Why Minnesota Vikings should NOT trade up to No. 3

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Purple Daily - a Minnesota Vikings Podcast

Purple Daily - a Minnesota Vikings Podcast

Ай бұрын

It’s Thorsday! Minnesota Vikings attending pro days and which ones wll go second overall; Why Thor wouldn’t go up to No. 3 because the cost is too high; What the Vikings should look to accomplish in trading up; Live mock draft update and a random Viking of the week.
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@danlardino6607
@danlardino6607 Ай бұрын
Thor is definitely Purple Daily’s secret weapon. He elevates the conversation like no other guest you have on. He’s extremely knowledgeable about football and, has a more realistic outlook on the game. Chicago Fan
@kalenstecz
@kalenstecz Ай бұрын
What Chicago fan would watch this show daily
@Durrtlett9797
@Durrtlett9797 Ай бұрын
I love all his takes except that I know that drake maye not only is worth trading up for but he's the best qb in this draft even over Caleb williams
@tommygreenthumbs
@tommygreenthumbs Ай бұрын
​@@kalensteczsomeone passionate about the game who wants to keep up with what a division rival is doing? Just a guess lol
@kalenstecz
@kalenstecz Ай бұрын
@@tommygreenthumbs idk about you man but I don’t have enough time in my day to watch 2 daily football podcasts
@danlardino6607
@danlardino6607 Ай бұрын
@@kalenstecz a Vikings fan in Chicago
@dbkaggie
@dbkaggie Ай бұрын
PFF mock trades are so bad. Good on Judd for keeping y'all honest lol
@skyhawk4946
@skyhawk4946 Ай бұрын
There is no way the Cardinals will trade the fourth overall pick for less than 3 first-round picks. They know it's for a QB and they will want 3 firsts. They would be stupid to trade for two firsts when the potential best receiver for the next decade in Harrison is sitting there for them.
@MINNESOTA_PTSD
@MINNESOTA_PTSD Ай бұрын
@@skyhawk4946 Everything you’re saying is wrong. If 2 firsts is stupid??? Then so is 3 firsts. Are you a Viking fan?? Can you tell me what having the best WR in all of football has done for the Vikings these past 4 years ???? Okay, so how is ARZ going to benefit on waisting the #4 overall pick on a WR that MIGHT, be elite??? Also, isn’t this one of the deepest WR classes ever??? Furthermore, is kyler Better than Kirk ??? Is Arz better than Minn??? JJ did nothing for Minn. didn’t move the needle. I’m not sure how you could begin to answer these questions without totally disproving everything you previously wrote???
@kellyoman2196
@kellyoman2196 Ай бұрын
Sometimes you gotta give up a lot to get your guy. If koc really likes maye or Daniels you should move up and get the guy he wants. I dont like the idea that we are ok just taking whatever qb is left at 4. Id rather see them pursue a specific player, showing they see something in him and have a plan. Just accepting the scraps is a weird way to go about it. I seriously doubt they feel the same about the top 4 qbs. Vikings have never moved up aggressively to get "their" guy. This is the perfect time to do so.
@shaun374
@shaun374 Ай бұрын
This! You don’t get too many chances to go get your guy - a franchise QB. Playing the “just take who falls to us” idiot game is why this franchise never takes the jump to the next level.
@jeremyjones8394
@jeremyjones8394 Ай бұрын
Exactly! Scared money don't make money. Bottom line
@ridemotoeveryday2524
@ridemotoeveryday2524 Ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking about this angle as a possibility. What if who he likes is Penix the most, would they be giving up alot or be a reach to grab him at 11 if they feel he’s “the guy”? I hope they go after whoever they like but are we even sure they like one of the “top 4”? I know we all want the same thing in the best QB they can get at all cost and finally have a franchise QB but are any of us sure about who that is? Trading alot of assets doesn’t make who we pick better, it’s about picking the right guy, maybe that guy isn’t who we think we should get? All this speculation and talk is driving me crazy lol, can’t wait to for the draft! Wish it was here already! SKOL!
@jeremykim124
@jeremykim124 Ай бұрын
If the quarterback ends up being a hit, nobody is going to look back and regret the capital it took to trade up for him
@Vikings1974
@Vikings1974 Ай бұрын
Happy Thorsday and Happy Easter to all you Vikings fans and to anyone else that is watching or listening 🙏❤️🐇😊
@vikinglobo2415
@vikinglobo2415 Ай бұрын
Happy Easter!
@kylekirchhevel9097
@kylekirchhevel9097 Ай бұрын
Thank you Thor for trying to hit the brakes on trading up at any cost. No way do I want our 2025 1st traded away. And with Penix smoking a 4.46 40 at his pro day, standing at 11 and taking him doesn't seem as crazy anymore either. Because after that there's no way he gets past the Seahawks at 16.
@michaelmarrerowx
@michaelmarrerowx Ай бұрын
Id love to see Thor twice a week! Minnesota needs more of him, and Purple Daily!
