Why Michael Jackson is INNOCENT?!

Joe Rogan and Brenden Schaub talk about whether Michael Jackson was actually guilty or not.
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[@alexmarion703]

Considering a ton of the kids who accused him of it when they were kids are now as adults saying their parents literally forced them to say these horrible things about MJ so they could get money, I’d say it’s pretty obvious that MJ was at least mostly innocent.

[@shin29534]

Ur the kids are paid by the media to protect mj's reputation. i mean an old man sleeping with a children wtf is that?

[@anthonyjimenez2280]

He's a pedo

[@lilfishnet9265]

Fully innocent

[@bored_boar]

It's wild.. MJ's estate should get some compensation for all the damages done to MJ because of all those allegations.

[@jinfin221]

Sure bro lol

[@nicholasfow7167]

“I don’t want to watch that, he’s not alive to defend himself” That’s deep

[@katelynbrown98]

Idk? It's weird, Jimmy Savile, was accused and it came out to be true after he died. I think there's probably some truth in it. Idk why an person who was a child, who is now an adult, would go on to continue the lie when other people who were kids then have now came out to say they were forced to lie.

[@dickjohnson9582]

Just like the kids weren't able to defend himself.

[@hannibalburgers477]

This is why I avoid WW2 documentaries

[@annier6757]

I don't think it makes much sense though. There's many documentaries where people talk about dead people. And you can watch it and still be critical. I watched it and i still don't know if it's true. It's an interesting documentary about someone's testimony, that's all.

[@isthatokvas]

It’s not deep it’s just respectful

[@Dryer.]

Even Macaulay Culkin (the home alone kid) said that Michael never made him feel uncomfortable. Never

[@Bloooo95]

So? A rapist of adult women doesn’t rape every woman they have contact with. Predators choose their victims.

[@AL-zo4pu]

What if he was just very careful not to molest famous kids? There are other normal kids which are saying the opposite

[@Dryer.]

​@@AL-zo4pu Molesters are never patient. Predators always make a move.

[@Ayla.a7a]

@@Dryer. Uhm no lol. You can’t just speak in absolutes about things like this. Predators know what they’re doing. Many have an exact ‘type’ of child they go after and typically weigh out their vulnerability. What you said is nothing but your opinion.

[@Dryer.]

@@Ayla.a7a I'm sorry that I made it feel personal for you, but that's not what I exactly meant. when I meant "patience" I meant to say inevitable. Predators always make a move because its usually inevitable. And for almost 10 years of careful inspection, Michael had no evidence of being a creep.

[@deenp3761]

the elites framed destroyed and murdered that poor man he was the greatest singer and dancer even to this day

[@eddiecamacho6479]

Wake up

[@roksolanaprokopenko9624]

​@@eddiecamacho6479 He did

[@roksolanaprokopenko9624]

You are right, my friend

[@bairavhybrid]

@@eddiecamacho6479wdym wake up ?

[@Bloooo95]

He was an elite. WTF are you talking about?

[@johna8291]

There's people out there that sincerely love kids too.

[@Cresentmoontales]

Me for example, there’s people like this out there for real and guess wat I was accused of sexually abusing a 9months old baby 😢

[@pescuezoee]

@@Cresentmoontaleswtf thats so messed up im so sorry

[@geminisneverlie]

The fact that we even have to explain this is crazy. People really don’t love kids these days and that’s why the world is fucked up.

[@th-tl8fo]

@@geminisneverlie yeah bro fr it actually says more about them and the fact that that’s what they think and that’s where their mind is.

[@jonathanarango4610]

I swear to God we were clowning one of my friends on new years day.. hahaha.. he said hes gonna get a gf this year.. and hes gonna make sure she has a kid cause sometimes the chick bores him and he could just take the little guy to the park... hahahaha we were all faded

[@kealahau6727]

He didn t do it...follow the money...

[@jasonwallace3319]

Exactly...Mike was about to buy the Beatles Rights and other things. He was about to go from super Rich to wealthy and they couldn't have that.

[@joshvaughn7348]

Yall are naive then, Michael was know to be crazy, he dangled his own baby over pavement a couple stories in the air. And regardless the man had tons of little children at his house and also had them staying the night, he also admittedly slept in the same bed as these little kids. He was clearly sick, theres no justification for any of those thing I just stated. I do believe the guys at the top do things like you said, and have killed people off, and I'm not saying that he didnt get killed and that it was covered up with the drug overdose thing. But regardless of that, the two have no correlation, just because he might have been murdered doesnt mean he wasn't also still a sick man and doesnt mean that he didn't do what people have said he has done. Obviously not all were probably true, but the chance of it being zero of them, with everything that is known, and has been said, and the evidence against him, like kids detailing thing they would only know if they had seen it..... is literally zero.

[@vinnydurham8964]

​@@jasonwallace3319 what?

[@jasonwallace3319]

@@vinnydurham8964 they killed Michael Jackson on purpose

[@vrillionaire88]

​@@vinnydurham8964 being rich is something the wealthy control. Money is an illusion that the powerful sell the peasants. There's a huge difference in tiers of influence. The "richest" people in terms of asset ownership struggle to monetize it effectively. There are certainly families in control of hundreds of trillions of dollars of wealth, but the liquidity is difficult to manage at that level. Think of who owns countries, yeah? The families that own the land that metals and gems are mined from have a hard time monetizing the land. And because a lot of owned land is occupied by peasants, it's very difficult to utilize. That's why some monarchs hire the US to cleanse their population, because they own the land but if you start riling up the peasants, they can revolt in a French style. In fact, one of the biggest products made for monarchs was the Revolution psyop. It was funded by other Monarchs to cleanse France of a population that controlled valuable territory. Then they exported it to America during the Civil War so they could create what could be referred to as New Babylon or, as Francis Bacon wrote, the New Atlantis.

[@don8244]

They loved Michael until he bought that Beatles catalogue, so they turned on him.

[@Robert-gn7ec]

Wait what

[@ennjaychannel]

@@Robert-gn7ec Exactly all those atrocious allegations against him started when he bought and refused to sell the Beatles catalogue

[@Hizzy.Fitness]

I think it was during or after the bad era when he bought half of Sony. From the dangerous era onwards, the allegations and media bashing started happening, it’s why his album Invincible wasn’t promoted like his other albums.

