Why paternity leave benefits everyone | The Way We Work, a TED series

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[@edimist1]

Only if every country applied paternity leave like Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland... In these countries it is considered good for your CV if you have taken some months off to take care of a child. It is considered as working experience and not time wasted. Nordic countries are the BEST

[@MetallicReg]

Well it is a bit similar in Germany. I mean here it is "parent leave" (no matter who stays - just combined time). But I don't think that it has any implications for your CV here (positive or negative).

[@MrAragon131]

So if you choose not to have children you are looked down upon as a lesser person?

[@MrAragon131]

@@LegendLength Could you expand on that?

[@MrAragon131]

@@LegendLength Huh never thought about it that way

[@Fnidner]

@@LegendLength Serbians are as white as Scandinavians though. They just have less religious monoculture

[@joemonroe2249]

this was a cute video he seems like such a good father and person

[@konstant_ly]

His smile right at the end is so wholesome. I'd want this guy to be my dad lmao

[@chuku531]

The state of California offers 8 weeks for paternity leave for men to allow for bonding. You don’t have to take it all at once, but you have 1 year from your child’s DOB to utilize all 8 weeks.

[@Phornax7]

That's smart. Often right after birth relatives will come help out for a couple weeks. It would be nice to take those 8 weeks after grandma or whoever leaves to maximize care for baby and mom.

[@MetallicReg]

In Germany you can even schedule a part of your leave when the child is much older. Up to 2 years (from max 3) leave can be saved up for an up to 8 year old child. But as far as I heard for American standards California seems to be one of the better ones.

[@erdbarbambusbjorn675]

8 weeks for bonding?!! That's ridiculous

[@erdbarbambusbjorn675]

@@Dimitris_Half Certainly. However i find it cynical to go like oh, we're so progressive here in Cally we even offer parental leave when the parental leave is not much more than a long weekend

[@BradThePitts]

The state of California also lets you take leave, come back to the office, and quit 2 weeks later!

[@8lec_R]

Yessss! This is so important. I rescued half a dozen of pigeons last month, i was so stressed because they need constant care and I had to go to work. I tried my best when I was home and my mom and brother were able to help out when they were home... But it unfortunately wasn't enough. I can't imagine how people who have just had a baby can go to work... There is so much to do. I'm glad we're talking about this

[@AVisionInFur]

Yes-both parents! We don’t even have maternity leave in the US; if you are lucky, you may get some pay for short term disability or you can save up and take unpaid time off if your company is large enough and you have enough time worked to qualify. Oh, and don’t even think about getting unemployment while you recover because you typically aren’t released to work by your doctor for at least six weeks after the birth, which means you aren’t able to work, which is an eligibility requirement.

[@kopkaljdsao]

Seounds so rigged. I almost expect they make only peternity leave a thing, to pour salt on the wound/insult.

[@SeraphX2]

i call bullshit. i know someone who was working 1 or 2 weeks after she gave birth. don't need to lie to push your agenda.

[@DemetriPanici]

*"The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts: therefore, guard accordingly, and take care that you entertain no notions unsuitable to virtue and reasonable nature." - Marcus Aurelius*

[@prashanthwagle]

Well said, I had just few days, but it's very important to deepen the bond with child and family. I wish all industries in the world consider this for their future generations. ❤️👍

[@antisuffering3035]

Nope, the taxpayers should not have to pay for something that is not a necessity. Food stamps for example are a necessity, having a child is not. Seeing your child is not if they are still being taken care of.

[@ozzyg82]

In the UK you usually get just two weeks. That’s crap. I work for the NHS, one of the biggest employers in this country, and I get only two weeks paternity leave, not even unpaid leave is an option for me.

[@juz3871]

We get 2 weeks paternity leave in the UK...however, those 2 weeks are paid at a pittance. I was set to lose well over £1000 over those 2 weeks in wages, the last thing I could afford with a new baby to provide for! As a result it’s rarely taken by fathers, majority of my friends in the same position.

[@bethy10000-s]

I find this information very interesting and useful indeed. Thank you Ted.

[@Phornax7]

With my first kid I got 2 days off when my kid was born. The night of the birth and the next day. I would have loved a couple weeks off to help my wife more.