@timanderson2465
@timanderson2465 Ай бұрын
Best Thor Thursday in a while, he was fired up today!!
@snmr1318
@snmr1318 Ай бұрын
Yea, Thor schooled mack a dack.
@tommygreenthumbs
@tommygreenthumbs Ай бұрын
I 1000% agree with Thor. I take whatever QB is at 4 or 5 and keep next years first rounder. 3 first rounders is a waste of resources. Hell no
@steveg3265
@steveg3265 Ай бұрын
If the Patriots stand pat and there are 3-4 teams wanting McCarthy, they may get our 2025 1st and more. This is where Judd's caution is so valid.
@tommygreenthumbs
@tommygreenthumbs Ай бұрын
@@steveg3265 oh I get that it'll probably happen, just hate that that's the price most likely.
@JeppMD
@JeppMD Ай бұрын
If Caleb and Jayden go 1 and 2, you have to go get to #3. Drake Maye is QB1 in this draft, even ahead of Caleb. Perfect fit for the KOC offense.
@RowdyLpx
@RowdyLpx Ай бұрын
I think Maye is an obvious bust but I'm also not a draft expert.
@hueyang5943
@hueyang5943 Ай бұрын
If Kyle Sloter ain't good enough you won't want Maye.
@JeppMD
@JeppMD Ай бұрын
@@hueyang5943 you didn't just compare kyle sloter to one of the highest graded college QBs of the last decade? Come on man
@BloodySoup74
@BloodySoup74 Ай бұрын
​@@JeppMDMaye is not that guy.
@jhainje83
@jhainje83 Ай бұрын
Maye IS that guy
@user-xo2ve5eb8m
@user-xo2ve5eb8m Ай бұрын
Penix just ran a fast forty yard dash so knees look more than ok.. dont overpay to move past 4 or 5 to get a guy that may not be better
@jaredpribyl
@jaredpribyl Ай бұрын
Running 40 yards one time doesn’t show durability of knees…I do think he will be fine, but he wouldn’t even be cleared to play football if he couldn’t run 40 yards lol
@Krawllll
@Krawllll Ай бұрын
With a bidding war at 4, there is NO way just 11 and 23 will get that pick.
@Saltyahole
@Saltyahole Ай бұрын
How do you know there’s a bidding war? They want there to be one
@chazaqs9109
@chazaqs9109 Ай бұрын
Who is the bidding war with?
@OnePost909
@OnePost909 Ай бұрын
Outstanding episode. Excellent questions from Phil and Judd. Judd shouting out Thor for highlight McCarthy weeks ago -- great.
@user-jl1jm6lx2t
@user-jl1jm6lx2t Ай бұрын
Love it. Someone with a sense of what is a real cost. Never give up the farm for one player.
@CFBisKing
@CFBisKing Ай бұрын
Thor - "Mardi Gras beads" "Kelley Blue Book" LOL
@CristhianEspinosa
@CristhianEspinosa Ай бұрын
I almost spit my drink out😂😂
@BigMac_7406
@BigMac_7406 Ай бұрын
Saw a rumor on X that the Vikings Cards and Chargers have discussed a 3 team trade: Vikings get: 4 Cardinals get: 5, 23 Chargers get: 11, 27
@kameronerdman5870
@kameronerdman5870 Ай бұрын
love it
@RedTideRTS
@RedTideRTS Ай бұрын
I really like this. Have to wait 1 more month 😩
@Razorbacks1
@Razorbacks1 Ай бұрын
If Williams, Daniels and Maye go 1-2-3, I think you are paying too much for McCarthy at 4. If Maye or Daniels fall to 4 I like it.
@ryanhenderson4395
@ryanhenderson4395 Ай бұрын
Cards fan…I’ve been hoping for this deal for weeks now. 🤞🏻
@drbenway4
@drbenway4 Ай бұрын
Wow, that makes a ton of sense. Of course, they'll never do it 😅
@StormFalcon657
@StormFalcon657 Ай бұрын
QB tax is why it will take 3 firsts, but that shouldn’t scare us. QB classes like this don’t come around often.
@MegaRrrccc
@MegaRrrccc Ай бұрын
Just dont pay too much. That is, dont give up the 2025 number 1 pick
@ryandaley3351
@ryandaley3351 Ай бұрын
I think it's fine for the Vikings to trade three first round picks to get Maye or Daniels. If they trade up to #4 or #5 to get McCarthy, they should only trade 2 first round picks.
@traintrain83
@traintrain83 Ай бұрын
What if it’s 3 first or no QB this year then what ?
@2Evil2Hope
@2Evil2Hope Ай бұрын
​@@traintrain83 Them that's fine. Don't overpay for a mid QB like McCarthy crippling this team for years to come.