[@Pixiemaniac]

Their is a clip where Michael publicly called out tommy mottola who was the ex chairman of Sony music and ex husband of Mariah carey . It was obvious Michael Jackson was getting way to big for them to control . He had the money , the fame and the talent and he was becoming a good businessman as well. Which meant Sony couldn't control him much longer and steal his money . So they destroyed him , a big star needs a big scandal to go down. And I do believe it completely destroyed his life , his legacy and his family to a point where he is still being dragged as a p*dophile

[@bajorekjon]

Maybe it was when he slept with boys

[@matcole1975]

They took advantage of this man.

[@markinglese3874]

My old man said it was a set-up. He wasn't a fan of MJ but believed he was set up.

[@carolinagonzalezs.]

Your dad was absolutely right.

[@Zamasu_EDTZ]

Most definitely a set up for sure… when all of this happening my pops said it was too

[@biggerbitcoin5126]

My mum is deaf and dumb and was an incredible judge of character, she just knew Jackson was innocent

[@Scypro]

It’s quite obvious he was setup for the people who say he is guilty yet there’s no clear evidence of him being said “guilty” is wild so we’re just gonna believe everything that is being said without evidence? Hell no we need actual proof and they haven’t given us those

[@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600]

Your dad must have known him better than the victims knew him. No? Your dad is wrong and probably a fan.

[@gyurmethlodroe1774]

That boy in Home alone...he was regular fixture in Neverland. He is all growed up now. He says Jackson is innocent.

[@matthewleisure8769]

He also said, “ when people say that we slept in the same bedroom… you have to remember that Micheal’s bedroom is the size of a regular persons house”

[@zedrhyx1788]

he become a druggie so we never know maybe he and Micheal have a consenting relationship

[@Theorbitaldog]

@@zedrhyx1788 quick question are you insane?

[@gyurmethlodroe1774]

@@zedrhyx1788 sick mind

[@matthewleisure8769]

@@zedrhyx1788 he didn’t become a druggie because Micheal Jackson diddled him when he was a kid

[@deanaburnham9571]

He went to court, tried, and cleared! Thank you Joe.

[@tmcballer2334]

Real shit

[@verbadum2298]

learn how the law works. he wasn't cleared of anything. jurors are on the record saying they knew he did it but here wasn't the high standard of evidence required by the american justice system.

[@reecehayes7340]

Paying people off isn’t being cleared learn before you speak

[@deanaburnham9571]

​@@verbadum2298❤ High Standards? That actually means something. High standards are a good thing. Jurors had to say what they said or else risk all kinds of possible danger from the angry "mob." When you tell someone to do their homework don't be so sure they haven't---just bc they disagree with you. If you knew you were innocent of an accusation, and that the fakes wanted money, wouldn't you save yourself a world of grief by paying them off? Did you know that the main accuser had been used prior to this gig, by his mother to fake injury to his arm at JC Penny so they could sue? They were frauds. What made the staff suddenly come forward? Why didn't they report supposed abuse way back when it would have helped the kids? If you couldn't trust them to do the right thing then by their own admission, why should the judge and jury find them credible current to the case etc? Your online public manners could use some work by the way. ❤God bless.

[@Bonita..186]

So was OJ....Being cleared in court means nothing....

[@mjamja1061]

He literally talked about how he loved children as in he still wishes he was a child himself. He loved how children thought & how honest they were, so much more so then adults, and that’s why he surrounded himself with kids and made a giant theme park at his home. He loved to watch children being happy, he talked about it AAALLLL the time!!!! He would never take away that innocence that literslly made him believe in humanity

[@rawdawgnit6020]

He had a super f’d up childhood so what your saying really makes sense. In a way I bet him seeing kids having a good time and just being kids healed some of that childhood trauma

[@blah-yv9cv]

Literally just look at that freak, he's not quirky he's not unique, he's a fucking weirdo and he had all of you fooled. Fucking pathetic bastards

[@darkopz]

If the things done to him are true, he may have been a child in many ways. I’m quite surprised he wasn’t sterile.

[@crab2195]

if you said this about literally anyone other than Michael Jackson you’d be considered a creep. why does anyone have an attachment and love towards children who they have no relation to? it was not his place as an adult to have friendships with children even if it it made him “sooo happy😌”. if he loved kids so much, he should’ve left it at the charities and donations. you do NOT need to invite them into your home, lovebomb them, and cross boundaries with them. i’m talking best case scenario. if you take the description you just gave and applied it to the neighborhood creep, you wouldn’t let him anywhere your kid. but because he’s Michael Jackson, it’s suddenly okay to use childhood trauma as an excuse to have inappropriate “friendships” with children.

[@lyndy101]

Dude, listen to yourself. An adult is an adult, it is unacceptable and despicable to have a child sleep in your bed in ANY capacity period. You deny because you aren't comfortable with the thought of liking music made by a child molester, how's that feel?

[@achrafbouzidi5969]

He loved children but not like that.. the high elite took advantage of that situation and broke the guy!! RIP MJ😢

[@arvynjafarzadeh2659]

Exactly the high elite were the ones who liked kids like that it’s sad what they did to micheal Jackson 😔

[@cosmicsoul8042]

This exactly, MJ was telling the truth and what was going on and the elites didn't like that. He did love children but not in an inappropriate way, so because he was spilling the truth they labeled him as ped0.

[@zedixoffical]

No. His defense was that the children got jn the bed with their own will. Not like he forced them to. Bro that's still illegal snf should be. They didn't do it on their own nichael is just a child loving dick who died from overdose.

[@anthonyjimenez2280]

Nah he's a pedo

[@achrafbouzidi5969]

@@arvynjafarzadeh2659 yeah so sad.. and they have the nerve to call his “last show” this is it😞.. he spoke to the audience but no one wanted to listen to him.. sad world😞

[@johnharrison2511]

For a lot of people their children are just pawns. Parental ego often supercedes parental care and guidance.

[@jesussilva3209]

Before I could buy my wife from parents with a fat pig and a few chickens 😂 . They would sell them/trade for resources or status

[@Yeahagreed]

​@@jesussilva3209 still happens in a lot of places lol

[@switchitup5446]

​@@jesussilva3209 Where do u live?

[@noahx.classic]

I see this happen at basketball events all the time. Parents yelling f bombs and tryna fight teenagers lol

[@AJ.614]

For real my cousin pops one out every couple of years and treats the oldest like shit bc they don’t bring people around

[@Bl913]

I always believed they lied. If your a real parent you would never accept money if your child had been abused.

