Why Miroku is Better Than Browning.

[@davidb091961]

I am currently shooting a "Charles Daly" built by Miroku before Browning gained access to assembly line. It is a fine handling shotgun.

[@davetart7029]

I have a miroku mk70 grade 5 ,I bought it second hand 35 years ago,you can have it when I'm dead and not until, solid,reliable, cheap for the quality, and it feels like it was made for me,tad heavy in my later years but it's a fine shotgun,

[@danielmullally2790]

I was a beretta sliver pigeon lad and then I got a mk38 sporter and havnt looked back solid gun, fixed choke and in my opinion probably one of the best trap guns

[@Tomthesaiyan]

Miroku all the way! does what it says on the tin! *A Shooters Gun For Shooters* that and it handle's just as good as guns 3 to 4 times as much as it! Simple and effective! MK 38 Grade 5 trap is truly different class! best handling guns out of the box for little to no money! plus they seem to be getting niche now! haha.

[@dominicjohnson8427]

My mk38 grade 5 is stunning! I fall in love it every time I take it out the cabinet

[@alanbowen7495]

I mounted a new.mk38 grade 5 two weeks ago and fell in love it just fitted now currently saving to part ex my browning ultra

[@wholeNwon]

Jon, seems like you may have had a drink or two...then, again, maybe I have, too. Stay safe!

[@FeralTuckerFella]

Hey Jon. I think Aussie stocks might be different. The Mk10 and ML11 have palm swells. The MK38 is a beast with a few stock options too.

[@pauleasthope8309]

Really boils down to which stock and engraving you want . I've got a 525 laminate because that's the one I like best

[@troublington]

You lost me at the Miroku is "more woke"! I'm selling mine today.

[@tomparker962]

Lol what does more woke mean?

[@steveleach4973]

Look at how many comments he got. There are your answers!

[@Plainsimple67]

In gun industry, they woke up and made a better shotgun!!😂

[@the45er]

Go WOKE……Go BROKE!

[@Nrussell11]

Woke means "hip" in this context, my man. As in "popular"

[@RetrieverTrainingAlone]

Excellent! I have 2 Browning Citori I purchased used in the 1980s with 26 inch barrels. 40 years later they are still my go-to bird hunting shotguns.

[@AaronDav-nq8hk]

The official spelling of John's description of browning's advanced technology @ 5min 30 is 'Teflonchromiumimblyimblemelmkkdedum' Hope this helps ;) Also on a more serious note, i live in Australia and own a Miroku Mk10 Grade 3 which does have a palm swell, maybe these are not available in the UK? love the gun!!! great video as always!

[@zman4116]

Do you know of any good gun shops to deal with in Oz ?

[@AaronDav-nq8hk]

@@zman4116 Safari firearms have always been good to deal with.

[@TacticalPlumber]

Swapped from beretta to try a miroku last year, picked up a mk38 teague sporter, swapped the trap forend to a shnable and teague 3/8 & 3/8 titanium chokes, honestly say i doubt i’ll ever part with it. Nothing it cant put down and all for under 2k

[@keithtoohey5822]

Let's Go Mountaineers!!!

[@danhill6333]

Wondering if anyone would recognize that. 👍

[@parasleonidas2833]

Miroku give you more for your money, good handling, good balance and simple features that make them a little more pretty. My little old sporter came with a fiddle back oiled stock with swept back pistol grip and black heel plate, nice chequering. and a tear drop. The forend has tulip end, and the chequering was better design with the four pointed finger design would be two fingers below the forend as opposed to two on each side. All this for £350, Miroku started to take the market, its no wonder browning took them over. Dont forget if you buy one, have the chokes regulated and trigger pulls reset, I set mine at 31/2 lbs IF you want to fine tune your gun Happy days and good luck shooting.

[@johnhouldsworth5386]

I own a browning 525 grade 5 prestige plus super sport,the engraving is as good as the mk 38 any day......browning all the way....stay safe John..

[@vtv8man]

I have a ML11 in Australia (bought it for my son) and it has a palm swell over here. Thanks for the video ! Love the channel.

[@tedlyhughes2039]

Hi I have both a mk60 hp and a b525 in 28 gauge... And I must say I love them both.. I did have a b725 hunter with excellent wood on it but it's not as nice as my mk60 hp... Not by a long shot

[@bubbajones5905]

Browning North America has a lot to answer for. Not only are Miroku guns blocked from entry, the more attractive Browning models such as the Heritage, B525, B725 Black Gold, B725 UK Premium, Ultra XS are also not imported. North America is the largest sporting arms market in the world and we get the least attractive guns. I can't imagine what Browning is thinking.