@kevinvonderscher3971
@kevinvonderscher3971 Ай бұрын
@@ryandaley3351 if your the cardinals GM why would you make a deal for just 11 & 23 ? Vikings will be left in the dust because 3 or 4 teams will offer a lot more .
@shaun374
@shaun374 Ай бұрын
Why? Over the last 15 years how many of our 1st round picks have been high-impact players? Five? Take the guy who is highly regarded to be a guaranteed franchise QB over the next 12-15 years. Don’t miss out on that opportunity just so you have a 33% chance of drafting a potential 3x all-pro player at . Just absolutely scared, weak thinking.
@wonderming1
@wonderming1 Ай бұрын
If any fans understand paying too much for a QB, it's Minnesota. Paying too much will psychologically impact that guys career in Minnesota. Fans won't let it go.
@user-qr7ee2cp4y
@user-qr7ee2cp4y Ай бұрын
Minnesota is the poster boy for paying too much... herschel walker, sutter/Parise, Kirk cousins, do we need to dig deeper?
@ilikesteak65
@ilikesteak65 Ай бұрын
The top 3 QB's drafted in 2023 where Bryce young (pick 1), C.J. Stroud (pick 2) and Anthony Richardson (pick 4). The only one of those QB's that looks like a potential long term QB is CJ Stroud. Even when drafting one of the top identified QB's, it is still a crap shoot.
@wiscored88
@wiscored88 Ай бұрын
If Richardson didn’t get hurt, colts would have gotten pretty far though
@randylewis8628
@randylewis8628 Ай бұрын
Yeah Richardson is a stud and you can't even call it on young yet being on the worst roster in football. Pat mahomes would lose there
@ilikesteak65
@ilikesteak65 Ай бұрын
@@randylewis8628 Pat Mahomes wasn't picked until pick 10. I honestly think he would make any team in the league better. People get caught up in what the media thinks of certain players so much sometimes that they miss who will truly do well.
@randylewis8628
@randylewis8628 Ай бұрын
@@ilikesteak65 I wasn't talking about when mahomes was drafted. I was saying pat mahomes would lose on that Carolina team last year.
@jimquast8186
@jimquast8186 Ай бұрын
Are you scared 😂
@Mooseontheradio
@Mooseontheradio Ай бұрын
This is the difference between an NFL team and NFL GMS and internet guys, Madden GM's and media. NFL teams know who they want and are not willing to settle.
@zay7443
@zay7443 Ай бұрын
I’ll trade up for Daniels or Maye not McCarthy
@Big_Bake
@Big_Bake Ай бұрын
Agreed man!
@donnagreene7766
@donnagreene7766 Ай бұрын
Mc Carthy is a good QB, but .... a strange thing happened. As Harbaugh became a NFL HC, Mc Carthy 's stock went up. Strange, since Mc Carthy was never in consideration for Heisman as the others or the top 4.Harbaugh cheerleading for his QB??
@zay7443
@zay7443 Ай бұрын
@@donnagreene7766 he’s just not a top 5 pick that’s my problem with drafting him he was carried by his team and protected from doing certain things on the field
@donnagreene7766
@donnagreene7766 Ай бұрын
I agree with you. I saw Daniels at ASU, good! I am concerned over slight built but he is a fighter.@@zay7443
@raymondhoagland4976
@raymondhoagland4976 Ай бұрын
Always look forward Purple daily and Thor Thursday 👍
@hueyang5943
@hueyang5943 Ай бұрын
Vikings can do whatever in the draft but if that oline sucks they won't go nowhere.
@djangorestraind596
@djangorestraind596 Ай бұрын
Won't go anywhere until 56% of the problem is fixed
@lorenheaton7524
@lorenheaton7524 Ай бұрын
No matter the O line combination the Viking roll out if Garrett Bradbury is a part of it it’s going to fail. Why in the hell this staff gave this liability a second contract is mind boggling. I sure as hell hope Darrisaw was playing injured the last few games because he was not playing well.
@phreakerbythespeaker9902
@phreakerbythespeaker9902 Ай бұрын
Great job Declan on stumping Mackey and Judd, that was hilarious. 💜
@BrejetyKirby
@BrejetyKirby Ай бұрын
I’m with Judd. I’d rather do these mocks in a realistic fashion. No way the cards are giving back a pick.
@SteveKohler-hd6bf
@SteveKohler-hd6bf Ай бұрын
Great discussion about trading up, protecting draft capital and key positions which still need to be addressed.
@JWD26
@JWD26 Ай бұрын
Thor is the freaking man. Love when he makes appearances. SKOL 💜
@ridemotoeveryday2524
@ridemotoeveryday2524 Ай бұрын
Are we even sure the Vikings even want to trade up? I know this thought triggers a lot of listeners but what if it’s possible they are sold on Penix? And are doing extra research on McCarthy and Maye to make sure they aren’t missing something on them? To make sure if it’s worth to trade multiple firsts to grab one? Grabbing that 23 pick was maybe to ensure they can just grab Penix at 11 and use the 23 or package the 23 with a few day 3 picks to move up a few spots and grab a DT? If it’s not a reach to trade multiple firsts to move up and grab one of the “top 4” if they like one, then it wouldn’t be a reach to just grab Penix at 11 if that’s the guy they think they like and think that can be the franchise? I believe KOC feels he can coach any of these guys he feels he likes and Kwesi is about value so this might make the most sense and still have next year’s first!