[@ninreck5121]

this sucks so much! what kind of society is this that doesn't let a parent be there for their partner who literally gave birth days ago and their few-days-old child?? In my opinion at least two weeks off shouldn't just be accepted but should be actively encouraged by everyone

[@Phornax7]

@@ninreck5121 I was working nights at the time too so I was always home during the day but could only help so much because I still needed some sleep. It was a rough time.

[@jessetorres8738]

I firmly believe that we need to implement a sick leave (as well as maternity leave) program for all workers in this country. I personally feel that every time worker in this country regardless of their job should be guaranteed at least 2 weeks of sick leave and 2 weeks vacation per year. In addition to guaranteed sick leave, we also need to allow both mothers and fathers who just had a baby to be guaranteed time off with pay as well, so that way businesses can ensure that their employees at all levels can come into work feeling their best and contributing their best physically and mentally everyday. Finally, I firmly believe that "Working Poor" should not be a thing! If you work full time every week of the year, you shouldn't be living at or below the poverty line in this country! Hence why I feel there should be a Universal basic Income for every American citizen above the age of 16 based on what the poverty level is so that way no one who works full time should have to financially struggle to get by.

[@darlalove8863]

It’s nice in theory but my little company would collapse paying people not to work and getting months behind. It’s easy to say when it doesn’t effect you.

[@abuesam2012]

في السعودية إجازة الأبوة ٣ أيام ، ولكن طيلة المساء غالبا تكون مع أسرتك وأبنائك ، وأيضا في إجازة الأسبوع ( يومان ) تكون معهم

[@TheDionysianFields]

I remain unpersuaded.

[@ninreck5121]

yesssss, love it!

[@MCRuCr]

4:54 PLEASE remember: Correlation DOES NOT PROVE Causality

[@Melesniannon]

Please remember that causality is merely perceived persistent correlation so using platitudes out of context does't refute anything.

[@MCRuCr]

@@Melesniannon causality is not „perceived persistent correlation“. It does not have anything to do with perception. Causality is based on the concept of time, since the cause ALWAYS preceeds the effect. (Quantum physics aside). Maybe thats what you meant with „persistent“

[@Melesniannon]

@@MCRuCr Really? You don't think that the observation of two seperate events has anything to do with perception? Interesting.

[@MCRuCr]

@@Melesniannon I guess we have different definitions of these things in mind.. For me, perception is a part of psychology and thus biology. My statement was that no (biological) observer is needed for causality to exist. It has fundamentally to do with the irreversibility of time

[@Melesniannon]

@@MCRuCr I fully agree with that but what we consider to be causality, is part of our perception, since we cannot perceive reality independently of our biological processes. Pick ye olde billiard balls example, one ball moves, impacts the other, other ball moves, we say "Causality!" But what we *observe*, is one ball moves, and then we see the other ball move. The moving of balls is a correlation of two events, but because in our experience so far this always happens, we conclude that one ball caused the other ball to move when it hit it. Indeed we are so used to it that if it didn't happen, we'd assume shenanigans and the other ball is glued or bolted down. Consequently what we call causality, is merely a specific type of correlation that we've accepted based on positivistic evidence, and resists falsification. A good example that isn't physics, is the correlation between smoking and lung cancer. Measuring correlations in large sets of data gives us confidence in determining causal effects, even if those causal effects cannot be directly observed (as none can be, it is always inferred, some tests are just simpler than others). Like all science it's still possible that we're wrong, but when positivistic evidence is present it needs to be actually falsified, not dismissed with "Remember that correlation is not causation!"

[@itsjohnking]

Right on, Shu!

[@UzumakiHarutoJP]

Shu Matsuo?!

[@MS-hl8fe]

7mos?! Paid of course. Too bad I didn't have kids, seems like a pretty sweet deal for the parent. Not so much for the co-workers.

[@MS-hl8fe]

@@Dimitris_Half of course the first few months are tough but it shouldn't take 7mos to bond with the child. Seven months of free money to stay away from the J.O.B is a pretty sweet deal.

[@MS-hl8fe]

@@Dimitris_Halfbeing a parent means being a role model and mentor and if done right is a lifetime.