[@billlorenz6623]

I absolutely agree with you. There isn't a single Browning gun made for the American market that I want. They look awful! That's why I stick to the Belgian Brownings.

[@jrmcg2126]

I watch all of your videos, officially subscribed when I saw the Mountaineer hat. Historically the best rifle team in college sports. Let’s Go!

[@delclark3230]

Crazy review. I mainly shoot sporting clays and I have a Miroku mk70 Sporter Grade 5 (beautiful wood) and have just bought a new Browning B25 sporter (as a back up since stupidly selling my Citori), they both seem to handle/shoot the same, I do like my Browning, great gun.. but i LOVE my Miroku.

[@KenDaMastuh]

I can see where the "Miroku might be better finished than a Browning" argument would come from since, at least here in the U.S., I heard the same rumor floating around for the Winchester 101 vs. the Nikko/ Kodensha branded guns (especially in wood quality). If Miroku guns were offered here though (don't think that will happen with the non-compete agreement they have here, plus the ubiquity of the Browning name), I'd probably own one myself over the Browning I have right now.

[@karamich75]

The Miroku looks much better for my own taste... I have a Cynergy composite feather and I think Miroku made it with a Browning logo...

[@219garry]

It boils down to what you can resell it for. People here in the US never talk about Miroku.

[@esquad5406]

Miroku makes or made a real nice Colt clone back in the day. As well as some 1911's and M-16's for there defence force. As well as a fair amount of barreled actions for custom sporting rifles.

[@MrVaghag]

Pick up both, enjoy the one that feels good for you. It’s lovely to have the choice ❤️ thank you for the content, I really enjoy it 👍🏼

[@anttikuosa8973]

I have a Browning Ultra XS and a Miroku 800. I like them both. Miroku is 1/1 and 3/4 choked. It kills so good if you ar shooting as you should.

[@cliveh6015]

Loved it, from a Miroku owner 😋

[@jac2275]

I really enjoyed seing your video. I also understand to be "alternative" as per your words. That is why I only shoot side by side shotguns both for game and clays all dated back to the 20 to 40s. This Browning/Miroku video was really needed Thanks so much!

[@jamiecollins7794]

I've got a MK11 Grade 3 great gun why did I buy a Miroku? Because of what was available it was the best fit. Only complaint is for the near 3K price tag they don't come supplied with a hard case.

[@Minoan1977]

My MK10 Grade 5 came in a cardboard box. Didn't bother me because that was something Miroku always (until the last couple on years) did.

[@vtv8man]

I bought a ML11 recently for my son who is getting into the sport and shoots right handed . I am thinking I also need my own gun and was thinking of getting another ML1- in left hand for me... but need to save up !

[@isabellesgaming9161]

Love the videos but how about comparing 4 manufacturers And make Winchester one of them as a Winchester lover (I like to be different) Compare handling and price.

[@alanbrudenell4918]

I bought my first brand new Miroku back in 1986 I’ve had other guns but still own it along with 2 other Mirokus my grade 5 3800 32 inch fixed choke is sublime

[@dannym670]

I've just bought a grade 3 3800, it's a keeper!!

[@waynemacgregor5614]

My skeet gun is a Miroku Mk70 in 20ga with 30 inch tubes. I like the stock measurements better than the current Brownings. I also own a Browning CSX in 20ga with 30 inch barrels as well. The guns are very similar overall with some key differences: The Browning has an adjustable trigger, the Miroku does not. The Browning has a ventilated barrel attachment, the Miroku does not. The Miroku is fitted with standard Invector chokes (Angle Ports), the Browning utilizes Invector plus (Midas). The Browning came with a mid bead, the Miroku did not (I added one). The Rail on the Browning is wider than the Miroku. The receiver on the Browning is all black with gold lettering. The Miroku has a white (chrome) receiver with some tasteful, albeit, machine engraving. The Miroku came with a plain plastic butt plate (replaced by a Kickeez pad), the Browning came with an "Inflex 2" pad. So how do they differ? The Miroku is slightly lighter and livelier and balances closer to the hinge pin. The Browning tends to be slightly nose-heavy. Overall, I shoot the Miroku a little better. There aren't many of them in America and I get a lot of "what's that" comments about the gun. Finally the wood on the Miroku is quite a bit better than the Browning.