[@bibadiallo3401]

Exactly my point

[@RocStarr913]

The father of the first accuser was out to extort Jackson and how he got his son’s alleged “confession” about Jackson sexually molesting him was through highly dubious means.

[@tias.6675]

He would've been beat down or worse by a real parent.

[@-alwaysinvolved-3490]

So true that is ridiculous

[@itsjustnaima]

Not just accept money but ASK and BLACKMAIL for it!! MJ NEVER offered money, they literally blackmailed and sued him for it, it’s wild.

[@tonyp1376]

Michaels final phone call is CHILLING. Dude was def snuffed out. Abused from the cradle to the grave, poor guy. RIP

[@lucascarr-og3ku]

“When you’re unsure if something’s true, ask yourself, who could make money off of this?” Edit: This obviously isn’t true 100% of the time, but I think you should always take into consideration who profits from a situation. And of course just because someone profits off of a situation doesn’t mean that they caused it, it’s just something to consider in order to get the full picture.

[@fil4648]

That's the sure way to turn a coincidence into a conspiracy. Somebody profiting from an unfortunate situation, doesn't mean they caused it. I don't think delivery drivers or toilet paper companies caused COVID just because they benefited from the situation.

[@coolyoutubename16]

​@@fil4648 that's a poor assessment. the conspiracy with covid were those who released it and profited from the vaccines. not the delivery drivers lol

[@lucascarr-og3ku]

@@fil4648 you certainly shouldn’t base your entire opinion on something off of who would profit from it, but you should certainly think about it and take it into consideration

[@methodman1566]

I always ask myself "Why do I give a shit" and then I come to the realization that the information would make zero difference to my life and cease wondering.

[@thereccher8746]

The parents of Jordan Chandler, the Safechucks, the guys who testified in the 2006 trial, the corrupt officer who bragged about evidence that the jury found insufficient in 1993, and did fuck all in the 2006 trial etc. The media who spun stories out of control. It didn't end.

[@xSixSx]

It’s sad that males are automatically seen as creeps around children. I understand why people assume but I still find it really disheartening

[@lucynatas8458]

Bcz we have a dick hanging from are body that's why we are automatically assumed as such jokes aside its bcz back in the days most mens were absolute assholes and it was mostly men committing rapes and sexual assaults on women and children but now the fields are being leveled somewhat bcz some women also started although rapes and sexual assaults are mostly done by a male in pretty much all countries that's why

[@jameshampton5659]

I mean maybe yeah but what did he honestly expect? You can’t just have sleepovers with children it’s just not at all normal. Is it wrong to assume things? Yes. Is this also extremely concerning? Yes lol

[@annier6757]

You can just have boundaries with them like for example not share a bed with them and you should be fine. It's not like MJ was accused of pedophilia as soon as he was seen interacting with a child.

[@v.k.healthlongevity9807]

Your neighbour is a man in his 50s and you find out he likes to invite over neighbourhood children to sleep in his bed and gives them wine to drink. Admitted behaviour from Michael himself. If you think this is normal you need to be locked up.

[@opiedopie]

I'm a girl and I also think it's really sad that men will automatically be labelled as creeps...but at the same time, i get scared when I see older men in public sometimes. In this society, you just can't help it 🤷‍♀️

[@hellsdethbtingr]

The parents weren’t morons. They were predators trying to take anything they could from Michael.

[@brianagarcia7415]

It’s disgusting how their parents forced them to make these disgusting allegations! When they became adults they came forward and said their parents forced them to do that. I don’t believe anything that his “maid” said about him either, I believe she made all that stuff up so she could get interviews and make money.

[@markflorida4402]

"If you haven't watched it yet, then I'm begging you, don't watch it." -Dave Chappelle

[@deangelowilliamsbeas]

When tf he say this?

[@ngarritjgumbula1316]

@@deangelowilliamsbeas it takes five seconds to search it up

[@markflorida4402]

@@deangelowilliamsbeas Watch sticks and stones by Dave. It was funny as hell when he talked about Michael Jackson

[@cortezmontanaofficial4858]

Bruh just watched stick n stones so damn good

[@Hereforthelols]

Dave has publicly supported MJ even when MJ was alive..no way dave gonna turn on MJ

[@danielbrealey2924]

The parents were all looking for a payday, that's what was going on... Even that Aaron Carter said that his parents wanted to set MJ up and get Aaron to make claims of a sexual nature, but he didn't WANT to go along with it. He couldn't understand why anyone would try and do something like that to someone who was so legitimately nice to him

[@trojantony195]

His big mistake was settling that first accusation out of court. a star like him he thought it would be better off to pay and not have his image brand dragged through the media. You can’t settle they’re always gonna come back

[@carolinagonzalezs.]

@@trojantony195 Californian justice must never let parents legally extort Michael Jackson.

[@leahartlee29]

Michael wanted to fight the allegations from Chandler's dad in court, but was going through drug addiction, and Lisa Marie Presley, his girlfriend at the time, (before she married Michael) told him to settle out of court, because he needed to get treatment for his drug addiction. That was not good advice.@@trojantony195 I loved Lisa and I know that she meant well, but he should have found a way to fight it in court. If he had, I don't think there would have been any other liars coming for a payout.

[@Nadia-lp8gr]

@@trojantony195he didnt want to but was dorced by insurance

[@BiLdoEMcLown]

Personally, I think the abuses he suffered as a child, mentally rendered MJ a perpetual child. I don't think he was sexual towards anyone at all.

[@Luisbenitez1984]

Michael Jackson did defend himself in court twice. How many different ways can Michael Jackson say he didn’t do it.

[@an.d.m.a]

He never defended himself in court. He paid out of court settlements to avoid defending himself in court and the one time he went to court, he paid his lawyers to do it for him, he did not take the stand.

[@highlightvids3876]

​@@an.d.m.a you made this up, you mixed small truths with huge lies. I don't even have the time fr

[@an.d.m.a]

@@highlightvids3876 everything I say is factual. Which parts are you claiming is not true?

[@TheVPDD]

Rumor was that Michael bought the Beatles catalogue in 1985 for 47 million and it was worth a fortune in future revenue and Michael refused to sell it to some powerful people who wanted it and understood how lucrative owning it was. When he later refused to sell, that’s when he was targeted with the most vicious media campaign a singer could ever imagine.

