Why Palpatine HATED the Sith Homeworld of Korriban

[@Tkokat]

The thought of Palpatine being bullied by ghosts is just hilarious for some reason

[@alexf.6521]

that could be a robot chicken episode, now that i think of it. imagine that actually becomes an episode after i post this comment

[@donovanbradford8231]

Chances are the ghosts didn't bully Palpatine so much as screw with him in such a way that he was in a ridiculous outfit after the fact and Palpatine thought so this is what means to be a Sith and thaught that to Vader. And that's why Vader kept screwing with Lando, "put on this dress and bonit, where these cloen shoes and call yourself Mary, ride a unicycle wherever you go" I'l mean by the end Lando is ready to do all that crap just to get Vader to stop raising the stakes.

[@Tkokat]

@@donovanbradford8231 I wonder at what point you start to rethink your life choices as a sith. May be when the ghosts of Christmas past taunt you while you're preparing breakfast

[@STARWARS_FANATIC]

Palpatine was more of a loner. We don’t hear him speak much of the Sith Order, other than when he is manipulating someone.

[@offroader9965]

Agreed

[@dannykringle554]

@@MrRippis everything he says tho is for his own game. He never pays respect to the lineage unless hes manipulating someone to do his bidding

[@theonlymatthew.l]

1st rule of Sith Club, Don't talk about Sith Club. 😁

[@saf_timalsena_]

@@theonlymatthew.lI love this joke so much. First rule of dragon flight club is that there is no dragon flight club

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

It's cause they made fun of his appearance

[@michaelrobertson4896]

I find the fact that Palpitine might have been spooked by Korriband to be both hilarious and terrifying. I find it funny because he’s one of the most powerful Sith to ever live and yet he’s afraid of the ghosts of the ancient Sith, yet I find it terrifying because Palpitine was so powerful yet he feared them which shows just how dangerous the Sith Spirits really are. Even in death they’re still extremely dangerous enough to almost kill one of the most powerful Sith Lords to ever live.

[@elektrogamer-roblox8717]

And we have yoda over here casually talking to the ghost of darth bane

[@zefft.f4010]

This is why the Sith will never truly die. There is always some spirit, lingering, waiting to be found by some gullible fool so that the Sith can be reborn once again.

[@Ziel-22k]

@@elektrogamer-roblox8717 Maybe because of his inner light side, he was not charmed, furthermore, he was guided by the priestesses. I remember the scene when some sith "priests" are surrounding Yoda, but he doesn't seem to be afraid.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Well if you've ever played SWTOR as a Sith you'd knock those ghosts are some real dicks.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@zefft.f4010 Or waiting to be bound to that person unwillingly

[@markcarpenter6020]

The ancient sith would have had no use for any of the rule of two sith. The ancient sith believed in crushing their opposition with their strength and constantly proving themselves against the other sith. The rule of two sith focused on pure subterfuge. And limiting knowledge to keep from having any competition. They would have likely viewed any rule of two sith as weak and complacent in their knowledge and strength. And the throne for Vader was probably partly mocking and partly to encourage Vader. To show him not what he could have been but what he could be....if he had the strength, knowledge, and will to take it.

[@ericbrown8479]

Empire's End was written during a time we all thought there was only one Dark Lord of the Sith at a time pre-PT. That DLOS was Vader and the throne was his for when he died like all of the other DLOS entombed on Korriban. If you weren't a SW fan during the 90's you don't realize we knew next to nothing about the Sith between Exar Kun and Darth Vader. Even the taking of a false name Darth Vader was thought to be unique to Anakin. I think trying to apply current knowledge to Empire's End Korriban is a pretty broad stretch of retcon.

[@bdgregorybd]

The ancient sith almost went extinct from their constant infighting. The entire first book about Darth Bane was him trying to address this problem. More than anything, sith spirits like Marka Ragnos and Naga Sadow would’ve been impressed with that solution as their infighting is what caused them to lose in the Hyperspace war and go into hiding for hundreds of years at dromund kaas.

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@bdgregorybd darth banes solution was not a sith solution. The correct solution (from a sith perspective) for the hyperspace war. Is you don't leave your enemies alive after a civil war.

[@jakealter5504]

@@markcarpenter6020 that’s exactly what bane did though since he considered the other sith his enemy

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@jakealter5504 that's what bane did but he set it up so no one after him would have to prove themselves against other sith(appreciate against apprentice, master against master). I think bane has good intentions but I think his method weakend the sith in the long term. But that is just my personal opinion.

[@PinkyJujubean]

He seems like he has this "teenage punk" attitude when it comes to the old sith lords. Like their disapproval is proof that he's on the right path. Which is a very sithlike attitude to have

[@justwannabehappy6735]

Well... They did saw their empire and subsequent incarnations fell.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

I think when he went into the valley of the dark lords for the first time they made fun of his appearance and pompous attitude lmao. He never went back.