[@rodneyzurek4900]

No experience with a Miroku but have problems with both my Brownings. And ONCE THEY SELL THE GUN THE FACTORY SERVICE DOES. NOT WANT TO KNOW YOU! Browning service is the worst I’ve ever SEEN , After you buy the gun YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN! I also have 2 BERETTAS. CANNOT BEAT THEIR AFTER SALE CARE!

[@MrSluby]

Absolutely typical I've just applied for my licence and all this had kicked off with social distancing 😤 would love a miroku

[@CM-tk3je]

I have to say that I own both Miroku and Browning shotguns but I bought a Miroku High Pheasant in 2018 and god I love it, just clean kills on clays or game and handles like a dream with its 32” fixed choke barrels.

[@realvictim]

I went with 525 precisely because at the time I was in the market and looking for a new Sporting OU I knew very little about modern shotguns! I certainly had no experience with a range of guns to form a personal preference. Thus, I went with what was popular and ubiquitous, what other people had written plus advice from Gun Shops (dangerous, I know ;) ). If I knew then what I know now, would I have made a different choice ? Would I have gone for Miroku ? Probably not. Thanks for keeping up the output to keep us informed and entertained in strange times, much appreciated. Hey look, my Club has reopened ! I'll see you on the Stands, at a safe distance, bottle of handsan...

[@sorrysirmygunisoneba]

Great video as always! Would you say SxS Mirokus are as good as their under and overs? Or is Aya a better make to go for in the same price bracket?

[@alpertungag4446]

You speak very fast, I don't understand but I like this channel

[@mchughcb]

We get grade 3 Miroku in Australia. Anyway after 10 minutes of review the answer is the Benelli 828U lmao!

[@bradmorrison9027]

I Have A Pre Browning (early 1970's) Miroku, and I'm in love.

[@martinclark5267]

Enjoyed your take on both of these makers, but please have a hat on or off.

[@youneszreika]

They’re very popular in Australia 🇦🇺

[@tomparker962]

Yes cos like I always say Australia is like a British America haha

[@willt3861]

Thanks for clearing that up !! 🤪

[@konstantinosdm4391]

I own a miroku mk10, a browning 525 gr3 and a browning ultra xs prestige amongst other guns, all of them are superb,especially the xs prestige, I would like your thoughts on that gun

[@84mountaineer]

Would love to see a browning BSS review

[@evanparkinson7525]

How bloody dare you! ;-) Interesting video... I suppose with both Browning and Miroku (and any manufacturer) it boils down to the one gun that ticks the most boxes or is closest to your dream gun (within your budget). For me personally Browning ticks more boxes; I have bought the sporter version of the Browning B525 Shadow. I like the understated black action, the engraving is acceptable but not as nice as the engraving on some Miroku's... but it's black. I love the higher grade wood... What can I say, I love a nice piece of wood. I love how well made the Browning is, not that the Miroku isn't. I think if it was between a standard 525 and a Miroku I would find it harder to choose. How would you compare Belgian made Brownings and Miroku?

[@imranulmulk7832]

What will you recommend miroku or browning ?

[@bartram33]

The only argument for me is Beretta or Browning/Miroku . Browning wins every time. I’ve battered my ultra xs unmercifully for the last 4 years and it has never misfired or failed to eject, not once! And bonus, still looks good.

[@thefirefox-bx3mx]

I own 12ga 3inch magnum A5 Miroku ( Browning) It is superbly machined.

[@stevenlord782]

Anyone got any info on the miroku high pheasant 2 please. Specs, pricing and availability dates? Thank you.

[@matthewlardner5328]

@Steven Lord I have a High pheasant 20 bore. I love it ! It has 32” barrels with fixed chokes 3/4 and Full. I am currently having multi chokes fitted to cover steel shot but to also give me a few more options for closer shots. I have cleanly shot some very spectacular high, January pheasants. It kills long range ( true 70-80 yard) birds as if they had flown into a barn door. I have also cleanly missed as many! The Beauty of having tight chokes on a small bore gun is that you either hit stone dead or miss altogether! No one wants to prick birds. At closer range however, when you do hit your target, you can do a little too much damage. Not every shoot you go on will have stratospheric birds, regular partridge and pheasant shoots will present fantastic 30-40 yard birds and I believe a less choked gun is better suited to these targets! Now that I have added the multi chokes of 1/2, 1/2, 3/4 and Full I have a gun that can be used for all my shooting needs. I love it. The one other bit of advice that I think is key, is, whatever you have, make sure it’s fitted to you 👍🏻👍🏻

