Why Necrolord for PvP? Frost DK Shadowlands Beta - Hidden Power

[@Codyobjj]

Bring back the big curly mustache from the Legion days Hazzed!

[@darksword1337]

Deff been thinking about it man!

[@jaypietersen6093]

Subbed just for the poke at Biceps

[@DTSoR]

This is the first season in my 14year+ wow gaming experience im going for Glad! Hope you keep us updated on Frost/UH and what is best etc. through out the first season

[@tristanm7434]

I remember the good ol days when you had the same moustache as your character...it needs to make an appearance for shadowlands!

[@_Kere_]

Oh man what a BEAUTIFUL day, what..a...beautiful...day. I just found out that I have a great equilibrium so I FINALLY dont gotta worry about being "off balance" 😎😎😎

[@maleficzone2776]

How’s dmg looking after the obliterate and pillar nerf?

[@JamesAndrewA]

I find it funny right after the conduit change my planned build ended up the exact same as what your video showed. One thing though, without weapon swapping are you not finding it nearly impossible to maintain stacks of razorice on a target? Maintaining it with GA is cool with wep swapping, but actually building it up with GA seems like a lot of work and wait and a reduction of overall damage from not using FSs for the burst window. Even then, wouldn't not getting GA and just swapping back to razor ice to reapply be much more optimal than using GA? I honestly don't like how wep swapping seems like it's going to be mandatory. Already with the unpruneing my FDK has gone from idiotproof to the point a cat can play it, to playing piano. With the new spells and 4 weapon swap macros of I am already at 28 active buttons in pvp.

[@darksword1337]

Weapon swapping got the big AX. If im doing double DPS vs double dps and doing a faster match. Ill take RW. Generally use the excess RP for healing. The GA build is mainly for healer settings where you will have the time. Hopefully there won't be so many oneshots by the time shadowlands launch happens that its easier to use.

[@JamesAndrewA]

@@darksword1337 What do you mean it got the AX? You are fining pvp in ShadowLands currently very oneshot bursty?

[@darksword1337]

@@JamesAndrewA 30 second debuff on weapon enchant effects. "oof" Yea, there is still currently a lot of overturned damage for many classes atm. Seen arcane hitting 50k+ "we have 30k health" seen rogues one shot healers out of strealth. Right now, Double priest in 3's Mindgames rotation is broken. A lot of stuff thats like, 'that can't make it" lol

[@JamesAndrewA]

@@darksword1337 So just so I understand, now if I stack 5 razor ices on a dude, then swap to my meaty 2h, I can't get a fallen crusader proc until 30 sec since switch? Just want to be sure I understand. Or vice versa, I swap from fallen to Razor ice and I can't put a stack on until 30 sec since my last fallen proc?

[@darksword1337]

@@JamesAndrewA Yea, thats right.

[@nestorchua9089]

Would that covenant also be good for Pve? Dungeons - raids

[@Draethar]

Pretty sure they added a 30 second cooldown debuff to weapon swapping Runeforges. It's call off balance or unbalanced. Check it.

[@alex-bp4co]

what is that green shadow hand who is dealing dmg?

[@parztv8190]

Another great vid man. Glad to see necrolord is in a better place cause I for sure wasn't going night fae lol

[@Hurin170]

since the oblit leggo nerf and the buff to the remorseless leggo wouldn't gathering storm be better than glacial advance?

[@darksword1337]

In terms of cleave damage would be strong but, single target. 15% frost damage scaling on oblits that deal 60% of your damage will be stronger.

[@Hurin170]

@@darksword1337 what about the abom limb conduit, not worth taking over the other two?

[@soneragaming5298]

Thanks for the video Hazzed. I still dont know what to main in Shadowlands, but your 2handed frost dk videos gets me very hyped.

[@darksword1337]

Going to be a fun choice for sure!

[@Abyssalwave]

Very insulting towards Biceps who helps create a ton of the resources that help you and many others. He also did an incredible job representing our community and class with Atlas and Miniaug so maybe you should be more thankful towards him for all he's done.

[@Kalrell]

Damn Straight!

[@darksword1337]

Show proof of the dude lying through his teeth. "that's disrespectful" Heres a tip. DON'T lie. For the record, Im just getting started.