[@zacharywilliams4575]

@@A_Black_Sheep94 I can see palpapatine running back “master plagius “ *sniffles and sobs* “the dark lords were mean to me”

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@zacharywilliams4575 "I'm mean to you too"

[@zacharywilliams4575]

@@A_Black_Sheep94 “but they called me ugly “ 😭😭😭😭 “you are ugly. Told you not to use force lightning so much “🤣🤣🤣

[@LoganSewell83]

I want to see a live action skit in which Ian McDiarmid attempts to study at Korriban only to be mocked by an ancient Sith portrayed by John Cleese.

[@steowens8243]

Darth Nearly Headless Nick

[@MacTac141]

“Darth Python farts in your general direction”

[@donovanbradford8231]

I'm not gonna lie I have this idea in my head of Bane, Revan, Malgus and other Sith Lords just trolling Palpatine pulling a Robot Chicken with a dress, clown shoes, unicycle, and calling himself Mary. Palpatine gets pissed leaves while the laugh and as he's flying away he says, "you know that was a really good troll I'm gonna teach that to Vader and him start using that.

[@karlrovey]

Korriban to Sidious: _Go away, or we will taunt you a second time._ (taunts him a second time).

[@scottboa2738]

Bane was a fool. There was more to Korriban, than just the Valley of the Dark Lords. There was the Valley of Kings, where the Sith Purebloods buried all of their Kings, including King Adas. Then there was the Valley of the Most High. High Priests and Priestess were buried there. Every classification within Sith society has their own burial grounds. There was over a billion graves, tombs, and crypts on Korriban. Lord Bane, Zannah, Sidious, Vader, and many others could have learned from studying the many, many holocrons left behind. Perhaps even learned some of the long forgotten Sith knowledge, like time travel or flying. Or liquidation. That's casting a spell to turn an individual or an entire planet into liquid.

[@nerdwatch1017]

Yes it should definitely have been Korabon in rise of skywalker. And instead of ships hiding in the planets crust. It could have been inside hollowed out small moons!! With only 10-15 resurgent class star destroyer having the planet fracturing weapons with a large fleet of star destroyers protecting a single ship!! With the final battle taking place over important planets all over the galaxy!!

[@dreamfirefight9456]

The in-universe explanation for that was because for the Sith Eternal, having the place on Korriban was “too obvious”. But Exegol was still too random.

[@stonedivider6305]

Wtf is korabon?

[@nerdwatch1017]

@@stonedivider6305 my bad lol

[@weststarv8087]

@@stonedivider6305 It look like a bon2 candy from asia

[@lucario2able]

What about the moons being deathstars but hollowed out so the ships could detach from it and fly off?

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

As far as I know, there were only two Sith that ever truly accepted by the Sith spirits of Korriban as their successors. Exar Kun and Ulic Quel-Droma. They helped others, but only those two they accepted as their successors. In my opinion it was because of their point of view. In a way the Sith degenerated to wanting to destroy the Jedi, the Republic. From the Spirits point of view this was not big enough. Anyone remember what Exar Kun said when he freed Ulic in the middle of the Republic Senate? "The Republic is not even part of the plan." Yes, Kubn lost in the end, yes, he made mistakes. But he had a vision. Even 4,000 years later Sidius' 'Galactic Empire' didn't span the entire galaxy. The Sith of the 'Rule of two' era have their goals set far too low for the Spirits of Korriban. It also stifles the advancement of the Sith in general. A Master teaches his student to a point and the student is expected to find ways to kill his Master. But everything the Master knew and didn't teach is lost in the process. And Sidius is the worst of them. He sets it up so none of his students has even a chance to surpass him. They are his tools at best. Of course the Sith Spirits did not care for Sidius. You have to wonder. Maybe they influenced his ability to see the future to secure his downfall?

[@levongevorgyan6789]

I think Krayt was also accepted, at least by the oldest Sith. Xoxaan herself mentored him.

[@ALUCARD-us3il]

⁠@@levongevorgyan6789some of the ancient sith accepted Krayt, such as xoxaan, but others hated him. Darth bane went as far as to call him a wannabe sith at one point.

[@levongevorgyan6789]

@@ALUCARD-us3il Darth Bane isn't an ancient Sith. Hell, the ancient Sith would probably see him as a pathetic, cowardly cultist hiding in the dark, using subterfuge and economics and politics to weaken his enemy instead of the dark sorceries, armies, and might of the Sith. Krayt was more like the ancient Sith the Bane ever was.

[@josephwright681]

I think this is a great contrast to Jedi force ghost who freely give their knowledge and wisdom to those they connect with

[@markcarpenter6020]

The sith will grant knowledge. But only if you prove yourself to them. At heart the sith believed in survival of the fittest. Constantly proving yourself against the other sith that would try to drag you down. The rule of two sith his in shadows and limited the number of sith to keep competition to a minimum. The ancient sith would likely view any rule of two sith as weak not daring to face true competition.