[@stevenlord782]

Hi Mathew. I have the Mk38 trap grade 5 choked 3/4 full & agree with you on the every point there. Like you I am too looking at getting mine opened up for steel and also you do have to pick some longer birds as anything 40 off yards does tend to get hit hard. All the very to you for the coming season. 👍

[@williamwalter4441]

Love the WVU Rifle Team cap- Go Mountaineers! PS I also have a Miroku- nice gun from the early 70's.

[@Hoonz81]

I have a mk70 ... I'm the black sheep of the club ahahaha ... in the market for a mk10 deluxe gr5

[@Skilpadjie1]

So the Browning B725's we get in South Africa. The Sporter 2's have on the barrels engraved Made in Japan.

[@grahamedwards9920]

Tried both and preferred the Browning. Now got 3 in 12 - 20 + 28g.

[@oldguysrockon]

Great video. I really do well with my Mk 38. It would be better if i had a miroku ball cap to wear when shooting.

[@thomashillagri515]

Loving the videos as always. Never let me down with a good video. Keep it up!!!!!

[@jeffreylocke8808]

What model Miroku is the 725 Feather 12 gauge over and under? The one that weighs 6 pounds and 3 ounces or under 7 pounds.

[@saadzia6007]

No different in both the brands because the same factory make them both with different Browning and miroku names. However browning brand is more popular Europe and Asia and miroku is only in united kingdom as for as I am aware of. Thanks for sharing these information with us anyhow.

[@snippidippi]

Miroku can be bought in many European country's

[@craigrobinson8039]

Everywhere in Oz. Very popular as club guns as they are bombproof.

[@saadzia6007]

@@craigrobinson8039 both are excellent guns and manufacturers. But Alas!I cannot afford both of them. Thus I should stick to my Baikal MP 27 poor man browning. Thanks

[@redduc9523]

Exactly what I thought! Thanks for the vid

[@Peter-976]

Sounds to me like you have a problem making a decision about anything! My God man, make up your mind.

[@hawkeyed77]

Bit the bullet, I have the Miroku Mk 70 palm swell Grade 5 and a Browning 525 with at least grade 3 wood, happy days !

[@tomzaronias4937]

Browning mate is the best you like it or not

[@byronusagi]

hard to find a miroku in US i want one so bad

[@cockedandlocked9765]

If you look at the guns international website, go to shotguns for sale under Charles Daly, there are some really nice ones made Miroku

[@MartianBuddy]

Does miroku still make A5? Im interested in Miroku guns

[@stepanmikulica]

I would love to have a Miroku, but due to some importing deals, only Brownings are available here :/.

[@dankruger2890]

I have a Browning Citori made in 2000 and technically I think its a Miroku because it just smashes the clays.

[@cbro553]

The Miroku would be more to my taste, but being that I'm in the USA, I don't really have the choice. You can't get a new Browning with a non-vented mid rib, standard engraving and a classic checkering pattern over here anymore. Plus, their checkering has taken a serious nosedive in recent years.

[@tgsoutdoors]

I do think I should find out the logistics on importing a container of guns - models you can't get and old stuff we see as worthless

[@cbro553]

​@@tgsoutdoors​Miroku SxS imported to the UK in the 70's and 80's would probably triple their value over here. Browning had these made as the "BSS" in US spec, and they are very popular. A BSS in good condition will fetch 2 grand.

[@clydehays850]

Wish you would!

[@grahamsimpkins1540]

Both are great guns brands, but Browning just have the Edge on them.

[@Zefferum]

Japanese manners and attitude makes me think that maybe they would actually put the better parts in the "gun for someone else" though I agree I would choose a miroku

[@IndianaHermes]

I see your point, but I think pride in their reputation, plus their work ethic and reverence of traditional craftsmanship are things to consider when it comes to finish and assembly.

[@nzmarkb8713]

Oh you don’t know the Japanese as well as you think🤔. That’s what they would have you believe

[@herrmauser1066]

Just wait untill Miroku launches a Boss/Woodward style action over and under. Perazzi, Kemen,, Antoni Zoli, Salvanelli, etc etc. will get some stiff competition.

