thank you!

[@blancacarro3330]

Excuse Me, They do Not Force You Out.....If You've committed a Sin and You choose Not To repent of Your Sins, then You get disfellowshipped ....If You choose to repent then You get Reproved. Jehovah's Witnesses Are Wonderful, Loving, Caring People....The Elders are following Gods Word the Bible....Jehovah God & Our Lord Jesus Teach Us, Reprove Us when Necessary. Please get a Free Home Bible Study With Jehovah's Witnesses 1 hour a week and Learn "The Truth That Leads To Eternal Life."

[@coachrod333]

I was a JW for most of my life. What you are saying is not always true. They give people ultimatums a lot. They did not know what to do with Jackson because they never dealt with that kind of fame. He was bigger than that entire religion and they hated that. They hassled him nonstop. They are not caring people, they only care about people who follow their agenda. They break up families and shun people who grow up and disagree with their teachings. Kids are cut off from parents, parents are cut off from their kids, and some grandparents never met their grandchildren, it's a cruel faith. People are instructed to not associate with nonbelievers, and only with the community of Witnesses, but one who leaves the Faith is suddenly cut off from the only people they know. JWs are discouraged from pursuing higher education, they settle for low-paying jobs and do not plan for the future, because they are taught the end of the world as we know it is near. They have been saying that for over a hundred years. People become old and unprepared for their senior years. Jehovah's Witness believe that their “loving” God Jehovah is going to destroy most of the humans on the planet, rewarding the Earth to Jehovah's Witnesses. If you want to ruin your relationship with your family. If you want to cut off your association with the people you love. If you want to worship a God that is like Adolf Hitler on steroids, go ahead and contact the person above for a home Bible study. Understand ahead of time that they only use their own version of the Bible, it's a version that is edited and tailored to fit their teachings, and since they change their teaching every time it's proven wrong, they revise their Bible every few decades. All facts my friends. The suicide rate of the people who have been cut off from their families is astronomical, the cases of depression are out of control, and love is not treating family as if they are dead. This is a region led by men who have zero connection with a higher source, their mission is to control people, to fulfill their agenda. On top of all of that, they have a horrible record of dealing with pedophiles. They rarely turn them in and try to handle it “in-house” to not soil their reputation (or bring reproach on Jehovah) hence pedophiles offend over and over and over again. Members have no idea how much of their donated money goes to paying off lawsuits and hush money. If you are a fan of controlling cults, this may be for you. The definition of a cult is an organization that controls the INFORMATION its members can access, the BEHAVIOR of its members, the THOUGHTS its members can entertain, and the EMOTIONS its members express. That is a Grade-A certified, premium CULT. The root of all evil is separation and disunity. God, the real God is nothing but love and oneness. Sadly it is a religion full of very nice, yet misguided people who follow leaders who they call their Governing Body who are pure evil. ✌️🏾

[@I.MjustMe]

Sorry to wrek your statement, but I do talk from experience; Disfellowship is never freely, always by force of the elders. There is nothing lovely to it

[@wandarichmond7643]

Thank You My Sister! For Setting The Record Straight !😊

[@thelotusexperience6683]

Because he became smart and realized that a relationship with God is not about religion but about a personal relationship. Also, anyone with that kind of gift is automatically spiritual, its a gift that can only be given from above.

[@batmandestroys1978]

Michael believed in God when he was born and died believing in God! He does not need to go to any JW Church or Christian Church to believe in God, he had God always in his Heart and Soul!

[@haintedhouse2990]

strange how MJ always gave credit to God for his talent yet spent most of his career altering his God-given looks.

[@jazmorrison9030]

Well said

[@jazmorrison9030]

@@haintedhouse2990mj had Virtiligo and lupus that’s why he changed and had nose jobs but that’s it

[@haintedhouse2990]

@@jazmorrison9030 yeah sure

[@rucianapollard7098]

Michael did not believe in God when he was born, none of us did!! We didn't have developed minds to believe in anything!!