[@nickclark18]

Source: *trust me bro* 💀

[@jerk_berk]

@@nickclark18 it’s true though…what you believe he actually did those things to the kids because the media told you? Their source ? “Trust me bro” also…you fkn kids man I swear y’all get dumber and dumber

[@nickclark18]

​@@jerk_berk Macaulay Culkin admitted on video that Michel never touched him. Another kid admitted that it was his parents who made him accuse him, and that he actually hadn't touched him either. Stay in your lane punk.

[@anonymousunknown2919]

​@@nickclark18 no dummy you can fact check it but your lazy ass won't.

[@sooshaggy]

​@@nickclark18 well, he did own the Beatles catalog. It was a point of contention in his relationship with Paul McCartney, they both talked about it publicly. You can look this stuff up...

[@ce707f]

Michael is 100% innocent IMO. It’s fucking criminal what these people did to him.

[@kgpproductions6006]

You should watch the documentary. The way it's told makes a lot of sense. And they don't say that he raped anyone, but that he jerked of to them while they were naked. Just the whole story of the documentary makes a lot of sense.

[@timdeathly]

100% is wild you never know. People said pedo island didn't exist 10 years ago

[@isaacs.4309]

Oh really because there are legitimate court documents that his attorneys had to review that state he owned child porn

[@aaron-AJ92]

And your 100% smooth brained

[@dannymorrow6024]

​@@StripedSooner he literally never slept in the same bed as any kid lol

[@cristinaandrees2181]

I always wondered how his heart felt, how much humans hurt Michael just for the sake of money. They ruined a person that gave all he had for the people: music to perfection, dance to perfrction, shows, videos to perfections ...a legacy . I can't imagine how he felt

[@Krillzz]

It’s weird he owned a percentage of Sony and they didn’t like it so what makes you think they didn’t use propaganda to slander him even after his death

[@ThreeTinyCats]

My teacher was the sister of Ryan White. A kid who got AIDs due to infected needles at a doctors office. He got the chance to meet Michael Jackson because of this and Michael was nothing but kind and caring towards this poor kid that was ostracized because of bad circumstances. I'm not saying he's an angel but he was nothing but kind to children.

[@markw4613]

I'm now locked in an epic internal battle with the part of my brain that forms dark jokes, so thanks for that 🙈

[@marleeglenn1945]

Yes Michael spent time with him and was not scared at a time when people didn't know a lot about the disease and so they were scared! I remember seeing a video of Michael visiting Ryan, I believe it was on the news. I was a child but I remember thinking 'Michael's not afraid of this little boy at all' Mike was a very kind hearted individual who visited sick kids in the hospitals and gave away millions to charities. I do not believe that MJ would have hurt a fly let alone a small innocent child.

[@Asteri00]

Ryan White got HIV and died from AIDS due to infected blood he received from a transfusion as a hemophiliac. It wasn’t doctors using infected needles.

[@agricolaregs]

To every child? Can you attest to that?

[@awsome14619]

​@@marleeglenn1945 MJ didn’t see it as hurting them, he saw it as making love.

[@fangzea]

He was a good man. You can't change my mind.

[@bingbingproductions]

Nobody's trying to because your right

[@LL-wu5ui]

Who gives a shit about what you think lol

[@EviLLivEClan]

Confirmation bias at it's finest.

[@theocorgi2364]

It’s a toss up- he was a generous and kind man at points, but also a predator and anti-semite

[@fangzea]

@@theocorgi2364 No actual proof of predator crap, and you cant be anti-semite to people who are not semites.

[@damansbedi]

He is innocent.

[@johnrockyryan]

Like my dad said as soon as Micheal started using his power and influence to change the world for the better thats when they started coming after and used him as a scape goat while the real monsters were doing the actual depraved shit behind closed doors

[@LilSmokio420]

He just wanted to preach love around the world, sadly the world wasn't very reciprocate about it.

[@Themanhimself677]

He also loved to hide books in his locked filing cabinet lol

[@michaeljacksonsaguiltypref3600]

He was a pedophile

[@hebrew26commandmentspower55]

The FBI followwd him for 20 years lol ....and didn't find one single proof of pedophiles

[@ArthurMrgan]

Why did he have pictures in his room of several undressed babies that WEREN’T EVEN HIS? He even went as far as STEALING a Target ad of a baby, and for what, just to show how much he loves children? That man was obsessed with children. Open your eyes.

[@lyndy101]

He's the most despicable type of person possible. He hurt children which is unacceptable in any shape or form. If it was a random schmuck making minimum wage no one would give them the benefit of the doubt.

[@SirenNetwork]

If macaulay culkin says he was fine and openly defended MJ in court it's enough for me to believe him. We need to keep in mind that MJ never had a real childhood and didn't mentally grow up the same way a normal person would.

[@Gistme2023]

He's pure innocent ❤❤

[@mguap702]

100% innocent he was too pure for this world he just wanted to live a piece of the childhood he never got

[@rayhanes1347]

It was a shakedown, extortion. All the celebs have paid out millions to people they just would rather not have dealt with, innocent or not from Celine Deon, Bill Cosby to Johnny Depp. Paul Mooney said Micheal offered money to simply stop telling a joke because he was the kind of guy that would rather give his problem the money and be done with it. Micheal said settling out of court was his biggest mistake in life. FBI looked into Micheal for a decade and found nothing because there was nothing. The man was simply too kind, and it hurt him.

[@Shadynastys]

When I hear people joke about him being a pedo irl it makes me want to cry

[@rayhanes1347]

@ShadyNasty Pisses me off and I check them. When folks talk about Kobe too.

[@awsome14619]

Forsenic evidence showed MJs finger prints and the little boys fingerprints in the same page of playboy magazines next to his bed.

[@rupinderh01]

Whoopie Goldberg too paid off someone as was too much of a headache , a lot of celebs do it. Plus the chandler family took the money and ran, they should have gone ahead with the criminal charges to put him behind bars if it was true, but they didn't bother , they took the money and ran. Jordan chandlers dad killed himself a few weeks after mj passed. All the people that made allegations needed money, those that had their own money never did.