[@Jerrytheworm]

Yes this is so important for gender equality!

[@zero1188]

im confused, paternity leave is everywhere except for very few countries. most men dont take it

[@NLPRadioSpanish]

amazing ❤️

[@evertongomes4248]

All right, prepare to get scared with the paternity leave here in Brazil, it's 5 days only, nothing more. It's our work rule constitution. My wife is 39 weeks pregnancy, almost in the end.

[@ninreck5121]

oh god that sucks, who made that rule?? who tf thinks that's a good rule???

[@SeraphX2]

@@ninreck5121 my mom never worked. she took care of each of four kids, when they were born, during the day while my dad worked. she was entirely capable of doing it herself. we all turned out fine. we all have great relationships. not sure what paternity leave needs to be for, except to get out of work.

[@evertongomes4248]

@@ninreck5121 it's an old rule, and I think it won't change, I just would like to have more time with my child.

[@zeusx6479]

@@SeraphX2 So basically women want careers and government want future slaves because if they don’t give maternity leave then women won’t have children which will result in decline of birth rate.

[@shahinahmod]

Paternity leave is an important aspect that should be prioritized for both mothers and fathers. It is crucial for every employer to show respect and support to employees during this significant period. By acknowledging and valuing paternity leave, we create a more inclusive and supportive work environment, allowing parents to actively participate in the care and nurturing of their newborns. This not only fosters a healthy work-life balance but also strengthens the bond between parents and their children. Let us strive to promote and advocate for paternity leave to ensure a brighter and more compassionate future for all families.

[@karlareyes4688]

Here in the states...we can only dream 😑

[@kitcat2449]

Weird. In Finland it's quite normal. My coworker (in IT) just left for a paternity leave.

[@reemagulshaalikhan1235]

Good information 💕💕

[@tianiakukula8097]

That was a great Ted talk

[@hberger900]

Great discussion Shu!

[@aantley73]

USA. My job doesn't offer maternity/paternity leave (and I work for an OBGYN clinic administration). I have to apply for short term disability after my baby is born and it cuts my paycheck to less than half when I use it. It's good for 3 months from what I was told.

[@BradThePitts]

What do you tell the salaried people that don't have kids and have to stay until 10pm to make up the work for the people on leave?

[@aarononeill3]

have kids

[@zeusx6479]

They tell them to suck it up

[@zeusx6479]

They tell them to suc it up

[@AnonymousOnimous]

THANK YOU!!

[@jianmengwan2623]

this man is sooo nice！

[@MajkaSrajka]

My dad left on paternity leave 10 years ago, and didn't came back.

[@MrAragon131]

How do you address the needs of the childfree? When parents take time off someone has to pick up the slack. The childfree are often burdened with coming early/staying late or giving up vacations to cover for people who choose to be parents. Recently a man talked about how he was bullied into giving up some paid time off to a mother with 3 kids because since he didn't have children "He didn't really need it" You say this is about gender equality but when you afford special privileges to parents you are saying their needs and wants are superior to the childfree and should be treated accordingly. Currently the planet is MASSIVELY overpopulated. the last thing we need are more children. Why not celebrate people who choose to focus on intellect and accomplishment rather than submitting to the role of parent?

[@MS-hl8fe]

Had to give a thumbs up fir your first paragraph.

[@MrAragon131]

@@Dimitris_Half So we're punished because we understand how birth control works? how is that fair? what if we want to take 6 months to travel or have the luxury of showing up late and leaving early because we decided to get our graduate degree? We may not have children but we have friends, hobbies, lives that require care and feeding. Paternity leave doesn't benefit the childfree. It burdens us to pick up the slack.

[@MrAragon131]

@@Dimitris_Half Yes I am aware parenting is a joyless chore. That why I have a made the choice to be diligent and strict with my birth control. The similarity between that and a vacation or a masters degree is becoming a parent is a CHOICE. Getting a masters degree is a lot of work as well. But no one would say "well getting an advanced degree is a lot of work and not much fun so you deserve 6 months off" they would say "well you did make the choice to get a masters" Becoming a parent is also a choice.

[@MrAragon131]

@@Dimitris_Half So as long as you choose (and yes becoming a parents is a choice) to do something horrible society must support it? How does that logic work?