[@Mandl0001]

​@@darksword1337 I'm honestly not even sure how the two statements are contradictory. 2H frost hasn't been a thing since WoD; as a result, yes, it hasn't been a thing for "so long". Biceps having played it means he played either WoD or MoP. As for the "more popular one", that's straight up strawman territory from you considering that in PvE, 2H frost was _never_ optimal. Ever. You should know this, and yet you decided to take a comment in a PvE thread, aimed at a discussion on pure PvE matters, and take it completely out of context for clickbait purposes. You deciding to pick somebody's words out of context and lash out just shows the quality and lack of constructive nature of this channel.

[@darksword1337]

@@Mandl0001 Can't make you boys eat these words real soon lol

[@trevorwoodall4344]

@@Mandl0001 people who get hardstuck at 1.5k in the NA ladder have to find someone else to blame for their problems i guess. No clue why Hazzed would ever attack biceps as biceps has done a MASSIVE amount of work for the DK community (just look at how popular both the frost & unholy guides are over at wowhead) as well as the wow community in general.

[@tuomaslunden4848]

Many PvP players might be after the Koltira's legendary to buff Obliterates, however, this can be problematic to some people, because the recipe drops from a Raid boss (Sludgefist).

[@darksword1337]

True but, i can see it not being to bad. Especially if they make it drop in lfr.

[@tuomaslunden4848]

@@darksword1337 That is true IF legos can drop also from LFR.. It would make sense because some recipes are dropping from dungeons anyway. I guess the drop chance will get higher in harder content, at least it would make sense. In addition, Koltira and Frozen champion legos were nerfed, and biting cold was buffed. How these will affect to the legendary choise for PvP, I do not have idea, but what you think Hazzed?

[@maleficzone2776]

I think you need a bigger sword 😂

[@darksword1337]

I DO!!!!

[@ag0n1an]

It's not the size, it's how you use it.

[@Joeyywow]

Name of sword ? Thx :)

[@deadeus5248]

@@Joeyywow Armageddon naxaramas lich kinh

[@hvdiv17]

conduits are now tied to ilvl in shadowlands so if you are only ilvl 190 thats rank 4 conduits you can use.i dont like playing a class where you damage is tied to conduits.

[@darksword1337]

Yea, the system doesn't seem to be very popular.

[@hvdiv17]

@@darksword1337 blizzard just needs to remove the soulbind system. the expansion would be so great with just covenant abilities and legendaries.

[@whiteorangesportster]

Great video man, excellent points! Will we be able to see what covenants the other team is running before the arena match starts?

[@JohnyyTsunami]

does 2H do the most damage for frost DK?

[@nickbusby8139]

The title says necrolord for PVP. How do you feel about necrolord in PVE? I'm wanting to have my cake and eat it, too. Night Fae seems like an ok all around pick. Plus, the travel form is a nice quality of life. But, in combat, it's a mediocre mobility ability. What frost lacks in mobility makes up in it's ability to limit others' mobility. A-limb adds to that and puts a BIG smile on my face. I respect your opinion and would like to hear what your thoughts are of necrolord in PVE.

[@stuff4812]

well the change they did to abomination limb gave it some bumps in pve so it might be alright in pve. May not be the best but i doubr night fae will be very good in pvp outside of very specific comps.

[@zack-sj3fr]

How are you my man? Good vid.

[@Kristers_K]

Rofl, that trade chat in the background, '' LF big tiddy egirl pls someone pls'' xD Is that what beta testing is? lol Anyway, great video man, really love your content, since you're so devoted to a single class +1 respect :)

[@darksword1337]

OMG LOL!! Dang it trade chat

[@dmargjr]

is this good for pve as well??

[@nivis1943]

Been doing the Necrolord Campaign for necrolords... JUST how much campaign do i need to do to unlock this bad boi.. im like 15 quests in so far

[@darksword1337]

Im not 100% sure. I did all of them and then did the quest to unlock it but, i remember seeing the quest sooner.

[@BasedChadman]

Well it's official. Off balance debuff made me switch to arms warrior for my main this xpac.

[@darksword1337]

Haha yea, seems a bit wild to take away the sanguine heal.

[@BasedChadman]

@@darksword1337 Just unfortunate they created all these new runeforges that will serve absolutely no purpose. Fdk is a spec that lacks natural complexity and generally relies on other systems to have depth, and we finally had something to further benefit us for playing more mechanically, and they take it all away. Really sucks because I want to love it so much more than I do. I'll definitely still gear one out to see how it feels, and 2h is certainly going to be thematically fun at the very least.