[@dylsdesktop]

@@awsome14619 The prosecutor, Tom Sneddon, falsified that evidence. If you did your research, you’d know that it was a whole thing. They threw out that evidence in court as soon as they found out Tom had the kid touch the magazines in order to leave fingerprints.

[@hhlptf]

Mj was brutally abused as a child with his father forcing him to do crazy extreme punishments for not living up to his standards and it drastically affected all of the brothers and i think with mjs sickness he was just a weird guy. He lived a difficult life by anyones standards. Idk obviously if hes innocent or not but that could explain his obsession with childhood since his was robbed from him, helping young kids' dreams come true would be an amazing feeling as even just being there for my kid is awesome and im not a super rich celebrity with a literal castle im just a regular dad

[@kat4onelove]

He's innocent. It doesn't take much research to find that out

[@richardkovacs2006]

In fact he tried to convince parents to NOT push their kids into showbiz. And if they did, he was there to help these kids have someone they can relate to. Who understands the insanity of fame. Mac Culkin always says that, for a long time MJ was his best friend whom he could talk to about all this. Because there wasn't a kid who could relate to his experience.

[@LG-cd7wr]

It always breaks my heart that Michael Jackson never got a break from media. Always wanted to take him down #MJInnocent

[@mathiussmith9119]

Because they didn’t see any wrongdoing on mj’s part they understood mike was different but not a pedo.

[@mr.mordon5366]

Michael was a good soul.

[@jaysenbustamante9926]

Fuck no he wasn’t he was a rapisy

[@jaysenbustamante9926]

Rapist

[@m.hstudioproductions6642]

I agree, he did nothing to deserve to be given such outrageous and horrendous labels.😢

[@stillusevhs71]

"Was"

[@dcontrera3632]

One thing tho is that Michael was from Gary Indiana just wanna point that out.

[@bobbydigital5236]

He was buying Sony and making big business moves. You might want to look into who profited from his death and accusations.

[@newprofilesowhat1339]

He was buying a company worth $110 billion?🤦‍♂️🤣🤡

[@UceyJuceyJey]

@@newprofilesowhat1339 You’ve never heard of shareholders, have you? 🤣🤦🏽‍♂️🤡

[@newprofilesowhat1339]

@@UceyJuceyJey, his whole net worth would have bought 0.1% of Sony shares.... that's not buying Sony ya doofus....duh

[@UceyJuceyJey]

@@newprofilesowhat1339 At the time of his death he was worth around $500 mil, Sony was losing close to $3 billion at the time and shares closed down 2.6 percent by the end of the first quarter. It wasn’t worth anywhere near $110 billion at the time, and they were actively losing *a lot* of money. Net worth doesn’t mean that’s how much that person’s made or has in their bank account; nor do you have even the slightest bit of knowledge on how shares work or how much Sony was worth in 2009 (only using that year since it was the year MJ died), so there’s really no point to even indulging in this conversation with you since I’m pretty much discussing symphonies with a deaf man and unfortunately, you’re no Beethoven. My advice to you? Stay in school. Save the playground insults for the 8 year olds you outgrew and still haven’t come to terms with it yet.

[@bobbydigital5236]

@@UceyJuceyJey He was buying up their music catalog.

[@harnoorsingh567]

When your successful and at the top of the world, there is always some asshole who tries to pull you down just because they are jealous of your success

[@Categgs-mf6vs]

Get that dude a glass of water god damn

[@MarkoTiano]

Hahaha

[@tr3xbaybay724]

Bro one of the kids grew up and had an interview. In that the kid says that MJ is such a nice guy. Never did any BS. He just missed his child hood that's it. And later onwards the person who did the interview had suicided too

[@equalist6282]

One of them was Aaron ..

[@thejokersnipes4821]

Plus even the home alone star kid grew up and defended MJ. If he did anything bad to him I’m sure he wouldn’t have defended him like he did in that interview.

[@tr3xbaybay724]

@@thejokersnipes4821 people are just jealous of MJ's wealth and popularity man .. that's that

[@treetrunk05]

​@@tr3xbaybay724 well its not jealousy. Its more like parents telling their kids to hang out with MJ so then they can fabricate a story and then sue.

[@Dedicated_.1]

@@treetrunk05 it wasn’t the parents idea, though they went along with it. It’s the people that Michael Jackson was fighting against idea. The elite.

[@fuckidk0350]

He was exposing the music industry and they didn’t like that so they started with his reputation and then tried to sweep him under the rug

[@Cresentmoontales]

It’s a pattern, they doing the same with nicki now once you break their rules they turn against you

[@kaushiksunapu5657]

​@@Cresentmoontalesoh well they do it in many film industries too

[@biking7747]

@@Cresentmoontales🤣🤣🤣

[@nickrobles6716]

More than exposing it he bought 50% of Sonys publishing. Which is something they can’t have.

[@dirkdiggler4567]

Whenever the media comes out full force and says someone is the greatest, that person usually turns out to be a total scumbag. The people the media relentlessly smear are usually not the scumbags the media say they are.

[@tasmeenbaker9912]

Michael Jackson might've been a weirdo but not THAT kind of weirdo

[@kristian.n.a91]

He said he saw god in children. That should rest the case.

[@deadfriendsrecords2938]

he genuinely loved children not like that but he just wanted to give them the childhood he never had 😢 REAL GOAT

[@Michael97Moore]

He loved kids to muched and probably touched them aswell you ever know and if you did he probably gave people the families to be quite

[@waterderp3433]

You could certainly give someone a childhood you never had in a bad way

[@EcnalKcin]

I agree, people who grow up without a childhood will often try the things they didn't get to as a kid, and give children opportunities they wished they had. I never saw any evidence that MJ did anything wrong, just countless accusations, from people that could financially benefit from it, and often attempted to do so.

[@v.k.healthlongevity9807]

Your neighbour is a man in his 50s and you find out he likes to invite over neighbourhood children to sleep in his bed and gives them wine to drink. Admitted behaviour from Michael himself. If you think this is normal you need to be locked up.

[@brownie5560]

@@Michael97Moore he never touched anyone….

[@whatsapokemonopening468]

He loved kids in the most pure way you can, never sexual, he was beat into being the breadwinner for his family extremely early in his life and never got a childhood. Not one of those kids have ever came out and said anything bad. They’ve actually come out and defended him. Please just let him rest in piece

[@fullysemiautomatic5618]

No way you just said that please do more research they literally found a bunch of pictures of naked boys in his belongings he was a pedophile

[@Avalanche8181]

Ignoring it makes it untrue 🤣

[@zoli11]

When I've learned that his 'bedroom' was bigger than my entire place with several big rooms, and with assistants and security hanging around, my opinion on this softened.