[@MrAragon131]

@@Dimitris_Half " it's a tough and joyless chore." I was talking about choosing to doing something horrible like parenting. If I choose to do something that will help me grow as a person higher education, the spiritual growth that comes from traveling etc I don't deserve support?

[@Ash_Wen-li]

How about paternity tests being standard for all births?

[@Ash_Wen-li]

@@Dimitris_Half I think it should be a right for men to know if the child is theirs

[@makai5749]

Great video

[@DMTHOTH]

all good but your camera lighting and background colour are so bad.

[@johnwishart7950]

i think it is only lately that both men and woman have gone to work i am not being sexist surely one person should be at home instead of giving your child to someone that has been taught to look after your child i am english by berth and am childless myself so please don't reply too quickly

[@The.Norwegian]

I'm leaving work for paternity leave in a week. I will be gone for 5 months. My position at work is at the moment irreplacable, because we all have our own areas of expertise, and you can't just simply hire someone with 11 years of experience in our field for a 5 month period. I, however, do not care about that. That is THEIR problem. I am a father now, and caring for my own son is of course more important than making money for someone else. I understand the feeling of shame, but it should not be there.

[@trini2DBone134]

You're going to be a great dad ❤️

[@sansnomnull2799]

Both parents take paid child leave. Great idea. But who pays for them? Those who work and never have any children. Do you think it's fair for those? The society taxes too much on those childless, especially on those childless singles.

[@l.c.8475]

That is actually fair, they're gonna get social security one day when they retire, and the people paying for their social security benefits will be the very children whose parents took leave when they were paying into the system. It's never as simple as saying "I don't take advantage of this so it wouldn't benefit me to pay for it", the system is far too complicated and interconnect for that to be the case. Same goes for universal healthcare, public transportation and infrastructure, education, emergency services and so on and so forth, just because you're not directly benefitting doesn't mean you're not benefitting.

[@Peacefulpreface6323]

Because children, whether they're yours or not, are an investment to our future.

[@diehardernxgt2161]

Well the younger generation is taxed to pay pensions for childless people. Do you think its dair to tge next generation? Its happening in japan. These children will be paying taxes for your pension when you'll retire. Life is not fair, get used to it.

[@diehardernxgt2161]

@@l.c.8475 correct.

[@zeusx6479]

@@Peacefulpreface6323 idgaf why should I work for someone else child

[@RextheRebel]

You know, perhaps the reason men don't take twelve months of paternity leave is because they don't need to and there's not much for them to be able to do past 2 to 4 weeks. They had the choice to take it and took the necessary amount of time. Good for them. They don't need and do not benefit from being off of work that long.

[@ShemielYah]

Last days “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:1-7‬ ‭

[@broadbandtogod]

How does it benefit your boss to leave for 7 months?

[@broadbandtogod]

@@Dimitris_Half You have a very interesting way of reasoning. If a manager is to keep the company alive, it will need workers. No workers, no income, for either the employer or the families that work there. If eg. the majority (which is not the issue here, the video is only in regard to one person) is on leave for what ever reason, there are drastic measures that must be taken: Finding new staff, training new staff, finding extra staff if they get sick or quit, see to the health of the remainding staff due to stress related work while managing the ebbs and flows of work-orders and revenue. This is a question of money, goods and services, not about a philosophical discussion on whether society gains happiness due to new "workers" being born. So again, how does an employer benefit for a staff member leaving for 7 months?

[@Melesniannon]

@@broadbandtogod "80% of companies that offered paid family leave reported a positive impact on morale and 70% notice a boost in productivity". There's more to employment, including the economic concept of production, than working hours. Employers that show they respect the needs and desires of their employees will attract more skilled and more loyal workers. They work better, and they work harder. Consequently the company can do the same amount of work with fewer workers and the paternity leave isn't an issue. Finding new workers also becomes easier as the job offered is more attractive. People are people, not machines that function at steady efficiency during set working hours. Demotivated people are markably less productive than motivated ones. That stress level that requires health intervention due to being treated like a cog in a machine, already exists. Motivated workers will put in the extra effort to make sure the job gets done during peak hours. They'll put in more overtime to get things done. They're more flexible when working hours need to be shifted. People will work for their money because they need to, but they will work for you when they WANT to.