[@TheZamaron]

@@markcarpenter6020 Both orders have their own advantages. Rule of Many: The Sith were numerous and a constant threat to the Jedi and Republic, fighting rivals meant a Sith could potentially grow stronger, but it often meant you had to trust no one and grow strong quickly, or else those who hate you could try to kill you. However the downside is that with so many Sith, they could gang up on a stronger Sith and kill them. This meant only the strongest survived, but make enough enemies and they could easily ban together. Rule of 2: Downside there are only 2 official Sith and a small number of Acolytes, meaning the Sith had to remain hidden and often fight the Jedi only when necessary. It also meant when enacting schemes the Sith often had to use pawns and rely on others to get what they want without drawing too much attention, as if the Jedi found them out, it would not go well. Upside though few in number having 1 Master and Apprentice meant the Sith would be more patient, as the student had no chance of killing their master unless they learned enough. But this resulted in where the Apprentice was often powerful enough to fight even Jedi Knights and maybe a Master. The Master would teach the student, in time would come a test where the student could try to kill the Master and take their place. This meant that the student was stronger, and thus the Sith as a whole logically only got stronger and stronger, but it also meant the Master HAD to teach all they knew and be careful, for i they died nt by the student's hand then their knowledge would be lost.

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@TheZamaron while both have their disadvantages I think the disadvantages of the rule of two are slightly worse(just my personal take). I think the problem with the sith is the lack of any form of ethics. I mean it's completely possible to do good things for selfish reasons (example: building a homeless shelter to clean up an area and raise it's property values). And they have the same problem as the pre empire Jedi seeing emotional attachment as a weakness instead of a source of strength.(what could inspire more anger and hatred than someone who threatens a loved one).

[@TheZamaron]

@@markcarpenter6020 Sith lacking ethics is why they're cool. They are bad guys after all. The whole aim of the Sith is power, at any cost. Sure there have been Sith who did what they did for reasons that seem right, but most Sith are selfish, that's why the Rule of Many Sith never completely defeated the Jedi, they eventually always fell to infighting which is why Bane ended them and started the Rule of Two.

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@TheZamaron infighting is intentional. It's to make sure the most powerful is at the top and weed out the weak. And that doesn't mean they can't have a form of ethics. They seek power, to rule, but to what purpose, that is where ethics come in. What is your vision for the universe what do you seek to accomplish. Power like money is a means to an end not the end itself. Personally I would see power as a way to protect what is MINE(people, places and things) and keep them from ever being taken from me.

[@cameronmurrell-byrd7738]

The sith were always meant to rule proudly, not from the shadows

[@markcarpenter6020]

And to compete with each other so only the strongest and most cunning stood at the top. Something the rule of two was specifically designed to stop. The ancient sith would likely see any rule of two sith as weak and no true sith for those very reasons.

[@e13kid]

@@markcarpenter6020 The rule of two was designed to return the sith to the old ways, not to stop killing. It’s literally inherent to the rule of two, the apprentice must kill the master. Don’t forget they were coming from Lord Kaan’s order where they had removed infighting.

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@e13kid I didn't say it would stop killing I said it would stop competition. With the ancient sith sith Lord competed against sith Lord in a survival of the fittest affair. A rule of two sith Lord only competed against an apprentice would would be no danger to them unless the sith Lord became weak or complacent. I'm not saying the rule of two didn't have good intentions, but I'm saying it is far from what the ancient sith believed. Remember competition breeds innovation and evolution the only people the rule of two sith competed against were really the Jedi. The master had a monopoly on the dark side or as bane said embodied power. The apprentice seeks that power but it would rarely fall into their hands till the master stumbled. Instead of a mechanism to strengthen the sith the rule of two was a mechanism to weed out a weakening sith Lord.

[@veng3r663]

@@e13kid Unless the master & apprentice are both females... >:/

[@seekingabsolution1907]

The Sith path was always doomed. They'll never grow beyond themselves if they only ever seek to dominate and rule.

[@OMEGATHENIETZCHIAN]

In Legends there was something hidden on Korriban...the One Sith. Korriban was an obvious hiding place, and even the sith were known to ignore it. So who'd believe stories of a growing sith group there?

[@christinejorgens6577]

This is why I think that deep within the sandy dunes of Korriban, there is a very hidden dark side society (possibly a single descending lineage of the Sith species) protecting powerful artifacts possibly predating the order itself! Which is why I can imagine a comic series called Star Wars: Dark Enclave!

[@OMEGATHENIETZCHIAN]

@@christinejorgens6577 Kissai descendents (degenerated into primitives) do persist I think into Luke's time but I've never liked the focus on artifacts. Darth Lara Croft is a fun idea but I think there's a force nexus at the core of that world. Like an evil batery, sometimes drained but never gone.

[@saj2392]

@@christinejorgens6577 It is said that in the wake of the Great Hyperspace war - and the near-extinction of the Sith species - that many enclaves of Kissai and Massassi remained. Most likely due to taking shelter in expansive tomb complexes, or even caves. I like to think that some small enclaves of the Sith species do remain on Korriban, even if they rarely emerge into the light of day.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@christinejorgens6577 Weren't the original Sith species much weaker than the other dark side force users? They were dominated and enslaved after all.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@saj2392 They were still members of the Sith Empire after Revans time so I doubt they would have just completely died off.