@vikesfan01
@vikesfan01 Ай бұрын
last week "lets do one of these where we stay at 11" This week "Lets move up to 4 again and take JJ again"😃 Love the show and the excitement you have for the draft. If only anyone knew what the NFL teams are actually thinking.
@ONLYFEARGOD99
@ONLYFEARGOD99 Ай бұрын
Right on time! Nice I just took lunch. This hr will fly by😎
@JarellWhitehead
@JarellWhitehead Ай бұрын
My personal opinion, that’s a fear based answer…. This team needs a franchise qb and if your scared to give up your 2025 first rounder then idk what to say…. So what if we don’t have a first rounder next year whoodie doo this franchise has been thru worse. The Vikings will be fine without the 2025 first round pick if they give it up SKOL
@brianhewitt8369
@brianhewitt8369 Ай бұрын
Believe it or not I watched the first game at us bank last night haha. Charles Johnson came in clutch a few different times in that win against the packers. Fun fact Jordy Nelson has the first regular season touchdown in US bank stadium
@DerrickRG
@DerrickRG Ай бұрын
He was a dude that year. Sucks his injuries really crippled his ability to play.
@markhenke6370
@markhenke6370 Ай бұрын
I played COD with Charles Johnson. I knew this one.
@aeronmuckala5013
@aeronmuckala5013 Ай бұрын
Call me crazy, but I would be happy if they took two defensive linemen in the first round to build a new version of the Williams Wall and ride with Sam Darnold for now.
@billnope7840
@billnope7840 Ай бұрын
The PFF final grade is probably calculating draft picks for team needs and fit. They also may be calculating the necessary talent level to fill the team need. That meaning, if one picks a player that projects as a backup and the team NEEDS depth at the position, one might get a slight overall bonus. We need a starting QB, so even though we reached for JJ, PFF may see it as SUCH a team need that the overall grade puts a bonus on the overall grade.
@jameslyon163
@jameslyon163 Ай бұрын
Thor is my favorite even if I don’t always agree with him. It wouldn’t be fun to always agree. He has great insight and knowledge
@iamjahenderson
@iamjahenderson Ай бұрын
By adding the 2025 1st you’re essentially only trading away 1 first round pick if you’re really think about it. Never settle.
@TristanandIsolt
@TristanandIsolt Ай бұрын
OMG Thor is saying everything I say. I'm loving it. Sarcastically talking about "whatever it takes". Not giving up Next years pick.
@TimHills-ln3xg
@TimHills-ln3xg Ай бұрын
Our d would b great if we spent 11 and 23 on stud def. players . Lots of off players. Going off board Def players are going 2 b sitting there For the pickin we signed Sam he might b our guy with great players around him and a good defense. Plus lots of cap next yr.
@davidnelson6874
@davidnelson6874 Ай бұрын
The Buffalo Bills said the personal visit with Josh Allen was where he really stood out to them. He was great on the whiteboard. He had good recognition of defenses and where to go with the ball in various offensive sets.
@Sue_V
@Sue_V Ай бұрын
I understand not wanting to part with next years first, but we might not have a choice. I don't want to miss out because we refused to give that pick up, and another team gives a better offer
@77racing71
@77racing71 Ай бұрын
too much fear of loss
@upnorth5716
@upnorth5716 Ай бұрын
with all the cap space we have next year, who cares if we have 1st next year
@77racing71
@77racing71 Ай бұрын
Most people care!!
@upnorth5716
@upnorth5716 Ай бұрын
@@77racing71 you get your qb of the future(the 1 you want, not a settle), it don't matter that we dont have a 1st next year...free agents next year will be enough for a team that has never had a franchise qb
@2Evil2Hope
@2Evil2Hope Ай бұрын
​@upnorth5716 If you miss on the QB, you destroy the Vikings' future for years to come while you waste JJ's peak.