[@joeyfriends9081]

He is not Japanese actually.

[@motivationbaychannel6891]

We'll never achieve anything if we refuse to put in the work. 😉 Let's get to it! It's time for that deep-down, searing, gutsy work that brings change. Too often all I hear are excuses. Let's stop talking and start doing what needs to be done.

[@Leona____as]

Good day and speech ♥♥♥♥♥

[@Abell_lledA]

One is caught up playing the impassioned protagonist in one’s Subjective Narrative of Self🎈

[@igloozoo3771]

Paid Paternity Leave hurts your coworkers because companies are not going to hire a replacement and pay two people for that one position. I am all for unpaid paternity leave where you can use all your vacation and personal times (My companies provide 4 weeks Vacation and 2 weeks personal) or take unpaid time off without the risk of being let go.

[@andydrobeck]

You may be right in cultures where paid paternity isn’t embraced. But where it is embraced companies are experienced at dealing with shortages and other employees understand the importance and team aspect of work. Also, many companies don’t provide as much vacation and personal time as yours and employees may not have the opportunity to take time off for a new baby or have the financial means to take unpaid leave. The only way for America to change its culture is to start providing the leave and normalizing it. Change is hard but necessary.

[@aarononeill3]

If you want a healthy functioning society, then paid paternity leave is the way to go. Family is the core of society, not productivity. We need to reflect those values with our money. Paid paternity leave is a net positive. In some countries paternity leave is implemented through taxation which covers the cost of paternity leave, meaning employers don't have to take the hit, everyone is in on it.

[@igloozoo3771]

@@aarononeill3 Government deciding to do social experiments through redistribution of wealth has caused the absentee father epidemic. Federal mandates like $20 minimum wage and paid paternity leaves also hurt smaller businesses and benefit bigger corporations who can afford it.

[@HeikkiPaanki]

Fathers who take maternity leave also sit down to pee

[@TheWinnipegredhead]

Commenting for the algorithm. Couldn’t agree with him more. Wish all men had this option.

[@aim_s_3.3]

Oooh so cute 🥺

[@joesilodulhao4422]

Breaking gender roles

[@robobrain10000]

Nothing wrong with taking care of your kid and helping out, but why are you expecting to be paid to sit at home and take care of your own kid? It is undue burden on the company to pay this handout. Is the government subsidizing the paid leave? Also, don't cite that BS that the company gets the benefit of having that employee come back more productive. What about the months of productivity loss by your leave? There is a 100% productivity loss while you are gone. Do you expect them to keep your job open for months on end or to hire a temp in the meanwhile? The market efficient thing to do would be to quit your job, take care of your kid and help out for how ever many months, and then find a new job or reapply for the same job with the same company again. If the company wants to pay you to take care of your kid and come back to them, that's fine; the issue is the government mandate to allow 12 months leave - which is fucking paid. Perhaps I am misinformed on the actual economics. I would love to hear how paternity leaves are financed by companies.

[@robobrain10000]

@@Dimitris_Half We all know that. Question is why does the company have to foot that bill? You chose to have the kid, you take care of it. Its not like you are promising the kid's soul to the company in return for paying to take care of your kid. So, why does the company have to pay for you to take care of your own kid?

[@readisgooddewaterkant7890]

@@robobrain10000 its simple. if no kids are born who will take care of the elders?

[@Peacefulpreface6323]

So how do you pay your bills and take care of your child with no money? Do explain 😂😂😂

[@robobrain10000]

@@Peacefulpreface6323 I guess I should answer your question directly instead of being evasive. The answer is, if you can't afford to have kids, you get an abortion, or put them up for adoption, or you just don't have kids.

[@Peacefulpreface6323]

​@@robobrain10000 You seem to be under the delusion that maternity leave is a matter of affordance... in order to receive maternity pay, you must first actually have a job. So that point is now moot. To look after a newborn, at least one parent must be present for at least 6 months. If your employer doesn't give you maternity/paternity pay to look after your newborn, something you can't physically do and work at the same time, then how pray tell do you raise said newborn... without being paid? Or is there some parallel universe you hail from whereby life is conducted through Schrodinger means?