[@Aristotle777]

It's really not. The outline and pictures of his bedroom at Neverland is online. It's an average sized master for a mansion home. Those kids should not have been sleeping in his bed either way.

[@WoozyCool]

​@@Aristotle777 some kids accused him of SA grew up and admitted their parents forced em to lie for money. literally. it's as if no one cares as much if it's drama-stirring news.

[@Aristotle777]

@@WoozyCool That is a complete lie. Neither of the kids that accused him have said that.

[@an.d.m.a]

​@@WoozyCool none of the kids who accused him of SA grew up and said their parents forced them to lie for money.

[@AloneInThePark]

MJ exposed the industry and suddenly he died. Look it up. MJ was innocent. May his soul rest in heaven ❤.

[@frauleinhohenzollern8442]

Jesus. MJ. Kanye. JFK. Hitler. All have a strange thread in common. All challenged the same group.

[@kidchupacabra4369]

@@frauleinhohenzollern8442 Hitler??? wtf

[@kidchupacabra4369]

@@frauleinhohenzollern8442 hitler didnt challenge the same group he was a monster dont compare to any of those other figures your obviously just a white nationalist

[@TheJbonez1000]

MJ was the industry

[@xavierwhitcraft1310]

@@frauleinhohenzollern8442antisemite much?

[@lovingatlanta]

👍💝I love MJ and always will. He was a beautiful soul. He never molested or hurt a kid EVER! I hope he’s alive and well somewhere living his best life away from the hateful, evil, and disgusting people who intended to exploit and destroy him. 🙏💝

[@faked_my_death]

@lovingatlanta "Alive and well?" What the fuck?? It'd be nice to think Michael faked his death and escaped to some remote island, but that's not reality. MJ died. Really - he was murdered by a negligent doctor. You don't EVER give someone anesthesia and leave them alone. That's incredibly dangerous. All that doctor cared about was money 💵💵

[@Nextraker]

Can never trust Michael jackson

[@KillerMoth_Stumpy]

Personally, based on the evidence I've seen, he's innocent in my book.

[@JakeMillerWirehair]

He is innocent. And there was no proof he did wrong.

[@iB_pOpN]

Brendan, spit out those marbles. For gods sake

[@garaktartv3647]

I believe he was over compensating for his lost childhood, but at the end you dont really know that truly happened.

[@reecehayes7340]

He was severely mentally unstable I mean look at what he did to his body can’t believe people are shocked he was messing with kids

[@Destinyk775]

​@reecehayes7340 being weird is not a prerequisite for pedophilia tho. Actual pedophiles go out of there way to seem as normal as possible and they blend in. That way if/when they're accused by a child then the adults won't believe it. An fbi agent said MJ is the exact opposite of the pedophile profile

[@WoozyCool]

​@@reecehayes7340 ​ some kids accused him of SA grew up and admitted their parents forced em to lie for money. literally. it's as if no one cares as much if it's drama-stirring news. he literally told the public they're gonna kill him, the morning of the last day of his life. you too would be "unstable" if big guns were aiming for you, harassing your family and friends to get you in line, not even police would take your side cuz they're owned by the big guns. people just love looking into how someone can be a criminal, not how it's proven they're not. it's not as juicy and dramatic.

[@reecehayes7340]

@@WoozyCool he was unstable his whole life way before his final days I mean look what he did to his face my point still stands no way should children of been left with him at any point he’s wouldn’t be able to do that in todays world and you know that

[@an.d.m.a]

@@WoozyCool none of the kids that accused him of SA have grown up and said that their parents forced them to lie for money.

[@natebardwell]

The problem is he was grossly misunderstood. He never got to have a childhood, and weird as it was the man was merely trying to make sure other children had one. He also tried to bridge the gap by having a childhood as an adult, which was sure weird but not malicious.

[@dannyd.9932]

I don’t know if Jackson was guilty or not but I am certain he needed serious genuine therapy. His childhood and his siblings childhood is a tragic story.

[@shereebuckley7208]

Michael had a very sheltered life and everything was controlled by his father whom was also their nanager. He had no real childhood. No friends. And whenever he tried to make friends with other kids at a functions etc, he was always removed or the parents of those other kids would be called away from him because he was black. Only freedom he got was when he separated from his brothers and father went solo. He opened up Neverland and opened his home to kids because he never had that. Yes he was a little weird for doing that, but it was never for any creepy reasons. He just wanted to experience the joy and freedom us regular kids had. He did always have minders and body guards with him 24/7. All it takes is one greedy person's lie to destroy someone who is worth millions, just for a "windfall" to fill their kitty. It's fkn disgusting. And when his doco came out on his life after his death, these very same two people that started the lies, wanted to tell their story for more money. I'm not sure what happened to these people in the doco, however they got quiet pretty quick when someone questioned their motives. Michael was innocent.

[@hypocriticalsatire3966]

I don't think he could've handled the guilt of doing what he's accused of doing on top of the childhood trauma anyway

[@sonsabrenz]

he was innocent all the children that accused him came out as adults and said that they were forced to for money

[@Snyper1405]

@@shereebuckley7208 all you need to do is look into the accusers history, especially Wade's that will tell you it's suspicious and money motivated

[@Snyper1405]

@@hypocriticalsatire3966 after being humiliated by the police when they took photos of his naked body and private parts. I don't think he would risk that ever happening again. Michael was very self-conscious, as you know, and a part of him died that day. He never truly recovered from it as it's all just speculation at this point

[@camodino5667]

Michael Jackson was one of the nicest people ever even when people would Be awful to him he still was an extremely great man and he will always be missed.

[@v.k.healthlongevity9807]

Can't believe you knew him so well personally! Oh wait, you didn't? Stfu with your celebrity glorifying and fantasy land 😂

[@LL-wu5ui]

Lol, "Elton John admits Michael Jackson was ‘disturbing person to be around’ and ‘mentally ill’" Maybe dont be so delusional

[@calebfederico-dyer8837]

❤INNOCENT❤

[@LogicalCrento]

When you get famous, lots of people will lie on you to get some of that sweet sweet attention, and its a harsh fact. The Michael Jackson case is just an example of this.