@randylewis8628
@randylewis8628 Ай бұрын
​@@upnorth5716facts to many of these so called fans shouldn't be fans or even talk because they are okay being just average. There isn't a single difference between 0-17 and 13-4 if you don't win the Superbowl. And if you don't try and go up and get the best QB you're obviously not trying and then what's the point. We want a Superbowl not to just be good during the regular season. Settling is what the Vikings have done since Dennis Green. Atleast they tried
@randylewis8628
@randylewis8628 Ай бұрын
​@@2Evil2Hopeif you miss on QB you go out and draft another. This isn't the 80 if a guy sucks you move on. 2 years of first rounders isn't gonna make a difference if you don't have a QB that can carry a team
@colandasdrennon6960
@colandasdrennon6960 Ай бұрын
Why do we complain about the o line and in every mock pull a Rick and draft a late round o lineman and hope he turns out
@chrisstollsteimer8622
@chrisstollsteimer8622 Ай бұрын
If your QB is at 3 you have to go get him
@danithompson8743
@danithompson8743 Ай бұрын
I have NEVER gotten "random Viking of the week" first until today. I got it after the quarterbacks were listed. Thanks Phil and Judd-- you made my day by missing it! SKOL!
@kameronerdman5870
@kameronerdman5870 Ай бұрын
its a great feeling isn't it
@Large-Viking
@Large-Viking Ай бұрын
Have you heard the latest comments from Josh Dobbs about Jaren Hall? I believe in coaching up Hall this offseason in getting him ready for this coming season. Just think what the Vikings could do with their picks in the draft if they didn't draft a QB.
@kylekirchhevel9097
@kylekirchhevel9097 Ай бұрын
What PFF or any other simulator can't duplicate is the tax/surcharge/gouging that happens when the other team KNOWS you're trading for a QB. By the Rich Hill trade chart, 11+23 should not only get us #4, but AZ's 3rd #66 kicked back to us. That's not happening.
@tue1981
@tue1981 Ай бұрын
Daniel Jeremiah and Joel Klatt like Maye, so 3. A 2025 first round pick is nothing to sneeze at, but Thor's logic only works if you *are* ok with any of the three, and I don't think the V's are. I think their order is DM, JJM, JD Ariz will trade 4, so JJM will make the Giants, Broncos, or Raiders happy.
@toofrank2222
@toofrank2222 Ай бұрын
As someone who would be down to cough up (4) 1st rounders to go up to #2 and get Jayden Daniels, I totally understand Thor and Mackey on this. If KO feels he and his staff can develop what they view is a plethora of young talent, then of course use that opportunity to not give up excess draft capital prematurely! Also, I like that they haven't made a move yet, I think you all alluded to it before, but they have obviously been calling teams and didn't like the 'ask' and are willing to allow time (t) to increase now that they have more 2024 1st round capital to play with. I can see the Vikes resuming activity on draft day, but after the clock starts who knows. Should be a fun day 1!
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 Ай бұрын
I am all in on the Daniels train. As the Avengers once said "whatever it takes!" Even if his one year wonder scares me like Akili Smith. He still has the highest potential imo. Williams scares the heck out of me that he has other things on his mind than being super great. Maye is inaccurate as heck and that cannot be improved all that much. McCarthy gives me Flacco/Mayfield vibes. I do like Nix alot. I see Brees in him. Penix looks pretty solid as well.
@StevenHall-ul4fo
@StevenHall-ul4fo Ай бұрын
I haven't seen even a semi realistic 1st round that Thors a part of. He always wants to game the PFF system when we all know the trades are extremely unrealistic
@mattswanson1189
@mattswanson1189 Ай бұрын
Can we please discuss with Thor punters and kickers? Still grieving what Gary Anderson did to my childhood.
@kylekirchhevel9097
@kylekirchhevel9097 Ай бұрын
Best case scenario for Vikings is QB's going 1-3, then AZ sticking and picking MHJ. That leaves the Chargers at 5... who won't deal a QB to the Broncos or Raiders.
@caseymoore8461
@caseymoore8461 Ай бұрын
I've got to push back on Thor here. I would give him a C- on his draft. You can't pass on NT McKinney Jackson, DL Tyler Davis, G Christian MAHOGANY, C Sedrick VAN PRAN, G Dominick PUNI, WR Malik WASHINGTON and or C Hunter NOURZAD for some of your delusional draft picks. I agree with some of the picks and your other mock drafts but this one is a no go for me. Meaning you blew it, man!
@scottchavez1688
@scottchavez1688 Ай бұрын
YES! FINALLY!! DO NOT TRADE NEXT YEARS 1ST ROUND PICK! Funny how Mackey AGREES now😂 For the past month it's been "Trade next years pick trade everything to get your guy". NO. It's going to be a top 5 pick next year. Its okay to change your mind when you see the big picture, just dont forget next month during the draft🙂
@basedjiren3889
@basedjiren3889 Ай бұрын
If they miss out on Maye or Daniels because they wont give up the 2025 1st and McCarthy busts, KOC and Kwesi should be fired
@darrellsanbornjr2088
@darrellsanbornjr2088 Ай бұрын
Kwesi should be sent packing if he blows another draft.
@chazaqs9109
@chazaqs9109 Ай бұрын
Commanders and Patriots might not want to trade if they like those QBs as much as you.
@seaniethemick
@seaniethemick Ай бұрын
damn I agree with Thor. Let the other guys overbid for this lottery ticket (not a guarantee). Two firsts to get #3 or #4 qb is enough
@gasnon11
@gasnon11 Ай бұрын
“Just running off inertia” haha love it.