[@robbmorris]

I like how Thrawn enters the scene at the mention of archaeological expeditions

[@trentw.3566]

Palpatine doesn't like reminders of how small he actually is, in comparison to the ancients.

[@stargatecommand714]

Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord up until his time

[@ecasino29]

@@stargatecommand714 I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't as powerful as the ancients.

[@stargatecommand714]

@@ecasino29 the only one that's on the same level is Vitiate, and he had to use technology to get to that point

[@ecasino29]

@@stargatecommand714 And Palpatine almost died to a Sith ancient spirit. It wouldn't surprise me if he isn't powerful as an ancient Sith.

[@troylawson1902]

Agreed The Ancient sith Masters know what's up and Palpatine wasn't interested in keeping on with the sith ways. He was only interested in hording power for himself and living forever .

[@RealBelisariusCawl]

Sidious was powerful but he knew that the one thing that could challenge him was another Sith. The vague notion of a resurgent Sith Order would be a threat to Palpatine’s power, so yeah, it makes sense to me that he’d want nothing to do with Korriban.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

It just comes down to the difference of the rule of two vs the original Sith belief of overwhelming might and numbers imo. The two groups wanted nothing to do with each other.

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

Personal I've always thought that the ancient Sith spirits were picky. About who they gave knowledge or respect too. Vader was a warrior who they could respect. Sidious was a puppet master who made demands of them. That and he wasn't nearly as powerful as he thought he was. Vader if in a healed or fresh body. Would have been the one in charge. Sidious forgot the truth behind the rule of two. The darkside consumed human bodies fairly quickly. Which is why age 55 to 60. Was the ideal time to retire him. That and the exceptance of death for the Sith greater glory.

[@stormbringer2840]

Yeah it can be interpreted as mockery but I do think the ancient sith did recognize Vader as one of them , a warrior that win his battles through strength and cunning tactics . Not a politician, puppetry under the shadows .

[@VergilArcanis]

Vader: "so why don't we look more into Korriban?" Palpatine: "Korriban is 2spooky"

[@choppergirl]

Choppergirl: I remember seeing a 2 hour news reel at a drive in theater in 1977 as a kid about these Star Wars. Who won? Star Wars Nerd: it's complicated.

[@benjaminfinch4499]

A video focusing around a comparison of Korriban, Morriband, Malichor, and Exegol all as ancient Sith worlds might be interesting.

[@timvanhoeck7018]

Korriban and Moraband are the same planet. Also, the problem with Exegol is that it's located on the complete opposite side of the galaxy from the rest of the sith worlds. And that's not even getting into my personal opinions regarding what Disney dares to call "canon"

[@anastasiab9506]

Actually, this is a great idea. I would love to see more videos about Sith worlds and in-depth videos about the Sith empires (social structure, etc)

[@Ziel-22k]

Personally, I would add Dromund Kaas, and other planets, more or less connected with Sith.

[@timvanhoeck7018]

@@Ziel-22k All of Sith Space and a few scattered worlds within or near the Radama Void (Yavin 4 is located in the Gordian Reach, but it nevertheless lies near the Radama Void, which borders Sith Space, and so still counts, especially given thar it was discovered and made a hideout by the ancient Sith Lord, Naga Sadow, and was also the base of operations for the Sith Lord, Exar Kun a thousand years later.).😎👍

[@benjaminfinch4499]

@@timvanhoeck7018 so what’s the word about that? Filoni messed up on lore research, or has the planet now officially always had 2 names?

[@Tenebrae-sith]

Sidious: heal me Revan, Malgus, Nihilus: oh hell nahhh Tenebrae: sorry bro i wont Ragnos: you are so powerful do it by yourself

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

Still, it does spit in the face of certain Jedi beliefs that Sith cannot leave behind spirits.

[@andrefigueredo34]

One moment i love from Kotorii is when Kreia describes Nihilus " he may even rival the power of the ancient sith" and the other when she mentions the saber skills of Tulak Hord. I still think the ancient sith up until the ressurgent sith empire are the coolest.

[@summers1]

I believe that emperor was mocked by the spirits because he didn’t follow in their footsteps and was ultimately too alike to the Sith Emperor from the old republic Sidious didn’t create a sith empire but a secular galactic empire and made no attempt to bring back the sith order like in the days of the spirits Also he ultimate goal was immortality for himself alone just like Valkorion

[@jakealter5504]

The main difference is that vitiate wanted to become immortal by consuming all life in the galaxy while palpatine sought a different method since he actually wanted to have people to rule

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

I think it really just comes down to the difference between the original Sith beliefs and values vs the rule of two. They're incompatible.

[@concept5631]

​@@jakealter5504 He didn't want an empire of the dead.

[@jakealter5504]

@@concept5631 exactly

[@wolfbane7497]

Ancient sith spirit chilling then palpatine shows up. Spirit: " Hey guys hey guys we got a sith wanna be loser over here. He's just a little baby sith look at the little baby. Does daddy plegaus need to change your diaper baby.