[@JackyTheCoww]

Parents arent morons, theyre after a lawsuit

[@kmidi0]

making them morons

[@justheretoinspireyou5803]

The carter dude said his mom made up the story for money and him as a kid was embarrassed to accuse Michael when the only thing Michael did was being so cool to all

[@sevii9256]

It’s so sad. He just wanted to be a kid because he never had a childhood

[@dmoore8595]

Micheal had issues, but that after the shadiness surrounding his accusations, left me wondering what to believe. Cory Feldman said MJ was gone more than he was home while kids were in his house, and that Micheal abandoned him emotionally. Lisa Marie never thought he was like that. In fact she always said he was very immature, and needed parenting himself. His interest in children was more because he wished he was still one. That doesn't group him with Weinstein or Epstein.

[@WiningENT]

“ he’s not alive to defend himself “ thank you very much

[@an.d.m.a]

Thankfully he's no longer here

[@inserter400]

They destroyed him because he knew too much .

[@csorighthere8414]

No stupid. Ur wrong. And stfu. No one destroyed dumb bitch. He killed himself. Even tho a doctor was there. He was purposely getting high off Anesthesia to go to sleep and popping xans so no. He didn’t know shit. And u don’t know wtf ur talking about. Till u can make a paragraphs about them stfu. Cuz have no reasoning ur saying stupid shit to get likes even tho ur words have no meaning behind them and quiet frankly u don’t even know wtf ur talking about. He’s a drug addict

[@RottenSprinklz]

Not because they found children's underwear in his bedroom? Or that he dangled a toddler out a window? Or the fact that he said the kindest thing you could is to share your bed with someone?

[@opportunity3278]

​@@RottenSprinklz he had kids over in his massive house, kids will be kids and leave their belongings. Also sources? Context? He "dangled" his child to show her to people, yes it was dangerous but he wouldn't do that unless he had control of the situation. He had a terrible childhood and was abused by his father, terrible backstory to MJ. He had his coping mechanisms and one was to play with kids and have fun to have a normal childhood. And it's true sharing your bed with someone is very kind, have you ever slept in your mums bed? Best feeling in the world, him sharing his bed was his way of showing his kindness to the kids, he was "weird" but he was just a human he just wanted the best for all the kids he took care off cause he wanted these kids to experience a childhood that he couldn't. So strange to always excuse men of being pedophiles when they show affection and care to children instead of beating them and harming them.

[@shannajoy1821]

​@@RottenSprinklz bullshit

[@isaiahwilkes9131]

@@RottenSprinklz no hardcore evidence if he did something the government would’ve been gone after his estate or folks would’ve sued the fact that not a single penny was earned says a lot let’s be real here underwear in his room if they were sleeping over they probably changed in his room

[@lostdreams2737]

MJ was a genuine, caring soul. The problem was that from the 1st accusation, his advisors and the estate paid out, which made it look like he was guitly. MJ hated that. And the fact that the parents of their 'abused' children, all went to their legal team to make a compensation claim, as apposed to going to the police 🤔 A good documentary called 'Square one', is good to watch, it makes you see what was happening behind the scenes. Tom sneddon had it in for MJ and despite the FBI investigating him for over 10yrs, they didn't have 1 piece of evidence. He was found Not Guilty of all charges, yet he was convicted by the media. It's sad we lost a legand, but losing him was better than him being here amongst the real monsters, ruining him as a person, as the legand and the true humanitarian he was/is.

[@Dr.silver_856]

FBI had him on surveillance for over 10 years and never found anything…

[@an.d.m.a]

FBI never surveilled him

[@Dr.silver_856]

@@an.d.m.a proof?

[@Dr.silver_856]

@@an.d.m.a en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_files_on_Michael_Jackson

[@Dr.silver_856]

@@an.d.m.a en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_files_on_Michael_Jackson

[@Dr.silver_856]

@@an.d.m.a en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI_files_on_Michael_Jackson

[@artisdeloney7278]

Yall have to remember Michael Jackson didn’t have a childhood

[@andrewkruithof3037]

The media of the time wouldn't allow any defense of Micheal to be published or aired. There is big money in the fall of a hero or celebrity, and they didn't care if they condemned an innocent man to cash out.

[@noone8118]

They're not morons they were greedy

[@MegaKing10001]

No real parent would choose money over justice if their child got violated

[@jayray394]

What world do you live in where no parent would do that ?

[@50PullUps]

@@jayray394 No *real* parent would do that

[@_just_another_filthy_redcoat]

Oh you sweet summer children…. The fact you think all parents are nice caring and loving just tells me the real world hasn’t ruined yous yet Yet being the key word there….

[@LossBH]

@@_just_another_filthy_redcoat guess he’s saying they’re not real parents if they do what these people did. there’s a difference between a dna giver and a birth giver, as opposed to a dad and mom

[@laracar0lina]

​@@jayray394a real parent wouldnt do it. I know a mom that she lost her baby when he was about to born due to stupid doctors that did something that endangered the babys life and she didnt want to do and they killed the baby. She went through a lot of suffering, she went to court, lost all her money and possessions only to have justice, for the hospital to be blamed. The hospital tried to deal with a lot of money and she rejected it! She lost everything and still didnt accept that dirty money! She is a true mom

[@kimberlystigall5131]

And then on their death bed they come out saying “oh I lied” after messing up someone’s life…..😢

[@reecehayes7340]

He was a kiddy lover stop being delusional

[@annagonzales8178]

The song they don’t really care about us kinda tells how high up people were coming for him and for a long time. Eventually they find a weakness

[@Destinyk775]

And they didn't find a weakness with MJ Only something to desecrate and lie about.

[@turtlerabbitart]

Knew too much, said too much. A hero lives forever. Be the hero. Live forever.

[@landonthomass]

Me in ww2 history: I don’t wanna talk about it he’s not alive to defend himself

[@ariellephillips2563]

Those parents had an agenda they are not morons. They knew exactly what they were doing.

[@WoozyCool]

some kids who accused him of SA, grew up and admitted their parents forced em to lie for money. hence the parents being morons, for thinking their kids will stick to the plot written by parents even after growing up.

[@an.d.m.a]

​@@WoozyCool that's 100% fabricated misinformation invented by and repeated by delusional fans. NONE of the victims have ever said that their parents made them do that when they grew up. They all still maintain that they were SA'd by him as kids.