@jctheobald22
@jctheobald22 Ай бұрын
Love a good bachelor reference
@dicks8492
@dicks8492 Ай бұрын
What happens if the Vikes were blowing smoke and their real intention was Marvin Harrison Jr cuz they have decided to give Darnold a one year trial. So imagine Marvin Harrison, Jefferson and Addison as your Wr's. This would be an amazing offense for Darnold and ensures he succeeds.
@aronc4597
@aronc4597 Ай бұрын
I’d be with it 😂
@jgiza8888
@jgiza8888 Ай бұрын
Then Fire Kweasy.
@Selling-McCarthyism
@Selling-McCarthyism Ай бұрын
This has all the feelings of the 2004 NFL draft. 1. Williams (Eli, some drama and wanting to go to a successful franchise) 2. Daniels & Maye (Rivers, successful in the right situation) 3. McCarthy (Big Ben, will likely fall to a qb needy team and probably the best career due to situation)
@mrgobbleton
@mrgobbleton Ай бұрын
There HAS to be a way we dont give up 2025 #1. In kwesi we trust 🙏
@jayfieber7013
@jayfieber7013 Ай бұрын
The Panthers traded the 9th overall pick, a 2023 second-round pick, a 2024 first-round pick, and a 2025 second-round pick (plus DJ Moore) to the Bears in exchange for the 1st overall pick. This means that the Panthers moved up 8 spots in the draft. I feel that we would be getting completely fleeced to trade (4) 1st round picks to go up 8 spots to #3 for the potential 3rd QB on the board.
@donaldwehland1010
@donaldwehland1010 Ай бұрын
if we do have to go after penix my draft strategy has been to trade back attempting to get a 2025 round 1 pick + trading back to 31 or 32... i even traded back from 23 as well...
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 Ай бұрын
They are not going to trade back from 23 to get basically the same picks they gave up just to get pick 23. Use some logic Bubba.
@donaldwehland1010
@donaldwehland1010 Ай бұрын
@@WheresWaldo05 my first line..... IF we have to go after penix.... meaning no other deal could be done AND we HAVE to go after penix.... logic is there
@donaldwehland1010
@donaldwehland1010 Ай бұрын
@@WheresWaldo05 also, it depends what is offered... i dont always trade back, but sometimes the mock offers a great deal and i think about it
@wiscored88
@wiscored88 Ай бұрын
If we don’t pay, we wont play though
@B.A.S.Drydock
@B.A.S.Drydock Ай бұрын
Who is catching the ball in private workouts? Would live it to be JJ and JA. That way, the recivers get a feel for who they like on their end. I know it's not them, but that would be valuable info.
@DanTheMan4Life1
@DanTheMan4Life1 Ай бұрын
You have to worry about the Broncos/Raiders trading up to 3/4 or 4/5 to get those guys & then you’re left with egg on your face…might as well trade 3 1s to get your guy
@chazaqs9109
@chazaqs9109 Ай бұрын
Every team at those picks will ask the Vikings to match. Especially because none of them want to have to move down that far down if they don’t have to. Vikings might be fine. Biggest worry would be 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10. All the teams who want a QB could hop us and are more likely to be able to get those picks then anything in top 5
@jakefez1031
@jakefez1031 Ай бұрын
unbelievable i want my new QB that they believe in! If we like the third QB in the draft go get him trade 11/23 and next years first its the going rate idk why we are pretending thats not what it will take! dont compare us to the panthers! 🤦🏻‍♂️ painful but its one opinion and opinions are like assholes everyones got one!
@andyr472
@andyr472 Ай бұрын
You're assuming you could get to 4 or 5. The cardinals wouldn't do business with the vikes last year for Anthony Richardson. They didn't want to deal in conference. They might be happier to sell to the broncos. And then you have the giants... do you really think they're gonna move off daniel Jones when they just paid him. I don't. If they do decide to get a qb... I bet they move to 3. The cardinals deal to Denver, or even Seattle. And there you are drafting a guy with no arm, or a guy with glass knees(nix or penix). The vikes need to get to 3 at all cost. So what if it costs an extra 1st.... we got tons of cap next year. Don't go the wussie route just to save a pick that might not turn out anyway. If your guy is at 3... you better get there.!!!!!!!
@cindyfagerstrom8825
@cindyfagerstrom8825 Ай бұрын
In Kwesi we trust. He'll stay at #11 and draft Pennix, then take the best available OL at #23. Outside of Mahomes and Josh Allen, what massive trade for QBs, whether it be the draft or existing starters have panned out?