[@TeensierPython]

Never seen a miroku in the US. Might not have noticed? Probably can’t import them because browning is already importing them?

[@SimplyRed66]

Browning are great guns,because they are made by Miroku.

[@colinmcpeak2773]

From Berkeley Springs, WV! Let’s Go Mountaineers!

[@tonyclifton2648]

From a US perspective, we don't have to choose between the two....it's a Brownie or some other brand altogether The UK has a choice between the two and the UK gets better Browning models to choose from. Bottom line, they're guns...buy a bunch.

[@parrisgeorge9708]

There's a place in Millbrook NY that Imports the Miroku guns. I was on their site yesterday due to watching these videos :)

[@NotALot-xm6gz]

Selling my MK38 was the most stupid thing I ever did and I’ve did some crazy crap when I was younger.

[@petermitchell9551]

hi john had my mk 60 to teauge for the chokes ajusting and had it reproofed to take hp steel

[@danmcn7343]

Do you mind me asking how much did that cost

[@petermitchell9551]

@@danmcn7343 reproof was£18 choke ajustment was£70 then shipping £30 each way then whatever your local gun shop wants mine did not charge

[@petermitchell9551]

it took about four weeks

[@danmcn7343]

@@petermitchell9551 thanks Peter. Now looks like steel coming this way I maybe even just open the choke to 3/8

[@petermitchell9551]

@@danmcn7343 thats what mine was done to 3/8 both barrels and it shoots brill infact had afew lads wanting to buy but dont want to pay the money i would take when you factor in the price of gun in first place the the work done

[@DMX-PAT]

Have you ever shot a Nikko

[@fullchoke01]

Excellent guns. I have 2 and love them more than just about anything on market today

[@MarkMphonoman]

Believe it or not, I definitely get the points you are trying to make. 😂

[@markh7288]

I had a Miroku MK38 which I just sold. I used to get a problem once or twice a day where the second barrel didn’t cock. I was told that I mustn’t be releasing the trigger fully. It never happens with my Beretta.

[@davidpyper82]

Just heading out with my miroku

[@epetis]

1. Is this a video about you explaining the difference between those 2 brands or is this a video about the difference about those 2 brands? 2. Hire a professional videographer. 3. When showcasing something ( especially an item ) throw some lights on it… that is the point… so the audience can see what the hell you are showing and what is the difference.

[@lorendixon3093]

We can’t get them in the USA wish one day

[@jonathanweber4820]

Hello Jon, how does someone from the USA get ahold of a Miroku MK60 Grade 1?

[@parrisgeorge9708]

I don't know about grade 1 but I was on a gunshop site from Millbrook NY yesterday that's got I believe grade 3 and grade 5's The videos have me looking at new or at least additional target guns.

[@tomparker962]

@@parrisgeorge9708 hey buddy do you know why browning heritage doesn't have where it was made on it and the 525 does?

[@dennisobrien2578]

Who invented the damb thing?

[@tomparker962]

Can anyone tell me why browning heritage doesn't have where it's made written on it unlike the 525 that says made in Belgium????????

[@tgsoutdoors]

Does a 525 day made in Belgium?

[@dragopajtak7254]

I have miroku mk38 trap gun... fixed chokes, it's great gun.

[@discopartissani]

MIROKU! Pronounced in English: Me Rockoo. Certainly not Marookoo 😂😂😂😂

[@davidpringle1452]

Stick your hat back on Mountainer. Almost Heaven

[@John1911]

Informative.

[@fakelovegaming664]

Hi

[@shawn7mm]

What's your connection with WVU ?

[@paulsherrod1365]

After ww ll the USA and the allies helped retool Japan . And Browning helped then in modern design. Where would they be left to them selves?

[@tanyano9]

So why can't we have a MK11 in the uk?

[@Jolly56Roger]

Browning XS pro best to me

[@anthonyrussomanno1540]

All I’m going to say is I’ll take the Browning

[@yareyare_dechi]

so miroku is better than browning because hipster? lol i own a miroku 3000, but thats because its was going for a great deal, and also im a massive weeb

[@ziminarblaze9670]

Browning is better.

[@scottkessler186]

Telfon coated quantum encabulator you mean.

[@bsenalaska]

I agree and Browning is overpriced to be an American Company but their products are not even made in America 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@snippidippi]

Isn't miroku browning?

[@tomparker962]

Yes but to still keep there reps intact they still keep there differences and names on each side of the fence