[@Tifa_Batcheller]

Sidious was only out for himself. He only cared about power and nothing for the Sith order itself.

[@kimwelch4652]

The irony is that, while there was nothing for the Sith on Korriban, there was there the beginning of great wisdom for the Jedi. It is there that Yoda started on the path shown to him by Master Qui-Gon Jinn.

[@GayLPer]

The light shines brightest in the darkest darkness.

[@karlsmith2570]

On the presumption that you haven't already done a video on this planet, I'd be interested in video breakdown of Hoth

[@Foxhound3857]

Kreia even says the Jedi or Sith of present day are like children compared to the masters of old. Sidious feared the old Sith Lords because he knew he was no match for them if any of them thought to challenge him.

[@shadowminor]

I always felt that, while made to strengthen the sith, the rule of two ultimately weakened them.ambitious apprentices would kill their master as soon as possible even if they had not learned all to learn. and in cases like palatine who tricked his master and killed him in his sleep. Every time that happened a bit of sith power was lost. So the sith ghosts saw Sidious as a mere shadow of the old sith.

[@levongevorgyan6789]

Xoxaan, one of the original Dark Lords mentored Krayt, so it could be that most of the old Empire Sith just disliked the Tule of Two.

[@nickywags0712]

Palpatine is too proud to acknowledge the former sith order

[@ca7642]

I like to think that what the galaxy has plundered from Korriban is just the scaps that the ancients cared little for. While the real treasure is far deeper (maybe the Spririts themselves) and the Dark Lords are simply awaiting the coming of the True Sith'ari to whom they would test and bestow their real artifacts and teachings.

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

So Darth Krayt?

[@ca7642]

@@АлексейМомот-щ7о To my knowledge only one of the ancient sith helped him, I could be wrong on that though. However his rule of 1 was just as stupid as the Baneite Code in my opinion, as it relyed on principles that the modern sith simply lack.

[@RavenTheBlackheart]

you know Everyone keeps talking about how powerful Palpatine is/was, honestly where's the proof? most of his deeds had help (Anakin with Mace Windu,) or straight up ran (Yoda, Twice) Vader has more feats to his name, and apparently Vader would not survive a battle with the likes of Bane, or Revan, shit everyone just forgetting about Viciate? Im pretty sure the Eternal Emperor would fold Palpatine up like a pretzel and eat him for lunch before even STARTING to break a sweat. Hell some of the Old JEDI have more feats to their names than The Emperor, HE didn't blow up Alderan his Tech did, HE didnt defeat the republic, his THREE ARMIES did, he is at best a master Strategist and had understanding of Force lightning better than most, but that hardly makes him "One of the most powerful sith Lords ever" Most of the Sith Spirits On Korriban prob mocked him cause they didn't think he was worthy enough to even be COMPARED to them let alone call himself A Sith Lord, the spirits have given guidance to fkn JEDI before cause they accepted their strength, but not Palpy boy? think that says all it needs to tbh. I like Palpatine as a Character just think he is way overrated.

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

Palpatine: Ugh.... Pilot: If I may ask, what troubles you, my Emperor? Palpatine: I need you take my to Korriban. Pilot: Ah, I see. Spooky place. Palpatine: It's not that. The spirits there make fun of me every time I go. I hate them.

[@HorusLupercal866]

the spirits: they laugh at sidious Sidious: Maybe this death star will make you think

[@RaginCanadian-gx2zl]

Palpatine while powerful woefully pales in comparison to the power and prestige of the ancient sith, they imo were on such a different level.

[@kevinhernandez2594]

I can totally imagine the spirit of Darth Andeddu calling Sidious a bitch

[@Kingofredeyes]

2:53 I can't be the only one who looks at this and thinks "is that fan art of if Dave Batista was a sith?"

[@odd-eyes6363]

I hate this idea that "Palpatine is the strongest Sith" He is the most powerful true, but not in the force, he is the most powerful in general thanks to his smarts and manipulation, he is emperor. To make him the most physically capable takes away from all the training and knowledge the ancient Sith cultivated

[@joshualap401]

Yes I totally agree. Palpatine is more like a dictator on steroids but the ancient sith spent thier lives in battle so it would make much more sense that they would be more powerfull combat wise.

[@chrisnichols9014]

Sidious was the most powerful Sith to ever live...

[@kingatlanofatlantis3075]

That “He’s the strongest Sith in history” Was only used to hype up the bad guy. It’s literally Movie Promo 101…

[@yokai333]

I'm more interested in the training of the force hounds. Too bad there isn't enough lore on the programming, total skill sets, or much other than what xesh and the few hounds have displayed

[@kristopherdorsey8561]

can you really blame the sith spirits for not giving sidious anything considering he is a horder of knowledge and also doesn't fit their own standards what's so ever.

[@blazingshadow2669]

Darth Nox would just go nom nom nom and laugh at the spirits ridicule

[@jediguruhagan]

Love all your content. Please keep it coming

[@Sci-Fi-Mike]

Great video! There was apparently a lot I didn't know about Korriban.