[@an.d.m.a]

@@WoozyCool that's absolutely false! Not one single victim has ever said their parents forced them to lie for money.

[@TeeDaProfit]

They put the pieces in motion. Not only was he the most talented man in the world; he was also a very smart man. He was worth far more than they would have you believe. They probably implanted people in his life and everything. Dr. Murphy was definitely hired and that’s why he got off so easily. Oh, what kind of doctor does that? He knew not to give him that amount and he still did. Just because Michael Jackson wanted him to? He was definitely advising him and enabling him to take it.

[@Lord_Pilaf]

He was innocent

[@nickclark18]

Yepp

[@SonicRiders]

He was peter Pan.. he loved children and loved the essence of being a child. With much respect to MJ.

[@bipolarbear7325]

Peter Pan didn't sleep in the room with the kids.

[@misgle]

​​@@bipolarbear7325 Nor did MJ

[@bipolarbear7325]

@@misgle yes, he did. He admitted that. You can parse words over whether he slept in the same bed with them or whatever you consider inappropriate, but it's a matter of fact that he shared a bedroom with children. You can easily verify that he is on record saying so.

[@gronjol560xd6]

​@@bipolarbear7325his bedroom was the size of an entire house.

[@ao2415]

​@@bipolarbear7325 Bro MJ bedroom is the size of a house

[@SunnyDarkoShow]

MJ would never hurt anyone.

[@an.d.m.a]

He didn't think he was hurting them, he believed he was making love to them.

[@JustSendMeLocationPlease]

When I was a kid it was popular to make fun of him and nobody had nice things to say about him. But as I got older I feel like I just didn’t understand. Sorry Michael

[@googlefaps5883]

I remember the home alone kid was defending him

[@PerfectSaga]

Just listen to the Macaulay Culkin interview. "He was our friend because he treated us like people and not kids." "Of course we all slept in his room. His bedroom was a two story tall jungle gym."

[@joneschilufya867]

The fact that he was under the FBI surveillance and yet he wasn't found guilty of any of those cases says a lot.

[@an.d.m.a]

He was never on the surveillance by the FBI.

[@themdivision8079]

The parents made a lot of money, MJ was innocent. Love you MJ❤

[@Rizzob17]

If u look at all these drag story hours at schools, libraries, and all the parents who are pushing their kids to hate their identity and change it, you begin to realize a lot of people will do anything for clout.

[@RagingRose479]

Everytime I go back and listen to MJ, and listen in on his interviews and private calls and whatnot, I cry everytime for this man. I feel a hurt. I believe because I cry for this man , he will always be innocent. Completely and %100. But a part of me still believes in the media's lies and I'm still clouded by it despite what's been laid out in front of me. I listened to the very first guy who accused MJ of pedophilia, and what that man said on that very phone call made me extremely mad. Full of shit and I could hear it in his voice. I wanted to punch him so hard. Other accusers and all that there were many loopholes in their stories that made no sense whatsoever. There's no evidence of pedophilia. Despite what MJ said about letting a kid sleep in his bed in that interview, he seemed really high as a kite at that time and didn't word anything correctly. I believe he'd let them sleep in his bed, but he wouldn't sleep WITH him in the bed. He'd sleep on the floor. Also his room was a two story. Those bodyguards and those close to him seemed confident in that MJ wasn't one at all. With all the messages in MJs songs, and spreading love and peace, and with him literally being powerful and having the whole world's eyes on him to the point that I believe he could've achieved world peace. No, I don't think he's a pedophile. There's many things I would like to say. But all I'm going to put is just "Fuck the media" and that's it

[@Cresentmoontales]

I was accused of sexually assaulting a baby just cus I love kids😢

[@user-ms3gi1wq4n]

@@Cresentmoontalesbro explain what happened bc what😭

[@ryanandrews7563]

I respect all the loyalty of those that are suggesting he’s innocent… But that does not excuse MJ’s behavior of sleeping with young boys in his bed. That’s not normal. That was his adult choice whether or not you think he’s Peter Pan and he continued to make poor choices.

[@_TransWomenRMen]

the kid came out when he became an adult and straight up said in an interview that nothing happened and his parents made him lie for the money.

[@redtargetball]

Brendan comes in with strep lol

[@RealMexFoodShouldntGiveUDrrhea]

I think Michael reached a level of stardom that some could not fathom and sought to destroy his career. Which in a way they kinda did because he’d still be making hits to this day, but died. However legends never truly die

[@kontraksionista]

Personally think that MJ wants to be a kid again. Not he "likes" children. Just he has terrible life as a kid and want to replay it again.

[@eliteculture1519]

Do I think he is guilty? I’m really not to sure. All that I DO know is it is SUPER WEIRD to even sleep in the same bed with a child you had just met as a grown ass man 🤦🏽‍♂️ it’s really really undeniably weird

[@feedapony]

Most men spend their 20s in bars and banging women their 30s with the wife and raising kids Not MJ he had sleep overs and played legs, perfectly normal 😂😂😂

[@donothesitate1198]

Yeah it's weird as fuck but it doesn't even compare to what he's accused of

[@ericveith4149]

Not wrong. Hence why after the first allegation people close to him warned him how it would look if he continued having sleepovers ‘cause… well yeah. But he ignored them assuming that because he wasn’t doing anything to those kids that nothing would come of it. Unfortunately for him that was majorly naive

[@cierrafriend2185]

The elite pay in influence. Micheal had influence. He was too powerful. Mcculli would have absolutely snitched on that man.

[@JoshPecks500lbDad]

Remember everyone, its perfectly normal for a grown man to have boys at his home. Nothing wrong or suspicious about that at all

[@gonzoyork1908]

Unless you're Michael Jackson.

[@rasheed9705]

When you look at the allegations, try rationalizing the claims with evidence. Takes James Safechucks claims for example: 1. Safechuck claims he was abused from '88-92 (until the age of 14). I, the "Honeymoon stage" (the beginning), he was repeatedly taken to the second floor of the train station to be abused. ---> The train station was built in 1994 (construction began Q4 93) 2. Safechuck claims he was flown to NYC as MJ was there to perform at the 1989 Grammy's and was abused on that trip. ---> The 89 Grammy's were not in NYC, nor did MJ attend or perform.