[@darksword1337]

@@BasedChadman True at the same time, outside of the DW 2h pvp part. The pve side of it was looking really broken.

[@ericbernardeszan]

which is better now for pvp 2hd or dw?

[@greim3516]

Hazzed do you stream on Twitch? or maybe PATREON so I can donate to my fellow dk?

[@darksword1337]

Maybe one day! haha

[@xxan84]

Are talents identical for all covenants? I mean having 3 guys with the same talents? With minor differences for covenant specific abilities (like the abobination limb thing).

[@harrylong2796]

The moustache is refined and extremely handsome good sir

[@darksword1337]

Troooo!

[@Siberiasun2]

not gonna lie, i was gonna go necrolord anyway cause i love that abomination limb visual. didn't even care if it was good XD

[@darksword1337]

Haha true!

[@maleficzone2776]

I love the limb animation. I call it time to get slap happy.

[@luxitrash]

For unholy is the “plague doctor”, no?

[@darksword1337]

Not 100% sure about unholy.

[@draegin2566]

Hazzed! Check to see iwhen obliterate crits are turned to frost damage, they then scale with skyfury totem!

[@darksword1337]

Hmm interesting idea!

[@shiugen676]

Dude, how do you feel about the nerf to the Koltira legendary?

[@darksword1337]

Wasn't needed. Kinda odd to worry about Obliterate damage with classes killing people in a single global.

[@lazerousspazerous6182]

Maaaaan 2h frost is my favorite spec next to unholy. I'm so hyped to be a DK this expan

[@icresp4263]

Me too man, I really hope they dont make it dogshit compared to DW

[@MIngalls]

....aaaaand.... Lore! lol

[@ezenor4187]

Broo show how to play with two little wepaons for pvp because i prefer with them please

[@darksword1337]

Bahahaha!

[@ezenor4187]

@@darksword1337 you didn't seem to take me seriously ?if only a 2h weapon is played with, I just won't play it

[@jaylapointe1654]

Then don't play it. It plays pretty much the same as duel wield frost does right now on live for PvP

[@aura3393]

I have never been this early before

[@Evilbas]

same :D

[@angrysenpai8421]

Pretty obvious it’s increase in magic damage and frost damage is magic damage lol

[@darksword1337]

what in the crap are you even talking about. LOL

[@bigb5681]

necrolord because cool edgybois

[@shiugen676]

weapon swap is gone, my day has just been made :) But are you sure that Glacial is a dps increase as you are using runes that would normally go towards obliterates and by consequence less rime procs?

[@darksword1337]

Yee Glacial uses RP. In bursty situations/shorter fights. I wouldn't use it. If i wanted to maximize burst pressure in arena say 3's. For sure. It also procs obliteration KM's so it can be weaved.

[@mike4088]

Delete before nerf lol

[@darksword1337]

Have a feeling that the ability was already specifically nerf'd for this reason haha.

[@sametkucukcolak4157]

DK is getting more complicated, probably I am gonna go with my pala :D

[@zorgosh]

go warrior just keep enraged up

[@sametkucukcolak4157]

Zørg thats a good point but warriors have only “ go and smash” without any visual skill

[@zorgosh]

@@sametkucukcolak4157 how rude... i think warrior are just more squishy than dks soo that go smash thing help cuzz u can die easly "ams no stress"

[@sametkucukcolak4157]

Zørg loktar ogar 💪🏻

[@zorgosh]

@@sametkucukcolak4157 sufferwell!

[@gfnmpa]

The real queston is: they've already nerfed suolbind conduits? I remember 3x dps for everyone but now I see only 2

[@darksword1337]

Yea, there used to be 3! They nerf'd it for everyone.

[@gfnmpa]

Hazzed Gaming so no more personalization (3 slot for 5 dps conduits) for the content u are doing and just sim and stick with the 2 best for the entire expansion. Just blizzard I guess

[@darksword1337]

@@gfnmpa I could see the RW one being fairly good for DW. Maybe the Empower conduit could come into play later. Outside of that. Pretty much. They did add a defensive conduit which i did like.

[@naalir6120]

2h frost is shiiet 1h much more dps

[@dimitriegm2375]

Players are humanoid

[@vinniebrown2232]

Shave your mustache off, it looks bad.

[@darksword1337]

one day when your old enough to grow one. You will understand.

[@Axiomslawl]

imagine getting beta lol

[@darksword1337]

TRUEEE!