[@marianchicago4002]

Would like an episode about planet Yavin and it’s moons, I believe it’s popped up multiple times in Star Wars lore

[@joseestevezhernandez558]

I can imagine the Ghost of Darth Marr: "Behold how low we have fallen in this era, Sith council! Point and laugh at him!" *The council points and laughs at Palpatine, also assorted nom council Siths, slaves of such siths and even that ancient astromech in the corner*

[@JorQuin]

All the Sith lords were powerful and terrifying. I don’t think we can compare them. They were all a threat during their time. Darth Nihilus’ insatiable hunger for power made him devour planets. Palpatine had strong raw power, but his ambition, manipulation, and apathy, built his galactic empire. All the Sith lords did their thing while they were alive. But they all had different ideas or priorities in terms of their legacies.

[@martenhoyle]

Actually, the reason why he didn't like the Sith Home World is because there was no Walmart there...He may have been evil, but everybody likes a good bargain.

[@BespinGuard1]

Imagining pre mustafar vader traveling to korriban with sidious for whatever reason is something I know and am okay with being robbed of

[@Dominik047]

Palatine actually said "had to make a few bands by my lonely"

[@ericbrown8479]

You’re missing the point that when Palpatine went to Korribam in Empire’s End is before the retcon in the PT making him a Sith. At that time the last canon Sith was Vader. We all assumed Palp was just some general dark sider and the Sith ghosts asked him to take the title of Dark Lord of the Sith Vader left open.

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

This sounds so weird

[@ericbrown8479]

@@АлексейМомот-щ7о I get that but if you weren’t a fan in the 90s you don’t realize we knew nothing about the sith between Exar Kun and Vader. Palpatine was never referred to as a Sith before the PT and the assumption was only Vader was a Sith and we had no idea how he got the title of Dark Lord and even taking the false name Darth Vader was assumed to be unique to Anakin.

[@ericbrown8479]

Adding to this when Luke turned to the dark side in Dark Empire Palp never mentioned the Sith or gave him a Darth name. We thought Palp was just some dark side user.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@ericbrown8479 Well technically most Sith never got the title of Darth, that was reserved for the best of the best. In SWTOR there are around 12 Darths. Many others were lords but still not the majority. Most were just apprentices and would never live to become even a lord.

[@ericbrown8479]

@@A_Black_Sheep94 I get that. I'm just speaking in context of what we knew about the Sith prior to the PT. The only Darth Sith at the time was Vader.

[@mitchhaelann9215]

It was largely because, like most Baneite Sith (Those who follow the Rule of Two), he was a failure and fraud by the standards of the ancient Sith. He didn't understand the Sith Code and for all his power and politicking, he was little more than a tantruming child who stole the name Sith and never earned the respect he demanded. Fun Fact: The earliest Sith? Didn't recognize a difference between Light and Dark sides of the Force. And the original Sith Code was a mantra of Will To Power and self-control. Every sith since Bane was a failure by the standards of the Ancients.

[@resofactor]

Dromund Kaas was also likely just as bad for the Empire to attempt to establish shop there. Many locations on Dromund Kaas were hostile towards any beings going to Sith archeological sites.

[@majesticmsfc]

Mykyr would be an awesome one to do, especially connected with Legends like it is.

[@jonnovember2136]

Palpatine hated the #Sith homeworld of Korriban because he feard they might go in persue of #TDBank card to level up new abiltities...

[@joshallen4848]

How many Sith Lords have retired and then later died satisfied after achieving all their goals? ... Yeah, that's probably why they mocked him. lol

[@hardestadt6217]

The face on them mocking spirits when they see the Death Star in orbit.

[@Furonanator139]

Something I'm curious about is if Thrawn had any sith relics or artifacts. He seems the type to collect them even if he sticks to ones with little to no energy attached to them

[@thomasbacon8564]

A fascinating point. I also wonder if he was angered at their apparent rejection of him.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

The ancient Sith knew the rule of two was idiocracy.

[@OGJedi2021]

Who made the Batista/Bane fan art. Thought we wouldn't notice. But we did lol

[@heltongomez8865]

Palpatine was not like the other Sith. He wanted power for himself and that is why he failed. The Sith needed to be revived through a new Sith order. The rule of two is dumb and is for cowards honestly. Having only 2 Sith limits them too much because if a Jedi is strong enough to kill those 2 Sith then the Sith are done for. While having an entire Sith order allows them to never run out of people and still be a threat to the galaxy. I firmly believe that Dooku would be a better Sith emperor than Sidious. He would focus on the real stuff that the Sith need and he would establish a new sith order like it's supposed to

[@frankiewebb8393]

I thought the Rakata left behind a dark side artifact or technology deep in the planet when they were defeated by the sith species it’s why the sith turned to the dark side.

[@anastasiab9506]

sith were naturally tuned in with the dark side, before the Rakata showed up. But, an ancient Rakatan artifact on Korriban (one that Revan didn't find), would be awesome

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Sith were always dark side. I don't remember the lore ever definitively saying who it was that finally defeated the Rakata? Their biggest downfall was loosing their connection to the force, followed by one of their slave species unleashing a plague designed specifically to target them. Beyond that I remember the lore being vague.