@riobravo4454
@riobravo4454 Ай бұрын
I agree… no way I would give up the 2025 1st
@jamierask8527
@jamierask8527 Ай бұрын
It could NEVER cost too much for a franchise qb. Thor wants stuff CHEAP and that's NOT how it works to get your qb for the next decade...lol
@coopdog9524
@coopdog9524 Ай бұрын
If you're not willing to give up a future 1st for your qb of the future, a top 4 qb in this draft then you aren't really that serious. Next year's 1st is a small price to pay for a potential franchise changing quarterback for years to come. Time to take a chance.
@AgingHealer
@AgingHealer Ай бұрын
Thor isn’t still all in on Malik Willis???
@Yamchas-corpse
@Yamchas-corpse Ай бұрын
He’d make an excellent agent. He’s a hype guy.
@jonathan45732
@jonathan45732 Ай бұрын
Just saw the commanders scouts/coaches dapping each other up after Maye’s pro day throwing session…… Good chance Maye is gone at 2 which leaves us at Daniels at 3 or McCarthy at 4. BUT McCown was the first coach to talk to Maye after the pro day and he was dapping him up as well 🤔 man this draft is gonna be crazy……
@Razorbacks1
@Razorbacks1 Ай бұрын
Daniels at 3!
@bretttaylor3787
@bretttaylor3787 Ай бұрын
I can't think of a reason to not move up. Edit: Ok, Thor is making some sense. 🤔
@electric7508
@electric7508 Ай бұрын
I don't like the idea of staying put, cause all of the good QBs would be gone by then. I think the ones that don't like trading up are just scared. If you see a QB you really like and want, then you need to try and get him instead of being hesitant to get something you really want.
@laserchiefwankoo204
@laserchiefwankoo204 Ай бұрын
We can go 1 yr with out a 1st rd pick for a qb koc wants if need be.
@ICFJAY
@ICFJAY Ай бұрын
Use the first draft pick for best player available(maybe CB) and 23 for Oline. Trade up into the top of the second round and draft Michael Penix Jr
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 Ай бұрын
CB won't be best available at pick 11. Neither will DT. They will have to trade back if they want those teo positions. Trade back a couple slots.
@Rick-jg3vq
@Rick-jg3vq Ай бұрын
You guys are nuts if you think the cardinals are going to trade pick 4 for the Vikings 11 and 23rd. That is so unrealistic that you guys are a joke.
@bendanielson848
@bendanielson848 Ай бұрын
I knew it was Charles Johnson after the second clue!
@Bubbs420
@Bubbs420 Ай бұрын
Do whatever it takes does any one care what the chiefs gave to trade up for more mahomes or what the bills traded up for allen being cheap on the most important positions in sports is Ludacris figure it out and take the shot now or never
@deanmortenson8837
@deanmortenson8837 Ай бұрын
Hey Thor!!! SKOL Vikings
@discgolf2479
@discgolf2479 Ай бұрын
What funny is you congratulate thor, like JJ has already been selected in the top 5 Who remembers will levis last year, and the videos of him just sitting around,
@tmcdwldr
@tmcdwldr Ай бұрын
Real life trade: think outside the box: 11, 23 and 2026 1st rounder still better than anything Denver could from a picks perspective Denver speculation that 12, 2025 and 2026 1st rounders would be somehow enough. This way Vikings still maintain 2025 1st rounder and it is Still a Godfater offer. The only way Denvers is close is if they throw in their top corner or other player of value.
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 Ай бұрын
Broncos offer here is equivelant to a 1st this year and two future 2nds since future picks are valued a roumd later. They would have to offer alot more to beat our offer in this scenario.
@respectedworlock5223
@respectedworlock5223 Ай бұрын
Judd not guessing is so funny to me. Rule change suggestion: if neither gets it legitimately the point goes either to the clue giver or neither participant gets it
@0175gre
@0175gre Ай бұрын
Nice to get an honest assessment of how bad this team will be this year, although inthink it will be bottom 5, not bottom 10
@clintonreisig
@clintonreisig Ай бұрын
No 4 is the sweet spot
@First_and_skol
@First_and_skol Ай бұрын
ARI would make this trade in a split second since they'd take MHJ at #5 and essentially get a free added R1 out of it when they would have still gotten their guy at #4. As for us, the question is whether you believe Darnold could ascent to a Kirk-like level in the next 2 years. That would make him the same age as Kirk when we first signed him. I'd rather gamble on having a Kirk-like QB who's already proven himself in the NFL. Take MHJ at #4 then go RB, DT, CB, and G with R4,R4,R5,R5. Last 3 picks are fliers and a kicker for competition. If you think MHJ is a likely HOFer based on size, skill, and production, then take him. Last time we had 2 HOF receivers on the same team we were 1 FG away from going to the SB (98). It's a passing league, and it's even harder on defenses now. Who's going to throw to them? Darnold, or the next guy. Mayfield and Goff were both close to a SB last year, and Purdy did go. Imagine if Darnold impresses and we re-sign him for half of what we would have paid Kirk AND we have JJ, MHJ, Addison, Hock, re-built trenches, and a great D by 2025. If Darnold doesn't impress, you still have all of the above without your QBOTF. Then find him in 2025. You'll have your 1st rounder and 100+ mil in FA cash. Turns out the HOF and Pro Bowl are filled with QBs of nearly every year going back to 1960.
