Why Ni is THE visualization function

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

I'd say this is a very accurate description of what might be going on. I'm very curious how close it is actually the same phenomenon going on. Ni seems like deep dream (REM) Ne seems like superficial dream (daydream) Ni is like dreaming so deep that it's quite disconnected from external reality, whereas Ne is having one foot in a dream and one foot in external reality. Ni seems real because in a deeper dream, so you're not aware you're dreaming. With Ne you might can never fully believe it, because you're always aware it's a dream or imagination because on foot is still in external reality. btw: interesting subject to talk about!

[@bio.Luminescence]

It is great that you are trying to understand something by exploring possibilities but daydreaming is connected to hypnagogic imagery as well and one can become completely absorbed in it, and hence go deeper or remain in between states. A complete separation between external and inner objects doesn’t seem to be possible, but I can understand a propensity to imagine material objects or more subtle subjects. Yet, both Ni and Ne users can choose to imagine whatever they want at different times. My sister, also an Ni dom, seems to prefer external real world objects and themes, my brother and I seem to prefer to figure out the nature of reality, what it is made of, but imagination can generate imagery about anything really and it does, constantly. So where does Ne end and Ni begins and vice versa? We dream 24/7 and of both inner subjects and external objects. Maybe it is a question of interest, which once again is always very diverse and defies classification. It is really hard to classify imagination and intuition and try to limit it in any way.

[@ginkgoteki]

@@bio.Luminescence i generally agree with what u said but i see what they mean. personally , my Ne tends to ‘skim the surface’ of things and flit between details and subjects. i can focus on the track i’m already on but it’s easier 2 just not. My brother is Ni and is the opposite, he gets a lot more lost more often. when i’m not actively focused on doing something or entirely in a day dream i do feel like i still have one foot in the clouds. i’m mainly relating to the feeling of what was said i think. are you Ne or Ni?

[@bio.Luminescence]

@@ginkgoteki Both, but Ni is my motivation to live.

[@chakchak4239]

I usually have chaotic plots in my dreams, but after waking up I understand that they have a common plot from dream to dream with hints as to why this is not reality, but you understand this after you wake up, I think in reality it’s the same, it would seem in simple things there is bold hints on the answer

[@ho8464]

Ni for me is definitely unconscious imagination. That’s the best way to describe it. It’s having eyes in another world, usually without any awareness that you are in that world. Somehow the situation becomes a sort of mental limbo because I’m only half aware that I’m in either reality or my imagination. Sometimes I’ll snap back to reality and realize that I was just watching events occurring in my head. Sometimes that imagination is enough to give us the “aha” moments, which I think can also just be moments of small resolutions about whatever we’re thinking about. Often, those small resolutions make me excited about my newfound knowledge, sometimes leading me to take a step in the real world to take advantage of such knowledge.

[@anniefarase7013]

The best example I would describe dominant Ni at work to someone who is not Ni-dom (especially to my sensor friends) is to imagine keeping your room the same, consistent way for a long period of time. It may be organized or it may be messy. But every object has been in one location for that period so that you are used to its arrangement. You're used to your surroundings even though you don't pay too much attention to each little detail. Now imagine that just one object is disturbed from its original position. It may have been removed, rotated, or placed inches away from its original position. Your Inferior Se can definitely sense that something has changed as if the whole room is off balance but you can't exactly pinpoint what has been altered. You know your weakness is troubleshooting, so even though something feels different, you can't identify what is keeping itself hidden from you. And it may take a long time to figure this out, that an object has been thrown away. It isn't a "psychic" function like some misinformed people say it is. Ni-doms do pay attention to their environments, but they take in information differently than their Se-dom cousins. They focus more on how these details (the objects) form one giant unit and how that unit should be defined. Is it a cohesive unit? A mismatched unit? Either way, if how they perceive the unit changes, then they begin to suspect that the a component of the unit has changed, been omitted, or been tampered with, etc. I've got a lot more examples I could bring up as I hang with a lot of sensors, mostly Se-types, and know how much sensors love hearing examples to understand theories haha.