[@mitchhaelann9215]

The heart of the planet was literally a piece of space-cthullu, and the Sith Species (the original Sith) evolved from its leakage. The Rakata came much later, tried to conquer the ancient Sith and make them janissaries. soldier-slaves. The sith instigated a rebellion that toppled their empire, stole the secrets of FTL travel from them, and reverse-engineered the secrets of the holocron from them. That's right. the SITH mastered the holocron first, the Jedi stole that technology for themselves later.

[@carlosrodriguez414]

This video raises a serious discrepancy. If Sidious was nearly killed by sith spirits on Korriban then how do explain Yodas speech with Bane? Yoda explicitly said he was an illusion and walked right through him unharmed. Can someone please answer. I am most interested in this topic.

[@decrulez]

Headcannon but Yoda’s an old man who’s been around the block and he’s not buying what Bane’s selling where as palpatine believed they could still hurt him so they could.

[@malachiphoniex8501]

I always took it as a banishment spell sort of deal. While originally Filoni said Bane's ghost was an illusion conjured by the Force Priestesses as a test because Sith can't live after death, canon has changed that. My headcanon is that by depriving Bane of fear, Bane couldn't hurt Yoda and thus banishing Bane's ghost back to his tomb.

[@ZorcTheDarkOnex]

He's talking about legends, not canon

[@CatcherofPearls]

A super deep dive into the Rodian's planet please!

[@mikeabbaticchio5754]

is there a video on dxun? I haven't found it yet but if not I feel like that moon of onderon has so much history as to warrant its own

[@kylelataxes1595]

I think his attitude toward Korriban was similar in some ways to Kreia’s.

[@dare_em]

Do a vid on Dantooine. Former place of the Jedi order.

[@virgolocity]

Id like to learn more in depth about Zeltros. Its history, social structure people and standing in the Republic beyond basic stuff if possible.

[@norddorian5791]

My favorite star wars planet

[@DarthKanye]

what happened to the star map to the star forge in the valley of the dark lords (as well as other worlds like manaan and tatooine)

[@Ghoulbladezilla0107]

Where is this background music is from? This is epic.

[@ejrodriguez2656]

Of course, it goes without saying that these Sith Spirits refused to share their secrets and knowledge of the Dark Side with Sidious. From the perspective of the ancient Sith the Rule of Two Sith are significantly weaker than them and there for are unworthy through no fault of their own. If there are any Sith Lords who have made the Banenite era Sith unworthy it would be Gravid, Ruin, and Lord Kahn.

[@xenomang3149]

Kahn and Ruin weren't Banite Sith.

[@originssb8160]

I would like to see more on Malachor it is such a interesting place and I would love to learn more on it

[@darthnihilus511]

Some of us pre-Bane Lords are badass as well

[@tjjordan4207]

I like the idea that there are Sith ghosts similar to the Jedi ghosts. Imagine if there is something more lurking on Korriband, something that started it all.

[@johnathanhassig3946]

I think an in depth look at kashyyk would be great considering there is so much lore surrounding the planet and its wild life and civilization

[@app1953]

What is the background music in the video?

[@shutinshogun]

This video sort of sparked an old thought I used to think about a lot when I thought about the OG movies. If I recall correctly Yavin 4 had dark side temples, which I believe the Rebels ended up using for bases. (Recall the dude standing in the tower thing in with what I can only call a 'speed gun' in the OG movies). But this always made me wonder, did/does any bit of lore go into if these structures are the same one. And if they are and old sith spirits are for lack of a better term 'dicks' why did they not mess with the rebellion when they are operating in said temples. Maybe it was some sort of pseudo endorsement of the Rebels, but only so far as to destroy Palp. I of course could just be trying to connect dots that aren't connected. Also I know that when the OG movies were made there was mention of what the temples were. It just seems like chunk of lore you would retroactively add in to add to the character of the world(Yavin 4 in this case). Great video as always! Also pardon spelling and grammar.

[@draconianemanations2785]

Check out the Jedi Academy trilogy, Luke Skywalker establishes his first Jedi Training Center on Yavin, and the academy itself is housed in the main Temple used by the rebels when they launched their counter-attack on the Death Star. It goes into that very topic, very deeply, and as it turns out there's an ancient Sith Lord haunting them. It's one of the first challenges the new Jedi under Luke Skywalker have to deal with, and the storyline is absolutely epic, as with most other expanded universe stuff it's vastly superior to anything we've seen from Disney.

[@shutinshogun]

@@draconianemanations2785 I always wanted to get around to playing it since it's well regarded. But now I have another reason on top of that!