[@iloveyouamberappel]

He took his wife's last name? This seems very odd to me. Then he says he was worried about his boss accepting his government mandated leave? He was worried about his boss questioning his masculinity? There are some weird things about this guy.

[@iloveyouamberappel]

@@Dimitris_Half what are you confused about?

[@MajkaSrajka]

He even wrote book about it ^^

[@bobbiikk7891]

If you don’t show up to work you don’t get paid, and I replace you with someone who actually wants to work. Your poor life choices are not my problem. Too much entitlement these days.

[@GigaNigaFinalBoss]

Fr , I don't get how these people feel so entitled to expect someone else to pay for there baby

[@ally0705]

People that choose to have children should plan for that. It’s not about gender equality it’s about business productivity.

[@stevenporter863]

Seven months? A lot can change multiple times, it would be like going back to a different company. Would he still remember what and how to do his job:)? He talks only about how the family benefits, but the unoccupied position and the workers left to 'pick up the slack' is not addressed here, or the company paying months of salary for someone not working. If he is serious talk about all sides

[@stevenporter863]

@@Dimitris_Half Just saying the world does not stop rotating. One's personal plans shouldn't impact everyone else. To be fair (and that is what the argument for leave boils down to) if parents get paid leave what do childless employees get?

[@stevenporter863]

@@Dimitris_Half Some people choose to not have kids, should they be penalized for their choice just as those with kids benefit? Your evading the real question - not against family leave but everyone agrees benefits should be equally distributed among all employees.

[@MetallicReg]

@@Dimitris_Half I mean you are entitled to have your own opinion about that matter, but you are mostly using wrong statistics. We are not speaking about "extremely few" - we are speaking about a majority in countries with great parent leave laws. Usually it is 60% without children and 40% with children - the tendency is going towards childfree.

[@MetallicReg]

@@Dimitris_Half That assumption only works for old generations. Yes, if you count those that are 45 and older, only 25-30% stay without children. But younger generations drastically shift that trend. Even in the age group of 30-35 are not even half of them parents. And you can mainly count everybody (without children) above 45 as staying childfree. I am talking about your statistics and the relation to side effects for families that decide not to have children. You seem to have mistaken me for sb that is against paid leave. On contrary - I am talking from a German perspective. With full flexible 3 year leave for any of the parents (usable in the first 8 years). This is probably already way beyond of the current discussions in the US.

[@IsaacAwad.04]

Hey

[@MajkaSrajka]

Iceland, Norway and Finland are happier because of... ...huge geothermal Aluminium production, or Refined Oil exports!

[@hlowrylong]

I’m all for paternity benefits. But when you are off work, you must have someone in your place …….. to help deal with the supply chain disruption at the CA port, so that commerce continues. The Biden admin spends so much money as it is, why not have someone in Buttgeig’s place while he is out?

[@fbc9680]

Paternity leave is useful, except when the country needs you and you voluntary took the job.

[@SeraphX2]

Don't need paternity leave to have a good relationship with your kids. My parent's family of 4 kids did just fine with my dad working and my mom at home taking care of the kids.

[@DMMOTIVATION]

DM MOTIVATION❤️

[@MajkaSrajka]

>Lives in Japan >"We" live in Patriachy >Also, I took my wifes name and wrote a book about it IDK man, but I don't live in Patriarchy, nor write books on it.

[@SaltyCuban]

I agree with the paternity leave point. Taking your wife’s last name? Hmm. That’s certainly taking it to the next level. I’d say the chance for that here in the US is close to zero.

[@ninreck5121]

why do you think that is? what's the problem with taking her last name?

[@SaltyCuban]

@@ninreck5121 Not saying that is a problem per se. Culture. Traditions, among the reasons why this is not ever going to be popular anytime soon here. Things however do change. Certainly they’re changing relatively fast in this country. It’s an interesting concept I suppose, but again, not a popular one. Anything interesting you may want to add?

[@MetallicReg]

Having different names or taking the better sounding name - or even just choosing the preferred family name for your kids. Everything absolutely normal in Germany. In fact I know more "two name"-families in my environment than those that still took the man's last name.