@steveg3265
@steveg3265 Ай бұрын
If the top 3 draft teams go QB, wouldn't AZ or LAC be in the driver seat to get a massive haul? There are 3-4 teams in that situation wanting a QB and likely somewhat desperate to get JJ. Just my opinion, 2025 1st is gone if we move up to 4 or 5.
@caesaraugustus784
@caesaraugustus784 Ай бұрын
They better get “their guy”, I don’t want the qb they see as the best for the team not coming to MN because we didn’t throw in an extra pick (on top the 2 1st rounders this year). Don’t make the excuse for yourself on “not getting your guy”. Not to mention, other teams are also desperate for a qb
@tmcdwldr
@tmcdwldr Ай бұрын
Play with the mocks more you keep submitting your fair trade and it will approve 2nd or 3rd try with no changes.
@Razorbacks1
@Razorbacks1 Ай бұрын
Cam Little is the best field goal kicker in the draft. To pass him in the 6th or 7th round is idiotic. Accuracy and able to kick it from 60+.
@Icemanlb
@Icemanlb Ай бұрын
Judd was wrong about Audie Cole be played at US Bank stadium.
@GhettoLenin
@GhettoLenin Ай бұрын
If the Vikings trade 3 first round picks for an unknown they got fleeced. Do you expect anything good to happen to this franchise? Don’t hold your breath
@Jestin612
@Jestin612 Ай бұрын
🥱
@GhettoLenin
@GhettoLenin Ай бұрын
@@Jestin612 🤡
@donaldwehland1010
@donaldwehland1010 Ай бұрын
cough cough, i purchased McCarthy's stock early on ... i was happy to get him in the 2nd round on the mock draft boards, i enjoyed trading back from 11 2 or 3 times picking up more picks . i watched how he rose up through ranks to now we might not be able to afford him.
@chazaqs9109
@chazaqs9109 Ай бұрын
Trey Lance and Zach Wilson both flew up boards like that too. Perhaps a warning.
@donaldwehland1010
@donaldwehland1010 Ай бұрын
@@chazaqs9109 that is very interesting and i do not 100% think mcCarthy is the best thing since sliced bread.... i wonder which of the QBs will perform as expected, although i have for a sometime felt that the landing spot has more to do with it than some think
@donnagreene7766
@donnagreene7766 Ай бұрын
People do not do their research. Lance was never offered a Power 5 QB position. Yet SF traded up to #3. That was terrible for Lance and the 49ers coach. Money wasted. I felt for Lance, not for 49ers.@@chazaqs9109
@GrumpyBugger.
@GrumpyBugger. Ай бұрын
Thor is talking like they are the only ones wanting to trade up lol
@secretsq100
@secretsq100 Ай бұрын
Mackey you did not have this stance 3-4 weeks ago. I said 2months ago that the Vikings should only give 11 and 23 this year other than that they should just wait. You guys have been pushing trade up at all cost for months now. Now Mackey is saying he always said that. Look the Vikings don’t necessarily need a QB this year. Like I also said weeks ago is this will be a 4-13 year that’s okay. Because next year is our year!
@maxking520
@maxking520 Ай бұрын
The only issue I have with his take is that he assumes Vikings value all 3 quarterbacks the same which is there is zero chance that’s the case.
@klohr311
@klohr311 Ай бұрын
packers were 4-12 in 91 when ron wolf took over and trade and gamble on farve and the rest is history. if eliot follow ted thompson and brian gutey, he will draft a qb instead of trading down.
@yolo25000
@yolo25000 Ай бұрын
Does Thor work for the McCarthy family. He's like a hype man for JJ. I'm fully expecting him to say yeaaaaah BOi !!!
@kameronerdman5870
@kameronerdman5870 Ай бұрын
Judds face when the random viking of the week was revealed🤣🤣🤣
@kevinvonderscher3971
@kevinvonderscher3971 Ай бұрын
Dig the purple daily but lots of cards fans down here in the desert are laughing at all this ! The deal would be #11 , #23 & #1 in 2025 . And that’s just to start . If it’s draft day & cards are on the clock the Vikings will have to cough up even more .
@Saltyahole
@Saltyahole Ай бұрын
Lmfao I bet you’re wrong
@brianhammond2832
@brianhammond2832 Ай бұрын
If the Patriots pick a quarterback at 3 the Vikings will likely be trading against the Giants for the 4th pick and just in case some of you don’t understand 6 and 47 is a lot better than 11 and 23
@mattswanson1189
@mattswanson1189 Ай бұрын
Can we get a special appearance from the OLine Committee at the draft party? That would be next level to get the Rhino out there.
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