[@draconianemanations2785]

@@shutinshogun well there IS a game by that name, and I've heard it's pretty good, but there's a set of (very good) novels too ✌😁

[@shutinshogun]

@@draconianemanations2785 Ahh well why not both then lol. My bad

[@TheWarmaker01]

Consider that the rule of 2 relies on the sith being altruistic to the eventual death of the Jedi and control of the galaxy, the ancient sith probably saw that as the most counter to their way of life possible

[@aaron5893]

Could we get a video about the lore of Ziost and the dread masters?

[@connorblasing3969]

By all objective measures the Sith Empire was far more successful than Palpatine's and the Rule of two generally. YES they struggled with internal politics and schisms, but over all it seems clear to me the Sith were more powerful as a result. Furthermore it is a shame we never got a revival of the Sith as a group in the sequal triligy it would have been so cool to see a young generation of Jedi and Sith go back and learn fo the ancient ways and try and revive those ideologies abandoning what was two obvious failures the rule of two and the hubris of the Jedi. Can anyone argue it would have been better story?

[@CassassinCatto]

"Korriban is a hellhole. You'll find no secrets there." - Nineteen (formerly Constanza Ramirez, my Star Wars OC who fell to the dark side there)

[@savagedarksider]

Peace is A lie, there is only passion, through passion, I gain strength, through strength, I gain power, through power, I gain victory, through victory my chains are now broken- the Force shall free me.

[@davidpetkov4521]

He probably hated it because there’s no shopping malls on Korriban, unlike the Death Star

[@zacharywilliams4575]

In legends darth krayt spent hundreds of years learning in side of sith tombs on korriban

[@zXDaishiXz]

He shoulda aimed the death star to it and been like "Oh I'm not worthy am I? Watch this. Shit heads!"

[@RobbieJayrjga44]

Those two Jedi at 2:56, where is this from?

[@JWesker1998]

Palpatine was a Sith in title alone. The Sith are a culture of strength and mysticism. He only saw it as a means to an end.

[@donovanbradford8231]

A fun video and yes if the Sith ghosts were anything like Darth Bane's ghost absolutely you are wasting your time because they would want to do nothing to talk trash right to your face and even put you in a position of danger if not out right death.

[@quieness]

And it makes a lot of sense. The Jedi force ghosts were great wise masters in the force and were still very much Jedi in the sense that they wanted to help and guide those who may be lost. We see that in Quigon and Obi Wan sharing their knowledge. Sith ghosts are also very much what they were in life: greedy, power-hungry beings who fought only for themselves. And so it makes sense that they wouldn't share their knowledge in the force with other sith. After all, the goal of most Sith was to gather more and more, but only for themselves to become more powerful, since power is the way they gain understanding of the universe. So, a sith seeking HELP from DEAD sithlords, it only makes more and more sense why that would be a mockery of a situation. A dark lord not only too weak to TAKE what he wants/needs (since it's "their right", as the ideal strongest being against any encounter), but even weaker to basically beg for sympathy and panhandle for what they pathetically couldn't achieve THROUGH THEIR OWN STRENGTH*. So... yeah, looking for sith ghosts basically seems like a complicated way to find someone who'll tell you: Lol, loser *points and laughs*

[@scottmyers10]

Zenama Sekot and its connection to the Yuuzhan Vong.

[@crmesson22k]

What happened to Tython the jedi home world?

[@NetraAmorosi]

It's Still around and existing as it always has. The Jedi of course have long forgotten the lessons Tython teaches.

[@marceline2841]

I got one could you maybe find out or explain why korriban was called morriban in the clone wars searies 😊

[@captainsmirk5582]

You should do a video exploring Uranus. Somebody had to do that. You're welcome.

[@scarease1]

Plus many of Sith would loathe banes line seeing them as cowardly afraid of battle ,afraid proving themselves ,Fools that relied on Power words rather then power proving oneself against Jedi and other Sith in Combat .

[@silvernexoknight]

Awesome vid

[@daniels7907]

I remember that comic (it had a great cover). But yeah, dead Sith Lords are not generally inclined to be helpful. An inevitable side effect of being so consciously self-centered and opposed to altruism.

[@markcarpenter6020]

They will help. But you have to prove yourself to them or gain their interest in some way. And ancient sith would see any rule of two sith as weak. The ancient sith believed in constantly proving themselves against each other in fierce competition and rule of two sith is designed specifically to limit that very competition to a minimum which goes against their survival of the fittest philosophy.

[@TJDious]

The ancient Sith and the Ro2 Sith shared a goal, but their beliefs were very different. Any individual from either order would have seen a member of the other as an enemy.

[@thelouster5815]

So Ayn Rand?

[@markcarpenter6020]

@@thelouster5815 I was thinking more apocalypse from the X-Men

[@thelouster5815]

@@markcarpenter6020 Yeah, So Ayn Rand.

[@ravenrise320]

Palps was a Sith wannabe. And the REAL ancient Sith knew it. To them, Palpatine was merely playing with things THEY had either invented or had mastered as younglings. So their mockery of Sidious was very, very, justified.

[@dankirby6814]

Good video! Do Manaan and the Selkath!

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

All they really got going for them is Kolto lol

[@eldorado6770]

06:45 Nah👹. They had an invisible whoopee cushion on it.💨