[@HaydnYick21]

I completely agree with that. My eyes do that when I'm telling something from my memory, could be a story or some facts. I literally see whatever I'm explaining as a movie in front of me and I'm just saying what I'm seeing, probably why my eyes move like that. Very bizarre but actually really eye opening.

[@Tiifa90]

What's your type?

[@soniac2156]

It's because your memories are very clear, like happend just yesterday

[@ENZERYN]

@@soniac2156 i do that too, but pictures come in front of me not the moving movie. I speak random words. Ni is connecting every picture and that's why when we need to tell past not in a list but a big-picture form, we go in this position to access those images. My memory (Si) is horrible though. Ni rememberance is different from Si.

[@EmTreasure88]

"Really eye opening" I *see* what you did there-

[@FromTacoma]

Lol Open till recently I thought everyone saw their recall as a movie and just told what they saw in their head. So you’re saying this isn’t true of everyone? Interesting. I wonder how other people see their thoughts.

[@juli-321]

This is such a good comparison! I'll use this as a metaphor to explain my Ni in the future: It's like you know the whole plot of a dream after you wake up but you can't remember every individual step how you got there. Thank you for your professional videos. You helped me so much in understanding more about mbti and especially the functions.

[@aprilhelm518]

Usually when I wake up from dreams and remember them, there is no plot, but I remember individual steps and reflect on how weird various details were and how none of the parts actually make any sense. Other than the sleep-brain weirdness, that's how my mind works in waking as well. Frankly, Ni (and Ne) are not dreams. Maybe imagination is engaged, but maybe different types imagine and dream differently (just a maybe). Granted, as an Si-dom, I tend to think of Ni as the function that can decide the progression of a plot, beginning, middle, and end. Si? Not so much.

[@tosh471]

Oh wow! As an INTJ, I really love seeing how you relate REM to Ni. I often recall many of my dreams, and often shock people with my dream stories. Wonder if other Ni users have vivid dreams?

[@claytonia1586]

yes people were often surprised at how vivid my dreams are, and how well I remember them. so often they have been a metaphorical answer to a question or have helped me process things.

[@bryanarnold4288]

INFJ here. Related to this, I also tend to think in pictures as opposed to the internal monologue. I talk to myself, of course, but I visualize my thoughts more often than others typically do.

[@Aestareth_]

intj as well, i don't remember my dreams easily and i almost have aphantasia

[@tofusamurai22]

OMG I have always described 'Ni' as similar to super-imposing a dream over reality (like two films super-imposed over one another), so it makes sense that Ni eye movement would mirror REM sleep eye movement! WHOA!!!

[@sonicmaths8285]

yeah, it's always when I try to think that I automatically start to daydream.

[@jamalcole1985]

I agree. I prefer to look away when people are discussing/describing something so I can visualize and get more involved with what they are saying. Sometimes i have to stop myself from actually seeing the words they are saying

[@RaidenShogun..]

Isn’t that Ne? I thought ni was ne and Ne was ni before watching this video.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Can Ne also visualise what people are saying? Or the text they are reading? Example: I am walking at the street and fell down and my head bleed. And then while reading that, a visual thing appear and imagine the words into pictures. Is that Ni or Ne?

[@nkopanelesedilebona9227]

You just made me realise that all of my Ni creations when I'm awake feel almost exactly like dreams, except I'm just more capable of remembering them and enveloping myself within them

[@justinapetrus]

I've noticed myself doing this eye movement, or rather noticed most other people don't. I have been an avid dreamer for most of my life. If you ask me what I did the day before vs what I dreamed the night before, the latter will be much more vivid.

[@matthewedwards6025]

There's another phenomenon that's well-known for INTJs (high Ni users): the "death stare." I think there's two possible ways to interpret that: 1) the audience said something interesting and is simply shocked that they now have the INTJ's FULL attention or 2) the stare is misinterpreted by the audience; in reality the INTJ has defocused his/her eyes (possibly while talking) to limit sensory input while they are inside their own head. I do this, and I think I do it so I won't get distracted while I'm considering concepts. The audience often says it looks like the INTJ is staring right through them.