[@rangerjesse1659]

Paternity leave is just not fair to the employees who choose to not have kids. Why should people be rewarded for having kids when it was their choice? They should at least pay for that leave somehow or offer the leave to everyone.

[@rangerjesse1659]

@@Dimitris_Half vacation and paid sick leave are for everyone so these are fair. Paternity leave is not fair.

[@alexandraa5424]

It’s not like you’re getting work off to travel and pick flowers.

[@upandenergy]

It's only not fair if you believe that the time at home is spent not working at all when in reality, taking care and properly raising a child requires as much, if not more, than a regular 9-5. Japan currently has a baby shortage crisis because maternity and paternity leave is not accepted on a large scale. Women recognize that without maternity leave, having a baby would mean the end of their career because they can't adequately care for their child and household AND work at the same time.

[@rangerjesse1659]

@@Dimitris_Half No. paterity and maternity leave are only for those employees who CHOOSE to have kids or adopt kids. This leave benefit is not for the employees to CHOOSE to NOT have kids. So no. it is not for everyone and is not fair.

[@AVisionInFur]

It’s not a vacation; it is parental leave. If you think the physical and psychological toll of having children is akin to a vacation, you haven’t met a newborn, anyone trying to work with a newborn at home, or cared for someone on bedrest (which is essentially what an infant is and doesn’t even begin to address doing that while also caring for a mother who may not be able to lift more than 5-10lbs or drive to appointments).

[@SanataniAtHeart]

Yes please!

[@thoughtsndshare4355]

Lost me at the “I took my wife’s last name”

[@thoughtsndshare4355]

@@Dimitris_Half men’s rights lol that’s hilarious 😂

[@thoughtsndshare4355]

@@Dimitris_Half Men’s rights that’s hilarious… you wouldn’t get it… Since the existence of the human species men have always been the provider when his partner got pregnant…. Having a company pay for you so you can take months off is a new concept… so of course most men will reject the concept of taking paternity leave. It’s in our DNA to want to provide. And you wouldn’t get it. If men don’t want to take paternity leave the that’s good it’s in our DNA

[@MadDash84]

Soy AF

[@redrizzla1989]

But why is paternity pay so low? I cant actually afford to take it when my gf gives birth in the next few weeks. Its £150 a week and my rent is £650 a month. Soo, why is paternity pay so low? Anyone know?

[@zachfunk167]

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[@yaldon84]

I was so surprised about this video... paternity is a choice not an obligation ...I am so disappointed because material like this increase intolerance and prejudge against people like me who has decided not to bring children ... being father o mother doesn’t make to people better ...

[@chiragchittoraIN]

I’m watching the video as well as commenting so i became famous 😂 as people did before me, I don’t care I watched the video, what i care is commenting here… (its a joke lol, i love the videos)

[@touchinfo5830]

I must paternity leave😅🤗💨✌

[@paulharsh78]

This video sponsored by the secretary of transportation.

[@dorouusak]

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[@LinhNguyen-sk8zx]

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[@sherzod4255]

I'm furst okay do you understand me 🤨

[@GaasubaMeskhenet]

land lords are a public health hazard. let people have time for themselves and their families

[@jonsouth1545]

While massively off-topic the methodology used to determine the happiness of a country is fundamentally flawed when we look at Iceland it has over double the overall European average suicide rate, and amongst young working-age males it's much higher with them being 16x more likely to commit suicide than their partners this is over 5x the European average. The way that the data is collected is very poor and leads to massive misinterpretations and erroneous beliefs such as Scandinavia being happier yet they have a much higher statistical suicide and alcoholism rate.

[@areluna8392]

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[@kitcat2449]

1:23 this is such weird thought. .. is it unmasculine to bond with and care for your kid lmao.

[@gen2666]

lol

[@yunnuscd]

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[@derekraydon5821]

Lost me at “took my wife’s last name.”

[@catarinaramalho9957]

You were already lost.

[@louievalenzuela6076]

BETA!

[@dogpoop7132]

It would be great. But people would take advantage of this. 😪. Great idea tho.

[@sadiasultana474]

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[@yunnuscd]

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