[@def6420]

Had INTJ teacher as ENTJ and it seems right

[@atomnous]

Interesting. I might just add that eureka is more Ne, even when we're talking about our dreams. Ni seems to not really take those as "surprising" realizations, just a part of their obvious reality, while Ne constantly has these casual eureka moments because it actively tries to lego its way up to it when excited. But I know as Ne-Si, I'm not really that visual. My visualization is often blurry, sketchy, or like a frozen memory. I can sometimes force it to be detailed and continuous, but not always. I've also been saying Se-Ni is more visual, and your information here verifies it more. It's a really interesting finding. Thanks!

[@Mijolite]

Another thing besides REM that comes to mind, that is similar to this horizontal oscillation, is inducing hypnosis with a pendulum, often a pocket watch. The eye movement following it is much slower and more of a half-circle than straight horizontal line, but since it is one of the ways that helps induce this hypnotic state, same state as in half wakefulness half sleep (like hypnogogic state when we're falling asleep and hypnopompic state when we're waking), it suggests to me that there is this link between this eye movement and Ni(-like) cognitive function, not just arising from this function happening, but also the opposite - inducing it. When I was looking up this pendulum usage in hypnosis, I also came across some research papers on this REM-like eye movement occuring DURING hypnosis, being used to measure how deep into a hypnosis a person is.

[@gotobassmsn]

I believe they are scanning their brain to gather the information as they are speaking about a subject.

[@nateo200]

Ni really does feel like you are psychic ESPECIALLY for all the ENFJs (me!) and INFJ's as well. I can figure out how I got to a conclusion but only after an exhausting period of self-analysis.

[@therealuwu]

In order words Ni doms are like baked most of the time Sounds pretty cool

[@bio.Luminescence]

That’s my personal goal actually 🎆🌌🎇🌠, to see reality as it is and the inner light in everyone and everything. I think, deep down we all wish to witness the beauty in everyone and how precious we all are.

[@chadnash7837]

I've associated the rapid eye oscillations with a state of internal gathering. I've noticed that both Ni and Ti users do this but at different times. Ti users do this when they are thinking while Ni users do this while they are gathering their perceptions (not with Ni alone but using Te too). You can see this in action in any debate, INTJs will typically exhibit the eye movement prior to speaking but then once they shift over to Te and begin deconstructing their perceptions into logic they will exhibit more wandering eyes (though different than Ne). Ti users on the other hand will do these eye movements while deconstructing their perceptions into logic. Strangely enough I've noticed that those with both Ni and Ti (INFJ, ISTP) don't tend to do this eye movement at all. Rather they have very still eyes that lock into place, move, then lock into place again. I think it is the combination of an introverted function and an extroverted function (with the introverted function being higher on the stack) that creates this effect. Ni-Te combines the still nature of Ni with the more rapid nature of Te. This reflects an internal state of quickly logically shifting through very focused perceptions. Which intuitively explains the eye movements. The same is true for Ti-Ne, very focused logic (that is dominant) and a rapid perception function causes a similar phenomenon. Theoretically Ni-Fe should simulate this as well but since the feeling functions don't require the same amount of deliberation it doesn't seem to occur. Basically you can think of involuntary eye movements as the brain searching for content. When one is doing large Ne eye movements this is reflective of its nature to jump from one loose connection to another, parts of the brain far apart are being activated rapidly, this is illustrated in Dario Nardi's research regarding Ne as well. Thus the small, rapid eye movements can be thought of as jumping from connection to connection within a much more local section of the brain. As a general pattern it seems to arise when an introverted and extroverted function is heavily engaged at the same time and the introverted function is higher on the stack. Thus an ISFJ might do this when heavily engaging Ti-Ne.

[@joelmirabito7390]

I've never noticed it before, but now I can't stop noticing it.

[@Mushroomfields]

I had more details on my dreams when I tried to get into lucid dreams, after writing down what I remembered of one the next became way more easy to remember in detail. They were weird in a sense that it felt like if I was acting in a movie where I know the script for everyone and no matter how surprising or unnatural something was I thought "ah yeah, this is normal or makes sense" and acted accordingly as if I was expecting it.

[@guilhermefonsecaribeiro1561]

Nice video, but something to be aware of is that Ni usually doesn’t work alone in the mind, Ni and Se are in an axis with each other, if Ni is the first function in the stack, Se will be automatically be in the fourth slot of the stack, if Ni is in the second slot of the stack, Se will be in the third slot, if Ni is in the third slot, Se will be in the second slot, and finally, if Ni is in the fourth slot, Se is the top function, and would be great to analyze how they interact with each other in each position

[@melannydayrethratliff1309]

She knows that. She is just trying to understand why people that have high Ni, have this types of eye movements.

[@Chierushi]

Came back to this video. Really love how you type with eye movements. Watching videos of myself I find I either have direct eye contact (I imagine that is Se?) or do the Ni eye movements. INFJ here.

[@veronicapetrov184]

i have an insanely good memory because i can visualize things extremely easily so I can recall situations exactly like how they happened. i've made videos of myself and I didn't even notice I did those eye movements! I talked to some friends & was shocked to find out that many of them did not have the same visualization that I do.

[@Dgn404]

That is very interesting! Also I love that you can discover things through observing people. I am good at that too and a lot of people don't seem to get it. At least in my life. I recognize patterns and find meaning in them but a lot of people doubt me despite having a good track record for accurately interpreting these things

[@WatchPrayAlways]

After watching your video type policing Frank James (as an ENTP was it?) and seeing how Holly's eye movements looked, I watched some of my own yt video footage and noticed that my eyes seem do that same rapid movement. This was helpful to me, since I keep scoring INFP on tests, but have scored INFJ in the past, so I'm trying to figure out my correct type. I can also confirm that I'm a lifelong vivid dreamer and have also received a few visions as well as having a few spiritual "hearing" experiences some might describe as prophetic in nature. Btw, I'm a born-again Christian, so for me this falls in line with certain New Testament teachings on spiritual gifts.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Example: Someone says: I am walking at the street and fell down and my head bleed. And then while reading that, a visual thing appear and imagine the words into pictures in the head and is vivid. Is that Ni or Ne?

[@kuro_tadori]

That's so interesting! I have dominant Ni and I'm pretty good at imagining worlds in my head, which I guess can be seen as daydreaming. I also have very strong visual memory. I also often remember my dreams, and I guess the visualisation part is indeed similar. The only difference is that dreams are seemingly quite random. Whereas Ni is pretty focused on the 'most likely' solutions. But I guess while dreaming, solutions are also subconsciously found.

[@freia.k.asunny8667]

ISFP with fairly good ni here! I totally agree

[@Moon-ns8nl]

a good point. a thing that should be mentioned is that this cannot be always noticed, as some INTJs or INFJs may be in function loop so that they are not healthy and do not look like even like their type. SO they don't do such eye movements. But what I (INTJ) do is I don't do such eye movement when I am with people, not to look like a person who lacks of self-esteem. But when I am alone half of the time I spend dreaming and start to visualise my thoughts in my mind and I see that visual things even without closing my eyes. Thing to mention is that during this process I don't use my eyes to see reality, but to see that things in my thoughts.

[@RaidenShogun..]

I thought Ni was Ne and the opposite. Example: Someone says: I am walking at the street and fell down and my head bleed. And then while reading that, a visual thing appear and imagine the words into pictures in the head and is vivid. Is that Ni or Ne?

[@RaidenShogun..]

I think Ne users are also that last sentence of yours. When they daydream, they don’t Se.

[@RaidenShogun..]

For example mom says I am going to the dentist next week to adjust the braces. Then, have the visual imagination in the head when she say that. Is that Ne or Ni?

[@Moon-ns8nl]

@@RaidenShogun.. I don't know

[@aprilhelm518]

I don't see that REM has the same function as introverted intuition. Sleep and probably dreams are used by the body to maintain it's regular healthy function. Without any sleep or without good quality sleep, health and cognition declines because we need it to function and be healthy. Ni, on the other hand, seems to have a different function than body maintenance. So... I just don't see a lot of basis for that comparison.

[@RaidenShogun..]

You sound like an Intp with their logical explanation

[@elvil]

To check, I paused this video and watched a video of myself talking and found that I don't do that eye movement when narrating and explaining things. I noticed I do it when I'm trying to answer my own questions and when I'm trying to figure something out. I'm an auxiliary Ni user.

[@rossy3lo]

I'm not sure if I have tht eye movement. The way I use my Ni is like breathing, concious n subconcious. To me Ni is like a mode of thought process, from the moment I wake up, I tried to remember what I planned to do, then proceed to do the activity while planning on the next action. Then started to noticing what had happened when I was asleep based on the visual sensory of my home (I live with my hub n son), analyze for proper response whether any adjustment or change of plan is necessary, etc. Most often than not, I use my Ni for analyzing because usually there are many underlying meaning in other's words n behavior. Ni is always on the steer especially when I'm doing mundane things, but I switch it off when I need to concentrate in doing real life activities. I dont think I visualize a lot these days. Most of the time I just analyze things, digging memories to come up with an insight or conclusion. Btw, I'm an INTJ

[@BasedGodEmperorTrump]

One way to describe Ni, in my opinion is similar to premonitions but not necessarily extreme. Kind of like in the Final Destination movies. We tend to see how things will go or what's going on between the lines.

[@mistym.4236]

I wonder if replicating eye movements of a cognitive function can help give someone access to that function

[@ladybluebell1598]

I imagine recreating Ni would feel like hypnosis

[@sonicmaths8285]

@@ladybluebell1598 your thinking seems akin to a daydream. For me, utilizing Ni (constantly, 'cause Ni-dom), is always when I try to think like activating a daydream-state and daydream. So, straightforward equation: Ni-dom => thinking = daydreaming

[@Chierushi]

I love this stuff I didn’t realize I could dream while awake but maybe that’s what the imagination is doing with Ni. It makes sense in a way, because it’s a distinct experience from looking back on a memory like an Si user might.

[@choxomoxxo565]

Me, an ENTP suddenly having the thought of "what if I actually have Ni and not Ne?" and aggressively learning all I can about it

[@RaidenShogun..]

Hello, ENTP. They say it’s like seeing vivid imagination (Ni) in real life (Se) but they are not in real life (Se) and are in their minds.

[@davidsanchez8360]

Interesting finding! I'm an INTJ and while preparing for a job video interview and rehearsing in front of the camera I noticed my eyes would dart all over the place while I spoke (not just left to right). I practiced looking at the camera until I stopped doing it (don't know if I managed to maintain good eye contact -no death stare, no darting around- throughout the whole interview, though...). That brings me to thinking that maybe the eye movement pattern (e.g. death stare, left to right, all over the place) is different in different activities (listening, recalling from memory, thinking of an answer/solution to a problem, etc.). Anything on this?

[@ac-jn1iq]

I’ve never heard anyone talk about this other than me. It’s why Dali is my favorite artist. He used waking sleep states to create his art. -Ni user here

[@mine6472]

On second thought..lol I just tried to say something out loud and observe myself and I do it when I am scanning a memory almost. If that makes sense.bbut my question is..what about infjs. Because my sister is infj and she doesn't do that eye movement at all. She has more of a piercing stare that looks like she is hurting 😆

[@RaidenShogun..]

Oof. That sounds scary.

[@arundumbon4033]

I wonder how the different pereceiving functions talk to theirself. Like would an Si user use the stored words from the past to make up the words? How would Se do it?

[@claytonia1586]

this is really interesting. I'm lead Ni and I'm not sure if I do those quick side to side eye movements. I've never noticed it in interviews etc of myself. I do definitely recall and think visually like watching a film. I actually get completely lost in it and when finished it's like leaving one world and coming back to another. but my eyes tend to look at what I'm seeing in real time. as an example in one video I was explaining my past. I was talking about my previous Ni journey and I had to change direction and I was explaining that it was like a train and I had to jump off and was then left watching that train go off without me. I was seeing the train to my left, I was watching it go off and feeling I desperately needed to get on. and my eyes were looking at the train and I even moved my head to the left and then followed the train down the track with my eyes and pointed at it as if the other person might see it. it was so real. but it was all to the left and slow eye movements because the train was always on the left, just going further away, rather than fast from left to right. if that makes any sense?

[@xkagutaba]

it's as if i'm always dreaming, having 'thought comas', and to be honest, i sleep a lot too. for Ni-doms, Se maps the outside world to the inside world, which loosely can be thought of as a homeomorphism, and the image of that map is what Ni constantly acts upon; (part of) the inner object. it requires a lot of GPU power. the tiredness you feel after waking up to a vivid dream you had the night before, applied to the daily cognition. now considering Jung's "One who looks outside, dreams. One who looks inside, awakens", it appears that Ni-doms are constantly dreaming outwardly, while in fact they are awakening inwardly.

[@rowanjoy419]

Also Calypso, Today I realize something very interesting. I see that some people that are drug addicts have similar eye movement that Ni-Se users have even when they may aren't ni-se users. And we all know what symptoms do drugs cause to your body, especially the frontal lobe that is responsible for higher cognitive functions such as memory, emotions, impulse control, problem solving, social interaction, and motor function. What do you all thing about this?

[@RaidenShogun..]

You sound like an Ne user hehe

[@RaidenShogun..]

I thought Ni was Ne and the opposite. Example: Someone says: I am walking at the street and fell down and my head bleed. And then while reading that, a visual thing appear and imagine the words into pictures in the head and is vivid. Is that Ni or Ne?

[@mine6472]

I like this video but I somehow disagree, although I may be wrong. I have this eye movement but I feel that for me anyway, it is linked to retrieval of thoughts. I struggle to find words when speaking and I somehow feel that this is related to the struggle. So It is different from rem sleep. Of course I could be wrong but that's just what is coming to mind right now. To be conclusive I would really have to video myself talking and try to remember when I did it what I was thinking of but I'm too lazy to do that right now🌝

[@JenksAnro]

Im not an Ni user, but i learned these eye movements from my old boss a year or so ago

[@someone-hz8tj]

btw search up "nlp eye movement chart" or smth like that. Its not the same thing but still interesting.

[@johnknight9150]

Fascinating theory, worth exploring, though it cannot be understood through the disproven idea of 'subconscious'. See Freud on The Unconscious, and Jung's multiple rants. Ni is reliant on unconscious processing, and the conscious mind is an extension of unconscious, not the other way around. The conscious mind grows out of the unconscious, and the unconscious represents the greater overall portion of the human psyche.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Are you intp? You sound like one

[@johnknight9150]

@@RaidenShogun.. INTJ.

[@todoido13]

what if Si also has some eye movement that could be mistaken to Ni?

[@RaidenShogun..]

The istj? I don’t see Si doms have this eye movements. I don’t really know how Si dom works. I think they see the past with photographic memory when something reminds them of the past. Idk

[@mraarontorres]

Where is Alex does she have social media

[@ac-jn1iq]

Also I meditate a lot, and people tell me my eyes do this when I meditate.

[@deedoc6241]

8:19 Isn’t Allan an ESTJ? In Socionics ESTJ, or rather the LSE type, has Vulnerable aka Point of Least Resistance Ni, which means that would be Allan’s weakest function out of all 8 functions, which would explain why he doesn’t have visual dreams. So, unless Allan is typed differently within the Socionics model, that just further proves the connection you’re making with Ni and REM sleep.

[@soniac2156]

Ni-doms have very vivid, very clear memories, like a movie

[@globelights3346]

I think that this type of eye movement is not just Ni alone, it might be occuring when there is a combination of Ni + Te. Therefore you might notice these eye movements in INTJ, ENTJ, ISFP or ESFP but not necessarily in INFJ, ENFJ, ISTP or ESTP, as per my observation.

[@FlagrantVagrant]

Have you typed Aubrey Plaza? What did you type her as? Is there a video? I'm curious because it's very extremely popular to type her as an xNTP. There's a huge overwhelming majority of votes on PDB in that direction. CS Joseph types her ENTP. Objective Personality types her INFP. But I didn't buy Ne/Si axis for one second. I'm more partial to INFJ or ISFP, leaning ISFP, offchance maybe INTJ. And I want to know where you're at with this.

[@august8679]

Maybe Ni determines how many dreams you remember. Calypso said Allen doesn’t remember any of his dreams, and perhaps that is because of Ni blindspot. I’m going to ask some people about this, to see if this theory is correct.

[@aleksandraspalinska8384]

Hi! Thank you very much for this video, it's really interesting. Would it be possible for you to check out eye movement of other well-known people but not celebrities? For example, literature Nobel Prize laureate Olga Tokarczuk is often considered INFJ but her eye movements are different (however, I can be mistsken).

[@pablo_astorga]

Very good theory.

[@jimmygarcia6766]

Do entjs eyes do this?

[@RaidenShogun..]

Depends on how strong their Ni is

[@NorwegianToby]

I definitely do that with my eyes and yes my subconscious is the smart version of me kinda

[@krishoward1360]

Do you do a free typing giveaway?

[@TK-kf8zc]

I just watched a video with Kate of TypeMatch talking to DaveSuperpowers about type compatibility. At 6:38 her eyes very visibly start doing the horozontal movements for about 5 seconds. I read that she is an ESTP, so Ni inferior. Great to actually see a 4th function kick in. The 16 Personality Types & Their Best Matches- with Dave SuperPowers" on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYjWdIaHnK2Bmrs

[@Bobby_101]

No, visualization is directly linked to Thinking. Te and Ti are the visualization function. This becomes clear when my INTJ friend can visualize things very clearly, and I as an INFJ can literally visualize nothing and have aphantasia essentially. Or the INTP's I know can visually see any word in their head and read it backward instantly. The reasons why the frontal lobe works the way it does with thinking is, the visual center is also there (in the thinking center), and visualizing something makes it easy for the brain to "work" with that information. And *thinking* IS working with information. Aka thinking is almost the same thing as visualizing. (Btw, visualization has nothing to do with imagination as in creativity. That has to do with Ne, Se, aka the extroverted perceiving functions.) This makes the types with worst visualization as well as creativity - the xxFJ's.

[@matthewedwards6025]

Your theory that Ni is associated with dreaming is interesting. I wonder if high Ni users hardly ever remember their dreams because they're "dreaming" so much while they're awake that they don't need to dream while they're asleep.

[@Enigma96969]

Check out Voluntary nystagmus, I’m a INTJ and can do this at will. Very interesting

[@antondeannova7016]

Really like your vidio

[@michaelbindner9883]

This explains why I, as an Ne cannot see an image when I think of it. Instead, I analyze it a deeper level.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Ne don’t have vivid imagination? Is it more like a voice of yours debating in your head about some topics?

[@todoido13]

elon musk seems to have such eye movements

[@IM-uh5tk]

What is your personality type?

[@g.quagmire7583]

Infp

[@snudgegalbraith3447]

Why do Ni and Se come as a pair?

[@RaidenShogun..]

Why are you even questioning that?

[@MarisaKirisame42485]

I only notice this in INTJs and not in INFJs. It's as if Se overrules Ni.

[@RaidenShogun..]

Both types I know in real life don’t have those eye movements.

[@Notamusicianbut]

@@RaidenShogun.. Both are mistyped (the ones you know) Nearly all INTJs and INFJs I know have this eye movement and death stare as well

[@brocklytodd5317]

yas

[@Gobtrey]

4:43 omg ur si 😂

[@noturbo]

Thats Kool 👀

[@sunnieA]

yup yup

[@faderkorall]

I wonder if people with aphantasia get REM

[@RaidenShogun..]

That’s what I thought

[@godboy_666]

Why you moving hands like me while talking ? - infp Wait r u infp ?

[@RaidenShogun..]

She is

[@SuperXkms]

I guess it’s like daydreaming

[@kyurei4478]

Yeah, actually you can simply compare Ni to a 3D software integrated into your brain lol. No difference.

[@Zero11s]

not with Aphantasia

[@thomasgrice8864]

Interesting that so many INTJs look sleepy all the time. Like Cillian Murphy.

[@theloniusmonk1263]

He's not an INTJ but Tommy Shelby is

[@thomasgrice8864]

@@theloniusmonk1263 What group do you think he is? Almost everyone states INTJ, except one ISTP source. In his interviews he seems like a socialised INTJ.

[@theloniusmonk1263]

@@thomasgrice8864 he's INFP in my view, definitely not gamma quadra or the rational temperament. And definitely Se PolR in person

[@RyannLagattuta]

So what happened to y’all? Y’all disappeared!